The Chilling Story Of Shanna Golyar
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- The Chilling Story Of Shanna Golyar
Imagine waking up to an inbox full of life threatening messages each day. Unfortunately for Dave Kroupa, by the winter of 2012 this had become his reality. Within weeks of hopping onto an online dating site, he’d become the target of one of the most deranged stalkers to ever walk the planet. And these messages? They were just warm up exercises for the real hell that what was to come. You see, Dave’s stalker was not just obsessed with him, she’d already killed for him - and had plans to kill again.
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What's terrifying is that she set fire to her own house with the children there, and killed their pets as well. She ruined the lives of many because of her dangerous jealousy and insanity. RIP Cari.
And wrote " Liz is a big fat W H O R E " all across her garage!
IDK why that struck me as very interesting self-image 🤪
Never under estimate a crazy person.
Omg... Rip to their pets 😭
Sick b1tch did that to those poor animals 😢
Totally
Geez, she put more hours into stalking than most people put into their real careers
Or relationships. With only 24 hours in a day how the hell did she manage it all? I would need at least 36 hour days
Yup dedicated psycho!! A bit like Miss Turd 💩!
she's crazy in the head! to kill a woman just to cause misery to a guy she just knew that's just plain evil.
Lol ikr, all that time wasted, but then again she was crazy and delusional
Crazy never rests! Scary 😧
Imagine realising the person whom you’d shared trauma with and consoled you had murdered someone and was the stalker the whole time?Jeez this would be such a scary movie!
Carrie’s son pleading for her to come back for graduation. When in reality she’d been dead for years most likely on her way Back to her son…
That’s what broke me right there.
💔💔
Definitely agree.
I know. Poor Max.😥 Kids should never have to deal with this shit. Adult life will bring enough crap. I hope this poor kid is doing "okay", given the circumstances.🌈🇨🇦☮️
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Same here. I feel so bad for him.
The cops botched this investigation from the start. With all the texts and email appearing to be coming from Cari who has been reported missing, her finances untouched, why didn't they trace the communications back then?
Seems MORE OFTEN then not….. this is unfortunately the case 😔
Because cops are inherently lazy and do not care about people's safety. They will do nothing unless they are forced to.
Unfortunately police are lazy and stupid. They always assume the explanation that gives them the least work.
Because of misogyny and dismissing her as "another crazy woman". Happen too often.
Cops allways care less sence the victim is not a one that known a judge or senator or guvernor or detective.thats sadly how the justice system works in the western and other countries also after ny opinion
My god, even the best Hollywood writers couldn’t think of a crazier horror story. This is terrifying
This is the third channel That I checked out trying to understand this story because it was so confusing... This channel put it all together with names pictures and dates. They should definitely make a movie out of this.
All that is missing is a dead rabbit…
Throw the bunny in this story and then we have ourselves a pretty well known movie script, with WAY too many similarities to this insane woman’s actions…..
@@ekbanksthere’s a documentary on Netflix 😂
@@The_Real_Mier Nahhhh. This took place over YEARS! Sick POS right there.
i recently read a book about this case and i told my mom “if this had been a work of fiction i would’ve thought it was crappy and unrealistic” 😅 literally just so horrific.
"If this is really you, please come back. I want you to be at my graduation."
There were so many terrible parts to this story but this text absolutely broke my heart into a million pieces. He's the person who was hurt most by this evil and selfish woman's actions.
🕊️ May Cari rest in peace, and may her loved ones find it someday.🕊️
I was just going to say the same thing.. my heart hurt for her son..😞😞
that part got me too. As a mom to older teen boys..I found it totally heartbreaking. At least he knows she didn't choose to leave him. Small comfort... it's all senseless and tragic.
So damn sad. What a POS that Liz woman was.... she shouldnt be allowed out of prison. Period.
Absolutely R.I.P.
No, no he wasn't!! Her mother and son kinda ring out in my mind for most hurt. Idk why, but they do
This is by far the most hardcore case of stalking I have ever heard of! I can't believe how bad the cops fucked this one up! You've got an entire family and employers saying she is missing, as well as no withdrawals from her bank account, and nobody had heard her voice in years?! What the hell?!
Are you suggesting you would have been much better at handling the investigation? I'm not sure what happened, but it's not wise to assume you know more than you do.
A fucking dog could’ve handled that better Lmfao. Mother goes missing with a child and mother aswell as Job saying it’s not like her but the police are ok with messages online from someone wit previous mental health issues? YEAH I could handle it better. And you’re a fool for thinking otherwise
Yeah it doesn’t take a genius to spot the motive she had right away. The police could have done that IP address work way sooner. Heck, I bet your average citizen could figure that out. I can see the IP address of everyone who makes a purchase from my website. How hard could it have been to set something up so they could get impostor Cari’s IP address straight away?
@@VioletJoy yes
@@VioletJoy Unless this story is completely exaggerated, the police detectives were totally incompetent. Yes, Jessica Fletcher, Monk and Colombo and even you could have done a better job.
So unfortunate that this woman’s history of bipolar disorder somehow made the police conclude that she had experienced a manic episode with zero evidence of current symptoms or behaviors. Had she not had that history, perhaps they would have interpreted the erratic text messages for what they were…”sent from another location”😳
Eh, doesnt matter if they acted 100% perfect anyways, people would always find something to pick out and whine about.
Not just unfortunate, it's dereliction of their job.
They need training that they obviously don't get.
@@dookiefingers8436 And no matter how much they fuck up, there will be someone defending them even when there's no defense lmao.
That poor lady was made out to be crazy and the entire time was dead. There’s some monsters out there
Cant follow.
@@jpizel1070 @JPizel sorry think you addressing wrong person ???
Huh
So true! Poor Cari's diagnosis of bipolar was used against her to make police think she was just some crazy, malicious stalker...when she had actually been cold-bloodedly murdered by a REAL crazy woman! So Cari's reputation was smeared for over a year, whilst all the while nobody but her family was even really looking for her or taking her disappearance seriously!
May Cari's memory be a blessing.
It's so upsetting that once they hear she was diagnosed as bipolar they're like..."Well, she's prob just off her meds." Having a mental illness shouldn't keep law enforcement or anyone else from trying to locate a missing person.
So ultimately the police dismissed cari’s disappearance because she was bipolar and possibly missed her medication.
This is so sad.
You can't help but feel awful for Cari's son the most. Such a tragic story, and I really hope he is doing well now.
I don't care about Carie or her son. The saddest thing is that the cat was perished in a house fire.
@@azazello1784 One being sad does not negate the other. You're the type of person who hears someone has a heart attack and then goes on to say that isn't that bad because you've had heartburn before 🙄
@@SamanthaJoYo Well, I just in general feel more sorry for animals than humans. Animals are pure while all people are corrupted, especially politicians.
@@azazello1784 I can understand that, but like, fur parents gotta still have empathy when someone expresses concern over humans.. especially when it's undeserving and traumatic ya dig... Otherwise we get a bad rep as crazy cat/dog moms.... Tember, Gizmo, And Papoose all concur with me here, and they're never wrong soooooo (my cats and dog)
@@azazello1784 you're either a troll, idiot or psychopath, or all three… you’re comparing apples to oranges. i like animals more than people, and my heart broke for the pets, but also for the innocent woman murdered! this whole story broke my heart.. she was a daughter, mother, and pets are family… but every innocent loss of life should be respected and mourned.
I am flabbergasted at how committed Liz was to this deception.
Crazy has no limits.
And all done was to get her man. Who was going to be a mental, and emotional wreck from all her crap.
Her motto seemed to be "Go big or go home."
I’m more flabbergasted at how many women he landed. Amy looks sweet. Carrie was beautiful. And Liz…ummm, isn’t very photogenic.
@@TheGelasiaBlythe lol
As a technician, it didn't make sense to me that Cari - a successful computer programmer, would leave such a digital trail of murder threats. That alone, was almost enough for me to believe it wasn't Cari but someone else.
It was obvious it was someone pretending to be her. Law enforcement leaves much to be desired in many instances.
After watching the old videos, I'm so glad this guy became the permanent narrator. The quality of the content got 100x better, just from his story telling ability/cadence.
Yes! The narrator's voice is what has me hooked on this channel. Reminds me of the guy that use to host Unsolved Mysteries.
@@dannyhernandez2203 If you like another crime channel with an even better narrator (he also became permanent after awhile) check out EWU (Explore With Us). They have cases like these as well as interrogation videos with narration. Awesome stuff!
agree
The narrator for They Will Kill You and of course Peter Thomas, Forensic Files are my personal favourites.
@@belladonnahigh9206 the EWU narrator tries way too hard. The writers also spend way too much time pausing the video to add their "expert" insight
this story was so effed up. the fact that this disgusting monster murdered someone out of jealousy then framed and toyed with people's lives and completely ruined them is diabolic
Nothing can prepare you for fat woman bro hahaha
You know you're dealing with a lunatic with absolutely no reservations when they're willing to burn their pets alive and shoot themselves. Unbelievable.
That’s how I feel too. It makes me even more mad police stopped the investigation after it was clearly proven Cari was missing for such a long time and “Cari’s” texts were so out of character.
Holy shit, you really outdid yourself with this one, what an insane story. This could be a movie.
Only complaint is the stock footage and photos. They are so distracting and corny lol. I wish they would just stick to relevant photos of associated people/places and evidence photos.
Definitely needs to be a movie
Jesus christ, so many stock clips of dozens of different people that have nothing to do with the case wtf
This comment is gold!!!
Oh yeah - it would make for a great movie.
A co-worker in the 90s would call me and tell me about her obscene caller. She had a male roommate, who was making the creepy calls. As soon as my co-worker got a call, she would go to him upset and crying. He would console her by hugging her and listening to her, all along knowing that he was causing her distress and was in love with her, but my co-worker had refused his advances. One day, I said to my co-worker that I thought it was really weird that he was always available to console her right after an obscene call. She finally put two and two together and moved out without him knowing.
I'm glad she's OK!!
Humans are terrifying.
You get betrayed even by your own family.
I find it hard to trust anyone anymore, and it's tiring to live like this.
That's why pets are my only true source of love and joy.
She killed her own pets.
These poor animals had no chance of saving themselves from avile monster 🤬💔
Rip Cari. This is one of the diabolical cases I've ever heard of. The amount of time and effort she put into destroying anyone in her way.
Diabolical is the perfect description for what she did.
It was her full time 'job'
Shows the world what women can be capable of. It’s not only men who can destroy lives
@@torachan23 male or female,it's what evil people are capable of doing. Nothing new to show the world.
Goof video woukd make a great movie
40-50 hours per week stalking? My God. This woman is beyond any help! I work in my job 40 hours per week and get exhausted, and my job is very diversified, imagine somebody doing 50 hours thinking how she can destroy someone's life.
Every case of stalking should be investigated and prosecuted. It's a shame they only had an investigator for +90 cases.
This crazy witch not only killed a woman but her own pets! 2 dogs, a cat and a snake. She burned them alive. Those poor innocent creatures suffered a horrifying death. Those poor souls. 💔 💔💔💔
This is one of the scariest stories I had ever heard of. If you want to learn more there's a snapped episode Liz Goylar.
Crazy is right. I can't even think about the damage she caused. Those poor animals, not to mention Cari and her son. 💔
Glad she didn’t burn her kids to d,eath too !
Saint Frances who is the Patron Saint of dogs and Cats, WILL ASK our LORD for punishment to this person that killed the pets.
Who cares that woman life is more important y’all be weird with y’all animals 🙄
To Cari’s son, I’m sure you’re mother watches over you and is very proud of you. You are surrounded by the Angels. Meant for greatness and beautiful.
No matter how many times I hear this case, it never ceases to completely astound me how far some people will go. How obsessed they can become. It is terrifying. My heart breaks for Carrie's family
It astounds me that the cops couldn't crack this case.
I've been a lawyer since 1999 and even worked on death penalty trials and appeals. I don't know that any of these cases went to this level. This is perhaps the pinnacle of madness. Just wow!
I find it hard to believe that Shanna aka “Liz” didn’t have a history of stalking. Wouldn’t be surprised to hear that she made frequent trips to Lake Mead. Ex-wife Amy was VERY lucky. Shanna Liz Golyar is utterly certifiable.
Plus she had kids, what about their dads? And their new relationships? Why DAVE. No offense to him but he doesnt seem to be this amazing dude who’s worth all that trouble 😳
How ridiculous that the police didn’t pick up that Cari was clearly not sending these messages
Because they don’t ever seem to take stalking seriously at all
It took thousands of hours to trace it. You need evidence. Cops are overworked and overwhelmed.
No they do not. Your dead right there.
Right, like ask her mom if it sounded like her.
@@katamine11 Well it wasn't just a stalking case, it was also a missing person case. It shouldn't have been difficult to put 2+2 together. I just wonder who was paying Cari's cell bill all those years to keep service active.
ok but i bursted into tears when they said her son texted and said "please come back i want you to be at my graduation" god bless everyone this affected. my heart.
I've heard this story before but this is so detailed, it really heightens the terror. I have no words to describe this being, Liz. All I'll say is, it's high time that police took stalking more seriously. This family has been through hell. There's no sentence that would be fitting, imo.
Absolutely! The one police officer on that team dealing with over 90 cases?! Thats disgusting.
It really is. I feel sorry for that detective. No matter how well he/she does their job, no matter how much they care about the victims, there’s no way they can do a thorough job when they’re only ONE person to 90 something cases. And because they don’t prioritize stalking as a more serious case to where they have more than one employee working on these cases, this very well could’ve ended w more ppl hurt/killed. Specifically Dave’s ex Amie and their children. Cuz it sure looked like that’s where this was heading b4 she was caught.
I feel so bad for Cari, her family, and Dave. It sounded like they had a really good thing going and this absolute crackhead destroyed everything she touched.
My heart is broken for Cari’s son.
I had the same thought... followed by what @Peter TheCatLady said. 💔😥💔
dave messed with her head.... he is partly responsible
@@IwasBlueb4 but from the start he told all these women he didn't want anything serious just to date and mess around...so he didn't really give her false expectations
She isn't a crackhead drug addicts aren't anywhere near this evil woman!
You did such a great job of not giving the ending away! I was truly questioning wtf was happening. Bravo!
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Yeah this case was definitely a mind twister lol
It always breaks my heart when children have their mom/dad taken from them in such a violent way.
What is truly scary about this case is that the police are so inept when it comes to anything tech related.
It should've been as simple as getting warrants for the phones in question. Which should've been VERY easy to obtain due to all the threatening messages.
We don't know what they did.
@@VioletJoy They did nothing for years. That’s what they did
@@cherrymetha3185 The point is, we don't know what was done or not done. Unless you are privy to information that wasn't made public, then we don't know.
She willingly gave them her phone and this was after she was sending fake messages, her and Dave both handed them over. She was going through an anonymous proxy server online. But yes police definitely need to do better when it comes to tech, laws also need to play catch up with tech.
Unfortunately, you can't just confiscate everybody's phone who's involved. I'm fairly certain you need some type of circumstantial evidence to get a judge to sign off on a warrant. If it were a murder case right off the bat, maybe this would've played out a bit different but it didn't. If the police "did nothing", Liz would still be terrorizing the family.
The investigators failed for over 3 years. No one thought to check GPS pings on 'Carys' phone? No one investigated at all or took it seriously. And Dave never once thought to setup cameras outside his house after dozens of times his car/house was vandalized? Failure all around.
Spoiler*
It was the beginning for me. When Liz rang the doorbell right after Dave and Cari got to his apartment. She had to have been watching it. Who knows how many times or how long she stalked him. Then, when Amy was being blamed instead of Cari, it confirmed that it wasn’t either one of them, but Liz was impersonating them. This psychotic woman, Liz, orchestrated this whole scenario and planned on being the only woman in Dave’s life since they met. I would go as far as to say she wanted to get rid of his ex-wife first with this plot, but ran into Cari instead. Truly deranged and blood thirsty. That’s how I would describe Liz. I feel so bad for Dave, Cari, and their friends and family.
As soon as she asked him to move in with her knew she was using her phone
I called Liz from the doorbell ring too.. Soo crazy!! and tragic
It’s mind blowing. What did this woman think? Did she think she could get rid of every single woman that Dave talked to. It’s insane.
agree. Dave is a little slow. even for a mechanic
Oh, yes, suddenly ringing the doorbell, to get something immediately important. I know other women. 😄
It's amazing how little info there is on Shanna Golyar. I thought she had 2 kids, but can only find a mention of her having a child that died under mysterious circumstances. I was trying to find out how she could have spent 30 hours a day being a creep and still raise kids, but I don't think she did. Raise kids I mean, she definitely worked full time at being insane.
Another person I watched that covered this case said she had a boyfriend that was really vulnerable she took advantage of she didn’t have a job and she would take his money. She moved into his home and took over his basement as her place. She rarely was ever w her kids. She’s disgusting all around
On line dating is a dangerous way to meet people. It's a way for people to lie about themselves and find victims to rip off or harm. Watch out.
Ah yes, because people never lie or have nefarious intentions in person 🙄🤣
@@Adelicows In fairness, shes right. A predator or nutjob can appear very charming and very articulate when they are behind a computer and have the time to consider how they come across. In person however, its different. Its easier to pick up a vibe that something is off about them, and you know to not engage with them further. By the time you meet an online date, they might know way too much about you, and vise versa (or what they want you to THINK you know about them) to end things quite so easily. You might begrudgingly give them the benefit of the doubt, since you both already put the time in. Im not saying there arent decent people out there on dating sites, of course there are, but it carries more risk, i think.
So many of these true crime stories these days are a result of people meeting on online dating sites. I tell everyone I know to stay far away from them!
Exactly ! This is why I wouldn’t ever meet men online ! Nope !
I met my partner on Tinder. We're in our 8th year now, living together and going strong.
This was the most messed up, strange, cruel and just mental case I've ever heard.
I'm totally shocked.
You couldn't make up a more bizarre story that is almost beyond belief! They called her an "aberration even in the criminal world" which is certainly true. She should be a clinical study, a textbook for students of criminal law and psychotherapy.
And finally, Hollywood should make a movie about this incredible story.
Omg! Exactly my own thoughts
Not even the greatest minds in horror could come up with such a depraved diabolocal tale of stalking such as this
This is a crazy story. But what I find is really crazy is the amount of times Dave went on dates.. The man needs to calm. down. Too much drama.
I've heard this story so many times but it still never ceases to amaze me.
I agree,I've also heard this from other creators ,and you definitely did the best rendition.
The documentary on TV was the best imo . But I liked the way this narrator told it too .
She needs to join up with others who are still looking for the "real killer" also. Maybe Golyar and Scott Peterson and Chris Watts and Jodi Arias and Casey Anthony and OJ and Diane Downs could form a club where they help each other find the person who is really guilty of the crimes for which they were convicted. It's a shame that all these innocent people were wrongly convicted and can't seem to get justice.
Too bad they can’t all just be like Brian Laundrie, eh??? We could start a club of our own, they could call us the “Michelle Carters”. We could get their contact information and harass them all day, like “today would be a great day to do yourself in” and “don’t be a coward, OJ, get back in that truck and let the carbon monoxide send you where you need to be…” I really think we could make this work!
I'm sure that's an episode of South park
@@RonnieMG 😂
Lol
🤣🤣
Too bad she didn’t put that dedication toward something good.
Sending peaceful thoughts and prayers to Cari’s family and loved ones.
One of the most insane true crime stories I have ever heard.
For me it was obvious Liz had something to do with it when he interupted Dave's date to ask for belongings. She was obviously stalking him already. It's easier to see now after knowing all that happened though, but I suspected her since that moment.
Probably one of the most disturbing cases I've ever heard of. Condolences and healing to families and friends.
I've heard this story a few times now, and it never ceases to amaze me how utterly INSANE this woman is, like....what the actual hell.
All females are somewhere on this spectrum
Hell is other people!!😫
Nuttier than squirrell sh*t
That message Max sent to his mom shook me up. The whole case is so horrific and sad.
Holy moly. The most extreme online dating nightmare I’ve heard of so far, which is saying a lot.
A good woman was lost the world and an apparently fantastic mother stolen from her son because this insane woman felt entitled to someone else. It’s absolutely heartbreaking for everyone, Dave and Cari’s family.
This case never fails to amaze me. It’s so interesting and deep in itself that I continue to listen to any narrative I come across.
Same here
Coo.coo
Cra.cra🤪 aLL the way!
I’ve never seen this before ! I’m just starting and already I’m picking but 0:24 why didn’t he block her email address/es ?
@@FallenAngel53 I think these were the type of people that craved drama.
Same
Admittedly, I’m probably obsessed with true crime, watching hundreds of hours of videos on here of all kinds of twisted cases.
But this is easily one of the creepiest, most convoluted stories I’ve ever stumbled upon.
Condolences to Cari’s family and everyone else affected by this unrelenting monster.
Right? I don't think I've seen a true crime video so gripping and surprising.
I hope they included animal cruelty to that horrible person's charges.
My understanding is that aggravated cruelty to animals was one of the charges initially.
Thanks for this comment letting us know animals are harmed now I know not to watch the video.
I don't doubt they wouldn't. They generally push for everything, so if they get off on one thing, hopefully something else sticks or in some cases, in case parole comes up for a certain crime, they still have to serve another sentence for another.
@@TheVioletBunny this woman is a nut job ! If she can set her house on fire to set someone else up and her kids lost there animals she has no soul ...and kill a woman and blame it on the deceased you are nuts .
@@christianharrison919 The point is that their life MATTERED also!!
The animals were victims as well!! Giving her that charge gives the brutally killed, innocent animals justice. I wish all animal cruelty charges were felonies.
Very hard to believe she sent 10,000 fake emails without making an identifying mistake. Tracing the origin of emails is not an issue, unless the person is seriously tech-savvy, which she didn't seem to be.
Yeah, it's crazy how many. I was watching the Chandler Halderson trial and all the supposed advisors had the big red flag of not using @edu email addresses. But I guess here, they are just private addresses to begin with so it's easier to have a consistent fake identity and stick with it. Might be why she got away with it for a time.
Also super suspicious no one followed up on the $5,000 check from her, like that should have put the case on track to be solved within days to weeks. I understand police and detective work is taxing and things do slip through the cracks, but like seriously. This wasn't followed up on AT ALL?
She obviously was much more intelligent than the police gave her credit for. I think towards the end she started to panic and unravel at the seams.
Exactly , they didn't follow up or do the job properly@@SkyCloudSilence
i love this channel. Its a freezing wintery evening in the UK and I've got my onesie on, hot cocoa, churro's and a night off work, ready for a binge of this channel. hats off to the creator/s. Your work is so appreciated and it's also good to bring more awareness to these cases, as a lot of them i havnt heard of
Sounds like a top notch evening!! Hope you enjoyed it! Your post cracked me up so I had to respond! Happy holidays to you!
Best nights cosy with a hot drink learning what people actually walk this earth
Ladies, when he says “no strings, just casual fun” BELIEVE HIM. Too many of us take that as a challenge. Never ends well.
im sorry wut? that makes no sense whats so ever..
no strings, casual fun = friends with benefits. you silly girl, of course it never ends well.
@@WhatisAPaladin that is absolutely not what friends with benefits is. Friends come with strings regardless of the other benefits.
Made perfect sense to me!
No reason to be so confrontational @Snoozy
Honestly, I agree. When a man says what he wants, that’s not a challenge & your job isn’t to change him. If it changes naturally, you will know.
AND men to take it as truth when women say they want to be "friends with benefits." It goes both ways. Sometimes women don’t have time for a full on relationship and they mean it.
You are an incredible story teller. Excellent job
Right?!
I cannot believe the cops overlooked this for so many years...I definitely was not expecting it to be Liz what crazy story! My condolences go out to evert involved 🙏
They said that Liz "wasn't so bright", but if she was able to do this for around 3 years without being caught, I think that's rather bright to me.
Great coverage of this story! I have seen this before, but you did a fantastic job 👏
As soon as the texts started from Cari, I thought “the on-again off-again girlfriend killed her and is pretending to be her”
Me too
Someone going missing and only communicating through text & messages, refusing to let anyone hear their voice or even answer questions the person would know is the biggest red flag I can think of. Major failure on the police’s part. 🤦🏼♀️🤦🏼♀️
I will tell you guys, a stalker is the most uncomfortable, horrifying ordeal a person can go through. I had one of my own and it was pure insanity. Panic attacks followed days of tormenting calls and texts that just would NOT stop. No matter what I did to diffuse the situation, it was never enough. They called my work repetitively. They called my friends. They changed profile pictures of them with guns, and even a bullet with my name carved in it. I found out that they had watched their ex wreck their car, I now know because they were in pursuit of that ex. That ex was killed in a car accident trying to get away from our shared stalker. In the wreck, the ex in question lost a hand and it was STOLEN from the scene by my stalker. This crazed stalker kept the hand at home and held it while they watched TV at night, cuddling it. They slept with the hand and was only discovered when the smell became too much for the dad who also lived there. They were arrested, did some time. But released early and continued the stalking with another friend of mine and then me. It was a total nightmare that I never would wish on anyone. There is something very terrifying about a stalker that can get to all of your contacts and cause so much chaos for you. It's an invasive, terrifying ordeal that you have to FIGHT to prove and get any kind of protection from. IF you have a stalker like these morons, PLEASE don't give up. I heard all the typical BS of "the police can't do anything, I've done nothing wrong." and "nothing is going to stop me, I won't stop until I've destroyed you." And they were right. There are more laws protecting THEM than us victims. But stay vigilant. Do NOT let them win. Call the police until you're annoying them and demand their attention to the matter before you end up like the ex in the crash I mentioned above. Do NOT give up, and keep fighting!
I wish you all the best and hope you find freedom from the stalker. I had one too but he kept at a distance and I moved away. So it was not as bad as your experience but bad enough. Peace and love.
@@kareencottell4405 Thank you! All is good and been quiet for years now. I wish all the best and love as well!
@ Shari Thank you for telling your terrible ordeal, it really sounds like something I would have probably went postal on that person! I admire your strength & thank you for encouraging others. ❤
Ummm the part about the hand is one of the most disturbing things I’ve heard. Was this ever covered in a documentary or news article etc? Glad it’s blown over but I’m sure there’s lingering ptsd from it all
I had a really bad stalkers from very notorious gangsters out here in California.
What an absolutely bizarre story! Shanna is absolutely a monster. It's also a truly heartbreaking story. The loss of Cari is a loss to the entire world. My heart goes out to all her loved ones, especially her son and her mother.
Rest In Peace, Carri. I’m sorry for how you were dragged but I’m glad you were cleared in the end.
How did no one notice the messages went on whenever this Liz Person wasn’t there?
Y'all reckon she's writing letters to herself in prison? Lol.
You know her crazy ass has tried it at least once. I can see it now, "GUARD! GUARD! GET THE DETECTIVES IN HERE STAT! THE REAL KILLER JUST WROTE ME A LETTER CLAIMING RESPONSIBILITY!!!!! I'M FREE! I TOLD ALL YOU IDIOTS I WAS INNOCENT! I WAS FRAMED DAMNIT!"
Perfect combination of everything, suspense, drama and incredible plot twists🖤
Completely terrorized Carri's poor family. I imagine that they became angry at their innocent daughter throughout the ordeal. What a sad story.
They obviously didnt know her because when you know someone, you would know this is not her. cmon now.
I can’t believe how long it took cops to realize it wasn’t Carry sending those messages.
Ikr
Why? It's not CSI Hollywood, it's real life.😂
You kidding me? I can't believe it took the cops that long to even help Dave and the family of the victims!
I know!! Those cops didn’t do their job right in the first year when Cari was reported missing and they can rot in hell for cancelling the search. If only it was solved earlier, Liz would’ve been in prison earlier.
@@honeybunch5765 really? It took them 3 years…..that’s pathetic
I'll refrain from spoiler alerts but y'all are going to love this one.
Ty!
We appreciate ya! 🤣❤️
Thank you. I’m starting it 😊👍
YES!! OMG.. this one is a whopper 🤣😂✌🏼
I’ve watched this case before and I still clicked fast and watched again 👌🏽
The most intense stalking I've ever heard in all my years living on this earth, lord have mercy 🥺
That was absolutely chilling. It sounded like the most frightening horror story. But it was real. Rest in peace, Cari.
This is one of the most interesting and bizarre stories I’ve ever seen! I can’t believe it went on for years.
This lady could have wrote some great books with her fantasticly twisted imagination.
True that! Steven King couldn’t even come up with something this twisted.
This case is so infuriating! Looking back at caris pictures she was absolutely stunning. Prayers to her family especially her son 😢
This went on so much longer than it ever should have.
The twist in this story is so insane, if it was a movie I would've thought it was too unrealistic and unbelievable. Just a crazy, crazy story of a very evil, conniving individual.
This wasnt just about getting Dave.. she turned this into a full blown hobby. She enjoyed it. And took satisfaction and making it as outlandish and terrifying as possible.
Edit: yup, and she got a little too wild with it, and got caught. Escalating behavior.
This is the kind of stuff no one mentions when it comes to female on male abuse. It happens more often than you think. The fact that she sent out his information to random women while lying is extremely dangerous and slanderous. Women who do this should be punished by the law. It's unacceptable.
Anyone who does it should be punished, regardless of gender. She really took it to a new level tho!
The real number for domestic abuse is close to 50/50, men are being shamed and the system doesn't take it seriously.
To my knowledge we don’t have any legal protections against severe emotional abuse, which we should. The laws for physical violence are inadequate too. The fact that it took the police so long to look into the source of the threats in this case is insane! It obviously wasn’t Cari, and they let it go on for years. You may be right that it wasn’t taken as seriously since the victim was a man. There are many many stories of stalkers who kill yet it’s seems like it’s not a police priority at all.
@@yahnservices1978 Where do you get your statistics? I've never seen those numbers. When it comes to abuse, women are more than twice as likely than men to be severely injured, suffer long-term abuse, or be killed by intimate partners.
@@tmeservey2723 Read my comment again, statistics are flawed because of bias and lies.
Women are very likely to be believed ("believe all women") without evidence and men not believed even with evidence (like in the Depp vs Heard case). Society provides more for them (ressources, sympathy, trust...).
Men abuse is underreported for the reasons I have mentioned (massive societal stigma). So, yes, the real number for domestic abuse is around 50/50, not the number you mentioned.
Unbelievable, I honestly don’t know what to say. How can someone be so obsessed that all this makes sense to them? Hopefully Dave is ok and Amy and their kids. To burn your own house down and kill your childrens pets just to keep a man is crazy. And it didn’t work
I feel the worst for the children both of Liz's and Cari's.
The horror Liz's children had to live through with this psychotic woman and the false hope Cari's son held on to for 5 years. The last message from him was devastating.
I was harrassed by one of my exes wife in a similar way. There are people out there that behave like this and the police can do nothing about it until it's already too late. It's terrifying! Stay safe out there and be careful who you let into your life.
Your ex’s WIFE?
Wtf
@@ninaninapasadena5687 she's stalking herself.😁
Sometimes it’s not even who you let in your life for example someone can move right next to a stalker and not even know it 😯
That's why the 2nd ammendment exists in part.
They only act when it's too late
A few things I'd like to say:
-Thank you for this!
-Excellent story that evoked a lot of feelings - absolute horror, fascination and sorrow to name a few.
-This got me thinking. I'm a retired mental health social worker that worked with Level 1 clients both in child/adolescent and adults. Level 1's were the most intensive cases that involved multiple different agencies - CPS/APS, education, legal, prison, medical etc.
So, from a mental health stand point, I'm trying to figure out if there is a diagnosis or more that would encompass a person like Goylar.
I had 2 Rule 11's - guilty but "insane" - both men; sentenced to the Psychiatric facility at the state prison in Arizona.
One was schizophrenic and decapitated his adoptive father and 10 years later, was still planning on killing his adoptive mother and sister. However, he convinced the state prison psychiatrist that he was well enough to start going out into the community on weekends. I and my case manager stopped that.
The other stalked a news anchor woman and still perseverated on her.
So, you get a certain vibe with these people.
But Goylar.........She was pure evil. Not mentally ill, not mentally handicapped, but EVIL.
The planning, the execution of her plans....
This story made the hairs on my arms and back of my neck stand up.
I honestly think the Devil would be scared of her.
Away
Let's just diagnose her as crazy!
Glad you came to the conclusion that she is plain evil. It’s always so annoying when there’s a brutal murder case and they bring up the person has Borderline Personality Disorder or that they are Bipolar because it’s an insult to all people who have that diagnosis and would never do something like that. It’s as if they use that as an explanation. Maybe one day they will stop just like they should stop allowing last words. It often gives them a chance to harass the victims again even when they do a shoutout to a sports team really emphasizing their complete disregard for human life
@@ScratchthechalkBoard you can’t sit here and tell me a mentally well person would do this. It’s not to say all those with mental health issues would do this, but it’s disingenuous to imply there wasn’t something off mentally with this stalker.
@@PotatoPieYT I can. And I did. Mental illness and evil are separate entities
my mother is like this. not the stalking part but the lying part. i cut contact years ago but she used to just make the most random shit up out of the blue and even when you prove her absolutely and unequivocally wrong she still stuck to her guns... she would also make up and spread HS level rumors and shit about me and my siblings or steal shit from us when she was the only human being on the planet who could have done it and take the lie to the furthest extent possible and then a step further... i desperately wish she was different :/
Dude, do we have the same mom? U described mine to a T man.
@thanos7110 it's a shame man. I spent my younger years hanging around with some of the worst human beings you could think of and somehow she still has them beat. I don't understand it... I'm sorry you have to deal with that shit my advise is to get her out of your life asap because it doesn't get better and they don't change.
I think it's hereditary. My ex husband is like that and my two girls both lie just like him. I just don't understand. I talk to them sweetly and tell them people won't believe them. I get mad. I don't know what to do. I've tried everything. Especially my eldest will just lie for no reason. She's lost all her friends because of it and she just DOES NOT UNDERSTAND WHY. My heart just breaks.
I wonder what would have happened if Dave said "Yes" to moving in with Kari? What would Liz's next move would be?
The scary thing is she stalked him so much, she knew exactly how he would react and knew how to press his buttons.
Right !!
Wow. This woman was beyond evil. She not only killed Kari, was going to go after the mother of Dave's 2 kids but she set her own house on fire killing her 2 helpless dogs and cat, shot herself in the leg and sent stalking messages to herself pretending to be Kari. Pure diabolical.
This is mind-bogglingly crazy! Someone needs to make a movie about this.
There is a movie about this. Already watched it 👌
@@danielaloubser3292 name?
Liz enjoyed it. Beyond evil she thrived off others pain for the pure pleasure of causing confusion and fear. She made others suffer for pure sport. A master of pergatory.
My mother is that same example...I still fear her.
I have a neighbor who's doing the same to me!
Agree
@@beth-rg8bm your not the only one girl. But mine we had no dating ect. He just dislikes kids and hates mine so likes to threaten them even with proof recordings of him threatening my 8year old autistic and adhd child he still go no further action as apparently it wasn't clear....but the recording is very clear. I don't even have to tell ppl what was said they repeat his threat word for word but he's Chinese so he talks pretty fast ...one day he will be threatened by a man and shit himself ..he gets a kick out of trying to intimidate women and children and I can't out up cctv as my front door faces a communal area so I don't understand what I'm expected to do. I feel like strangling him on a daily. Just stay strong and hopefully you get out of the situation. I'm trying to move but my home is private so it isn't as simple and easy as people think. 😘
Peak example of toxic femininity
This is the first time I’ve heard of this case. Thank you.
This woman is a real piece of work. Very calculating, manipulative and heartless. To not offer to give the family Cari’s body back in exchange for something at least just proves she is a cold hearted bit*h! Jealousy is a cruel emotion when you become it’s slave.
I just found your channel today and love it! The best part though is how's you pay your respect before you tell the story, that shows character and it's awesome! Allot like to tell these heart breaking stories but pay no respect to the family, let alone to those who sadly lost their lives, so good for u and ty for your kindness ✌️🕊️
That's probably the most convoluted, twisted disturbing story I've ever heard in my life. So sad that someone would go to those lengths, awful situation
Ive been a full-time musician for my living for the past 35yrs. I cant even begin to speak of how many stalkers ive had over the years - some were male, some were female. some were in love with me, some wanted me dead. With the exception of one, every single person got away with it because the cops didnt see it happening in real time. My Mercedes was keyed, tires slashed, trash dumped on my doorstep, sticks and metal pins broken off inside the locks on my house, and death threats in my tip-jar on stage. Ive never slept with anyones boyfriend/husband/wife/girlfriend, or say or do anything to cause someone to retaliate. Sometimes people just get weirdly focused, and sometimes it turns dangerous. Im 60yrs old this year, and semi-retired now, so i only play casinos in Las Vegas a couple times a month - but im still hyper vigilant walking to my hotel room at night, or out to my car.
@@thesammielee Oh honey, I hope you don’t stop performing live.. in the flesh, or online .. People need to hear you! You know very well how beautiful it is when someone tells you that your music really helped them get thru a tough time, or made them feel happy, or that they wish they had your talent and bravery to get on stage and play. People need music. *People need YOU!* 😇🎶💕
You say hello to someone they hear ‘I love you’ crazy but true.
How about treating people better!? Then you wouldn't have to worry so much.
@@adambane1719 wow.. That was a lot of ignorance in one small minded little comment. You obviously have no idea how "nice" musicians are actually *required* to treat people like you. But, special people, need special attention, so I forgive you. Let's *both* work on treating people better. Deal?
@@annewhite9850 exactly! And part of most people's jobs, is that they have to say hello! It's not just one sex either.. all kinds of people are weird stalkers and murderers lately! A cop told me to never second guess your intuition when your gut is telling you you're in danger. Nine times out of ten, you're right.
(And, If a cop says it...)
I hate that these cases aren't taken very seriously. Less so if the stalker is female. I had a similar issue with a past girlfriend and luckily the detective that took over was female. She understood what men would've laughed off.
This is one of the most bizarre criminal case videos I have ever watched.
I’ve watched this story from different channels & it never gets old Bcus I will never understand how a “mother” can burn her own house down & traumatize her kids for a man that she couldn’t even keep after killing the girl she was so envious of
As someone who lost a home of 20 years in the 2017 Tubbs fire, I cannot fathom such a heinous thing. And the fact that she just let the dogs, cats, and snake burn is even worse. The first thing we did in 2017 was make sure all the pets were safe and accounted for.
I haven’t even got to the end of the video that it so sad …. God have mercy
Dave's got issues. The simple fact of him having his ex from Sioux Falls come and stay the night in the middle of all this is freaking mind boggling
It took 5 seconds to realize it wasn't cari and pretty easy to tell it was Liz. Pretty pathetic that they didn't try and triangulate the phone sooner
Like as soon as Cari was reported missing.
It's easy, because of the way story is told..but police should of done so much more..
How else would police forces get funds? 😏
When she showed up unannounced and forced herself in kinda threw me off
I think they found out she had a mental illness and that played a role in viewing her as generally unstable and that prejudice combined with being understaffed and not tech savvy led them to write the case off. The second detectives who took over did a decent job, all things considered, but it's sad that it took that long.
In addition to offering prayers and thoughts to Cari Farver's family, you might consider naming future episodes after murder victims, not their murderers!
Why should anyone remember Shanna Golyar?
YYEEESSS!!! 👌👍 God please comfort and bless Cari’s family 😭😢
absolutely agreed. the victims deserve to be remembered more than the killer.
Why bother to watch these true crime channels then, if you're not interested in the murderers and their crimes?
What difference does it make who is named in title, the whole episode includes both victim and murderer mentioned numerous times, how will that make any difference as to how the victim is remembered? If you don't want to hear of the murderer why are you watching this?
@@sasskvetch8617
Who said I wasn't interested?
And why are you asking me this rhetorical question anyway?
What if it really was Amy and she was a mastermind and framed Liz 😂
If Liz was smart enough to come up with all these twists and turns then she should have been a writer.
Those weren't smart moves. Everything she did was stupid. She obviously knew nothing about IP addresses, digital footprints. She had Cari's belongings in her home, destroyed her own home, she fell right for the cop jawn they used on her and started faking like she was Dave's kids' mother confessing to the murder...she wasn't smart at all. Reminds me of a Lifetime Movie.
I think she is creative in her manipulation. She started the text with pretending to want to move in so she knows that he will say no. I probably can never think that.