In today's true crime documentary, we're covering the case of Gail Cleavenger and analyzing it from an educational psychological and legal perspective.
Hey everyone! Thank you as always for watching! Apologies that these upcoming videos took a bit longer than usual to produce, but we have some very crazy cases coming up, including never-before-seen footage of a killer's video diary. When I first saw the footage, I couldn't believe it. It'll be one of the most chilling cases we've ever covered. We'll likely be publishing that next video within the next few days.
Kinda of dum bc his mom gave him a great home, pool, food, clothes & love & now he has nil. Telling more than 1 person also. Betcha his mom is still watching over him in heaven & Greg feels zero remorse. He even tried to set his friend up with murder weapons. More like cohorts than friends.
The detective was so smart to ask about simple things like his school and his biology teacher, things that would be straight forward to answer. It’s to establish what he sounds like when he’s telling the truth and when he’s lying
I mean it’s standard interrogation tactics because it locks people into a version of a story and it can expose when they’re lying, if they are in fact lying. The detective doing this means he followed the protocol very well. I actually thought his tone offsetting the other officers was pretty perfect,because he easily became the “bad cop” almost without looking like that. He came off as more of a fatherly type figure who was disappointed
To think that his mother endured pregnancy, childbirth, raising him...only to realise within the last few moments of her life that she raised a murderer...a sociopath or psychopath...
Even though it's not a requirement, psychopath usually implies a degree of intelligence. I think this guy was just low iq to the point of not being able to experience empathy.
I don't think they get used to it. I have seen enough true crime documentaries where detectives will break down and need to step away from the interview, a case that stays on their mind making them emotional, etc. I think they just know that they have to show composure to get the truth and justice.
Saying “Ah f^ck it, it’s whatever.” before admitting to KILLING YOUR MOM is one of the most disturbing, bone-chilling things ever. How a 15 year old can be this evil is beyond me.
My brother is very similar to this stuff, he is not okay mentally. He can lie to anyone, about anything and hurt anyone and anything with no remorse or guilt. He does not care, if we try to do anything that makes him upset he exaggerates and gets us in trouble, example, my dad picked him up out of his room to go to school, he said to the school mental health team that he was put in a headlock. (He was not, i was there the entire time). He has threatened to kill himself, to the point where my mother has had to wrestle a knife off him. He wishes everyone dies, he takes revenge on everything. He hated me as a kid, so he would pee on my clothes, steal my money, punch me kick me, name call etc as an act of revenge. With my parents its spend money recklessly, steal food and resources, hit the animals, hit them, tell them to k*ll themselves and that he hopes that they are murdered, raped etc. He does not care, he has no guilt, and we cant do anything as his psychologist and psychiatrist dont believe us, and believe his lies such as im never hurtful, never hurt anyone, dont often lie, not angry often etc. So i am concerned this is what he might turn to as he is aggressive and spoilt. I am not surprised a 15yr old can do this, as my brother is 12 lol. Okay 11th of sep 2024 update: He was using my underwear for masturbation for a long period of time and i thought it was the washing machine before i saw pubic hair and noticed he was watching me sleep. Another update today: He put cat shit on my toothbrush because he was mad i was telling him what to do (which i did once which was an order from my parents)
@@randomaussie3905 That's rough. my only suggestion is that you secretly record some of his outbursts or things that he might later lie about so you can show people he isn't telling the truth without him knowing. you need to get help for him for your own safety. And keep trying different practicioners until you get one who listens to your parents.
"can I even go to prison since I'm a minor? Is that even a thing?" And the conversation between Dylan and Brian in the back of the cop car at the end of this video... Absolute insanity.
Idk how he thinks his planning was so ultimate but didn't check out what the punishment was and he got caught so fast 😖 I honestly don't think he even cared about the punishment anyway but I don't think he thought it would be too bad cuz if his age 😔
@@NoseyNuNuI’m not sure, he mentioned multiple times he didn’t plan it and knew he’d get caught and it was the last day of freedom in his life. A lot of cognitive dissonance
I also absolutely love the giveaway phrase regarding his narcissism, "I don't have a girlfriend because it's below me". Uh huh, suuure bud. You're actively choosing to stay a cool mysterious sexy lone wolf. Lol fuck off ya dingus
He’s actually excited and relieved to give his confession. He’s proud of his work as you can tell by the numerous times he brags about it. The irony is that he was sloppy, obvious and incredibly reckless. This wasn’t the crime of the century, like most narcissists he thinks he’s much smarter than he is.
It's hilarious to see the Detective check each part of his story and him just freeze up, then use defensive statements like "Up to you if im telling the truth"
He didn't brag about anything! Do you know the whole story he has lived? Murder is never the answer, but the cops are fucked up! He has serious issues 😢
@@alycegoodale3059 You yourself said "murder is not the answer", so you yourself are saying that it doesn't matter what happened in his life as he made a definitive mistake. He's a monster, plain and simple, and if you feel sorry for him, then you need to get some perspective.
@@mikeymoss6281yeah, it's a mess. I started watching this with a thought that he was not the murderer (never watched this type of videos, thought they'd change a suspect midway) but the moment he said about Joe it was obvious he is the murderer
It’s insane how he goes from crying and saying “I hope she’s okay” to saying “she was still moving so I got onto her to finish the job.” It’s also wild he says “I made it look like a botched robbery which I think I did a good job” like the cops didn’t immediately know something was off the second they walked in the front door. It’s so bone chilling to listen to when he drops the charade and expressively describes the process of strangling and disposing of his mother. You can tell by the phrasing and inflections in the story he enjoyed detailing it out loud.
He sounded relieved and like he can finally show them the real him. Plus him thinking that he's brilliant probably made it that much easier for him to tell the details 😔
And calling her a b*** several times. Or how he said he "finished the job" when he noticed she was still moving. All that bullcrap about impulse. He went into her room, tried to kill her, walked away and then "finished the job"
Hes so corny bro like i cant take him seriously.He's tryna act as if he some cold calculated anime character and whenever fidgets around and then tries to act tough, he just look goofy
I honestly can’t decipher what is more horrifying about this. The son committing the murder or the two friends laughing about it all. Scary that these types of kids exist.
You se looking at the end of America!this is wgy college kids are amused by what is going on with Israel! God tells us thid will happen before the end so pray and watch!
After watching almost all of EWU’s videos I have to say this detective is probably one of the best I’ve seen. Let’s the kid dig deeper and deeper, then boom a no bs demeanor spitting facts that destroys everything the kid just said.
My favorite part about this video is when Greg brags about how good of a job he did the video immediately cuts to show how shitty of a job he really did.
Yeah, why would burglars throw cutlery and dishes on the floor... Do they think they're gonna find an expensive set of collectors spoons in there or something?
Honestly the biggest and first red flag for me was when he was swearing around these adult authority figures. He was trying to appear tough and smart, which would be unnecessary in this situation, normally.
I really believe Greg is irredeemable. The callousness of how he talks about the whole situation and the pride he took in taking his own mother's life is sickening.
@@irie_father I think you miss read me, Im saying they just as crazy as him. But the "pip squeek thing" come on, your behind a screen, you cant be tough on the internet behind a screen and a keyboard😁😁😁
This case actually had my jaw dropped. The way he was so nonchalant about explaining how he killed his mom and what he did with the body????! Actually unreal
Same. I listen to/ watch true crime stuff like all day every day but this one got me. We even vacation in daytona every year and my dad has been trying to move there for years. I had never heard this one. But my jaw dropped, I shook my head, I audibly gasped... this one was wild
The fact his mom was scared to sit close to him is heart breaking. I'm just looking at my baby boy, the way he smiles at me, and the way he snuggles up next to me and I just can't imagine what Gail must have felt, looking her baby boy in the eyes as he ends her life, seeing the same eyes she looked at while she snuggled him as a baby, nursed him, changed his diaper, gave him baths. Truly gut-wrenching.
A child's parents have a lot of say in how their kid's mind is shaped though. Gai;'s behavior towards him didn't seem like that of a warm, loving parent. It's horrifying what a lack of love from parents can make people do.
wow - after this I had to look up that hitting your children is apparently still legal in the USA. thank god I live in a more civilized country. I mean he is bad but his mom might have been a bad person as well?
the sexual assault line gave me so much second hand embarrassment because it was so obvious he tried to change the subject & manipulate their emotions/empathy😭. it was such a weak attempt
Imagine being the kid's sponsor, someone I'm guessing was pretty involved in his life, sitting in with him and supporting him during a time when you assume he's going through a lot of heartbreak only for him to confess to murdering his mother right in front of you.
The sponsor was a detective himself with the department. He was brought in to assist in the interview, not to support Greg. When the detective walks out and tells him to talk to the sponsor, it was a tactic to try and get Greg to confess, as he may be more willing to confess to somebody he knows and trusts. The sponsor I can assure you was well aware of why Greg was being interviewed.
@@willmckee1632he was kiddo's sponsor and he was shocked about hearing it. Don't act it's not correct The other sidr of a story is his detective role in a case that helped questitoning Edit: I am just reading that hoth Brian and the other broke their paroles and not sure if Brian is going to prison now
Imagine you are a cop and a woman is missing. You find the son with a swollen eye and bruises. Then you find the house very differently out of order than any other robbed house you saw and the son behaves strangely. That alone is very telling to those cops and I think they pretty much knew it immediately. @@BushcraftEurope
Wow, once he realized they knew it was him they couldn't shut him up. He was so eager to show the cops how clever he was in planning this murder and coverup.
Classic narcissist. Head too far up his own ass to realize how it sounds. You could see a lot of glimpses of that even through his lies, like when he felt the need to go into detail of how his door got knocked down or the very specific items "missing."
Well you remember in the beginning where in this "argument" with his mom, he kept referring to how "capable" he is. He seems pretty sure of himself. Most of the time, people that talk like that are pretty narcissistic.
@@HossEehossnot really. It’s a well known fact that psycho and sociopaths are attracted to positions of power. I’m not saying a majority of police are but there is no doubt in my mind that some have slipped by under the radar
"Only one person keeps a secret, Greg!" Wow, such great and quick thinking by the officer, shutting down his BS, absolute gold. Hats off for that amazing investigator!
Wow the interrogator really said “you killed your mom” and the silence was SO LOUD. I actually gasped. And the feeble “why would you think that” is just so horrifying. Freaking sinister. Unbelievable.
Yeah I'm thinking the same, I have social anxiety, PTSD. And likely high functioning autism based on some testing. I do a lot of arm crossing, feet up on chairs, lack of eye contact, over explaining and hyper fixating etc.
My mom has always told me that you’re guilty by association. You’re guilty just for being around and seeing it happen. It doesn’t matter if you didn’t stab someone, or you didn’t strangle them. But you were still there and saw what happened. So obviously the cops are going to get you in jail time.
@@MW-cw9yi deadass same 100% anxiety and social anxiety, i think i have PTSD behaviors from my childhood. dunno about autism but the more i learn about it the more i begin to think im a very high functioning autist xD. Crossing my arms is so comfortable, perhaps the MOST comfortable, even if i have a sweater with a big pocket, it still more comfy to cross arms, feet up on chair 100%, cross legs or ankle on knee, i CANNOT eye contact unless i force it and commit to it and psychologically gaslight the other person into thinking THEYRE the awkward one by ignoring the awkwardness and forcing THEM to deal with it xD i LOOOVE over explaining because the more details i can shove into ever single moment i can, the more information i feel like im conveying, and the more it can be understood as long as time is taken to dissect and put together everything im spewing out LMAO, but thats the problem, thats IF the time was taken to analyze everything i said and did and whatever. normal people wont really put in all that effort just to better understand all the information i just conveyed, they'll just give up half way through everything im saying and just close it off with an "uh huh, oh yeah, for sure, i know exactly what you mean" xD so in normal cases more is less, because it easier to understand easier things, even if easier things have less intricate details that you can gain more information from, that just makes it harder to see it all when youre bombarded with every small detail, like, unless you take the time to analyse it, which like i said, normal people, in a normal convo arent going to take the time to do that, and will just forget all the nonsense i spewed, kinda like what i just did with this comment right now. i kept adding more and more and more details which makes it harder and harder to grasp my exact point just from a glance and it now takes time and effort to work your way through this whole comment to be able to understand it all more clearly as one cohesive story or whatever, idk. but like if i would have just said "deadass same 100% me too" then thats it, thats all you got, its way easier to understand, and draw conclusions from, but in becoming easier to understand at face value, it get much much MUCH harder to understand what exactly my situation is, i can say "100% same" and then they'll think it the same exact 1 to 1 issue, but if i say "100% same" and then explain every bit of why i came to the conclusion of "100% same" then they understand the more in depth reasoning behind why i felt that im "100% samesies" 😂does this comment alone prove im autistic? uh oh, dont diagnose me, i dont wanna know
“I’m not gonna get a birthday or Christmas…” when I heard that in the intro my jaw hit the floor. That is such a perfect example to show how teenagers brains are not fully developed yet. The kid speaking there clearly has absolutely zero clue about the severity of the situation he’s involved in. An absolute tragedy all around.
I bet there was a lot of rage inside of the Detective and wanting lash out at this Kid. Mad respect for staying mature and professional about the situation
I said the exact same thing. I had to walk away a few times because I was so upset at the kid's reaction to this whole thing. And again when the other kids were like "Oh no, I'm fired." Damn straight you're getting fired. And losing everything else, too.
It’s absolutely disgusting hearing him explain the whole scenario of how he killed his mom, it made me feel worse at him referring to his moms body as “bitch”, it’s absolutely sickening
News footage, police bodycam footage of the crime scene, analyzed interrogations, court footage and sentencing all combined make for the perfect true crime video. I wish more channels would stick to that forumula as well. That's why EWU is #1.
I grew up in the 80's. My father always told me that if I ever came home and found that the house had been broken into, the first thing you never do is go inside. He told me to call the police immediately, his reasoning, you don't know if they're still in there.
The moment of Greg's confession was incredibly horrifying. Straight faced, bluntly stating such a shocking moment of anyone's life in the same tone one would use when complaining about a minor inconvenience on a work day. 15 years old and that kid is the stuff of nightmares.
Beyond that, crowed with pride about. His eventual admittance showed how everything before was sham emotion. At first my heart great tugged a little thinking a bad moment in uncontrollable emotion had this kid wrecked, killing his mom. But that shit was fake fake fake
But the way his mother beated him (you saw those bruises on his face) quite explain his calmness. He must have been brought up this way. I can imagine her anger because of his attitude to school and marks, etc., but to beat up a teen like this is for sure a marker of domestic violence. And yes, sometimes they beat back. She did her best to bring him up like this, and she got fruits. I feel sorry for both of them, but I am not surprised. If somebody beats you up like this it is unlikely that you will grow an deeply empathical and compassionate person. And I guess nobody knew about this abuse? Including his father. They both needed help and they didn't receive it. I feel sorry for both.
The absolute callousness with which Gregory spoke about killing his own mother and disposing of her body, is one of the most evil things I have ever seen. The other two boys were almost as bad.
@@paulettelamontagne6992not defending him but it’s not that simple. If you haven’t been through it you likely wouldn’t understand. I was physically and mentally abused by my parents my entire childhood and was so terrified and brainwashed of them I never told. It took my cross country coach noticing the bruises and calling the cops for CPS to step in.
The lead questioning detective is brilliant, you can tell this man has a very high IQ and incredible amount of ability to process, remember, and store information for later parts of the questioning. He does this quite effectively and remembers everything the kid is saying to him, and often mirrors what he says in an odd but funny manner. His no bullshit attitude and the fact that the other detective does not interrupt him is very well executed. What an honour watching this man do his craft. Thank you EWU for all your hard work, and the amazing content you put out!
Did a shoddy attempt trying to cover it up as a burglary, for example; why would any burglar waste time or bother looking through the kitchen; honestly, gonna get the find of a life time in a cutlery draw?! and then wasting time breaking stuff as well to alert the neighbours?
It's so surreal to think that a woman could carry a developing fetus in her womb, never dreaming that the baby she carries within her, will one day murder her. Then she feeds the newborn baby, bathes him, changes his diaper, rocks him to sleep, never knowing what he will ultimately do to her. Matricide is such an appalling crime.
All 3 of these boys are the product of lazy, inadequate, and inappropriate parenting, and probably inferior genetics, too. There's a reason why they associated with each other. I guarantee their families are disgusting, vile people who are poor role models in every aspect to do with maturity and respect. They show no respect for others, for safety, for the property of others, for appropriate socializing according to any circumstance in which they would find themselves. These boys and their families are ignorant. I highly doubt they would have done any better with their lives even if not involved with this incident.
The fact that he tried to appear like the murder was hard on him by saying he almost killed himself, then saying he tried to cut off her finger to pawn the wedding ring astounds me.
Well honestly the more you hold that rage back, the more you try to hold it in, the more likely you are to snap, a big one, so that's not too far fetched.
but it didn't seem Iike he even WAS in a rage. It seemed mroe Iike a "mmmh... Whatever... " kind of decision, rather than a deep in the heat of the moment, snap!
@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. While I do think he might not have hit her before however I also think he is a psychopath either the case. Even if he snap and attack her. Most people regain their confidence after short amount of time and definitely before 30 min of strangling. Definitely the mom isn't a good person but didn't deserve the death. Anyway really sad news and it should make parents realise after certain age your children will not tolerate your mental and physical abuse and might fight back and kill you.
Who would even say that. How about "I've never hit her" like us normal people who don't hit people would say. What a pathetic spoilt rotten brat he is.
The cut right after he gloats about his work staging the robbery to the investigators immediately being suspicious of the crime scene just shows how delusional these psychopaths are, they truly beleive they are leauges above everyone else in intelligence.
Unfortunately our current culture is adept at creating teenage narcissists. Everything from children's cartoons to terrible parents who are simply buddies with their kids to mainstream music is enabling this behavior.
I don’t think he’s a psychopath, honestly it’s a term that’s very hard to remove from your lexicon but I hope in another decade or two people will stop using it as an insult. He was obviously fully lucid the whole time, just chooses to lie to himself so he can get even more sick kicks out of it. So ironic that he needs to fish for everybody else’s approval and admiration despite thinking he’s so much better than everyone else.
@@high-bi-password You are mistaking psychopath with psychotic. Psychotic people break with reality. Psychopaths are lucid and this boy shows all kinds of signs of psychopathy. He's probably going to score over 30. And while not all narcissists are psychopathic, ALL psychopaths are narcissistic, thus his need for constant approval and admiration.
@@whyme7996thanks for schooling him on that. The field of psychology has been completely hijacked from the left wing university’s and so many things are getting muddled and confused now.
This kid portrayed himself as respectful and well spoken. He's a psychopath at the age of 15. The charm and being active in the community and a wanna be cop as a cover. Imagine if he restrained himself and ended up going to the police academy. Hopefully they would have caught his bs cover of being a good guy. Terrible ending for mom.
honestly you'd be surprised how many people like him become police officers or join the military. I mean think about it, they have some violent urges, cops often have to use violence. so they essentially get to be violent without real repercussions I am not saying that they are all like that though, just that the job will naturally attract individuals like that
@@louisjacob7399How do you even know that part is legit!? The kid is a liar. Smh. All those marks could’ve came from her defending herself and his attempt to stage and cover up a crime scene.
Not weird at all. They must be just as screwed up as their fellow murder friend. These types of guys are most likely to end up on drugs or in jail.@@Starscream8896
This is without a doubt the best detective I've seen in any video you have posted so far. This guy was on his game from the very beginning and just no bullshit at all.
Yes, I agree that sponsor Jones was straightaway suspicious when he didn’t want to come up with Joe’s surname. Gregory regretted calling Jones just as quick😂
This detective is in another case on this channel. Look up "Detectives left sickened by killer mom's confessions" but that case is pretty gruesome, just a tw
If an actor in a movie acted exactly like this killer, people would say it was unrealistic. He was so cold and nonchalant. The other two acting like it was not going to affect them other than some minor inconvenience is astounding
It took him 20 minutes to strangle his mom with his bare hands 😳 He had plenty of time to stop, but he didn’t. He was looking into her face while squeezing the life out of her. I can’t imagine what kind of thoughts were rushing through his mom’s head when he was leaning over her. So scary
@@GamerBoyL1906the Bible says don’t hit your parents I would never think about killing my parents how could that dude do that to his parents especially when they gave him birth he ought to be ashamed of himself
The fact his mum sat him down in the months before to say she was scared of him was a huge red flag. He even used that as a defense, saying he told her he'd never put his hands on her, but the fact she said it at all says a lot. I have teenage children and never once have they made me fearful of them.
My Mum said this to my Brother once that she was scared of him. He has since left our family. I feel extremely lucky that he is gone and never proved my Mum right. She often says she thinks he was on the border or sociopathy. I’ve been very interested in stories like this ever since.
@@mintymushrooms8025 it must be really hard when it's your child but when you see stories like this you realise even children can turn on their parents. I'm glad your mum feels safe now 🙏
@@yorkshirelass8786 I hope she does. She always struggles around the holidays but she has stopped blaming herself for how things turned out. I’ll never understand how something like that would make a ‘mother’ feel but it must be awful. All you can do is love them unconditionally.
I will say I had a narcissistic father who constantly hurt me physically…. And would claim he was scared of me to anyone who would listen. Fortunately it was pretty clear to everyone who the problem was
I can understand someone not telling a teacher or guardian "hey so and so said they killed their mom" because that's such an outlandish thing to even imagine hearing from a fellow teen... but the moment the cops come to your door and say "so and so's mom is missing".. how do you not say "oh my god, he said he killed his mom earlier today! I just didn't believe him". Like why try and make up stories about it? And the fact that they are so nonchalant about it all is creepy as hell.
That, and in between all the covering up and everything, why didn't they all agree on a story together? Once the cops arrested them, they each confessed to their part of it, and then even once he was caught, and could've copped to everything, the killer through all of them under the bus too. These guys were some of the worst criminals I've seen (in terms of organization) Like, he hands the guy all his stuff to fake a robbery, but then the guys like "Yea, he gave it all to me the other day"
I don't know. I was an idiot kid too, not a murderer but I can see myself just not thinking like it was serious the claim of murder, also, teens don't just tell things to parents or teachers. What they did WAS bad, and they should be punished, but I can see myself just not seen it as a big deal as a kid and just seen it as "cool, free shit"
OH SHIT This footage is finally out! I wasn't directly friends with him, but my friends were, Brian and Dylan. Crazy to see how this happened. I found out this happened at work one time, it was so surreal when I heard his name. One day at school, he mentioned his cat was killed, and I was like "I'm sorry, how old was she?" He said she was shot with a bb gun, multiple times, he totally killed that fucking cat and I figured he was just trying to be edgy.
@@にちはHYPERSPACE I mean, it wasn’t anything TOO weird, he just seemed like a regular “weird” kid that I knew, and clearly had a troubled home life, but he had no issue talking to anyone, pretty social dude. Just took a turn for the worst unfortunately..
Is anyone at school angry at those 2 friends or were their reputations not as bad as his? I've seen a lot of ppl from your school in the comment section, they seem chill about the whole thing
@@bhagrtwas it true about him being sexually assaulted or was that all made up to garner sympathy? Same question for Greg and Dylan wanting to kill themselves were any of that true? I know he was mixing the lies with some of the truths but it wasn't really clear to me in the end. It's so confusing that he wanted to kill himself but he's grateful to his mom for keeping him alive, then proceeds to kill his mom for allegedly wanting to kill him when he wanted to die in the first place.
@@ChrisM-qo1jc Not sure about any sexual assault, Dylan actually was my neighbor, and thats how I met him and Brian when I moved into that neighborhood and when I changed school to University HS. Dylan was a smart kid, he had struggled with depression etc. I dont believe Greg was suicidal. He admitted to taking the course of Forensics or whatever to try and help him better understand the workings of investigations. Not personally, but I vaguely remember reading it in one of the written articles after the murder. He definitely thought he was smarter than he was. But I believe he was just troubled, and he shows less remorse because I'm sure she wasn't the greatest to him, but I don't think murder is justifiable at all. But I don't like how these videos portray some things... Of course after murdering their mother, they're less likely to be super remorseful/show emotions because they're still processing it, it's not just narcissism. It's a life changing event, trauma, shock. And Brian and Dylan got stuck with his shitty problem, and I feel for em cuz they were smart dudes, funny guys and were my homies back at UHS, but they should've stayed clear of Greg for sure. Before I enlisted, I actually ran into Brian working at a McDonald's by my house. Chatted it up a little, nothing into the situation, but he seemed to be doing better. Believe this was before he was sentenced the 364 days in jail. But I believe they'll be doing better once they serve. It's truly a shame.
Yeah, but human existence isn't always perfect. Greg's Mom was an abusive bxtch and so were the other parent figures his life. His biological father, literally threw him and knocked him out as a toddler. It's not that its astonishing these toxic families exist, we're just more aware now than ever in the age of social media and technology.
Mentally exhausting. Exactly. “Whatever. Blah, blah, blah.” Truly horrifying that when you lock your door at night your locking your killer in with you. It’s scary how smart he is, and then he has glimpses where you realize he’s fifteen.
@Jase-L bs, and you're another Greg in the making or already are. Yeah, blame it on someone else, always. All those names for generations you concocted up are also to blame others for your own shortcomings. Face it, humanity is cancer, always will be. I lost all faith in it, nothing ever comes good from trusting another human being. And that L at the end suits you.
He knew from the first 30 seconds.Police departments look for specific types of kids for these explorer programs because they can mold them into cops who will follow directions blindly.
@@kellyfinleybrown9313 Based on how police reacts to the public and treats individuals violently, some of it outright murder which they get away from without even being fired, I'd say there is a reason why cops (I call cops Chekas) have a trust problem with the public. I usually say that the biggest mafia is the cops, because they're armed, they can lie as they whish, protected by the justice system, and colleagues who lie for them too.
@@francissobotka8725he knew from the first 30 seconds because he knows the kid and is an experienced detective. But you're being quite conspiratorial about police explorer programs. And I say that as someone who is generally critical of American police culture.
@@PepeCoinManiaHe's a kid, knobhead. And a KID sees everything differently. He only remembers about 10 years of his life and in that time, his mum was hitting him and I guess his dad up and left at some point. Not excusing it, but it's not an adult that did it out of the blue. You don't need a degree in psychology to figure that out.
The way his whole demeanor changed when he decided to show his true self was chilling. And the “oh well whatever” way he described what he did to her… I really hope he’s never released he WILL hurt others
The reason why this was solved so quickly is because the lead detective and his team had zero egos. They just wanted to find this poor woman and let her son blather on, knowing what he was capable of. Kudos.
Zero egos?? Wtf does that have to with anything you must not of met any detective most are great and do a great job and don't have egos these aren't basic cops where some absolutely do. Fuck you people are zombies
It's scary when a 15 year old is that manipulative and has such an overview of the whole situation. Even the way he talks gives me shivers. How proud he is of himself, like how smart he planned the aftermath, in the end...sickening
It was freaky listening to a 15 year old speak with the arrogace and confidence of a 40 year old. I'm so glad he was caught before he grew up and got REALLY good at it.
I grew up in the backwoods of Volusia Co, what use to be anyways. This is par for the course and I’m convinced the high concentration of sulphur in the water plays a part. For context my great aunt and uncle were shot point blank in the chest by their farm manager, he dumped their vehicle in the swamps of Flagler and buried their bodies under hay bales. Now that I think about it all of Central Florida is F’d
He might be intelligent, but his mom was right about him being arrogant, he really thought this whole cover up was going to work, he really thought he could talk his way out of it with 2 other intelligent human beings in front of him who's entire career is based around finding out the holes in your story lol thank God he is so arrogant so they can lock his ass up. The whole lacking actual human emotion is a thing that he should have thought about, maybe if he was really smart he would have taken acting classes, guess he didnt think that through, and just assumed no one would question him even though he lives in the house lol derp.
I think the most disturbing part is that even after he's confessed to murder he still tries to work a spin to present himself as a sympathetic victim, but he lacks any indication of being emotionally distraught and driven to the 'temporary insanity' that he's trying to pretend he had. Like the gravity of what he did never weighs on him; he's just constantly thinking only of himself and how to minimize the damage he's going to face. It's chilling.
Every normal being is thinking only about himself. If somebody tells you he is not - he is either lie or he was having low education to understand how brain function.
I can sometimes sympathize a little with an individual that murders a parent, partner, etc. out of fear from being harmed, abused, or while in the process of being attacked. *HOWEVER* I personally don't believe Greg's allegations regarding his Mother and even if it were true he's not a little dude. He could've used proportional force to get away or at any time could've sought help. In my opinion he got off way too light. The tax payers are going to be footing the bill for keeping him incarcerated which is expensive. In California it costs $106,000 a year per inmate which is on the higher end and different in each state but it's not cheap anywhere. Prison is no where near as horrible as the average person thinks or is lead to believe. I've done close to 4 years altogether and I've never had an issue inside. I'm by no means some type of Billy Bad Azz, I'm 5'8, 195 lbs, white, and have long hair; not exactly what you would consider intimidating. Despite that I've never had a problem getting on the phone never been extorted, been a target, or any of the horrible things you hear about happening in prison. Not saying it doesn't happen, there are definitely evil individuals behind bars that target the weak but for the most part doing time is a cake walk as long as you don't go out looking for trouble, don't have an X in the box (term for PDFile), or get involved in high risk activities like drugs or gangs. Hell, I didn't even join a prison gang until my last stint when I was in my early 30's so for most of my time I didn't even have backup. To be honest I wish I had never joined but most of my friends from the streets as well as guys I rolled with inside were DMI. They had been trying to recruit me for years but I was never interested. I don't even have a good answer as to why I finally said yes besides boredom and curiosity. Sorry for being long winded but the point is prison is not that horrible and a joke of a punishment. The fact Greg and others get to live in relative comfort on tax payer dollars isn't fair.
Gregg literally sounds like he is telling the story of how he got a flat tire and how it ruined his morning as he confesses to killing his mother is incredibly scary. The mild annoyance he has shows he is still a teen at heart yet he is a sociopath.
Holy crap….listening to Greg’s two friends at the end of the video was more shocking to me than Greg’s confession! Not only are they completely unaware that they committed a crime and are probably going to serve time, the fact that someone is DEAD has escaped their mind. Absolutely amazing and sad all at the same time.
I can't imagine how these cops did this interrogation. Imagine being face to face with such a remorseless killer who strangled his mom twice. He could have stopped by nope was like I need to finish this. This kid is such a danger to society
My question, there is Dad. 😮 This is too common a trope now a day. Single mother, no dad around, not really if at all, and kids end up half baked if at all really raised, on their merry way to repeat the cycle of distinction. Anyhow... The real danger in society, what is actually been growing for past two decades, is explosive growth of single parent households. Kids out of those, are a total mess, and half the time, a social menace.
@theflame5919 the menace in America are all the junkies and drunks having children like rabbits. America is inbreeding because people are having children with siblings they never knew existed. America insists on existing in an altered state of mind with drugs and alcohol and every excuse in the book for why they're not responsible for their actions. Like him.
It is insane how delusional he is. He is SOOO PROUD of everything he did and keeps saying he woulda gotten away with it if he X Y or Z, but bro was arrested within 24 hours of the murder??? Damn its sad to see a human being that far gone
he said the staged crime scene was legit, like he did a good job. It was just stuff ripped open and tossed around like the burglar had a tantrum and was okay with walking around with broken glass around. This guy is a clueless narcissist
@@MikeRotch-ur7sx don't care I said what I said that's not Human behavior that's demonic behavior and demons are bad anyway and someone liked my reply because that person agreed so like I just said don't care and I said what I said.
How he just says “kicked the bitches body in the hole” is just so crazy. That’s his own mother he’s talking about. He has no remorse, he literally seems proud. Sure I argue with my mom a lot, but strangling her? Never crossed my mind. AND the way he left bc he thought she was dead, but saw her moving and still continues to kill her instead of rethinking just shows that this wasnt impulse, he wanted to do that. Edit: Y’all I understand not every mom is a good person, and abuse is abuse. Yes, maybe he was abused, and maybe he is psychotic but what I’m saying is that this wasn’t impulse. Maybe in the beginning it was, but turning back to finish the job shows his lack of remorse and empathy. Now, if the mom was abusive there are other ways to get out of the situation than brutally strangling her. If he was abused, of course I feel empathy, but to say that it validates murder? No. I think he was sane while doing this as well, he has no remorse.
Mate, your Mom isn't every Mom. There are Mom's that are downright evil, abused their kids to death and are in prison. No idea if his Mom was good or bad, but given his actions, either she was or he is a born killer.
The no-BS detective is really fantastic. I’ve watched a lot of these with varying degrees of how some of them do their work. He’s great at what he does.
I agree. He was right to the point when he, all of a sudden, asked him if he killed his Mom. There was none of that pretending he's on his side, or the "well, people make mistakes" ploy. Stright and to the point - "You are lying to me"
@@fredveefrqc4072Yeah, but the place is trashed and he left his mom's car there. He also had his Dad coming home later that night, and the neighbor that had the key to check in on them
This must have been so weird and uncomfortable for the other detective. He's been working with this high school kid, seems to know him fairly well.. like I can't imagine what that was like for him listening to these ridiculous answers, knowing he was lying, until finally he admits it all like idk how cops are so good at hiding their emotions lol but that's wild
I’m currently thinking about the same thing! His mind is so blown right now, mine is too! The way he’s just nonchalantly talking about what he did to his poor mother 💔😟😭
@@philmcclenaghan7056 It's quite common for people to take their phone out and start texting, or start doing something similar when they're in an uncomfortable situation
Detective is a true professional for listening to this kid with a straight face. He was already annoying when introduced but becomes unbearable the moment he decides its confession time. I could only image what the mom had to deal with on a daily basis
This kid is SUCH a narcissist. It's all an act - even his attitude when confessing was fake. He is so desperate for their approval and for them to think he is cool, so he started to pretend like he doesn't even care what happens to him, so therefore, he's acting like it's just a totally casual thing and whatever, no big deal even if he goes to prison. He says "I would have gotten away with it if I hadn't made that one mistake" twice is his grandiose thinking. In reality, he is absolutely terrified throughout this interview.
It’s so fascinating to watch how often killers (especially the teen ones) try to take control of the interrogation and make it a stage. They so often behave like they are playing some tv character.
This kid is a dangerous, psychotic monster and deserves life in prison with no possibility of parole, but his parents are 100% responsible for creating this monster. Spoiling him? Neglect? No boundaries? Abuse? Who knows what made him what he is today... but whether it was nature or nurture, genetics or environment, his mother made this kid what he was.
@@ohsweetmysterysuch a fucked, predictable outlook. You see a terrified mother, doing her best with a broken child who tries multiple times to kill her, and your first instinct is to blame HER for it. As though psychopaths can’t possibly learn from outside of their mothers. As though they can’t just be more susceptible to evil acts. She’s already dead. You don’t have to drag her through the dirt.
@@capwb No, they just tried to help him get away with murder, and lied to the police. I'm sure they are very nice boys. Honestly, you're just like those kids, I don't think you fully understand the gravity of the situation to try and cover up a murder for someone, or hindering the police in their investigation.
@@ohsweetmystery No matter what a parent does in life, you can't guarantee that your child will come out normal. I suggest you start consuming more documentaries and books about psychology, killers and psychopaths. You're either emotional due to him not taking responsibility or feeling guilt, so you want someone to blame, so you blame the mother. Or you're projecting your own life situation where you feel wronged by your own mother and side with a.. MURDERER. Either way, you need to re-evaluate your life.
Catching liars and slowly getting them to admit the truth is such an amazing skill. I feel like it should be worth much more than knowing Excel or Powerpoint
I find it heartbreaking to think that a year prior, his mom sat him down and probably rather emotionally told him that she was scared of him. Where must her mind have been at that point to approach him like that? She was crying for help. And then a year later she was proven right.
I can't imagine what was going through the mind of Gregory's sponsors just sitting across the room looking at this kid who he thought he knew, thinking that he was there to help encourage and defend him and slowly watching him and realizing that he was a murderer.
when he remained adamant in wanting the name of the "friend he fought", while he kept on trying to wiggle out of answering was big from the start, the kid is obviously hiding something@@autumnbluehue
"normal human" as in someone who hasn't been traumatized and developed impulsive anger issues from being sexually abused and then physically abused by the only person he trusted. yeah
All I can think is how terrifying it must have been for her, dying at the hands of someone she loved, raised and brought into the world. It’s dying from the inside to the outside. Bless the rest of her family and how do they deal with having loved this guy.🌹
Those friends absolutely helped bury her. He put himself AND his friends at the fire pit that night in the original version of his story, which he later admitted was to explain the location of his phone. Why would he include the friends if they weren't there? And in his story when he switched to saying "we were digging, we dragged her..." No way, they absolutely were there that night.
SPOT ON !! I thought it was so weird he talked in the plural form, because throughout the interrogation, he never did that, except at this occasion. That's because he got carried away and forgot. I was also wondering how he managed to dig a hole big enough for a human. On the photo it looks like pretty soft soil, but still, it's a lot of work for one person. But if there were three of them, it makes sense.
I agree. His fake story of going out with his friends at 1:30am until almost the time school started was totally a cover for them being with him in case their cellphone locations were all checked. Every part of his story he formulated as a way to explain any evidence that could be found. He called them immediately after he killed his mom and they were all up all night covering it up. They all left early from school to finish setting up the scene. I'm totally convinced. They got off light.
Dude when he was bragging about the crime scene and the initial phone call I couldn’t help but laugh at him. I feel bad for the detective for having to be in the same room as a wannabe edge lord
The detective & all the other cops who helped on the case get the last laugh on sentencing day. Now Greg has 25 - 45 years to wait for that award winning 911 call.
if my mom was missing id be extremely worried and crying, but if someone said "you killed your mom," id be sobbing uncontrollably all day because of the implication she was found dead. that kid was absolutely calm being interrogated until he wants to fake cry
I wouldn’t cry as I’m not a very expressive person but yeah if someone told me I killed my mom I would probably stutter “m-m-my mom is d-d-dead?” and lose the ability to breath for a while.
his mom was clearly abusing him. doesn’t justify killing her but he clearly had no way out. kids like this are used to keeping the abuse under wraps that’s why his emotional expression seems misplaced. he’s likely already mourned the loving mother he would’ve had if she wasn’t so abusive in the way that he had described
People do express grief in different ways, and it wouldn't surprise me that much for someone who had legitimately come home to find their mother missing and likely dead to still be calm and not showing emotion when talking to police. Sometimes people bottle it up and don't show it, sometimes people when hit with that kind of trauma turn emotionally numb, and sometimes people take some time before the reality of whats happened actually sinks in and they start having a strong emotional reaction to it. Its part of why I find it a little off the mark when the lack of a "normal" emotional response is interpreted as a red flag.
My sister is a school psychologist at a elementary school here in AZ. She tells me about all the disturbed children she encounters everyday. There are so many that go under the radar and grow up as adults to walk among us. She always gets creeped out or scared. The parents raise them that way. They seem to never care about their childs insane behavior.
I don’t think there’s any clinical study indicating children like this are the product of bad parenting. Instead it seems to be something completely out of parental control from my experiences. For example serial killers generally start off at a young age with animal cruelty. There’s an inner drive to do cruel things regardless if they came from a loving home, a broken home, abusive parents, etc etc. I used to work at a special public school campus, a portion of which was for emotionally disturbed children. I’m here to tell you some of these kids were straight up fucked in the head even as early as first graders and their parents were loving and responsible and absolutely desperate to get their children help. There was a 1st grader with extreme violent tendencies and a 6th grader with extreme sexual tendencies….you literally could not leave her unattended with a boy because she would go after them. Many others has severely short fuses and the slightest thing could set them off into a violent state. I had a coworker that was well respected. His child “grew up” with us and had every chance at a successful life but he was always a little off. He went on to another his OWN CHILD that wasn’t even 2 years old. There’s a lot of child development issues that are the result of bad parenting, but in my experience these extreme narcissistic sociopathic killers are just made that way, no different than how some children have leukemia, or asthma, etc etc.
It's not just teenagers; it's pretty common overall. We in the psych field call it The Dunning-Kruger Effect. It s common for people to think they know more than doctors, lawyers, etc.
@@Hap_Shaughessy True that teenagers are usually over confident in themselves. But it's an intelligence thing. I was outsmarting and fooling adults from the age of 10. Got away with EVERYTHING. Burgled my own school multiple times, got "set up" by a girl for drug dealing and also got away with that and turned it around on her, and SHE got expelled not me. I'm not proud of course. But I never hurt anyone.
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This kid is terrifying. Tossing around adult phrases like he's the smartest person in the room. I'm glad he was interrogated by a no BS detective.
His friends are just as terrifying. I can't imagine helping my friend cover up the murder of their mother and being so nonchalant about it all.
Kinda of dum bc his mom gave him a great home, pool, food, clothes & love & now he has nil. Telling more than 1 person also. Betcha his mom is still watching over him in heaven & Greg feels zero remorse. He even tried to set his friend up with murder weapons. More like cohorts than friends.
@@RoshanAntonyTauroOh how horrible! I can’t imagine how anyone could see that and not be traumatized for life.
He probably has very high IQ but has extremely low social & emotional intelligence. These types of people are extremely dangerous (i.e. Ted Bundy).
Blah blah blah or whatever.
I love how narcissts believe they're much smarter than they actually are.
I hate it
@dorbacal I love whites. If you also do exclusively then don't respond to this comment
bro literally messed up the whole house and tought a thief would do all that confidently💀
@@olly8702 Then making it up all those stories that can easily be proven false. Let's be real, ain't no one gridning on that 😂
He’s 15.. there’s that
So scary that he wanted to be in law enforcement. I can't imagine how badly he would have abused such a position
thought this too. so so typical.
There are plenty of people in law enforcement who shouldn't be. Thankfully there are many more who do their jobs faithfully.
its not typical, vast majority are good cops, but that doesnt generate clicks like outrage negative news does@@olal9904
@@charlesfaure1189
There are more tyrants than the other
@@icegangsta5161 Proof? Oh yeah you have none. The other guy might also be lying, but at least he doesn't insult anyone.
The detective was so smart to ask about simple things like his school and his biology teacher, things that would be straight forward to answer.
It’s to establish what he sounds like when he’s telling the truth and when he’s lying
you have such good observation
If you can tell when someone's telling the truth, it becomes far easier to tell when someone's lying
Your icon fits the comment
@@Gizzardx0i had the same idea lmao
I mean it’s standard interrogation tactics because it locks people into a version of a story and it can expose when they’re lying, if they are in fact lying. The detective doing this means he followed the protocol very well. I actually thought his tone offsetting the other officers was pretty perfect,because he easily became the “bad cop” almost without looking like that. He came off as more of a fatherly type figure who was disappointed
To think that his mother endured pregnancy, childbirth, raising him...only to realise within the last few moments of her life that she raised a murderer...a sociopath or psychopath...
* “a lazy, pudgy, no ambition, no goals having murderer… a psychopath”
Fixed it for you 😂
@@93FilmsandMedia "a lazy, pudgy, no ambition, no goals" hey now let's not fire a blunderbuss in here.
@@Arkantos117I felt personally attacked at that line
Even though it's not a requirement, psychopath usually implies a degree of intelligence.
I think this guy was just low iq to the point of not being able to experience empathy.
As a mother, you'll have all kinds of red flags leading up to this kind of behavior but you're in denial because it's your child.
i really find it fascinating how detectives can stay so calm while someone describes such a crime in front of them
You just get used to it.
Yeah you get used to it after a while
I don't think they get used to it. I have seen enough true crime documentaries where detectives will break down and need to step away from the interview, a case that stays on their mind making them emotional, etc. I think they just know that they have to show composure to get the truth and justice.
They have to keep control to do victim justice asap. Its not about them and so they do their job as priority. Doesnt mean theyre cold
Professionalism. They no doubt despise him, but acting on that is going to mess the case up.
Saying “Ah f^ck it, it’s whatever.” before admitting to KILLING YOUR MOM is one of the most disturbing, bone-chilling things ever. How a 15 year old can be this evil is beyond me.
My brother is very similar to this stuff, he is not okay mentally. He can lie to anyone, about anything and hurt anyone and anything with no remorse or guilt. He does not care, if we try to do anything that makes him upset he exaggerates and gets us in trouble, example, my dad picked him up out of his room to go to school, he said to the school mental health team that he was put in a headlock. (He was not, i was there the entire time). He has threatened to kill himself, to the point where my mother has had to wrestle a knife off him. He wishes everyone dies, he takes revenge on everything. He hated me as a kid, so he would pee on my clothes, steal my money, punch me kick me, name call etc as an act of revenge. With my parents its spend money recklessly, steal food and resources, hit the animals, hit them, tell them to k*ll themselves and that he hopes that they are murdered, raped etc. He does not care, he has no guilt, and we cant do anything as his psychologist and psychiatrist dont believe us, and believe his lies such as im never hurtful, never hurt anyone, dont often lie, not angry often etc. So i am concerned this is what he might turn to as he is aggressive and spoilt. I am not surprised a 15yr old can do this, as my brother is 12 lol.
Okay 11th of sep 2024 update: He was using my underwear for masturbation for a long period of time and i thought it was the washing machine before i saw pubic hair and noticed he was watching me sleep.
Another update today: He put cat shit on my toothbrush because he was mad i was telling him what to do (which i did once which was an order from my parents)
@@randomaussie3905 That's rough. my only suggestion is that you secretly record some of his outbursts or things that he might later lie about so you can show people he isn't telling the truth without him knowing. you need to get help for him for your own safety. And keep trying different practicioners until you get one who listens to your parents.
there's an easy answer.
religion
@@obscurereference6298 you are actually dense as hell
timestamp?
"can I even go to prison since I'm a minor? Is that even a thing?" And the conversation between Dylan and Brian in the back of the cop car at the end of this video... Absolute insanity.
Idk how he thinks his planning was so ultimate but didn't check out what the punishment was and he got caught so fast 😖 I honestly don't think he even cared about the punishment anyway but I don't think he thought it would be too bad cuz if his age 😔
Pretty damn good harmony when they sang
@@NoseyNuNuI’m not sure, he mentioned multiple times he didn’t plan it and knew he’d get caught and it was the last day of freedom in his life. A lot of cognitive dissonance
i think him saying how someones ex girlfriend just randomly decided to grind on him was the most unbelievable part of this interrogation
I know, imaginary shit 😂 Never happened. Only in his wet dreams.
😂😂😂
I also absolutely love the giveaway phrase regarding his narcissism, "I don't have a girlfriend because it's below me". Uh huh, suuure bud. You're actively choosing to stay a cool mysterious sexy lone wolf. Lol fuck off ya dingus
or knowing Joe L for a year and a half and "valuing" the friendship they have but he doesn't even know his last name.
@@r7wake615 I don't think "Joe L" is a real person. I think Greg fabricated all of that
He’s actually excited and relieved to give his confession. He’s proud of his work as you can tell by the numerous times he brags about it. The irony is that he was sloppy, obvious and incredibly reckless. This wasn’t the crime of the century, like most narcissists he thinks he’s much smarter than he is.
It's hilarious to see the Detective check each part of his story and him just freeze up, then use defensive statements like "Up to you if im telling the truth"
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He didn't brag about anything! Do you know the whole story he has lived? Murder is never the answer, but the cops are fucked up! He has serious issues 😢
@@alycegoodale3059if you didn’t hear him brag you need your ears checked
@@alycegoodale3059 You yourself said "murder is not the answer", so you yourself are saying that it doesn't matter what happened in his life as he made a definitive mistake. He's a monster, plain and simple, and if you feel sorry for him, then you need to get some perspective.
This detective is a master interrogator. He trips the kid up so many times by being more ready than he is.
Well it’s a 15 year old kid.
@@PeeBurps-gk7cuyou'd be surprised how other "detectives" do in other videos 🤦🏻♂️
The kid's story was also just completely terrible from the beginning.
@@mikeymoss6281yeah, it's a mess. I started watching this with a thought that he was not the murderer (never watched this type of videos, thought they'd change a suspect midway) but the moment he said about Joe it was obvious he is the murderer
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I wasn't prepared for how casual this kid's confession was.
I wasn't really surprised. I mean the kid was cornered and was suicidal anyway. Honestly in his shoes I would probably have acted the exact same.
Legend has it, Gregory can still be heard in the prison hallways saying his robbery scene looked really legit.
Think he yells "blah blah blah" when Big Bubba is handling business?
Typical
Such a naive 15 year old. Thinking anyone would believe his nonsense
@@mrjonesandme8848ew
It’s whatever
the fact greg was pretty enthusiastic in the part where he finally tells the truth is genuinely shocking
He really wanted the detectives to think he was smart.
@@joe6700see to really be smart you gotta realize it's easier to turn 18 and move away like everyone else with crazy family than be a murderer
@@joe6700no, he was proud of how he handled it quickly and wanted to show off
its a combination of narcisism and finally not having to lie
Spoiler alert. Damn
“He tells one of the most chilling confessions we’ve ever heard.”
*ad starts playing*
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Literally just got to that part and I laughed 😂😂
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A mothers day advert too... chillingly appropriate
Time stamp?
It’s insane how he goes from crying and saying “I hope she’s okay” to saying “she was still moving so I got onto her to finish the job.” It’s also wild he says “I made it look like a botched robbery which I think I did a good job” like the cops didn’t immediately know something was off the second they walked in the front door. It’s so bone chilling to listen to when he drops the charade and expressively describes the process of strangling and disposing of his mother. You can tell by the phrasing and inflections in the story he enjoyed detailing it out loud.
He sounded relieved and like he can finally show them the real him. Plus him thinking that he's brilliant probably made it that much easier for him to tell the details 😔
it’s very uncomfortable to hear
@@NoseyNuNuexactly he’s so pathetic
Yeah he went from "I'm a victim" to "I'm so amazing" real quick 🤮
It’s disturbing to think about how he was crying and saying “i hope she’s ok” and four hours later he admits to murdering his own mum... it’s horrible
And calling her a b*** several times. Or how he said he "finished the job" when he noticed she was still moving. All that bullcrap about impulse. He went into her room, tried to kill her, walked away and then "finished the job"
@@9inchnail fr is so fccked up
The fact that he killed her when he could have called the police and show them that she was beating him if she actually did
@@Diablogaming944and the police would do nothing
@@autumnblaze6267yeah, I don't even know why people would think the police would do anything.
Hes so corny bro like i cant take him seriously.He's tryna act as if he some cold calculated anime character and whenever fidgets around and then tries to act tough, he just look goofy
fr -5000000 aura from this dude 😭
ermmm aktually two hands are better than one for strangling 🤓☝️ bro is trying to start his villain arc 💀
@@emmawood4750 Bro is a C-tier villian lmao
Yet all of you write like you're drooling most of the time. Learn English, broccoli boys.
Right? I don’t get comments saying he is chilling. He’s cringey. It’s so pathetic
I honestly can’t decipher what is more horrifying about this. The son committing the murder or the two friends laughing about it all. Scary that these types of kids exist.
You see this kind of disregard of human beings by kids on the internet, laughing at the sickest shit. It's truly disturbing.
@@l4zrh4wkit’s mind blowing
You se looking at the end of America!this is wgy college kids are amused by what is going on with Israel! God tells us thid will happen before the end so pray and watch!
@@l4zrh4wk So true and scary.
@@thomastolbert6184 How anyone could find amusement in what is happening in Israel is truly sad, sick and disgusting.
After watching almost all of EWU’s videos I have to say this detective is probably one of the best I’ve seen. Let’s the kid dig deeper and deeper, then boom a no bs demeanor spitting facts that destroys everything the kid just said.
My favorite part about this video is when Greg brags about how good of a job he did the video immediately cuts to show how shitty of a job he really did.
Yeah, why would burglars throw cutlery and dishes on the floor... Do they think they're gonna find an expensive set of collectors spoons in there or something?
Same. He really thinks he’s some criminal mastermind.
lmaoo I was about to say this, it's funny how cocky he is
is there a timestamp?
@@snezzzz can’t remember but it happens multiple times in the video
He's telling the story like its everyday routine.... this is genuinely terrifying. This kid has no feelings, no emotions, he's just sickening.
Cause he was hit
@@SergeantArxelCone You acting like that's an excuse or even an explanation??? as a child abuse victim you are full of BS
Thats apathy. A mental illness
Honestly the biggest and first red flag for me was when he was swearing around these adult authority figures. He was trying to appear tough and smart, which would be unnecessary in this situation, normally.
@@fsisrael9224 lol no, that is not apathy, and apathy is not a legitimate mental illness. That is sociopathy.
bro lied about getting grinded on to come off like a player to the cops 💀
Literally I was cringing so hard that shit did NOT happen 😭
Lol😂
Timestamp?
33:29
also right after he killed his mom, priorities
“ARe YoU sAyInG mY fRiEndS rObBeD mY hOuSe” has me STANKIN 😂😂😂
Give him his OSCAR! -NOT 😂😂
I really believe Greg is irredeemable. The callousness of how he talks about the whole situation and the pride he took in taking his own mother's life is sickening.
Are you a doctor? Incredible insight here. Thank you
@@irie_fatherwhen a white guy likes the sound of his own voice
What about his two friends?
@@pauldaniels2179 what about them?? Speak up pip squeek!
@@irie_father I think you miss read me, Im saying they just as crazy as him. But the "pip squeek thing" come on, your behind a screen, you cant be tough on the internet behind a screen and a keyboard😁😁😁
This case actually had my jaw dropped. The way he was so nonchalant about explaining how he killed his mom and what he did with the body????! Actually unreal
All humans are the same, we're all capable of this in the right circumstances, and that is what I think truly disturbs people
You couldn't be more wrong lol@@Feuerbach1
@@Feuerbach1you need to search for a help asap !
Same. I listen to/ watch true crime stuff like all day every day but this one got me. We even vacation in daytona every year and my dad has been trying to move there for years. I had never heard this one. But my jaw dropped, I shook my head, I audibly gasped... this one was wild
@@Feuerbach1spoken like a serial killer.
The fact his mom was scared to sit close to him is heart breaking. I'm just looking at my baby boy, the way he smiles at me, and the way he snuggles up next to me and I just can't imagine what Gail must have felt, looking her baby boy in the eyes as he ends her life, seeing the same eyes she looked at while she snuggled him as a baby, nursed him, changed his diaper, gave him baths.
Truly gut-wrenching.
Describe it like that and it's fr something 😿😿
You ignored the part where Greg describes that GAIL used to hit him and beat him (and that it got worse and worse) ☠️
A child's parents have a lot of say in how their kid's mind is shaped though. Gai;'s behavior towards him didn't seem like that of a warm, loving parent. It's horrifying what a lack of love from parents can make people do.
wow - after this I had to look up that hitting your children is apparently still legal in the USA. thank god I live in a more civilized country. I mean he is bad but his mom might have been a bad person as well?
@@hinglemccringleberry7265you can hit your hit but not beat them
Imagine giving birth to your own killer, life's really weird.
the sexual assault line gave me so much second hand embarrassment because it was so obvious he tried to change the subject & manipulate their emotions/empathy😭. it was such a weak attempt
When does that come up?.
Nvm it just came up.
@CranBerry-0 when does it come up
@@blitzwarzone342 43:21
@@HotBootInTheAss wait when?
Imagine being the kid's sponsor, someone I'm guessing was pretty involved in his life, sitting in with him and supporting him during a time when you assume he's going through a lot of heartbreak only for him to confess to murdering his mother right in front of you.
The sponsor was a detective himself with the department. He was brought in to assist in the interview, not to support Greg.
When the detective walks out and tells him to talk to the sponsor, it was a tactic to try and get Greg to confess, as he may be more willing to confess to somebody he knows and trusts.
The sponsor I can assure you was well aware of why Greg was being interviewed.
@@willmckee1632he was kiddo's sponsor and he was shocked about hearing it. Don't act it's not correct
The other sidr of a story is his detective role in a case that helped questitoning
Edit: I am just reading that hoth Brian and the other broke their paroles and not sure if Brian is going to prison now
The sponsor knew right away, as soon as he saw the marks on his face.
Imagine you are a cop and a woman is missing. You find the son with a swollen eye and bruises. Then you find the house very differently out of order than any other robbed house you saw and the son behaves strangely. That alone is very telling to those cops and I think they pretty much knew it immediately. @@BushcraftEurope
They already knew if after they listened the 911 call , you think he found out that at the end of video?
Wow, once he realized they knew it was him they couldn't shut him up. He was so eager to show the cops how clever he was in planning this murder and coverup.
He was literally bragging. Disgusting.
I just cant understand people like this, its beyond my comprehension of how truly evil people can be. His own mother to top it off.
Classic narcissist. Head too far up his own ass to realize how it sounds. You could see a lot of glimpses of that even through his lies, like when he felt the need to go into detail of how his door got knocked down or the very specific items "missing."
Just straight up psychopaths. None of them have any empathy.
Well you remember in the beginning where in this "argument" with his mom, he kept referring to how "capable" he is. He seems pretty sure of himself. Most of the time, people that talk like that are pretty narcissistic.
Imagine the amount of men and women like this kid who actually make cops and are never found to be evil. People get away with it daily.
You do know your comment is extremely warped.
Your mind is probably warped too.
Get some help.
Judging by how most cops are, it's probably a solid majority of the police force.
@@HossEehossnot really. It’s a well known fact that psycho and sociopaths are attracted to positions of power. I’m not saying a majority of police are but there is no doubt in my mind that some have slipped by under the radar
@@HossEehoss 👀
@@HossEehoss 👀
"Only one person keeps a secret, Greg!"
Wow, such great and quick thinking by the officer, shutting down his BS, absolute gold. Hats off for that amazing investigator!
has the quick thinking officer forgot to read the little monster his Maranda rights? EDIT: Oops. my bad. I missed it.
@@lopezlopez7132at the beginning of the video the narrator talks about this
@@carloswinchester2623 He does? I guess I missed it. My bad.
I think he was so quick to the killer's game!
I had to laugh at him handing out that little nugget of fatherly advice.
Wow the interrogator really said “you killed your mom” and the silence was SO LOUD. I actually gasped. And the feeble “why would you think that” is just so horrifying. Freaking sinister. Unbelievable.
@@Evil_Teddydamn lol
@@Evil_Teddy mmm, no, that expression is working just fine for me. Find a better form of interacting with people.
@@Evil_Teddyman cmon don't be that guy, you understood her just fine, it's an expression similar to "the silence was deafening" just get along
@@Evil_Teddyactual 🤓 moment
I gasped too, I was soo surprised the detective just said it like that out of nowhere 😭
watching this interview is making me realize that I would come across as guilty even if I'm innocent.
Spot on the big problem with the channel's signature type of bullshit analysis
Same.
Yeah I'm thinking the same, I have social anxiety, PTSD. And likely high functioning autism based on some testing. I do a lot of arm crossing, feet up on chairs, lack of eye contact, over explaining and hyper fixating etc.
My mom has always told me that you’re guilty by association. You’re guilty just for being around and seeing it happen. It doesn’t matter if you didn’t stab someone, or you didn’t strangle them. But you were still there and saw what happened. So obviously the cops are going to get you in jail time.
@@MW-cw9yi deadass same 100%
anxiety and social anxiety, i think i have PTSD behaviors from my childhood. dunno about autism but the more i learn about it the more i begin to think im a very high functioning autist xD. Crossing my arms is so comfortable, perhaps the MOST comfortable, even if i have a sweater with a big pocket, it still more comfy to cross arms, feet up on chair 100%, cross legs or ankle on knee, i CANNOT eye contact unless i force it and commit to it and psychologically gaslight the other person into thinking THEYRE the awkward one by ignoring the awkwardness and forcing THEM to deal with it xD i LOOOVE over explaining because the more details i can shove into ever single moment i can, the more information i feel like im conveying, and the more it can be understood as long as time is taken to dissect and put together everything im spewing out LMAO, but thats the problem, thats IF the time was taken to analyze everything i said and did and whatever. normal people wont really put in all that effort just to better understand all the information i just conveyed, they'll just give up half way through everything im saying and just close it off with an "uh huh, oh yeah, for sure, i know exactly what you mean" xD so in normal cases more is less, because it easier to understand easier things, even if easier things have less intricate details that you can gain more information from, that just makes it harder to see it all when youre bombarded with every small detail, like, unless you take the time to analyse it, which like i said, normal people, in a normal convo arent going to take the time to do that, and will just forget all the nonsense i spewed, kinda like what i just did with this comment right now. i kept adding more and more and more details which makes it harder and harder to grasp my exact point just from a glance and it now takes time and effort to work your way through this whole comment to be able to understand it all more clearly as one cohesive story or whatever, idk. but like if i would have just said "deadass same 100% me too" then thats it, thats all you got, its way easier to understand, and draw conclusions from, but in becoming easier to understand at face value, it get much much MUCH harder to understand what exactly my situation is, i can say "100% same" and then they'll think it the same exact 1 to 1 issue, but if i say "100% same" and then explain every bit of why i came to the conclusion of "100% same" then they understand the more in depth reasoning behind why i felt that im "100% samesies" 😂does this comment alone prove im autistic? uh oh, dont diagnose me, i dont wanna know
“I’m not gonna get a birthday or Christmas…” when I heard that in the intro my
jaw hit the floor. That is such a perfect example to show how teenagers brains are not fully developed yet. The kid speaking there clearly has absolutely zero clue about the severity of the situation he’s involved in. An absolute tragedy all around.
You can’t blame it on age, even a 5 year old could understand that
When I was 15 I definitely understood consequences. This teen is just deranged.
I bet there was a lot of rage inside of the Detective and wanting lash out at this Kid. Mad respect for staying mature and professional about the situation
Those poor detectives really need a long vacation after this interviews so disgusting.
I was definitely feeling rage after the confession
@@dondrake100 The "Whatever" (especially them) along with others had me getting extremely angry
Well if he loses his cool it can throw the whole confession into jeopardy.
I said the exact same thing. I had to walk away a few times because I was so upset at the kid's reaction to this whole thing. And again when the other kids were like "Oh no, I'm fired." Damn straight you're getting fired. And losing everything else, too.
It’s absolutely disgusting hearing him explain the whole scenario of how he killed his mom, it made me feel worse at him referring to his moms body as “bitch”, it’s absolutely sickening
@@politelyvulgarvernacular Of course you do.
@@politelyvulgarvernacularwould you like a medal for your edgy-ness? Since clearly you are super cool and totaly unphased like the rebel you are!
@@politelyvulgarvernacular I was actually thinking the same thing lmao. 😂
Seemed more try-hard to me.
@@politelyvulgarvernacularcongratulations, wanna come over to my place so we can laugh about it?
News footage, police bodycam footage of the crime scene, analyzed interrogations, court footage and sentencing all combined make for the perfect true crime video. I wish more channels would stick to that forumula as well. That's why EWU is #1.
Well do you know why they don't? Because it's an unbelievable amount of work and effort.
@@chadspro exactly, hence why what he said still stands
Not sure if you’ve ever watched “That Chapter”. But it’s a good watch as well! Mike is great
@@NORTAH85 "That Chapter" what is that?
@chad3075 prob not cheap to get that footage either.
I grew up in the 80's. My father always told me that if I ever came home and found that the house had been broken into, the first thing you never do is go inside. He told me to call the police immediately, his reasoning, you don't know if they're still in there.
The moment of Greg's confession was incredibly horrifying. Straight faced, bluntly stating such a shocking moment of anyone's life in the same tone one would use when complaining about a minor inconvenience on a work day. 15 years old and that kid is the stuff of nightmares.
Beyond that, crowed with pride about. His eventual admittance showed how everything before was sham emotion. At first my heart great tugged a little thinking a bad moment in uncontrollable emotion had this kid wrecked, killing his mom. But that shit was fake fake fake
But the way his mother beated him (you saw those bruises on his face) quite explain his calmness. He must have been brought up this way. I can imagine her anger because of his attitude to school and marks, etc., but to beat up a teen like this is for sure a marker of domestic violence. And yes, sometimes they beat back. She did her best to bring him up like this, and she got fruits. I feel sorry for both of them, but I am not surprised. If somebody beats you up like this it is unlikely that you will grow an deeply empathical and compassionate person.
And I guess nobody knew about this abuse? Including his father. They both needed help and they didn't receive it. I feel sorry for both.
@@aiveeaivee4607 I feel sorry more for Greg than his mother tbh.
If that is scary then you have no business in real life this is so tame. Just a sick kid who needed help but doesn't get it
Yep that's what a psychopath is.
The absolute callousness with which Gregory spoke about killing his own mother and disposing of her body, is one of the most evil things I have ever seen. The other two boys were almost as bad.
"The b*tch" what a savage.
Imagine if his mom really was evil towards him though.
Thinking about it that way puts an even darker spin on it.
@@az9498he should have told his dad or a counselor that sponsor or somebody
@@paulettelamontagne6992not defending him but it’s not that simple. If you haven’t been through it you likely wouldn’t understand. I was physically and mentally abused by my parents my entire childhood and was so terrified and brainwashed of them I never told. It took my cross country coach noticing the bruises and calling the cops for CPS to step in.
@@az9498 He said that his mother was afraid of him. He recounted twice how she told him that.
The lead questioning detective is brilliant, you can tell this man has a very high IQ and incredible amount of ability to process, remember, and store information for later parts of the questioning. He does this quite effectively and remembers everything the kid is saying to him, and often mirrors what he says in an odd but funny manner. His no bullshit attitude and the fact that the other detective does not interrupt him is very well executed. What an honour watching this man do his craft. Thank you EWU for all your hard work, and the amazing content you put out!
thank you bob
Did a shoddy attempt trying to cover it up as a burglary, for example; why would any burglar waste time or bother looking through the kitchen; honestly, gonna get the find of a life time in a cutlery draw?! and then wasting time breaking stuff as well to alert the neighbours?
Braking stuff for sure. Going to the kitchen drawers it did happened to me. It was probably a desperate drug addict.
@@shaw7598thank you if that's you doing the interrogation
I believe he was quite shaken at the end..
It's so surreal to think that a woman could carry a developing fetus in her womb, never dreaming that the baby she carries within her, will one day murder her. Then she feeds the newborn baby, bathes him, changes his diaper, rocks him to sleep, never knowing what he will ultimately do to her. Matricide is such an appalling crime.
“Believe in Reincarnation.”
~Neville Goddard~💜
@@조선원숭이”no”
- me
Your own mother can be abusive and evil to you as well, which can cause matricide
The hardest this kid has ever worked in his life was the night he killed his own mother who’d given him everything. Disgusting
All 3 of these boys are the product of lazy, inadequate, and inappropriate parenting, and probably inferior genetics, too. There's a reason why they associated with each other. I guarantee their families are disgusting, vile people who are poor role models in every aspect to do with maturity and respect. They show no respect for others, for safety, for the property of others, for appropriate socializing according to any circumstance in which they would find themselves. These boys and their families are ignorant. I highly doubt they would have done any better with their lives even if not involved with this incident.
... also, it's FLORIDA. Ew.
NO SHIT!!! 👏
@@charmingjinx9379his worst offense is being from fl*rida
Wanted more because of seeking friends approval.
The fact that he tried to appear like the murder was hard on him by saying he almost killed himself, then saying he tried to cut off her finger to pawn the wedding ring astounds me.
And then referring to her as "the bitch" when he said he kicked her into the hole 😬
Sick
i laughed when he said kick the b
@@breepoole8461
@@lonelynights5393huh💀
@@bobbyhill9918 I mean that was unexpected
“Am I even going to jail, because I’m a minor? That’s not a thing, right? …..is that a thing?” Lmfao bro you’re cooked, byyyye
The judge is going to smoke his boots
There's jails for people under 19 actually I think, basically jail tutorial mode
Forreal😂
He is a few screws short on being smart infact he was probably dropped at birth on the floor by the Doctor
Prison for life ❤
Someone needs to also arrest whoever gave Brian that haircut.
Agree. It's a terrible version of the one my boyfriend had in 1994 when we were 15.
@@brianawamsley5415 this haircut by itself can turn people into murderers
It really is the most horrible haircut I've ever seen
I found it absolutely terrifying that he had already taken such an active interest in policing.
Clearly he's been planning this for a long time.
Agree'
40% of cops beat their wives!
You'll be surprised what you will find out about cops if you did a thorough background check from the time they were children....
@@OldManBoxingbet big money a large percentage of serial killers in America are law enforcement.
he says he'd never hit her through rage, yet he kill her through rage
Well honestly the more you hold that rage back, the more you try to hold it in, the more likely you are to snap, a big one, so that's not too far fetched.
but it didn't seem Iike he even WAS in a rage. It seemed mroe Iike a "mmmh... Whatever... " kind of decision, rather than a deep in the heat of the moment, snap!
@@The_Man_Who_Sold_the_World. While I do think he might not have hit her before however I also think he is a psychopath either the case. Even if he snap and attack her. Most people regain their confidence after short amount of time and definitely before 30 min of strangling. Definitely the mom isn't a good person but didn't deserve the death. Anyway really sad news and it should make parents realise after certain age your children will not tolerate your mental and physical abuse and might fight back and kill you.
Who would even say that. How about "I've never hit her" like us normal people who don't hit people would say. What a pathetic spoilt rotten brat he is.
well.. he wasn't lying when he said that lol
The cut right after he gloats about his work staging the robbery to the investigators immediately being suspicious of the crime scene just shows how delusional these psychopaths are, they truly beleive they are leauges above everyone else in intelligence.
Unfortunately our current culture is adept at creating teenage narcissists. Everything from children's cartoons to terrible parents who are simply buddies with their kids to mainstream music is enabling this behavior.
I don’t think he’s a psychopath, honestly it’s a term that’s very hard to remove from your lexicon but I hope in another decade or two people will stop using it as an insult. He was obviously fully lucid the whole time, just chooses to lie to himself so he can get even more sick kicks out of it. So ironic that he needs to fish for everybody else’s approval and admiration despite thinking he’s so much better than everyone else.
@@high-bi-passwordPsychopaths are very much lucid.
@@high-bi-password You are mistaking psychopath with psychotic. Psychotic people break with reality. Psychopaths are lucid and this boy shows all kinds of signs of psychopathy. He's probably going to score over 30.
And while not all narcissists are psychopathic, ALL psychopaths are narcissistic, thus his need for constant approval and admiration.
@@whyme7996thanks for schooling him on that. The field of psychology has been completely hijacked from the left wing university’s and so many things are getting muddled and confused now.
This is why I love this channel. The best to do it when making these.
This kid portrayed himself as respectful and well spoken. He's a psychopath at the age of 15. The charm and being active in the community and a wanna be cop as a cover. Imagine if he restrained himself and ended up going to the police academy. Hopefully they would have caught his bs cover of being a good guy. Terrible ending for mom.
honestly you'd be surprised how many people like him become police officers or join the military. I mean think about it, they have some violent urges, cops often have to use violence. so they essentially get to be violent without real repercussions
I am not saying that they are all like that though, just that the job will naturally attract individuals like that
@@chompster2706 PMCs are basically their dream job because they are mercenaries with no legal repercussions
That's because psychopaths are born.
Sociopaths are made through horrible trauma in childhood.
@@MsLoverofTruthExactly. Maybe if she had kept her hands off him, things would have been different. There are only victims in this story.
@@louisjacob7399How do you even know that part is legit!? The kid is a liar. Smh. All those marks could’ve came from her defending herself and his attempt to stage and cover up a crime scene.
The fact he admitted to it so calmy is terrifying
The two friends joking and acting up is so crazy and upsetting
Like attracts like. We human beings tend to hang with other people who have similar behavior/character traits.
weird@@DragonballZTime
Not weird at all. They must be just as screwed up as their fellow murder friend. These types of guys are most likely to end up on drugs or in jail.@@Starscream8896
and talking about "decomposing body" and trying to get the ring from her finger, wtf
Let's hear it for single mothers raising well adjusted boys.
This is without a doubt the best detective I've seen in any video you have posted so far. This guy was on his game from the very beginning and just no bullshit at all.
Yes, I agree that sponsor Jones was straightaway suspicious when he didn’t want to come up with Joe’s surname. Gregory regretted calling Jones just as quick😂
@@Ainaes-FelineYep! You’re right. I noticed that straightaway too. His sponsor wasn’t cutting him any slack.
Yes he is a true pro detective
Without taking away from his work - he was dealing with a 15 year old moron.
This detective is in another case on this channel. Look up "Detectives left sickened by killer mom's confessions" but that case is pretty gruesome, just a tw
"Don't say 'blah blah blah, whatever' anymore, Gregory."
"Ok so like I said before, it was like 'blah, blah blah, whatever.'"
"you should give me a Grammy for my 911 call" is insane
It's chilling what a narcissistic psychopath Gregory is. His mother told him she was scared of him -- she knew him well.
Are you a doctor to be able to diagnose him lol and the word narcissists is being used way too much
did u watch the video bozo?@@theredwhoop9372
@@theredwhoop9372 did you watch the video
@currency2953 idgaf if I do watch the video who are you mfs to diagnose someone
@@theredwhoop9372it's clear, the way he acts and speaks
If an actor in a movie acted exactly like this killer, people would say it was unrealistic. He was so cold and nonchalant. The other two acting like it was not going to affect them other than some minor inconvenience is astounding
No matter how psychopathic you are, it's hard to commit a crime like this and lie hundreds of times to the cops without slipping up.
well look at patrick bateman, hes pretty much the same but charismatic
@@kaitlynmorgan4613😂
Yeah, people watching TV and movies love drama. Real life situations like these have little to no drama after the initial shock of what happened.
It's chilling to me.
It took him 20 minutes to strangle his mom with his bare hands 😳 He had plenty of time to stop, but he didn’t. He was looking into her face while squeezing the life out of her. I can’t imagine what kind of thoughts were rushing through his mom’s head when he was leaning over her. So scary
This!!!!
He put two belts around her legs and dragged her into the car... He's talking about his dead mother!!! 🥲
I feel so bad for his mother he is an animal!
Can you imagine what his poor mother was thinking? Your own flesh and blood, for what? An argument over his school work?
Stupid, selfish child.
@@GamerBoyL1906the Bible says don’t hit your parents I would never think about killing my parents how could that dude do that to his parents especially when they gave him birth he ought to be ashamed of himself
He may seem unbothered about killing his mom now but later in life it will hit him that he only had one mother and she’s gone because of him.
no he will never regret not having a mother 100%
41:53 "You killed your mom"
*long pause*
New favorite detective found, goes straight to the point, no bs, no batting around the bush
Good catch!
The fact his mum sat him down in the months before to say she was scared of him was a huge red flag. He even used that as a defense, saying he told her he'd never put his hands on her, but the fact she said it at all says a lot.
I have teenage children and never once have they made me fearful of them.
My Mum said this to my Brother once that she was scared of him. He has since left our family. I feel extremely lucky that he is gone and never proved my Mum right. She often says she thinks he was on the border or sociopathy. I’ve been very interested in stories like this ever since.
@@mintymushrooms8025 it must be really hard when it's your child but when you see stories like this you realise even children can turn on their parents. I'm glad your mum feels safe now 🙏
@@yorkshirelass8786 I hope she does. She always struggles around the holidays but she has stopped blaming herself for how things turned out. I’ll never understand how something like that would make a ‘mother’ feel but it must be awful. All you can do is love them unconditionally.
Mom of 3 sons...same. Unimaginable to think she was fearful of her own son. 😢
I will say I had a narcissistic father who constantly hurt me physically…. And would claim he was scared of me to anyone who would listen. Fortunately it was pretty clear to everyone who the problem was
I can understand someone not telling a teacher or guardian "hey so and so said they killed their mom" because that's such an outlandish thing to even imagine hearing from a fellow teen... but the moment the cops come to your door and say "so and so's mom is missing".. how do you not say "oh my god, he said he killed his mom earlier today! I just didn't believe him". Like why try and make up stories about it? And the fact that they are so nonchalant about it all is creepy as hell.
Maybe he didn't want to get in trouble for not reporting it.
my thoughts exactly :(
I think they had more involvement than they let on. Multiple times he says “we” when confessing
That, and in between all the covering up and everything, why didn't they all agree on a story together? Once the cops arrested them, they each confessed to their part of it, and then even once he was caught, and could've copped to everything, the killer through all of them under the bus too.
These guys were some of the worst criminals I've seen (in terms of organization)
Like, he hands the guy all his stuff to fake a robbery, but then the guys like "Yea, he gave it all to me the other day"
I don't know. I was an idiot kid too, not a murderer but I can see myself just not thinking like it was serious the claim of murder, also, teens don't just tell things to parents or teachers. What they did WAS bad, and they should be punished, but I can see myself just not seen it as a big deal as a kid and just seen it as "cool, free shit"
Jesus Christ! How are all 3 of these kids are so disturbed. How is it possible that they’re all like this? Complete lack of remorse, respect for life
OH SHIT This footage is finally out! I wasn't directly friends with him, but my friends were, Brian and Dylan. Crazy to see how this happened. I found out this happened at work one time, it was so surreal when I heard his name. One day at school, he mentioned his cat was killed, and I was like "I'm sorry, how old was she?" He said she was shot with a bb gun, multiple times, he totally killed that fucking cat and I figured he was just trying to be edgy.
yoo that's crazy, was he usually antisocial and did a lot of ppl think he was weird
@@にちはHYPERSPACE I mean, it wasn’t anything TOO weird, he just seemed like a regular “weird” kid that I knew, and clearly had a troubled home life, but he had no issue talking to anyone, pretty social dude. Just took a turn for the worst unfortunately..
Is anyone at school angry at those 2 friends or were their reputations not as bad as his? I've seen a lot of ppl from your school in the comment section, they seem chill about the whole thing
@@bhagrtwas it true about him being sexually assaulted or was that all made up to garner sympathy? Same question for Greg and Dylan wanting to kill themselves were any of that true? I know he was mixing the lies with some of the truths but it wasn't really clear to me in the end.
It's so confusing that he wanted to kill himself but he's grateful to his mom for keeping him alive, then proceeds to kill his mom for allegedly wanting to kill him when he wanted to die in the first place.
@@ChrisM-qo1jc Not sure about any sexual assault, Dylan actually was my neighbor, and thats how I met him and Brian when I moved into that neighborhood and when I changed school to University HS. Dylan was a smart kid, he had struggled with depression etc. I dont believe Greg was suicidal. He admitted to taking the course of Forensics or whatever to try and help him better understand the workings of investigations. Not personally, but I vaguely remember reading it in one of the written articles after the murder. He definitely thought he was smarter than he was. But I believe he was just troubled, and he shows less remorse because I'm sure she wasn't the greatest to him, but I don't think murder is justifiable at all. But I don't like how these videos portray some things... Of course after murdering their mother, they're less likely to be super remorseful/show emotions because they're still processing it, it's not just narcissism. It's a life changing event, trauma, shock. And Brian and Dylan got stuck with his shitty problem, and I feel for em cuz they were smart dudes, funny guys and were my homies back at UHS, but they should've stayed clear of Greg for sure. Before I enlisted, I actually ran into Brian working at a McDonald's by my house. Chatted it up a little, nothing into the situation, but he seemed to be doing better. Believe this was before he was sentenced the 364 days in jail. But I believe they'll be doing better once they serve. It's truly a shame.
The point where he reaches the confession is horrific and mentally exhausting. He’s a narcissistic sociopath.
Yeah, but human existence isn't always perfect. Greg's Mom was an abusive bxtch and so were the other parent figures his life. His biological father, literally threw him and knocked him out as a toddler. It's not that its astonishing these toxic families exist, we're just more aware now than ever in the age of social media and technology.
Mentally exhausting. Exactly. “Whatever. Blah, blah, blah.” Truly horrifying that when you lock your door at night your locking your killer in with you. It’s scary how smart he is, and then he has glimpses where you realize he’s fifteen.
Emotionlessness doesn't by itself mean you have a specific mental disorder. There's also just being a bad person.
Im driving and I started screaming what the fuck what the fuck. Something I only uncontrollably scream when Something horrible is happening
@Jase-L bs, and you're another Greg in the making or already are. Yeah, blame it on someone else, always. All those names for generations you concocted up are also to blame others for your own shortcomings. Face it, humanity is cancer, always will be. I lost all faith in it, nothing ever comes good from trusting another human being. And that L at the end suits you.
I can't imagine how Greg's mentor must be feeling as he's watching all of this unfold.
He knew from the first 30 seconds.Police departments look for specific types of kids for these explorer programs because they can mold them into cops who will follow directions blindly.
@@francissobotka8725hell probably get paid administrative leave and a promotion.
@francissobotka8725 give me a break...
@@kellyfinleybrown9313 Based on how police reacts to the public and treats individuals violently, some of it outright murder which they get away from without even being fired, I'd say there is a reason why cops (I call cops Chekas) have a trust problem with the public. I usually say that the biggest mafia is the cops, because they're armed, they can lie as they whish, protected by the justice system, and colleagues who lie for them too.
@@francissobotka8725he knew from the first 30 seconds because he knows the kid and is an experienced detective.
But you're being quite conspiratorial about police explorer programs.
And I say that as someone who is generally critical of American police culture.
He’s a malignant narcissist/psychopath. Crazy how their minds work. Absolutely frightening!!
The scariest part about this is that this kid is 15 and he’s talking about his crime like he’s been doing this for 20 years.
when contrasted with the stress of trying to improvise some dumb alibi, bursting the floodgates open about what really happened flows like water
Stop calling grow up adults kids
@@PepeCoinMania But he is a kid? He's 15. Not an adult.
@@PepeCoinManiaHe's a kid, knobhead. And a KID sees everything differently. He only remembers about 10 years of his life and in that time, his mum was hitting him and I guess his dad up and left at some point. Not excusing it, but it's not an adult that did it out of the blue. You don't need a degree in psychology to figure that out.
The narrator's voice is so annoying.
The way his whole demeanor changed when he decided to show his true self was chilling. And the “oh well whatever” way he described what he did to her… I really hope he’s never released he WILL hurt others
on god bro hes a demon
This kid is dangerous !
facts he seems like a potential serial killer or he would reoffend again if he was released
The reason why this was solved so quickly is because the lead detective and his team had zero egos. They just wanted to find this poor woman and let her son blather on, knowing what he was capable of. Kudos.
Zero egos?? Wtf does that have to with anything you must not of met any detective most are great and do a great job and don't have egos these aren't basic cops where some absolutely do. Fuck you people are zombies
the exact opposite of isabella's case detectives..............
The real reason it was solved so quickly is because it was committed by a 15 year old.
Nah it was solved quickly because the killer is an idiot
Yeah he's the worst. I think he could have gotten away with it but he made 2 mistakes.
The dispatcher asked cogent questions and had a supportive tone.
I appreciate her professionalism.
It's scary when a 15 year old is that manipulative and has such an overview of the whole situation. Even the way he talks gives me shivers. How proud he is of himself, like how smart he planned the aftermath, in the end...sickening
It was freaky listening to a 15 year old speak with the arrogace and confidence of a 40 year old. I'm so glad he was caught before he grew up and got REALLY good at it.
He watched way too many crime shows on tv. He's got the fake tv dialogue down.
I grew up in the backwoods of Volusia Co, what use to be anyways. This is par for the course and I’m convinced the high concentration of sulphur in the water plays a part. For context my great aunt and uncle were shot point blank in the chest by their farm manager, he dumped their vehicle in the swamps of Flagler and buried their bodies under hay bales. Now that I think about it all of Central Florida is F’d
He might be intelligent, but his mom was right about him being arrogant, he really thought this whole cover up was going to work, he really thought he could talk his way out of it with 2 other intelligent human beings in front of him who's entire career is based around finding out the holes in your story lol thank God he is so arrogant so they can lock his ass up. The whole lacking actual human emotion is a thing that he should have thought about, maybe if he was really smart he would have taken acting classes, guess he didnt think that through, and just assumed no one would question him even though he lives in the house lol derp.
@@mwalimu8602plz 😭
I think the most disturbing part is that even after he's confessed to murder he still tries to work a spin to present himself as a sympathetic victim, but he lacks any indication of being emotionally distraught and driven to the 'temporary insanity' that he's trying to pretend he had. Like the gravity of what he did never weighs on him; he's just constantly thinking only of himself and how to minimize the damage he's going to face. It's chilling.
Every normal being is thinking only about himself. If somebody tells you he is not - he is either lie or he was having low education to understand how brain function.
He doesn't even do that, he's literally bragging about it, incriminating himself even further
I can sometimes sympathize a little with an individual that murders a parent, partner, etc. out of fear from being harmed, abused, or while in the process of being attacked. *HOWEVER* I personally don't believe Greg's allegations regarding his Mother and even if it were true he's not a little dude. He could've used proportional force to get away or at any time could've sought help. In my opinion he got off way too light. The tax payers are going to be footing the bill for keeping him incarcerated which is expensive. In California it costs $106,000 a year per inmate which is on the higher end and different in each state but it's not cheap anywhere. Prison is no where near as horrible as the average person thinks or is lead to believe. I've done close to 4 years altogether and I've never had an issue inside. I'm by no means some type of Billy Bad Azz, I'm 5'8, 195 lbs, white, and have long hair; not exactly what you would consider intimidating. Despite that I've never had a problem getting on the phone never been extorted, been a target, or any of the horrible things you hear about happening in prison. Not saying it doesn't happen, there are definitely evil individuals behind bars that target the weak but for the most part doing time is a cake walk as long as you don't go out looking for trouble, don't have an X in the box (term for PDFile), or get involved in high risk activities like drugs or gangs. Hell, I didn't even join a prison gang until my last stint when I was in my early 30's so for most of my time I didn't even have backup. To be honest I wish I had never joined but most of my friends from the streets as well as guys I rolled with inside were DMI. They had been trying to recruit me for years but I was never interested. I don't even have a good answer as to why I finally said yes besides boredom and curiosity.
Sorry for being long winded but the point is prison is not that horrible and a joke of a punishment. The fact Greg and others get to live in relative comfort on tax payer dollars isn't fair.
This shit is totally scripted and not real!
@@HuwhyteMany'all got no access to any kind of techbology in prison right (e.g. no phone, laptop, wifi access)
Gregg literally sounds like he is telling the story of how he got a flat tire and how it ruined his morning as he confesses to killing his mother is incredibly scary. The mild annoyance he has shows he is still a teen at heart yet he is a sociopath.
I think he's a psychopath.
It was scary how matter of fact it was. Bone Chilling.
@@duchessdizI think so too. Psychopaths are born, sociopaths are made.
Oops! I meant to reply to duchessdiz.🤣
thats a psychopath, recognise the difference, sociopaths are weak, this dude speaks like nothing can get to him
As a mother, I can't believe how devoid of emotions this kid was. Once he stopped lying, he didn't even pretend to feel anything.
Holy crap….listening to Greg’s two friends at the end of the video was more shocking to me than Greg’s confession! Not only are they completely unaware that they committed a crime and are probably going to serve time, the fact that someone is DEAD has escaped their mind. Absolutely amazing and sad all at the same time.
I'd bet the bank that all three of these boys were on SSRIs.
if both would have not talked to the police and just said nothing, they would have never been discovered. that would have been awesome
Their brains are not fully developed yet.
@@HansGuru-f2o wdym 'awesome' did you forget they murdered someone??? Bsffr PLEAASE
@@doetodeer the fuck do anti depressants have to do with this? these kids clearly show signs of sociopathy not depression or anxiety.
I can't imagine how these cops did this interrogation. Imagine being face to face with such a remorseless killer who strangled his mom twice. He could have stopped by nope was like I need to finish this. This kid is such a danger to society
He is a textbook intractable sociopath. You cannot change them. Ever.
My question, there is Dad. 😮
This is too common a trope now a day. Single mother, no dad around, not really if at all, and kids end up half baked if at all really raised, on their merry way to repeat the cycle of distinction. Anyhow... The real danger in society, what is actually been growing for past two decades, is explosive growth of single parent households. Kids out of those, are a total mess, and half the time, a social menace.
He innocent! He ain't hurt nobody!
@theflame5919 the menace in America are all the junkies and drunks having children like rabbits. America is inbreeding because people are having children with siblings they never knew existed. America insists on existing in an altered state of mind with drugs and alcohol and every excuse in the book for why they're not responsible for their actions. Like him.
@@hastyhillfarmand4x480 great. YOU be his roommate and cellie
It is insane how delusional he is. He is SOOO PROUD of everything he did and keeps saying he woulda gotten away with it if he X Y or Z, but bro was arrested within 24 hours of the murder??? Damn its sad to see a human being that far gone
he said the staged crime scene was legit, like he did a good job. It was just stuff ripped open and tossed around like the burglar had a tantrum and was okay with walking around with broken glass around. This guy is a clueless narcissist
That's not a Human being He's was a demon.
@@xavior1222No that's human behavior, don't give demons a bad name like that.
@@MikeRotch-ur7sx don't care I said what I said that's not Human behavior that's demonic behavior and demons are bad anyway and someone liked my reply because that person agreed so like I just said don't care and I said what I said.
@@MikeRotch-ur7sxcmoooooon. Demons make people do that. Ever read the story of the demon legion?
As I’m loading up diablo IV.
I love how they figured this all out in less than 24 hours.
Brilliant plan from a brilliant kid.
How he just says “kicked the bitches body in the hole” is just so crazy. That’s his own mother he’s talking about. He has no remorse, he literally seems proud. Sure I argue with my mom a lot, but strangling her? Never crossed my mind. AND the way he left bc he thought she was dead, but saw her moving and still continues to kill her instead of rethinking just shows that this wasnt impulse, he wanted to do that.
Edit: Y’all I understand not every mom is a good person, and abuse is abuse. Yes, maybe he was abused, and maybe he is psychotic but what I’m saying is that this wasn’t impulse. Maybe in the beginning it was, but turning back to finish the job shows his lack of remorse and empathy. Now, if the mom was abusive there are other ways to get out of the situation than brutally strangling her. If he was abused, of course I feel empathy, but to say that it validates murder? No. I think he was sane while doing this as well, he has no remorse.
If she was as abusive as he said, I’m sure he could justify his actions in his own mind. He’s not a psychopath, that’s for sure.
@@Sniperboy5551 I'm confused as to how you concluded he's not a psychopath? He seems to fit it quite well.
@@Sniperboy5551
Bait used to be believable
That line stuck out to me too. Truly had zero empathy for what he did, to his own mother….
Mate, your Mom isn't every Mom. There are Mom's that are downright evil, abused their kids to death and are in prison. No idea if his Mom was good or bad, but given his actions, either she was or he is a born killer.
The no-BS detective is really fantastic. I’ve watched a lot of these with varying degrees of how some of them do their work. He’s great at what he does.
I agree. He was right to the point when he, all of a sudden, asked him if he killed his Mom. There was none of that pretending he's on his side, or the "well, people make mistakes" ploy. Stright and to the point - "You are lying to me"
i remember when i was 15 years old i would not call the cops if my parents went missing for one afternoon i would just party fuck it ! they
@@fredveefrqc4072Yeah, but the place is trashed and he left his mom's car there.
He also had his Dad coming home later that night, and the neighbor that had the key to check in on them
This must have been so weird and uncomfortable for the other detective. He's been working with this high school kid, seems to know him fairly well.. like I can't imagine what that was like for him listening to these ridiculous answers, knowing he was lying, until finally he admits it all like idk how cops are so good at hiding their emotions lol but that's wild
I’m currently thinking about the same thing! His mind is so blown right now, mine is too! The way he’s just nonchalantly talking about what he did to his poor mother 💔😟😭
Poker face 10/10
Can't have been that uncomfortable - he's texting during the confession.
I imagine a lot of criminals like to get close to law enforcement to learn how to get away with things.
@@philmcclenaghan7056 It's quite common for people to take their phone out and start texting, or start doing something similar when they're in an uncomfortable situation
Detective is a true professional for listening to this kid with a straight face. He was already annoying when introduced but becomes unbearable the moment he decides its confession time. I could only image what the mom had to deal with on a daily basis
This kid is SUCH a narcissist. It's all an act - even his attitude when confessing was fake. He is so desperate for their approval and for them to think he is cool, so he started to pretend like he doesn't even care what happens to him, so therefore, he's acting like it's just a totally casual thing and whatever, no big deal even if he goes to prison. He says "I would have gotten away with it if I hadn't made that one mistake" twice is his grandiose thinking. In reality, he is absolutely terrified throughout this interview.
exactly my thoughts. it’s insane how he can list what he did and not feel remorse, even throwing in jokes during his confession
Yep but not sure he is fearful.
@@doreenplischke2169he’s gonna be a booty bandit miss as a man i can tell you that is something you would rather just die over doing
@@expiredlemonslike who the hell would joke about this he is definitely crazy
@synchronis346badass?
It’s so fascinating to watch how often killers (especially the teen ones) try to take control of the interrogation and make it a stage. They so often behave like they are playing some tv character.
Narcissism is crazy like that
the cops are the ones recording and asking questions so who wants to be on tv
@@kaikai6006they have to record 😭 for their safety and to make sure anything said is caught.
Too much anime
@@kaikai6006you thought you ate ....😂😂💀
Murdering ones parents is the ultimate betrayal.
45 years for that is a slap on the wrist. And what his friends got, is an absolute joke.
This kid is a dangerous, psychotic monster and deserves life in prison with no possibility of parole, but his parents are 100% responsible for creating this monster. Spoiling him? Neglect? No boundaries? Abuse? Who knows what made him what he is today... but whether it was nature or nurture, genetics or environment, his mother made this kid what he was.
@@ohsweetmysterysuch a fucked, predictable outlook. You see a terrified mother, doing her best with a broken child who tries multiple times to kill her, and your first instinct is to blame HER for it. As though psychopaths can’t possibly learn from outside of their mothers. As though they can’t just be more susceptible to evil acts.
She’s already dead. You don’t have to drag her through the dirt.
The friends didn't do it tho
@@capwb No, they just tried to help him get away with murder, and lied to the police. I'm sure they are very nice boys.
Honestly, you're just like those kids, I don't think you fully understand the gravity of the situation to try and cover up a murder for someone, or hindering the police in their investigation.
@@ohsweetmystery No matter what a parent does in life, you can't guarantee that your child will come out normal. I suggest you start consuming more documentaries and books about psychology, killers and psychopaths.
You're either emotional due to him not taking responsibility or feeling guilt, so you want someone to blame, so you blame the mother. Or you're projecting your own life situation where you feel wronged by your own mother and side with a.. MURDERER.
Either way, you need to re-evaluate your life.
Catching liars and slowly getting them to admit the truth is such an amazing skill. I feel like it should be worth much more than knowing Excel or Powerpoint
I find it heartbreaking to think that a year prior, his mom sat him down and probably rather emotionally told him that she was scared of him. Where must her mind have been at that point to approach him like that? She was crying for help. And then a year later she was proven right.
Cause she tried to discipline him in the past he probably thought I can do what I want he’s a spoiled brat
"Do I even go to jail when I am a kid? Do they even do that?" HAHAHA! YUP! Glad they took this sociopath out of society for a long while.
Psychopath. He is clearly born this way , no emotions. He has a history of killing smaller animals. Sociopaths are made, with emotions.
I can't imagine what was going through the mind of Gregory's sponsors just sitting across the room looking at this kid who he thought he knew, thinking that he was there to help encourage and defend him and slowly watching him and realizing that he was a murderer.
I couldn't stop thinking about this! I am also very curious about who he 's texting. Assuming the school... but 👀
I was thinking that along with the fact that this kid could've become a cop if this hadn't occurred.
@@kiki-acabmost do.
I get the feeling he knew early on
when he remained adamant in wanting the name of the "friend he fought", while he kept on trying to wiggle out of answering was big from the start, the kid is obviously hiding something@@autumnbluehue
The most PERFECT example of a sociopath. This guy single handedly brought that diagnosis out of retirement
No normal human being can talk about strangling their mother as if they are just sat with friends at McDonald's. Unbelievable!
@@CaseyJames-bt2dpclassic bullying nice.
@@CaseyJames-bt2dpWhat's your problem? You think it's normal? Silly boy.
@@CaseyJames-bt2dpYou need someone to talk to or what?
"normal human" as in someone who hasn't been traumatized and developed impulsive anger issues from being sexually abused and then physically abused by the only person he trusted. yeah
All I can think is how terrifying it must have been for her, dying at the hands of someone she loved, raised and brought into the world. It’s dying from the inside to the outside. Bless the rest of her family and how do they deal with having loved this guy.🌹
Those friends absolutely helped bury her. He put himself AND his friends at the fire pit that night in the original version of his story, which he later admitted was to explain the location of his phone. Why would he include the friends if they weren't there? And in his story when he switched to saying "we were digging, we dragged her..." No way, they absolutely were there that night.
SPOT ON !!
I thought it was so weird he talked in the plural form, because throughout the interrogation, he never did that, except at this occasion. That's because he got carried away and forgot.
I was also wondering how he managed to dig a hole big enough for a human. On the photo it looks like pretty soft soil, but still, it's a lot of work for one person.
But if there were three of them, it makes sense.
I agree. His fake story of going out with his friends at 1:30am until almost the time school started was totally a cover for them being with him in case their cellphone locations were all checked. Every part of his story he formulated as a way to explain any evidence that could be found. He called them immediately after he killed his mom and they were all up all night covering it up. They all left early from school to finish setting up the scene. I'm totally convinced. They got off light.
yeah, that lardass did NOT dig that hole by himself lol. tubby had his friends help.
He has no friends.
The friends were charged.
Dude when he was bragging about the crime scene and the initial phone call I couldn’t help but laugh at him. I feel bad for the detective for having to be in the same room as a wannabe edge lord
The detective & all the other cops who helped on the case get the last laugh on sentencing day. Now Greg has 25 - 45 years to wait for that award winning 911 call.
@@brienstuart9064I’ve seen Jim Carey win better awards The *Mask*
"I'm gonna be grounded for the next 10 years" man, they had no idea, genuine idiots LOL
if my mom was missing id be extremely worried and crying, but if someone said "you killed your mom," id be sobbing uncontrollably all day because of the implication she was found dead. that kid was absolutely calm being interrogated until he wants to fake cry
I wouldn’t cry as I’m not a very expressive person but yeah if someone told me I killed my mom I would probably stutter “m-m-my mom is d-d-dead?” and lose the ability to breath for a while.
I would be bawling if ANYBODY in my family was missing I would be desperately searching for her I would be the detective
I would freeze exactly like he did but I would remain frozen for the whole day just realizing what I heard
his mom was clearly abusing him. doesn’t justify killing her but he clearly had no way out. kids like this are used to keeping the abuse under wraps that’s why his emotional expression seems misplaced. he’s likely already mourned the loving mother he would’ve had if she wasn’t so abusive in the way that he had described
People do express grief in different ways, and it wouldn't surprise me that much for someone who had legitimately come home to find their mother missing and likely dead to still be calm and not showing emotion when talking to police. Sometimes people bottle it up and don't show it, sometimes people when hit with that kind of trauma turn emotionally numb, and sometimes people take some time before the reality of whats happened actually sinks in and they start having a strong emotional reaction to it. Its part of why I find it a little off the mark when the lack of a "normal" emotional response is interpreted as a red flag.
My sister is a school psychologist at a elementary school here in AZ. She tells me about all the disturbed children she encounters everyday. There are so many that go under the radar and grow up as adults to walk among us. She always gets creeped out or scared. The parents raise them that way. They seem to never care about their childs insane behavior.
finallyy someone who recognizes the parents play a huge role in this..
Right
praise Lucifer 666
True
I don’t think there’s any clinical study indicating children like this are the product of bad parenting. Instead it seems to be something completely out of parental control from my experiences.
For example serial killers generally start off at a young age with animal cruelty. There’s an inner drive to do cruel things regardless if they came from a loving home, a broken home, abusive parents, etc etc.
I used to work at a special public school campus, a portion of which was for emotionally disturbed children. I’m here to tell you some of these kids were straight up fucked in the head even as early as first graders and their parents were loving and responsible and absolutely desperate to get their children help. There was a 1st grader with extreme violent tendencies and a 6th grader with extreme sexual tendencies….you literally could not leave her unattended with a boy because she would go after them. Many others has severely short fuses and the slightest thing could set them off into a violent state.
I had a coworker that was well respected. His child “grew up” with us and had every chance at a successful life but he was always a little off. He went on to another his OWN CHILD that wasn’t even 2 years old.
There’s a lot of child development issues that are the result of bad parenting, but in my experience these extreme narcissistic sociopathic killers are just made that way, no different than how some children have leukemia, or asthma, etc etc.
Teenagers thinking they could fool seasoned detectives is well beyond my understanding.. 🤦🏻♀️
anyone could do it, turns out. we pretend thats not true.. but its true. detectives are not geniuses. they are cops.
Even I knew he was lying thru his teeth with how nervous he was. Very different from his friends
All teenagers think they can out smart adults. Lack of life experience.
It's not just teenagers; it's pretty common overall. We in the psych field call it The Dunning-Kruger Effect. It
s common for people to think they know more than doctors, lawyers, etc.
@@Hap_Shaughessy True that teenagers are usually over confident in themselves. But it's an intelligence thing. I was outsmarting and fooling adults from the age of 10. Got away with EVERYTHING. Burgled my own school multiple times, got "set up" by a girl for drug dealing and also got away with that and turned it around on her, and SHE got expelled not me.
I'm not proud of course. But I never hurt anyone.