I love when River and Rory are down in the tunel searching for the astronaut in series 6 and she says that "one day i will see the Doctor and he wont know who I am, and i think its gonna kill me" makes me cry every time 😭😭
Can I just say that David Bradley did an excellent job playing the First Doctor in Twice Upon a Christmas? Most people probably recognized his voice. He's also known as Argus Filch in the Harry Potter movies. Great actor.
He’s pretty good. I know a lot of people hate Twice Upon a Time for various reasons, but I give David Bradley a lot of credit. While the writers might have characterized the first Doctor incorrectly (mainly being more sexist), he did a good enough job
For me it was the arc with K-9. He was introduced in 1977 and even before 4 became 5, K-9's story was "closed." But to bring him back in 2010 and to pair him with the Sara Jane Adventures brought a continuation of one of the most loved (and comic relief) character in the franchise.
I totally agree he was a much beloved character as a small but powerful robot dog he became an intractable character in the Sara Jane series which ive only seen a few episodes and i wish they would bring him back in a new series about her adopted son and his friends which would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks and peace
I APSOLUTELY loved the River Song story arc!!!!!!!!!! From the very beginning in the library story until the end with the weird robot and the singing towers!!!!!!!! The fact THAT they spent years together brought it to a wonderful but sad ending!!!!!!!!!! Then it's mentioned in the weird episode about the Superman character( i wish they would bring him back) that he's really sad about THAT!!!!!! You forgot to mention the Captain Jack/ Face OF Bow storyline which i really loved!!!!!!!!!!! Peace ✌
Credit to Alex Kingston in that very first appearance for being so emotional about realizing it would be the last time she met The Doctor whilst Tennant is so nonchelant about it all because he doesn't even know who she is.
Honestly, the whole silence and trenzalore arc it's gotta be one of my favorite story arcs within the new era. Certainly better than the timeless children
A "payoff" I wanted to see, but doesn't really make sense (then again...), is finding out that Wilfred Mott (Bernard Cribbins) had previously traveled with The Doctor (Peter Cushing) as a policeman named Tom Campbell (Bernard Cribbins (1966)). As always thank you so very much for the video. I'd also love to see the Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee - my personal favorite) return, played by Sean Pertwee.
I've always just assumed, in my head anyways, that it is canon. Mostly because of Wilfreds line on entering the Tardis. "I thought it would be cleaner". To me that says that somehow he remembers on a subconscious level his travels as Tom with The Doctor (Cushing) because that Tardis was quite clean inside. Even the clutter on the tables was quite clean and set dressing "organized".
One of the most interesting things in the lore or histrory is that in the very first episode Susan says she came up with the name Tardis. After the Time Lords debut, all of Gallifrdy calls the capsules Tardis. Was Susan lying or made to be a lie retroactively or did she somehow influence Time Lord history..?
I love how in the Husbands of River Song, when the Doctor meets River and she doesn't know who he is, he states, 'well I've had a haircut, and got a new suit' - something she referenced in Silence in the Library (You turned up on my doorstep with a haircut and a new suit, and took me to Darillium...")
I want to know more about Susan. Who she is, does she become a traveler after The Dalek Invasion of Earth? Will she come back as a new regeneration or does she simply die with David?
5:36 I'm not sure The Doctor is 'just a friend' to anyone, even if there aren't any romantic feelings involved. I mean, we are talking about The Doctor here, who changes people's lives forever when they travel the universe together.
Out of all the problems with the timeless child, jo Martin is suppose to be a pre hartnell doctor, why is her tardis a police box. It does not make sense, it should change to accommodate its surroundings, the doctor even mentioned this in the first story. I'm sorry some of you might be on with this but I see it as poor writing by a man who didn't do his homework on the show
"The Next Doctor" shows how a person who is not the Doctor can believe he is. Perhaps Jo Martin's Doctor is the same? The information about the Doctor's past pre-Hartnell comes from the Master, who is not known for always telling the truth.
@@johnlochness This is one of my biggest gripes about the Timeless Child. I don't hate the idea entirely but it just screws up too many big plots that came before. One could potentially argue that 11 didn't know he could regenerate again but I think that's something he'd be able to feel.
The Atmos system started right from Partners in Crime and lasted as a theme until UNIT got to the sontarons in that ep where Donna ends up on the Sontaron ship
What about the chamæleon circuit ? It was first discovered broken when the Doctor left Totters Lane in the first episode, and somewhat fixed by the Sixth Doctor when he travelled with Peri.
The episodes leading up to The Doctor (Capaldi) in the never ending prison, dying millions of times, reincarnated, and punching through a diamond wall all while reciting a poem about a bird. The identity of the warrior of two races or something.....? (I forget exactly...)
Am not current with Timeless Child arc, but posit ReJenny is still a parent to Susan Foreman, and thus Susan is granddaughter to The Doctor, if hypothetical Child (Chad, Frank, Larry?) hadn't become the entity known as The Doctor until Hartnell's time. "One" may have been a different person/entity before assuming the mantle of The Doctor, though is still my headcanon the universe was a rather boring place until "The Doctor" took up the title and everybody and everything vied for control over realities. Maybe it was a not-baby Susan telling tales of ReJenny's adventures which inspired Timeless to become The Doctor after some kind of mishap where the universe needed a healer, as Susan has memories of Gallifrey. Still say Tennant should portray ReJenny with Georgia Tenn as other parent, ReJenny even saying "Hello, Dad" to Ncuti as they would recognize The Parent-Clone-Self in any body. Much like with the Corneliuses and Constantines, reality was a much different place before characters took up the titles of The Doctor and The Master.
There are a lot of pay offs in old who too. Return trips to Peledon, the Dalek timeline (including a couple of civil wars), multiple encounters with UNIT down through the years, etc.... Also there are a more big ones in New Who, like why the 12th Doctor looks the way they do.
I see the Morbius Doctors, pre-Hartnell, as being MORBIUS' previous lives, not the Doctor's. I've seen that serial many times, it's one of my favorites. BTW, the Lord President of Gallifrey told a technician in "The Three Doctors" to show him the Doctor's earliest incarnation, and it's William Hartnell. QED.
A lot of these are only one season long, the intro had an example that spanned over 25 years. "Longest" pay-off isn't accurate, even the "Knocks four times" prophecy only happened at the beginning of that season of specials, applying it to already reoccurring characters isn't setting it up from their introduction. I also maintain that the faces seen in The Brain of Morbius are Morbius's previous faces, whenever this debate comes up people conveniently seem to overlook that it was a battle between the two characters and that Morbius was also a Timelord so why would we only see the Doctor's?
"(The Timeless Child) is part of canon now". Only as much as the Doctor being half human is part of canon. Those two parts of canon are irreconcilable. Either one is incorrect or they are both incorrect. Either the Doctor is half human (on his mother's side), or a mysterious alien which was found, like Odo in Deep Space Nine, or he's just a Gallifreyan who rebelled against the oppressive and restrictive Time Lords. I think most people would prefer the "just a guy" option
Ah but remember rule no. 1 - the Doctor lies. In my head canon it's explained by the new regeneration still "cooking", maybe absorbing traits from the immediate landscape (ie the humans) and also trying to make himself less "fully alien" to calm the fears of those around him. Works for me.
I agree with the first comment. Rule #1. It's really hard to totally take anything the doctor says as Canon until it's explained or shown. Plus, the movie has only really been considered Canonical in regards to McCoy into McGan and then until the war doctor. Everything else regarding the movie seems to be ignored.
I likes how, in the comic book run The Forgotten, the 7th Doctor makes a comment to someone about how he once lied about being half human. I always hated that part of the TV movie (well, I hated most of it, but that one thing in particular).
I have the most horrible feeling that Chibnall is gonna pull a "bury your gays" on us in the Centenary episode where basically we get some kind of reciprocal action or dialogue between the Doctor and Yas or something that shows they both had feeling like a kiss or a love confession or something only for Yas to then be killed. It's a trope that is way too common and we are kind of done with it at this point. this is why I would have preferred Yas's queerness being established form the start like how we had with Bill (even though Bill was a bury your gays as well) I either want like a satisfying pay off for Yas's feeling or for Yas to just leave of her own accord and not be killed off.
How was Bill “bury your gays”? She was literally saved and made immortal by her girlfriend lmfao. You do realise that characters being killed off doesn’t always have anything to do with sexuality or race or anything right? Fucking hell, let characters be killed off 😂 it’s a tv show
I fully agree with your comment on Yas! Honestly, when the moment they had in the sea devils Easter episode happened, I couldn't roll my eyes harder! With only one episode left, there's no way this will be fleshed out enough. Bill however, I like her ending, and she does get the girl! Side note, while I never want River to have another ending, because I love the Husband's of River Song, I would have waaaay rather they bought her back as the Doctors wife with Jodie than be all wishy washy with Yas, because we know River would love the Doctor regardless!
Found you found you. We can keep digging further or you can stop shitting on the Whovians. Those I know can go deeper if you agress Never fck with a Loon that supports the LBGT. You wanna hear about burying geys and n's. Contact me. Dr who has always been for the cause Chibnell shit on it.
This LGBT angle is a bit awkward when one considers that the Doctor is multi-gender. Would Rose Tyler love 13 just as much as 9 or 10, for instance, or Yaz love 12 or upcoming 14? Or the Prime Doctor? Or would 12's companion (pre-friend) Bill have felt attraction to 13 as well? Or to be honest, if one goes to the extreme, and accepts the canon that the Doctor is not only humanoid but can be any species? Loving boggles the mind at this point.
This is yet another reason they need to stop romaning The Doctors companitons. One of the most popular New Who seiries is Doctor/Donna which strangely was the only one inwhich their companion didn't pine after them.
With regards to the time war, it's payoff from Genesis of the daleks when the 4th Doctor was sent back in time to evert the creation of the daleks which sparked the dalek hatred of the Timelords. The possibility of the time war was hinted at I the Peter Davison story Resserection of the Daleks when we learn of a Dalek plan to infiltrate and overthrow Gallifrey .
Is this MY Doctor ???❣️🤩. If so, I miss you and River soooo much! Hope y’all can be back soon, even as movie sequels in: More adventures of the Eleventh Doctor ❣️ Hopefully written by Moffat and directed by Guy Ritchie! 🤗
@@RaggedyDoctor11 👏👏👏👏👏🤩 looking forward to seeing you all soon kiss kiss ❣️. I can also see you as Sherlock Holmes with Jude Law in movies directed by Guy Ritchie! Awesome 😎
I never understood the logic of sending Clara off with Me. I mean, the logic of her not staying with The Doctor was that she's immortal now, and two immortals together is not a good idea... so they send her off with another immortal? Because that's a brilliant idea and totally sound logic..?
Plus it just negates her story line of increasingly risky behavior because she feels invincible. It just reinforced that attitude and negated the conclusion to all that.
I don’t know about immortal, she is dead and she would have to die again, and it was a prophecy related to Clara and the doctor specifically too? So another immortal wouldn’t lead to the same consequences? Idk
I'm surprised that with all of the new info on unlimited regenerations, that the BBC doesn't do a kids series with a very young Doctor Who in preteen form. Sort of like the Sarah Jane series but with the preteen Doctor instead. It could even be a sort of "training mission" from his teachers on Gallifrey, to send him on not quite deadly missions into the universe to train to become a full "Time Police" type "Time Lord" before the war with the Daleks. He would have to gather a band of companions of different species as his helpers along the way so as to learn to deal with other races and cultures. Even in animated form, this could be a fun show. The Doctor wasn't always an adult and would have had some kind of training, so it could make for a very interesting viewing. Even the Master could become involved, as his best "friendly enemy".
Every single GODSBEDAMNED time people bring up the “Morbius Doctors,” I have to say it. *MORBIUS WAS A TIMELORD ON HIS LAST LIFE!!! THOSE OTHER FACES WE SAW WERE HIS, NOT THE DOCTOR’S!!!!*
How can you talk about the Time War without mentioning "Dalek" when we first learn, so dramatically, that the Doctor himself was the one who made the destruction of both the Daleks and the Time Lords *happen*? That moment was *awesome*!
I’m agreeing to everything except the wall doctor, I think and a lot of my friends do the world doctor was only putting because the ninth doctor wouldn’t return to be the wall doctor, it’s like Jack, it’s theorised that Jack was going to have his head cut off and become one of the headless ones that would’ve been a full circle, showing how he became the face of bow
Maybe I'm the only dense one in the room, but isn't River Song's real payoff the discovery of her parentage? That's one of the three best episodes in the entire run of the show.
small one: In Father's Day when Rose and the Doctor are standing by watching Pete, there is a poster on the wall that says "Energize" advertising an energy drink like the one that Pete later develops in the alternate reality
Regarding The Timeless Child and its plot holes. 11 not knowing about the 13 limit not applying and why Jo Martin had a Police Box Tardis. Strap in. So. My theory is admittedly a bit.... Shakey, shall we say? But i kinda like it. So concerning the 13 Regens. If they can block out the knowledge of entire sets of lives, blocking their knowledge on regen limits should be right along with that tech. They see every other Gallifreian with 13 and because they know nothing else assume its normal. Now the Police box thing kinda rides on the Semi-sentience of the Tardis itself. Pre-Hartnell Doctors (PHD from here on. Yay puns) have obviously met our Doc at least once with Jo. I can imagine its happened before. In The 50th we see that The Moment van take forms based on important figures from their timeline (though we only see Rose/Bad Wolf) With the way the Tardis talks to 11 when temporarily a woman we see how she cares for them and talks about always taking him where he needs to be. If The Tardis' sentience is even remotely like The Moment (which since both are Time Lord tech it could be easily assumed so) then the fact PHD Jo has a Police Box could very well have been done to Help 13 come to the realization, the Tardis picked the form that Jo might not have wanted, but 13 NEEDED. Just like in their travels. PHEW. I think im done. Thats my theory
When I saw the Morbius serial, I thought it was more or less obvious that those "Morbius Doctor's" were not The Doctor's previous incarnations, but Morbius's previous incarnations. And something always bothered me about the Timeless Child arc. And it's not what many others have issues with. My issue is the fact that the Episode was called "The Timeless Children". If there was only one "timeless child", then why did the episode name say "children", as in plural?
@@AltonV I still think that it doesn't work properly grammatically. I suppose that means we can add bad grammar to the list of problems with Chris Chibnall.
@@AltonV That's not how it works. You can say there are multiple Doctors, because those are referring to personalities.. But if a child has Multiple Personality Disorder, body claims that it's multiple children It's still one child. With the Doctor, there are multiple Doctors, but just one Timelord. Multiple regenerations doesn't make it multiple children. If I had the chance to become Show Runner for Doctor Who, I'd take advantage of that bad grammar and say that there was more than one child. After all, the Doctor wasn't the only child there. And I could do this, and Chibnall would have no say over it, because it's his fault for allowing such vagueness, and if he claims that he does have authority, that'd make him a hypocrite, since the whole Timeless Child premise was him misinterpreting Morbius's former lives as the Doctor's former lives. And it's not hard to figure out that that's the case. Why would Morbius have known about the Doctor's former lives, and during that mind battle, not once referred to his own former lives? Bad grammar is still bad grammar. And Chibnall doesn't have the excuse of misinterpreting bad grammar.
I would argue that the very end of the Peter Capaldi/River Song Christmas episode was a delightful present ... How long is a night on derilium? 24 years. For the only time in their relationship, they actually spent time together. Which for some of us was the payoff we'd been waiting for. And we knew that giving her the sonic screwdriver would save her in the Library. So not that devastating.
Series 4 didn’t just thread together arcs from series 4, journeys end and end of time pulled arcs from torchwood, Sarah Jane, series 1, series 3, runaway bride and voyage of the damned respectively
You wanna see the saddest thing? Watch the whole Amy&Rory ark and the look up the cut story boarded and narrated scene called P. S. which includes Rory's dad Brian. That broke me.
In a Sylvester McCoy serial we learn near the end of the universe humans evolved into vampire-like creatures. With David Tennant and the return of The Master it's clarified it's not all humans but does verify that the vampiric-like creatures do exist at the end of the universe.
@@danthemeegs8751 go back and watch the prophecy, and then watch the timeless child episodes. The Hybrid is fulfilled in the pairing of Timelord/Cyberman (and specifically, the Master/Cyberium). It's just resolved with Chibnall's characteristic quiet resolution style.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I highly doubt that was Chibnall's intention, and Moffat clearly wanted to leave it ambiguous. The Series 12 Master does fit, but it's just head canon really. I like the idea of the Hybrid not actually existing, just this old myth that scared the Time Lords
@@danthemeegs8751 it's not headcanon - the prophecy of the Hybrid isn't fulfilled in season 10, but it is fulfilled in season 12. Whether it was Chibnall's intention of not might be debatable, but given that the timeless child arc also completes the Cartmel Master Plan arc three decades later as well as tying up the Baker era Morbius storyline... I'm going to believe Chibnall did it fully deliberately.
Since this video was made the largest time for a Doctor Who payoff has been extended hugely with Ian Chesterton finally appearing again 57 years after we last saw him!
How long is the story arc of finding out that the Master went insane when he and Doctor Who were children until it's revealed the constant banging in the Masters' head that drives him insane is the sound of Time Lord heart beats channeled into him by the Time Lord president.
You missed the master insanity. It was a mystery why was such a megalomania until the end of time explained that rassalon sent back his heartbeat thru the untempered scysm to the moment the master looked in
Just saying the whole thing with 13 and yaz did come from nothing. Some people just really wanted to see 13 and yaz together which was then noticed and made by the time of eve of daleks(or earlier in the same series) so in real life technically there was nothing. They weren’t planning on yaz being in love with the doctor so anything before season 13 was on accident
Announcing The Doctor as a lesbian just 1 episode before regenerating to a male Doctor is just ridiculous. Earlier or not at all... just another Chibnall mess-up.
Yes the last moments with River and 12 were saddening, but we knew the inevitable was coming. While 24 years is a bit cheesy, the writing ensured that it was bittersweet
It's amazing the number of people who are upset that the video doesn't address Bernard Cribbins' death and even suggests he will be back. It took me all of five seconds to learn that he passed away two days AFTER the video was published. WhoCulture doesn't actually have a time machine, at least not a working one.
I can only imagine this video was made a while ago and just posted, Bernard Cribbins passed away earlier this year so i doubt we will be seeing Wilf Again.
Okay, this could just be my old brain not remembering correctly - what about the face of Boe as one of the longest payoffs? I believe TFOB first appeared during Baker's tenure as the Doctor (maybe just the old memory I mentioned) and yet we don't find out who the face of Boe is until #10 comes along. Jack Harkness being TFOB is also a huge reveal. Cheers....
Wow. Chibnall still has a final episode to try and bury the franchise he gleefully murdered. His name is definitely up there together with dumb and dumber.
InnFahr media here. 2 points. The Timeless Child has a typical narrative errors of Chris Chibnall. You can't have River Song and the Timeless Child. The Timeless Child story claims the source of regeneration power comes from the Timeless child. Chibnall never paid attention otherwise he would know that Dr River Songs entire back Story depends on the true source of regeneration power, the Time Vortex. Hér parents were human yet she had time lord power. Either you have River Song or the Timeless Child. You can't have both
@@danthemeegs8751 In Galifrey council they ask where the doctor is and the reply was he is with the moment. Something along those lines. 50th anniversary fits perfectly into the timeline.
Yeh sorry. Yaz fancying the doctor is sooooo weakly done but it just about works as you can tell she does fancy her. But chibnall making the Doctor fancy Yaz back has come COMPLETELY from nowhere. She spends the majority of series 11, 12 and 13 actively pushing her companions away, being distant AF and not communicating with anybody. It’s never even clear if any of the trio even actually like the Doctor or she even likes them back or wants them there. They have no moments of bonding at all, they’re just there. So for 13 to turn around and be like ‘yeh I fancy you too wish I could stay with you forever’ is so bloody unearned. She’s got more chemistry with the TARDIS
what they did with clara pissed me of the much and made definitely no sense. clara was like rose, she was awesome, he was meant for the doctor, a woman he could've come to love basically. and until they actually spelled it out the doctor never did go too far with her. i mean i can't see him doing more risky stuff for her as he did for rose or donna. so what the hell people are telling? and then, suddenly, some time lord asshole demands claras death?! hello? and since when can we demand a persons death? isn't time meant to be protected and not to be bent in order to prevent disasters from happening that would've never happened if you just back the fuck off?! the shit only started when they killed clara. so of course the doctor would be pissed off, because he already lost too many comrades and because clara is special and because he didn't even have a particular choice because he was trapped in some weird disk where he dies one trillions times. btw, what a dick move. good for him that he lost that memory. this is one of my most skipped episodes because this is no benefit for a story or character developing it's just torture. for both me and the doctor i still believe that he would've accepted claras death under other circumstances. i mean what of a half assed death is this? this is no sacrifice for the love she didn't get with the one she loved, she didn't lost her memories and married some black guy and she didn't got to be with a clone version. Every who companion eventuall parts with him but they deserve happyness, and until that point EVERY who companion found happyness. abusing the doctor-companion relationship to turn him into an evil monster is the most evil moment in the who history i think. at least till that point... the whole jody whittacker plot is just an evil nightmare for me.
Please let's not throw all the spoilers out in what's meant to be an historic video. Many of us had no idea about the thing you mentioned for the next series, and imagine how amazing it would have been for us to experience it going in blind.....but now we can't. How great would it have been if they kept the Jack surprise better for the previous season? Let's try to do that please. Please try to tag any video that's speciation about an upcoming season, or confirmed happenings in an upcoming season. I love watching your videos... Steaks are getting high, and it's time to make every word count.
As a member of the lgbtq community I can not possibly agree that the Yaz-Doctor love story arc was remotely well-handled, or even realistic. It was a big turn-off.
the four knocks is the most heartbeakeing scene in new who R.I.P wilfred
agreed!
But it's not tho is it you melt, stop using people dying to beg for likes
I lpve 12th calling back "its always 4 knocks"
I often find myself tapping four times when I’m focused on something else.
I love when River and Rory are down in the tunel searching for the astronaut in series 6 and she says that "one day i will see the Doctor and he wont know who I am, and i think its gonna kill me" makes me cry every time 😭😭
Can I just say that David Bradley did an excellent job playing the First Doctor in Twice Upon a Christmas? Most people probably recognized his voice. He's also known as Argus Filch in the Harry Potter movies. Great actor.
An obvious choice for the role however, as he played Hartnell in "An Adventure in Space and Time"
He also appeared in the series six episode 'Dinosaurs on a Spaceship' as a businessman named Solomon.
He’s pretty good. I know a lot of people hate Twice Upon a Time for various reasons, but I give David Bradley a lot of credit. While the writers might have characterized the first Doctor incorrectly (mainly being more sexist), he did a good enough job
For me it was the arc with K-9. He was introduced in 1977 and even before 4 became 5, K-9's story was "closed." But to bring him back in 2010 and to pair him with the Sara Jane Adventures brought a continuation of one of the most loved (and comic relief) character in the franchise.
That's a good one! K9 doesn't get the respect he deserves imo
I totally agree he was a much beloved character as a small but powerful robot dog he became an intractable character in the Sara Jane series which ive only seen a few episodes and i wish they would bring him back in a new series about her adopted son and his friends which would be AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!! Thanks and peace
I liked the Queen Elizabeth I payoff from 2007-2013
yeah, 10 finally found out why Elizabeth hated him
I APSOLUTELY loved the River Song story arc!!!!!!!!!! From the very beginning in the library story until the end with the weird robot and the singing towers!!!!!!!! The fact THAT they spent years together brought it to a wonderful but sad ending!!!!!!!!!! Then it's mentioned in the weird episode about the Superman character( i wish they would bring him back) that he's really sad about THAT!!!!!! You forgot to mention the Captain Jack/ Face OF Bow storyline which i really loved!!!!!!!!!!! Peace ✌
Credit to Alex Kingston in that very first appearance for being so emotional about realizing it would be the last time she met The Doctor whilst Tennant is so nonchelant about it all because he doesn't even know who she is.
Honestly, the whole silence and trenzalore arc it's gotta be one of my favorite story arcs within the new era.
Certainly better than the timeless children
A "payoff" I wanted to see, but doesn't really make sense (then again...), is finding out that Wilfred Mott (Bernard Cribbins) had previously traveled with The Doctor (Peter Cushing) as a policeman named Tom Campbell (Bernard Cribbins (1966)).
As always thank you so very much for the video.
I'd also love to see the Third Doctor (Jon Pertwee - my personal favorite) return, played by Sean Pertwee.
Heh. Cushing and Tom were my First Doctor and companion.
My first canon story was Pertwee’s Inferno.
That’s amazing head canon even if it’s not actually true!
We can only assume some sort of "witness protection" situation where Tom Campbell had to change his name and start a brand new life.
I've always just assumed, in my head anyways, that it is canon. Mostly because of Wilfreds line on entering the Tardis. "I thought it would be cleaner". To me that says that somehow he remembers on a subconscious level his travels as Tom with The Doctor (Cushing) because that Tardis was quite clean inside. Even the clutter on the tables was quite clean and set dressing "organized".
@@2remik Only he isnt the The Doctor, but Doctor Who a human inventor.
One of the most interesting things in the lore or histrory is that in the very first episode Susan says she came up with the name Tardis. After the Time Lords debut, all of Gallifrdy calls the capsules Tardis. Was Susan lying or made to be a lie retroactively or did she somehow influence Time Lord history..?
"histrory"?
Nothing interesting about that whatsoever
I love how in the Husbands of River Song, when the Doctor meets River and she doesn't know who he is, he states, 'well I've had a haircut, and got a new suit' - something she referenced in Silence in the Library (You turned up on my doorstep with a haircut and a new suit, and took me to Darillium...")
I want to know more about Susan. Who she is, does she become a traveler after The Dalek Invasion of Earth? Will she come back as a new regeneration or does she simply die with David?
5:36 I'm not sure The Doctor is 'just a friend' to anyone, even if there aren't any romantic feelings involved. I mean, we are talking about The Doctor here, who changes people's lives forever when they travel the universe together.
Out of all the problems with the timeless child, jo Martin is suppose to be a pre hartnell doctor, why is her tardis a police box. It does not make sense, it should change to accommodate its surroundings, the doctor even mentioned this in the first story. I'm sorry some of you might be on with this but I see it as poor writing by a man who didn't do his homework on the show
And the funniest of all... Why would he steal the EXACT SAME TARDIS? Did Time Lord Clara know?
@@milosradmilac8911 Clara tells the doctor which TARDIS to steal when she gets scattered, I still agree with the police box issue though
"The Next Doctor" shows how a person who is not the Doctor can believe he is. Perhaps Jo Martin's Doctor is the same? The information about the Doctor's past pre-Hartnell comes from the Master, who is not known for always telling the truth.
It also screws up the 13 regenerations idea in The Time Of The Doctor.
@@johnlochness This is one of my biggest gripes about the Timeless Child. I don't hate the idea entirely but it just screws up too many big plots that came before. One could potentially argue that 11 didn't know he could regenerate again but I think that's something he'd be able to feel.
The Atmos system started right from Partners in Crime and lasted as a theme until UNIT got to the sontarons in that ep where Donna ends up on the Sontaron ship
What about the chamæleon circuit ? It was first discovered broken when the Doctor left Totters Lane in the first episode, and somewhat fixed by the Sixth Doctor when he travelled with Peri.
I really do love 11 mentioning the device he got from the master. Its quick and not trying to overexplain about it.
The late bernard cribbins RIP Wilfred
Exactly! Nobody has been mentioning this and it's heartbreaking.
@@y_fam_goeglyd so true 👍🏻
You guys definitely need to do a list of the worst things The Master has done.
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The episodes leading up to The Doctor (Capaldi) in the never ending prison, dying millions of times, reincarnated, and punching through a diamond wall all while reciting a poem about a bird.
The identity of the warrior of two races or something.....? (I forget exactly...)
Am not current with Timeless Child arc, but posit ReJenny is still a parent to Susan Foreman, and thus Susan is granddaughter to The Doctor, if hypothetical Child (Chad, Frank, Larry?) hadn't become the entity known as The Doctor until Hartnell's time. "One" may have been a different person/entity before assuming the mantle of The Doctor, though is still my headcanon the universe was a rather boring place until "The Doctor" took up the title and everybody and everything vied for control over realities. Maybe it was a not-baby Susan telling tales of ReJenny's adventures which inspired Timeless to become The Doctor after some kind of mishap where the universe needed a healer, as Susan has memories of Gallifrey. Still say Tennant should portray ReJenny with Georgia Tenn as other parent, ReJenny even saying "Hello, Dad" to Ncuti as they would recognize The Parent-Clone-Self in any body. Much like with the Corneliuses and Constantines, reality was a much different place before characters took up the titles of The Doctor and The Master.
The thing between yaz and 13th could be good. But they have 0 chemistry
There are a lot of pay offs in old who too. Return trips to Peledon, the Dalek timeline (including a couple of civil wars), multiple encounters with UNIT down through the years, etc.... Also there are a more big ones in New Who, like why the 12th Doctor looks the way they do.
Alpha Centauri popping up a few years back in modern Who, as well!
@@brainlock72 Wasn’t Alpha Centauri also voiced by the same actress too?
@@danthemeegs8751 no idea?
I see the Morbius Doctors, pre-Hartnell, as being MORBIUS' previous lives, not the Doctor's. I've seen that serial many times, it's one of my favorites. BTW, the Lord President of Gallifrey told a technician in "The Three Doctors" to show him the Doctor's earliest incarnation, and it's William Hartnell. QED.
same here
Yes, that’s makes so much more sense.
I think the writers intended to imply that the Morbius Doctors were previous incarnations of the Doctor
@@danthemeegs8751 Based on what?
I see them as lies to overwhelm the Doctor's adversary in that serial.
A lot of these are only one season long, the intro had an example that spanned over 25 years. "Longest" pay-off isn't accurate, even the "Knocks four times" prophecy only happened at the beginning of that season of specials, applying it to already reoccurring characters isn't setting it up from their introduction.
I also maintain that the faces seen in The Brain of Morbius are Morbius's previous faces, whenever this debate comes up people conveniently seem to overlook that it was a battle between the two characters and that Morbius was also a Timelord so why would we only see the Doctor's?
RIP Bernard Cribbins
5:15 Honestly, I thought Yaz's reaction was quite reasonable, especially in response to The Doctor's less normal answer.
Will and Simon did a Wonderful job, And Ellie Littlechild is just a Force of Nature in here Ethereally Enticing and Entertaining Presentation.
"(The Timeless Child) is part of canon now". Only as much as the Doctor being half human is part of canon.
Those two parts of canon are irreconcilable. Either one is incorrect or they are both incorrect. Either the Doctor is half human (on his mother's side), or a mysterious alien which was found, like Odo in Deep Space Nine, or he's just a Gallifreyan who rebelled against the oppressive and restrictive Time Lords.
I think most people would prefer the "just a guy" option
Ah but remember rule no. 1 - the Doctor lies. In my head canon it's explained by the new regeneration still "cooking", maybe absorbing traits from the immediate landscape (ie the humans) and also trying to make himself less "fully alien" to calm the fears of those around him. Works for me.
I agree with the first comment. Rule #1. It's really hard to totally take anything the doctor says as Canon until it's explained or shown. Plus, the movie has only really been considered Canonical in regards to McCoy into McGan and then until the war doctor. Everything else regarding the movie seems to be ignored.
Just my opinion but I don't think Dr who has canon or non canon it's just Dr who no matter if it's good or bad writing
I likes how, in the comic book run The Forgotten, the 7th Doctor makes a comment to someone about how he once lied about being half human. I always hated that part of the TV movie (well, I hated most of it, but that one thing in particular).
RIP Bernard Cribbins aka Wilfred Mott
I have the most horrible feeling that Chibnall is gonna pull a "bury your gays" on us in the Centenary episode where basically we get some kind of reciprocal action or dialogue between the Doctor and Yas or something that shows they both had feeling like a kiss or a love confession or something only for Yas to then be killed. It's a trope that is way too common and we are kind of done with it at this point. this is why I would have preferred Yas's queerness being established form the start like how we had with Bill (even though Bill was a bury your gays as well) I either want like a satisfying pay off for Yas's feeling or for Yas to just leave of her own accord and not be killed off.
How was Bill “bury your gays”? She was literally saved and made immortal by her girlfriend lmfao.
You do realise that characters being killed off doesn’t always have anything to do with sexuality or race or anything right? Fucking hell, let characters be killed off 😂 it’s a tv show
Bill left with the woman of her dreams
I fully agree with your comment on Yas! Honestly, when the moment they had in the sea devils Easter episode happened, I couldn't roll my eyes harder! With only one episode left, there's no way this will be fleshed out enough.
Bill however, I like her ending, and she does get the girl!
Side note, while I never want River to have another ending, because I love the Husband's of River Song, I would have waaaay rather they bought her back as the Doctors wife with Jodie than be all wishy washy with Yas, because we know River would love the Doctor regardless!
Found you found you. We can keep digging further or you can stop shitting on the Whovians. Those I know can go deeper if you agress Never fck with a Loon that supports the LBGT. You wanna hear about burying geys and n's. Contact me. Dr who has always been for the cause Chibnell shit on it.
Judge me on my status my sexuality what am I. Stop fucking with who. Same goes to the channel. Brits execute chib for disgracing a series.
Arguably the time war began in "Genesis of the Daleks", in 1975! Now how long is that payoff?
Umm... a very long time!
This LGBT angle is a bit awkward when one considers that the Doctor is multi-gender. Would Rose Tyler love 13 just as much as 9 or 10, for instance, or Yaz love 12 or upcoming 14? Or the Prime Doctor? Or would 12's companion (pre-friend) Bill have felt attraction to 13 as well? Or to be honest, if one goes to the extreme, and accepts the canon that the Doctor is not only humanoid but can be any species? Loving boggles the mind at this point.
This is yet another reason they need to stop romaning The Doctors companitons. One of the most popular New Who seiries is Doctor/Donna which strangely was the only one inwhich their companion didn't pine after them.
@@lordtelion capaldi and pearl
@@aaronking5640 ngl totally forgot bill potts.
@tobylord I agree. Although because the companions are (usually) human, human emotions come into play and therefore some amount of pining will happen.
This is why I prefer River. She loves the Doctor in all of his bodies, they're all the same person to her.
With regards to the time war, it's payoff from Genesis of the daleks when the 4th Doctor was sent back in time to evert the creation of the daleks which sparked the dalek hatred of the Timelords. The possibility of the time war was hinted at I the Peter Davison story Resserection of the Daleks when we learn of a Dalek plan to infiltrate and overthrow Gallifrey .
It sure would’ve been more fun if I was the Doctor who spent 24 years with River on Darillium… if you know what I mean ;)
Eugh
Is this MY Doctor ???❣️🤩. If so, I miss you and River soooo much! Hope y’all can be back soon, even as movie sequels in: More adventures of the Eleventh Doctor ❣️ Hopefully written by Moffat and directed by Guy Ritchie! 🤗
Sounds like a Big Finish what-if. We must make it happen!
@@delladearest2511 I’ll be back, like the fez-wearing Terminator!
@@RaggedyDoctor11 👏👏👏👏👏🤩 looking forward to seeing you all soon kiss kiss ❣️. I can also see you as Sherlock Holmes with Jude Law in movies directed by Guy Ritchie! Awesome 😎
I never understood the logic of sending Clara off with Me. I mean, the logic of her not staying with The Doctor was that she's immortal now, and two immortals together is not a good idea... so they send her off with another immortal? Because that's a brilliant idea and totally sound logic..?
Plus it just negates her story line of increasingly risky behavior because she feels invincible. It just reinforced that attitude and negated the conclusion to all that.
I don’t know about immortal, she is dead and she would have to die again, and it was a prophecy related to Clara and the doctor specifically too? So another immortal wouldn’t lead to the same consequences? Idk
I'm surprised that with all of the new info on unlimited regenerations, that the BBC doesn't do a kids series with a very young Doctor Who in preteen form. Sort of like the Sarah Jane series but with the preteen Doctor instead. It could even be a sort of "training mission" from his teachers on Gallifrey, to send him on not quite deadly missions into the universe to train to become a full "Time Police" type "Time Lord" before the war with the Daleks. He would have to gather a band of companions of different species as his helpers along the way so as to learn to deal with other races and cultures. Even in animated form, this could be a fun show. The Doctor wasn't always an adult and would have had some kind of training, so it could make for a very interesting viewing. Even the Master could become involved, as his best "friendly enemy".
I wouldn’t trust the BBC to do a show like this. Now maybe if Big Finish could do a series of audio stories based on this I might be on board!
Every single GODSBEDAMNED time people bring up the “Morbius Doctors,” I have to say it. *MORBIUS WAS A TIMELORD ON HIS LAST LIFE!!! THOSE OTHER FACES WE SAW WERE HIS, NOT THE DOCTOR’S!!!!*
Not according to the production team at the time.
Yaz was quite obviously not always in love with the Doctor. In fact it’s quite clear that early in she was supposed to get with Ryan.
How can you talk about the Time War without mentioning "Dalek" when we first learn, so dramatically, that the Doctor himself was the one who made the destruction of both the Daleks and the Time Lords *happen*? That moment was *awesome*!
I’m agreeing to everything except the wall doctor, I think and a lot of my friends do the world doctor was only putting because the ninth doctor wouldn’t return to be the wall doctor, it’s like Jack, it’s theorised that Jack was going to have his head cut off and become one of the headless ones that would’ve been a full circle, showing how he became the face of bow
I hope David Tennant is The Metacrisis Tenth Doctor for the 60th Anniversary
But then who does Jodie regenerate into?
@@danthemeegs8751 well since Ncuti Gatwa has been confirmed to be taking over from Jodie Whittaker 3 months ago. Possibly him
@@benmiller3252 that definitely doesn't seem to be the case
I hope Tennant stays forever
Maybe I'm the only dense one in the room, but isn't River Song's real payoff the discovery of her parentage? That's one of the three best episodes in the entire run of the show.
small one: In Father's Day when Rose and the Doctor are standing by watching Pete, there is a poster on the wall that says "Energize" advertising an energy drink like the one that Pete later develops in the alternate reality
Good luck for 100k, its close now!
Thank you!
Regarding The Timeless Child and its plot holes.
11 not knowing about the 13 limit not applying and why Jo Martin had a Police Box Tardis. Strap in.
So. My theory is admittedly a bit.... Shakey, shall we say? But i kinda like it.
So concerning the 13 Regens. If they can block out the knowledge of entire sets of lives, blocking their knowledge on regen limits should be right along with that tech. They see every other Gallifreian with 13 and because they know nothing else assume its normal.
Now the Police box thing kinda rides on the Semi-sentience of the Tardis itself. Pre-Hartnell Doctors (PHD from here on. Yay puns) have obviously met our Doc at least once with Jo. I can imagine its happened before.
In The 50th we see that The Moment van take forms based on important figures from their timeline (though we only see Rose/Bad Wolf)
With the way the Tardis talks to 11 when temporarily a woman we see how she cares for them and talks about always taking him where he needs to be.
If The Tardis' sentience is even remotely like The Moment (which since both are Time Lord tech it could be easily assumed so) then the fact PHD Jo has a Police Box could very well have been done to Help 13 come to the realization, the Tardis picked the form that Jo might not have wanted, but 13 NEEDED. Just like in their travels.
PHEW. I think im done. Thats my theory
When I saw the Morbius serial, I thought it was more or less obvious that those "Morbius Doctor's" were not The Doctor's previous incarnations, but Morbius's previous incarnations. And something always bothered me about the Timeless Child arc. And it's not what many others have issues with. My issue is the fact that the Episode was called "The Timeless Children". If there was only one "timeless child", then why did the episode name say "children", as in plural?
It's plural because it's several incarnations of the timeless child
@@AltonV I still think that it doesn't work properly grammatically.
I suppose that means we can add bad grammar to the list of problems with Chris Chibnall.
@@SmartAlec86 yes it does.
If it's more than one incarnation then it's plural
@@AltonV That's not how it works. You can say there are multiple Doctors, because those are referring to personalities.. But if a child has Multiple Personality Disorder, body claims that it's multiple children It's still one child. With the Doctor, there are multiple Doctors, but just one Timelord. Multiple regenerations doesn't make it multiple children.
If I had the chance to become Show Runner for Doctor Who, I'd take advantage of that bad grammar and say that there was more than one child. After all, the Doctor wasn't the only child there. And I could do this, and Chibnall would have no say over it, because it's his fault for allowing such vagueness, and if he claims that he does have authority, that'd make him a hypocrite, since the whole Timeless Child premise was him misinterpreting Morbius's former lives as the Doctor's former lives. And it's not hard to figure out that that's the case. Why would Morbius have known about the Doctor's former lives, and during that mind battle, not once referred to his own former lives?
Bad grammar is still bad grammar. And Chibnall doesn't have the excuse of misinterpreting bad grammar.
@@SmartAlec86 so children doesn't have personalities?
Coming back for Susan: *still waiting*
Susan an the first Doctor where together in the five doctors.
@@williamhollenbach1249 ok, but the DOCTOR NEVER RETURNED TO HER as he promised.
Better get on that while Carole is still around!
@@brainlock72 4 Words: Big Finish, 8th Doctor!
@@marionbaggins yeah but for the most part, big finish isn't canon unless directly referenced or happens differently in the show.
@@danyaelle1753 8th Doctor's is 1000% Canon because Night of the Doctor.
I would argue that the very end of the Peter Capaldi/River Song Christmas episode was a delightful present ... How long is a night on derilium? 24 years. For the only time in their relationship, they actually spent time together. Which for some of us was the payoff we'd been waiting for. And we knew that giving her the sonic screwdriver would save her in the Library. So not that devastating.
I think they should bring back angel Bob and have that as a long-running arc
Angel Bob is DEAD, deal with it
Series 4 didn’t just thread together arcs from series 4, journeys end and end of time pulled arcs from torchwood, Sarah Jane, series 1, series 3, runaway bride and voyage of the damned respectively
You wanna see the saddest thing? Watch the whole Amy&Rory ark and the look up the cut story boarded and narrated scene called P. S. which includes Rory's dad Brian. That broke me.
The biggest playoff: six and a half decades for the first cute Doctor
William Hartnell isn't a sex symbol to you?
Paul McGann wants to say hi
Matt Smith was the cute Doctor 😍
David Tennant was pretty cute too (esp when he'd wear the glasses)
In a Sylvester McCoy serial we learn near the end of the universe humans evolved into vampire-like creatures. With David Tennant and the return of The Master it's clarified it's not all humans but does verify that the vampiric-like creatures do exist at the end of the universe.
Thanks for the "Mary Sue" explanation - never heard it before! Clara DID become the doctor - she has her own Tardis and companion.
Oh God, the timeless child
I successfully resisted the urge to call "First"! Go me!
Great video - thanks!
The Timeless Child?
Yeah.
That never happened.
The season 10 arc of the Hybrid, which seems to resolve just before the end of Capaldi's run, but actually resolves in season 12.
I don't think it was ever resolved, it seems the intent was to leave it ambiguous
@@danthemeegs8751 go back and watch the prophecy, and then watch the timeless child episodes. The Hybrid is fulfilled in the pairing of Timelord/Cyberman (and specifically, the Master/Cyberium). It's just resolved with Chibnall's characteristic quiet resolution style.
@@MichaelJohnson-kq7qg I highly doubt that was Chibnall's intention, and Moffat clearly wanted to leave it ambiguous. The Series 12 Master does fit, but it's just head canon really. I like the idea of the Hybrid not actually existing, just this old myth that scared the Time Lords
@@danthemeegs8751 it's not headcanon - the prophecy of the Hybrid isn't fulfilled in season 10, but it is fulfilled in season 12. Whether it was Chibnall's intention of not might be debatable, but given that the timeless child arc also completes the Cartmel Master Plan arc three decades later as well as tying up the Baker era Morbius storyline... I'm going to believe Chibnall did it fully deliberately.
@@_MyNameIsAJ_ why would you think that? Both showrunners involved are famous for extreme arcs.
Since this video was made the largest time for a Doctor Who payoff has been extended hugely with Ian Chesterton finally appearing again 57 years after we last saw him!
How long is the story arc of finding out that the Master went insane when he and Doctor Who were children until it's revealed the constant banging in the Masters' head that drives him insane is the sound of Time Lord heart beats channeled into him by the Time Lord president.
Comment who you want to see most in the 60th
11 and Clara
I am a sucker for the fourth
Paul McGann
Matt Smith
Freaking finally: Donna’s back.
Also: Clara! 🥰
I think the timeless children is one of my favorite parts of 13's arc, it's cool to see that it had some classic Who precedent.
I never finished 11s doctor onwards, but I will cry my eyes out to Rivers story
My favorite payoff is the 12th doctor saluting the cyber Brigadier
You missed the master insanity. It was a mystery why was such a megalomania until the end of time explained that rassalon sent back his heartbeat thru the untempered scysm to the moment the master looked in
Are you my mummy?
It should have been 4 years with just Yaz and the Doctor, the Chibbs would have given himself plenty of room to do good stories.
Um the face of bo
Yes... We know who are.
Just saying the whole thing with 13 and yaz did come from nothing. Some people just really wanted to see 13 and yaz together which was then noticed and made by the time of eve of daleks(or earlier in the same series) so in real life technically there was nothing. They weren’t planning on yaz being in love with the doctor so anything before season 13 was on accident
Announcing The Doctor as a lesbian just 1 episode before regenerating to a male Doctor is just ridiculous. Earlier or not at all... just another Chibnall mess-up.
Yes the last moments with River and 12 were saddening, but we knew the inevitable was coming. While 24 years is a bit cheesy, the writing ensured that it was bittersweet
Wonder why Davis decided to come back.
14 years later and it's 14th's time
So long term pay offs in New Who really, you throw in The Morbius Doctor's at the end as if you just remembered the classic era lol
I just wish we could have gotten Peter Capaldi as The Valeyard.
It's amazing the number of people who are upset that the video doesn't address Bernard Cribbins' death and even suggests he will be back.
It took me all of five seconds to learn that he passed away two days AFTER the video was published.
WhoCulture doesn't actually have a time machine, at least not a working one.
I can only imagine this video was made a while ago and just posted, Bernard Cribbins passed away earlier this year so i doubt we will be seeing Wilf Again.
Bernard was spotted on the set of the 60th anniversary before he died
@@danthemeegs8751 ah good to know, had not seen that, cheers for that :)
@@The_Legion_of_Fire_Ants It's ok. It didn't receive an official BBC announcement so lots of people don't know!
Given the mention of the single series arcs from New Who, I'm a bit disappointed that the Key to Time arc from classic Season 16 didn't get a mention
Not a payoff but a nice Easter egg. Rose and the metacrisis doctor had a kid and her name is Mel
I love Wilf, glad to see him coming back.
He unfortunately won't be, Bernard Cribbins passed away this July :(
@@Em13331 Oh, man... :(
Okay, this could just be my old brain not remembering correctly - what about the face of Boe as one of the longest payoffs? I believe TFOB first appeared during Baker's tenure as the Doctor (maybe just the old memory I mentioned) and yet we don't find out who the face of Boe is until #10 comes along. Jack Harkness being TFOB is also a huge reveal. Cheers....
The Face of Boe first appeared in 'The End of the World' in 2005.
@@NoelPKelso yes, I know now. Old brains not remembering correctly! Cheers....
@@bazzer124 Tell me about it...
Wow. Chibnall still has a final episode to try and bury the franchise he gleefully murdered. His name is definitely up there together with dumb and dumber.
MORBIUS
It’s morbin’ time.
the timeless child story should be retconned
Yaz is my fav companion since Martha.
Yaz was lame like the rest of the cast supporting Jodie.
InnFahr media here.
2 points.
The Timeless Child has a typical narrative errors of Chris Chibnall. You can't have River Song and the Timeless Child. The Timeless Child story claims the source of regeneration power comes from the Timeless child. Chibnall never paid attention otherwise he would know that Dr River Songs entire back Story depends on the true source of regeneration power, the Time Vortex. Hér parents were human yet she had time lord power. Either you have River Song or the Timeless Child. You can't have both
The master is the timeless child. That fixes everything
No mention of The Master's cultivation of the Original CyberRace from Mondas ... F
Those are pretty long.
Second thing. You forgot Queen Elizabeth the first. I won't do your jobs for you
Moment, the weapon is used in 50th special was mentioned in Season 4 finale.
Was it really? What's the line?
@@danthemeegs8751 In Galifrey council they ask where the doctor is and the reply was he is with the moment. Something along those lines. 50th anniversary fits perfectly into the timeline.
@@CemKalyoncu Oh I thought you mean the Series 4 finale Stolen Earth/Journey's End. You're talking about The End of Time 😄
@@danthemeegs8751 You're right, it is in the End of time. I haved mixed up the finale and the Cristmas special.
Yeh sorry. Yaz fancying the doctor is sooooo weakly done but it just about works as you can tell she does fancy her. But chibnall making the Doctor fancy Yaz back has come COMPLETELY from nowhere. She spends the majority of series 11, 12 and 13 actively pushing her companions away, being distant AF and not communicating with anybody. It’s never even clear if any of the trio even actually like the Doctor or she even likes them back or wants them there. They have no moments of bonding at all, they’re just there. So for 13 to turn around and be like ‘yeh I fancy you too wish I could stay with you forever’ is so bloody unearned.
She’s got more chemistry with the TARDIS
Good video
Thank you!
what they did with clara pissed me of the much and made definitely no sense.
clara was like rose, she was awesome, he was meant for the doctor, a woman he could've come to love basically.
and until they actually spelled it out the doctor never did go too far with her. i mean i can't see him doing more risky stuff for her as he did for rose or donna. so what the hell people are telling?
and then, suddenly, some time lord asshole demands claras death?! hello? and since when can we demand a persons death? isn't time meant to be protected and not to be bent in order to prevent disasters from happening that would've never happened if you just back the fuck off?!
the shit only started when they killed clara. so of course the doctor would be pissed off, because he already lost too many comrades and because clara is special and because he didn't even have a particular choice because he was trapped in some weird disk where he dies one trillions times. btw, what a dick move. good for him that he lost that memory. this is one of my most skipped episodes because this is no benefit for a story or character developing it's just torture. for both me and the doctor
i still believe that he would've accepted claras death under other circumstances. i mean what of a half assed death is this? this is no sacrifice for the love she didn't get with the one she loved, she didn't lost her memories and married some black guy and she didn't got to be with a clone version. Every who companion eventuall parts with him but they deserve happyness, and until that point EVERY who companion found happyness.
abusing the doctor-companion relationship to turn him into an evil monster is the most evil moment in the who history i think. at least till that point... the whole jody whittacker plot is just an evil nightmare for me.
Morbius schmorbius. The Timeless Child was a half-baked, half-arsed rabbit out of a hat.
Re. the narration on Clara's arc: What is a "Mary Sue" storyline / character?
It means "Too perfect to be true".
Please let's not throw all the spoilers out in what's meant to be an historic video. Many of us had no idea about the thing you mentioned for the next series, and imagine how amazing it would have been for us to experience it going in blind.....but now we can't. How great would it have been if they kept the Jack surprise better for the previous season? Let's try to do that please.
Please try to tag any video that's speciation about an upcoming season, or confirmed happenings in an upcoming season.
I love watching your videos... Steaks are getting high, and it's time to make every word count.
As a member of the lgbtq community I can not possibly agree that the Yaz-Doctor love story arc was remotely well-handled, or even realistic. It was a big turn-off.