10 Crazy Doctor Who Fan Theories People Actually Believed

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  • @little-wytch
    @little-wytch ปีที่แล้ว +166

    If the Midnight Entity (scariest of them all in my opinion) really had been a TARDIS, I totally would have believed her to be the Master's TARDIS based on how creepy she was lol.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Yup. And honestly, I don't think I'd complain if we got that reveal. I mean, what else could be remotely as satisfying? I think it basically HAS to be a twisted, corrupted TARDIS, or remain a mystery. Pretty much anything else would probably be a terrible reveal. I mean, I have to imagine there's at least 1 other satisfying possibility, but I can't think of it.

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      He's had a couple over the years

    • @tumek666
      @tumek666 ปีที่แล้ว

      What if the midnight creature was the actual Master

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@tumek666 Then people would hate it just like they do The other times he's gotten weird super powers
      Even though his goal throughout the majority of the classic series was to find a way to get more power, whether it be political or actual physical superpowers

    • @Roadkill3333
      @Roadkill3333 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Honestly I think that maybe it's a sentient planet, like house?

  • @hollymatton474
    @hollymatton474 ปีที่แล้ว +109

    I remember hearing a fun fan theory that clara grew up near the Powell Estate and that she may have known rose tyler and mickey smith and that clara's mum may have been friends with jackie tyler! In a short prequel for the series 7 episode The Bells of Saint John, whilst clara's mum is talking to a friend in the park, some people believe that someone can be heard shouting jackie's name. And when the eleventh doctor and young clara are on the swings, a blonde girl and a young boy walk past and some people believe they resemble a young rose and mickey. It's probably completely untrue, but the date of death on ellie oswald's headstone in the episode The Rings of Akhaten is the date of the auton invasion in the series 1 episode Rose, which would imply that they lived near the Tyler's and that ellie was possibly killed during the auton invasion. During the Impossible Girl mystery in series 7 I had a theory that clara was created by rose when she became bad wolf in series 1 in order to keep the doctor safe in the future. Love a good fan theory! Thanks Ellie and Who Culture! 😊😊

    • @bobdallas4860
      @bobdallas4860 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      In addition to that, Clara's neighbourhood as shown in The Time of The Doctor heavily resembles Rose's neighbourhood.

    • @CNYTE
      @CNYTE ปีที่แล้ว +16

      That would make a lot of sense as it would mean that the whole Impossible Girl arc actually came from somewhere that makes sense and explains how Rose saw all of time and actually did something to protect the future Doctor.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Honestly, wouldn't be so bad if they did know each other. Would kinda be fun if The Doctor ran into Clara and Jackie again and went to introduce them, but then they were like, "Oh, we know each other." Although, honestly, I think Jenny would come back before Clara does at this point.

    • @hollymatton474
      @hollymatton474 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@bobdallas4860 They did film the scenes of Clara's estate at the same place they filmed the scenes for the Powell Estate where rose lived, which probably means nothing, but does add a fun element to the fan theory! 😊😊

    • @mrjoe5292
      @mrjoe5292 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@Paradox-es3bl Don't think the Doctor is gonna be running into Jackie again lol. Fun idea though.

  • @Enigmanaut
    @Enigmanaut ปีที่แล้ว +60

    I'm surprised you didn't have the "Adam is Davros" theory. Way back in series one, when Adam got the port in his forehead, people all over the Outpost Gallifrey forum were insisting that Adam would become Davros and show up in the finale to get revenge on the Doctor. Madness

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Thay didn't know if it was a reboot or continuation soo

    • @BalrogsHaveWings
      @BalrogsHaveWings 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Ooh that's good, hmm I kinda like that.

  • @TwoCentReview
    @TwoCentReview ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I love the Midnight Entity. It is so clever and terrifying. The acting is amazing. It would be a huge mistep to have it come back unless it was done in a way where it was still mysterious and powerful.

  • @scarletbard6511
    @scarletbard6511 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    This entire time I thought the woman who picked up the Master's ring, was his wife.

  • @joshuacurphey3242
    @joshuacurphey3242 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Apart from the one about Rory actually being The Master (which I never believed), I’ve never heard of any of these theories. Meanwhile, I always thought that the hand that picked up The Master’s ring was Lucy, The Master’s wife, considering that the woman who did actually pick it up (real name Miss Trefusis) had red nail paint like what Lucy wore. Ironically, both Lucy and Donna (amongst several other major female characters from the revived series, including Missy) were believed to actually have been The Rani, a renegade Time Lady who has also faced off against The Doctor a few times (and even worked with The Master in her first appearance).

  • @TwoCentReview
    @TwoCentReview ปีที่แล้ว +35

    For the monks, I actually thought that they might have been survivors from The Fires of Pompeii, because that episode has a special connection to the Doctor because he copied the Roman father’s face. Not true, but kinda cool, I feel.

    • @theTrueSventos
      @theTrueSventos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      also, they did look like the Head Priestess of the Sybilline sisterhood (half-way Pyrovile variant of course)

  • @silashellebrand462
    @silashellebrand462 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    #6 Were the writers referencing that theory when Amy said "This man is your Father," as a way to terrify some people, and tease others?

    • @warrenny1168
      @warrenny1168 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Definitely

    • @danthemeegs8751
      @danthemeegs8751 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      1000%. I remember watching A Good Man Goes To War live and being like WHAT when Amy said that line. The opening of that episode was a deliberate troll by Moffat.

    • @Croftice1
      @Croftice1 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      And the question of Amy (or Rory, not sure, have to watch the episode again) "whose child it is?", the Doctor takes a moment, then responds with "it's mine", both parents sport a terrified look, then the Doctor adds, "the crib, it's mine". That short confusing moment surely adds to the theory, since the Doctor still left that "important" question unanswered, instead cryptically decided to confuse everyone by answering an earlier question about the crib.

    • @arcanewarrior863
      @arcanewarrior863 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@danthemeegs8751tbh it was also kinda silly, as the description doesn't really suit Rory. This incarnation of him hasn't lived for thousands of years, that was a Nestene duplicate which was erased with everything else. Also saying the people of this world know him better by another name, most people of his world know him by Rory, most people only know the last centurion through history documents

  • @CritterKeeper01
    @CritterKeeper01 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Graham would have been better if he was really the Master, not the Doctor. We were just coming off of Missy's redemption arc, and the Master taking on a human identity and inserting himself into the Doctor's life as a Companion would have followed that progression, letting the Doctor get to know and like Graham and see him as a good person before learning who that good person used to be.

  • @Shadow-jr5kx
    @Shadow-jr5kx ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I can't believe nobody has put forth the theory that The Doctor and River Song have a child together . The last part of Silence in the Library, where The Doctor says "There is only one way I can tell you my name." before her death, and earlier in the same episode, when River says " I have never seen him this young." Maybe she knew 14.. And the biggest clue of all is in The Wedding of River Song, when the Doctor asks River " Who are you?" She replies " I'm telling you, can't you read?" and points to the crib/cot. She is the mother of his child, it's a family crib with the family history on it. The Doctor reacts like a lightbulb goes on.. He says " Ohh..we" ( and makes kiss noises ) and then giggles with delight. From that point he treats her very differently. It was also River's cot, as Amy and Rory live in the TARDIS, Thus the old embroidered memento shaped like a leaf. My bet is the only way the Doctor can tell someone his name, is to make a new life, a baby, with them. I would guess the child is born following the Husbands of River Song in those 24 year long night..

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl ปีที่แล้ว +5

      It's when he marries them, obviously.

    • @thomashall8701
      @thomashall8701 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So close yet so far

    • @GrahamPointer1972
      @GrahamPointer1972 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I do remember the pregnant River theory - in "The Impossible Astronaut" both she and Amy feel sick after seeing the Silence, but others don't. At the time it was suggested that this was due to being pregnant, as Amy was/wasn't pregnant.

    • @Shadow-jr5kx
      @Shadow-jr5kx ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Right you are. Don't know how I forgot/missed that. Still pretty sure they have a kid. @@Paradox-es3bl

  • @mjvdg4194
    @mjvdg4194 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Of these all I really really like the Midnight TARDIS one!
    I agree it shouldn’t ever be confirmed lol but I love the concept!
    Maybe if a future story hints it super vaguely

    • @legendswarble2845
      @legendswarble2845 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I would enjoy seeing a TARDIS as a villain. It could be very fascinating

  • @lucimorningstar666
    @lucimorningstar666 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Ok I'm not gonna lie! But I actually believed that the 11th Doctor was actually the father of Amy and Rory's daughter, until it was actually revealed that Amy had been kidnapped just after conceiving Melody (a.k.a River Song), and it turned out that Rory was the father.

    • @theTrueSventos
      @theTrueSventos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Roronicus, the DNA test results are in.. You ARE the father!

  • @adamstewart9052
    @adamstewart9052 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    I don't think the entity was more keen on possessing the Doctor than anything else in there.

    • @wallacewallaby5782
      @wallacewallaby5782 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It mimicked everyone but eventually focused on the Doctor probably because he was talking more than the others, spoke directly to it using the most complex phrases allowing the entity to adapt to him, and was the one spending the most time near it (the others kept their distance).

    • @theTrueSventos
      @theTrueSventos 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@wallacewallaby5782 The entity imprinted on the Doctor and then tried to kill him.. I got it, the Entity =😼

  • @ProfArmitage218
    @ProfArmitage218 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    How about the theory tied to every mysterious female character who ever appeared on the show, that she was actually the Rani?

    • @plantainsame2049
      @plantainsame2049 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The doctor is a woman
      The rani is a timeless child ahhhhhhhhhg!!!!!!!!!!!!
      Lol

  • @daviddaniels4020
    @daviddaniels4020 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personally, I'd love it if Graham were the Doctor! As a matter of fact, when Clara told that Cyberman _she_ was the Doctor, I believed it and was all for it! And Mr. Walsh and Ms. Coleman would both make excellent future Doctors.
    Regarding Rory being the Master...if it were true, I hope it would be a version that had finally shaped up, saw the light, and was truly the Doctor's friend again. 😊

  • @DocFunkenstein
    @DocFunkenstein 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I don't see anything crazy about thinking the Doctor was the father of Amy's daughter, given the way she literally threw herself at him since day one (well, day two if you dismiss day one as little Amy). She was even still ready to go to town during her own wedding reception.

  • @georock15
    @georock15 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I like the Rory is the Master theory, give River's story another twist too

  • @andrewmurray1550
    @andrewmurray1550 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Had they fleshed out Clara character a bit more interestingly, I could believe she could have been a regeneration of Jenny, the Doctor's Daughter. (either past, or future, or travelling backward in time like River, but not letting on that fact).

    • @swiftwithoutnumbers
      @swiftwithoutnumbers ปีที่แล้ว +2

      thats weird, especially considering the fact that Clara had feelings for the doctor.

  • @hannahrhind603
    @hannahrhind603 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    The rumour I’ve heard most about doctor who is that Clara is river and the doctors child 😱😱

  • @oscca7756
    @oscca7756 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    While I'm not sure the Master-Rory theory was ment to be correct, there HAS to have been some dropped story line involving Rory being something else than he seemed. There were far too many seemingly intentional implications that something was up for this not to be the case, such as the headache-thing, and when he accidentally said they "used to" travel with the Doctor while still doing it.

    • @alexandercharizard3617
      @alexandercharizard3617 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      The "used to" in the god complex is a symbol that he considered his and amys life to be beyond the doctor. At that point they live their domestic live and only occasionally travel in the tardis. Most of their journeys together are in the past ("used to") and only very few are in the future. This is not a reference to rory being something else, but just an acceptance that he is growing out of this phase of his live. The doctor himself realizes this in this exact episode.

    • @weatherwitchandfelinefamiliars
      @weatherwitchandfelinefamiliars ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That's an excellent explanation 😊

    • @warrenny1168
      @warrenny1168 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The headache at least was explicitly explained in the episode

    • @oscca7756
      @oscca7756 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@alexandercharizard3617 It's a decent thought, and I do seem to remember Rory saying so as explanation. But I don't know, I always felt the phrasing was a bit of for that to be the case (which possibly could be just bad writing). Also, there are other situations as well, mostly those commonly used as support for the MasterRory theory. But yeah, in the end it's speculation.

    • @oscca7756
      @oscca7756 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@warrenny1168 It was? I don't remember that at all. It seems I have to rewatch "Let's kill Hitler" then

  • @Paradox-es3bl
    @Paradox-es3bl ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Some of these make a lot of sense, and given that Amy's baby was going to be a "time baby" it still kinda makes sense. I'd say at least 3 of these don't remotely qualify as "crazy" theories lol.

  • @so1opiniao
    @so1opiniao ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, I believe that the Kassavins are some kind of evolved version of the Boneless

  • @davidwebb4451
    @davidwebb4451 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    The timeless children made the timelord's regeneration ability a genetic trait stolen from the timeless child rather than being a result of being conceived in a Tardis. Hence unpalatable as it may be this change seems to point to the Doctor being River Song's father since she was able to regenerate and he was the only one around with this genetic trait - unless of course Rory really was the Master.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Considering the power Rose gets from absorbing the Heart Of The TARDIS, nah it's definitely plausible that amy getting/being pregnant while traveling in the TARDIS could result in a "time baby." They also said before "The longer someone travels in a TARDIS, the more 'time particles' will be around them." or something. Doesn't 10 use the old school red and blue 3D glasses to see them on himself and Rose in the New New New New New York on New Earth or whatever? The Timeless Child doesn't get to retcon better stories lol. If anything, I hope it gets retconned. Same reason I don't consider Captain Marvel canon to the MCU.

    • @YesTHATJohnSmith
      @YesTHATJohnSmith ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Well stated!
      I'm not fond of "The Timeless Child" holographic novel, either.
      (I'm pretty sure The Master concocted it, which makes me suspect that he's as good a writer as he was a Prime Minister.)

    • @TigerofRobare
      @TigerofRobare 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@YesTHATJohnSmith He still lasted longer than Liz Truss

  • @doppelganger3992
    @doppelganger3992 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    So if Rory is the Master then that means the Doctor married the Masters daughter,

  • @cringe_content_
    @cringe_content_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Rory... the man who dies again and again... the man who never stays dead... the man that's better then most men... the man who is better known as the master instead..."
    IF IT WAS REVEALED THAT IT WAS HIM HE SHOULD SAY THAT! RORY SHOULD SAY THAT!

  • @timothyweers8054
    @timothyweers8054 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    One thing I have been wondering about all these years that during the story Time Flight where the Master envelops the Zerophin collective into his Tardis, that after he repairs the part the Doctor had given him, how powerful should his Tardis be. In after stories makes no mention of this nor is most of the time not present unless you see it in The Trial Of A Timelord series. Otherwise it isn't seen again with The Mark Of The Rani or Survival.

  • @realbadger
    @realbadger ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When David Tennant was hit with the Dalek shot, at first I was concerned, but felt he'd just been winged; not enough to kill.
    But when he went full-on into regenerating, it was so utterly unexpected, I quite literally leaped out of my chair shouting, "𝙉𝙤𝙤𝙤𝙤𝙤𝙤...!!!"

    • @wallacewallaby5782
      @wallacewallaby5782 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I actually wish regenerations in NuWho happened more like this. It's weird for them to be mortally wounded but then just go on for days/weeks (in some cases like Tennant and Capaldi) before actually going through the process.
      It's just one of many things NuWho ruined about regeneration along with the destructive power of it (makes no sense, especially to the extent Matt Smith's Doctor's regeneration did to the Dalek ships), the ability to heal others, and being able to regenerate at any time even without injury. The Doc could shoot energy from his hands at any time to get out of scrapes if he had to.

  • @drwfigureadventures
    @drwfigureadventures ปีที่แล้ว +3

    “To once again invoke Orphan 55-“
    No don’t do that. Really. Really, don’t…

  • @karachter
    @karachter ปีที่แล้ว +2

    honestly "the doctor is melody's father" is horrible, that's basically completely writing off amy's morals saying that she cheated on rory

  • @sothisishowusernameswork.2043
    @sothisishowusernameswork.2043 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Are we gonna ignore the fact that at the "The 11th doctor is the father" part they said
    "But it put the notion of any romance between the doctor and amy to *bed* "
    Are we just gonna forget that?

  • @GrahamPointer1972
    @GrahamPointer1972 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember when it was speculated that Harriet Jones (whoever she is) was the one who picked up the Master's ring.

    • @scarletbard6511
      @scarletbard6511 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Harriet Jones, former Prime Minister.

    • @brainlock72
      @brainlock72 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@scarletbard6511yes, we know!

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought Anthony Head's character in the School Reunion was the Master returning

    • @animelovers000
      @animelovers000 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Still time for him to be the master, he'd make a fantastic one

  • @jb888888888
    @jb888888888 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    That last one is true though. The next Doctor did appear in "Journey's End." Played by David Tennant.

  • @NZArchie
    @NZArchie ปีที่แล้ว +7

    What if Doctor/Ruth was actually The Doctor's Daughter? It kinda makes sense. Their DNA would match because she was cloned from the Doctor's cells. Jenny was born in a War so that would make her more like Ruth. She would model her Tardis exterior after her father's to honor him. It would look different inside because she never actually went in. But, why would she call herself the Doctor? Maybe to honor her father. Maybe to remember him. Or maybe it's one of the only things she remembered after her regeneration. The name Doctor.
    It also explains Why the Doctors don't know about their past lives.

  • @Rhianalanthula
    @Rhianalanthula ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Genesis of the Daleks has a different origin story to the The Daleks, which were introduced in Hartnell's second story after An Unearthly Child. Watching them months (maybe a year or two) apart rather than four incarnationsm meant that I noticed it. I originally thought different people had written it forgetting what had berndone before. Seems the Terry N wrote both, so maybe he forgot. In universe, the discrepancy could be based on History is written by the Winners.

  • @axlefoley6330
    @axlefoley6330 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Let's be honest, 13 going out with "tag you're it" is Chibnall's best writing for Whitaker, sad it came at the end. I honestly wished the writing for 13's seasons had been better, I was all for a female Doctor had the writing been good also I would have loved to have seen an interaction between 13 & River Song, that, in the words of River would have been "a whole different birthday". Though that line always stuck out to me, knowing what we know about River and the Doctor and how they never meet in the correct order, is she alluding to a past birthday celebration with the Doctor in they have an adventure with River as multiple incarnations? Certainly would make for a cool anniversary special or even Christmas special idea, hell it could also mean that perhaps River has witnessed one of the Doctor's regenerations and it happened on her birthday I could imagine that the self confessed "perfect psychopath" would thrill at the idea of witnessing the Doctor's change. Oh well fun to speculate but is probably just River fantasizing over meeting multiple Doctors at the same time or just a throw away line that isn't meant to go anywhere.

    • @y_fam_goeglyd
      @y_fam_goeglyd 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'm not sure about the conspiracy theory side of it (don't take it personally, I feel that way about all of them ;)), but I 100% agree regarding the "Tag, you're it!" line. That said _so much_ about her! Self-assured, confident without being too arrogant, and with a great sense of humour!
      Up till then the men had been reluctant at best, but she even went with a beautiful smile. And she didn't burn up the TARDIS like other NuWho docs insist on doing!

  • @gorillazzilla
    @gorillazzilla 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    12:03 David Tennant regenerated back into himself, and then shunted the remaining energy back to Handy, the severed hand. Matt Smith's incarnation recounts this in Time of the Doctor.

  • @undying_artv2
    @undying_artv2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Unfortunately the timeless child plot has made regeneration genetic which unfortunately means yes river is the doctors child , she can’t have time lord powers unless it is genetic

  • @mathieuleader8601
    @mathieuleader8601 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I thought the glowing aliens in Spyfall where a returning Ancient Lights from the Sarah Jane Adventures episode Secrets of the Stars.

  • @galaxiaprince
    @galaxiaprince 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    a lot of these theories are the sort of thing i'd never actually want canon but would love to read fanfictions about

  • @kelvington4182
    @kelvington4182 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I feel out of my chair at the... ooohhhh yikes moments! Well struck everyone, well struck.

  • @taliesinllanfair4338
    @taliesinllanfair4338 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you for sharing these theories. If I come across a fellow Doctor Who fan that spouts these theories. I will make every effort possible to have them sectioned.

  • @lordolxinator
    @lordolxinator ปีที่แล้ว +7

    There's another theory that John Frobisher from the Torchwood Children of Earth series is actually a Chameleon Arch disguised Twelfth Doctor. The theory posits that after Clara "dies", the Twelfth Doctor tries to run from his grief by sealing away his psyche for a bit. Like a holiday or something. The TARDIS sets him up in early 21st century Britain as John Frobisher, a civil servant with a pretty mundane life but ties to the PM due to his innate need to stick close to "fixed point events" that might need a helping hand. He finds a wife, has kids, and becomes embroiled in the 456 conspiracy. The Doctor's inner subconscious keeps fighting with Frobisher's over going along with putting children at risk for the PM's plan, resisting and becoming somewhat increasingly erratic. He even goes overkill against Torchwood, because The Doctor's knowledge that Jack and Torchwood are the real deal manifests as Frobisher "wanting to be sure". Eventually after the Prime Minister orders Frobisher to submit his children to the 456, he has a mental breakdown. The Frobisher personality has struggled with the increasingly bizarre and traumatising events the past week, and The Doctor's psyche is trying to force its way out to deal with the situation and save the children. Frobisher ends up killing his children and wife to spare them from the 456, and The Doctor's psyche/self-preservation instincts kick in to knock himself out before the final suicidal gunshot can hit its target. The PM's staff wondering where Frobisher and his family have gone would investigate and (internally) announce they were found dead.Supposedly some mishmash delirious Frobisher/Doctor personality almost entirely fuelled by self-preservation and mindless determination to get back to the safety of the TARDIS would then (amidst the confusion and chaos) slip out of the clean-up by the government, and stumble back to his TARDIS, collapsing inside. He'd awake much later, confused about what's transpired, but conclude it was likely a residual effect of the memory loss device employed with Clara.
    The theory doesn't really hold up, but only seems to exist to answer two questions: Why does Twelve (whose resemblance to Caecillius, another Capaldi character in the Whoniverse was strongly focused on) not have a reason for looking exactly like Frobisher? And why didn't The Doctor get involved with the 456, especially considering kids were at risk? The Chameleon Arch putting Twelve as Frobisher who becomes a focal (but tragically unwilling pawn/victim) part of the 456 crisis answers the first, and supposedly the Tenth Doctor (the active one at that time specifically)'s TARDIS would have instinctively known from the timelines to steer clear of a future version of itself and a disguised human version of the Twelfth Doctor going through some shit (and unfortunately letting Ten know about human kids getting abducted and abused for decades or longer would have just complicated matters dramatically). There's too many plot holes with the theory, but it's one I've seen circulating around regarding Frobisher.

    • @chubby_deity3143
      @chubby_deity3143 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hm, if the Tardis can disguise as a human, I wouldn't mind if this "Tardis" is actually Clara and Ashildr, you know, doing their "long way around" trip to Clara's death...

    • @DneilB007
      @DneilB007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@chubby_deity3143You might be confusing the Chameleon Circuit with the Chameleon Arch.
      The Chameleon Arch is a derived technology from the Chameleon Circuit that the TARDIS uses to blend with its surroundings. The Chameleon Arch transforms a TimeLord into, essentially, a human being-not just in appearance, but also genetically, as shown in the “Human Nature/Family of Blood” storyline, where the Family of Blood was not able to locate the bio markers of the Doctor while he was using the Chameleon Arch.
      The use that the OP mentions is completely in line with what the show has done on-screen with the device.

    • @chubby_deity3143
      @chubby_deity3143 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DneilB007 ah, the watch thing from the Tennent era, got it, thx

  • @Donnagata1409
    @Donnagata1409 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    WTF? The Doctor clearly refused Amy!
    In that case, River would be both his wife and his daughter! Come on...

  • @GillianMStarlight
    @GillianMStarlight ปีที่แล้ว

    I've theorized that Missy programmed the GUS software that ran the future Orient Express. Gus disposed of the kitchen staff without a second thought.

  • @sarahclapp505
    @sarahclapp505 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I always thought that River was the one that got the masters ring the nail polish

  • @inspector2363
    @inspector2363 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most of these "theories" I've never even heard of & the Time Children etc. "confirms" bugger all beyond a conspiracy to gaslight the Doctor.

  • @CauseQ
    @CauseQ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Anyone else love the fact that Pecaldi actually looks like a Dalek in flesh form, like the crazy eyes lol

  • @RaggedyDoctor11
    @RaggedyDoctor11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Oh I was Amy’s daddy alright!

  • @dmwait
    @dmwait ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never were pre Hartnell doctors, 13 is only a fever dream induced by the toy maker.

  • @brainlock72
    @brainlock72 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Jack is River Song, post-nanogene facelift.
    Too many parallels between the two, and their obsessions with the Doctor(s).
    He is immortal, and after a few centuries, he gets a “facelift” thanks to nanogenes, in order to avoid meeting himself, avoid someone else, or just because he felt his old face was boring. Simple transition to a female form and “Hello, Benjamin!” He then tracks down the Doctor once more, playing coy about their previous times together and the chase begins anew.
    I may have put enough thought into this to write a short fanfic. *whistles innocently*
    Alternatively, Jack is the child of River and Doctor, which explains why 9/10 humored him, but brushed off his flirtations.

    Amy & Rory’s timeline is an alternate time bubble, created by Kovarian/Silence/W.Angels/Random Villain (House?)
    The whole arc is not involved in any other Whoniverse project, past or present, and very self contained.
    Sure, we see Daleks, Cybermen, and whatnot, but other than SJA: Death of the Doctor, we don’t see 11’s run reference anything else he’s done, unlike every Doctor before and since, Library excepted. We don’t even get a hint of the Master!

    • @tokyodeathghoul2313
      @tokyodeathghoul2313 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You're suggesting Jack is the doctors son who upon meeting his father begins flirting with him and the doctor.......humors him? What is Doctor Who a prequel to The Hills Have Eyes??

    • @brainlock72
      @brainlock72 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@tokyodeathghoul2313 what?, no.
      Two separate theories.
      Then again, one theory is the Doctor is EVERY TIME LORD EVER. And this one really picked up steam after the Timeless Child arc.

  • @thegamingaa8915
    @thegamingaa8915 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I do find the Doctor being the parent of Amy's baby theory very funny nowadays, entirely due to Chris Chibnall, since by making regeneration a genetic trait that means there really is only one way that Melody Pond can now regenerate

  • @beardedmotu2007
    @beardedmotu2007 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    R T D could be wicked to make Amy and Rory “The Master & The Rani 💡Theta Sigma … Ellie likes the River Song 🎶 lol

  • @theradgegadgie6352
    @theradgegadgie6352 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    3:42 It didn't so much tear up the rulebook, as it did shit in its mouth and insist it was caviar.

  • @BalrogsHaveWings
    @BalrogsHaveWings 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Never heard about the Midnight Entity being a "renegade/ rogue" TARDIS before... Of course I like the mystery but I actually really like the idea... Could explain where the Master's TARDIS went. Hmmm...

  • @FandomTheWise
    @FandomTheWise ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm sorry. Graham being the doctor is hilarious but in a funny way. He's a really good companion

  • @OB_Gaming
    @OB_Gaming 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maybe Jim, the fish is the big fish thing from when the doctor took Bill to that weird thing I don’t know

  • @koylar
    @koylar 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    the biggest question doctor who asks is “when the hell will jim the fish finish his dam!?!”

  • @marycook8664
    @marycook8664 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I always wondered since The Midnight Entity followed The Library if it was The Vashta Nerada again that was attacking their train.

  • @igorschmidlapp6987
    @igorschmidlapp6987 ปีที่แล้ว

    Judging from the excellent manicure, I think that it was Ellie that picked up the Master's ring! If she shows up wearing it on a WhoCulture posting here, we'll know! ;-P

  • @Wolf359inc
    @Wolf359inc ปีที่แล้ว +5

    My favourite fan theory is the Time Lords evolve from humans, or vice versa. We are connected, somehow…

  • @aita_sageblood3965
    @aita_sageblood3965 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Ok but can we all just collectively imagine how heartbreaking it would have been if Journey’s End was David’s actual regeneration?
    Spending all that time pining after Rose, he finally reunites with her, only to be gunned down by a stray Dalek - regenerating and then going through the usual process of post-regen amnesia? The pain Rose would have felt as he stared into her eyes with no recollection? 😭

    • @Trev359
      @Trev359 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      We he regenerated from the 9th Doctor into the 10th he recognised her straight away so I don't see that. Also, when he did regenerate into the 11th he didn't suffer from amnesia.

  • @TheHoldenmcgroin
    @TheHoldenmcgroin ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The only thing that should end with Coldplay... Is Coldplay...

  • @TheUnknown313
    @TheUnknown313 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What's the background song/track used in this video called? Quite relaxing actually!

  • @redking4887
    @redking4887 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Haven’t watched the video yet, but that thumbnail is so cursed.

  • @denisenicholas4719
    @denisenicholas4719 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's explained that melody was conceived on the tardis and so the time matrix merged with melody

  • @4444randomness
    @4444randomness ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’ve come across weirder theories in fanfiction

  • @wallacewallaby5782
    @wallacewallaby5782 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Most of these fan theories were terrible. LOL.
    Anyway, is the speculation about the Doctor being the father of Amy's baby really considered a "fan theory"? The show was constantly hinting at it, and by hinting I mean it taped the idea to a brick and was smashing it into the viewers face over and over. People were intended to suspect exactly this.

  • @JahelKalus
    @JahelKalus 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    With the Doctor vanishing, because they stepped onto the circle, and now Sutekh been the only one in charge of the TARDIS, what if Sutekh started manipulating the perception filter in order to push everyone away from Ruby and force her to commit suicide therefore getting rid of her for ever. With both Ruby and the Doctor gone, Sutekh has nobody to stop him from taking over the universe. If he was attached to the TARDIS for this long, he probably learned how to pilot the time capsule from the Doctor. He could go potentially go anywhere in time and space and kill anything that stood in his way. 🤔

  • @igorschmidlapp6987
    @igorschmidlapp6987 ปีที่แล้ว

    If Maury Povich guest stars on a Doctor Who episode, maybe we'll get our "Is he the father?" answer... ;-P

  • @mrs_g_needs3698
    @mrs_g_needs3698 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So I’m late to the party on this video, but doesn’t that red nail varnished hand look very familiar, same as who took the tooth

  • @CauseQ
    @CauseQ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn’t realize Mojo here was so against Coldplay, would it really have been so bad? What if it was Tennants song and way to go? Common people, grow up

  • @julianaylor4351
    @julianaylor4351 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the mystery woman who took the ring was the Master's wife.

  • @AndyTheRoo
    @AndyTheRoo ปีที่แล้ว

    All I'll say is.... I wish Bradley Walsh was The Doctor 🤣

  • @magnumlad1001
    @magnumlad1001 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Who is Jim the fish. WHO IS HE!

  • @so1opiniao
    @so1opiniao ปีที่แล้ว

    C'mon, if they would've played Yellow while 13th regenerated, it'd be so more emotional 😢

  • @Joemama55122
    @Joemama55122 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought the woman who picked up the ring was his wife at first and then Missy later

  • @animelovers000
    @animelovers000 ปีที่แล้ว

    One rumour i remember reading about was Tom baker was going to appear as the master in series 3

    • @Quirderph
      @Quirderph ปีที่แล้ว

      I mean, it would have been interesting if he played Yana. (Though really, wouldn’t that have been a big red flag to the Doctor?)

    • @animelovers000
      @animelovers000 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Quirderph It would have been a red flag for sure but since time lords can choose to look like people so Yana could have easily regenerated into the 4th doctor's appearance

  • @Trev359
    @Trev359 ปีที่แล้ว

    The one phrase that makes me shudder more than anything is 'fan theory'. I don't get why fans have to try and explain things that don't need explaining.

  • @matthew6704
    @matthew6704 ปีที่แล้ว

    with the midnight one i allways tryto see the shadow the guy saw but cant see it

  • @djsteeler69
    @djsteeler69 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So does this mean River is Susan and her own 'grandmother'?

  • @cyndicousins9480
    @cyndicousins9480 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    cant believe people actually though the doctor was river songs father, because they had a romantic relationship. And that is just plain wrong and i defienlty don't think its family friendly

    • @StarryEyed0590
      @StarryEyed0590 ปีที่แล้ว

      People thought the Doctor was the father of Amy's baby (while I never believed this, it was something being actively teased at by the show, so I think calling it a crazy fan theory is a stretch). We did not yet know that Amy's baby was River Song. If people had already known this, they would have realized it would never have written into a show like Doctor Who

  • @chubby_deity3143
    @chubby_deity3143 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    If Rory is the Master, that makes more sense to me to how River Song was part Time Lord than she was just conceived in the Tardis

  • @drvwho1
    @drvwho1 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I was watching Matt smith and I think he would make a great mr Ben curiosity shop owner whatever costume you wore ie fez it would take you there as in Egypt during the pharaohs time
    The bbc used to show mr Ben many years ago and was popular among kids

  • @toneenorman2135
    @toneenorman2135 ปีที่แล้ว

    So,who is Jim the Fish? Thank you.

  • @therandomcuriositiesofrae.2001
    @therandomcuriositiesofrae.2001 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wait if the doctors not Melody / Rivers's father then why does she regenerate ?

  • @paigemorris3169
    @paigemorris3169 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If number 6 was true then river song would of married her dad. Am I missing something???

  • @oxymoron02
    @oxymoron02 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I will never understand the love for Mary-Sue. I mean River Song.

    • @DrWhoFanJ
      @DrWhoFanJ 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@oxymoron02 Said no-one with a brain ever.

  • @andercert70
    @andercert70 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Master could have cured Donna inadvertently by sucking all the Gallifreyan out of her in order to resurrect himself.

  • @mousygirl
    @mousygirl ปีที่แล้ว

    Not!!!!The father! River Song is married to the Doctor

  • @chrisbellon3739
    @chrisbellon3739 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    All for current dr who, maybe have same kind of list for classic dr who,

  • @Jamesalec63
    @Jamesalec63 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who, family tree of life and everything. 60 years ago, an elderly gentleman emerged from a junkyard of conspiracies of his origins across time and the universe from a different dimension, not our universe according to his own story he also said he and his granddaughter Susan were from a future time where the law of time were out of sync with earth reality, as far as his story goes his memories weren't good at his great age when he first appeared about 169, in fact he was a young time lord in his first appearance so believed? As for honest facts, the doctors never lie? They do have a brain that works differently to humans and merely see things differently. A witness to historical events and future events and knowledge of all forms of life in any universe and have seen everything in ways unexplainable with the powers of the mental abilities of ESP, and possibly from a collective consciousness of other time lords.
    Family connections as we know the Doctor has a granddaughter Susan Foreman. On the gates to the junkyard, the sign says I. E . FOREMAN, in the first episode, we see it is the name of our doctor ( I ) ( E )?
    Susan does later marry, and I believe she has a daughter and son. Both are possible now in their 50s and living on a different world. The daughter might have a daughter to? Here's where I have a crazy idea she is actually the woman the masters wife? Or is she Rorys mother? Or possibly Amy's grandmother? Everything has s oddly collective theories?

  • @nitricoxidegod
    @nitricoxidegod ปีที่แล้ว +2

    👍

  • @jesseszymcik3026
    @jesseszymcik3026 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Oh! Now i want Rory to have been The Master!

  • @frankharr9466
    @frankharr9466 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It has been a long show.

  • @greggjennings8729
    @greggjennings8729 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I still believe the Doctor is River's dad and NO it has not been proven otherwise. 1 Rory was erased from time itself, he never existed, at least in Big Bang Universe 1, BUT River does still exist. How can River exist if her dad does Not? 2 an extension of the 1st is Amy jumping 11's bones on her pre wedding night, and that Rory does not come back into reality until AFTER that night. 3 it makes no sense how they could create River as a timelord without some time lord DNA. She does have time lord DNA and she didn't get it from Rory!

    • @mrdr0161
      @mrdr0161 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Then you're an idiot who likes incest

    • @MeridaEdhytSanwheyLosd
      @MeridaEdhytSanwheyLosd ปีที่แล้ว

      Igual tambiem creo que 11th es el padre, tan solo fijarnos en la forma muy rapida e inteligente de manejar la Tardis y saber mas cosas que el Doctor.

  • @karlelshoff4720
    @karlelshoff4720 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Considering the regeneration was not brought about through exposure to time travel as pointed out in Jodie Whitaker's time as the doctor we must assume the Doctor is the father of River Song. Thanks Chis Chibnall.

    • @lilpils2081
      @lilpils2081 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      or the theory that rory was the master in human form because timewimy genetics of a timelord still get passed down even if they arent currently in their timelord form (i hate both these theories tho) :)

    • @karlelshoff4720
      @karlelshoff4720 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lilpils2081 During the Matt Smith era they deal with the crack in the wall where two areas of space and time were not supposed to meet. This is a metaphor for the affair between Amy and the doctor. The Who universe is in denial.

  • @raypsychodad
    @raypsychodad ปีที่แล้ว +2

    All this proves is how stupid fan theories are.

    • @Kipperlab
      @Kipperlab ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But we have fun creating them =)

    • @dbzdrag0n
      @dbzdrag0n ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Kipperlaband we have fun looking back on how stupid they sound

  • @animelovers000
    @animelovers000 ปีที่แล้ว

    Graham as the doctor would have been a really good twist. H's the only character through 13s run i actually really liked a lot

  • @diddymuck
    @diddymuck ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my wacky theory...
    He brought his granddaughter to earth to be educated; her name was Susan, a name definitely non-alien and brings to mind Susan B. Anthony. He treasured his granddaughter...and perhaps he felt just as strong about her mother. Her mom was a feminist leaning person who like her craved travel and insane danger. When called back to Gallifrey, there was a secret he didn't what his companion to see. Could it be the evidence to the fact that Sarah, an orphan earthling with whom the Doctor felt an immense bond was more than just a friend. maybe she was left by the Doctor as a baby to be cared for outside of his influence?
    Could it be she was the Doctor's DAUGHTER.