I see two points favoring the 18-135: The 18-135 in the kit is 200 bucks cheaper than bought separately, while the 18-55 is only 100 bucks cheaper (although about the same in percentage). Also, since both lenses have a f/3.5-5.6 aperture, i suppose the 18-135 at 55 is faster than the 18-55 at 55. It makes sense to me since it is 9 mm larger in diameter, so it gathers more light. But, how much of a difference does it make? 2/3 of an f-stop, at best? And i see one point in favor of the 18-55: it can focus closer than the 18-135 (.25 m against .39 m). But, how useful is this extra close-focus ability?
HI Kellie, It is a tough call. The 18-135 STM is really nice to always have some zoom with you, no lens switching necessary and the 55-250 isn't a great lens but it does get you closer. So - convenience of one lens or a little more zoom? Personally I would go for the 18-135 STM and look at buying the 55-250 used on Amazon later, it sells for $110 or so. Also make sure Amazon can't beat BestBuy prices, I just added a link under video, Amazon is providing free SD card and bag.
Hi - you can certainly use your lens but when focusing it will make noise and not be as smooth as the STM lenses - which means it isn't really acceptable for video work unless you manually focus - which isn't as bad as it sounds.
Hi - Because you said video I really think the T4i with 18-135 STM is your best choice. It gives you a nice package with a convenient lens that does an excellent job of silent auto focusing. If you went with the T3i, your image and video quality would be the same but you would need to manually focus for your videos and it doesn't sound like that's the kind of video you are shooting. Also you'd miss out on touchscreen and stereo mic.
Oh I agree- just pointing out some value f/2.8 lenses. There are also prime lenses that can be useful like the 50 f/1.4 :) Don't go for the big do it all lenses, that is valuing convenience over image quality.
Thanks, glad you are finding it all useful. Are all these sports outdoors? One of the best options is the 85 f/1.8 - a fast lens with a great focal length for the distances you mention. Another option is the 70-200 f/4. But if this is all outdoors you may find the 18-135 to do the trick. Certainly give it a try first. Always happy to answer more questions and make sure you pop over to my facebook, I have a sweet giveaway happening right now.
If you plan to buy 700D or any rebel canon you can get the twin lens deal were you get the 18-55mm and also the 55-250mm zoom lens then you will have best of both worlds
With the 70D you will notice no focus speed differences between the two lenses and I would stick with the 24-105. The only benefit from the STM is silent autofocus during video, the 24-105 is going to make some noise that the onboard mic will pick up. And in answer to #2 still stick with 24-105 and save for a good wide angle like the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 - though you can use the 18-55 in the meantime.
It is better. Noticeably better? Probably only in occasional images. It doesn't sound like you need the extra range so you may be better off with the 18-135 and you can start saving for a nicer zoom like the 70-300 IS USM.
It depends on the detail level of the jewelry. I know people use the 18-55 and the 18-135 for jewelry photos so you may find that it works well for you too. And outside photos are just fine with the 18-55.
hi Amanda - the new 55-250 looks to be good but still in the realm of budget zoom. And it's not going to look great compared to the awesome sigma 18-35. What about the Canon 70-200 f/4 L? That would be on par with the quality and give you a great range with just a small gap.
I don't think so.The quality depends on the settings you use I use the 135mm lens and sometimes the long range is really valuable. Remember most of these cameras are cropped sensor cams for the 135mm focal length is somewhat closer to 216mm. Thats a decent tele lens range
hi Johan - The words "nice & sharp" don't go well with the Sigma 18-200 :( It is a very convenient lens but slow(both in focus and aperture) and just not as sharp as I would like to see. You could certainly try/borrow and see if it works for you - but I think you should buy the 18-55 kit too. happy to answer more questions.
Very surprised to hear that the original kit lenses out perform the 17-85! I have not see that- feel free to pass along some links. The newer 18-135 STM is improved, It is a very good lens overall - just wish there was a distance scale and it had real full time manual.
Are they the same in terms of image quality? 70D with 18-55mm STM + 55-250mm STM is going for the same as the 70D with 18-135mm STM. I'm not sure which to get. The 18-135 would make things really convenient and snappy, but the 250mm's extra zoom would also be useful...
Hello. Is the 18-135mm kit lens the same as the one sold separately on Canon.com? They have it bundled on Amazon, so if they are both the exact same lens I think I will do the 18-135mm. Are there other lenses that are 18-135 that is better than the kit?
Yes, in those cases you should leave it on auto focus. just realize that it will always take a second or two.. or three to refocus if those distances between you and the other people are different.
18-135 is about 7.5x zoom, so not as much as you are used to. I would not upgrade from 18-55 IS to 18-55 IS STM, unless you plan on doing lots of video and want to use the auto focus. The 18-135 STM is a very nice lens and remember a cheap way to zoom is to crop the images after. But if you really want zoom you can add the 55-250, it is an ok zoom lens, much better is the 70-300 IS USM, but it is also lots more expensive.
T4i and T5i are identical in most respects - get whichever you can find cheaper but T4i has been discontinued since so similar to T5i. For fisheye get Rokinon - manual focus only but excellent quality.
There are rules about focal length and shutter speed - the longer your focal length the faster your shutter speed needs to be - also some lenses (most that you start with) offer variable aperture - the aperture gets smaller and lets in less light as you zoom. so technically at 100 you will need more light with the 18-135 BUT that's still to compare because the 18-55 doesn't even go to 100. Between 18-55 on both lenses you would not be able to tell the difference between photos.
As always a very good and fair review,. I got the 18-135 with my 7D mk II and for the upper part of its range from 35m to 120 it serves a purpose but in all honesty I rarely shoot in that range. As you say it's a starter lens, but Canon are putting it as a kit on a camera that, to me, isn't a starter camera.
I think used is fine- just be wary of prices that seem to good to be true, these higher quality lenses hold their resale value and you probably will only end up saving $100 - $200 max, which isn't insignificant but not a huge savings either.
Won't 18-135 STM will do what a 18-55 STM can do because it covers this range too + gives addition of from 56-135 ? or there will be difference in quality too? I mostly want to shoot wedding portraits close ups and ofcourse good video of my family function
If I have a 24-105 L, should I get 18-135 (vs 18-55 when I buy 70D)? 1) for video would I notice a huge difference between the two as far as focus? I mean for autofocus? If I plan on manual focusing should I stick with 24-105? 2) for photography would I have reason to use the 18-135 for general photography/walkaround if I have the 24-105? Or should I just get the 18-55 for the wide end when needed. Love your videos!
Yes 85 is a longer focal length. doesn't make it better or worse - just different. 85 is great for tight portraits and head shots. 40 is a more versatile lens that can do portrait fine and is wider so it is more versatile.
All depends on how friendly the wildlife is. 135 is a decent amount of zoom but it isn't enough if you are photographing birds or other smaller wildlife that is shy.
I'm really torn which one to get. I think my deciding factor will be if one has superior image quality to the other. Can anyone give me their input on this?
It is a nice lens, I have been very happy with both the new STM lenses. I haven't tested side by side with either of the lenses you mentioned, I hope to sometime soon.
They are all outdoors and range from HS tennis matches to football games. I had a Sony A-300 in the past with a 55-300 mm zoom lens, but didn't really like it. I get the Canon tomorrow and want to play with for a while, so all of your videos have been a big help. I am still learning how to get the most from DSLR and use your work as teaching guides. I will keep you posted.
I have not - it is on my list and I hope to soon. I do have some videos shot in manual focus between the 650D and the D5200 in low light and on auto in good light - the 700D is identical in quality so those can help you make some decisions there. Send me a message on facebook and I will link you to the videos.
I've got the 18-55 STM and I intend to use it to vlog my trip to Europe this coming summer. If I'm walking around and talking to people and not necessarily looking at the screen, shouldn't I leave the lens set to auto focus? I'll be pointing the camera at myself and then back at different people without checking the live view to manually focus all of the time.
Hi Currently I'm using both 18-55mm and 50mm 1.8f/l with Canon T7i I want to upgrade my lens mainly for filming outfit videos and I'm so confused which one to go for. Can you please suggest a lens? My budget is from $1000-$1500 Thanks 🙏🏻
I am also considering the T5i but am not sure which kit lens to get. Options are 18-55, 18-135, and perhaps adding the bundled 55-250 (from Best Buy). Will I notice much more zoom with the 55-250 (over the 18-135) and is it worth the extra money ($150) or should I save for a 300 lens? I am not and do not plan on becoming a professional photographer. I am a mom with 2 boys that play baseball, both pitchers and outfielders, and one also plays football (night games). Thanks for your advice!
It depends if you want the 18-55 STM or the 18-135 STM. If you just want 18-55 STM then yes it makes most sense to get the T5i. Links under the video lead to best prices. Thanks!
Towards the end you said that for professional video they aren't so good because you wouldn't want to use auto-focus, and then immediately followed that statement saying that they have a good manual focus. Is there a particular lens that you'd recommend for professional quality video for an interview or documentary? I'd be attaching said lens to a 700d, FYI.
A nice prime like the 50mm f/1.4 or a 35 or 30mm prime. All of those uses you mentioned above you won't be using focus after setting to the kit lenses are fine too but the primes I just listed give you that shallow depth of field look.
Hello. This video was made prior to the release of the STM version of the 55-250. How does the STM (silent focus) version of the 55-250 change your recommendation? I am very interested in the 70D and am now bouncing between the 18-55 IS-STM along with the 55-250 IS-STM (which I can purchase here in Thailand for $1050 as a kit), or the 18-135 IS-STM for the same money as the 2 lens kit. I am a rank amateur with interest in learning to become semi-pro. I am interested in both urban and nature still photography and observational videos in the same venues. I do not intend to upgrade lenses for some time as I learn photography.
***** 55-250 STM is a good lens - slightly better quality and focus is faster, smoother and silent. Otherwise the advice here is the same. I do think most are better off spliting between two lenses than just 18-135 STM
Just done a wedding yesterday, totally agree with the 18-135 would be a great length lens! I had the 18-55 & 55-200. didn't have any use for the 55-200 and the 15-55 some just sometimes just a little too short.
I bought my SL2 body only and purchased the newer 24mm pancake for mostly street shooting. I added a refurb 18-135 STM on the cheap from Canon and am happy with the versatility and compactness of this rig. I will add another prime lens in the future because there is something visceral and more involved about using non-zoom lenses. The 18-135 (especially on a crop sensor) gives me more than enough range.
I came across this video today. When I purchased my Sl2 it came with the 18-55 STM. Recently I received as a gift the 18-135 STM. Can you think of any possible reason besides weight in the even of travel as to why I would need to keep the 18-55? Thx in advance!
I am buying T5i and debating if I should get 18-55 STM and 55-250 IS OR should I get 18-135 STM? As far as 18-55 range is one better than the other? How much better is 18-135 STM compare to 55-250 in 55-135 range? Camera will be used for general purpose and also a lot of car photography (most of it will be of moving cars shot from a moving car also and few of parked cars) Thanks for your help and love your reviews. Very informative.
Looking for an opinion! If I get a 18-135 stm and a 55mm instead of a 18-135 with the 55mm, will I the 55mm do a lot more than the 18-55mm? Sorry, maybe this was a stupid question! But I was told I should get 55mm and a 18-135mm. I'm new to this and I would love to know anybodies thoughts and suggestions as I'm considering buying a Canon 80D and choose one of those 2 lenses as an option, plus the 55mm. I only want to shoot my family pictures and some road trips when possible. Any suggestions?
I bought the T5i body only and am buying the 70d not sure which package yet. What are your thoughts throwing in the not yet released 55-250. I have sigma 1.8 18-35 so looking for a longer range not sure if I should get the 18-135 or wait on the 55-250.
I got 650d / 18-55 kit lens. Most of the times I will be shooting indoor like my kids photos, portraits, birthdays and in house functions, friends marriages and casual outside beach shots etc. I want better quality pictures (prof. touch)without using flash (as of now) and image quality should be better than point and shoot cameras otherwise no point in buying DSLR. What lens or lenses you would advice for me to buy immediately. I have budget but not very high, I can invest reasonable amount.
Even if you are manually focusing the STM lenses have a generally better quality than the previous models without the STM. It's a quality you can notice or I would not mention it. Out of the 2 lenses here the 18-135 is the better grab no matter what you're doing, even if you want to upgrade later the 18-135 will hold its value nicely and give you a good chunk of cash to put towards your next piece of glass ! For fashion work, you will love the 18-135, it will give you a nice 50-80mm range for all your editorial types of work, and at 135mm you will get some very pretty beauty shots as well as a much better bokeh (blurry backgrounds) to single out your subject.
Absolutely! I purchased an older canon without the STM and actually sent the whole thing back. While it took great photos, I wanted to capture video as well (new baby) and the constant *WEEEEERRR* *WEEERRR* during the videos was awful!
Hi, I'm looking to buy this camera for some music videos for youtube. Like music clips of live performances in my room/studio. That would be the main purpose of it. Some guitar video lessons and some music performances where I just place it on a tripod and use my Go Pro for wider angles. So my doubt is, should I buy a 18-55 STM + 55-250 STM bundle or just a 55-135 ?!
Thanks for this video. So I am still not sure which lens is best. I am looking to record videos doing makeup tutorials mostly and some photos. Which would you recommend?
Was gonna do the 18-135mm however I went with the 24-105L Lens because i might upgrade later. did i make a right choice for that lens on a crop sensor?
I'm planning to get the EOS 70D as well! I'm leaning towards the 18-55mm STM Lens because there is this bundle that also comes with the 55-250mm STM lens.It's also a relatively cheap bundle. I believe what Toby said at 3:33 does not apply with this camera because this camera has great auto-focus. Although it's your choice to decide, and Toby has made some great points in this video.
Thanks for the video. I am on my way to purchase my first DSLR and I have almost placed my bet on the Canon 700d. I wanted to know which option would make sense if I go for the kit option Should I should go for the 18-55 STM and the 55-250 STM or should I go for the 18-135 STM and the 55-250 STM? I will add the 50mm STM 1.8 for the portraits later. Cheers!
I went for the 18-135 STM option because I got a good deal and I did not want to shuffle lenses between a shoot too quickly. I am not a professional and have photography as my hobby so I end up shooting family photos most of the time. I also got myself the 50 mm f/1.8 and have been using that more than the 18-135 STM, because I am shooting a lot of portraits lately.
i would like to purchase a T6i with the 18-135mm lens. Im in an intermediate lever and would like to learn all the settings and have photography as my hobby. Is that lens good enough and a good camera as well to go around and take pictures of our beautiful world?! Thanks!
hey man , i just got the t4i yesterday with the 18-135 STM lense and I am so happy with it. your review just made my day, i was concerned about the lenses, but now I am sure i made a good decision. I am planning to use it for video even though I am not a professional video maker or photographer.. and well, I think I´ll use it until my budget increases or until I realize that the quality of this camera is not fitting my standars. for now, I does and incredible job for me.
Hi! I want to upgrade from my current Canon G7x I'm using for all my videos on my channel (will continue using it for travel/vlogs etc, but I want a DSLR for my sit-down vlogs, outfit videos, beauty videos etc)... which of these would you recommend for me? I'm not wanting to do pro film making but do want my videos to be more pro in my area, if that makes sense! Thankyou :)
I don;t think i need the 18-135,,,no need for the zoom right now,,with that said would the 18-55 work well for an all around outside lens to take pictures outside and jewelry pictures,,or do i really need a macro lens for jewelry. Thanks
hey toby what would you recommend.. buy a used 24-105 L or a 18-135 STM.. (I`m more into filming than taking pictures) by the way you make awesome videos!
price has fallen in the used market. I just got the 18-135 is stm for $200. Plan to use it for outdoor video as a second angle camera. I also own the 18-55 is stm it came with my sl1.
Hi, I am thinking to buy a DSLR. It comes with 2 options of lenses: 1. 18-140 2. both 18-55 and 55-200 Both these options costs the same. Which one should I take? 1 single lens or two different lenses?
Great video! I'm happy to say that I am the proud owner of a t4i with an 18-135 STM! After months of watching your videos, I finally gave in! I basically learn everything from you haha. Thanks for all the help Toby, I look forward to more videos so I can continue learning :)
very informative video, i have a question am using i t5i with 18-55mm on a glidecam hd2000 but i have lots problems with focus my object , which lens are the best to used on a glidecam...
I'm planning to buy a 700d with an 18-55mm STM lens. for making videos mainly. I wanted the STM lens since manual focusing will be tough while holding the camera with a stabilizer. Please correct me if I am wrong or let me know if there is a better way. Thanks.
Good day. I have the 70D 18-135mm, but I'd like to get one that is f2.8 or better. AND with a silent motor that is good to use for video. I've not been able to find anything online, and wondering if you could help advice. Thanks!
PhotoRec Toby Hi Toby, with almost same amount of money should I get a 18-135 STM or a 18-55 STM + 50mm 1.8G. I mostly used it for travel and some portraits. THX
Thank you for this. I'm looking at both of these lenses right now and have been on the fence. Your views on these lenses has helped me make a decision. Great job Toby!
Q: I wanted to by a t3i or maybe the t5i. I don't know if I should spend $1000 vs. $600. I'm new to all of this. But I like taking scenery photos a lot(ex. Sun rises; the sky; landscapes; houses etc.). But I also like taking videos of people and the places I'm just around( to put a video together of course) . My question is what camera should I get? And what lenses in better: the 18-55 or 18-135? Thanks for reading
Every time I search for a specific photography video on TH-cam one of your videos comes up. Good work on the vids, thanks.
Nice. thanks and you are welcome :)
Yes - you have to sometimes half press the shutter to wake the communication between lens and camera but it does allow it.
3 years later and STILL very relevant and reasonable information. Thanks much.
Yeah but 18-135 still looks great when i look back at my old videos so its still good
I see two points favoring the 18-135: The 18-135 in the kit is 200 bucks cheaper than bought separately, while the 18-55 is only 100 bucks cheaper (although about the same in percentage). Also, since both lenses have a f/3.5-5.6 aperture, i suppose the 18-135 at 55 is faster than the 18-55 at 55. It makes sense to me since it is 9 mm larger in diameter, so it gathers more light. But, how much of a difference does it make? 2/3 of an f-stop, at best?
And i see one point in favor of the 18-55: it can focus closer than the 18-135 (.25 m against .39 m). But, how useful is this extra close-focus ability?
HI Kellie, It is a tough call. The 18-135 STM is really nice to always have some zoom with you, no lens switching necessary and the 55-250 isn't a great lens but it does get you closer. So - convenience of one lens or a little more zoom? Personally I would go for the 18-135 STM and look at buying the 55-250 used on Amazon later, it sells for $110 or so. Also make sure Amazon can't beat BestBuy prices, I just added a link under video, Amazon is providing free SD card and bag.
Hi - you can certainly use your lens but when focusing it will make noise and not be as smooth as the STM lenses - which means it isn't really acceptable for video work unless you manually focus - which isn't as bad as it sounds.
it shouldn't make any sound when you are using it but when moving it around some there is a bit of noise that comes from the gyroscopes.
Hi - Because you said video I really think the T4i with 18-135 STM is your best choice. It gives you a nice package with a convenient lens that does an excellent job of silent auto focusing. If you went with the T3i, your image and video quality would be the same but you would need to manually focus for your videos and it doesn't sound like that's the kind of video you are shooting. Also you'd miss out on touchscreen and stereo mic.
There is a good 70-300 USM IS lens. selling new for $650, was as low as $499 this year. But you can get new/refurb versions for under $400.
Oh I agree- just pointing out some value f/2.8 lenses. There are also prime lenses that can be useful like the 50 f/1.4 :) Don't go for the big do it all lenses, that is valuing convenience over image quality.
Thanks, glad you are finding it all useful. Are all these sports outdoors? One of the best options is the 85 f/1.8 - a fast lens with a great focal length for the distances you mention. Another option is the 70-200 f/4. But if this is all outdoors you may find the 18-135 to do the trick. Certainly give it a try first. Always happy to answer more questions and make sure you pop over to my facebook, I have a sweet giveaway happening right now.
If you plan to buy 700D or any rebel canon you can get the twin lens deal were you get the 18-55mm and also the 55-250mm zoom lens then you will have best of both worlds
+Shayne Sim yes! It's a great deal. We love that 55-250
Really great kit lens for sure.
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With the 70D you will notice no focus speed differences between the two lenses and I would stick with the 24-105. The only benefit from the STM is silent autofocus during video, the 24-105 is going to make some noise that the onboard mic will pick up. And in answer to #2 still stick with 24-105 and save for a good wide angle like the Tokina 11-16 f/2.8 - though you can use the 18-55 in the meantime.
It is better. Noticeably better? Probably only in occasional images. It doesn't sound like you need the extra range so you may be better off with the 18-135 and you can start saving for a nicer zoom like the 70-300 IS USM.
It depends on the detail level of the jewelry. I know people use the 18-55 and the 18-135 for jewelry photos so you may find that it works well for you too. And outside photos are just fine with the 18-55.
hi Amanda - the new 55-250 looks to be good but still in the realm of budget zoom. And it's not going to look great compared to the awesome sigma 18-35. What about the Canon 70-200 f/4 L? That would be on par with the quality and give you a great range with just a small gap.
I am not sure what you are asking. The 18-135 STM does fit on the T4i and the t5i. Any of the Canon rebels in the last 10 years really.
Is the video quality better on 18-135mm STM or is it the same as 18-55mm STM but you get more zoom with the 135mm?
I don't think so.The quality depends on the settings you use I use the 135mm lens and sometimes the long range is really valuable. Remember most of these cameras are cropped sensor cams for the 135mm focal length is somewhat closer to 216mm. Thats a decent tele lens range
hi Johan - The words "nice & sharp" don't go well with the Sigma 18-200 :( It is a very convenient lens but slow(both in focus and aperture) and just not as sharp as I would like to see. You could certainly try/borrow and see if it works for you - but I think you should buy the 18-55 kit too. happy to answer more questions.
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Inside during the reception though I would really want a lens that did better in low light f/2.8 or maybe even primes. Just my two cents.
Very surprised to hear that the original kit lenses out perform the 17-85! I have not see that- feel free to pass along some links. The newer 18-135 STM is improved, It is a very good lens overall - just wish there was a distance scale and it had real full time manual.
Are they the same in terms of image quality?
70D with 18-55mm STM + 55-250mm STM is going for the same as the 70D with 18-135mm STM. I'm not sure which to get. The 18-135 would make things really convenient and snappy, but the 250mm's extra zoom would also be useful...
Tamron 28-75 f/2.8 or the Sigma 17-50 f/2.8 or the sigma 17-70 f/2.8 - 4 (it is only f/4 after 55- all very strong value lenses)
Thanks! I am always happy to answer questions.
Hello. Is the 18-135mm kit lens the same as the one sold separately on Canon.com? They have it bundled on Amazon, so if they are both the exact same lens I think I will do the 18-135mm. Are there other lenses that are 18-135 that is better than the kit?
Yes, in those cases you should leave it on auto focus. just realize that it will always take a second or two.. or three to refocus if those distances between you and the other people are different.
18-135 is about 7.5x zoom, so not as much as you are used to. I would not upgrade from 18-55 IS to 18-55 IS STM, unless you plan on doing lots of video and want to use the auto focus. The 18-135 STM is a very nice lens and remember a cheap way to zoom is to crop the images after. But if you really want zoom you can add the 55-250, it is an ok zoom lens, much better is the 70-300 IS USM, but it is also lots more expensive.
T4i and T5i are identical in most respects - get whichever you can find cheaper but T4i has been discontinued since so similar to T5i. For fisheye get Rokinon - manual focus only but excellent quality.
There are rules about focal length and shutter speed - the longer your focal length the faster your shutter speed needs to be - also some lenses (most that you start with) offer variable aperture - the aperture gets smaller and lets in less light as you zoom. so technically at 100 you will need more light with the 18-135 BUT that's still to compare because the 18-55 doesn't even go to 100. Between 18-55 on both lenses you would not be able to tell the difference between photos.
Awesome. Don't hesitate to ask questions.
As always a very good and fair review,. I got the 18-135 with my 7D mk II and for the upper part of its range from 35m to 120 it serves a purpose but in all honesty I rarely shoot in that range. As you say it's a starter lens, but Canon are putting it as a kit on a camera that, to me, isn't a starter camera.
I think used is fine- just be wary of prices that seem to good to be true, these higher quality lenses hold their resale value and you probably will only end up saving $100 - $200 max, which isn't insignificant but not a huge savings either.
Won't 18-135 STM will do what a 18-55 STM can do because it covers this range too + gives addition of from 56-135 ? or there will be difference in quality too?
I mostly want to shoot wedding portraits close ups and ofcourse good video of my family function
If I have a 24-105 L, should I get 18-135 (vs 18-55 when I buy 70D)?
1) for video would I notice a huge difference between the two as far as focus? I mean for autofocus? If I plan on manual focusing should I stick with 24-105?
2) for photography would I have reason to use the 18-135 for general photography/walkaround if I have the 24-105? Or should I just get the 18-55 for the wide end when needed.
Love your videos!
Yes 85 is a longer focal length. doesn't make it better or worse - just different. 85 is great for tight portraits and head shots. 40 is a more versatile lens that can do portrait fine and is wider so it is more versatile.
All depends on how friendly the wildlife is. 135 is a decent amount of zoom but it isn't enough if you are photographing birds or other smaller wildlife that is shy.
I do think for most people the 18-135 STM is the better choice.
Thank you so much for this video! I just purchased the Cannon EOS 70d 18-55mm, and I'm looking forward to using it.
I'm really torn which one to get. I think my deciding factor will be if one has superior image quality to the other. Can anyone give me their input on this?
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It is a nice lens, I have been very happy with both the new STM lenses. I haven't tested side by side with either of the lenses you mentioned, I hope to sometime soon.
Thank you for this quick comparison and your other reviews, which were very useful in helping me to decide which lens to get with my new T5i.
They are all outdoors and range from HS tennis matches to football games. I had a Sony A-300 in the past with a 55-300 mm zoom lens, but didn't really like it. I get the Canon tomorrow and want to play with for a while, so all of your videos have been a big help. I am still learning how to get the most from DSLR and use your work as teaching guides. I will keep you posted.
I have not - it is on my list and I hope to soon. I do have some videos shot in manual focus between the 650D and the D5200 in low light and on auto in good light - the 700D is identical in quality so those can help you make some decisions there. Send me a message on facebook and I will link you to the videos.
The 18-135 STM. I do have a video that talks about these two options but for most people I think the 18-135 STM is the better choice.
ok a STM lens is my next purchase THANK GOD, the noisy af is something that has driven me nuts since purchasing a canon
the 18-55 STM - NOT the old 18-55. Don't confuse the two. I concur with your statement about the old 18-55. The new STM version is silent.
I've got the 18-55 STM and I intend to use it to vlog my trip to Europe this coming summer. If I'm walking around and talking to people and not necessarily looking at the screen, shouldn't I leave the lens set to auto focus? I'll be pointing the camera at myself and then back at different people without checking the live view to manually focus all of the time.
Hey @Toby could you please do that comparison of 18-55mm and 18-135mm on a SL2. Please
Hi Currently I'm using both 18-55mm and 50mm 1.8f/l with Canon T7i
I want to upgrade my lens mainly for filming outfit videos and I'm so confused which one to go for. Can you please suggest a lens?
My budget is from $1000-$1500
Thanks 🙏🏻
I am also considering the T5i but am not sure which kit lens to get. Options are 18-55, 18-135, and perhaps adding the bundled 55-250 (from Best Buy). Will I notice much more zoom with the 55-250 (over the 18-135) and is it worth the extra money ($150) or should I save for a 300 lens? I am not and do not plan on becoming a professional photographer. I am a mom with 2 boys that play baseball, both pitchers and outfielders, and one also plays football (night games). Thanks for your advice!
It depends if you want the 18-55 STM or the 18-135 STM. If you just want 18-55 STM then yes it makes most sense to get the T5i. Links under the video lead to best prices. Thanks!
Towards the end you said that for professional video they aren't so good because you wouldn't want to use auto-focus, and then immediately followed that statement saying that they have a good manual focus. Is there a particular lens that you'd recommend for professional quality video for an interview or documentary? I'd be attaching said lens to a 700d, FYI.
A nice prime like the 50mm f/1.4 or a 35 or 30mm prime. All of those uses you mentioned above you won't be using focus after setting to the kit lenses are fine too but the primes I just listed give you that shallow depth of field look.
Hello. This video was made prior to the release of the STM version of the 55-250. How does the STM (silent focus) version of the 55-250 change your recommendation? I am very interested in the 70D and am now bouncing between the 18-55 IS-STM along with the 55-250 IS-STM (which I can purchase here in Thailand for $1050 as a kit), or the 18-135 IS-STM for the same money as the 2 lens kit. I am a rank amateur with interest in learning to become semi-pro. I am interested in both urban and nature still photography and observational videos in the same venues. I do not intend to upgrade lenses for some time as I learn photography.
***** 55-250 STM is a good lens - slightly better quality and focus is faster, smoother and silent. Otherwise the advice here is the same. I do think most are better off spliting between two lenses than just 18-135 STM
Just done a wedding yesterday, totally agree with the 18-135 would be a great length lens!
I had the 18-55 & 55-200. didn't have any use for the 55-200 and the 15-55 some just sometimes just a little too short.
I bought my SL2 body only and purchased the newer 24mm pancake for mostly street shooting. I added a refurb 18-135 STM on the cheap from Canon and am happy with the versatility and compactness of this rig. I will add another prime lens in the future because there is something visceral and more involved about using non-zoom lenses. The 18-135 (especially on a crop sensor) gives me more than enough range.
the 50 f/1.2? that is an amazing lens. You are talking about the $1200 lens? The 50 f/1.4 is more reasonably priced and still very good.
I came across this video today. When I purchased my Sl2 it came with the 18-55 STM. Recently I received as a gift the 18-135 STM. Can you think of any possible reason besides weight in the even of travel as to why I would need to keep the 18-55? Thx in advance!
I am buying T5i and debating if I should get 18-55 STM and 55-250 IS OR should I get 18-135 STM? As far as 18-55 range is one better than the other? How much better is 18-135 STM compare to 55-250 in 55-135 range? Camera will be used for general purpose and also a lot of car photography (most of it will be of moving cars shot from a moving car also and few of parked cars)
Thanks for your help and love your reviews. Very informative.
Looking for an opinion! If I get a 18-135 stm and a 55mm instead of a 18-135 with the 55mm, will I the 55mm do a lot more than the 18-55mm? Sorry, maybe this was a stupid question! But I was told I should get 55mm and a 18-135mm. I'm new to this and I would love to know anybodies thoughts and suggestions as I'm considering buying a Canon 80D and choose one of those 2 lenses as an option, plus the 55mm. I only want to shoot my family pictures and some road trips when possible. Any suggestions?
Get the 18-135 and a 50mm prime- those two lenses will be great for road trips and family photos.
I bought the T5i body only and am buying the 70d not sure which package yet. What are your thoughts throwing in the not yet released 55-250. I have sigma 1.8 18-35 so looking for a longer range not sure if I should get the 18-135 or wait on the 55-250.
I got 650d / 18-55 kit lens. Most of the times I will be shooting indoor like my kids photos, portraits, birthdays and in house functions, friends marriages and casual outside beach shots etc. I want better quality pictures (prof. touch)without using flash (as of now) and image quality should be better than point and shoot cameras otherwise no point in buying DSLR. What lens or lenses you would advice for me to buy immediately. I have budget but not very high, I can invest reasonable amount.
Even if you are manually focusing the STM lenses have a generally better quality than the previous models without the STM. It's a quality you can notice or I would not mention it. Out of the 2 lenses here the 18-135 is the better grab no matter what you're doing, even if you want to upgrade later the 18-135 will hold its value nicely and give you a good chunk of cash to put towards your next piece of glass !
For fashion work, you will love the 18-135, it will give you a nice 50-80mm range for all your editorial types of work, and at 135mm you will get some very pretty beauty shots as well as a much better bokeh (blurry backgrounds) to single out your subject.
Absolutely! I purchased an older canon without the STM and actually sent the whole thing back. While it took great photos, I wanted to capture video as well (new baby) and the constant *WEEEEERRR* *WEEERRR* during the videos was awful!
Hi, I'm looking to buy this camera for some music videos for youtube. Like music clips of live performances in my room/studio. That would be the main purpose of it. Some guitar video lessons and some music performances where I just place it on a tripod and use my Go Pro for wider angles. So my doubt is, should I buy a 18-55 STM + 55-250 STM bundle or just a 55-135 ?!
which quality is better?this 18-135 lens only responsible on zooming or on quality of photos and videos too?
Thanks for this video. So I am still not sure which lens is best. I am looking to record videos doing makeup tutorials mostly and some photos. Which would you recommend?
Was gonna do the 18-135mm however I went with the 24-105L Lens because i might upgrade later. did i make a right choice for that lens on a crop sensor?
thanks for your quick reply.. but is it worth buying a used one or would you wait and buy a new one?
im thinking to buy EOS 70D....... which lens should i buy 18-135mm or 18-55 & 55-250mm ? plz suggest
I'm planning to get the EOS 70D as well! I'm leaning towards the 18-55mm STM Lens because there is this bundle that also comes with the 55-250mm STM lens.It's also a relatively cheap bundle. I believe what Toby said at 3:33 does not apply with this camera because this camera has great auto-focus. Although it's your choice to decide, and Toby has made some great points in this video.
There is available of 55-250 STM Lens. Canon EF-S 55-250mm f/4-5.6 IS STM Lens and really cheaper than 18-135 Lens.
Thanks for the video. I am on my way to purchase my first DSLR and I have almost placed my bet on the Canon 700d. I wanted to know which option would make sense if I go for the kit option
Should I should go for the 18-55 STM and the 55-250 STM or should I go for the 18-135 STM and the 55-250 STM? I will add the 50mm STM 1.8 for the portraits later.
Cheers!
***** Watch 18-55 STM vs 18-135 STM - Quick Thoughts on Which Lens is Best for You! to help you decide.
CameraRec Toby I did watch the video and that is why asked the question. The 18-55,55-250 or 18-135,55-250 combo work?
I went for the 18-135 STM option because I got a good deal and I did not want to shuffle lenses between a shoot too quickly. I am not a professional and have photography as my hobby so I end up shooting family photos most of the time. I also got myself the 50 mm f/1.8 and have been using that more than the 18-135 STM, because I am shooting a lot of portraits lately.
Are both lenses "nice and crisp" ? And how about image stabilization for video? Thanks! (:
Thanks and thanks! Certainly let me know if you have questions after you get the camera in your hands.
The 17-85 is the best of the bunch. Gives you good autofocus with full time manual focus which is nice.
i would like to purchase a T6i with the 18-135mm lens. Im in an intermediate lever and would like to learn all the settings and have photography as my hobby. Is that lens good enough and a good camera as well to go around and take pictures of our beautiful world?! Thanks!
Oh and best prices for both cameras are linked under the video.
hey man , i just got the t4i yesterday with the 18-135 STM lense and I am so happy with it. your review just made my day, i was concerned about the lenses, but now I am sure i made a good decision. I am planning to use it for video even though I am not a professional video maker or photographer.. and well, I think I´ll use it until my budget increases or until I realize that the quality of this camera is not fitting my standars. for now, I does and incredible job for me.
Yes but it won;t make your camera continuously AF during video.
Hi! I want to upgrade from my current Canon G7x I'm using for all my videos on my channel (will continue using it for travel/vlogs etc, but I want a DSLR for my sit-down vlogs, outfit videos, beauty videos etc)... which of these would you recommend for me? I'm not wanting to do pro film making but do want my videos to be more pro in my area, if that makes sense! Thankyou :)
I don;t think i need the 18-135,,,no need for the zoom right now,,with that said would the 18-55 work well for an all around outside lens to take pictures outside and jewelry pictures,,or do i really need a macro lens for jewelry.
Thanks
Used 24-105L especially for filming!! Constant f/4 aperture and true full time manual focus makes that an easy decision :) And thank you!
Both lenses are crisp for their price points. Both offer IS which is helpful during video.
hey toby
what would you recommend.. buy a used 24-105 L or a 18-135 STM..
(I`m more into filming than taking pictures)
by the way you make awesome videos!
So, If I want to start with photography, and I'm obviously a beginner, but I do not plan to upgrade anytime soon, which one is better?
price has fallen in the used market. I just got the 18-135 is stm for $200. Plan to use it for outdoor video as a second angle camera. I also own the 18-55 is stm it came with my sl1.
If you are really interested in an STM lens I'd go for the 18-135, keep the 55-250 around for that extra 100mm. That's my suggestion.
Is the 18-55 lens good for food recipe videos. How do you set that up for those kinds of videos n photography?
Hi,
I am thinking to buy a DSLR. It comes with 2 options of lenses:
1. 18-140
2. both 18-55 and 55-200
Both these options costs the same.
Which one should I take? 1 single lens or two different lenses?
Great video! I'm happy to say that I am the proud owner of a t4i with an 18-135 STM! After months of watching your videos, I finally gave in! I basically learn everything from you haha. Thanks for all the help Toby, I look forward to more videos so I can continue learning :)
very informative video, i have a question am using i t5i with 18-55mm on a glidecam hd2000 but i have lots problems with focus my object , which lens are the best to used on a glidecam...
I'm planning to buy a 700d with an 18-55mm STM lens. for making videos mainly. I wanted the STM lens since manual focusing will be tough while holding the camera with a stabilizer. Please correct me if I am wrong or let me know if there is a better way. Thanks.
How does the canon 18-135 compare to Tamron lenses which are significantly cheaper?
Glad I could help. Let me know if you have any questions.
Good day. I have the 70D 18-135mm, but I'd like to get one that is f2.8 or better.
AND with a silent motor that is good to use for video.
I've not been able to find anything online, and wondering if you could help advice. Thanks!
PhotoRec Toby Hi Toby, with almost same amount of money should I get a 18-135 STM or a 18-55 STM + 50mm 1.8G. I mostly used it for travel and some portraits. THX
Albert Wong Get the 18-55 and 50mm f/1.8 (make sure you are talking about the Canon 50mm f/1.8 - G version is Nikon.)
Could it benefit to put 18-135 STM on my 60D canon
Hi, Thanks for review here. I have a doubt to be cleared, are these lenses good for landscape photography. please guide.
Thank you for this. I'm looking at both of these lenses right now and have been on the fence. Your views on these lenses has helped me make a decision. Great job Toby!
Q: I wanted to by a t3i or maybe the t5i. I don't know if I should spend $1000 vs. $600. I'm new to all of this. But I like taking scenery photos a lot(ex. Sun rises; the sky; landscapes; houses etc.). But I also like taking videos of people and the places I'm just around( to put a video together of course) . My question is what camera should I get? And what lenses in better: the 18-55 or 18-135? Thanks for reading
I have 18-55. and I want buy another one for outdoor shooting. what I should buy. can u help me please.