Intense Compatibility: Klein is Killing It Twice with Mini MODBoxes magic, passthrough ratchets...
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- amzn.to/3TK9xxs Intense Compatibility: Klein is Killing It Twice with Mini MODBoxes magic, passthrough ratchets and more!
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Thank you for this video! This is the single best Klein video helping me to make a decision on what I should get, I was a little overwhelmed into which ratcheting set up I wanted to get. I have a lot of regular screwdrivers and this whole pack out ratcheting set up is EXACTLY what I want especially when I have to entirely dismantle pieces for recycling or repurposing parts.
More proof Snap-on does not walk on water...
I asked a marine mechanic: They confirmed!
@@Heizenberg32I asked a Jewish carpenter. :)
...the auto techs will vociferously disagree with you (and I)!!
@@jarroyolawThe self awareness that they have been overpaying for everything for many years, is too much to face.
With so many high quality USA made tool brands it’s hard to justify snap on but proto has a lot made over seas now as well as SK. We need to support Wright as much as possible so they don’t betray us lol
We need just one innovation from Klein.
Klein, please invent metric bits and sockets!
Does Klein seriously not sell metric sockets? That was my one way to justify buying tools I already have another version of.
Don’t get me wrong - I am still lusting over that stack!
Yeah, no joke! I don't have much use for imperial for the projects I'm working. Seems silly to skip metric.
Likewise I want the whole system but need it in metric; oh well the search continues…
I am an engineer for a European company so I need metric as well since all the machines are built in Europe. Metric please! Wera and Wiha for now!
For the first time in my life a saw a Klien metric Allen key set at my local supply house
The boxes remind me of Systainers. Having the ability to access the box in the middle of a stack is so useful.
That is a great system Doc looking forward to seeing all of those sets
Klein may be going to a proprietary setup, but their modbox and inter-kit compatibility may drive me that direction for future drivers. They already have most of my electrical tool real estate in my toolbox, but besides that I only have 2 screwdrivers and a few utility knives.
Doc, your tool review/discussions are top notch!!
Doc, I'm just blown away with all the tools you have! You've got to show us your tool storage areas!😊
Very impressed by Klein with these ModBoxes, I already have a bunch of tools but I’m jonesing to get my hands on this…
I just left Lowes and Home Depot and I bought my $21.00 11&1 Klein Screw driver and I'm happy. I love the Klein mod boxes, I also looked @The Rigid tool box system and the Klein tool box systems. Klein has really did it. A great video brother.
Really cool backdrage setup up you created. May not be the super scientific way of doing it But genius it still shows levels of bsck drag . As always Doc great video.
Great video! Thank you for the reviews!
That's a cool ratchet driver, I wasn't too crazy about some of their earlier ones, same thing--just kind of big and clunky--but this one looks different. Thanks for showing it to us Doc!
I've been using that 1/4 inch passthrough set for a while now. I reach for it all the time.
I decided to go Toughbilt for my stacking toolboxes but I also have a lot of Klein tools. I love these boxes for keeping my tools organized.
I love these mini sets. I just wish Klein would move into the metric space. I understand why they don't, but it would be more helpful for me in the stuff I work on around the house and shed if these small socket kits were metric. I've been wanting a ratcheting screwdriver, and this new 11-in-1 has been at the top of my list. I'll probably still go with them, but it would be nice if there was a small metric socket kit for a be-all, end-all. I'm waiting to see what the new Icon mini kit looks like. I'll likely go with that unless it's more than a Wera Tool Check Plus.
Why do they not offer metric? It’s not like metric sockets will cannibalise their SAE sales.
@@firstmkb They have started just recently, but I think traditionally they've been focused on the electrical market and also had a lot of traction in the HVAC market with things like the flip sockets, and the majority of that from what I can tell is all SAE still, at least here in the US. Just a guess as a homeowner who has been following the tool industry for a couple years.
I honestly wonder if other through hole tools will connect to these, I think they might. I have a decent spline socket set from craftsman thats all through hole like this, it connects right up to the other through hole stuff I've seen
After i lubed mine and worn it in a bit, the back drag was lowered by about half to my untrained hand. Similar to my LTT screwdriver.
Its a tool Erector set! Remember those!
Picked up that pass thru socket set on sale a few months ago, big fan. I’ve got it stored in my truck EDC for now until I find a better use for it
Where did you get it, I can't find it anywhere.
sold me. ordered the screwdriver and the ratchet set is in cart. lol.
"Intense" compatibility?
Here's an example for you. I strongly support metricfication. I chose metric fasteners as often as I can.
But don't change my 1/4", 3/8", 1/2", etc. square drive socket wrenches.
Likewise, 4mm is the standard precision bit size. There is no excuse for Klein to make 3.5mm bits other than to screw up the market.
Just say know.
I have around 30 different sets of precision bits and it's a proper smorgasbord, even if they are all 4mm some fit some don't. I assume that it is just the nature of tolerances and variations in manufacturing. I personally keep sets together and rarely even try and cross between them.
I feel like Klein is always a step behind as far as quality,
I’ve started building up a whole Klein tool collection not just because the tools are great but the mod box design is excellent.
I was told from my electrical supply house (local) that all Klein tools are and will be made in the USA (besides all of the already made tools in the USA) told by Klein to my local electrical supply house and passed on to me so I will share to all concerned (that is every single tool) for your information. Hopes this helps.
Even ratchets? I think I would prefer they still make those in Taiwan
They make a ton of shit in Taiwan
@@dieselgoinhamTaiwan is better source than China.
Snap on is definitely going to knock off this entire setup! KLEIN KNOCKED IT OUT THE PARK WITH THESE SETS!
I'm pretty excited for that passthrough socket set. I've always thought they were interesting, but this is the first one I've seen that doesn't look incredibly bulky
So innovative & the price is right !
I love these through hole sockets but I've found that they're a lot easier to break than regular square drive sockets. I've broken a few of them on things I was surprised by
Been really interested in all of these MOD Box sets KT is coming out with. The boxes themselves look interesting and I get your point about the tools pulling you into the packaging system. But for those who are into other "packout" systems, I'm wondering if the Etsy community will be able to 3D print adapters to attach these to other systems? Is it even feasible or too dissimilar?
Klein makes some nice screwdrivers and I have many. I just picked up the new 11-piece screwdriver (32500-HDRT) and 1/4" socket set (65300) for a general everyday use set. I'm passing on the 3/8" socket set because...
I think they really missed the mark and opportunity to make the 1/4" and 3/8" sets compatible with other manufacture's pass thru sets (GearWrench, Crescent, etc.). It would have been great that they could accept those others to expand use and ability to add metric sizes. They are very similar but are sized slightly different.
Klein needs to make a holders for the MODBox that permits you to snap on and carry the 11-piece screwdriver, so the set stays together. Many people, myself included, buy them to use together.
I'll throw those in my pack out thank you very much.
Now I need Klein to make a bacho like crescent wrench(with pipe wrench teeth on the other side with the klein proprietary pass- thru socket on the other end. Crescent has something similar and with a 1/2, 3/8 adapter it has been a game changer for me as a backup ratchet when I am at work.
Snap on sockets are regular flank drive and flank drive plus.
Pass thru is funny. Works in few occasions. Get them nuts there by hand then wrench finishes it up.
Typing this on a Saturday, I'm glad I have time to re-visit their 11-in-1 (32500 HD non-ratchet version) bought 4 months ago and tossed into the drawer after one use. Perhaps I did not spend enough time as a child with my Lego set, but there's a learning curve. I did not appreciate the factory grease (without it, will this thing corrode?? ) and how long it took to assemble whatever bit I was trying to assemble at the time.
I clicked on this older video because of a recent MODBox video. I'm interested in the kits and desperately need to get away from large toolboxes filled with sockets and wrenches I can never locate no matter what divider system I buy into. This system might be my ticket off the merry-go-round, but I'm not thrilled with the prospect having everything together but taking a long time to put together.
How hard is it to coax the inside trays out of those boxes?
I could see cutting/printing custom liners for application-specific kits. You kind of stumbled into demonstrating the problem with such a modular system: it's easy to misplace the part you're after. A kit with a bright open space for each item makes it harder to just leave one in the dirt or the engine bay.
Very cool system. The sockets might be due to chrome coating but I am not totally sure.
In Canada Home Depot is only offering an old selection of klein tools no mod box stuff no new tool offerings. We used to have lowes in Canada but all the stores turned into Rona+ and have only old lowes tool offerings so they new got any klein tools only ideal tools. Unfortunately the only way to get the good klein stuff in Canada is to drive to the states and go to Lowes or to order from electrical suppliers or online tool suppliers. I really would like to see klein have great offerings at stores in Canada that you can go see all the tools
we get the shit end on most things here
Been a mechanic for 45 years and have never been a fan of Snap-On products. Just recently bought a few new Klein tools and like them.
Doc I think it's fair to say that the klein adapter male-to-female you're referencing here is comparable enough to some bicycle cranks to call it a spline drive. It may be proprietary but it should NOT be patentable in my opinion.
I have a small Gear Wrench set with this drive, had it for years.
Interesting system. Besides pass through is there any other advantage over going with the Klein 7 in 1 impact flip bits instead? Can also be driven multiple ways and hex isn’t proprietary. Only disadvantage I’m seeing so far is that you loose pass through.
>that ratcheting screwdriver handle
*neuron activation meme*
Is this what its like to be stuck in the snapon truck...
Doc any chance you can put the links to all of the stuff you show in the description? I use your channel to find all of my shopping needs haha
The only problem I have is that all these tools seem to be too heavy for what they are. I understand the impact aspect, but weight is important to me
Love it. 👍👍
Do you know if is coming out with a complete metric socket set ?
If you drill a 1/2 hole in the bottom, you make a pass thru nut driver!
Klien needs to make metric 😭
They have started dude. Hold on.
@@TuffHtKingswood cannot freaking wait
They do now.. just got my set .. imperial and metri. Flip deep sockets
@@coreybolt1985 7mm?
🙏❤️ Love from Scotland ❤️🙏
I checked Home Depot and Lowe's, neither have these sets listed. Amazon only has one type. Links?
Same
The ratchet for the passthrough is trash after a month. Keeps locking up and have to bang it on something to free it up. Wish I could use it more because It works great in panels.
If only you can find these. Having a hard time finding them at lowe s or any other place
Where did you buy these? I am having trouble finding the ratchet wrench sets, also did the Klein 32500HDRT come in a mod box? I found the driver but doesn’t come in any type of case.
Where did you get the Klein pass through ratchet kit?! I can't find it anywhere!
Same
Are these passthrough sockets compatible with the gear wrench/crescent ones? No reason this couldn’t be a standard like square drive.
I have soooo many since they are only sold in a complete set.
Hopefully Klein will sell single sockets as the whole plan goes to shit if you lose one & have everything except what you actually need.
Umm… what’s the part number for that compatible ratchet set. I can’t find it.
Can you post links as to where to get these mini modbox kits?
Crescents been making pass through sockets like this for about 10 yrs.
I have that screwdriver, by far the best one I've ever owned.
The Phillips #2 broke on my 3200hd 11-in- 1 after only 2 months. I couldn't find the exact replacement on their website. They only had the non impact rated 11-in-1 bits which have different bits types paired together. Any advice on where to find them?
on the snap-on SDDD101. instead of the torx bits use 4 different straight screwdriver bits and 4 different phillips bits. 8 screwdrivers in 1. out it in your back pocket have a good day
I’m positive my beloved snap on 1/4” soft grip ratchet can walk on water. I know because the salesman told me so😉
That looks very interesting, but I have a lot of Wiha 4mm bits. That 3.5mm decision by Klein is giving me huge negative stimulus. So not interested in another bit standard 0.5mm off what I already have.
A solution without a problem.
Am I missing it? I can’t find that bigger ratchet set anywhere online.
I would like to see a drop test on these plastic ModBoxes.............
Klein just needs to make a square handle so it does not roll away, off your bench or whatever. However, I love their quality.
Klein must be forever missing them pesky 10mm sockets
I like it 😀
the design is brilliant but i hate fumbling around with so many different parts to get going
Forgive my ignorance, my question is about that KT-P2 bit from that original modbox. That bit being tapered, couldn't one simply grind the tip down until you hit the proper size? I only ask because it seems a simple solution, although i do understand that wasn't the purpose of this video.
What set(s) are at 4:18? Looks like a 32934 and ?
I was an electrician for over 40 years. Klein Tools were the go-to tools for us electricians. I'm retired now, but I wish I had these Klein Tools when I was still working!! They are fantastic!!
So I watched this video having recently purchased the pass through ratchet set and thought the 11 in 1 impact matched drive would be a great addition. Followed the link from the video and ordered one off Amazon. Just received it and they are not compatible? The extension shaft is too big to fit into the driver handle. What am I missing?
Did you get the ratcheting 11-in-1 handle?
@@lastbesttoolactually ordered it from Amazon using the link in the video.
My mistake. I included the wrong link. Email me a shipping address and I'll send you mine for your troubles. Sorry about that.
@@lastbesttool actually it was me not paying attention. I have the 3/8 larger pass through ratchet I just saw (and purchased) the smaller passthrough 1/4 drive set and realized that was the extension you had shown... All good, love these! Thank you.
I don’t see these boxes for sale anywhere?
Funny thing, no homeowner will ever need a pass thru driver. I’ve worked on cars, houses and forklifts. I’ve only ever come across a need for a pass thru drive twice in 40 years.
That’s a good point.. very useful in commercial and industrial construction though
Appears like you will spend more time rummaging through the plethora of boxes just to find the "right" combination NTY I don't have that much time to waste!!!
Terry, the triple exclamation points make it unmistakably evident that you are a no nonsense, taking care of business sort of guy.
Something tells me that the comedic styling of Larry 'the cable guy' really resonates with you. Am I right? Idk, you could just as easily be the type that doesn't have time for that shit. Either way...
Git r Dunn, Tare!!!
But do they make mini mod boxes that are empty for storage?
Can you provide a retail link and Klein part numbers please?
that bolt is not a 14mm, its a grade 8 bolt, and you can tell by the hashes on the top. Metric fasteners are not graded with that type of identification. that is probably a 9/16 bolt.
Otherwise great video!
Why all the small sets of sockets? Why not just full sets ?
Wonder stuff
Where are they made? Taiwan?
My Klein multi nut driver would be OK if the rubber on the handle did not spin around the yellow plastic. It is worthless for anything more than hand tightened.
Need to use iso stamped tools, think only wiha is
I can't believe you're just getting that replacement from klein. I feel like you first mentioned that like 18 months ago.
I first mentioned it in December 2021.
Why is this system any different than a bit holding screwdriver and 1/4" dr. to 1/4" hex drive adapter? Pick any bit you like, slap it in the adapter.... Put any socket you like on the 1/4" dr.
Sure you can connect this system a bunch of different ways but in the end you are left a screwdriver or a ratchet, no?
I don't see the advantage of having to connect 4 different adapters to end up with a regular P2 screwdriver.
I think the pass through feature is the real selling point. They just made sure it’s workable with their other systems (which is smart). I don’t think they are pretending this will replace all your drivers or dedicated screw drivers.
Crescent tools did it 8yrs ago
The klein stuff is neat. But realistically all the boxes would get thrown out, the bits organized into holders, and the tools in a drawer or roll up bag. Space is a huge factor and as much as I have liked the cases tools have come with, it is not viable to take up so much area. Open one drawer and be done with it instead of locking and closing 5 tabs.
My first thought was also how much wasted space there was in those boxes... especially if space is at a premium like I imagine it would be for overlanding. I like the concept of the boxes interlocking and automatically locking, but perhaps the inserts could be torn out and replaced with something more efficient.
I agree with you. It looks really nifty and tempting. But after thinking about the efficiency, it’s just not space efficient enough for me to be happy.
I have the Harbor Freight flex head 1/4” ratchet kit. It’s very space efficient. Much more than these Mod Boxes. I have mine stored in a small Tom Bihn shoulder bag. The tools in these could fit but the cases wouldn’t.
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Why do they have to be made over seas though
9/16 = 14.2mm...The snap on socket obviously has loose tolerances.A 14 should not fit the 9/16...but also your 9/16 is probably not exact either. .563 is the decimal for 9/16....No socket is exact but it should be like 14.1...or 14.15mm.Nobody wants loose fitting sockets..Strange because snap-on is known for tight tolerances.I think the klein can afford to be tighter since in general it would not be seeing rusty fasteners like the snap-on would.
Sir, I don't have the money to buy more tools right now.
The problem occurred in December of 2021? It took Klein over 2 YEARS to replace the bit?
Klein ignored my request to replace a JS2 which was actually a PH2. I’m done with them.
I love Klein tools but their warranty sucks.
Too bad in Europe the klein tools are expensive
It’s nice until you lose half of those bits…
Metric metric metric already
Way too complicated. I have every bit I need for small fasteners in 1/4" insert and/or power bits, and a full set of nut drivers that also have a 1/4" impact style base. Any of these will work in any of my ratcheting screwdrivers, bit holders, micro ratchets, or drill/driver with (or without) a quick-change impact-style chuck. Or in my offset or right-angle or flex adapter if needed.
No need for any adapters, or multiple steps flipping various pieces around. Everything has the same base, and fits in any holder or driving tool, with only one step. And I'm not dependent on parts from any one company. I can substitute any component with a product from a different company.
As nifty as this is, it involves more fussing around and playing with gadgets, and requires carrying more crap around. It almost seems like a toy for people who like playing with tools, more than getting things done with those tools.