At this point I don't think its worth the effort. Chevy can't get the Z06 to the people that want the car. I know I've been trying since inception. If you can get the ZR1 the dealerships will probably try to charge a million bucks a copy. The dealers have lost their minds and Chevy refuses to manage it. I understand price and demand, but all this is doing is giving Chevy a black eye. I'm currently looking for a daily driver Chevy is the last marque I'll look at. I'll probably buy a Lincoln or a foreign which breaks my heart. I refuse to go top a dealer that tried raping me on the car of my dreams. Hell I'm 66 now and waited my entire life to buy this car. You know I did all the right things family first and all that.
You are contradicting yourself. You say that you understand supply and demand…and then complain about supply and demand. It’s honestly no different than when you are applying for a corporate executive position.
My heart will always belong to the one car that can actually be driven as a daily and still kill most supercars on the street. The Porsche 911/992 Turbo S! Flat out the best car ever made under $500,000.
@@TheAutoBelt Aesthetics are subjective of course. But a few of things are objectively true: The design is busy as all hell. Lines and angles to nowhere. High beltline. Chunky with a gaping mouth that looks like it was cut off with a cleaver. The rear end is more than busy. It’s chaotic. It is also the only Corvette in history that has even been called “ugly” by several major publications and writers.
@iowa61 Agree with you completely. Just because I love Italian design, doesn't mean I want an over-priced Italian car.( Ferrari or Lamborghini). But I do like their design. A lot of Americans agree with me.
@@markmiller6751 well there are great American designs too. The guy who led the design of the C8 is also the designer of the Pontiac Aztec. No. That’s not a joke.
The ZR1 is going to be a $500K car! EVERY dealer is going to mark them up and if you think you can get one at MSRP you're HIGH! The resellers are going to post these cars on day one of purchase and some sucker will too much money is going to pay it. On a good note, the regular ole Stingray is going to hit rock bottom and then I'll have one with a procharger.
At the end of the day it’s still a Chevy and not in the same category as the foreigns. If it prices out at more than $200k it will not be worth the wait.
Either way this isn't a corvette. Chevrolet should of made this car under a different name,and not ruined the iconic corvette name.say what you will,automatics are faster blah blah blah,its mid engine which makes it this or that. To have a rear engine,and not even offer a manual transmission is a total sht show.its not about faster its about so much more then that.
I don't know why they even bother with these car commercials nobody can afford anything right now it's stupid they're wasting more money advertising than doing something about it
Imo the c8 cuda been done alot better. I'm not hatin either bcuz I still love it but imo it cud have looked alot better. When u see a c8 on the road some look good and some look not good. And the dealers/chevy have made it almost impossible for a middle class car guy to afford a lt3 c8. So z06 and beyond is pretty much out of reach. Especially bcuz of the dealer markups. Z06 was selling for 200k 😅 with markups. So zr1 will be 300k+ corvette is a rich man's car now. Sad.
Hate to admit it.. but the dealerships are posing real problems for the new corvettes. Hopefully Gm does something way more intentional and impactful to curb the issue with dealers when the zr1 comes
Ok , the C8 Z06 is good , but not great . It's too low on torque. The 911 turbo s smokes it . Same with the Eray (which should have gotten the Z06 engine) is also slower than the 911 turbo s. If i get enough money to do it , I'd engine swap the Eray and give it tge 5.5 liter from the Z06.
Some facts are off.. the 911 doesn't smoke the Z06 , in fact it shares almost the same lap time record with the 911 even being 0.1 seconds faster.. and the eray easily beats that number at 2.5 seconds 0-60 mph
@TheAutoBelt I speak of quarter mile times only . I love drag races. The 911 beats them both in the quarter despite the Eray having a quicker zero to 60 , it falls off in mph quick.
Look a new corvette. Faster, fancier, harder to get, huge dealer markup, way too expensive, big surprise, still missing the days of corvette being the "everyday man's sports car", end of story, moving on now.
@@bossnutzThere was a surprisingly high percentage of C7 manuals sold in their final year, including one to my brother. Never a bad thing having choices.
Oh, America..... Always so much HYPE. So much hype and so little results. ALWAYS excited for the NEXT Corvette... Nobody is excited for the existing one. Because the NEXT one. Its gonna be sooo great. Its gonna be amazing. Finally, at last, Corvette is gonna be better than those European supercars. Its gonna smoke, own, embarrass all those fancy European cars... For my entire life I have heard this. Then it arrives, and turns out to NOT do any of these things, and then the hype is on again for the next, and the next, and the next version to hype up. Always cars that dont quite exist yet. Because they exist in a grey area of hype, copium, and patriotic wishful thinking and fairytales.
@@briandaniel931 youre not talking about me…have had and have 6 figure cars that will go any speed ypu want but high wealth is no metric for driving skills or judgement…unleishing a 250 mph car on public roads leads to dead people when they get hit…have driven 300 kpm in Germany and in a nascar track where they are set up for it but even there speeds are being reduced….my cessna went 220 mph in the sky…no one other than your self is endangered..ever seen a ferrari torn in 2 pieces? With dead people on the pavement on the freeway? I have and it is sickening….
Have to grin…. Have any of you actually driven on the autobahn? It’s just a regular freeway with traffic. Old time car nut n daily driver street racer, been 180mph racing a car at 3am on 190 in Dallas, TX. Even lived in Germany for a bit No different than the autobahn, need to pick your fight. During most times, Germany is like driving in traffic. No getting up to NASCAR speeds on a public road.😂
It's not about being able to use the power, it's about knowing you have such power to use. Btw it's the money if the persons who choose to buy it. Mind your own business.
Ok so I'm going to buy a fake copy or original? Hell no if it's American it should have its own DNA not a knock off euro bad copy. No thanks I will pass.
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At this point I don't think its worth the effort. Chevy can't get the Z06 to the people that want the car. I know I've been trying since inception. If you can get the ZR1 the dealerships will probably try to charge a million bucks a copy. The dealers have lost their minds and Chevy refuses to manage it. I understand price and demand, but all this is doing is giving Chevy a black eye. I'm currently looking for a daily driver Chevy is the last marque I'll look at. I'll probably buy a Lincoln or a foreign which breaks my heart. I refuse to go top a dealer that tried raping me on the car of my dreams. Hell I'm 66 now and waited my entire life to buy this car. You know I did all the right things family first and all that.
It's real sad, these things
I'm petty as hell when I see a dealer markup prices I go out of my way to leave them a shitty review.
You are contradicting yourself. You say that you understand supply and demand…and then complain about supply and demand. It’s honestly no different than when you are applying for a corporate executive position.
Build your own. ULTIMA RS..It will walk all over the new vets at half th price
The issue is not supply. The supply exists. The issue is the middleman that provides absolutely zero value.
Forget the zr1. Just wake me up when the zora comes out. That's the chevy endgame right there.
Lol.. Man, if that's how you feel
My father has a c6 zr1 . 2009 with 4.000 miles on it ! I call it the Ghost !
My heart will always belong to the one car that can actually be driven as a daily and still kill most supercars on the street. The Porsche 911/992 Turbo S! Flat out the best car ever made under $500,000.
100% true. The 992 911 turbo S is the greatest car in the world for daily driven super cars.
Buy American.German way overpriced, all products.
Number 1 Reason: Despite its extraordinary engineering and performance, it’s ugly as all hell. A design disaster.
Lol, you think so? 😅
@@TheAutoBelt Aesthetics are subjective of course. But a few of things are objectively true: The design is busy as all hell. Lines and angles to nowhere. High beltline. Chunky with a gaping mouth that looks like it was cut off with a cleaver. The rear end is more than busy. It’s chaotic. It is also the only Corvette in history that has even been called “ugly” by several major publications and writers.
@iowa61 Agree with you completely. Just because I love Italian design, doesn't mean I want an over-priced Italian car.( Ferrari or Lamborghini). But I do like their design. A lot of Americans agree with me.
@@markmiller6751 well there are great American designs too. The guy who led the design of the C8 is also the designer of the Pontiac Aztec. No. That’s not a joke.
@iowa61 Now I understand. He should stick to.pick.up.trucks.
Just another graceless, jagged design. One day, designers will come back to the tasteful, timeless lines.
The best looking Vette ever is the c7 zr1, followed by the c3.
It does look good, but I don't know many will agree it's the best looking 🌝
@TheAutoBelt the C7 ZR1 is the best looking corvette
@@Herecomesthethruth not even close.
Well I can’t afford $100,000 for a car so no, it may not be for me
It's just incredibly funny how this is actually the cheapest price point you can find for a supercar with exactly same specs
Like 300K at markup🤔🤣
Rendezvous with Destiny
If the ZR1 is electric at all it’s a 100% fail.
1000 HORSE POWERS ? DAMN A.I. Robot voice. Please give us back humans to talk
I KNOW DAM SO SAD THE HUMAN SPIRIT IS LEAVING
The ZR1 and Zora will be priced like the first and second Ford GT respectively or unfortunately depending on how your net worth is set up.
Recently reported quarter mile time of 8.64 seconds! THAT IS AMAZING!!!!!
I guess you're signing up for the wait👌
lol highly doubtful you’ll need 1,200 hp to achieve those numbers….
No shot. I have a couple of 1000 HP supercars and they are in the mid 9s.
The ZR1 is going to be a $500K car! EVERY dealer is going to mark them up and if you think you can get one at MSRP you're HIGH! The resellers are going to post these cars on day one of purchase and some sucker will too much money is going to pay it. On a good note, the regular ole Stingray is going to hit rock bottom and then I'll have one with a procharger.
Exactly. In a few years I'll snag a standard c8 and throw a supercharger, aftermarket aero and wheels on it.
Get a z06 revzani beast Corvette 1,000 hp & let the next guy settle for the zr1 just saying that may upset some people as the truth often does
Still the baddest sports car n america one badass bowtie 👍
Being $200k+ is why it’s not for me.
Reasonable
At the end of the day it’s still a Chevy and not in the same category as the foreigns. If it prices out at more than $200k it will not be worth the wait.
Well ..that's one way to look at it
Really makes me wonder how much the Zora will cost?
Hehe, yeah true 🥲
Ive seen the c8s sell for like 68,000 to 75,000 guess they are having a hard time selling them. ☝🏾🤣
Not a surprise really considering the overwhelming price tags
To me, I feel the c8's look a little lacking. It's decent, but could definitely improve.
Where exactly does it lack? There's really nothing out there that hits the specs it does at the price point.
Either way this isn't a corvette. Chevrolet should of made this car under a different name,and not ruined the iconic corvette name.say what you will,automatics are faster blah blah blah,its mid engine which makes it this or that. To have a rear engine,and not even offer a manual transmission is a total sht show.its not about faster its about so much more then that.
Gonna be way over priced, I will keep my c7 z06 and that will probably be the last vette I own and move on to something else.
Good thinking.. however, GM could better the situations surrounding the ZR1 when it comes
Ya that’s true but the dealers are scamming a lot of people. I checked on a 22 z06 and asked what the mark up was, guy said 40,000 I laughed at him.
@@kevinz0681 that's ridiculous, could get one a decent SUV even
@@kevinz0681There was not a ‘22 Z06. The C8 Z06 started in model year 2023.
Ya that’s true my bad, I just stopped looking at them when I was reading about the crazy markups. It’s was a 23.
I don't know why they even bother with these car commercials nobody can afford anything right now it's stupid they're wasting more money advertising than doing something about it
Imo the c8 cuda been done alot better. I'm not hatin either bcuz I still love it but imo it cud have looked alot better. When u see a c8 on the road some look good and some look not good. And the dealers/chevy have made it almost impossible for a middle class car guy to afford a lt3 c8. So z06 and beyond is pretty much out of reach. Especially bcuz of the dealer markups. Z06 was selling for 200k 😅 with markups. So zr1 will be 300k+ corvette is a rich man's car now. Sad.
Hate to admit it.. but the dealerships are posing real problems for the new corvettes. Hopefully Gm does something way more intentional and impactful to curb the issue with dealers when the zr1 comes
I am thinking the Vette is no longer the working man's supercar. To much $$$$. My c6 will do.
Sad, but it's understandable..
Ok , the C8 Z06 is good , but not great . It's too low on torque. The 911 turbo s smokes it . Same with the Eray (which should have gotten the Z06 engine) is also slower than the 911 turbo s. If i get enough money to do it , I'd engine swap the Eray and give it tge 5.5 liter from the Z06.
Some facts are off.. the 911 doesn't smoke the Z06 , in fact it shares almost the same lap time record with the 911 even being 0.1 seconds faster.. and the eray easily beats that number at 2.5 seconds 0-60 mph
@TheAutoBelt I speak of quarter mile times only . I love drag races. The 911 beats them both in the quarter despite the Eray having a quicker zero to 60 , it falls off in mph quick.
Look a new corvette. Faster, fancier, harder to get, huge dealer markup, way too expensive, big surprise, still missing the days of corvette being the "everyday man's sports car", end of story, moving on now.
tbh... I'm just waiting for this entire auto market to crash (we are not there yet). Then I will buy a C7 for about 30k
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It's not for me 'cause I can't afford it XD
That's fine.. can't break the bank Everytime 💪
It’s going to be a really cool looking overpriced V8 that gets beat by every Tesla Plaid with couple of car seats on the back seat 😡
Lol here we go with the tesla fan boy. Nobody cares about a tesla. We get it, it's a fast battery that looks like every other tesla..... yay.
I want to fit my 6'3" self in this Vehicle. One of my Favorite Exterior vehicles. But American vehicles are known to breakdown due to cheap parts.
Porsche dealers will welcome you in 😊😊😊😊
Does it come with a mid-life crisis?
The current build quality of gm is junk especially the c8 . Bonded plastics and an underwhelming drivetrain with no manual
Everyone wants a manual, literally no one actually buys a manual 😂
@@bossnutz all 7 of my cars are manual
yes but it does look like a Transformers toy so for 100k+ you can have a mid-life crisis in embarrassing style!
@@bossnutzThere was a surprisingly high percentage of C7 manuals sold in their final year, including one to my brother. Never a bad thing having choices.
Oh, America..... Always so much HYPE. So much hype and so little results. ALWAYS excited for the NEXT Corvette... Nobody is excited for the existing one. Because the NEXT one. Its gonna be sooo great. Its gonna be amazing. Finally, at last, Corvette is gonna be better than those European supercars. Its gonna smoke, own, embarrass all those fancy European cars... For my entire life I have heard this. Then it arrives, and turns out to NOT do any of these things, and then the hype is on again for the next, and the next, and the next version to hype up.
Always cars that dont quite exist yet. Because they exist in a grey area of hype, copium, and patriotic wishful thinking and fairytales.
Question …where on earth can you use this car? Answer : nowhere except the autobahn…$25,000 away. Grow up folks…and spend your skrilla wisely….
exactly!
If you have it to spend you have it if you don't you don't but it's not up to you to say how somebody's just spend their money and if it's wise or not
@@briandaniel931 youre not talking about me…have had and have 6 figure cars that will go any speed ypu want but high wealth is no metric for driving skills or judgement…unleishing a 250 mph car on public roads leads to dead people when they get hit…have driven 300 kpm in Germany and in a nascar track where they are set up for it but even there speeds are being reduced….my cessna went 220 mph in the sky…no one other than your self is endangered..ever seen a ferrari torn in 2 pieces? With dead people on the pavement on the freeway? I have and it is sickening….
Have to grin…. Have any of you actually driven on the autobahn? It’s just a regular freeway with traffic. Old time car nut n daily driver street racer, been 180mph racing a car at 3am on 190 in Dallas, TX. Even lived in Germany for a bit No different than the autobahn, need to pick your fight. During most times, Germany is like driving in traffic. No getting up to NASCAR speeds on a public road.😂
It's not about being able to use the power, it's about knowing you have such power to use.
Btw it's the money if the persons who choose to buy it. Mind your own business.
Fake ferrari
Lol Ferrari........the car you are told if you are allowed to buy and how to own by the manufacturer even after you pay for it.
Ok so I'm going to buy a fake copy or original? Hell no if it's American it should have its own DNA not a knock off euro bad copy. No thanks I will pass.
Not a fan of American vehicles
The C8 lost it's American style. It looks okay, but there's nothing about it that makes you think American hotrod
OVERRATED AND OVER PRICE.. TOY 👆
This guy is talon out his ass !