XP-PEN Artist24 Pro - Buy, wait, or get the Innovator16?

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  • @Saad_Drawings
    @Saad_Drawings 3 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    As an iPad artist for the past 3 years. Getting the xp pen artist 24 was a bless and with photoshop I can draw really loosely and have fun with such scale. Really happy with my purchase.

    • @jamieohjamie
      @jamieohjamie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Thinking about moving from iPad Pro to this, with the iPad Pro as a travel backup.

    • @dollplexus74
      @dollplexus74 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And u have a extra computer for the photoshoop

    • @User-nc1vp
      @User-nc1vp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How is it are they still good

    • @jamieohjamie
      @jamieohjamie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@User-nc1vp iPads are still good, but really expensive. The new pen went from $99 to $129, because of course it did.

    • @User-nc1vp
      @User-nc1vp 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sorry my question is not clear, how is yours xp-pen artist 24 now

  • @redandblack641
    @redandblack641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The art school I went to had Wacom reps come through on a regular basis. Back in 2017 I had an XP Pen Artist 10S with me when they were showing off their new, expensive tech, and I showed them the XP Pen tablet and asked them why they wouldn't make a screen tablet in the $200 range that the Artist 10S is in. Apparently it's because the build quality is terrible at the price range and that there seemed to be little interest in reusing their older tech to create new budget tablets. I was assured the tablet wouldn't last more than 2 years. It's lasted 3 years. Thank god Wacom's EMR patent expired. They're rightfully getting forced to compete in a market rather than running a monopoly.

    • @FloMoonYeah
      @FloMoonYeah 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      When they say it's gonna last 2 years. It's based on the worst case user scenario, someone who treats it as if it was some toy.
      That's why wacom tablet were so sturdy and solid. I say "were", cause I feel it's less true these days.

    • @redandblack641
      @redandblack641 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@FloMoonYeah That tablet survived a 20 MPH crash when I was riding a bike on black ice, and it's still fine. The tablet itself is sturdy, but the pen that came with it was flimsy and fell apart after a year of heavy use. Bought a replacement and noticed they used better materials at the same price, and it's going strong after 2 years. XP Pen seems to be the only Wacom competitor that's trying to improve durability.

    • @romantia8327
      @romantia8327 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@redandblack641 what do you think about huion?

    • @redandblack641
      @redandblack641 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@romantia8327 I haven't used them personally - a few friends and classmates have huion tablets and outside of one having a faulty pen that came with their tablet, there's been almost no issues 3-4 years after using them.

    • @TheAmazinRaven
      @TheAmazinRaven 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      My 10S is still working as well :D

  • @zatso4617
    @zatso4617 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    If being straight honest. i love when you are doing a commentary and show from this POV. I mean, showing the display and how you hand moves, how you draw.
    Literally shows how the hand is used to it. Oh and the review is really great.

  • @kennynyc15153
    @kennynyc15153 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    gettin mine tomorrow ,,1st time ever getting into digital art :) gonna be inspiring to star with along watching vids like yours : tnks

  • @Drankeranker
    @Drankeranker 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great video Trent :) I used a wacom tablet for both my school time and the first 3 years of work in the industry. Last year I wanted to switch to a screen and stumbled on XP-Pen and the low money bar for the 16” made it an easy decision, and it's awesome, drawing a lot faster now and making fewer mistakes, only thing is the small size/resolution, I am use to my 32” 4k with full overview of all my layers, brushes and color wheel. I can only see 4 layers at a time on the 16” with just my secelect brush, so after a year of getting used to drawing on a screen I wanted to upgrade and glad to hear the 24 is great, hope it goes on sale for black friday.

  • @raymelon107
    @raymelon107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I have the xppen 15.6 and it’s amazing these drawing tablets keep getting better and better

  • @lefunghi6151
    @lefunghi6151 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Been running the iPad pro for years now, even upgraded from the old to a newer Pro in 2019. But now I am finally hitting the limits of it’s capability’s, mainly for print artworks that need higher pixel counts. The fact that “cheaper” brands have come such a long way in the time I used the iPad is fantastic to me.
    Been eyeing the 24 Pro for a bit now, thanks for the fantastic review!

  • @ArtwithAmarBrisco
    @ArtwithAmarBrisco 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I am with you on the large screen because I am a 50 something. I really like the XP pen brand as well. I have two of them.

    • @winuxyasa8328
      @winuxyasa8328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I am too

    • @jeffreyhunt1220
      @jeffreyhunt1220 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Im 46 and have been using an intuos. Really love it but hoping this is easier on the eyes. Playing with my brightness too. I think I burn my eyes with it being too bright. Lol

  • @adonayghebray7180
    @adonayghebray7180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Bought this display 2 weeks back and I must say its a great buy for the money, screen looks crisp, side buttons make drawing a lot smoother of a process and the 2 side dials are great for animation.

    • @kincsobalint5932
      @kincsobalint5932 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Does it still work well?
      I hear a lot of complaints about this brand's tablets having a short lifespan so im kinda scared to buy one:/

    • @adonayghebray7180
      @adonayghebray7180 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kincsobalint5932 mine lasted till now and is still strong

    • @kincsobalint5932
      @kincsobalint5932 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@adonayghebray7180 thank you:)

  • @woalium
    @woalium 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I finally got around to taking the dive and buying a propper tablet and with your advice I picked an XP pen and Im loving it so far

    • @pencilkarate1713
      @pencilkarate1713 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm very tempted to get one but I'm concerned that my back will hurt from leaning over it, does it mess with your posture at all?

    • @Chejov1214
      @Chejov1214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pencilkarate1713 you have a point there .. I did some research on this (coz a friends -an artist too- had back and neck pain because of a wrong posture .. while working with her cintiq 22 ) if memory don't fail me I bet was adam duff -aka lucid pixel another great artist and youtuber .. who did a vid about this topic .. working with a tablet seems the best option to have a good posture .. but regarding a tablet monitor .. from what I found about this is to sit straight with a good chair ..and you have to be close to the tablet monitor ..( closer not 10 cm closer but closer enough to be comfortable to draw on .. and this tablet monitor need to be around your eye level some folks buy an ergotron arm .. some like me build an easel.. with wood I have my cintiq companion on it .. to sum up basically you need to be sitting comfortable looking on front maybe slightly with your head down a bit .. (I mean you don't have to be a robot xD) relaxed comfortable .. looking front your monitor near you ..your elbows over the table hands over the tablet monitor .. if IM wrong .. guy's .Mr. Trent .. anyone feel free to correct me .. from what I heard and saw .. looking down having a monitor like a piece of paper on a table .. its the best way to inflict yourself an injury in a short term or in the long run .

    • @Chejov1214
      @Chejov1214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and IM also on the fence looking to buy something bigger Im soo fed up with the small 13 inch companion 2 -____-u

    • @Piccolololmao
      @Piccolololmao 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Im gonna wait for 2 more generations... I feel like it's almost there but isnt. I tried a 15.6 pro and a cintiq pro.. still way different. I'm also already used to my intuos pro.

    • @Chejov1214
      @Chejov1214 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Piccolololmao Im curious .. which xppen tablet monitor you tried ? The 24 model and the 16 ‘’innovator’’. This two have new pen .. but anyways ..its cool u have the chance to try both brands . Wacom pro,pen 2 feels better then ?

  • @LuckykyunArt
    @LuckykyunArt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    I heard a lot of good reviews on huion as well but I am currently using my XPPEN Artist 15.6 Pro for year and a half now and still working very fine! Though I always don't like the screeching problem sometimes but working on it for a long time figure out how to get rid of it.
    The best feeling is of the pen when is if the nib was new.

  • @dragonscurse2008
    @dragonscurse2008 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    love this tablet, want one so bad, love the size and the visual graphic 2K, tried to get one to review but i'm not a professional by any means but to learn and try it out as i do draw and love you tube channels to show me how to better and better, thank you...

  • @dejvidpasieka4817
    @dejvidpasieka4817 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey man, great review. I'm glad you gave us advice about how heavy and bulky this thing is.

  • @DwayneVance
    @DwayneVance 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great stuff man. Its nice to see quality competitors to WACOM coming out.

  • @drawwithclawsarturoa.6772
    @drawwithclawsarturoa.6772 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great review man and yes I am about to buy one of those two products. But honestly I don't see big difference on the tech aspects other than the hot keys and the bigger display.

  • @modularmotel
    @modularmotel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great communicator, love your style, oh and the art, while listening, whaaat!! Loved the video thanks man

  • @tahaesat5404
    @tahaesat5404 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Trent, I'm glad to hear your honest opinion about this tablet as I was looking to buy one. About the parallax bit, I get what you're saying but it doesn't mean the offset of the pen and cursor, it means the gap between the drawing surface and the actual screen underneath. Something like the Wacom cintiq 22 would have a wider gap between, whereas this particular one has way less gap (parallax).

    • @PhantomGanhdi
      @PhantomGanhdi 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You’re missing two big points. First, you’re wrong about parallax to a degree. Parallax DOES mean the offset of the pen to a point; it is the byproduct of parallax/the screen having space between the drawing surface.
      What is Parallax? It is the gap between the drawing surface & screen. Okay, why tf does that matter lol? Because it causes the physical pen you’re holding & the digital cursor to be offset.
      These newer tablets are getting rid of parallax so that the screens can be closer & so that the cursor offset will be gone. That’s the key, parallax (the screen having a gap) causes the pen cursor to be offset.
      So now going back to Trent saying he’s never experienced Parallax & then saying that he likes the pen cursor to be offset from the actual pen so he can see the drawing surface; he is unknowingly or knowingly creating his own parallax/the side effect that parallax has which is cursor offset.
      Screens with parallax are irrelevant if you for instance are using a mouse because you aren’t drawing directly on top of the screen. It’s only relevant when you’re using a pen digitizer because then you’ll see the cursor offset that it is causing as
      a byproduct of the screen having a gap.

  • @frejazz2
    @frejazz2 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Huion Kamvas 22 and 22 Plus is also really good for the price. Great review!

  • @MonsterHobbieShow
    @MonsterHobbieShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I used to have a cintiq 24HD and a Bosto 22HD (I had to leave them both behind when I had to flee my country last year), and I was only able to get an XP Pen 15.6" Pro and was afraid of it's quality due to the low price but honestly even though the size is too small for me it is a really great product and brand, is not a Ferrari but I wouldn't put is as a Honda, it does feels more like a brand new Camaro or at least a Mustang, I'm looking forward buying a 22" or 24" from XP-Pen at some point in the future.
    I do have a problem with the 15.6" though, when I work at a zoom of less than 50% to see more of the page the strokes are super jaggy, it doesn't seem to happen at 25% but at 33/35% it seem to have the problem, I thought it was only on Clip Studio but it also happens on Paint Storm Studio.

  • @Kwertos
    @Kwertos 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I bought one of these on their anniversary sale and had to return it. The display wasn't working with the USB-C cable (only started functioning with USB + HDMI), and after restarting my PC the pen/tablet functionality stopped working from there onward - it was just a very heavy and expensive monitor. There was also a pretty noticeable scratch on the screen out of the box too which was a shame. Thankfully, their support was really good and after some troubleshooting gave me a refund and even covered the postage costs to send back to them. I might try one again from them in the future but i'm sticking to intuos3 and ipad pro for now :)

    • @itodeita
      @itodeita 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I bought my Artist 24 Pro about two months ago and hooked it up to my iMAC 27, i5, 2020. I ordered it from the manufacturer; it arrived from China in about 2+ weeks. It was in transit then customs in LA and then finally delivered. The packaging was intact and the unit also. Not a scratch, nothing missing including the xtra glove which I ordered but was never was charged for it, thank you XP-Pen. It booted up, installed the drivers (use the TH-cam installation instructions) and it's been working fine ever since. Even though I have Adobe programs, Blender, etc..., I chose ArtRage with my bundle and it's the only program I've used thus yet. I'm closing in to my retirement age and I plan to spend many hours using this setup. There's no doubt in my mind that my Apple teamed up with my XP-Pen are a quality match for me to enjoy for many years to come. I enjoy technology as I worked all my life in this field and I am amazed by the performance of the Artist 24 Pro. I use Apple's Magic Track 2 and Magic mouse together with the programmable keys and wheels without a glitch. The drivers are up to speed with Apple's current Catalina iOS as of Oct. 2020. Thank you XP-Pen for such a wonderful product and customer support.

  • @Myselfsama
    @Myselfsama 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Hi Trent, I was wondering if you could speak about the build quality of this tablet compared to other pro tablets such as the Wacom, 27 QHD or 32"? Fantastic video and review by the way.

  • @tedsmall5360
    @tedsmall5360 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Honest Trent, speaking truth to power!! Thank you so much for that, we need it

  • @StudioDomDesigns
    @StudioDomDesigns 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey, Trent!
    Thank you very much for your excellent review.
    I have been following XP-PEN and I am impressed with all the products, including the XP-PEN artist 24 Pro.
    Honestly, I believe that it is important to support these new companies and always have the option for good types of equipment and for lower prices.
    #XPPENTheBest
    #SupportWhoSupportYouXPPEN

  • @rindos-mom
    @rindos-mom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I draw on my 13" Surface Pro and was just looking to upgrade to a larger screen for my main workspace. This looks great!

    • @littleripper312
      @littleripper312 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Even a 16 inch will feel a lot better space wise. I used to use the surface pro and one downgrade you will experience is the surface has zero paralax where as these screens have a little. Also you cant zoom with your fingers but the wheels help with that. It took me a while to adjust after the surface but overall the monitors are better in my opinion because you can use a PC with a nice graphics card and the space is sooo nice.

  • @kinn11
    @kinn11 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've been using a pro-12 for the past few years, and sometimes the lag can be fixed by toggling raw input in your drawing appliaction. it tends to work far better after that

  • @sto1vall
    @sto1vall 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Could you share your thoughts on when to or if to switch from a drawing tablet to a display? I have a tablet and iPad combo. But getting the display just seems like overkill currently. More of a want than need.
    Maybe elaborate more on your thought process.

  • @user-xw3hv3sn7s
    @user-xw3hv3sn7s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    thanks for vids, dude!

  • @cannablizcanabliz5433
    @cannablizcanabliz5433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The stand is awesome to be honest but after more than a year with my 22 PRO i started having problems with the connections on the back be cause as you change the position of the stand (angle) it started a "material fatigue" problem with the connections on the back where now sometimes it disconnects and all the cables are plugged in, connection comes back after I move a little the connections so now I had to add a cable holder stuck with glue and use a "cable tie" (zip tie) on the back.
    If I ever buy another one I'll do my cable holder with glue thingy right away or try not to change the angle of the stand.
    Also I recommend to change the tips more often than normal to avoid scratches on the protecting film which has no replacement from XP-PEN.

  • @daviedood2503
    @daviedood2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Trent! Hey man I got that xp-pen 13 incher about a year or so ago per your older video. Man THAT THING is soooo awesome. It's made my life so much better. I love it over that bamboo pen and touch thing I had. I was hesitant at first bc it was like 300 bucks, but I jumped and haven't regretted it. Glad I found your video. The pro comes with MORE buttons than the one I got, but hey 8 buttons are good enough for me. 😂

    • @daviedood2503
      @daviedood2503 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Forgot to add, that I can watch 2k videos on TH-cam as well.. Surprised me, figured I can just do 1080p

  • @PatrickCharpenet
    @PatrickCharpenet 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great piece, Trent!

  • @jayta906
    @jayta906 3 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    LOL i love your attitude, and that you dont care about offending xppen or wacom. You can feel it in your voice. Great review, love the usbc feature! Thats gold

  • @TheHotaru93
    @TheHotaru93 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Haven't you tried the Huion 24 pro? It is said to be identical to this one but with better glass (textured and with less parallax)

  • @cyberlevelvision
    @cyberlevelvision 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Already bought the innovator 16 for my Mac and I'm thinking of purchasing the 24 Pro as well. Do you know if there would be any driver issues trying to use both products? Would really appreciate it if this can be answered!

  • @romantia8327
    @romantia8327 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I especially like when you talked about parallax. Your tone of voice is hillarious.

  • @thefloorhasgone
    @thefloorhasgone 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question: does this tablet play nice with a Microsoft surfacebook 2? Or SB3 or the surface pro range. I know Wacom drivers don't like the ntrig and touch screen drivers.

  • @ironowl5046
    @ironowl5046 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I appreciate your content. Curious if you have had any experience with the Xencelabs products. Specially the 24” 4k pen display? I’m currently in school for my BSA in computer animation and character design and they gave us the xencelabs tablets but I prefer a pen display. I currently work on my iPad Pro but would like more real estate for larger works. I’m debating between that and the cintique but I’m really liking the build quality and the dual pen setup that comes with the xencelab tools. That would than give me 4 pens. lol almost one for each finger of my drawing hand. Any thoughts would be appreciated.

  • @TheWhitde
    @TheWhitde ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi thanks for the info, lashed out on one of these yesterday. They had 35% off so, was a deal sweetener was right on my limit.
    Went this version for the 2K resolution, menu buttons and physical size. Now... TBO I don't need all the real estate to draw.... however given all APPS have menus and use some I wanted to make sure I have enough to draw and navigate.
    Prob have to share with daughter who has a 8 yo Wacom tablet with 1024 pressure levels and no tilt.
    For me, I want to use it for texturing in substance painter.
    Almost went for the new one with 16384 pressure levels but for some reason it has a weird aspect ratio. Smaller on with 4K would have also been nice... but... all sold out.

  • @avinashsingh-mf9yr
    @avinashsingh-mf9yr 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey. I am planning on buying the Artist 24Pro. I wanted to know if the tablet can also charge an M1 Macbook air while connected it it via Type C cable. As the Tablet is already drawing power from the wall.

  • @jackspring7709
    @jackspring7709 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent point on parallax in general and how it can be easily dealt with: I'm always amazed at how this aspect of a drawing display is overblown by so many people.

    • @D2Kprime
      @D2Kprime 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's not at all overblown, nor is it an excellent-point. Calibration is "supposed" to fix parallax-issues. Unfortunately, in some tablets no matter how much calibrating you do, you *cannot* fix that issue. Also, some people don't want the cursor dragging behind the lines. It's okay if some people like it that way just like it's okay if some people like to eat food that's not good for them. Please don't act like parallax is a phantom-issue or it is "useful" for most.

  • @jbilla
    @jbilla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have the artist 22E. I am considering the 24R Pro simply because of the battery free stylus.

  • @blindOni
    @blindOni 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just realized today Ive been drawing on a 10 year old cintiq and im trying to decide between this or a huion 🤔, cintiqs the same size is a heartattack.

  • @itsjessicahomann
    @itsjessicahomann ปีที่แล้ว

    I like the directness ...being honest and blunt is perfect haha

  • @burakcicek9953
    @burakcicek9953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Hey Trent, maybe you can review huion kamvas pro 24 later. I know, this channel not tech review channel but I would love to hear the thoughts of an artist like you.
    Also, your videos gave me strength again when I was a young artist who lost his motivation. I love you man, really!

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Thanks! I'd stopped doing tablet reviews for about a year because I've found everything that works for what I need. But I'll look into the kamvas.

  • @gaugesutton2212
    @gaugesutton2212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hey Trent what would you suggest for someone who is trying to write a graphic novel and has an idea of what they want the story to be and who the characters are but is unsure of what the world looks like, how should I go about creating the world of my own story?

    • @Dezhavu13
      @Dezhavu13 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      While I am not Trent, I would highly recommend picking up a world-building program like Wonderdraw or Campaign Cartographer. Humble Bundle often has sales on these or you can find other programs for free on the Internet. Characters are shaped by the world they live in and vice versa, so envisioning and knowing that world would be beneficent in rounding out your characters.

  • @macs3d39
    @macs3d39 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi there, watched a lot, and i mean a lot of comparison videos wacom to XP Pen,. I was aiming for a 32 Wacom Pro . It a shitload of dollarlalas.
    I am not a prof artist, just loving 3D and a friend of using the best tools i can get my hands on. Sure, sometimes way over the top to pay so much for simply a hobby.
    When i started to play drums, i bought a Roland TD50 eventhough i had no idea how to play. That kinda guy is what i am.
    But you got me thinking of making an exception this time and give XP a try. Worst is some 800 bucks down the drain, right?
    Ok, just wanted you to know that it was you who tipped the scale in favor of the XP because your review is honest and in the right words.
    Just the right mix between making me laugh and shoveling the important facts over the table.
    Ah, and BTW.... I love the drawing you did through the video. Always make me jealous seeing so much talent where i have none ;)
    Would love to build that in 3D. What do you think? Walking around in your creation has a nice ring to me. Sure, will take some time,
    but hey, i am a software developer. For that species nothing is impossible and there are no problems, only challenges ...
    Cheers and all the Best form Germany

  • @varsilia
    @varsilia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    hi Trent, what's the size & dpi of that drawing? I'd like to draw something that big

  • @SamuraiJonez
    @SamuraiJonez 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Answered the question of if this could legit double as a primary desktop disply. New sub

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Oh yes. I use it for a 2nd display.

  • @desiredbydesign6188
    @desiredbydesign6188 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video Trent. I just bought this 150 quid voucher off. Win win. Just waiting for delivery sucks :)

  • @rosehawker
    @rosehawker 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i am using an Ipad air4 right now with procreate to draw last time i did art was back when i was 16-18 it's been a long time. i am wanting to get something for my PC so i can have more layers and to give my tablet a bit of a rest and that is not to big not much room on my desk. any thoughts for something with crap for a budget :P ???

  • @killfear
    @killfear 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    7:25 - does xp pen have a spin / z axis to change angles of the brush? that's default with cintiq / wacom Art Pen?
    I use a ton of assymetrical brushes that rely on rotating while stipling...

  • @AmbarishPandhare
    @AmbarishPandhare 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I am confused with huion kamvas pro 24 vs xp pen artist pro 24. Please help. I want for 3d sculpting and texturing.

  • @julianhartinger4449
    @julianhartinger4449 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Whats your opinion about the brightness in comparison to an ipad? I need a graphics tablet for my pc because with the ipad on a pc its allways a bit wicky wacky 😅😂 could you recommend it then? I had a old wacom cintiq and was very unhappy with it- mostly because of the cables and stuff.

  • @frazierboi77
    @frazierboi77 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m using the xp pen 15.6 pro and I love it but I am looking for more real estate to draw on…can’t wait to get the 24

  • @kinogr2286
    @kinogr2286 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does this tablet comes with Vesa mount, so you can attach it to an arm stand?

  • @octaviososa5108
    @octaviososa5108 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have a question for you Trent. How many drawings at week do you need to submit when working for a video game company? Thank you!

  • @CliveStephensonCoUkDesigner
    @CliveStephensonCoUkDesigner 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am planning on buying a 15.6 but I want to ensure I get no lag. To avoid this, what would be better, more RAM or a 4GB gpu graphics card ( currently using on board ram)

  • @mkzayar1836
    @mkzayar1836 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really like to buy one though but really not happy with the drive which i had very bad experience with xp tablet with Mac. Its a nightmare with driver. I am still thinking whteher i should go iPad Pro or this 24 Pro. Cannot spend for two. one thing i don't understand clearly is some are stlll saying xp pen can use with PS. As a Mac user i don't see any issue with sidecar to use PS. Are they talking about Windows User ? Any experience with ipad pro Sidecar with PS ?

  • @JerryMeehanJr
    @JerryMeehanJr 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I know this video is 3 years old but just researching this xp pen tablet and came across it! I am coming from a 22hd cintiq, I've had it for 10 years now and it's showing it's age in all kinds of ways. In the past I would never consider another brand but I am seeing so many glowing reviews for this artist 24 pro and its like $600 on sale now on their website thats more than half of what I paid for my 22hd!!! are you still using it? if so have you run into another issues down the line? thanks!

  • @Gleichtritt
    @Gleichtritt 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ive tried to find it online, even on XP Pen's page, but nowhere to be found: What is the Hz number of this tablet? I absolutely love the 120hz display of the iPad pro and I feel the difference a lot, when comparing it to the 60hz displays of the iPad air.

  • @itsjessicahomann
    @itsjessicahomann ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a beginner, and I love it ! I started with the IPAD pro 12.9 but wanted something bigger. and if i am being honest I dont mind the that the screen isnt silky. Actually, now when i use my ipad I find its a bit harder than before to get the lines straight with a realistic like pencil because its so smooth compared to the XP which i am now use to lol I usually dont start something with cheaper products either I always like to have the best of the best especially if its about something that I know I wont grow out of I found the perfect settings for the pen itself as well. I read before buying that people kept having to calibrate the pen and the screen etc but after many tests and tweaks I was able to figure out how to avoid all that so. now when my computer sleeps it still turns on with the exact settings. as for the color oh man i tried so many settings but still after that somedays or even hours it just didnt look as great and it was bugging me sooo much and then randomly i tried one thing days later and it completely changed the game lol sooo weird! great video even though i know this is from 2 years ago lol

  • @Daniel-tx2vt
    @Daniel-tx2vt 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Windows laptops and PCs are starting to ho lightning and usb type-c as well so one cable does all NEEDS to be standard.

  • @teabagNBG
    @teabagNBG 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i got me a wacom 27 for 500 bucks lol its my first... im happy with it... the touch function is also very cool for windows :D

  • @user-zm5ss6uk5c
    @user-zm5ss6uk5c 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Will it be better than cintiq pro 16 for flyer / brochure design?

  • @xxEasyRiderxx
    @xxEasyRiderxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Welp, I'm sold. My old 21" Cintiq died last month, and I've been waiting on this review to decide whether I wanted to go with the 24" XP-Pen. I was super impressed with the review you did on the Innovator.

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Let me know if what you think after you get it!

    • @delusionalunicorn5324
      @delusionalunicorn5324 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How many years did the Cintiq last?

    • @xxEasyRiderxx
      @xxEasyRiderxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@delusionalunicorn5324 Bought it mid-2011, so just over 9 years of pretty heavy use.

    • @Mo-fc2vj
      @Mo-fc2vj 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you end up getting the 24XP-Pen ? If so what do you think off it coming from older cintiq ?

    • @xxEasyRiderxx
      @xxEasyRiderxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mo-fc2vj I did, and I love it! There are a few little things here and there, but nothing insurmountable. Like, not having an eraser button on the pen. Just a little annoying. Otherwise the color and resolution and handling are GREAT compared to the old 21UX. Well worth the purchase, imo.

  • @dollplexus74
    @dollplexus74 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ok. The software is whit the pro 24 tablet? Or I have to buying separate???!

  • @xJakkAttack
    @xJakkAttack ปีที่แล้ว

    Greetings & Hello - Happy Holidays to you.
    I understand this is a 2-year-old video now though I am really hoping I could get some answers.
    I personally have the Innovator16 - its my first drawing display from xppen [ used huion drawing tablet with no screen before ] and been using it for the last couple years.
    Its slowly giving me some glitchy issues [ which xppen has confirm its likely was a default tablet but I am past my 18 months warr ] - I am itching to upgrade to a larger screen with the xppen deal they have right now and looking at the 22R Pro or the 24 Pro - which by looking pretty much the same just the different size.
    My question[s] is : Do you still think this info holds up now being its 2 year later ? I personally just would want it for a larger screen setup - it doesnt need to be portable since I dont do stuff on the go or away from my desk.
    I worry that since the Inn16 did come out after these, it may be a downgrade however since they were all out within the same year it shouldnt be that much of a difference but compared to now with others display that came out like Huion's display having better colors - there is just so many info with this is better because of that or that is better because of this and I am just a bit in the middle on what would be the best.
    Any info and advice you may have would be awesome !

  • @Ryuk15100
    @Ryuk15100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Huion has a new kamvas 22 plus with a really good display. Cant decide if I should get one or if I should geat an xp pen artist 22r pro. What do u think, is xp pen better for professionals?

    • @77dris
      @77dris 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those are only 1080p though

  • @dumbcat
    @dumbcat 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i've found that i enjoy drawing on both pen tablets and pen displays. they are both fun to draw on. i might actually give the edge to pen tablets because you don't have to look at your hand when you draw and you can sit up straight looking directly ahead. plus the resolution of a pen tablet is unlimited. it is only limited by what your computer can pump out. but i wouldn't buy a really cheap pen tablet. i tried one and it kinda sucked

  • @MrDrawfan
    @MrDrawfan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Aw trent, I miss your salsa intro

  • @KhyrisEidan
    @KhyrisEidan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You have to plug it is its' own power supply? With nothing in it?

  • @brokencreationlordmegatrol3037
    @brokencreationlordmegatrol3037 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    do MacBook's not let you use an extended display instead of cloned?? it kinds kills the fun of having two screens

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can. It's just faster to set up if it's mirrored, and if you're always unplugging and then docking, it loses the "main monitor" setting, so you have to drag photoshop over to the new screen and then drag over any popup windows.

  • @kaelenhollyer9880
    @kaelenhollyer9880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hey Trent, I have been wondering if I was to work for Blizzard, or something similar, would I be required to do my art in Photoshop, or could I use Clip Studio or another alternative?

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      You would have to request a license through their IT department, which needs to get budget approval, and if the AD says no, then it’s a no.

    • @kaelenhollyer9880
      @kaelenhollyer9880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TrentKaniuga Thanks!

    • @e_cleaver
      @e_cleaver 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@kaelenhollyer9880 It likely would not be approved if it is not on the companies pre approved software list of applications that can be installed on their computers and that have been deemed secure. Normally enterprise size corporation have a deal with adobe to make the software cheaper and a enterprise profile. I normally have to guide end users with how to install adobe creative cloud onto their computer using the software center because that is the approved way to download the application.

  • @davidparra1009
    @davidparra1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Ey trent I really love your work man!!!

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      whats my job? lol.

    • @davidparra1009
      @davidparra1009 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrentKaniuga uh ... I meant work! hahahaha sorry xD
      Love your work!

  • @preciousanngarcia1734
    @preciousanngarcia1734 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope i can have a teacher like you 🥺

  • @lexmelnikov6462
    @lexmelnikov6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm using this one for 2 months. Great and solid built tablet. The only issue I've found is.... Line wobbling. Yeah. You can probably notice that if you'll try to draw a straight line slowly.
    I've heard that some Cintiq models have those issues too. Is that true?

    • @xxEasyRiderxx
      @xxEasyRiderxx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Smoothing option (if available in your program) is really the only way to get rid of that. If you're making fast strokes, it's not a problem, but the pens are so sensitive that they will pick up every jolt if you're trying to do a long slow line. I keep mine at about 20-40% when I'm inking. Otherwise you'll have to paint smaller line arcs.

    • @lexmelnikov6462
      @lexmelnikov6462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​ @Eric Summers That's Right. A good solution actually. I've tried the native smoothing and Lazy Nezumi for a short period of time (with catch up option enabled). Still feels a little unnatural because of the brush tip delay:( Hope you know what I mean. The actual end of the line follows kinda late after the physical pen tip. Thank you anyway.

  • @pandaplayz3544
    @pandaplayz3544 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I wish i can draw like you

  • @kyouzins
    @kyouzins 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Who still have your XP-Pen pentab for more than 3 years or so? I read a lot of reviews on it (display or none) and their pen is kind of not durable for a year or two, the tablet seems solid but I read a lot of complain about the pen. I know for sure Huion brands were not as durable as XP-Pen because I have two for a couple of years and here I am finding another drawing tablet and I am sure enough right now choosing XP-Pen because of durability but Wacom is very expensive. I already bought the XP-Pen Deco Pro but as I mentioned on my concern (and on many reviews on amazon) the pen is broken and I return and get my refund. I hope people who have experience with the brand can give me a hint or two.
    Great video by the way. I hope lots of artist and reviewer will be honest and not afraid to say things from user perspective just because a company send you a product to review. Many of them just read the already specs/claim of the given product not the actual performance it may be an opinion or not. Thanks Trent!

    • @MonsterHobbieShow
      @MonsterHobbieShow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I have been using an xppen 15.6 pro for a year and a half non stop and so far the pen works as new, I had to replace the first nib since it was scratching the protective cover on the display but found out that removing the protective layer was better for me, so far I haven't changed nibs again even though sometimes I do press hard, but I'm not worried about the pen and they sell replacement pens anyway and are worth half of those from wacom so you wouldn't need to buy a new tablet every time your pen dies.

  • @cjonwickham1933
    @cjonwickham1933 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I bought artist 15.6 pro...not too small not too big. Stylus and drawing tablet like samsung or iPad or 2 in 1 are not same for pro use like 3d model or animation...just general use and sketch and not enough real estate... any bigger like 22 or 24 I would buy If i wanted as stationary commercial or big paint
    /strokes.

  • @Dumb-Comment
    @Dumb-Comment 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'm using kanvas 13 pro and it's still good

  • @nighthawkwarriorcomics
    @nighthawkwarriorcomics 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cool video can u do a Halloween themed drawing?

  • @jaredperry917
    @jaredperry917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Instead of an iPad pro I recommend a Microsoft surface pro7 8 or 9. It has really good pressure sensitivity and it's super fast and responsive they cost around 1200

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Great suggestion. I've not tried that one so I can't do a direct comparison. But I know several people who use the surface pro as a sketching option. I don't know if they use it as a primary. Personally, I can't stand windows.

    • @jaredperry917
      @jaredperry917 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TrentKaniuga ah gotcha, I guess you have been using Mac since they first came out

    • @sloppynyuszi
      @sloppynyuszi 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I had the surface pro, and honestly, I really don’t like their own tech. I find like control when drawing slowly to be very poor. If you cool with windows the Wacom EMR enabled 2 in 1s are best. Samsung, Lenovo and HP have options.

  • @KalponicGames
    @KalponicGames 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What about something like this but much cheaper. Was looking for something cheap display tablet.

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out the other tablet mentioned in the video called the Innovator16. It's much cheaper but smaller

  • @Am4ii
    @Am4ii ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m really curious how you change the colour of your pen without touching the pallets.

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  ปีที่แล้ว +2

      "Alt" on your keyboard will color dab (color select) whatever you click on.

  • @ItsScapeGoated
    @ItsScapeGoated 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anyone know where I can find the painting he was working on?

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It will be in the World Of Twilight Monk Volume 2. You can get volume 1 at www.aquatic-moon.com

  • @DallasUzumaki
    @DallasUzumaki ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Trent,
    Do you have any tips for learning art from scratch?

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  ปีที่แล้ว

      Watch my videos for beginners

  • @VyacheKan
    @VyacheKan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm curious if people get neck problems when using screen display tablets vs. pen tablet setup. Also, seeing videos on the inta webs suggesting using Versa or Xoot mounts, but sure how effective it will be for somebody illustrating for long periods.

    • @ThatMexicanAlienDude
      @ThatMexicanAlienDude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The "problems' are the same as using paper.

    • @FireallyXTheories
      @FireallyXTheories 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My neck says yes, but I don't have an arm stand nor an elevating desk which could be game changers.

    • @anam00090
      @anam00090 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah. After using Cintiq 13HD for 7 years, my neck and back hurt a lot just from looking down. I imagine bigger displays on mounts are better but then the hands get exhausted. I’m looking into buying a regular screenless tablet for ergonomics. I am much faster on a screen display but I’d get faster on the regular tablet after a while. I have nice wrist rests, stand with many angles, good chair but nothing helps :( wish cintiq had an option to shut off the screen for a while and use it like that

    • @VyacheKan
      @VyacheKan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh man, sorry to hear that. I don't wish that on anybody. I hope these companies consider our necks instead of our monies.

    • @8coral
      @8coral 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anam00090 hi, I use a huion pro 13, but I find it much better now for my posture to use a 24 inch regular monitor with the huion display set lower down in front of it on a stand, and most of the time I just use it like a pen tablet whilst looking straight ahead at the big monitor. Any tricky bits I can then just look down for a bit and use it as a screen tablet. Also on mine you can turn off the actual display by unplugging & replugging the usb cable, then it’s just a pen display. Might be worth a try if you haven’t done so already?

  • @brucebissell7626
    @brucebissell7626 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    THANKS FOR THE GREAT REVIEW ON THE XP-PEN 24. I AM A 70 YEAR OLD VIETNAM COMBAT VET. AND I AM LEARNING DIGITAL ART AT HOME. LOOKING FOR A BETTER TOOL. I HAVE A XP DECO MED. BUT FOR ME IT IS JUST TOO SMALL. GOING TO PUT SOME $$$ ASIDE FOR A MUCH BIGGER PAD. WACO IS WAY TOO MUCH. IF THEY CUT THE PRICE BY A THIRD (3rd) I THINK THEY WOULD SELL MANY MORE. YOU DO GREAT WORK. GOD BLESS.

  • @ahmedqb6409
    @ahmedqb6409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    You ever tried the wacom mobile studio pro ?

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No. The last Wacom product I reviewed was the companion.

  • @pinoyastronaut
    @pinoyastronaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Can you use the xp pen 24 connected with the Intuos at the same time?

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But... why? I mean, yes you can just use it as a monitor.

    • @pinoyastronaut
      @pinoyastronaut 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrentKaniuga Yeah thinking it would be a good 2nd monitor connected on to a VESA mount

  • @Braisin-Raisin
    @Braisin-Raisin 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ididgize embroidery designs and sometimes have problems with the stylus on the XP-Artist 22E Pro. By the way: love the drawing.

    • @Braisin-Raisin
      @Braisin-Raisin 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @pai pai My problem is that I have to swap between straight lines (nib) and curved lines (right mouse click). The straight lines are no problem, the right click (on the little button of the pen) will "click" when I only hover over the surface and after several curved lines it erases everything. That is annoying when you have done quite a bit of work ad it is all wasted. I now do everything in straight lines and then change the nodes to curves, asd required, afterwards.That is extra work and I have tried just about every setting - no luck. I have not tried to take the pen apart and adjust the setting on the inside. Every idea would be appreciated. I deal with it but it could be better.

  • @javierfuentes7970
    @javierfuentes7970 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Trent, How did you rotate the canvas with the pen??

  • @dominickisidore5180
    @dominickisidore5180 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Tablet computers definitely exist! Have you heard of the Surface Studio 2? or any of the HP Tablet laptops??

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes. but those are thousands of dollars. Arent they?

    • @dominickisidore5180
      @dominickisidore5180 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrentKaniuga Yes, sadly most of them are but you can get HP Laptops that have a touchscreen and can be used with a pen for around 900. I had one a while ago; an HP Touchsmart 2. It wasn't that expensive and was a lot of fun to digitally paint with! But thanks for the video! I'm thinking about buying this because it has all those express keys that can be customized. The Wacom Cintiq needs a separate remote to do that and also it doesn't have as many buttons. I have a Gaomon PD2200 and I wanted something better. Thanks for the review!

  • @user-xw3hv3sn7s
    @user-xw3hv3sn7s 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    i use huion kanvas 16 pro and i love it

    • @kaelenhollyer9880
      @kaelenhollyer9880 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me as well

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I haven’t tried that one. But if it works for you, then that’s great!

  • @FerGalicia
    @FerGalicia 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    10:00 that's not parallax, calibration fixes what you referring "x,y" but the usual parallax from this devices is "z": the thickness of the glass vs laminated displays.

  • @MrBurkistan
    @MrBurkistan 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    1:48 Since when does the price of the iPad Pro come close to 2000 dollars?

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Once you buy all of the other required stuff (pencil, screen protector, expanded memory, etc) it comes out to 1950.

  • @Djwhynotlove
    @Djwhynotlove ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dude your drawing books are Dope as fuck!

  • @LadySingingWolf
    @LadySingingWolf 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm working with a Huion Kamvas 16 currently, my first pen display from an Wacom Intuos Pro. I've liked it to a point but I'm looking at going back to Wacom Cintiq 16, due to certain features they have that I miss. I would go bigger but I'm working in a small area and need something that can fit comfortably on my adjustable lap desk. I kind of wish I went with XP-pen but everything I saw pushed me towards Huion.

  • @rockon8174
    @rockon8174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    The screen scratches easily on the XP PEN. The Huion Kamvass doesn't scratch because it's laminated glass.

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really? Never had that problem.

    • @rockon8174
      @rockon8174 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrentKaniuga you're the first. 😐. Plenty of users shared videos and pictures of this issue, hence XP Pen now sells screen protectors now for an additional $50.

  • @thearchitectmk
    @thearchitectmk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    whats difference between the pro and normal version of xp pen 24?

    • @TrentKaniuga
      @TrentKaniuga  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      resolution, and pressure sensitivity. I think the pro version has touch control too.

    • @thearchitectmk
      @thearchitectmk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TrentKaniuga you think pro is better? I talked to an XP pen guy on the website live chat. They say the 24 has better colors than 24 pro and the only difference is the express keys tbh

  • @craigsteyntheartistcraig3592
    @craigsteyntheartistcraig3592 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    ...wait, I'm not ready, but I have a kamvas PRO????