Did the TH-cam algorythm skip your channel? I mean this review is better than 90% of all the other tablet reviews I've seen the last week (which is a lot). I'm sure you will do great on youtube! Keep up the amazing content :)
Your comment is helping to fix the algorithm 😁. Thank you so much I really appreciate your kind words. I'm happy I could help, I'll have more good stuff to come!
just finished watching like 8 other reviews of the cintiq 22 and a handful of xp pen tablets and this is by far the most down to earth, average user perspective I found. Really good, useful human review. I can always look up things like hardware specs and features but seeing them all in the hands of a normal person and your impressions was hugely helpful, thank you!
I hope you become internet famous! Enjoyed your blunt review! Not anyone would dare buy multiple tablets simultaneously and review them just to upgrade. I knew Wacom are so overpriced, and since I'm not rich, I'd be contented with saving up a Wacom One Pen Display with the Remote. I've seen lots of negative reviews from Huion and XP-Pen tablets, not denying that they have happy customers as well, but I wouldn't take the risk buying a less durable tablet with hard earned money. At least with Wacom, I know their drivers are stable, last longer and have less chances of busting up.
i had paid about 110$ for a medium size tablet of Huion, it's f*cked up at the 5th month that i used it. Lmao, Its pen was terrible and it couldn't connect with any drawing apps that i downloaded after nearly a year i bought it. From that day, i've never buy any stuffs of Huion anymore lol i switch to wacom with a small size and it still work pretty well 'til now. So i would reccomend every one like a starter drawing/artist, choose the one although it's overprice but it can stay with you like 5 or maybe 8 years somehow idk, it worths for that price
This video and your reviewing style are so much better than pretty much every other video I've seen reviewing Graphics Tablets, and I have watched a lot. Other reviewers seem to overly bloat the review and the message they are trying to get across gets more and more blurred. This video felt very straightforward, genuine, and factual to the everyday person wanting to do digital art. It was perfect and helped me make up my mind on which tablet to get, and I was very close to getting the Wacom 22 prior to this video and will now be going XP Pen. Thank you!
I agree with this comment or, I went through a similar cycle as you Taylor, started with a drawing pad, then xp pen pro display, and then a refurb Wacom 32and refurb ergo stand. I love the Wacom,it was speedy but no regrets except for not doing it sooner, but if I had I would not have seen the refurb section on wacoms site. The refurb price is what pushed me over the deciding point. I saved almost a grand by going refurb and I got it in 3days from waycom standard free shipping, so far themultitouch has been amazing for things other then drawing and sculpting, my kid loves it, the express remote I thought was junk but I really like it for zbrush and other apps, I stil, use the keyboard, but for cruising and certain phases of my creation the remote adds a nice balance to working on the screen. I have been in heaven. my xp pen now sits, its a smaller backup travel friendly screen, wish it had the multitouch like the Wacom. great video!! like the comment or said not a lot of really truly informative videos on this topic.
@@ChangeHere Thanks so much! I'm so glad you found this helpful. Was the refurbished Wacom basically the same as a new one? I saw that on the site, and it seemed like a great way to save money but I was a little nervous because you never know what you might end up with. It sounds like you're getting a lot of really good use out of it, so it was definitely the right purchase!
God BLESS you sir, I love how direct you are. While going down the rabbit hole of reviewers, I started to lose track of what was what and it was honestly stressful. I'm starting school for animation this fall and was leaning towards the Cintiq 22 but it clearly isn't worth it. Now the question is whether or not I'm willing to sink thousands of dollars into a tablet that will no doubt last me a long ass time or one that will most likely last until my graduating year. Love your stuff dude, keep it up!
Happy I could help 😊 and thanks for your kind words. That's a tough one, trying to figure out what tools to get for school is challenging. Maybe you could consider a 16 inch tablet so that it's portable? I did a review of the Kamvas Pro 16 and I loved it, I was able to make really high quality art and it was more affordable. Best of both worlds! Good luck 😁
Appreciate the honesty, especially from an amateur artist perspective. The cintiq pro is so expensive because they surely don't sell a lot of them, and it's pretty much king of the hill technology. Their lower tier tablets being somewhat garbage is them getting some profit off that name - they've always done that but only recently have other companies stepped in and filled that void. From a professional artist's perspective, that $2k price tag of the pro is not an issue, that extra $900 you complain about burning is pretty much canceled out in a few weeks of work. I've had my last cintiq for 8 years, so if the new ones last even half that long and are still better than the competition, I'm not really worried about the price tag.
This is a great point, I love this perspective. If you're converting your art into money, that $900 is well worth the price. If you're a professional you're in that category of people where those slight differences can make a huge impact on your output. I'd love to be there someday 😁.
Exactly. I love my Wacoms, but I don't recommend any of the non-Pro Wacom lineup anymore: there's just no reason for it. Huion and XP-PEN are the new kings of that, and boy do they do it well for cheaper. As someone who first started around 2007, I'm so glad the days when Wacom was the only choice for art tablets are gone.
@@HipposHateWater Yup, I actually just ordered the Pro 24 the other day and it's definitely nothing I'd recommend to anyone. BUT if you're making a career out of your Art and tablet, I think you should be thinking of it as an investment and not something you bought. You should be generally okay paying more for quality. I 100 percent agree with his perspective too. My main factor in choosing it over the others was the 4K and the feel. Other tablets are finally getting the 4k and are actually getting to be not too far off in price so at that point I'll stick with Wacom lol
I've been in the same boat, checking out so many reviews and kinda getting nowhere. I had started to lean towards the xp-pen and this just confirms it, thank you! :)
Great reviews! I just would like to add my experience from December of just last year. My wife dropped a huge amount of coin on a brand new Cintiq 24 Pro because she knew I had always coveted one for years. Just wanted to report that it was a big wake up call. What a piece of garbage. Oh yeah,..it felt great with the Matte screen but immediately it was plagued with QC issues. I think many do not realize that Cintiqs are also made in China. The screen was not sealed properly at the upper right corner where the controls are and it would stick and randomly turn touch on and off etc. I would have to press really hard about 10 times before it would recognize any input. It was, to be blunt, an embarrassment as well as a big disappointment. I MEAN you could SEE the separation between the glass and the screen. I could push it down and it would stick for about 3 minutes and then pop out again. GREAT workmanship Wacom! NICE for $2500. Are you kidding me? I returned it and I have decided against purchasing ANY type of replacement.; ESPECIALLY another Wacom product. So as I approach a full year in December of 2021, I still have no desire to own a Wacom product. It was a hassle boxing that piece of nonsense back up and I'm stuck with an overpriced Wacom Display arm that cannot be used for anything else. That alone cost my wife over $300. What a rip off. At least she got her $2500 back. I'm sharing this to say that do NOT fall for the hype that the Wacom worshippers try to dish out. At the end of the day,..it is just a device like all of the others. It can be defective and it can break and have issues just like any other piece of tech out there today. You may get lucky and get a great one or you may not. That's all I'm saying. It's not a guarantee either way. These are made in the same places that most tech is made and so you get what you get. If I decide to buy any of these things,...I would likely just grab a 4K XP Pen or Huion. If it lasts 3-5 years, that's fine because at the pace technology advances, there will likely be something better out there anyway.
Oh geez really?!? Ugh, that is so annoying! Those keys in the upper right aren't something I mentioned in the review because I didn't really think about them, but now that I've used them more they drive me nuts-- I'm always accidentally pressing them and I almost never want to. It's funny you bring up the stand, my neck has been hurting lately so I went to look at a stand and I realized I the Cintiq pro isn't VESA mount compatible! Which is obviously a money grab to sell more stands. I do love using the Cintiq pro, but it sucks that you had such a bad experience 😕. Sending good vibes!
I'm so happy this helped! You have a ton of really cool content on your channel, I hope your tablet helps you keep making great stuff! I think it's really cool I could help out such a high quality creator 😁.
I would have suggested buying the cintiq 16 Pro. Its MUCH cheaper than the 24 inch model and has the newest technology and the highest resolution screen which you may not use while drawing but you can still use the resolution to see the image as it would be as a finished product
when/if you get a tablet you should upload speed paints while reading the stories, i know as a personal fan id definitely watch that (of course you do what you want to do but its a cool idea i think)
This is a really nice change from all the typical reviews out there. Being a beginner artist myself, I found this review to be way more relatable. Thank you for this review 👍 I also found it really cute how you were trying to draw an outline of your baby's hand and how it looked like she was trying to eat the pen
I don't know you, have not heard of you, and have never seen a video from you, but I immediately trust your judgement. The way you are blunt, straight to the point, and how you explain things makes this review one that I liked right away. I loved your little helper! So cute.
I totally agree. I have owned both and now have a XP-PEN Pro 22e and love it. Also I have recommended it to my students and many of them have purchased it also. They share my views of loving the tablet. I also must say this. XP-PEN support is top notch. They are fast to respond and when one of my students had an issue they were quick to work to get it resolved. Even to the point of sending a replacement tablet out, though the issue I do not believe was the tablet. Even if you are just starting out in digital art or graphics pick up one of there low end models for under $50.00. I have one I carry in my laptop bag to use when I am out. Good luck and good drawing.
Thank you! I'm glad you're on board with XP-Pen, I really did love the tablet. I didn't get to interact with their support, but it's so great to hear that you had a good experience -- I've definitely been hearing a mixed bag of reviews about support from different companies.
This was a great review. Professional artist here 🙋🏾♀️. I've been using the xp-pen artist 22e HD which I think now they call the XP-Pen 22 pro - for about 5 years but I'm looking to upgrade and was really curious to know if the wacom would be worth it. Prior to the xp-pen I used the Intuos Pro which was nice but drawing directly on the screen is soooo much nicer. Anyway, I actually really like xp-pen. And I think this review confirms a lot of things for me. My only qualm about the xp-pen that I currently use is the color matching - it displays brighter than it should and the adjustments aren't great - but again I think this is just the case with my older model. Anywho, from someone who uses xp-pen, even with the older model, I really like it and I'll stick with the company a while longer....unless Wacom has some kind of magical sale or something...then we'll see 😁😏
This was the more honest review I have seen on a while, really, I was ALMOST going to get the Cintiq 22 and then started to see more and more good messages about XP-PEN Artist pro 24... awesomeness, and how it felt really as good as the Cintiq top dog 24 pro, but by far more affordable.
Really helpful review! Thanks for including little shots of your daughter. Reminds me of 33 years ago when my son was about 6 months old, holding him and trying to get work done on the computer. Cherish those memories.
😢 😢 😢 This hit me hard (in a good way). I can't bear to look at old photos because I feel like it was just yesterday we brought her home from the hospital, and now she's telling me she loves me to acquire more dessert.
I have a Cintiq 16 and while I do love using it I also have a few rather negative things to say about Wacom lately. Especially in regards to the screen on the regular Cintiqs. They wear out like the regular Wacom tablets. Fast. After only 1 - 2 years I had that very smooth spot where I would usually draw and due to some minor surface scratching the tablet also had some strwaks of chromatic abberation. And they do NOT offer replaceable screen protectors. On surface that recieves mechanic wear, constantly. That is for me the biggest problem with the cheap cintiq line. After nearly 30 years of using Wacom products I am also ready to give one of their competitors a try. It's really good to hear from the perspective of someone who just bought all pen displays for the first time. Thanks. Hope you got a good price back for the ones you didn't use ^^
i didnt look this video up but it was recommended, so i guess it's a good sign for your channel. pls keep doing your style of content, no bs but entertaining
I just returned my XP Pen tablet (same as the one in the video) after 2 months of use. Issues I had: 1.Express keys constantly resetting (once every 10-20 minutes) to factory settings 2.Express keys malfunctioning and spamming by themselves 3.Tablet doesn't work if it's not being set as a main display (you can use the pen but the cursos will be on your main monitor which defeats the purpose of a screen tablet) 4. Sometimes out of the blue the tablet would enter in sleep mode even if you're currently working on it. You can fix it ONLY by restarting your computer (turning on and off just the tablet doesn't work) These are all complaints I never heard from cintiq users. So I returned it and I'm going to save some money to get a cintiq, hope that will fix. Disclaimer: There are people that are not experiencing those problems at all, my friend has an xp pen pro 16 and is really happy with it. Maybe its just a compatibility issue with my pc, I don't know.
Ugh! that's so unfortunate -- this only cropped up 2 months after you got it? I haven't seen anything like that, but this is a really good thing to know! It's great that they let you return it -- hopefully you had a good customer service experience.
@@TaylorStine I'm from romania so I didn't interact with them but with the local store I bought it from. I paid a little extra to be able to return it in 2 months, seems like it paid off. However...I believe I bought an already defect product, hopefully they will fix it if they don't accept the return.
The 24 pro is actually around the price you mentioned for the non touch now. I am going for it, I want to see what it's like to draw on a big fancy screen. XD
Man I really rarely comment on videos, but one thing needs to be said! This is an excellent and super honest and relatable video for normal people. I can't understand how your channel is still so small. Hoping for the best for you! Enjoyed watching the video a lot
amazing video!! SUPER CUTE BABY! I'm still torn, I wish i had the balls to buy all 3 just to test LOL. I was really considering the 22 but now after this I'm considering just sending it and going for the pro 24.
Thank you! You know how when you drink a lot of coffee and suddenly everything seems possible? Basically what happened 😁. The pro 24 is the main one if used, and except for the lack of a good stand, I've loved it.
@@TaylorStine omg I love coffee LOL I totally understand, daily drinker here! I’m working on my own NFT collection right now and I’ve came a strangely far way drawing with my mouse which is surprisingly fine but I feel like to speed up my process and really use my skills to my best ability I feel like I should just get one asap ! before trying digital art I was mainly a painter but always felt discouraged because I’d never wanted to sell something I took so long to make if that makes sense? But with digital art/NFTs it’s just so much different! Digital art overall makes me feel more confident that I can be an artist for a living I guess haha
ha right?? Same! That makes sense to me -- if you pour so much effort into something you've made by hand, it's difficult to let it go. I feel the same way when I give away the pottery I make (which is terrible, but still). With NFTs, you can at least feel like you still have some ownership! You might even consider a non-display tablet -- the Wacom Intuous Pro I started using was really great and if you're already used to using a mouse it should be a pretty easy switch.
@@TaylorStine exactlyyyyy! right! it's cool knowing it exists in the metaverse instead of it only being a tangible item that could become damaged over time! I will definitely look into that!! I think that might be the most reasonable tablet to start with in my case then maybe later on I'll see if I want to upgrade!
THANK YOU! Fellow parent and 'ambitious amateur' who was equally nonplussed by all the existing reviews. I also have had hands on the Wacoms at illustration conferences; I agree there felt like there was a pricing mismatch. My fellow art friends are "all-in" on Wacom and I still couldn't feel like it was worth it. PS. I use a matte screen protector on my iPad that should help with the 'pen on glass' feeling of the XP Pen. So, all in all, I think I will just keep waiting and using the iPad until there's better options out there. I personally hate that the bezel of the wacom is 3-4 inches of wasted desk space. Honestly hoping someone in the TV monitor market will see this niched gap and come fill it. Quickly.
Love hearing from a fellow parent! The struggle is real (I'm finding, now that the little one in that video is 1 🥺). There's definitely something to be said for the clout of the name "Wacom". I haven't been able to evaluate longevity since I've only had the tablets for a few months, but the Intuous S I had still runs great. I have an iPad too, and I totally agree that matt screen protector is a life saver. You almost can't even use the iPad when you first open it without that protector. I wish they made that for a bigger tablet, I would buy it immediately (maybe I could just paste a few on together 😅. The bezel takes up SO much space compared to a tablet without. I'm currently trying out the Huion Kamvas 24 plus pro, which has no bezels, and I didn't realize how much it annoyed me until they weren't there. Thanks for the comment!
this is THE review I've been looking for. God, I wasted so much time watching so much content from people who have good points but don't have the same "use case" in digital art as me, thus irrelevant, or just people who don't have good points and just needed content (and sponsor money) for TH-cam channel stuff
@@TaylorStine oh I needed it for classes in my game art degree, ranging from animation and drawing classes to 3D modeling and etc, as well as hobby game development with my girlfriend. we're making a game about an otter living in a jungle forest full of waterslides 🌊🦦 and I ended up getting xp-pen pro 16
this review was really helpful and to the point! im a student planning on pursuing a career in professional art and im leaning more towards the cintiq pro 24 than the xp pen because of the 4k display and better feel, but my only concerns are the infamous amount of hardware and software issues with the cintiq 24 and the extra $700 for the stand which is crazy. i figure that if i have the extra money i should just throw it on the cintiq 24 and live with it since i'm going to need a good pen display in the future anyways, but I also want to wait a bit in case xp-pen or huion releases a 4k 24 display sometime soon. once again i really appreciate this combined review!!
Thank you for the kind words! I really think you can't go wrong with the Cintiq Pro, especially if you're a student just starting your art career. You'll keep it for a long time. One thing I would consider is, will you have a permanent desk? If not, you might consider a smaller tablet. I have a review of the Huion Kamvas Pro 16 coming out and if I were a student that may be the one I chose for the size and price (The Cintiq Pro also comes in a 16" option).
A fantastic review! You're such a lovely person and how you weighted your criticism is absolutely relatable to me. I wasn't even looking for any of these models and I still feel very informed, thanks for that! I hope all of you are doing good, if not, great!
Huion 22 pro is good value. It's not as good as Wacom but unless you had a Wacom that's not an issue and at hundreds of dollars less you will forget Wacom within a few weeks. Just be sure to get radiation filter and monitor glasses bcz the thing is bright. Maybe one day Wacom will devastate all competition by knocking 500$ off of their flagship models, but until then you can spend that same amount on an excellent workhorse.
Man, I hope you know how much I appreciate this video. I've got into pixel art and remastering photos on photoshop. I've been looking at a few tablets these 3 are in my top 10 of things I'm narrowing down to purchase and you answered one of my big questions about the Pen Pro. I think I'm going to pull the trigger and get that one, because you guys are in such another level of me that, that tablet is all I'll ever need until I get good enough for a upgrade and by then they'll probably have something better. Thanks for making such a informative video and saving me money.
I'm quite curious why most of testers on yt did not see the big differences between wacom and chinese tablets in drawing feelings. In my opinion huion (so probably also xp-pen) have big difference in how you feel the surface you are drawing on. The feeling of drawing on huion is like drawing on normal screen with mate surface. I mean screen of monitor. You dont feel it is so comfortable like in wacom. It feels very cheap for me. I think I could live with lower resolution, a bit worse colors but the experience of drawing i think is most important in these devices. Probably you also chose cintiq pro over xp pen;). I dont know why you dont recommend 22hd if it have the same screen surface as cintiq pro and same pen? and thanks for review!
I totally agree, the feel is the most important part of the tablet. The Cintiq Pro did feel a little better, but someone recommended I try the Huion felt tip pens, and I have to say that really improved my experience on the Kamvas screen. Really close to how the Cintiq pro felt, it was a really minor difference so it's hard to complain. I didn't feel like the 22 Cintiq had the same pen-on-screen feel as the Cintiq Pro. The Cintiq Pro felt much better by comparison. I thought the XP-Pen was really good by comparison. Happy I could help!
Thank you for your review...... I was going nuts trying to figure out the same questions you had. I finally purchased the XP Pen Pro w bluetooth for my daughter for her birthday prior to watching your awesome video. Glad I made the right choice and took the blue pill!!! LOL : )
Illustrator here. I own an XP-PRO 22 and a Wacom Cintiq 24pro touch (I also have an iPad Pro, 3 wacom intuos tablets and a Cintiq 13). So I agree that Wacom is expensive, I’ve always wanted to own one since my art school days in the early 2000’s. BUT, you get what you pay for, once you try a wacom, nothing feels as good (only the iPad). It’s the best investment you can make. They also last well over 10+ years. I’ve noticed that people who tend to say that XP or Huion are better are on a budget. Also, most of the reviewers are ok artists, your work is amazing. All my professional friends own Wacom Cintiqs. As a matter of fact, I was trying to get rid of the XP to one of my friends (who is a successful 3D artist) and he returned it even though i was giving it away. I also wanted to love the XP, but it always felt cheap and unnatural. I took the dive and got the 24Pro Touch last year and it just feels so good, feels premium. If you have the money, buy the Wacom, if you don’t have the money, save up for a wacom.
Wow, that's a lot of tablet experience! This is great insight. I'm with you -- the Cintiq Pro feels really good. If you're a professional and using it to make money, it's the right one to go with. My Intuous Pro has lasted for years so I can only assume the Cintiq will have good longevity. I want to find a way to evaluate the longevity of the other brands (I've heard some comments that they have issue but haven't experienced anything myself). I have an iPad pro as well, but I'm not as good on it as I am on the big tablet (I recently got it so I'm still learning). But it does feel pretty good, especially with one of those paper screen protectors. Thanks, this is great info!
@@TaylorStineif you want durability go for and wacom intuos pro (non screen tablet). There’s something funny in some comments. If you are a pro you don’t need a screen tablet. You can buy one of course, but it isn’t a must. Non Screen tablets are more recommendable, they last way longer, they have a wonderful feel or sensation using the pen on the surface of the tablet. They are much cheaper and don’t spend so much electricity. If the layer of the screen start to get scratch you can easily change it. I have an intuos pro 3 since 2011 or 2012 and I’ve been using it to work professionally. I’ve never had any issue or problem. It always have worked smoothly. So, if you want to buy a screen tablet because you think it’s cooler go ahead, but don’t think about it as more professional because it isn’t. It’s just another way to work.
This is something I'm starting to realize -- I just took Steve Hampton's figure drawing class and he only uses a Intuous without a screen. I remember trying to do this at the time but it was really challenging for me to map my hand movement to the monitor. Now that I've had more practice I'm going to give it another go because I suspect that you're right on the money.
after using Wacom intuos and cintiq 13hd for years i was ready for and upgrade as far a the screen goes, i was ready to put that bill on my CC and after diving deep on the unboxing review work of youtube i decided to save my money and pull the trigger on the xp-pen 24 pro, i don not regret it, yes you can tell the built quality difference but as far as being able to work there is no difference, i do like the buttons one the side, is great for shortcuts. Xp-pen is incredible !
I totally agree, XP pen may not be as flashy or well known but they really get the job done. I'm glad your happy with your tablet! I think you made a great call, it's so hard to know until you've used it for a little while.
I had the XP-Pen22r Pro for 2 and half years, and didn’t have any issues until a few weeks ago. The display suddenly had green vertical lines running along the entire screen. Messaged their support, and they couldn’t do anything about it so it’s basically dead. Had to use my Cintiq 13HD (almost 10+ years old) and it still worked with no issue. So after this I’ll be getting Wacom for the longer term investment
I wish I could measure this better in my reviews, since it's not the first time I've heard of it happening. I'm just going to keep using my Kamvas tablet until something bad happens, the I'm going to re-review / freak out. For now, everything is working well though.
Taylor, Thank you! That was very helpful. Great presentation and great visuals. I'll get back to you with a "catch phrase" idea later. Again, thank you!
Algorithm definitely screwed up. It’s a lot of work to buy all of these and do a concise review. I’ve been talking about starting a product review channel where I review everything I buy and then just keep the reviews short… but I never get around to it. So way to go for getting around to it!!!
Thanks for your support! And you should just go for it, honestly committing to buying the tablets was the hardest part. Once I got over that, the rest was easy. And the amount of fun I've had responding to comments and making other videos have really made the purchases worth while. I subbed so I can see your first video when it comes out :)
The 22inch model is very old, I would have suggested buying the cintiq 16 Pro. Its MUCH cheaper than the 24 inch model and has the newest technology and the highest resolution screen which you may not use while drawing but you can still use the resolution to see the image as it would be as a finished product. I have just ordered the latest iteration of the Wacom 16 inch Pro. I also think the size is really good if using it over many hours as its not so large requiring a great deal of arm, hand and head movement while using.
Once I tried out the 16" Kamvas Pro, I realized I should have probably given the 16" Cintiq pro a go as well. The 16" size is really nice because you can actually have room on your desk for other stuff.
I have the xp pen artist 22 E and actually love it better than my Wacom mobile studio pro 13''. I used to be a Wacom purist, but I could. get a much bigger tablet than I could with Wacom due to not wanting to bankrupt myself. Also your honesty, humor, and cute daughter earned a sub. Hi new friend.
Thank you! I had a tough time getting going today, and I needed to see this 😊. I just took a look at the specs for the 22 E, and that looks like a really great tablet. Based on my experience with the Artist display pro, I'm not surprised it can compete with Wacom. Glad you're enjoying it!
@@TaylorStine I'm glad I helped, :) This is a fantastic video and deserves all the love. I was actually, the only thing I hate about it is the cheap pen like you described after being used to the nice and sturdy Wacom ones lol. But they fixed a lot of the icky "bounce" it used to have! its a bit more firm now.
@@yaminogame7805 😊😊. I really wish they made a premium pen, even if it was $100 I would still probably buy it. Then it would really rival the Cintiq pro. Ha I'll send them an email and tell them that 😁.
i just purchased the EX-PEN 21.5 pro and i think it is suitable for my transition to digital art from sketchbooks and old fashion media. I m very much looking forward to learn how to use it and create stuff.
You can scale the layout to make them bigger and easy to read on the Cintiq Pro 24 without sacrificing the resolution. I did it on mine (increase to 150%) and the screen looks so clean and sharp. Plus the texts are readable instead of being tiny
I'm with that - even though I've had my eyes lasered 🤓 I still have a lot of trouble reading when the UI is set to 100%. I think right now I have it at 125% and I'm trying to train myself to just deal with it
@@TaylorStine 150% is the sweet spot I recommend if 125% doesn't seem to work By the way, I have a question, does your wacom cintiq pro 24 disconnects from the PC every time you turn the screen off if you're not using it? Trying to look up if this is normal, since old models, I can turn off the screen without the annoying windows disconnect chime sound blaring and it stays connected.
Never comment on videos but yours was so honest and relatable and saved so much bullshit from the other reviews I had to say well done and subscribed and liked fair play man
Thank you so much, this really means a lot to me. Glad to have you along for the ride, there's going to be more good stuff coming! I won't let you down 😁
Yes! (I should probably put that in the description): Windows 10 (Home) Intel Core i7-8700K GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Gaming 5 Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 ram (4 sticks, 64 GB). Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti GPU A bunch of SSDs, and HDDs.
Thank you for this review, very helpful! I've had the same question for a while now, is Wacom overpriced because sure seemed that they are. I am looking at Wacom XP Pen and Huion, also glad you mentioned the touch part, I could see some benefit but I think not for another $700 or so just for touch.
thanks for the review but I'm all 2D and have a Cintiq 21UX that I've had for over a decade. I bought an older XP Pen because I needed one at work and being a contractor, they didn't buy one for me. It was a 22 inch but I didn't care much for it compared to my old Cintiq. The pen made a squeaky plastic noise whenever I drew and the buttons weren't programmable independently of the sides. Sooo... I'm just going to keep using my 21UX and wait for Cintiq to come out with something I'm going to love or wait for a competitor to make something comparable.
I know what you're talking about when it comes to the feel of the pen on the screen. That is the biggest thing I think the Cintiq has over the Huion and XP-Pen tablets I've tried (it's so hard to beat their pricing though). I've found that the felt nibs that come with the Huion pen actually really help reduce that squeakiness -- but they're a little bit of a softer feel when you draw. You might consider the Cintiq Pro, it is a really good tablet and probably has good longevity. Especially considering your a professional, it may be worth the investment. It's the tablet I use ever day (or at least when my parenting duties allow) and I do like the feel of the pen on the screen.
thank you for the video. When I bought the Apple iPad 12.9" Pro 1.5 years ago, I stopped using the Wacom 22" Cintq and sold it. With the Apple iPad I feel I have better control with the thin pen (compared to the Wacom Pen). Even though I have less surface area for gesture drawing and can't rest the palm always of my hand on it, I strangely get better results when drawing dynamic figures. The same applies to my "second" tablet, the Samsung Ultra Tab S8. I somehow have the impression that Wacom is no longer the Mercedes of pen displays in the lower price segment. I can't say anything about the Wacom Pro series. Yesterday I went to in a computer shop to try out the wacom again because I want to check out the current pen displays. Because I am meantime used to draw on smooth glas surface, the paperlike surface and the thick wacom pen was confusing to me. But what holds me back with xpen or huion is that you can only order online and there is no local store where you can try out the devices and in the case of a warranty give them back without shipping costs. Thank you for the interesting video.
Yeah that's the thing a lot of people misunderstand about Wacom: the Cintiq Pro and Intuos Pro lines are great, but they're definitely victims of the land of diminishing returns. You're basically paying a x2 premium for a 10-15% increase in performance that non-pros are most likely not going to appreciate. Huion and XP-PEN are rapidly bridging the gap with their more premium tiers, like Huion's 4k Kamvas Pro models @4k. But even those are suffering a similar effect. (Baseline 16" Pro w/1080p display = $399, 16" Pro w/4k display = $850-899) So far Wacom is still the king of premium. (For now.) Especially when it comes to the subtle little things that don't really translate onto a spec sheet, like the intangible improvement in drawing experience you mentioned. :)
It's so true. When you buy new tech is also so hard not to want the "upgrade" version even if you don't necessarily need it. I've definitely fallen victim to that 😁. Great points!
I've been reading through "Figure drawing design and Invention" by Michael Hampton. I also reference "Anatomy for sculptures" while I sculpt (but it can be information overload). My wife also has this great yoga book that shows the anatomy of poses but I can't find it right now to look up the title 😬
This is the review i was looking for, but im curious why cintiq 22 hd had so bad impact on you. Was that really bad? How is the drawing feeling comparised to xp-pen? I bought this tablet 2 years a go and im planning to change for something similar in size, might be 16 inch as well. there is so many brands on the market. Is Xp-Pen still the best choice over wacom 22hd ? Thank you for your review!
A big reason why I wasn’t excited about the Cinq 22 HD was the price point especially when compared to the quality of the XP pen. I may have been a little bit callous here I know that there are some really quality artists that do amazing things with the Cinq 22 had. It was maybe close to the feel of the XP pen but I thought the display didn’t look as good as the XP pen. I have a Huion Kamvas Pro 22 inch I’m planning on reviewing, so that’s one option and you might consider the Cinq Pro 16. The Cintiq Pro has become the primary tablet I use and even though I believe it’s over priced it does feel the best. So depending on what you’re planning on doing with it or how much you’re planning on using it it might be worth the money for you to get the upgrade pick. Hope that helps!
Based on the price I paid for the 22", I think you got a good deal. The 16" is probably a really good option (I have a separate video about 16 vs 24 inch) but basically I think there are a lot of advantages to getting a smaller size. A big one for me (I do a lot of zbrush too) is that on most tablets you can use the 16" as a pen tablet without a display, so you're not covering up your model with your hand while you sculpt (which was the hardest thing for me to over come).
@@TaylorStine Thanks, I just got mine yesterday. Is the cintiq portable? Can I sculpt without hooking it up to the computer? Never tried it, does it have it's own battery?
@@murrowboy I have a 16" kamvas pro and that fits nicely into a standard 15" laptop sleeve, so it's definitely portable and I would imagine the Cintiq is the same. I don't think you can use it without a computer though. Depending on the poly count of your sculpt though, that may be a good thing if you need the processing power.
I would use XP-Pen If I don't wanna touch the screen and I wanna have a great display that comes with great customizable buttons. I would choose Cintiq Pro for the touch screen and its great resolution and its great texture. and one thing that made Cintiq Pro more expensive is the touch screen sensor.
Interesting, I never tried the touch screen but I have an iPad that I've been using and it is really convenient to be able to navigate around a sketch with just touch (rather than needing to press a button and drag the pen).
I've heard of products like that (and I have one on my iPad that makes the screen feel more like paper) but I haven't tried one. It would probably be helpful, but even still I didn't like the way the display of the Cintiq 22 as much.
I was having that issue for a little bit -- all of the games I wanted to play launched there by default. I have a Windows 10 PC and I think I just messed wit the primary monitor setting in Settings > System > Display. You might also try a different display port.
@@TaylorStine thanks for the reply, I haven't figured that out yet, I will try a different port, which means I need to disconnect and reconnect the line, currently I'm using the display port, but I will switch to HDMI to see, thank you!
Did the TH-cam algorythm skip your channel? I mean this review is better than 90% of all the other tablet reviews I've seen the last week (which is a lot). I'm sure you will do great on youtube! Keep up the amazing content :)
Your comment is helping to fix the algorithm 😁. Thank you so much I really appreciate your kind words. I'm happy I could help, I'll have more good stuff to come!
Haha yes I had exactly same thought. I read your reply after I just wrote mine haha I had same week wasted time videos for a product
concur
Keep it up. Subscribed! Loved your review, also I love that your child is featured in this video 😋 as a father myself, I approve hahaha
I agree
It’s tragic this doesn’t have more views.
Dad: Look what a nice 100€+ Wacom pen daddy got
Baby: Great let me shove it in my mouth to confirm
🤣🤣 luckily for the pen, she didn't have any teeth yet. High quality parenting right there!
I appreciate your honesty, your simplicity, and the fact you analised the FEEL, nor specs. That`s the ultimate information we need. Thanks, man!
Happy to help!
just finished watching like 8 other reviews of the cintiq 22 and a handful of xp pen tablets and this is by far the most down to earth, average user perspective I found. Really good, useful human review. I can always look up things like hardware specs and features but seeing them all in the hands of a normal person and your impressions was hugely helpful, thank you!
This is exactly what I was hoping for, I'm so happy you find it useful. Thanks for watching!
@@TaylorStine absolutely! I ended up getting the XP pen 24 pro and have been loving it! Thanks again :)
I hope you become internet famous! Enjoyed your blunt review! Not anyone would dare buy multiple tablets simultaneously and review them just to upgrade. I knew Wacom are so overpriced, and since I'm not rich, I'd be contented with saving up a Wacom One Pen Display with the Remote. I've seen lots of negative reviews from Huion and XP-Pen tablets, not denying that they have happy customers as well, but I wouldn't take the risk buying a less durable tablet with hard earned money. At least with Wacom, I know their drivers are stable, last longer and have less chances of busting up.
i had paid about 110$ for a medium size tablet of Huion, it's f*cked up at the 5th month that i used it. Lmao, Its pen was terrible and it couldn't connect with any drawing apps that i downloaded after nearly a year i bought it. From that day, i've never buy any stuffs of Huion anymore lol i switch to wacom with a small size and it still work pretty well 'til now. So i would reccomend every one like a starter drawing/artist, choose the one although it's overprice but it can stay with you like 5 or maybe 8 years somehow idk, it worths for that price
This video and your reviewing style are so much better than pretty much every other video I've seen reviewing Graphics Tablets, and I have watched a lot. Other reviewers seem to overly bloat the review and the message they are trying to get across gets more and more blurred. This video felt very straightforward, genuine, and factual to the everyday person wanting to do digital art. It was perfect and helped me make up my mind on which tablet to get, and I was very close to getting the Wacom 22 prior to this video and will now be going XP Pen. Thank you!
This meant a lot to me, thanks so much for saying this! I'm so happy I could help.
incredibly straightforward and very helpful review, finally not just another review singing praises for Wacom the lord and savior of artists. Love it
Thank you 😊! I'm a fan of questioning the big brands, you never know what they might use their name to get away with.
I agree with this comment or, I went through a similar cycle as you Taylor, started with a drawing pad, then xp pen pro display, and then a refurb Wacom 32and refurb ergo stand. I love the Wacom,it was speedy but no regrets except for not doing it sooner, but if I had I would not have seen the refurb section on wacoms site. The refurb price is what pushed me over the deciding point. I saved almost a grand by going refurb and I got it in 3days from waycom standard free shipping, so far themultitouch has been amazing for things other then drawing and sculpting, my kid loves it, the express remote I thought was junk but I really like it for zbrush and other apps, I stil, use the keyboard, but for cruising and certain phases of my creation the remote adds a nice balance to working on the screen. I have been in heaven. my xp pen now sits, its a smaller backup travel friendly screen, wish it had the multitouch like the Wacom. great video!! like the comment or said not a lot of really truly informative videos on this topic.
@@ChangeHere Thanks so much! I'm so glad you found this helpful. Was the refurbished Wacom basically the same as a new one? I saw that on the site, and it seemed like a great way to save money but I was a little nervous because you never know what you might end up with. It sounds like you're getting a lot of really good use out of it, so it was definitely the right purchase!
Best review I've seen on ANYTHING in a long time. Straight up no BS, no "influencer" fake sugar coating, just the down to earth.
God BLESS you sir, I love how direct you are.
While going down the rabbit hole of reviewers, I started to lose track of what was what and it was honestly stressful. I'm starting school for animation this fall and was leaning towards the Cintiq 22 but it clearly isn't worth it. Now the question is whether or not I'm willing to sink thousands of dollars into a tablet that will no doubt last me a long ass time or one that will most likely last until my graduating year.
Love your stuff dude, keep it up!
Happy I could help 😊 and thanks for your kind words. That's a tough one, trying to figure out what tools to get for school is challenging. Maybe you could consider a 16 inch tablet so that it's portable? I did a review of the Kamvas Pro 16 and I loved it, I was able to make really high quality art and it was more affordable. Best of both worlds! Good luck 😁
Appreciate the honesty, especially from an amateur artist perspective. The cintiq pro is so expensive because they surely don't sell a lot of them, and it's pretty much king of the hill technology. Their lower tier tablets being somewhat garbage is them getting some profit off that name - they've always done that but only recently have other companies stepped in and filled that void.
From a professional artist's perspective, that $2k price tag of the pro is not an issue, that extra $900 you complain about burning is pretty much canceled out in a few weeks of work. I've had my last cintiq for 8 years, so if the new ones last even half that long and are still better than the competition, I'm not really worried about the price tag.
This is a great point, I love this perspective. If you're converting your art into money, that $900 is well worth the price. If you're a professional you're in that category of people where those slight differences can make a huge impact on your output. I'd love to be there someday 😁.
Exactly. I love my Wacoms, but I don't recommend any of the non-Pro Wacom lineup anymore: there's just no reason for it. Huion and XP-PEN are the new kings of that, and boy do they do it well for cheaper. As someone who first started around 2007, I'm so glad the days when Wacom was the only choice for art tablets are gone.
@@HipposHateWater Yup, I actually just ordered the Pro 24 the other day and it's definitely nothing I'd recommend to anyone. BUT if you're making a career out of your Art and tablet, I think you should be thinking of it as an investment and not something you bought. You should be generally okay paying more for quality. I 100 percent agree with his perspective too. My main factor in choosing it over the others was the 4K and the feel. Other tablets are finally getting the 4k and are actually getting to be not too far off in price so at that point I'll stick with Wacom lol
the new cintiqs dont last that long, just google 24 pro issues and see how many old timers using old 24 hate the new 24
I've been in the same boat, checking out so many reviews and kinda getting nowhere. I had started to lean towards the xp-pen and this just confirms it, thank you! :)
Great reviews! I just would like to add my experience from December of just last year. My wife dropped a huge amount of coin on a brand new Cintiq 24 Pro because she knew I had always coveted one for years. Just wanted to report that it was a big wake up call. What a piece of garbage. Oh yeah,..it felt great with the Matte screen but immediately it was plagued with QC issues. I think many do not realize that Cintiqs are also made in China. The screen was not sealed properly at the upper right corner where the controls are and it would stick and randomly turn touch on and off etc. I would have to press really hard about 10 times before it would recognize any input. It was, to be blunt, an embarrassment as well as a big disappointment. I MEAN you could SEE the separation between the glass and the screen. I could push it down and it would stick for about 3 minutes and then pop out again. GREAT workmanship Wacom! NICE for $2500. Are you kidding me?
I returned it and I have decided against purchasing ANY type of replacement.; ESPECIALLY another Wacom product. So as I approach a full year in December of 2021, I still have no desire to own a Wacom product. It was a hassle boxing that piece of nonsense back up and I'm stuck with an overpriced Wacom Display arm that cannot be used for anything else. That alone cost my wife over $300. What a rip off. At least she got her $2500 back.
I'm sharing this to say that do NOT fall for the hype that the Wacom worshippers try to dish out. At the end of the day,..it is just a device like all of the others. It can be defective and it can break and have issues just like any other piece of tech out there today.
You may get lucky and get a great one or you may not. That's all I'm saying. It's not a guarantee either way. These are made in the same places that most tech is made and so you get what you get. If I decide to buy any of these things,...I would likely just grab a 4K XP Pen or Huion. If it lasts 3-5 years, that's fine because at the pace technology advances, there will likely be something better out there anyway.
Oh geez really?!? Ugh, that is so annoying! Those keys in the upper right aren't something I mentioned in the review because I didn't really think about them, but now that I've used them more they drive me nuts-- I'm always accidentally pressing them and I almost never want to. It's funny you bring up the stand, my neck has been hurting lately so I went to look at a stand and I realized I the Cintiq pro isn't VESA mount compatible! Which is obviously a money grab to sell more stands.
I do love using the Cintiq pro, but it sucks that you had such a bad experience 😕. Sending good vibes!
Great review! Trying to decide which one to buy and this helped a lot. Thanks!
I'm so happy this helped! You have a ton of really cool content on your channel, I hope your tablet helps you keep making great stuff! I think it's really cool I could help out such a high quality creator 😁.
@@TaylorStine I appreciate that!
I would have suggested buying the cintiq 16 Pro. Its MUCH cheaper than the 24 inch model and has the newest technology and the highest resolution screen which you may not use while drawing but you can still use the resolution to see the image as it would be as a finished product
when/if you get a tablet you should upload speed paints while reading the stories, i know as a personal fan id definitely watch that (of course you do what you want to do but its a cool idea i think)
"Wacom has a touch version if you hate having money" hahah that line was perfect. Great succint review
😁💸 thank you!
This is a really nice change from all the typical reviews out there. Being a beginner artist myself, I found this review to be way more relatable. Thank you for this review 👍
I also found it really cute how you were trying to draw an outline of your baby's hand and how it looked like she was trying to eat the pen
I don't know you, have not heard of you, and have never seen a video from you, but I immediately trust your judgement. The way you are blunt, straight to the point, and how you explain things makes this review one that I liked right away. I loved your little helper! So cute.
Thank you for this! I really appreciate it. She's getting to be a big helper fast, but hopefully she will make some future appearances!
I totally agree. I have owned both and now have a XP-PEN Pro 22e and love it. Also I have recommended it to my students and many of them have purchased it also. They share my views of loving the tablet. I also must say this. XP-PEN support is top notch. They are fast to respond and when one of my students had an issue they were quick to work to get it resolved. Even to the point of sending a replacement tablet out, though the issue I do not believe was the tablet. Even if you are just starting out in digital art or graphics pick up one of there low end models for under $50.00. I have one I carry in my laptop bag to use when I am out. Good luck and good drawing.
Thank you! I'm glad you're on board with XP-Pen, I really did love the tablet. I didn't get to interact with their support, but it's so great to hear that you had a good experience -- I've definitely been hearing a mixed bag of reviews about support from different companies.
This was a great review. Professional artist here 🙋🏾♀️. I've been using the xp-pen artist 22e HD which I think now they call the XP-Pen 22 pro - for about 5 years but I'm looking to upgrade and was really curious to know if the wacom would be worth it. Prior to the xp-pen I used the Intuos Pro which was nice but drawing directly on the screen is soooo much nicer. Anyway, I actually really like xp-pen. And I think this review confirms a lot of things for me. My only qualm about the xp-pen that I currently use is the color matching - it displays brighter than it should and the adjustments aren't great - but again I think this is just the case with my older model. Anywho, from someone who uses xp-pen, even with the older model, I really like it and I'll stick with the company a while longer....unless Wacom has some kind of magical sale or something...then we'll see 😁😏
Thank you, Hopefully picking up my Xp Pen Pro 24 tomorrow. =)
Dude...you saved my life. I have the xppen 22 and wanted to upgrade. I wanna get the Artist Pro 24
Glad I could help!
@@TaylorStine I got it! Love it!!!! ❤️
I literally got the Cintiq Pro 22 yesterday, and the pixelated screen was really noticable. I totally agree. I'll prob return it and get the XP-Pen
Update - I got the Huion Kamvas 16. Very happy with it. Works amazingly.
Hi! Did you get the 2021 kamvas 16? Or the newer 2022 one
This was the more honest review I have seen on a while, really, I was ALMOST going to get the Cintiq 22 and then started to see more and more good messages about XP-PEN Artist pro 24... awesomeness, and how it felt really as good as the Cintiq top dog 24 pro, but by far more affordable.
So glad I could help! Thanks for watching, I really appreciate it.
Awesome review! I am trying to decide on the XP.
Thanks! It's a nice tablet, I've been using the Huion 24 4K and have been really enjoying it too.
Really helpful review! Thanks for including little shots of your daughter. Reminds me of 33 years ago when my son was about 6 months old, holding him and trying to get work done on the computer. Cherish those memories.
😢 😢 😢 This hit me hard (in a good way). I can't bear to look at old photos because I feel like it was just yesterday we brought her home from the hospital, and now she's telling me she loves me to acquire more dessert.
Thank you so much, Taylor Stine!! This was so easy to follow and massively helpful. THANK YOU!!!
I have a Cintiq 16 and while I do love using it I also have a few rather negative things to say about Wacom lately. Especially in regards to the screen on the regular Cintiqs. They wear out like the regular Wacom tablets. Fast. After only 1 - 2 years I had that very smooth spot where I would usually draw and due to some minor surface scratching the tablet also had some strwaks of chromatic abberation. And they do NOT offer replaceable screen protectors. On surface that recieves mechanic wear, constantly. That is for me the biggest problem with the cheap cintiq line.
After nearly 30 years of using Wacom products I am also ready to give one of their competitors a try. It's really good to hear from the perspective of someone who just bought all pen displays for the first time. Thanks. Hope you got a good price back for the ones you didn't use ^^
Great no-BS review. A lot more informative than other reviews of the same products.
I have to watch a lot of presentations at work that have a ton of fluff, so I figured I would try to spare my viewers the same torture 😁
i didnt look this video up but it was recommended, so i guess it's a good sign for your channel. pls keep doing your style of content, no bs but entertaining
Thank you! this made me smlie :)
Hey thanks, I just saved 1200 bucks, almost bought the Wacom. Least I can do is give a like.
I just returned my XP Pen tablet (same as the one in the video) after 2 months of use. Issues I had:
1.Express keys constantly resetting (once every 10-20 minutes) to factory settings
2.Express keys malfunctioning and spamming by themselves
3.Tablet doesn't work if it's not being set as a main display (you can use the pen but the cursos will be on your main monitor which defeats the purpose of a screen tablet)
4. Sometimes out of the blue the tablet would enter in sleep mode even if you're currently working on it. You can fix it ONLY by restarting your computer (turning on and off just the tablet doesn't work)
These are all complaints I never heard from cintiq users. So I returned it and I'm going to save some money to get a cintiq, hope that will fix.
Disclaimer: There are people that are not experiencing those problems at all, my friend has an xp pen pro 16 and is really happy with it. Maybe its just a compatibility issue with my pc, I don't know.
Ugh! that's so unfortunate -- this only cropped up 2 months after you got it? I haven't seen anything like that, but this is a really good thing to know! It's great that they let you return it -- hopefully you had a good customer service experience.
@@TaylorStine I'm from romania so I didn't interact with them but with the local store I bought it from. I paid a little extra to be able to return it in 2 months, seems like it paid off. However...I believe I bought an already defect product, hopefully they will fix it if they don't accept the return.
The 24 pro is actually around the price you mentioned for the non touch now. I am going for it, I want to see what it's like to draw on a big fancy screen. XD
Man I really rarely comment on videos, but one thing needs to be said! This is an excellent and super honest and relatable video for normal people. I can't understand how your channel is still so small. Hoping for the best for you! Enjoyed watching the video a lot
I really appreciate this! That was pretty much my entire goal for my videos so it makes me so happy to hear you say that. More good stuff to come!
amazing video!! SUPER CUTE BABY! I'm still torn, I wish i had the balls to buy all 3 just to test LOL. I was really considering the 22 but now after this I'm considering just sending it and going for the pro 24.
Thank you! You know how when you drink a lot of coffee and suddenly everything seems possible? Basically what happened 😁. The pro 24 is the main one if used, and except for the lack of a good stand, I've loved it.
@@TaylorStine omg I love coffee LOL I totally understand, daily drinker here! I’m working on my own NFT collection right now and I’ve came a strangely far way drawing with my mouse which is surprisingly fine but I feel like to speed up my process and really use my skills to my best ability I feel like I should just get one asap ! before trying digital art I was mainly a painter but always felt discouraged because I’d never wanted to sell something I took so long to make if that makes sense? But with digital art/NFTs it’s just so much different! Digital art overall makes me feel more confident that I can be an artist for a living I guess haha
ha right?? Same!
That makes sense to me -- if you pour so much effort into something you've made by hand, it's difficult to let it go. I feel the same way when I give away the pottery I make (which is terrible, but still). With NFTs, you can at least feel like you still have some ownership!
You might even consider a non-display tablet -- the Wacom Intuous Pro I started using was really great and if you're already used to using a mouse it should be a pretty easy switch.
@@TaylorStine exactlyyyyy! right! it's cool knowing it exists in the metaverse instead of it only being a tangible item that could become damaged over time! I will definitely look into that!! I think that might be the most reasonable tablet to start with in my case then maybe later on I'll see if I want to upgrade!
THANK YOU! Fellow parent and 'ambitious amateur' who was equally nonplussed by all the existing reviews. I also have had hands on the Wacoms at illustration conferences; I agree there felt like there was a pricing mismatch. My fellow art friends are "all-in" on Wacom and I still couldn't feel like it was worth it. PS. I use a matte screen protector on my iPad that should help with the 'pen on glass' feeling of the XP Pen. So, all in all, I think I will just keep waiting and using the iPad until there's better options out there. I personally hate that the bezel of the wacom is 3-4 inches of wasted desk space. Honestly hoping someone in the TV monitor market will see this niched gap and come fill it. Quickly.
Love hearing from a fellow parent! The struggle is real (I'm finding, now that the little one in that video is 1 🥺). There's definitely something to be said for the clout of the name "Wacom". I haven't been able to evaluate longevity since I've only had the tablets for a few months, but the Intuous S I had still runs great.
I have an iPad too, and I totally agree that matt screen protector is a life saver. You almost can't even use the iPad when you first open it without that protector. I wish they made that for a bigger tablet, I would buy it immediately (maybe I could just paste a few on together 😅.
The bezel takes up SO much space compared to a tablet without. I'm currently trying out the Huion Kamvas 24 plus pro, which has no bezels, and I didn't realize how much it annoyed me until they weren't there.
Thanks for the comment!
this is THE review I've been looking for. God, I wasted so much time watching so much content from people who have good points but don't have the same "use case" in digital art as me, thus irrelevant, or just people who don't have good points and just needed content (and sponsor money) for TH-cam channel stuff
I'm so glad you enjoyed it! What sort of digital art are you working on out of curiosity?
@@TaylorStine oh I needed it for classes in my game art degree, ranging from animation and drawing classes to 3D modeling and etc, as well as hobby game development with my girlfriend. we're making a game about an otter living in a jungle forest full of waterslides 🌊🦦 and I ended up getting xp-pen pro 16
this review was really helpful and to the point! im a student planning on pursuing a career in professional art and im leaning more towards the cintiq pro 24 than the xp pen because of the 4k display and better feel, but my only concerns are the infamous amount of hardware and software issues with the cintiq 24 and the extra $700 for the stand which is crazy. i figure that if i have the extra money i should just throw it on the cintiq 24 and live with it since i'm going to need a good pen display in the future anyways, but I also want to wait a bit in case xp-pen or huion releases a 4k 24 display sometime soon. once again i really appreciate this combined review!!
Thank you for the kind words! I really think you can't go wrong with the Cintiq Pro, especially if you're a student just starting your art career. You'll keep it for a long time. One thing I would consider is, will you have a permanent desk? If not, you might consider a smaller tablet. I have a review of the Huion Kamvas Pro 16 coming out and if I were a student that may be the one I chose for the size and price (The Cintiq Pro also comes in a 16" option).
A fantastic review! You're such a lovely person and how you weighted your criticism is absolutely relatable to me.
I wasn't even looking for any of these models and I still feel very informed, thanks for that! I hope all of you are doing good, if not, great!
I really appreciate this! I'm so happy you enjoyed it. We're hanging in there 😅
I've been torn between the new huion and cintiq. Your review is so helpful
Glad I could help! 🙂
Huion 22 pro is good value. It's not as good as Wacom but unless you had a Wacom that's not an issue and at hundreds of dollars less you will forget Wacom within a few weeks. Just be sure to get radiation filter and monitor glasses bcz the thing is bright. Maybe one day Wacom will devastate all competition by knocking 500$ off of their flagship models, but until then you can spend that same amount on an excellent workhorse.
Man, I hope you know how much I appreciate this video. I've got into pixel art and remastering photos on photoshop. I've been looking at a few tablets these 3 are in my top 10 of things I'm narrowing down to purchase and you answered one of my big questions about the Pen Pro. I think I'm going to pull the trigger and get that one, because you guys are in such another level of me that, that tablet is all I'll ever need until I get good enough for a upgrade and by then they'll probably have something better. Thanks for making such a informative video and saving me money.
Happy I could help! Pixel art is like magic to me -- I don't know how you do it, but I think it's so cool. Are you doing that for game development?
This was a great review and I truly appreciate you doing it. All the best!
Thank you for buying all of them and giving an honest review. Helped me a lot on deciding which tablet to buy.
Thank you friend...!, You compare very well. That, It's my problem. I hesitate between XP Pen 24 and Cintiq 22.
Happy to help, thanks for watching!
I'm quite curious why most of testers on yt did not see the big differences between wacom and chinese tablets in drawing feelings. In my opinion huion (so probably also xp-pen) have big difference in how you feel the surface you are drawing on. The feeling of drawing on huion is like drawing on normal screen with mate surface. I mean screen of monitor. You dont feel it is so comfortable like in wacom. It feels very cheap for me. I think I could live with lower resolution, a bit worse colors but the experience of drawing i think is most important in these devices. Probably you also chose cintiq pro over xp pen;).
I dont know why you dont recommend 22hd if it have the same screen surface as cintiq pro and same pen?
and thanks for review!
I totally agree, the feel is the most important part of the tablet. The Cintiq Pro did feel a little better, but someone recommended I try the Huion felt tip pens, and I have to say that really improved my experience on the Kamvas screen. Really close to how the Cintiq pro felt, it was a really minor difference so it's hard to complain.
I didn't feel like the 22 Cintiq had the same pen-on-screen feel as the Cintiq Pro. The Cintiq Pro felt much better by comparison. I thought the XP-Pen was really good by comparison.
Happy I could help!
@@TaylorStine Ok, you're right. On wacom cintiq 22hd is different surface than on cintiq pro. My bad.
I checked it today.
Thank you for your review...... I was going nuts trying to figure out the same questions you had.
I finally purchased the XP Pen Pro w bluetooth for my daughter for her birthday prior to watching your awesome video. Glad I made the right choice and took the blue pill!!! LOL : )
This makes me happy to hear, I'm so glad I could help. All the best to you and your daughter!
Illustrator here. I own an XP-PRO 22 and a Wacom Cintiq 24pro touch (I also have an iPad Pro, 3 wacom intuos tablets and a Cintiq 13). So I agree that Wacom is expensive, I’ve always wanted to own one since my art school days in the early 2000’s. BUT, you get what you pay for, once you try a wacom, nothing feels as good (only the iPad). It’s the best investment you can make. They also last well over 10+ years. I’ve noticed that people who tend to say that XP or Huion are better are on a budget. Also, most of the reviewers are ok artists, your work is amazing. All my professional friends own Wacom Cintiqs. As a matter of fact, I was trying to get rid of the XP to one of my friends (who is a successful 3D artist) and he returned it even though i was giving it away. I also wanted to love the XP, but it always felt cheap and unnatural. I took the dive and got the 24Pro Touch last year and it just feels so good, feels premium. If you have the money, buy the Wacom, if you don’t have the money, save up for a wacom.
Wow, that's a lot of tablet experience! This is great insight. I'm with you -- the Cintiq Pro feels really good. If you're a professional and using it to make money, it's the right one to go with. My Intuous Pro has lasted for years so I can only assume the Cintiq will have good longevity.
I want to find a way to evaluate the longevity of the other brands (I've heard some comments that they have issue but haven't experienced anything myself). I have an iPad pro as well, but I'm not as good on it as I am on the big tablet (I recently got it so I'm still learning). But it does feel pretty good, especially with one of those paper screen protectors.
Thanks, this is great info!
@@TaylorStineif you want durability go for and wacom intuos pro (non screen tablet). There’s something funny in some comments. If you are a pro you don’t need a screen tablet. You can buy one of course, but it isn’t a must. Non Screen tablets are more recommendable, they last way longer, they have a wonderful feel or sensation using the pen on the surface of the tablet. They are much cheaper and don’t spend so much electricity. If the layer of the screen start to get scratch you can easily change it. I have an intuos pro 3 since 2011 or 2012 and I’ve been using it to work professionally. I’ve never had any issue or problem. It always have worked smoothly. So, if you want to buy a screen tablet because you think it’s cooler go ahead, but don’t think about it as more professional because it isn’t. It’s just another way to work.
This is something I'm starting to realize -- I just took Steve Hampton's figure drawing class and he only uses a Intuous without a screen. I remember trying to do this at the time but it was really challenging for me to map my hand movement to the monitor. Now that I've had more practice I'm going to give it another go because I suspect that you're right on the money.
after using Wacom intuos and cintiq 13hd for years i was ready for and upgrade as far a the screen goes, i was ready to put that bill on my CC and after diving deep on the unboxing review work of youtube i decided to save my money and pull the trigger on the xp-pen 24 pro, i don not regret it, yes you can tell the built quality difference but as far as being able to work there is no difference, i do like the buttons one the side, is great for shortcuts. Xp-pen is incredible !
I totally agree, XP pen may not be as flashy or well known but they really get the job done. I'm glad your happy with your tablet! I think you made a great call, it's so hard to know until you've used it for a little while.
I had the XP-Pen22r Pro for 2 and half years, and didn’t have any issues until a few weeks ago. The display suddenly had green vertical lines running along the entire screen. Messaged their support, and they couldn’t do anything about it so it’s basically dead. Had to use my Cintiq 13HD (almost 10+ years old) and it still worked with no issue. So after this I’ll be getting Wacom for the longer term investment
I wish I could measure this better in my reviews, since it's not the first time I've heard of it happening. I'm just going to keep using my Kamvas tablet until something bad happens, the I'm going to re-review / freak out. For now, everything is working well though.
I was thinking of buying a drawing tablet too. This video was recommended to me. Definitely going to check the XP-pen.
So awesome to hear that this was able to help! And I’m glad it was recommended ☺️. Thanks for watching!
Taylor, Thank you! That was very helpful. Great presentation and great visuals.
I'll get back to you with a "catch phrase" idea later. Again, thank you!
You should've tried the Huion display tablets, they're cheap and from what I heard they're very good as well.
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Algorithm definitely screwed up. It’s a lot of work to buy all of these and do a concise review.
I’ve been talking about starting a product review channel where I review everything I buy and then just keep the reviews short… but I never get around to it. So way to go for getting around to it!!!
Thanks for your support! And you should just go for it, honestly committing to buying the tablets was the hardest part. Once I got over that, the rest was easy. And the amount of fun I've had responding to comments and making other videos have really made the purchases worth while.
I subbed so I can see your first video when it comes out :)
I'd love to get an XP-PEN... too bad Toon Boom Harmony was specifically engineered to only work with Wacom tablets : ' D
The 22inch model is very old, I would have suggested buying the cintiq 16 Pro. Its MUCH cheaper than the 24 inch model and has the newest technology and the highest resolution screen which you may not use while drawing but you can still use the resolution to see the image as it would be as a finished product. I have just ordered the latest iteration of the Wacom 16 inch Pro. I also think the size is really good if using it over many hours as its not so large requiring a great deal of arm, hand and head movement while using.
Once I tried out the 16" Kamvas Pro, I realized I should have probably given the 16" Cintiq pro a go as well. The 16" size is really nice because you can actually have room on your desk for other stuff.
have you tried the x3 chip pen on the XP-PEN 16 PRO? Would love to see a pen comparison vs Wacom
Not yet, but I'll check it out!
I have the xp pen artist 22 E and actually love it better than my Wacom mobile studio pro 13''. I used to be a Wacom purist, but I could. get a much bigger tablet than I could with Wacom due to not wanting to bankrupt myself. Also your honesty, humor, and cute daughter earned a sub. Hi new friend.
Thank you! I had a tough time getting going today, and I needed to see this 😊.
I just took a look at the specs for the 22 E, and that looks like a really great tablet. Based on my experience with the Artist display pro, I'm not surprised it can compete with Wacom. Glad you're enjoying it!
@@TaylorStine I'm glad I helped, :) This is a fantastic video and deserves all the love.
I was actually, the only thing I hate about it is the cheap pen like you described after being used to the nice and sturdy Wacom ones lol. But they fixed a lot of the icky "bounce" it used to have! its a bit more firm now.
@@yaminogame7805 😊😊. I really wish they made a premium pen, even if it was $100 I would still probably buy it. Then it would really rival the Cintiq pro. Ha I'll send them an email and tell them that 😁.
This is not the review we wanted, it is the review we needed
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6:25 LMAOOO why no one would notice this timing lolllll that's sooooooo cute ! so i subscribe for u
😁😁 it's my favorite part of the video. Thank you!
Wow I just researched how much the XP pen tablet is and it cost the same as the cintiq Hd 13” that I purchased in 2016 💀
Tragically, tech really flies by. Don't even get me started on how much it annoys me to buy new phones for this exact reason 🙄.
Months later... what book were you flipping through? Looked like a gesture drawing guide
By far the best book on figure drawing I've used:
www.amazon.com/Figure-Drawing-Invention-Michael-Hampton/dp/0615272819/
I only wish huion 24 pro could've been included. Excellent best review
I have that one on the way 😁 - I'm taking my time to make sure there aren't any long term quality issues to report!
Bro I’m so glad I came across this vid. Was just about to cop that regular Wacom 22. Going with the XP Pen instead. Thanks.
Great review and great sense of humor. Thanks!
5:35 that's funny, subbed!
😅😅 happy to have you along!
Thank you for the very helpful review. Great quality content and you’ve helped us make a decision. Thank you!
Thanks, you helped me a lot to make a choice!
i just purchased the EX-PEN 21.5 pro and i think it is suitable for my transition to digital art from sketchbooks and old fashion media. I m very much looking forward to learn how to use it and create stuff.
You can scale the layout to make them bigger and easy to read on the Cintiq Pro 24 without sacrificing the resolution. I did it on mine (increase to 150%) and the screen looks so clean and sharp. Plus the texts are readable instead of being tiny
I'm with that - even though I've had my eyes lasered 🤓 I still have a lot of trouble reading when the UI is set to 100%. I think right now I have it at 125% and I'm trying to train myself to just deal with it
@@TaylorStine 150% is the sweet spot I recommend if 125% doesn't seem to work
By the way, I have a question, does your wacom cintiq pro 24 disconnects from the PC every time you turn the screen off if you're not using it? Trying to look up if this is normal, since old models, I can turn off the screen without the annoying windows disconnect chime sound blaring and it stays connected.
This is an amazing review, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
I've been trying to make up my mind about buying the XP PEN Artist 24 Pro. I think I'm gonna go ahead and buy it.
It's a great tablet!
Never comment on videos but yours was so honest and relatable and saved so much bullshit from the other reviews I had to say well done and subscribed and liked fair play man
Thank you so much, this really means a lot to me. Glad to have you along for the ride, there's going to be more good stuff coming! I won't let you down 😁
Huion just announced their 4K display line! So that’s another option. Thanks for the honest review. :)
Ha I just got an ad for that! Much appreciated, I'll check them out 😁
@@TaylorStine no problem! It looks promising!
I loved every minute of this video. The way he delivers the jokes, haha, smooth af.
finally a review from someone that actually bought it
I felt like it was the only way to give a real honest review. Glad you enjoyed it!
Great vid, dropping comment to support. Hope you got your money back on the unrequited tablets
Fantastic, may I ask you what specs is your Pc in this video? Thanks!
Yes! (I should probably put that in the description):
Windows 10 (Home)
Intel Core i7-8700K
GIGABYTE Z370 AORUS Gaming 5
Corsair Vengeance LPX 16GB DDR4 ram (4 sticks, 64 GB).
Nvidia RTX 2080 Ti GPU
A bunch of SSDs, and HDDs.
@@TaylorStine Awesome! Thanks again.
Dude ambitious amateur is an amazing description haha It is even more annoying how they name all these tablets now too makes it even harder to search.
😁I know every time I say the name of one I have to look up to make sure I did it correctly. It's almost as bad as Razer keyboards...
Thank you for this review, very helpful! I've had the same question for a while now, is Wacom overpriced because sure seemed that they are. I am looking at Wacom XP Pen and Huion, also glad you mentioned the touch part, I could see some benefit but I think not for another $700 or so just for touch.
dude thank you for the vid! saved me money!
😁🤑 happy to help you save!
thanks for the review but I'm all 2D and have a Cintiq 21UX that I've had for over a decade. I bought an older XP Pen because I needed one at work and being a contractor, they didn't buy one for me. It was a 22 inch but I didn't care much for it compared to my old Cintiq. The pen made a squeaky plastic noise whenever I drew and the buttons weren't programmable independently of the sides. Sooo... I'm just going to keep using my 21UX and wait for Cintiq to come out with something I'm going to love or wait for a competitor to make something comparable.
I know what you're talking about when it comes to the feel of the pen on the screen. That is the biggest thing I think the Cintiq has over the Huion and XP-Pen tablets I've tried (it's so hard to beat their pricing though). I've found that the felt nibs that come with the Huion pen actually really help reduce that squeakiness -- but they're a little bit of a softer feel when you draw.
You might consider the Cintiq Pro, it is a really good tablet and probably has good longevity. Especially considering your a professional, it may be worth the investment. It's the tablet I use ever day (or at least when my parenting duties allow) and I do like the feel of the pen on the screen.
The thing with Wacom that so many artist agree is that it’s tablets that have better lifetime proof than others brands
thank you for the video. When I bought the Apple iPad 12.9" Pro 1.5 years ago, I stopped using the Wacom 22" Cintq and sold it.
With the Apple iPad I feel I have better control with the thin pen (compared to the Wacom Pen).
Even though I have less surface area for gesture drawing and can't rest the palm always of my hand on it, I strangely get better results when drawing dynamic figures.
The same applies to my "second" tablet, the Samsung Ultra Tab S8.
I somehow have the impression that Wacom is no longer the Mercedes of pen displays in the lower price segment.
I can't say anything about the Wacom Pro series.
Yesterday I went to in a computer shop to try out the wacom again because I want to check out the current pen displays.
Because I am meantime used to draw on smooth glas surface, the paperlike surface and the thick wacom pen was confusing to me.
But what holds me back with xpen or huion is that you can only order online and there is no local store where you can try out the devices and in the case of a warranty give them back without shipping costs.
Thank you for the interesting video.
Yeah that's the thing a lot of people misunderstand about Wacom: the Cintiq Pro and Intuos Pro lines are great, but they're definitely victims of the land of diminishing returns. You're basically paying a x2 premium for a 10-15% increase in performance that non-pros are most likely not going to appreciate.
Huion and XP-PEN are rapidly bridging the gap with their more premium tiers, like Huion's 4k Kamvas Pro models @4k. But even those are suffering a similar effect. (Baseline 16" Pro w/1080p display = $399, 16" Pro w/4k display = $850-899)
So far Wacom is still the king of premium. (For now.) Especially when it comes to the subtle little things that don't really translate onto a spec sheet, like the intangible improvement in drawing experience you mentioned. :)
It's so true. When you buy new tech is also so hard not to want the "upgrade" version even if you don't necessarily need it. I've definitely fallen victim to that 😁. Great points!
Hello, what anatomy book did you read while recording this video?
I've been reading through "Figure drawing design and Invention" by Michael Hampton. I also reference "Anatomy for sculptures" while I sculpt (but it can be information overload).
My wife also has this great yoga book that shows the anatomy of poses but I can't find it right now to look up the title 😬
@@TaylorStine Thank you for your answer!
Pure joy watching this review s2
Dad! Just want to say this help another Dad(me)! Thanks a lot
Dad power! Always good to hear from another dad, the struggle is real. Glad we're in it together!
Most honest review. thank you :)
You're welcome 😁
You crushed this
Best review, simplicity is all we need
This is the review i was looking for, but im curious why cintiq 22 hd had so bad impact on you. Was that really bad? How is the drawing feeling comparised to xp-pen? I bought this tablet 2 years a go and im planning to change for something similar in size, might be 16 inch as well. there is so many brands on the market. Is Xp-Pen still the best choice over wacom 22hd ? Thank you for your review!
A big reason why I wasn’t excited about the Cinq 22 HD was the price point especially when compared to the quality of the XP pen. I may have been a little bit callous here I know that there are some really quality artists that do amazing things with the Cinq 22 had.
It was maybe close to the feel of the XP pen but I thought the display didn’t look as good as the XP pen. I have a Huion Kamvas Pro 22 inch I’m planning on reviewing, so that’s one option and you might consider the Cinq Pro 16. The Cintiq Pro has become the primary tablet I use and even though I believe it’s over priced it does feel the best. So depending on what you’re planning on doing with it or how much you’re planning on using it it might be worth the money for you to get the upgrade pick.
Hope that helps!
I got the 16" cintiq for $700. Not sure if that's a great price or not... I do zbrush sculpting.
Based on the price I paid for the 22", I think you got a good deal. The 16" is probably a really good option (I have a separate video about 16 vs 24 inch) but basically I think there are a lot of advantages to getting a smaller size.
A big one for me (I do a lot of zbrush too) is that on most tablets you can use the 16" as a pen tablet without a display, so you're not covering up your model with your hand while you sculpt (which was the hardest thing for me to over come).
@@TaylorStine Thanks, I just got mine yesterday. Is the cintiq portable? Can I sculpt without hooking it up to the computer? Never tried it, does it have it's own battery?
@@murrowboy I have a 16" kamvas pro and that fits nicely into a standard 15" laptop sleeve, so it's definitely portable and I would imagine the Cintiq is the same. I don't think you can use it without a computer though. Depending on the poly count of your sculpt though, that may be a good thing if you need the processing power.
Thanks for making this video, I was about to save up for the Cintiq 22
Glad I could help out!
I would use XP-Pen If I don't wanna touch the screen and I wanna have a great display that comes with great customizable buttons. I would choose Cintiq Pro for the touch screen and its great resolution and its great texture. and one thing that made Cintiq Pro more expensive is the touch screen sensor.
Interesting, I never tried the touch screen but I have an iPad that I've been using and it is really convenient to be able to navigate around a sketch with just touch (rather than needing to press a button and drag the pen).
Does Cintiq 22 need an extra screen protector ?
I've heard of products like that (and I have one on my iPad that makes the screen feel more like paper) but I haven't tried one. It would probably be helpful, but even still I didn't like the way the display of the Cintiq 22 as much.
This was made on my b day
Thanks! This video really help me a lot.
I'm glad it helped!
Hello hello my wacom is taking over as the primary monitor, I can't seem to fix it, does any one have the same problem?
I was having that issue for a little bit -- all of the games I wanted to play launched there by default. I have a Windows 10 PC and I think I just messed wit the primary monitor setting in Settings > System > Display. You might also try a different display port.
@@TaylorStine thanks for the reply, I haven't figured that out yet, I will try a different port, which means I need to disconnect and reconnect the line, currently I'm using the display port, but I will switch to HDMI to see, thank you!
THANK YOU 🙏
Very helpful video. Thank you so much!
I'm glad it helped 😄
Thank you! Very informative
You're welcome!