For everybody to unterstand that: "I can't explain it. I was actually in one of my best positions at that corner when it went. It looked silly and stupid but better it happens today than tomorrow." Ayrton Senna after spin on a Training session in Aida “I messed up the transition from active suspension [in 1993] back to passive and designed a car that was aerodynamically unstable, in which Ayrton attempted to do things the car was not capable of doing.” Adrian Newey Paddy Lowe, who had left Williams for McLaren in 1994, said in 2014, "Aerodynamic experimentation in those days was not sophisticated enough to understand the ride height sensitivity of aero. In the windtunnel now we run ride height sweeps, steer sweeps, roll sweeps, and yaw sweeps, plus a load more. Back then, if a typical model was running different front and rear ride heights in a straight line, you were at the leading edge of sophistication. "That would mean the impact of introducing a much wider range of ride heights on circuit [through not having active suspension] would be greater than people were perhaps able to deal with. I’m making this up really to fit what we observed. Certainly Ayrton really struggled with the Williams in the early season, and some of his complaints would fit that theory." Newey said to the German Auto, Motor & Sport magazine in 2015 that "[The 1994 Nogaro test] ... confirmed that the car's side pods were too long, which meant that the aero were split from the diffuser when the nose of the car dipped and the side-pods got too close to the track" "... our car was in pole position in all 3 races, but that was Ayrton. No other driver could do that with this car". The Williams Car (FW16) was springy and unstable, with aerodynamic deficiencies. After little modifications for Imola Senna said is "worse" than before. Gerhard Berger recalled a conversation he had with Senna at the race in which Senna said "We are now finally aware of the problem with this car and in two or three weeks from now the problems should be solved." Senna was right. Following the Imola changes the car was again incrementally updated and labelled as FW16B by the German Grand Prix. This version featured a longer wheelbase, revised front and rear wing, shortened sidepods and the compulsory opened rear on the airbox and cowling in accordance with FIA regulations following the accidents at Imola. The shortened sidepods arose due to a necessity to use larger bargeboards after the front wing endplate diffusers were banned. This version of the car proved to be very fast. Hill closes the gap to Schumacher a little and fights for the championship. I copied the text and shared it here because it is very informative. It was a comment under another senna video
Some of this is true, but not all and a lot of it is out of context. - Senna was actually happy with the setup after getting pole, for the first time ever being happy with the car - The car was sometimes unstable and unpredictable, however aero instability translates to very visible traits in the car's behavior. Those were not observed when he crashed at Tamburello - His movements in the cockpit (hands, head, helmet in mirror) are not consistent with oversteer or opposite lock correction, but consistent with aiming to go left with a steering system that is collapsing in his hands - Tamburello was not the type of place where car insufficiencies show. It was a fast, flat out bends not one of those tricky places where there is braking, specific entry to follow, specific liens to follow, and getting back on the throttle. - Cars today (for some time now) are very different from the cars back then. Today's cars have stepped floors (and a small horizontal bulge in the middle which can constrict and therefore accelerate the airlfow), numerous complex aero elements (even the front wing is not one piece anymore), all working together in unison and creating a complex system of vortices, where some of those vortices seal off the sides of the car, crating a ground effect. The air is scooped differently under the nose and the floor is a lot more important in generating downforce. Early 90s cars had flat floors and air was scooped entirely over the small horizontal plane of the floor protruding under the cockpit. The cars bottomed all the time, even when they had active suspension. The cars were running very low, while today's cars are often more raised in the rear than necessary. Note the ground effects cars of the late 70s/early 80s were also much higher. Also the FW16 had a blown diffuser - If anything, an alleged slide at the speed at Tamburello would have been more visible and more violent. So it is the modification to the steering column (with undisputed fatigue cracking after only 1 fast lap of racing) that turned out to be the fatal flow. Otherwise the car was getting better already at Imola, despite the design deficiencies it had.
@@VWaudiRULEs From every source I have seen up to this day, NONE said he was happy. I have even heard some interviews of him to brazilian radios and certainly happy was not something you could acknowledge from them. I bet your source must have misinterpreted whilst he was indeed very confident for the race saying he was happy about the car.
@@danieldbdb Actually Senna said during the Warm Up that he was happy with the car and told his mechanics not to touch it anymore. It wasn't perfect yet (that wouldn't happen until Newey introduced the modified rear a couple of races later), but it was better than at the previous 2 GPs. In any case, the car's instability was irrelevant in the circumstances surrounding the accident at Tamburello. He was cornering, then suddenly he wasn't. There was no oversteer, no correction, just the car going straight on. Senna decided to brake as much as possible. He would have never done that if he could steer left and avoid impact. It was a very shallow corner, easily flat out with minimum amount of steering and low lateral g-force. It didn't require any skill at all. As the person commenting above said, if there was an actual oversteer at such high speed, it would have been very violent and obvious. You can see that in numerous such incidents, particularly on ovals. If he lost it by overcorrection, the car would have shot right at a much greater angle, tyres sliding and smoking, and the impact would have been at a higher speed too.
@@hristoitchov now we must not confuse things here. He was unhappy with the car overall that year. He knew it had crappy aerodinamics and a powerful engine. Newey later described in his book what problem that car had. Now, if you talk about that race specifically, yes he thought he would win and Michael also said he thought he would lose, because in their view San Marino was more favourable for the Renault engine. Senna was going for 1 stop and Michael for 2. He was very unlikely to be overtaken on the track due to the engine, so Michael's only shot to win the race was to overtake Ayrton on the start with the lighter car, which he almost did. Senna would probably unfurl that austrian flag he carried with himself on the car after the race, in honor of Roland Ratzenberger.
Perfect onboard footage of Senna's car during a not important warm up but ... at the very crash moment the image fails... this is something I still cannot accept as alright
I wish all the vids from this race weekend were of this quality. Thank you. Great shot onboard of the steering wheel not flexing as they claimed it did.
The moment John Watson describes the unpredictability of the '94 cars and how they would just break away and there isn't much a driver can do about it, Senna was rounding Tamburello...
That scenario wouldn't account for tamburello in a car that didn't have a failure. It was a simple corner, even for a car at the back of the grid. Even the 1980 F1 cars took that corner flat out easily.
They were also talking about the strength of the monocoque to a carbon fibre specialist when roland crashed on sat camera was on tossa bend check it out very strange.
0:25 Senna corrige o carro. Adrian Newey sustenta a versão de que Senna tentou corrigir a traseira do carro na Tamburello. Ele sabe exatamente o que aconteceu, mas nunca vai admitir o erro.
barra de direção quebrou, segundo os testes do ex-diretor de competição da Ferrari, Mauro Forghieri, e do presidente da Faculdade de Engenharia da Universidade de Bolonha, Enrico Lorenzini testes de laboratório com microscópio eletronico comprovou que a coluna de direção se quebrou antes da batida do carro contra o muro, e não depois. A polícia rodoviária e a Universidade de Bolonha colocaram algumas máquinas na pista de Imola, testes realizados com aparelhos ingleses, medições no local apontaram que a pista oferecia excelente aderência e não apresentava ondulação. Na camera colocada dentro do carro, a mão de Senna tenta uma correção de trajetória para a esquerda, mas as rodas permanecem retas, perfeitamente alinhadas. Existe diferença entre o rompimento do metal de forma instantânea e abrupta, e quando ele se rompe por fadiga de material (esforço repetitivo com aparecimento de estrias). A parte fraturada da coluna de direção do carro de Senna mostrou uma área com estrias de fadiga de 60%. A contra prova, foi feita no laboratório do Centro dell’Aeronautica Militare di Pratica di Mare, em Pornezia, próximo a Roma, o microscópio eletrônico apontou que 70% do setor ao redor do local de fratura apresentava estrias de fadiga. Senna não terminaria a corrida devido as avarias da barra de direção, que se romperia de qualquer modo, seu azar foi ela se romper no exato momento em que tangenciava a curva tamburello
Isso mesmo, @maconheiro de humanas. Apenas quanto ao local do rompimento da coluna de direção, não foi propriamente azar, porque a força aplicada sobre a peça é proporcional à velocidade do carro. Então, como aquele era o ponto de maior velocidade do circuito, o mais provável seria romper ali mesmo. Infelizmente.
Our great champion Ayrton Senna dominating a car full of problems in his arm and also dominating the "doped" Benetton that had technology that helped the weak German driver.
Not only the best race driver ever, but also the most charismatic one. And there will never be a race driver like AYRTON SENNA DA SILVA. FOREVER ON POLE-POSITION !!!!! Moroccan fan. ACCELERA AYRTON !!
So obvious the '94 cars are a handful to keep on the track. Interlagos and Aida didn't have many fast sections in a row, Imola showed successives fast corners to be hazardous to be handled. What we saw in Spain was a preventing measure, a bit late...
Barrichello was the only driver of the three major crashes during the weekend, who made a mistake. The other two that sadly took the lives of Senna and Roland, had nothing to do with 1994 cars being a handful. They were both car failures.
@@nessuno5403 Yeah...its sad to say this but its unlikely that he would've accomplished anything of significance in F1 had he lived. Simtek didn't have a car that you could do much of anything...
The FIA could have posponed the race, due to Ratzenberger ontrack death. The Italian laws were in that way, back in those days. But, "unfortunately" Ratzenberger was legally declared dead at the Bologna Hospital ... So the Imola circuit wasn't shut. It was somehow up to the FIA and the FOCA / FOM to do something about this race.
Jérôme indeed. If all else fails, they could have waited for a new steering column steel tube to be built and replace the old one instead of that poorly done welding job they did, wich ultimately killed him on race day
Also could have stayed under safety car longer and allowed teams to pit ,as they could of picked up debris from JJ lehto car,the cones wouldn't of cost alot to put down and would of saved sennas life
That car was a piece of shit, only thing that was keeping in the forefront was the Renault v10, williams didn't handle the 94 regulation change well in the beginning of the year. And we all know bennaton was sneaking in their TCS/LC
Even with three changing, but equally incompetitive 2nd pilots all year, and with MSC disqualified from 2 races, plus banned from another two, Benetton only lacked 15 points to Williams. If there would've been equal conditions for both teams at the green table, the FW16 wouldn't have won the constructors' championship.
A parte traseira do carro batia muito no solo e tinha uma aerodinâmica ruim o ar não circulava bem por baixo do carro, a curva de alta velocidade da Tamburello tinha falhas de recapeamento isso fez com que o carro perdesse aderência na dianteira fazendo o carro perder completamente a direção, sinceramente nem gosto de olhar o que aconteceu com com o Senna nessa corrida meu coração gela de tristeza.
O estilo do Senna de guiar no limite e tirando tudo que era possível do carro não era compatível com esse FW16 violento e mal projetado. O redultado foi infelizmente fatal...
Sim, a patinada significava duas coisas, primeiro senna no limite o tempo todo, para vencer o schumacher que tava na cola, e segundo que nao era um passeio no parque, o carro era instavel e para bater a beneton precisava ser guiado no limite o tempo todo. E olha que tinha quase 80 cavalos a mais do que o ford v8 da beneton
@@geraldo209 isso era warmup não valia muita coisa, e foi uma saída de traseira normal, acontece, ele estava tentando saber o limite do carro ,e sim apesar de ter 80cv a mais, o benneton era muito eficiente nas curvas e tirava quase toda essa diferença nelas.o projeto do b194 era um projeto que lidava melhor com a suspensão convencional, enquanto o fw16 era um carro que foi criado e desenvolvido desde 91, ele é uma evolução do fw14 que tinha sido criado para trabalhar com a suspensão ativa. Queria ter visto essa batalha de 94 dos dois, teria sido épico.
Strange to think that out of the 23 drivers who drove during this warm-up 3 are gone (Senna, De Cesaris, Alboreto) and 1 is away from the public eye due to his medical condition (Schumacher). They are all in my thoughts...
„and a very special hello to our dear friend Alain. We all miss You, Alain.“ If that session had been part of a Hollywood movie, everyone would have said this is too sugary. One more proof that the best stories are written by life itself.
"It's the kind of thing we've been seeing a lot of in '94, what I would describe as 'unpredictability' in car handling." Hard to hear that knowing it was just before he was killed. The flaws in these cars were obvious even to those who never drove them.
He was talking about cars in 1994, like he would be talking about any F1 car with normal suspension. He never said the cars had flaws. That's you making up a story. A design flaw is a wing that is too fragile, or even a cracked steering column, due to being a bodge job in the garage.
0:25 carro arisco e instável demais!...o mesmo aconteceu no gp anterior em interlagos,onde tirou Senna da corrida...e acredito que na tamburelo tbm..saiu de traseira e ao tentar voltar pro traçado da pista senna perdeu o controle...
O carro era rápido mas instável, ele não gerava pressão aerodinâmica suficiente para o Aerofólio , o que fazia com que o carro desliza-se de traseira nas curvas, a Williams corrigiu esse problema com o novo modelo no meio da temporada de 94 mas Senna já havia falecido.
Com problemas no carro mesmo assim conquistou a pole position imagine se o carro tivesse um rendimento bom em corrida eu tenho certeza que ele seria campeão em 1994, esse carro era ótimo porém este veículo de Ayrton Senna foi avacalhado já tinha problemas de acerto estabilidade, Adrian Newey projetou um carro para auxílios eletrônicos assim como a Willians de 1993, mas com mudanças no regulamento o FW 16 se mostrou um carro ruim mas com o decorrer da temporada de 1994 eles corrigiram os erros do carro e ele se tornou competitivo também em corrida então dar pra perceber que se Senna saísse ileso do dia 1 de maio de 1994 ele seria o campeão de 1994!!!!!
Márcio Prates O carro de 94 antes de ser banido era 3 segundos mais rápido que esse, só que ele foi banido devido ao regulamento, certamente as Williams ganhariam a temporada de 94 facilmente!
@Roque Silva sabe de nada. Antes disso Senna tinha batido Prost, Mansell e Piquet. Quem era Schumacher nessa época? Nessa pista ia começar o arranque do SENNA. O que aconteceu foi uma fatalidade, que poderia acontecer com qualquer um. Pena que vitimou nosso campeão.
When you compare old years with today ,You can see that the epic driver brains that lived in the old years overcome some difficulties in a great way and also you can see that they have accomplished. There are bumps in the corner of the track.(01:47) it looks like little mountains and the pilot(driver) escapes from there with a smooth driving technique. I invite today's talents(Pilots) to the ''Variente Alta''...Come on....
What an exaggeration lol. Tamburello was an easily flat out corner. All F1 cars from 1980 could take that corner flat without problem, 'unless the car had a failure.' Michele Alboreto.
No minuto 0:27 Senna sai de traseira, o mesmo aconteceu na corrida do Brasil em que ele abandonou a corrida e o mesmo aconteceu no acidente fatal. Esse carro realmente tinha problemas sério de estabilidade
O Adrian Newey admitiu que o projeto aerodinâmico da Williams tinha defeito e o carro não gerava pressão aerodinamica limpa pra asa traseira, que de fato tornava o carro mais instável, ao longo da temporada eles lançaram uma evolução(se não me falha a memória no GP da Alemanha), mas Senna já havia falecido.
Setup feito pelo ayrton para ganha velocidade, a penalizacao eh a instabilidade, soh sobrou esse recurso pra ele para bater a beneton nesse inicio do ano.
@@geraldo209 na vdd esse carro foi desenvolvido pra usar suspensão ativa, dai quando tirou nem senna + Adrian Neway deram jeito no carro, particularmente acho q por conta de ter um motor extremamente forte..
@@rockybalboa2484 exactly, but f1 is unpredtictable. We don't know how robert kubica carrer would have evoulate if he had not a huge accident in 2011 before a f1 season
Foi uma falta de sorte muita imensa, ele tomou uma facada do braço da suspensão na cabeça. É só ver os acidentes da formula indy onde os carros batiam a 350 em um muro de concreto e o piloto nao morria com o detalhe que nem esse recuo de 10 metros nos ovais tinham, era só asfalto e concreto dos lados. Uma falta de sorte tremenda..muita.frustração
com'era nervosa quella macchina, avete visto l'uscita dalla variante alta che scarto? povero Ayrton, pensava di essersi conquistato l'auto migliore e si trovava invece a guidare una trappola...
As modificações foram feitas no sábado, o Warmup foi no Domingo, o carro estava instável no fim de semana e Ayrton estava insatisfeito com a barra de direção pois ele estava muito longe do volante, modificar uma parte dela não era em busca de melhoria no carro e sim na condução, infelizmente naquele tempo não havia tecnologia eletrônica pra regular isso de dentro do carro como atualmente há.
@@PlanetaMotorsport então, no documentário aparece o Senna falando prós engenheiros que o carro tava saindo muito de traseira, principalmente na Tamburello. Uma pena o que aconteceu com ele.
Sim devido a falta do controle de tração e aerodinâmica baixa os carros ficaram muito instáveis nas curvas, tanto que no decorrer do ano a Williams adotou uma asa traseira dupla, e depois aprimorou ela concertando parte desse problema, pena que ja era tarde demais.
@@yurecarlos2001 A asa dianteira da Benetton por ser mais larga e mais aberta fazia com que os motores recebessem mais ar e com isso facilitava a refrigeração, já a Williams tinha mais grip dianteiro e com isso o carro era mais ágil nas curvas, porém o que realmente fez diferença na temporada foi a asa traseira, a Benetton tinha um conjunto mais estável, o carro era mais flexível e equilibrado, ja a Williams teve problema em 2/3 do campeonato com sua asa traseira pois ela não recebia carga suficiente, fazendo com que o carro ficasse mais rápido porém mais instável, esse problema só foi resolvido quando instalaram um asa dupla, a Williams era o melhor carro, porém era tambem um dos mais difíceis de guiar.
For everybody to unterstand that:
"I can't explain it. I was actually in one of my best positions at that corner when it went. It looked silly and stupid but better it happens today than tomorrow." Ayrton Senna after spin on a Training session in Aida
“I messed up the transition from active suspension [in 1993] back to passive and designed a car that was aerodynamically unstable, in which Ayrton attempted to do things the car was not capable of doing.” Adrian Newey
Paddy Lowe, who had left Williams for McLaren in 1994, said in 2014, "Aerodynamic experimentation in those days was not sophisticated enough to understand the ride height sensitivity of aero. In the windtunnel now we run ride height sweeps, steer sweeps, roll sweeps, and yaw sweeps, plus a load more. Back then, if a typical model was running different front and rear ride heights in a straight line, you were at the leading edge of sophistication.
"That would mean the impact of introducing a much wider range of ride heights on circuit [through not having active suspension] would be greater than people were perhaps able to deal with. I’m making this up really to fit what we observed. Certainly Ayrton really struggled with the Williams in the early season, and some of his complaints would fit that theory."
Newey said to the German Auto, Motor & Sport magazine in 2015 that "[The 1994 Nogaro test] ... confirmed that the car's side pods were too long, which meant that the aero were split from the diffuser when the nose of the car dipped and the side-pods got too close to the track"
"... our car was in pole position in all 3 races, but that was Ayrton. No other driver could do that with this car".
The Williams Car (FW16) was springy and unstable, with aerodynamic deficiencies. After little modifications for Imola Senna said is "worse" than before.
Gerhard Berger recalled a conversation he had with Senna at the race in which Senna said "We are now finally aware of the problem with this car and in two or three weeks from now the problems should be solved." Senna was right.
Following the Imola changes the car was again incrementally updated and labelled as FW16B by the German Grand Prix. This version featured a longer wheelbase, revised front and rear wing, shortened sidepods and the compulsory opened rear on the airbox and cowling in accordance with FIA regulations following the accidents at Imola. The shortened sidepods arose due to a necessity to use larger bargeboards after the front wing endplate diffusers were banned. This version of the car proved to be very fast. Hill closes the gap to Schumacher a little and fights for the championship.
I copied the text and shared it here because it is very informative. It was a comment under another senna video
He said that at Aida, Japan the race before this one actually.
Some of this is true, but not all and a lot of it is out of context.
- Senna was actually happy with the setup after getting pole, for the first time ever being happy with the car
- The car was sometimes unstable and unpredictable, however aero instability translates to very visible traits in the car's behavior. Those were not observed when he crashed at Tamburello
- His movements in the cockpit (hands, head, helmet in mirror) are not consistent with oversteer or opposite lock correction, but consistent with aiming to go left with a steering system that is collapsing in his hands
- Tamburello was not the type of place where car insufficiencies show. It was a fast, flat out bends not one of those tricky places where there is braking, specific entry to follow, specific liens to follow, and getting back on the throttle.
- Cars today (for some time now) are very different from the cars back then. Today's cars have stepped floors (and a small horizontal bulge in the middle which can constrict and therefore accelerate the airlfow), numerous complex aero elements (even the front wing is not one piece anymore), all working together in unison and creating a complex system of vortices, where some of those vortices seal off the sides of the car, crating a ground effect. The air is scooped differently under the nose and the floor is a lot more important in generating downforce. Early 90s cars had flat floors and air was scooped entirely over the small horizontal plane of the floor protruding under the cockpit. The cars bottomed all the time, even when they had active suspension. The cars were running very low, while today's cars are often more raised in the rear than necessary. Note the ground effects cars of the late 70s/early 80s were also much higher. Also the FW16 had a blown diffuser
- If anything, an alleged slide at the speed at Tamburello would have been more visible and more violent.
So it is the modification to the steering column (with undisputed fatigue cracking after only 1 fast lap of racing) that turned out to be the fatal flow. Otherwise the car was getting better already at Imola, despite the design deficiencies it had.
@@VWaudiRULEs From every source I have seen up to this day, NONE said he was happy. I have even heard some interviews of him to brazilian radios and certainly happy was not something you could acknowledge from them.
I bet your source must have misinterpreted whilst he was indeed very confident for the race saying he was happy about the car.
@@danieldbdb Actually Senna said during the Warm Up that he was happy with the car and told his mechanics not to touch it anymore. It wasn't perfect yet (that wouldn't happen until Newey introduced the modified rear a couple of races later), but it was better than at the previous 2 GPs.
In any case, the car's instability was irrelevant in the circumstances surrounding the accident at Tamburello. He was cornering, then suddenly he wasn't. There was no oversteer, no correction, just the car going straight on. Senna decided to brake as much as possible. He would have never done that if he could steer left and avoid impact. It was a very shallow corner, easily flat out with minimum amount of steering and low lateral g-force. It didn't require any skill at all.
As the person commenting above said, if there was an actual oversteer at such high speed, it would have been very violent and obvious. You can see that in numerous such incidents, particularly on ovals. If he lost it by overcorrection, the car would have shot right at a much greater angle, tyres sliding and smoking, and the impact would have been at a higher speed too.
@@hristoitchov now we must not confuse things here. He was unhappy with the car overall that year. He knew it had crappy aerodinamics and a powerful engine. Newey later described in his book what problem that car had.
Now, if you talk about that race specifically, yes he thought he would win and Michael also said he thought he would lose, because in their view San Marino was more favourable for the Renault engine.
Senna was going for 1 stop and Michael for 2. He was very unlikely to be overtaken on the track due to the engine, so Michael's only shot to win the race was to overtake Ayrton on the start with the lighter car, which he almost did.
Senna would probably unfurl that austrian flag he carried with himself on the car after the race, in honor of Roland Ratzenberger.
Incredible to see ayrton pass on tamburello😪...great magic
Yeah!! Chega a ser estranho!!
Senna eterno, el más grande de la historia que en paz descanses, junto a Maradona, los dos ídolos de Latinoamérica. Saludos desde Argentina !
Non mi stancherò mai di dirlo:tiferò sempre AYRTON SENNA... CIAO AMICO MIO
Senna eventually set a time of 1:22:595, 0.8 seconds faster than anyone else.
Perfect onboard footage of Senna's car during a not important warm up but ... at the very crash moment the image fails... this is something I still cannot accept as alright
1:07
A cena que todo mundo gostaria que tivesse acontecido em todas as voltas no domingo, 1 de maio de 1994.
Infelizmente não foi assim
E bem sinistro olha ele fazendo essa curva sabendo que um dia dps na quele mesmo ponto ele nos deixaria
@@kelvingaldino4488Isso foi o aquecimento, realizado no mesmo dia do acidente, mas pela manhã.
it's so sad to know that he is going to be dead at the end of this day :(
Yes, is true, i cry... The fórmula 1, never more has the same without Senna. I write english more and less, Sorry me.
1:07.... oh God, everytime I see this corner....
After the accident, the medics found an austrian flag inside Ayrton's car.
He will show the flag when he get win the race, to honor Ratzemberger !!
do you know where exactly the flag was stored?
@@TheColinChapman I really don't know !!
@@TheColinChapman Probably in the cockpit as it would've been easier for him to access it after the race.
I read somewhere that sent a fax messenger for Ratzemberger family on Saturday. May Betise Assuncao has told or other person.
I wish all the vids from this race weekend were of this quality. Thank you. Great shot onboard of the steering wheel not flexing as they claimed it did.
The moment John Watson describes the unpredictability of the '94 cars and how they would just break away and there isn't much a driver can do about it, Senna was rounding Tamburello...
mister dog and he says the word “breaks” just about where Senna lost control of the car...
That scenario wouldn't account for tamburello in a car that didn't have a failure. It was a simple corner, even for a car at the back of the grid. Even the 1980 F1 cars took that corner flat out easily.
They were also talking about the strength of the monocoque to a carbon fibre specialist when roland crashed on sat camera was on tossa bend check it out very strange.
@@david-fx8ri Wait a minute this is getting too 'coincidental' now, maybe John sabotaged both cars! :D
@@misterdog7 same advert board on both bends as well.
watching Senna getting well through Tamburello gives me a little smile
Yes and sad at same time
Senna the best
Senna não morreu, ele está a uma volta à frente da nossa compreensão, por isso não conseguimos vê-lo.
É muito triste imaginar q o nosso grande campeão iria falecer depois.
That Kronenbourg logo... Damn, it's in my head since 1994.
Rui Vieira
Well that's certainly how advertising works 😅
Tô me, it's Pilotissimi...same thiago.
Rui Vieira Rothmans too
for me, Pilotissimi, Kronenbourg, and Segafredo.. Pilotissimi is haunting me due to the word "Pilot"
Good Alsacian stuff
0:25 Senna corrige o carro. Adrian Newey sustenta a versão de que Senna tentou corrigir a traseira do carro na Tamburello. Ele sabe exatamente o que aconteceu, mas nunca vai admitir o erro.
barra de direção quebrou, segundo os testes do ex-diretor de competição da Ferrari, Mauro Forghieri, e do presidente da Faculdade de Engenharia da Universidade de Bolonha, Enrico Lorenzini testes de laboratório com microscópio eletronico comprovou que a coluna de direção se quebrou antes da batida do carro contra o muro, e não depois. A polícia rodoviária e a Universidade de Bolonha colocaram algumas máquinas na pista de Imola, testes realizados com aparelhos ingleses, medições no local apontaram que a pista oferecia excelente aderência e não apresentava ondulação. Na camera colocada dentro do carro, a mão de Senna tenta uma correção de trajetória para a esquerda, mas as rodas permanecem retas, perfeitamente alinhadas. Existe diferença entre o rompimento do metal de forma instantânea e abrupta, e quando ele se rompe por fadiga de material (esforço repetitivo com aparecimento de estrias). A parte fraturada da coluna de direção do carro de Senna mostrou uma área com estrias de fadiga de 60%. A contra prova, foi feita no laboratório do Centro dell’Aeronautica Militare di Pratica di Mare, em Pornezia, próximo a Roma, o microscópio eletrônico apontou que 70% do setor ao redor do local de fratura apresentava estrias de fadiga. Senna não terminaria a corrida devido as avarias da barra de direção, que se romperia de qualquer modo, seu azar foi ela se romper no exato momento em que tangenciava a curva tamburello
Isso mesmo, @maconheiro de humanas. Apenas quanto ao local do rompimento da coluna de direção, não foi propriamente azar, porque a força aplicada sobre a peça é proporcional à velocidade do carro. Então, como aquele era o ponto de maior velocidade do circuito, o mais provável seria romper ali mesmo. Infelizmente.
O williams nao fez uma S na tamburello... Foi direto contra o muro... A barra de direção quebrou.
Simply the best!!!!
in the 1994 they were really killer cars...besides tamburello and villeneuve with no cushions
Ask to Martin Donnelly in Jerez '90
Um espetáculo de piloto.
Senna. 💓
Saudades desse eterno campeão.
esse cara era demais. quanta saudade.
@@andersonpereira7795 SENNA ERA INCRÍVEL O MAIOR PILOTO DE TODOS OS TEMPOS SAUDADES 👑
Great quality, thanks
O cara corria não ele voava maluco, eternamente Ayrton Senna da Silva....
William's matou o nosso campeão!!!
Simplesmente o melhor
Our great champion Ayrton Senna dominating a car full of problems in his arm and also dominating the "doped" Benetton that had technology that helped the weak German driver.
Not only the best race driver ever, but also the most charismatic one.
And there will never be a race driver like AYRTON SENNA DA SILVA.
FOREVER ON POLE-POSITION !!!!!
Moroccan fan.
ACCELERA AYRTON !!
So obvious the '94 cars are a handful to keep on the track.
Interlagos and Aida didn't have many fast sections in a row, Imola showed successives fast corners to be hazardous to be handled. What we saw in Spain was a preventing measure, a bit late...
Barrichello was the only driver of the three major crashes during the weekend, who made a mistake. The other two that sadly took the lives of Senna and Roland, had nothing to do with 1994 cars being a handful. They were both car failures.
Ratzenberger and senna... Two legends.... Drivers like that just dont exist anymore.
Stephen Moreland unfortunately Ratzenberger is a legend only because of his bad luck :(
@@nessuno5403 Yeah...its sad to say this but its unlikely that he would've accomplished anything of significance in F1 had he lived. Simtek didn't have a car that you could do much of anything...
@@nessuno5403 he could win Le Mans that year. Or to become a part of that sad story with bad luck of Toyota
@@gemellimusic931 "could have", but didn't :(
It bothers me as if there was still something to be done to avoid his fate.
If not Adrian Newey and Patrick Head. Today still would've been alive.
The FIA could have posponed the race, due to Ratzenberger ontrack death. The Italian laws were in that way, back in those days.
But, "unfortunately" Ratzenberger was legally declared dead at the Bologna Hospital ... So the Imola circuit wasn't shut.
It was somehow up to the FIA and the FOCA / FOM to do something about this race.
Jérôme indeed. If all else fails, they could have waited for a new steering column steel tube to be built and replace the old one instead of that poorly done welding job they did, wich ultimately killed him on race day
Could of put tyres Infront of wall ,and tyres at end of track maybe,also put cones on straight before tamburello to makeshift chicane
Also could have stayed under safety car longer and allowed teams to pit ,as they could of picked up debris from JJ lehto car,the cones wouldn't of cost alot to put down and would of saved sennas life
A few hours before he died, Ayrton Senna fighting to keep his dreadful Williams FW16 on the track!
hardly dreadful
dreadful enough to win the constructors championship
Williams that won the constructors ins't the same that Ayrton, Ayrton didn't drove FW16B.
That car was a piece of shit, only thing that was keeping in the forefront was the Renault v10, williams didn't handle the 94 regulation change well in the beginning of the year. And we all know bennaton was sneaking in their TCS/LC
Even with three changing, but equally incompetitive 2nd pilots all year, and with MSC disqualified from 2 races, plus banned from another two, Benetton only lacked 15 points to Williams. If there would've been equal conditions for both teams at the green table, the FW16 wouldn't have won the constructors' championship.
Senna No1
Senna mesmo com um carro ruim andava sempre na frente de todos
A parte traseira do carro batia muito no solo e tinha uma aerodinâmica ruim o ar não circulava bem por baixo do carro, a curva de alta velocidade da Tamburello tinha falhas de recapeamento isso fez com que o carro perdesse aderência na dianteira fazendo o carro perder completamente a direção, sinceramente nem gosto de olhar o que aconteceu com com o Senna nessa corrida meu coração gela de tristeza.
Da pra ver no video como tava difícil o Senna manter o carro da Williams na pista de Imola.
Eu também percebi o carro patinando... Uma carroça inguiável. Uma cadeira elétrica.
O estilo do Senna de guiar no limite e tirando tudo que era possível do carro não era compatível com esse FW16 violento e mal projetado. O redultado foi infelizmente fatal...
0:27 Observe como o carro é instável e difícil de guiar. Senna dificilmente dava uma patinada dessa.
Sim, a patinada significava duas coisas, primeiro senna no limite o tempo todo, para vencer o schumacher que tava na cola, e segundo que nao era um passeio no parque, o carro era instavel e para bater a beneton precisava ser guiado no limite o tempo todo. E olha que tinha quase 80 cavalos a mais do que o ford v8 da beneton
@@geraldo209 isso era warmup não valia muita coisa, e foi uma saída de traseira normal, acontece, ele estava tentando saber o limite do carro ,e sim apesar de ter 80cv a mais, o benneton era muito eficiente nas curvas e tirava quase toda essa diferença nelas.o projeto do b194 era um projeto que lidava melhor com a suspensão convencional, enquanto o fw16 era um carro que foi criado e desenvolvido desde 91, ele é uma evolução do fw14 que tinha sido criado para trabalhar com a suspensão ativa. Queria ter visto essa batalha de 94 dos dois, teria sido épico.
Não esqueçam que o Benetton era batoteiro, foram apanhados no decorrer da época com vários sistemas proibidos....
Ayrton Senna dificilmente patinava em chuvas aquilo ali era já um anúncio dá tragédia que iria acontecer
Isso mostrar tbm a abilidade em que Senna tinha para corrigir essas patinadas que o carro dava
Strange to think that out of the 23 drivers who drove during this warm-up 3 are gone (Senna, De Cesaris, Alboreto) and 1 is away from the public eye due to his medical condition (Schumacher). They are all in my thoughts...
SENNA 👑
„and a very special hello to our dear friend Alain. We all miss You, Alain.“ If that session had been part of a Hollywood movie, everyone would have said this is too sugary. One more proof that the best stories are written by life itself.
Saudades dele cara
Genius!
"It's the kind of thing we've been seeing a lot of in '94, what I would describe as 'unpredictability' in car handling."
Hard to hear that knowing it was just before he was killed. The flaws in these cars were obvious even to those who never drove them.
He was talking about cars in 1994, like he would be talking about any F1 car with normal suspension. He never said the cars had flaws. That's you making up a story. A design flaw is a wing that is too fragile, or even a cracked steering column, due to being a bodge job in the garage.
0:25 carro arisco e instável demais!...o mesmo aconteceu no gp anterior em interlagos,onde tirou Senna da corrida...e acredito que na tamburelo tbm..saiu de traseira e ao tentar voltar pro traçado da pista senna perdeu o controle...
In the minute 1.07 seconds he passed the Tamburello curve, where he would later crash. Senna Legend. 😟
Carro inguiavel...
Esse carro era ruim demais e mesmo assim ele andava na frente o carro era tão ruim que ele mesmo disse que era nervoso difícil de guiar
O carro era rápido mas instável, ele não gerava pressão aerodinâmica suficiente para o Aerofólio , o que fazia com que o carro desliza-se de traseira nas curvas, a Williams corrigiu esse problema com o novo modelo no meio da temporada de 94 mas Senna já havia falecido.
@@PlanetaMotorsport COM CERTEZA 👍
@@PlanetaMotorsport SENNA ERA INCRÍVEL O MAIOR PILOTO DE TODOS OS TEMPOS 👑
1:07 The same camera that filmed from that angle the Berger accident in 1989 ....
Brazilian míssil!!!
Bom visivelmente Airton Senna estava com problema no carro .
0:26 e a prova
1:07 perfect lap in classification ✊🏽😢🇧🇷
AI O CHUMA NÃO CONSEGUIA ANDAR NA FRENTE. É UMA PENA QUE O SISTEMA NÃO ACEITAVA AIRTON GANHAR E GANHAR.
I think it’s eerie what John Watson is saying as Senna goes through Tamburello.
Com problemas no carro mesmo assim conquistou a pole position imagine se o carro tivesse um rendimento bom em corrida eu tenho certeza que ele seria campeão em 1994, esse carro era ótimo porém este veículo de Ayrton Senna foi avacalhado já tinha problemas de acerto estabilidade, Adrian Newey projetou um carro para auxílios eletrônicos assim como a Willians de 1993, mas com mudanças no regulamento o FW 16 se mostrou um carro ruim mas com o decorrer da temporada de 1994 eles corrigiram os erros do carro e ele se tornou competitivo também em corrida então dar pra perceber que se Senna saísse ileso do dia 1 de maio de 1994 ele seria o campeão de 1994!!!!!
Márcio Prates O carro de 94 antes de ser banido era 3 segundos mais rápido que esse, só que ele foi banido devido ao regulamento, certamente as Williams ganhariam a temporada de 94 facilmente!
nessa pista era facil a pole de senna, esse motor empurrava muito. Milagre foi a pole no japao, com esse carro todo instavel em uma pista travada.
@Roque Silva sabe de nada. Antes disso Senna tinha batido Prost, Mansell e Piquet. Quem era Schumacher nessa época? Nessa pista ia começar o arranque do SENNA. O que aconteceu foi uma fatalidade, que poderia acontecer com qualquer um. Pena que vitimou nosso campeão.
@Roque Silva cara, você tem problema. Fica na paz aí 😉
@Roque Silva Schumacher aquele que ganhou com carro tunado e depois ganhou mais 5 de presente da Ferrari? Kkajsuakskak
When you compare old years with today ,You can see that the epic driver brains that lived in the old years overcome some difficulties in a great way and also you can see that they have accomplished. There are bumps in the corner of the track.(01:47) it looks like little mountains and the pilot(driver) escapes from there with a smooth driving technique. I invite today's talents(Pilots) to the ''Variente Alta''...Come on....
What an exaggeration lol. Tamburello was an easily flat out corner. All F1 cars from 1980 could take that corner flat without problem, 'unless the car had a failure.' Michele Alboreto.
Certainly, the the column broke. And unfortunelly the suspension pierced his forehead..
I wonder when the colomn was altered do you think it was after warm up or before.
@@david-fx8ri I think before, but was not made correctly and without minimum engineering patterns.
Only the best for me,the best driver until today , not exist other like SENNA👍😌
ตรวจสอบย้อนหลัง
Carro desequilibrado arrisco
1:07😭😭😭😭😭😭🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷
Sim! 💔😢😭
Spoiler do fim. 😢🇧🇷
Fórmula 1 antes e depois do SENNA revolucionário
AYRTON SENNA 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
Fw16 was a dangeurs car
Was fast though... however the FW15D in pre-season testings proved much more reliable!
No minuto 0:27 Senna sai de traseira, o mesmo aconteceu na corrida do Brasil em que ele abandonou a corrida e o mesmo aconteceu no acidente fatal. Esse carro realmente tinha problemas sério de estabilidade
O Adrian Newey admitiu que o projeto aerodinâmico da Williams tinha defeito e o carro não gerava pressão aerodinamica limpa pra asa traseira, que de fato tornava o carro mais instável, ao longo da temporada eles lançaram uma evolução(se não me falha a memória no GP da Alemanha), mas Senna já havia falecido.
@@PlanetaMotorsport Exatamente.
Essa perda não é uma fatalidade e sim tem culpados, o quais estão soltos e nunca foram julgados..
Assassinos existem porem o dinheiro calou..
The best
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It is a "crime" this FORMULA 1 OF 1994 SEASON.I can not believe what I saw on TV was an accident.
all is money my friend, bloody money
OLE OLE OLA SENNA SENNA 🇧🇷🇧🇷🇧🇷🏆🏆🏆🥇🥇🥇❤❤❤
O FW16 saia mto de traseira..
Setup feito pelo ayrton para ganha velocidade, a penalizacao eh a instabilidade, soh sobrou esse recurso pra ele para bater a beneton nesse inicio do ano.
@@geraldo209 na vdd esse carro foi desenvolvido pra usar suspensão ativa, dai quando tirou nem senna + Adrian Neway deram jeito no carro, particularmente acho q por conta de ter um motor extremamente forte..
Today Senna would have been at least 6 titles .I'm telling this without hesitation
considering he did not run with the best car for decades like hamilton
@@rockybalboa2484 exactly, but f1 is unpredtictable. We don't know how robert kubica carrer would have evoulate if he had not a huge accident in 2011 before a f1 season
Even though senna lost his life on tamburello , i missing for a old imola layout
Ai o Schumacher tinha que anda atrás
Foi uma falta de sorte muita imensa, ele tomou uma facada do braço da suspensão na cabeça. É só ver os acidentes da formula indy onde os carros batiam a 350 em um muro de concreto e o piloto nao morria com o detalhe que nem esse recuo de 10 metros nos ovais tinham, era só asfalto e concreto dos lados. Uma falta de sorte tremenda..muita.frustração
1:22
Number 3 - Franco Morbidelli
com'era nervosa quella macchina, avete visto l'uscita dalla variante alta che scarto? povero Ayrton, pensava di essersi conquistato l'auto migliore e si trovava invece a guidare una trappola...
se non avessero usato un tubo del brico nel piantone, lui avrebbe fatto comunque la differenza.
Senna 1
Eran muy rápidos los autos para esa epoca
Já pensaram num carro teleguiado para o muro? Controles manuais desativados?
SENNA DI VENTTA DIO 🇧🇷🇮🇹
Last minutes of his life...😢😢
That bloody steering wheel bar was about to break 😥
O ceifeiro precisava atingir meta naquele mês e escolheu aquele final de semana para o determinado fim.
See what happens in 0:45
That Williams was a death trap. Too fast and striped out of many safety features from the 92-93 season. Even the goat couldn’t tame it.
😭😭😭😭😭
Champion of 94. Runner-up: Hill.
0:26 aí mas uma prova que esse carro era muito desequilibrado
1:07...WTF...all of a sudden the car breaks away.
The bes tr quality. HD
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Never know that i could hate somewane so long and much
Dat corner at 1:07.... with modern F1 cars it's no more dangerous than the corner where Ralf Schumacher crashed in 2004🇺🇸GP
Schumacher was just 6th in the warmup
Schumacher wouldn't have achieved that much of a glory had Senna lived... Monaco 94, Canadian, Belgium he would undoubtedly prevailed...too sad!
Running more fuel
Quem matou Ayrton?
Ayrton Senna en mi opinión jamás tuvo que fichar por Williams, puñeteros incompetentes, fue el mejor de todos los tiempos....
Malditos sabotaram o carro dele
Marizete Luchese A mais pura verdade.
Com certeza, as modificações foram feitas logo após esse warmup. O carro parecia bem, até então...
As modificações foram feitas no sábado, o Warmup foi no Domingo, o carro estava instável no fim de semana e Ayrton estava insatisfeito com a barra de direção pois ele estava muito longe do volante, modificar uma parte dela não era em busca de melhoria no carro e sim na condução, infelizmente naquele tempo não havia tecnologia eletrônica pra regular isso de dentro do carro como atualmente há.
@@PlanetaMotorsport então, no documentário aparece o Senna falando prós engenheiros que o carro tava saindo muito de traseira, principalmente na Tamburello. Uma pena o que aconteceu com ele.
Sim devido a falta do controle de tração e aerodinâmica baixa os carros ficaram muito instáveis nas curvas, tanto que no decorrer do ano a Williams adotou uma asa traseira dupla, e depois aprimorou ela concertando parte desse problema, pena que ja era tarde demais.
@@PlanetaMotorsport poderia explicar até que ponto o chassis da benetton, bico de tubarão, ajudava na questão da estabilidade?
@@yurecarlos2001 A asa dianteira da Benetton por ser mais larga e mais aberta fazia com que os motores recebessem mais ar e com isso facilitava a refrigeração, já a Williams tinha mais grip dianteiro e com isso o carro era mais ágil nas curvas, porém o que realmente fez diferença na temporada foi a asa traseira, a Benetton tinha um conjunto mais estável, o carro era mais flexível e equilibrado, ja a Williams teve problema em 2/3 do campeonato com sua asa traseira pois ela não recebia carga suficiente, fazendo com que o carro ficasse mais rápido porém mais instável, esse problema só foi resolvido quando instalaram um asa dupla, a Williams era o melhor carro, porém era tambem um dos mais difíceis de guiar.
Esto cuando fue exactamente?
Anyone here after hearing Imola might be getting a GP again?