I don’t understand why this video completely disregards needs of the worker explaining the issue of the time you spend on the job after the notice. Everything is explained about the needs of the company - take time to train your successor or finish existing projects… and no word about taking care of yourself and maybe finding the next job. Maybe HBR assumes that everyone can afford to take care of the needs of the company they are leaving first, then leave, then what? Are you supposed to just hang around looking for a new job for several months? Great advice would be to act according to your interests and needs. You are leaving this company for a reason and you need to take care of yourself first
I think they assumed that once you decided to quit, you already have plan to move forward. Whether you already secure another job or going for further study. Just like the old advice, don’t quite before you hv a solid plan.
There’s an old saying, look before you leap! This whole fad of jumping around from job to job doesn’t make much sense in the long run! You work with one company and climb the ladder. You leap frog to a different company and you generally start off at the bottom of the ladder again! But of course the age group that’s jumping around doesn’t care much for people who “have been there did that” and have the experience! They depend on shortsighted TH-cam videos to make some of the most important decisions of their lives! Ridiculous! They should talk to the ones that leapfrogged around and ended up getting nowhere. Then maybe they would cultivate a single career and come out on top!
Really useful information! Unfortunately doesn't work in countries like India, with the highest unemployment in a decade, quitting one may end you up homeless, no matter whether you like it or not 😂
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Interesting. The key topic missed is the amount of fear involved in this. It is such a huge life decision. Also not discussed was the concept of time. Quitting a job can be a spur of the moment thing, but this is a process that might take a year, maybe more. I disagree with the part about being dishonest. It is actually the opposite. You don’t need to divulge information but if pressed I won’t lie. Why degrade yourself? I also don’t put as much focus on the resume history thing; sometimes you need to get out. What I do is center everything around myself and take full accountability and blame. Even if your boss is abusive, make it about you and your flaws and need to improve. If you cast blame to the company it makes you look bad. If you’re going to look bad anyways, might as well do it through the perspective of reflection and self improvement. What if you can’t leave a job? Dream about it. Plan for it. Be prepared. Even under stiff financial and economic forces which prevents you from making a move, make every effort to be in a constant lookout for a new opportunity. Be stealthy. Many times going through tough work situations requires the ability to cope. This “dreaming” and preparation gives your mind that alternate focus to cope with the current situation while simultaneously being prepared for what you do want. It’s funny, I’ve been through so many jobs and terrible situations, I’m sort of an expert I guess. 😂
I can’t subscribe to the idea that people shouldn’t be honest about their reasons for leaving. Especially if it is only due to a toxic boss/work environment. Leaving under a “fake”reason just perpetuates the problem and makes the new person in your role/your colleagues have to continue with the same issue. There are lots of videos on this channel which should provide the skills to be honest while being diplomatic and professional in order to provide the true reason for leaving a job.
How could I get into a places cases remained in the class rooms: six-sigma, Broken windows theory，derivitives,mind-map, oh, and most diverting, mariginal something?
In my case , my boss is a really nice guy but the way he tells me how to do my job is controversial, I'm a manager and if I decide to buy supplies he asks why? Or if a job needs done , he wants me to do it instead of outsourcing it to a company, but also If I decide to do a job he questions on why not outsourcing it! He knows just enough of the job but he is no expert like me, so I feel some times like he does not trust my urgency or that I'm wasting time and money or just the opposite! He is nice and all but also some stuff that I was promised did change and I understand that but like ex: I can't take off any holidays. Because there's another guy in another department that covers for me when I'm not in that used to be in my position and he has more" seniority" even tho it's not a union. So anyways he is always taking those days off and I can't plan anything. I'm on call 24/7 and that's too much, rarely get called but it always happens on holidays or weekends of course😅. I was told I was gonna help cleaning the snow .. but not yo the point that it's my job now and it's a huge place so I got a machine that you can ride and it's a bitch to be outside .( This part it's the one I hate the most) but my boss also cleans but he drives a truck with a plow ! And gets twice as much pay( I know it's not his fault to make more , and he should as a managers manager but ..) plust there's a lots of small things than when put together dies bother me , Now it's not a bad job pays good and for sure it's one of the very best jobs I ever had but an opening just came up in a company that I have been waiting for more than 15 years and finally after years of applying for a job I got it! Better pay , no weekends or on call, it's abetter by not much on all else but.... Now I'm hesitant to take it , I'm not a spring chiken but still have some years to work. I'm in that dilemma like the song The Greatest love of all that says ; And if by chance , that special place., That you've dreaming of leads you a lonely place !? It's not always greener I do know that at this point I'm taking my chances to find hell or heaven( it happen to me back in 2015, heaven and hell at the same time) I survived that job cause I had a plan, made money and got out. So any way I'm planning on how to tell my boss that it's time for me to move on .
I think your content is too generic. Maybe for junior staff or simple minded people it works. But being HBR I'd expect your HR related content to be more in depth. Being global today, in some country, the notice period is strictly specified, like one month or 3 months. And in many situations, the notice period are usually driven by the requirement of the next company, as in the next hirer wanted the resignee to come into the company within 4 weeks, or so forth. People who are senior, matured and have decided to move on will usually plan out the time line for exit. And in many resignations, it is usually the direct reports whom have motivated the move to resign. And hence it is usually meaningless to ask for reference from an ex-direct report. I thought that these notions are actually quite common sensical.
Turn back!! This is a trap. Moral of the video: Quit and make it easier for poor management to keep on doing what it does best: manage poorly. Can we fire the Harvard Business Review instead?? Please? You guys graduate allegedly the best and the brightest and occupy key positions in our corporations and worse, our government. Instead of doing what you should be doing, ie managing in the highest standards, things often fall horribly apart. We workers get the part about pleasing our bosses and productivity etc etc. What we don't get -- why can't this be done with efficiency, a sense of shared community up and DOWN THE RANKS, and a healthy amount of common sense and foresight? I think we workers know better than to expect too much good management, common sense, and inspiring leadership. Those days are gone. But couldn't you guys in the ivy league at least do a better job faking what used to make working for our hallowed corporations and governments a fairly good experience? Some of us remember when leadership acted like leadership. Be the change we need -- and use your skills in a better way. Signed, one of your countrymen
One option, if we can take the liberty of proposing something to the Harvard Business Review -- quit /your/ job and establish a counter-revolutionary Harvard Business Review. Or, encourage your bosses to meet with their lower-ranking plebians. Or, rip out water coolers and plant large plastic palm trees in common areas ie places where those gossipy colleagues snoop or make them wear ankle bracelets so they can't sit in the boss's office and gossip about teammates ie the ones who actually do the work but are the first to get the axe because they don't schmooz in the boss's office #savecorporateamerica
If no one ever tells management that they are leaving because management sucks, then management will never get better because they will always be operating under the assumption that the issue is the employee not the employer.
There’s an old saying, look before you leap! This whole fad of jumping around from job to job doesn’t make much sense in the long run! You work with one company and climb the ladder. You leap frog to a different company and you generally start off at the bottom of the ladder again! But of course the age group that’s jumping around doesn’t care much for people who “have been there did that” and have the experience! They depend on shortsighted TH-cam videos to make some of the most important decisions of their lives! Ridiculous! They should talk to the ones that leapfrogged around and ended up getting nowhere. Then maybe they would cultivate a single career and come out on top!
Having a résumé that looks like you’re a leap frog, bouncing from job to job looks terrible! The first step really should be to sit down with your employer and see if you can work out an action plan for you to progress within your company first. I know if I was hiring and I see a person has a new job every six months that particular résumé is getting deleted! I worked 35 years in the automotive repair industry 22 years for the same company. I took care of my employer and he took care of me, it worked out fantastic! Any issues over the years that I had I sat down with my employer and surprisingly enough we were able to come to an agreement as to which direction my career would head. Being straightforward and honest with your employer is still the best policy. Now after just retiring I’m getting calls to come back too many people are jumping on this ridiculous bandwagon.
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I don’t understand why this video completely disregards needs of the worker explaining the issue of the time you spend on the job after the notice. Everything is explained about the needs of the company - take time to train your successor or finish existing projects… and no word about taking care of yourself and maybe finding the next job.
Maybe HBR assumes that everyone can afford to take care of the needs of the company they are leaving first, then leave, then what? Are you supposed to just hang around looking for a new job for several months?
Great advice would be to act according to your interests and needs. You are leaving this company for a reason and you need to take care of yourself first
I think they assumed that once you decided to quit, you already have plan to move forward. Whether you already secure another job or going for further study. Just like the old advice, don’t quite before you hv a solid plan.
@@clementperdana290 agree
There’s an old saying, look before you leap! This whole fad of jumping around from job to job doesn’t make much sense in the long run!
You work with one company and climb the ladder.
You leap frog to a different company and you generally start off at the bottom of the ladder again!
But of course the age group that’s jumping around doesn’t care much for people who “have been there did that” and have the experience! They depend on shortsighted TH-cam videos to make some of the most important decisions of their lives! Ridiculous!
They should talk to the ones that leapfrogged around and ended up getting nowhere.
Then maybe they would cultivate a single career and come out on top!
Really useful information! Unfortunately doesn't work in countries like India, with the highest unemployment in a decade, quitting one may end you up homeless, no matter whether you like it or not 😂
Cant agree morrrrrrrre here!!!!
I don't know who need to hear this but stop saving all your money 💰 invest some of it if you want to be financially stable 🙂
Honestly,I tell this to my friends everyday. It good to save money but you gotta that investment spirit if you really want financial freedom.
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Interesting. The key topic missed is the amount of fear involved in this. It is such a huge life decision. Also not discussed was the concept of time. Quitting a job can be a spur of the moment thing, but this is a process that might take a year, maybe more. I disagree with the part about being dishonest. It is actually the opposite. You don’t need to divulge information but if pressed I won’t lie. Why degrade yourself? I also don’t put as much focus on the resume history thing; sometimes you need to get out. What I do is center everything around myself and take full accountability and blame. Even if your boss is abusive, make it about you and your flaws and need to improve. If you cast blame to the company it makes you look bad. If you’re going to look bad anyways, might as well do it through the perspective of reflection and self improvement. What if you can’t leave a job? Dream about it. Plan for it. Be prepared. Even under stiff financial and economic forces which prevents you from making a move, make every effort to be in a constant lookout for a new opportunity. Be stealthy. Many times going through tough work situations requires the ability to cope. This “dreaming” and preparation gives your mind that alternate focus to cope with the current situation while simultaneously being prepared for what you do want. It’s funny, I’ve been through so many jobs and terrible situations, I’m sort of an expert I guess. 😂
Wonderfully explained as usual. Its my favourite channel.
I can’t subscribe to the idea that people shouldn’t be honest about their reasons for leaving. Especially if it is only due to a toxic boss/work environment. Leaving under a “fake”reason just perpetuates the problem and makes the new person in your role/your colleagues have to continue with the same issue. There are lots of videos on this channel which should provide the skills to be honest while being diplomatic and professional in order to provide the true reason for leaving a job.
Doesn't apply to developing economies where there are dearth of jobs.
Do manager's really still provide references? I thought HR departments handled all that nowadays?
I took the right decision 🙏
With a new better one, I will quit my job as a same time.
But this is about changing career/job and not quitting! So, it's anything but new....
How could I get into a places cases remained in the class rooms: six-sigma, Broken windows theory，derivitives,mind-map, oh, and most diverting, mariginal something?
In my case , my boss is a really nice guy but the way he tells me how to do my job is controversial, I'm a manager and if I decide to buy supplies he asks why? Or if a job needs done , he wants me to do it instead of outsourcing it to a company, but also If I decide to do a job he questions on why not outsourcing it! He knows just enough of the job but he is no expert like me, so I feel some times like he does not trust my urgency or that I'm wasting time and money or just the opposite!
He is nice and all but also some stuff that I was promised did change and I understand that but like ex: I can't take off any holidays. Because there's another guy in another department that covers for me when I'm not in that used to be in my position and he has more" seniority" even tho it's not a union. So anyways he is always taking those days off and I can't plan anything.
I'm on call 24/7 and that's too much, rarely get called but it always happens on holidays or weekends of course😅.
I was told I was gonna help cleaning the snow .. but not yo the point that it's my job now and it's a huge place so I got a machine that you can ride and it's a bitch to be outside .( This part it's the one I hate the most) but my boss also cleans but he drives a truck with a plow ! And gets twice as much pay( I know it's not his fault to make more , and he should as a managers manager but ..) plust there's a lots of small things than when put together dies bother me , Now it's not a bad job pays good and for sure it's one of the very best jobs I ever had but an opening just came up in a company that I have been waiting for more than 15 years and finally after years of applying for a job I got it! Better pay , no weekends or on call, it's abetter by not much on all else but.... Now I'm hesitant to take it , I'm not a spring chiken but still have some years to work.
I'm in that dilemma like the song The Greatest love of all that says ; And if by chance , that special place., That you've dreaming of leads you a lonely place !?
It's not always greener I do know that at this point I'm taking my chances to find hell or heaven( it happen to me back in 2015, heaven and hell at the same time) I survived that job cause I had a plan, made money and got out.
So any way I'm planning on how to tell my boss that it's time for me to move on .
I hope that you moved on from the last job. The one sounded much better. If i was your friend i would have told u to jump on that new opportunity.
No. Never. I'm happy at work. I'll will only resign if I have to migrate. Or else no reason to resign.
I have to give three months notice. M.
I think your content is too generic. Maybe for junior staff or simple minded people it works. But being HBR I'd expect your HR related content to be more in depth. Being global today, in some country, the notice period is strictly specified, like one month or 3 months. And in many situations, the notice period are usually driven by the requirement of the next company, as in the next hirer wanted the resignee to come into the company within 4 weeks, or so forth.
People who are senior, matured and have decided to move on will usually plan out the time line for exit. And in many resignations, it is usually the direct reports whom have motivated the move to resign. And hence it is usually meaningless to ask for reference from an ex-direct report. I thought that these notions are actually quite common sensical.
You need a reference from your boss? Lmao yea right!!!!!!. No one ever asks for a reference from an ex boss 5 job chances never has that come up
This is absolutely amazing. I must say that information on discontinuing a job was extremely helpful. I have learned the right methods.
Turn back!! This is a trap. Moral of the video: Quit and make it easier for poor management to keep on doing what it does best: manage poorly. Can we fire the Harvard Business Review instead?? Please? You guys graduate allegedly the best and the brightest and occupy key positions in our corporations and worse, our government. Instead of doing what you should be doing, ie managing in the highest standards, things often fall horribly apart. We workers get the part about pleasing our bosses and productivity etc etc. What we don't get -- why can't this be done with efficiency, a sense of shared community up and DOWN THE RANKS, and a healthy amount of common sense and foresight? I think we workers know better than to expect too much good management, common sense, and inspiring leadership. Those days are gone. But couldn't you guys in the ivy league at least do a better job faking what used to make working for our hallowed corporations and governments a fairly good experience? Some of us remember when leadership acted like leadership. Be the change we need -- and use your skills in a better way. Signed, one of your countrymen
One option, if we can take the liberty of proposing something to the Harvard Business Review -- quit /your/ job and establish a counter-revolutionary Harvard Business Review. Or, encourage your bosses to meet with their lower-ranking plebians. Or, rip out water coolers and plant large plastic palm trees in common areas ie places where those gossipy colleagues snoop or make them wear ankle bracelets so they can't sit in the boss's office and gossip about teammates ie the ones who actually do the work but are the first to get the axe because they don't schmooz in the boss's office #savecorporateamerica
i just left
If no one ever tells management that they are leaving because management sucks, then management will never get better because they will always be operating under the assumption that the issue is the employee not the employer.
There’s an old saying, look before you leap! This whole fad of jumping around from job to job doesn’t make much sense in the long run!
You work with one company and climb the ladder.
You leap frog to a different company and you generally start off at the bottom of the ladder again!
But of course the age group that’s jumping around doesn’t care much for people who “have been there did that” and have the experience!
They depend on shortsighted TH-cam videos to make some of the most important decisions of their lives! Ridiculous!
They should talk to the ones that leapfrogged around and ended up getting nowhere.
Then maybe they would cultivate a single career and come out on top!
Stop talking no one is listening 😂
Very useful and insightful information 👏👏👏
great video, thank you
Having a résumé that looks like you’re a leap frog, bouncing from job to job looks terrible!
The first step really should be to sit down with your employer and see if you can work out an action plan for you to progress within your company first.
I know if I was hiring and I see a person has a new job every six months that particular résumé is getting deleted!
I worked 35 years in the automotive repair industry 22 years for the same company.
I took care of my employer and he took care of me, it worked out fantastic!
Any issues over the years that I had I sat down with my employer and surprisingly enough we were able to come to an agreement as to which direction my career would head. Being straightforward and honest with your employer is still the best policy.
Now after just retiring I’m getting calls to come back too many people are jumping on this ridiculous bandwagon.