Your Wheel & Tire Size is NOT Right!
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Here is the first episode of our new matchup series! This series is going to be focused on correct sizing and fitment and showing you guys what fits and the additional work that may be needed to make your future setup work. If you have any questions, let us know in the comments below or if you have any ideas on what we should do next.
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At a ATD (distributor that sells tires to most of the tire shops you know of) seminar I was told that the sizing is based on a tire casing that is inflated all the way to capacity with no load deflecting it
Just an FYI the advantage your getting when you air down off road isn't from the width of the tire ( yes it does get slightly wider depending on your side wall strength). The bigger advantage is your tire length (contact patch) is getting longer to grab the trail, rocks, whatever you going over. Agree though with the OP; have run both Nitto Trail Grapplers and KM3's both 37" with the grapplers being just under a true 37 @ 28 psi and the KM3 at 36.5 @ the same psi.
How about including the differences in weight between combo setups? Rotational mass is important.
Measure HORIZONALLY. Not vertically from the ground because the tire pressure will determine the "overall diameter". That testing method won't be correct.
haha, should read comments before posting my own.....well said
No, if the tire is filled to the correct psi then it doesn't matter if you measure vertically or horizontally , if your tire is under inflated then measuring horizontally will give you a bigger measurement and vice versa
Their method is the correct way to calibrate the speedometer.
I always measure my tire height by rolling circumference instead of mount height or ground to hub X2... (Diameter = circumference / 3.14). It's definitely more accurate and many handheld tire programmer manufacturers suggest this approach.
Thanks for the info Justin!
Wish Cooper STT Pro's came in 35x10.50 but the narrowest for 35's is 12.50. Even 11.50's would be great.
I put those on my Gladiator. Fit perfectly with no trimming on plastic. Quiet on the highway too.
Black rhino shrapnels 20/9.5 on 35/12.5 nitto ridge grapplers 👍 do that matchup!
Finally. Someone putting more useful tires for off-road than stupid too wide pos you see out there.
Same setup I’ve been considering for my sport, then add rubicon fenders/suspension hopefully it works
The 10 1/2 inch wide is not the tread with it is the width of the tire to the side wall bulges and you should’ve measured the tire from 3 o’clock to 9 o’clock because the weight of the jeep is making it squat yeah I would still be short of 35 inches but it would be a little closer
Most of the tires I’ve measured have been smaller than the tire says.
Good video can’t wait to see more of these 👌🏼
Thanks!
I love pizza cutters dude!
Love my Kenda Klever RTs. Highway noise is really low too
Not mine...so loud between 50 and 60 mph
I don’t get why people buy hybrid tires and then cry about road noise. I went from toyo mts to these and the noise level is night and day. These are way quieter.
@@15gatorpatriot I just don't drive between 50 and 60 mph.
@@jamiecarlisle1302 lol I guess that’s one way to do it. I like it once tires wear a little and start to hum. It reminds me of being a kid again.
I like those tires!
Hey guys. Great video! And I'm looking forward to see more videos in this series.
Would it be possible to also include the wheel and tire weights in your descriptions of each featured set?
Great suggestion!
I saw the title and I said “I know😂”
@Archer Austin Probably a scam but whatever.
Can anyone confirm the actual height and width of the 33x10.5 version ?
The width of the tire is measured from sidewall to sidewall at the correct air presure recommended by the manfacturer. The tread width has nothing to do with the number 10.5.
You need to measure horizontally to get the actual diameter of the tire, because it's flattened on the ground due to the weight of the car.
I keep seeing peope getting upset over having "smaller" tires than as advertised by the manufacturer, only because they don't know how to properly read measurements.
wish I had that much clearance under my car camper as that jeep!
Love the pizza cutter look.
I love pizza
I like that rim. Puts me in mind of a black rhino wheel
I would love to see some wheel suggestions for beadlocks on an XJ. I have 15x10 steel wheels with 3.75" backspacing. I can't decide whether to do 15x8 beadlocks or 15x10. I like the little bit if width that the 10" wide wheel gives me.
All depends on where you’re at and what you’re planning to do. My full disclosure opinion would be to run the 15x10 just to cover your bases, but again, it all depends.
Check what tire you'll run with it. Often times a certain width tire is made for a specific rim width for optimal tread patch on road with the given psi. Basically the skinnier the rim the more the tire patch will be rounded rather than being flat. On road can make getting proper tread wear for the psi a pain but off road can give you more sidewall past the rim for protection. 12.5 wides will want a 10 wide rim if your doing alot of on road.
I'm looking for a set of kenda klever R/T to mount on 16 inch rims, but hade no luck. Been called a dreamer since it's for a 2011 Nissan Primastar 2.0 worker van. Do know if there are any that would fit?
We have this tire, but you may have to do some trimming
bit.ly/3nDBeXm
liked the video, very informative. question, how would these tires be on a completely stock 2003 wrangler Rubicon ?
Yes 35s and smaller would fit! If you go with 35s you MAY have to do some minor plastic trimming on the inner wind guard under the front bumper. You may want to consider a steering stabilizer to help with the larger tires and if you do any offroading, you won't have much flex with your suspension. But for on road use and very light offroading they'll work just fine.
@@TrailBuilt thank you
thanks for the information
I’m thinking about buying these kenda rt’s
You should.
From trailbuiltoffroad.com
@@TrailBuilt haha
I found the 285/70r17 for 987/set on eBay. Can you beat that?
What is minimum lift kit recommend for this tire-wheel package? My rig is a bone stock 2018 JK Willys W. It is my daily driver, weekend off-road on light trails is where I'd like to get started. I have very little experience off roading.
I would check out our Gallery and see if anyone else is running this exact setup and what they did. You can check all that out here: bit.ly/37C5oTs
Could you find and measure maxxis mt772 33/10.5/15?
Measuring the tire when mounted and under the weight of the vehicle will not give as accurate a reading as when you measure it at recommended PSI before mounting. The weight of the vehicle is compressing the tire down. Something to keep in mind.
On it! Thanks Brett!
315/70R17E spec says 12.4 with and 34.75 height, actually its more like 12 wide and 33.75 tall
I live in wisconsin and just curious if u guys know of any trails?? All i can find is atv stuff.
Shoot us an email over at info@trailbuiltoffroad.com and we can help you out!
the tread pattern on those look very similar to my Goodyear Wrangler Duratracs which were in the Top 3 highest rated A/T tires for Jeep. The only category that the Duratracs suffered in was rock crawling.. which I don't do anyway.
Think i'll stick with my Duratracs on my 2004 TJ with 2.5" lift.
Goodyear tires don't last as long as kindas!! Goodyear tires wear out way to fast!!!
@@michaelburke2824 I still have half of my tread life left after 35k miles.. good enough for me!
Love this tire, Sub’d. Also, tires never get wider, they do get longer.
That wheel looks like a hub cap.
This is great info.
Ope! a fellow Wisconsinite! subd
Good to meet ya, Cheesehead!
pls confirm the size of the wheels because your saying its 17x9 but it says on the screen 17x8.5
2:25 is no one going to talk about the jeep that blinks ???
Literally EVERYONE knows this. 35x10.50....Dominoes called and wants their pizza cutters back.
Skinnier tires are much better off road. Fat tires are for bogging or mall crawling.
Rally cars run skinny tires in the snow. Why? Because they get more grip.
I wish I would’ve gone with a 34x11.5 instead of these 33x12.5 live and learn. Great series idea and good info.
You guys don't know what the 35" General Grabber A/T X un-mounted messurmet is, What I mean is the Tire not mounted on a rim.
Suspension lift doesn’t clear tires on IFS. Stay informed people.
@Bill Madd if you want to daily drive on pavement I guess you could. For an off road purpose, I don’t think most people would want to lose a couple inches of overall travel that they have in the front end. You’re not gaining the extra down travel, because the lower control arms limit out at the same spot as stock. So you could lift it and have 8” of suspension travel instead of 10” (hypothetical numbers but it gets the point across). In a solid axle setting I can switch my shocks up to get a longer down travel and just lose a bit of up, but keeping my some total inches. Doesn’t work that way with ifs unless I’m missing something.
255/100 r16
900/16
So of u package them together you only save about 38 buck right
You also get them mounted, balanced, and shipped for free too! That's a pretty significant savings as well!
@@TrailBuilt not bad.. but in my point of view not to offend you guy but only saying apply to me if i get them separately and mount and balance them at a local shop here i can save about extra 20 to 30 dollars from your discount price.
Never buy bfg or goodyear if you want get a more true to size.
Toyo /nitto /pitbull /interco are the closest you are going to get for true to size.
Imo bfg are the worst had a set of 35 km3 on my jeep and the 285/70/17 toyo mt on pickup where larger.
Also had a set of 37 trailgrapplers almost 2 inches taller than my buddies 37s goodyear mtrs
You can't really measure the height like that with the weight of the vehicle on the tire, Every tire is going to have about 3% squat depending on the sidewall and weight of the vehicle. If you want a full 35" tire you'll probably have to by a 37" or bigger tire.
Ya, but Jeeps need 5 wheels and tires.
hate to said it bro! but you measuring the tire radius "wrong"! cuz you are measuring from 12:00 O clock to 6:00 O clock. you should measuring the tire at 9:00 O clock to 3:00 O clock. why you ask?? think about it I am watching you video and you can see the tire on the ground pavement has a slight flatness to due to weight of the jeep pressing the tire flat to make the contact on road surface. And that why you getting a reading of 34" instead of the 35" radius tire size. Try measuring the tire at 9:00 O clock to 3:00 O clock . the weight of the jeep is not pressing against the tire it at those angle.
Thanks for the insight Todd! We will give that a try next time!
So tires are like a subway sandwich
Love y’all’s videos at trailbuilt. Custom offsets
Thanks Ryan! Appreciate the support!
So skinny. I like my 35x12.50 on an 16" rim. Plenty of sidewalls for any application
Your website has no contact info on its contact page other than a mailing address
Send over an email to thurston@trailbuiltoffroad.com and I can help you!
@@TrailBuilt thx!
Did he say " wheelize ". ?????? At the beginning?
You have to wheelize that we wheely like wheels.
@@TrailBuilt wheel? Me too,
Wheels way to narrow at least 11.5 wide if you can't clear true 35s.
Mall crawlers
The tire is only 10.50 wide so why would you want a 11.50 wide wheel?? Daaaaaa😂😂😂😂
No tires are the size they say. I have never seen a 33, 35, or 37 actually that size. The actual size is always smaller than posted. I think it’s the manufactures saving money. For instance, on one of my trucks I have brand new Falcon MT 35s. They are really only 33.5 inches tall.
Are you measuring horizontal or vertical? The weight of the vehicle makes the vertical measurement shorter.
Are you measuring horizontal or vertical? The weight of the vehicle makes the vertical measurement shorter.
@@rockie307 wheel off the truck with air in the tire. Straight edge across the top and they are 1.5 inches short. I currently have 3 lifted trucks and have many others in the past, all with different brands of tires and have tried different brands on all of them. What I have found over the years of buying lots of off road tires in my life, from 31s-38s is that most tires are an inch shorter than advertised. Some are closer than others, but they have all been smaller than advertised. I have never ever seen a tire true to size or larger than advertised.
Guess I got lucky my geolander g003 cooper stt pro and mud grapplers have all been within a half inch of claimed height
@@JohnDoe-du6yi are you using something that gets to the crown of the tire? I use a drywall square and a rafter square combined. I get nearly exactly the metric tire size on my 315/75r16s.
The 10 1/2 with is measured to the bulges of the sidewall not the tread you should’ve also measured the height of the tire should’ve been measured from three to 9 o’clock while it’s on the vehicle the weight of the vehicle is squatting the tire and you’re not getting the true heights
you are not measuring correctly. take load off the tire and measure height. to measure the width, you go from the widest point to the widest point. its called section width. some brands measure width by shoulder to shoulder. others do sidewall to sidewall. no hate, just informing! im a tia certified industrial tire technician so im not trying to be a jerk, just shedding some information.
You cannot measure the tire with the weight of the vehicle on it. Measure across the centerline to get a true mounted measurement. I mean, this is elementary school logic.
Its not. Calibrate your speedometer with your method. Then calibrate with a measurement from the ground. Yours will be wrong
The conversation was not about calibrating your speedometer, it was about claimed tire height vs actual measured tire height while mounted on a wheel and aired up.
@@Holden-McGroin and actual tire size effects speedometer right? If you measure a tire your way and plug that in its pointless. Where does your measurement come into play other than around the camp fire? Its a useless measurement.
So you must think you’re a Guinness
Nope. Not a big Guinness fan.