Thanks for the comprehensive tour and a view at what they're up to! State of the art tech and facilities - Magene is going to go far. Congrats on the 200K!!
Great video Shane and thanks to Megene for opening their doors. A few months back I bought the P505 based on your review and I wasn’t disappointed. Quality and accurate. I’m really keen on the new group set, any news on release date and best place for information about it. Want to know if it will fit my 2014 propel SL.
Finally some some competition for Shimano that should force more competitive pricing. When it comes time to replace my Garmin or 9170 Di2 I will give Magene a try.
Is the issue chainline or ring size? BikinGreen on ebay has 46/36 rings that are compatible with Shimano road cranks. Haven't tried them on my 505s but that's something you can take a look at.
I have had the T600 for 4 weeks. Hasn't skipped a beat, quiet, connects to every app without issue. Love it. Can't beat it for the price! Had it delivered by DHL from China to Aus in 5 days.
Although I was completely embedded in the Garmin ecosystem, I have become quite underwhelmed with the expensive Garmin equipment. I own a Garmin/Tacx Neo T2 with Motion Plates, from which one of the four plastic feet broke off. Disappointing quality that things like that can happen. Why isn’t such a thing made from ABS? During my last trip in France my Garmin Edge 1040 performed actually pretty well in have rains, which made me wonder why my Garmin Edge 1030 performed not at all in the rain. Apparently Garmin has quality issues with their touch screens. On the other hand the rerouting of the Edge 1040 is abysmal, while that of the Edge 1030 was pretty good. Also the Edge 1040 has an additional setting on rerouting: on the Edge 1030 one can turn on/off automatic rerouting of the course, on the Edge 1040 one can additionally turn on/off automatic rerouting of the route. Rerouting of the course by the Edge 1040 totally obliterates the carefully crafted track, while the Edge 1030 keeps the track in tact and leads me back to it. What rerouting of the route by the Edge 1040 does I still have to find out. The manual of the Edge 1040 uses the words route and course interchangeably, and thus gives no clue. Lately the Garmin site states I have a VO2max of 57, which is quite high for me at age 60. But the site also claimed that I do not enough high aerobe activities. Yesterday I found out that the Garmin Edge 1040 automatically put my maximum heart rate at 178, while it is in reality closer to 160. This probably explains both insane indications. I also had my Garmin Rally XC200 pedals with me during my trip in France, which proved not to be watertight at all. Great disappointment. Also the replaceable batteries caused a lot of problems. On return from my trip I bought some Favero Assioma Pro MX-2. Hopefully they will perform better. I have a Garmin HRM Pro from which one of the four nuts came loose from the plastic housing within three years. Alas outside their warranty period of 2 years. Garmin did not want to address the issue. I have no problem with paying extra for premium equipment. With Garmin apparently only the price is premium. Their equipment is just not that good at all. This opens the door to other manufacturers, like Magene. My last purchase was a blood pressure monitor, which was advised to me due to my age. I now bought one from Omron, that costs less than half of the Garmin Index BPM, and offers five years warranty instead of the two years by Garmin.
Like your BP Monitor comparison. Pretty much all other tech outside of cycling related tech is proof that companies are gouging the cycling community. They lie and make all kinds of excuses to back up their over-priced crap but here is Magene proving otherwise. Guess who Garmin and Shimano just lost as a customer, Me. 😉
@@Raymond-Farts On my trip my bicycle was equipped with Shimano XT Di2, and it worked well throughout the trip. When I started cycling when I was 16 (44 years ago) I didn’t have the money to buy Campagnolo at that time (every cyclist used Campagnolo, and wouldn’t want to be seen dead with Shimano, SRAM did not exist yet). So had to buy Shimano at the time, and because it looked so well I bought Dura Ace. Since then Shimano picked up and the prices went up. When I bought my third racing 25 years ago bike I chose Ultegra, because Dura Ace was so insane expensive. I think I would not even chose 105 anymore. But Shimano still have cheaper group sets that work really well. So, I don’t have many problems with Shimano. It is good that alternative manufacturers show up now. They will keep Shimano and the like sharp.
@@sktang7145 wall streets takes a huge percentage of all US economic activity, adding no value to the buyer. China doesn't have wall st monopolies exploiting and strangling it's economy . China invests in infrastructure with huge benefits to it's businesses. And China govt controls state run energy, and communication industries and maintains the lowest prices for it's citizens and businesses.
I'm debating wether to buy the magene pedal power meter or asioma. My experience of buying two trainers (T300 and T600) and one crank power meter tells me that their power data is just pure garbage.
Is there anything innovative here other than the price? Their products just seem to be copies of all the majors, Shimano, Tacx, Garmin, Favero etc. I'm sure their engineers have spent countless hours pulling them all apart, copying the design to the extent allowed and making a few tweaks. Has there been any legal action or is it not worth bothering with Chinese companies? Also worth considering if this was a staging area for media vs what a real Chinese factory looks like when there are no media tourists around...I have worked in a Chinese factory so have seen both sides of the coin.
A lot of what would be considered 'copies' are literally the product people believe is being copied. As per my intro, they manufacturer for a lot of well known brands. This wasn't something I was able to film or discuss. I can't speak specifically to the design/detail of things such as the T600 - there are a lot of similarities with that and the Neo design, as is the case with any trainer with a physical flywheel too - all very much similar.
@@gplama Precisely. A lot of folks don't realize that many products are just an "OEM" version with company specific branding and maybe a few tweaks. The Carbonda 696 frame is the classic GB example of this. My T300 has been perfectly fine for recreational training. Cheers for the video!
Very impressive manufacturing. Shines a whole different light on this manufacturer than I had previously thought.
Thanks for the comprehensive tour and a view at what they're up to! State of the art tech and facilities - Magene is going to go far. Congrats on the 200K!!
Great Video !!!!! Very Impressive. Plus cake at the end NAILED IT.
Christmas came early this year? so good to see you having such access and being able to geek out. I sure enjoyed watching. thanks for sharing.
Thanks for answering my question earlier. Great reply. 😊
An interesting video, thank you.
Lama abroad 👍
Fascinating to see how trainers are made!
Surprisingly impressed with the manufacturing!
Great video Shane and thanks to Megene for opening their doors.
A few months back I bought the P505 based on your review and I wasn’t disappointed. Quality and accurate.
I’m really keen on the new group set, any news on release date and best place for information about it. Want to know if it will fit my 2014 propel SL.
Fantastic video!!
Well done Llama. After the Kickr V5 debacle, I am interested in alternatives to Wahoo.
I really hope those power meter pedals make it over to Canada by the spring. I'd love to get my hands on those!
Great Vid. Really interesting stuff
I've a HR sensor made by Megene and it's pretty fine 👌
I have the radar rear light. It’s fantastic!
Finally some some competition for Shimano that should force more competitive pricing. When it comes time to replace my Garmin or 9170 Di2 I will give Magene a try.
Great content that man👍
I'm happy with the PES 505 Base PM cranks on my road bike but I'd love an equivalent for Gravel...
Is the issue chainline or ring size? BikinGreen on ebay has 46/36 rings that are compatible with Shimano road cranks. Haven't tried them on my 505s but that's something you can take a look at.
Never had a problem with their power meter. Superb products with very good quality. Cycle computers were little meh though.
If possible, would love to see a pedal based PM for Time cleats. Be nice if Magene could produce something for that interface.
Also for me 👍
How do they keep the floor so clean being such a big place?
anyone know the frame at 1:55?
please tell me you will be reviewing the T600
Maybe.. stay tuned. 😉
A not wobbly tacx neo. Must be a winner 🤔
I have had the T600 for 4 weeks. Hasn't skipped a beat, quiet, connects to every app without issue. Love it. Can't beat it for the price! Had it delivered by DHL from China to Aus in 5 days.
Hi Shane. Is this factory producing products for other manufacturers and brands today? Or is it now only their own brand?
Both.
QED
could they use tech from 7970???
Small correction, it's 1800N force per side, not Nm torque.
Great video. Any insight if they gonna make Easton spider PM?
Looks so professional. Do you know whether the power meter pedals will be Shimano-SPD compatible as-well?
Likely to be LOOK
Hopefully they pake a PES spider for easton interface too
Any idea when T600 might be available to North American market ?
That groupset is going to beat wheeltop and ltwoo down the boots 😅
Although I was completely embedded in the Garmin ecosystem, I have become quite underwhelmed with the expensive Garmin equipment.
I own a Garmin/Tacx Neo T2 with Motion Plates, from which one of the four plastic feet broke off. Disappointing quality that things like that can happen. Why isn’t such a thing made from ABS?
During my last trip in France my Garmin Edge 1040 performed actually pretty well in have rains, which made me wonder why my Garmin Edge 1030 performed not at all in the rain. Apparently Garmin has quality issues with their touch screens.
On the other hand the rerouting of the Edge 1040 is abysmal, while that of the Edge 1030 was pretty good. Also the Edge 1040 has an additional setting on rerouting: on the Edge 1030 one can turn on/off automatic rerouting of the course, on the Edge 1040 one can additionally turn on/off automatic rerouting of the route. Rerouting of the course by the Edge 1040 totally obliterates the carefully crafted track, while the Edge 1030 keeps the track in tact and leads me back to it.
What rerouting of the route by the Edge 1040 does I still have to find out. The manual of the Edge 1040 uses the words route and course interchangeably, and thus gives no clue.
Lately the Garmin site states I have a VO2max of 57, which is quite high for me at age 60. But the site also claimed that I do not enough high aerobe activities. Yesterday I found out that the Garmin Edge 1040 automatically put my maximum heart rate at 178, while it is in reality closer to 160. This probably explains both insane indications.
I also had my Garmin Rally XC200 pedals with me during my trip in France, which proved not to be watertight at all. Great disappointment. Also the replaceable batteries caused a lot of problems. On return from my trip I bought some Favero Assioma Pro MX-2. Hopefully they will perform better.
I have a Garmin HRM Pro from which one of the four nuts came loose from the plastic housing within three years. Alas outside their warranty period of 2 years. Garmin did not want to address the issue.
I have no problem with paying extra for premium equipment. With Garmin apparently only the price is premium. Their equipment is just not that good at all.
This opens the door to other manufacturers, like Magene.
My last purchase was a blood pressure monitor, which was advised to me due to my age. I now bought one from Omron, that costs less than half of the Garmin Index BPM, and offers five years warranty instead of the two years by Garmin.
Like your BP Monitor comparison. Pretty much all other tech outside of cycling related tech is proof that companies are gouging the cycling community. They lie and make all kinds of excuses to back up their over-priced crap but here is Magene proving otherwise. Guess who Garmin and Shimano just lost as a customer, Me. 😉
@@Raymond-Farts On my trip my bicycle was equipped with Shimano XT Di2, and it worked well throughout the trip. When I started cycling when I was 16 (44 years ago) I didn’t have the money to buy Campagnolo at that time (every cyclist used Campagnolo, and wouldn’t want to be seen dead with Shimano, SRAM did not exist yet). So had to buy Shimano at the time, and because it looked so well I bought Dura Ace. Since then Shimano picked up and the prices went up. When I bought my third racing 25 years ago bike I chose Ultegra, because Dura Ace was so insane expensive. I think I would not even chose 105 anymore. But Shimano still have cheaper group sets that work really well. So, I don’t have many problems with Shimano. It is good that alternative manufacturers show up now. They will keep Shimano and the like sharp.
Anything bound for Australia? Or au plug?
Got a T600 delivered from their official Aliexpress store. The plug was UK but I swapped it out with an Aus one easy.
all that chinese tooling costs a fraction of what western companies charge, hence the price difference in finished goods
Do you know why ?
Excuses. 🙄
@@sktang7145 wall streets takes a huge percentage of all US economic activity, adding no value to the buyer. China doesn't have wall st monopolies exploiting and strangling it's economy . China invests in infrastructure with huge benefits to it's businesses. And China govt controls state run energy, and communication industries and maintains the lowest prices for it's citizens and businesses.
Do they manufacture smart trainers for other companies as well.
Yes.
Decathlon? Elite? Garmin?
@@ErickMoreno I'd be surprised if their contract allows them to say.
@@ErickMoreno Decathlon obviously, they make their HRs too, I believe they make for wahoo
Western brands are shaking in their pants
Western brands are utilising companies such as Magene in a big way.
迈金便宜，但是质量实在不稳定。售后问题很多，谨慎购买/
I had a such bad experience with hr and speed/cadence from Magene that I’ve given up of them…
Copy cats?
Looks like it to me.
Any evidence?
What's your point? I don't care as long as it's easier on my wallet.
I'm debating wether to buy the magene pedal power meter or asioma.
My experience of buying two trainers (T300 and T600) and one crank power meter tells me that their power data is just pure garbage.
buy assioma pedals...and keep using t600 ;)
Is there anything innovative here other than the price? Their products just seem to be copies of all the majors, Shimano, Tacx, Garmin, Favero etc. I'm sure their engineers have spent countless hours pulling them all apart, copying the design to the extent allowed and making a few tweaks. Has there been any legal action or is it not worth bothering with Chinese companies?
Also worth considering if this was a staging area for media vs what a real Chinese factory looks like when there are no media tourists around...I have worked in a Chinese factory so have seen both sides of the coin.
A lot of what would be considered 'copies' are literally the product people believe is being copied. As per my intro, they manufacturer for a lot of well known brands. This wasn't something I was able to film or discuss.
I can't speak specifically to the design/detail of things such as the T600 - there are a lot of similarities with that and the Neo design, as is the case with any trainer with a physical flywheel too - all very much similar.
@@gplama Precisely. A lot of folks don't realize that many products are just an "OEM" version with company specific branding and maybe a few tweaks. The Carbonda 696 frame is the classic GB example of this. My T300 has been perfectly fine for recreational training. Cheers for the video!
Ching what now? lol
@@nationsnumber1chumpjust another low class racist remark your parents taught you.