The unique thing about the Innova design for distance drivers is that instead of following an even dome or smoothing out at the edge like most brands, discs like the Boss, Destroyer and Wraith have a downward curve towards the edge of the rim that I believe changes the properties of the lifting surface. Given that the rear airflow brings a lot of lift to the disc, having a more downward curve at the edge is going to let the disc generate more lift while displacing the same amount of air. For pros who can push through the extra drag this effect creates, the distance gains can be quite evident. I do think that the effect of DDs dropping on big flex lines has more to do with discs stalling out or being too new to have enough glide to push through that flight, because all my super-beat rippers across multiple brands have the same lifting effect when they flatten out of a flex.
Eric have you thrown any of the new tour series Nukes? Just curious how it compares. Love watching you and Jerm throw these and will have to check one out! Also nice finish at worlds dawg! Keep grinding
I started playing again, always had a few discs but my back had stopped me from playing before... probably stopped a little after the destroyer first came out. But feel things have changed a lot but def need a wraith Boss and a destroyer in my bag again
@@darkfafnir4389 lmfao new destroyers are not what you were used to btw. wraiths are decently similar and Jerms tour series boss is nasty, you should def get one!
Speaking of speed 13. Latitude 64 Royal Rive has been surprisingly good! Not absolute beef cake out of the box and getting some actual good distance is really nice.
Not being a goof..but your game would def go up if you had some better shoes instead of flat shoe I saw in your videos..just a suggestion not taking crap
@@darkfafnir4389 I see so many people slip on perfectly fine tee pads because of just a little sand or dirt. But then, I play in Birkenstocks, so what do I know.
JERM, I absolutely LOVE you"re new tour series boss. I haven"t thrown my boss's in years due to them being OOP and worth money, not worth losing hah. first throw i flicked about 370'. was perfect. feels amazeballs!! can flex it or flip it straight....just nasty man.
I like Jerm and I like Eric :) I may buy one just to support Jerm. I think i'm still in the shryke driver zone though. Not sure what changes i can make to get out past 400 feet(how to throw harder haha)
Your arm speed and step up approach really matters when trying to get to your max distance. Has a lot to do with the transfer of energy from your back foot to the hips and up
Welp I’ll be buying one… or 5 Halo Bosses. Not sure if you take requests, but I’d love to see Drew Gibson sell you on the Finish Line Era. My personal favorite disc this year that’s flown under the radar for a lot of players.
Love wide rim discs. Not a fan of the dome but the dome on this disc looks like a chopped off pyramid. Be cool to see how it flys compared to the discmaina Majesty.
I have a bottom stamped Star boss that’s an absolute meathook. I’ve tried all kinds of other 13 speed discs in varieties of plastics and still haven’t found anything as beefy as that boss.
@@gregorypalamara6723 I don’t think it’s that lol. I did find this boss left in a field at a public park, so maybe someone before me experienced the same with that disc and didn’t want it anymore.
The audio on this video is awful on the TV but is good on my phone. On my tv I had to turn it up, other videos I didn’t have to do that. Just helping guys.
I mean I get it, your out here trying to hustle your discs so you can get paid, and I'm not mad because that's how your puting food on the tagble and gas in the tank. However.... I can easily see that no one should bother with this one unless you can throw 450ft.
I really enjoyed the Fierce and Captain's Raptor episodes, but this one wasn't convincing at all, even though I like Jerm. Felt too obviously like a commercial. The camera didn't quite catch the disc enough, either.
with the kind of gail-force tailwinds you guys are throwing with for these bogus distance records, you can probably get those distances with a hankerchief, or a paper-plate. it's not something that would make me want to spend $20 on a plastic plate.
It’s a great forehand disc for me. Handles the torque nicely with a consistent,dependable finish. Backhand, not so great for me. I don’t have the arm speed needed on my BH to keep it from dumping after about 300’
I like the champion boss (the one with 0 turn) a lot. Almost mandatory to throw it in an annie. Thing will turn over even in the highest of winds. First time I got the Champ boss I couldn't throw it for crap (I'm only a year into the sport). But learning to throw it annie bh and hyzer sidearm has really helped me get the intended shot with this disc almost every time.
I got mine. It replaced my rive. Way easier to put anny on it and when you turn it to much it corrects and skips forever if you put a good throw on it. I threw it 100 feet shanked it got flat before it hit the ground and skipped 200 ft no joke. People afraid of it will be surprised. Can’t wait to dial it in.
I put a Halo Boss in the bag to try FH and parked a 388 ft hole by basing the pole 1st round with it. These aren't as stable as the champion Feldberg boss's I use to bag. For most ppl it will be similar to destroyer distance wise, but gets more left to right movement and more ground play. The Boss is just better than the Nuke.
Would love a late year in the bag so we can see how things changed from the start of the year to now. And what's good enough to make the bag...
Definitely down to do that! I’ll do a seasons end ITB for sure.
love it
Second this!
Shoutout to my teerex throwers
The emcee/DJ from “That Thing You Do”
Love these videos. Keep them up Eric, I'll keep watching.
This is how Big Jerm makes up for being so quiet in the Captain's Raptor video...He gets back to back videos!
The sound of that coming out the hand is just nuts
Always love hearing a snap sound 😂
It is the sound of the fingers hitting the palm of the hand upon release. Although satisfying it means nothing.
@@bigthings1477 yea that's called a snap... 😂
@@bigthings1477 definitely isnt everything but is a good sign of getting good spin on the disc by it ripping out of the hand
And I love your run up😂😂☠️ it's like you do a lil cha cha on the way to throw the disc😂😂🤌
I'll say this: I'm glad they exist so I can see Jerm or AB throw em.
Jerm is a bloody CRUSHER!
The unique thing about the Innova design for distance drivers is that instead of following an even dome or smoothing out at the edge like most brands, discs like the Boss, Destroyer and Wraith have a downward curve towards the edge of the rim that I believe changes the properties of the lifting surface. Given that the rear airflow brings a lot of lift to the disc, having a more downward curve at the edge is going to let the disc generate more lift while displacing the same amount of air. For pros who can push through the extra drag this effect creates, the distance gains can be quite evident. I do think that the effect of DDs dropping on big flex lines has more to do with discs stalling out or being too new to have enough glide to push through that flight, because all my super-beat rippers across multiple brands have the same lifting effect when they flatten out of a flex.
Hey,thanks for being so cool this past weekend, I wanted to have you sign my EO lucid x felon but figured you’d rather enjoy your Hagaya
Eric's videos are so good. Another winner right here. Great content!
That ace at the end was nuts🤯
Yeah I was just about to skip ahead to the next video but got a special treat for waiting 5s more. 😊
It would be cool to see one of these videos on the Garrett Gurthie sonic.
Eric have you thrown any of the new tour series Nukes? Just curious how it compares. Love watching you and Jerm throw these and will have to check one out! Also nice finish at worlds dawg! Keep grinding
I started playing again, always had a few discs but my back had stopped me from playing before... probably stopped a little after the destroyer first came out. But feel things have changed a lot but def need a wraith Boss and a destroyer in my bag again
thats kinda redundant tho
@@JC-dc7eb no I'm saying the change wasn't that good...and just want some of my old discs back....I know reading comprehension is hard
@@darkfafnir4389 lmfao
new destroyers are not what you were used to btw. wraiths are decently similar and Jerms tour series boss is nasty, you should def get one!
@@gregorypalamara6723 thanks for the heads up buddy
“The Vicksburg in Pittsburg!” That Thing You Do all the way!
That thing you do !
Thanks Whales. I loved it. Great review!!
I was hoping you would do this disc. Glad I subscribed
Of course it is That Thing You Do!
Speaking of speed 13. Latitude 64 Royal Rive has been surprisingly good! Not absolute beef cake out of the box and getting some actual good distance is really nice.
Rive is a glidie straight shooter for sure
Every person 13 speed lmao
And if you look at the rim width, it should really be a 15 speed
Intro song reminds me of a something I would see in a tool commercial
You sold me, I just ordered one directly from Innova ( good price) I have decent arm speed and I love throwing flat hyzer shots! Great video!!!
Not being a goof..but your game would def go up if you had some better shoes instead of flat shoe I saw in your videos..just a suggestion not taking crap
@@darkfafnir4389 I see so many people slip on perfectly fine tee pads because of just a little sand or dirt. But then, I play in Birkenstocks, so what do I know.
Thats from "THAT THING YOU DO"!!!
No way I can throw this thing past 200 feet.
Hahahaha. Right
To them, all this “versatility” means over stable to us. Lol. But play with it long enough it’ll be usable hopefully.
Ordered a few yesterday can’t wait to try em !
subtitles: "It's really good for distance and going fart..." perfect!
Waaaaaaaay too much disc for a majority of us. Cool stamp though!
I found a beat-up Boss last year and it's STILL a meathook for me. Then again, I haven't ever found a Destroyer that I like, either.
just wondering how long has a Big Jerm also had a boss as well with his name on it?
if i am not mistaken I have a boss but it is a 12 speed. But it is an older disc
it had a shallow rim
I have one any it is overstable and is great for making 90 degree corners :)
This disc only works if you have fast arm speed hence the 13 speed flight numbers
That Ennio Morricone intro was epic 😍
My kind of test area: freshly cut field with round bales.
If ground play were like the ladies man, the boss is ya that’s nasty
the credit scene lol
I somehow missed the change in sponsor. I hope you are feeling comfy with a mixed bag. I think world's would say you are. Lol
JERM, I absolutely LOVE you"re new tour series boss. I haven"t thrown my boss's in years due to them being OOP and worth money, not worth losing hah.
first throw i flicked about 370'. was perfect. feels amazeballs!!
can flex it or flip it straight....just nasty man.
We missed out on swirly wraiths?!
That thing you do.
Boss one of my favorite discs.....
Throw the World......my nemesis.......
I like Jerm and I like Eric :) I may buy one just to support Jerm. I think i'm still in the shryke driver zone though. Not sure what changes i can make to get out past 400 feet(how to throw harder haha)
Your arm speed and step up approach really matters when trying to get to your max distance. Has a lot to do with the transfer of energy from your back foot to the hips and up
Welp I’ll be buying one… or 5 Halo Bosses. Not sure if you take requests, but I’d love to see Drew Gibson sell you on the Finish Line Era. My personal favorite disc this year that’s flown under the radar for a lot of players.
I got 3 of the original run. My fave ended up being the 163 gm Era. I can mash that thing on a hyzer-flip and it just goes straight forever.
it almost inspires a new disc rating for ground energy, boss is amazing but you do need to play for the livelier action on the ground
Love wide rim discs. Not a fan of the dome but the dome on this disc looks like a chopped off pyramid. Be cool to see how it flys compared to the discmaina Majesty.
Great video. Went from this on my TV with volume at 50. To Jomez that was loud at 10 🤣 great video though!
Long story short. Lav mics please 🥺
I like these videos. I think an episode about Rickys new felons would be very funny
staaaaaaaable
Lol that grey ace
They r money the feel beat in right out of the box.
Congrats on your worlds finish Eric!
Can we just talk about how clean that snap is on every backhand 😅
eric sucks tho. he is one of the worst pros ever.
Nah
That thing you do?
I have a bottom stamped Star boss that’s an absolute meathook. I’ve tried all kinds of other 13 speed discs in varieties of plastics and still haven’t found anything as beefy as that boss.
def an outlier, Boss's are understable.....
or you just have an insane hyzer release haha
@@gregorypalamara6723 I don’t think it’s that lol. I did find this boss left in a field at a public park, so maybe someone before me experienced the same with that disc and didn’t want it anymore.
@@gregorypalamara6723 i've got a flat top champ boss that is as overstable as an ape
The audio on this video is awful on the TV but is good on my phone. On my tv I had to turn it up, other videos I didn’t have to do that. Just helping guys.
This series is awesome eric!
for my noodle arm Jeremys thundebird is good
I mean I get it, your out here trying to hustle your discs so you can get paid, and I'm not mad because that's how your puting food on the tagble and gas in the tank. However.... I can easily see that no one should bother with this one unless you can throw 450ft.
I really enjoyed the Fierce and Captain's Raptor episodes, but this one wasn't convincing at all, even though I like Jerm. Felt too obviously like a commercial. The camera didn't quite catch the disc enough, either.
with the kind of gail-force tailwinds you guys are throwing with for these bogus distance records, you can probably get those distances with a hankerchief, or a paper-plate. it's not something that would make me want to spend $20 on a plastic plate.
oh been waiting for this
Did you throw this at worlds?
That thing you do
Boss looks good! A Rizbee spotting on the channel as well!
It’s a great forehand disc for me. Handles the torque nicely with a consistent,dependable finish. Backhand, not so great for me. I don’t have the arm speed needed on my BH to keep it from dumping after about 300’
I like the champion boss (the one with 0 turn) a lot. Almost mandatory to throw it in an annie. Thing will turn over even in the highest of winds.
First time I got the Champ boss I couldn't throw it for crap (I'm only a year into the sport). But learning to throw it annie bh and hyzer sidearm has really helped me get the intended shot with this disc almost every time.
Is this for people who find that the Heimberg Halo Destroyer isn’t enough disc????
Awesome content as always!
looks less overstable than a heimberg halo destroyer to me
I got mine. It replaced my rive. Way easier to put anny on it and when you turn it to much it corrects and skips forever if you put a good throw on it. I threw it 100 feet shanked it got flat before it hit the ground and skipped 200 ft no joke. People afraid of it will be surprised. Can’t wait to dial it in.
so, its a ballista pro?!? haha
Handles a lot more power than any Ballista Pro.
@@WhalePants good to know! might be a good over stable compliment for me... I love me some ballista pros!!!
Jeremy, if it's an every person disc, then it must surely come in some lighter weights, such as 150 class.
own it in 156
@@frolfygidorp I own 4 Blizzard Bosses and a 150-gram Star plastic. I was wanting a Boss at 150-gram in Halo plastic.
I put a Halo Boss in the bag to try FH and parked a 388 ft hole by basing the pole 1st round with it. These aren't as stable as the champion Feldberg boss's I use to bag. For most ppl it will be similar to destroyer distance wise, but gets more left to right movement and more ground play. The Boss is just better than the Nuke.
It's a fucking frisbee.
You are a motherfucking genius!
Halo caiman please