I mean... Ballas did say in the Sacrifice Quest that everything they touched seemed to turn against them: Citizens, Sentients, Infested, Tenno. Everyone just really hates the Orokin.
"Oh no, the stronger thing also turned against us....we should build something stronger than the stronger thing to defeat it." (pattern recognition isn't one of their strong suits.)
Dear Orokin, Maybe instead of building more powerful lifeforms that are going to ignite an infinitely long space war, you could just try not being a giant bag of dicks. Sincerely, Every single soul suffering in the origin system
For me personally, discovering that warframes are infested people was a really cool moment. I wasn't expecting such horror-ish story from this game at all. We see the process of creating one of the warframes in Umbra's quest, but it's a small part of the whole process, I believe. If I remember right, Orokin was also altering minds of warframes, leaving no memories of the host body, messing with their emotions and such. But yet they remained uncontrollable, which wasn't fixed untill Tenno took the stage. And, of course, these procedures were completed no matter if a person agreed or if they did not. Crafting warframes feels messed up too. If we only make copies, why than Umbra got all of his memories, all of his pain, all of his anger still intact? Does it happen for every frame we craft? Do we have to deal with pain of every different warframe that we own?
So from a little digging, it seems that Umbra had something called an Umbral Transference Bolt in him which is part of the reason why he was able to retain his memories (that and sheer angry). And yup! The tenno at least had to share/quiet the emotions and memories of at least the original Warframes. Since the tenno had already gone through such traumatic stuff from their time on the Zariman, they could relate to the Warframes pain and work with them.
@@corgthemighty, quite the opposite. Every frame have a transference bolt. That temper their identity and make them "bio-drones". But the first generation of warframes didn't had transference and were able to retain their memories, their inner self, like Sorren (Stalker), Jade, Gara and many others. Only the copies we made have transference systems. Umbra it's a special case . Btw, without transference kit, every single one of them will behave exactly like Umbra. What we do are indeed copies, but perfect copies nonetheless. Next time, when you craft a new frame look closely to what materials you use. It's said, humans are stardust (the most rare and complex elements from the heart of a dying star are in a human body), and think at perfect bioengineering of the Orokin, the seamless cloning tech (Grineer) and you'll have the answer about our freshly crafted bio drones, if are still individuals or not.
interesting detail that makes the orokin seem SLIGHTLY less incompetent is that the sentient can fairly easily take control of machines. Hence they needed something that wasn't machines to fight the sentient. Thus weaponizing the biological infested seemed like a somewhat logical conclusion. This is also what lead ballas to the realisation of combining the idea of machines (they created the sentients and that didn't go well) and biology (the infestation which also didn't go well) by creating the warframes, which as mentioned initially were just supposed to remain loyal and sane, which they didn't. Thank god we have random void kids mumbling about tapping against walls.
2:20 the infested bomb achieved its purpose, to shield the necralisk, isolation vaults, Albrechts’s labs and all void related intel, stopping the sentients from learning ways to adapt to their only true weakness
@corgthemighty Like another Orokin that got away from the Sentients and used kuva to transfer their mind to a Corpo body or even they simply removing their body modifications and hiding among the Corpo. I just feel like he knows too much about the warframes and sentients that he has to have some connection to the Orokin. Or I'm just overthinking this 😅
@@calebhounsell8132 No, that's such a cool theory. Overthinking is half the fun! That would be wild to find out that he's some sort of Orokin survivor though, he'd definitely fit the part. That just makes me wonder what would have happened if the Grineer Queens had done Continuinty into Corpus bodies instead of Grineer ones, like would they be slightly more sane today.
@mysteriousstranger5873 Nah they win by a mile with that, but I'd still be scared shitless of something that's capable of giving a halo ring self-awareness🫥
I too have a cute lil parasitic hivemind in my own verse that is just flat out op (and probably beats the infested any day, but loses to later stages of the Flood because of... star-roads). They're called the Fog and they're a supernatural Infestation that corrupts a bunch of different kinds of matter (except aluminum alloys) with this aptly named fog that they have. They're also about as smart as the Flood, but they have a weakness to supernatural entities due to their own supernatural nature. God basically uses them as Noah's Flood for the rest of the galaxy until they get wiped out by another faction that I made (and really like).
Alad v has so much lore not covered in the game anymore which ties into the events of everything basically 😭 he's basically the modern day ballas i think the only thing he didnt have his hands in is the old war
Honestly, if they revealed he somehow had a part in the old war, I wouldn't be surprised at this point because he has his hands in a lot of stuff (and all of it ends up problematic)
I call the massive lips in my Orbiter "Wallnut" Also the Helminth in the Operator (you the player's ship) can feed it so it can prodiuce bio matter which you can use to swap out and inject other powers into other warframes which requires you to feed Wallnut a frame you don't want to use anymore (like Non-Prime versions of Warframes) to get said powers.
Coming back to this vid 7 months later is fun. And now there’s updates quest dialogue from the lotus stating that the infestation predates any orokin records. Which I believe was added during the lotus eaters update. Makes sense considering 1999 is called a “plague year”
That's cool! That could also mean a Dark Sector connection could still be in the cards since the infestation could have started from that (I just really wanna see my boy Hayden in the game lol)
Yeah and apperently according to the ARG Techrot (the ancestor of the Infestation) was created by the local version of Digital Extremes by accident when they were working on War Sector
3:37 yes its literally both some of the hive minds are greater and have control of half a planet, the two worms come to mind, it’s basically a hierarchy of hive minds, wich means yes there ARE Nidus divisions for every player in game and for the infestation, it’s honestly a great way to introduce infested litches wile not have to spend more of their time developing unique models of the infested, just make us fight different versions of Nidus.
I actually forgot that the infested don't have their own equivalent of liches, but I am excited to see what DE does because they'll probably introduce them eventually.
oh man, the infestation... caused sommany problems and to think that it was almost extinct in the solar system until a certain grineer scientist unleashed it by accident
Small correction (at least as far as I know): The Orokin didn't give the Infestation that name when they first created it, that came later. The name they originally had for it was the "Technocyte Virus", which just sounds so much friendlier.
Great video that is easily digestible (like the helminth with my nano spores) as always. Will you make a video explaining the origins of the corpus at some point? I’ve heard we’re getting some more Nef Anyo lore soon aswell.
You know this reddit screenshot of the guy saying "I love how every story has its version of, and then this was this guy...", it stays true till this day
Well, originally infestation wasn't called like that. It was called "Technocite", nanoorganisms that restructured organic and unorganic matter into biomechanic amalgamations. UPD. Ah, you mentioned technocyte at the end of video. It is not strain though, all infestation is technocyte. And in most locations it will look like Orokin Derelicts. Look at Eris for exampke.
Yup! I have a kind of order I want to cover things in just so I don't end up talking about things without prior context. But definitely will talk about them because they are so cooooool!!!
I think they retconned that the orokin made the infestation since the techrot is now a thing and I believe the orokin are post humans. Though with warframe diving into weird timey wimey shit who knows anymore.
Technically all warframes now are just suits. Only Excalibur Umbra isn't a suit and he is the only warframe that we know of that was created from that hybrid infestation creating thing
I have one thing on my mind something whit me always is the emissary strain what caused it to mutate what happened to arlo is the base infestation connected weres arlo and what is he doing why do human maintain that normal human like shape and how the hell its more intelligent
@@corgthemightyThat sounds like an interesting concept for a video: if the Tenno faced trials for war crimes, who in the Origin System can preside as judge? Or another: what would be the main war crime of each Warframe?
The nsme would be Technocyte, thats the name of the infestation as a Virus. Ah ok you got it. Theres also a possibility that other hives are like an outpost still connected to the main Hivemind, which we still dont know where its located, each strain with the exception of Helminth are connected to the main hivemind in some way as Alad was trying his hardest to resist it, same with the Entrati they heard the hivemind telling them to let the heart stop.
Yup! I decided to explain the strains at the end but I can see how I might've wanted to bring it up earlier. Also yeah! I was talking over some ideas with another commenter and we talked about what if the main Hive Mind is an infested planet (like Deimos but bigger and completely alive), that you have to blow up and then do missions on the exploded chunks of the planet.
IIRC, the whole "early Warframes going insane" thing is kinda shaky, and (from what I can tell) may have been an in-universe excuse for/misunderstanding of them turning on their masters, leading to further Warframes being put into a vegetative state without pilots. Sure, Umbra is the only sane sapient Warframe we have access to, but who is to say that he is the only one to have rebelled against the Orokin? We have dialogue in Mirage Prime's trailer PERSONIFYING her, even saying that she deliberately went against and altered her own design when she was infected with Helminth. Who knows what she did when she was done transforming? Then we have Lavos. His leverian ends with him having changed and fused himself and the Archimedean Javi together before killing the Lrokin that imprisoned Javi and watched as he was "executed". Was it truly Lavos himself in this Leverian, or was a Tenno the one behind the creation of Lavos as we know him now? Hell, our most blatant examples against this are Stalker and Jade. Stalker willingly became a Warframe in the hopes that he would be with Jade once again. Despite their downfall leading to his own freedom and the implication that the long time between the Naga Drums and the Tenno awakening has partly deteriorated his mind, he still holds on to this loyalty to his dead golden lords- albeit likely forgetting why he is fighting in the first place. Jade was fully sapient and capable of making her own decisions- even peacefully resisting transference by soothing her would-be pilot to sleep before escaping. She would eventually choose to lie dormant for centuries after the fall of the Orokin so that her child may be born, though it came at the cost of her own life.
Thought you meant my Warframes for a sec lmao. I've had them for a while, but you should be able to search up colored steampunk sunglasses on amazon and get some good options. Hope this helps!
Did a little extra digging for this and realized my explanation is kind of half right. When we build Warframes, we seem to be making a copy of the original Warframe that was made way back when. So we're not making a brand new human sacrifice, but we are kind of 3-D printing a model of a deformed infestation corpse. Does that make sense?
I thought our operators were contaminated with Void energies during the (SPOILERS) Zariman jump and only a handful of us survived the jump. For those that didn't make it on the zariman from the start were probably being killed off by the void angels. And with this void wielding powers unique and second to none gave us a frame because our void powers were out of control for us to control our void powers and this unique power that let's us control our frames is called transference and that's why we keep our buts sat down on our chair permanently at the end events of the second dream because the chair is the only thing keeping us alive and letting us control our frames from our ship But our frames can still die even with the operator controlling the current frame he's/she's using. I don't know how our frames die but it's just part of the game or lore somewhat
...I believe that I am saying this, but I am thankful that this is not a viral video. Because while the surprise is already years old, openly speaking of the game lore with most of it it's story quests in one big summary only makes interested players who wants to play for the story is disenchanting them for that experience and are also making most of them bound to just pack up and leave. In other videos, it's fine. Because they'll be adding a spoiler warning. At the title. Or in the video. While I understand this 'Movie Years ago, we can spoil now' mentality, those are movies. This is a game that requires you to invest 100 hours to get a small sip of another cinematic cutscene. I know that this sounds small but I asked people that plays new games like Helldivers usually say 100 hours is already a huge investment. So please if you could, all O would ask for is to add a spoiler at the title. People who want to spoil themselves could easily find the video. I know that there are already a ton of videos speaking and spoiling about this but let's not add more oil to the fire. Meh, what the hell am I saying, it's already there.
From your last message, it looks like you already found the spoiler warning I included near the beginning, but just wanted to clarify that I agree with what you're saying. I definitely understand the want to keep the magic in tact for new players, and so I appreciate you wanting a spoiler warning in these types of videos.
Love this video but there is a thing that is wrong with it, that being the origin of the technocyte because in the newest lore it is suggested that instead of being created by the orokin it actually already existed (my source is the entrati fragments in the newest update)
You bring up a good point cause I know it comes up in the 1999 stuff, I just haven't gotten a chance to dive too deep into it yet. (Also, appreciate that you still liked the video!)
@corgthemighty np! Also, another fun fact: the grey strain has the ability to make gigantic creatures and were, in fact, created by our favorite orokin (that is not Ballas) eho we call Albert Entrati in an attempt to keep the murmur at an ears length, the first experiments being those giant statues we see in his labs
wait, I thought the "Son" of the Entrati family was the reason infestation broke out of the lab? because in the cutscenes for reaching certain ranks in standings, it was revealed that the "Son" let the infested go in purpose, so that "Mother" would pay more attention to him. Did I misunderstand or am I missing something? This game's lore is wild so I need some help 😅
You're totally good. From my understanding, when Deimos got bio-bomb, the Entrati family initially hid in their bunker essentially. They were relatively safe, but then yes the Son did eventually let things in. So the planet was already screwed anyways, the Son just made it worse for the family.
Don't tell anyone, but I think I might have accidentally stolen this vest. I used to be a theater kid and I think it was a costume piece I brought home one day by accident and never brought back. The glasses I got from amazon (just search steampunk colored sunglasses and you'll find something similar), the collared shirt I've had so long I forgot though lol sorry
is there any explanation why when we craft the warframes we need 4 parts (neuro,systems,chassis,bp itself) siince in lore they are infected humanoids? were the orokin just able to make premade humanoid helmith body parts? or is it just purely video game thing ? loved the quick explanation of their lore either way, very awesome
From what I understand, the original iterations of each Warframe were made from people (or at least most of them). The blueprints we gather allow us to make copies of those frames. So we're not sacrificing an entire new person to make them, but we are basically 3D printing a horribly mutate corpse. Does that answer your question friend? (also thank you for the kind words!!)
Some were Orokin citizens, though there are...others as well. Ranging from an amalgamation of random body parts resewn together after their Warframes were deemed "failures." A cyborg can apparently become infested as well, implying the Helminth is capable of similar feets to the Mutalist strain. There's Quorvex, supposedly there was no body with the frame built around something refered to as the "Crucible Core" by the Orokins most esteemed. How? I have no idea, and I fear the answer. Then there is Wisp, who supposedly was a well-endowed subject in the same manner as Dagath; but, the origin of her Prime implies that Wisp is not of our universe or timeline thanks to Eternalism.
This makes me super excited because I'm planning on doing a larger video covering all of the Warframes and I keep getting more and more interesting tidbits!
3:07 Btw to add on to that, not every warframe is necessarily a orokin citizen, dagaths lore indicates shes from duviri and with the 1999 update, excalibur and mag originated on earth
Just to clarify: Dagath is not from Duviri, she was a Dax gravely wounded in an "accident" that her lovers set up in order to try and kill her beloved horse. Arthur and Aoi are simply people from the time of 1999 who were infected with a modified Helminth strain given by Albrecht to make a sort of pseudo-Excal and Mag respectively. They are not the original Excalibur and Mag.
Great question! So every Warframe built in the modern day is a clone of one of the originals. So you're not sacrificing a new person to make one, but you are kinda sorta 3D printing a copy of a mutated orokin citizen corpse.
*SPOILER ALERT* so I search and found your video after the Jade shadows update. I dont know if its right, but Jade used to be human and transform into Warframe, and Sorren (aka Stalker) used to be human too, but somehow he still transform into so-called Warframe form but he still have old memory, just like Umbra, but Tenno can't interact with Stalker like Umbra, so any idea why this happen?
Not sure if the Orokin are just that stupid or it's just that their inflated egos are so big they can't give a rat's ass about any other life form aside from their own. The fact that it doesn't matter if you volunteered or not just kinda proves they're egotistic sociopaths. Can't even blame the Sentients when they tried to bite the hand that made them. I half-expected the video to have a segment about the Entrati family in Deimos though. They're the Orokin that got infected. And I honestly wonder if it's why they're more likeable than the average Orokin. Maybe the infestation isn't so bad after all.
Yup! I'll be covering the Entrati family in a future vid (wanted to set them up with the bio-bomb stuff though). I would also say that maybe the infestation was a factor, but it could've also just been the years of seeing what the Orokin did to the empire. Also, from what I recall I think it was Mother and the Son that weren't always the nicest anyways (they got better over time though)
Orokin: "The risk was calculated but damn am I bad at math."
Lmao exactly!!
Perfect description of faction if I’ve ever seen one
Limbo lmao
Summarize the entire Warframe lore in one sentence, why don't you?
Seems to sum up most of the orokin decision making results
It’s almost like the orokin get bored and try and invent a new thing to deal with every week
"Hmm, what kind of problem do I wanna make for myself today?" 😂 Classic power of corruption.
I mean... Ballas did say in the Sacrifice Quest that everything they touched seemed to turn against them: Citizens, Sentients, Infested, Tenno. Everyone just really hates the Orokin.
@@merilynnshark6144considering the Orokin are essentially hyper-advanced space septillionares, that checks out.
@@merilynnshark6144I mean they're assholes, aren't they?
Orokin: "Everything we build keeps turning against us... we should build something stronger and more powerful to defeat them!"
"Oh no, the stronger thing also turned against us....we should build something stronger than the stronger thing to defeat it." (pattern recognition isn't one of their strong suits.)
If at once you don't succeed, try, try again.
Dear Orokin,
Maybe instead of building more powerful lifeforms that are going to ignite an infinitely long space war, you could just try not being a giant bag of dicks.
Sincerely,
Every single soul suffering in the origin system
'Madness is doing the same thing again and again but expecting different result'
For me personally, discovering that warframes are infested people was a really cool moment. I wasn't expecting such horror-ish story from this game at all.
We see the process of creating one of the warframes in Umbra's quest, but it's a small part of the whole process, I believe. If I remember right, Orokin was also altering minds of warframes, leaving no memories of the host body, messing with their emotions and such. But yet they remained uncontrollable, which wasn't fixed untill Tenno took the stage.
And, of course, these procedures were completed no matter if a person agreed or if they did not.
Crafting warframes feels messed up too. If we only make copies, why than Umbra got all of his memories, all of his pain, all of his anger still intact? Does it happen for every frame we craft? Do we have to deal with pain of every different warframe that we own?
So from a little digging, it seems that Umbra had something called an Umbral Transference Bolt in him which is part of the reason why he was able to retain his memories (that and sheer angry). And yup! The tenno at least had to share/quiet the emotions and memories of at least the original Warframes. Since the tenno had already gone through such traumatic stuff from their time on the Zariman, they could relate to the Warframes pain and work with them.
don't feel bad the warframe we make are not from human only the protoframe (first warframe in lore) and we can't control umbra beford he let us
Well, now all warframes are just suits except for Umbra
@@corgthemighty, quite the opposite. Every frame have a transference bolt. That temper their identity and make them "bio-drones". But the first generation of warframes didn't had transference and were able to retain their memories, their inner self, like Sorren (Stalker), Jade, Gara and many others.
Only the copies we made have transference systems.
Umbra it's a special case .
Btw, without transference kit, every single one of them will behave exactly like Umbra.
What we do are indeed copies, but perfect copies nonetheless. Next time, when you craft a new frame look closely to what materials you use.
It's said, humans are stardust (the most rare and complex elements from the heart of a dying star are in a human body), and think at perfect bioengineering of the Orokin, the seamless cloning tech (Grineer) and you'll have the answer about our freshly crafted bio drones, if are still individuals or not.
Dont forget that we had the intact chunks of umbra. That probably included an intact brain. @@corgthemighty
Bro's got that Albrecht Entrati drip
Please do the Corpus next
Fire. Fusion. Void my friend.
interesting detail that makes the orokin seem SLIGHTLY less incompetent is that the sentient can fairly easily take control of machines. Hence they needed something that wasn't machines to fight the sentient. Thus weaponizing the biological infested seemed like a somewhat logical conclusion. This is also what lead ballas to the realisation of combining the idea of machines (they created the sentients and that didn't go well) and biology (the infestation which also didn't go well) by creating the warframes, which as mentioned initially were just supposed to remain loyal and sane, which they didn't. Thank god we have random void kids mumbling about tapping against walls.
The infestation wasn't created as "the infestation".
It was created as technocyte, nano tech which allows bio mech hybridisation.
Yup, kind of half covered that later into the vid
2:20 the infested bomb achieved its purpose, to shield the necralisk, isolation vaults, Albrechts’s labs and all void related intel, stopping the sentients from learning ways to adapt to their only true weakness
The emissary strain sure sounds a lot like a certain boy band back in 1999
Like 97% of the problems in Warframe were caused by the Oriken. Also Alad V vid gonna go crazy with what he's done lol
I feel like Alad V is the spiritual successor to the Orokin cause dang does he get involved with lot of stuff he shouldn't.
@corgthemighty For sure but I feel like with what he's done and what he knows he may be another case like the Grineer queens?
@@calebhounsell8132How so?
@corgthemighty Like another Orokin that got away from the Sentients and used kuva to transfer their mind to a Corpo body or even they simply removing their body modifications and hiding among the Corpo. I just feel like he knows too much about the warframes and sentients that he has to have some connection to the Orokin. Or I'm just overthinking this 😅
@@calebhounsell8132 No, that's such a cool theory. Overthinking is half the fun! That would be wild to find out that he's some sort of Orokin survivor though, he'd definitely fit the part. That just makes me wonder what would have happened if the Grineer Queens had done Continuinty into Corpus bodies instead of Grineer ones, like would they be slightly more sane today.
Infested out here making the Flood look like intelligent Walkers
We don't talk about the copyright strain lmao (would love to see a death battle between them though)
Idk man. You don’t see the infested speaking in iambic pentameter and strangling planets with star-roads
@mysteriousstranger5873 Nah they win by a mile with that, but I'd still be scared shitless of something that's capable of giving a halo ring self-awareness🫥
The infested is the Flood we have at home
I too have a cute lil parasitic hivemind in my own verse that is just flat out op (and probably beats the infested any day, but loses to later stages of the Flood because of... star-roads).
They're called the Fog and they're a supernatural Infestation that corrupts a bunch of different kinds of matter (except aluminum alloys) with this aptly named fog that they have. They're also about as smart as the Flood, but they have a weakness to supernatural entities due to their own supernatural nature. God basically uses them as Noah's Flood for the rest of the galaxy until they get wiped out by another faction that I made (and really like).
It's funny how these Warframe videos are doing consistently incredibly well.
It's been a lot of fun so far!
The infestation is called that in the modern origin system.
It’s actual name is the “Technocyte”
They’re biomechanical nanites that went haywire.
Yup! Kind of half covered that later in the vid
Dude these videos are actually so helpful and engaging.
Aww thank you so much!!! Glad I can make them for you guys!
Alad v has so much lore not covered in the game anymore which ties into the events of everything basically 😭 he's basically the modern day ballas i think the only thing he didnt have his hands in is the old war
Honestly, if they revealed he somehow had a part in the old war, I wouldn't be surprised at this point because he has his hands in a lot of stuff (and all of it ends up problematic)
I call the massive lips in my Orbiter "Wallnut"
Also the Helminth in the Operator (you the player's ship) can feed it so it can prodiuce bio matter which you can use to swap out and inject other powers into other warframes which requires you to feed Wallnut a frame you don't want to use anymore (like Non-Prime versions of Warframes) to get said powers.
Coming back to this vid 7 months later is fun. And now there’s updates quest dialogue from the lotus stating that the infestation predates any orokin records. Which I believe was added during the lotus eaters update.
Makes sense considering 1999 is called a “plague year”
That's cool! That could also mean a Dark Sector connection could still be in the cards since the infestation could have started from that (I just really wanna see my boy Hayden in the game lol)
Yeah and apperently according to the ARG Techrot (the ancestor of the Infestation) was created by the local version of Digital Extremes by accident when they were working on War Sector
"Ballas, no I'm not joking." 😂
Out of everybody they could have turned to lol
Let's just agree to blame Ballas for this.
I like that deal 🤝
@@corgthemighty deal 🤝
@@maximkusanagi Call him Ballass from now on cause hehe funi ball ass
What’s so cool about the infestation is that without it we wouldn’t have Excalibur Umbra. He was one of the test subjects who went feral.
I mean we really wouldn't have the collective whole of Warframes, crazy the connections DE makes
3:37 yes its literally both some of the hive minds are greater and have control of half a planet, the two worms come to mind, it’s basically a hierarchy of hive minds, wich means yes there ARE Nidus divisions for every player in game and for the infestation, it’s honestly a great way to introduce infested litches wile not have to spend more of their time developing unique models of the infested, just make us fight different versions of Nidus.
I actually forgot that the infested don't have their own equivalent of liches, but I am excited to see what DE does because they'll probably introduce them eventually.
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Love your videos!! I always watch them at night and they’re always great!!
That's awesome! I'm glad you like them!
oh man, the infestation... caused sommany problems
and to think that it was almost extinct in the solar system until a certain grineer scientist unleashed it by accident
The Infested just got a visual and lore update so I can't wait to see you revisit this one!
To be fair, Ballas, despite hating his job, went pretty big brain
Oh yeah, incredibly book smart, just horrible wisdom and empathy stats.
I learned way more from a few minutes of your videos than I have from hundreds of hours in this game
i think the orokin originaly called it the tennocyte virus and then the infestation when it breached containment
And we need to wait until 1999 to see the TV strain 😂
And then the techrot came up, and now we have no idea of how the timeline works.
Technically, it's colloquially known as the infestation but it's actually called Technocyte
Yup! Kind of mentioned that near the end of the video, but I probably should have brought it up earlier.
Small correction (at least as far as I know): The Orokin didn't give the Infestation that name when they first created it, that came later. The name they originally had for it was the "Technocyte Virus", which just sounds so much friendlier.
Thank you for your contribution to the library. Yup even with the original name it's like...did you really see it going any other way?
Ohhh someone did think to correct him, mb mb
Huh now I feel a little bad for naming my Helminth "Garbage Can".
Great video that is easily digestible (like the helminth with my nano spores) as always. Will you make a video explaining the origins of the corpus at some point? I’ve heard we’re getting some more Nef Anyo lore soon aswell.
Yup! In fact, part 1 of their lore is the next Warframe vid I have planned, but there will be one more before that that I hope people will enjoy.
You know this reddit screenshot of the guy saying "I love how every story has its version of, and then this was this guy...", it stays true till this day
I love that meme. Gods imagine Zeus and Ballas in a room together.
Also one thing to remember.
the hive mind is sapient.
Oh also don't forget the strain from an entirely different universe, plus the one from a long time ago
Corg really hit the nail on the head with how incredibly stupid the orokin were despite their technological advancement 😂
If there is one lesson I leave you all with, it better be that. That, and Ballas is cringe.
I named my helmnth mommy and it looks like I was correct when naming it.
Fun fact: the infestation are nanites
Add this the grey strain is the sub infestation that albretch use in the past and to create the giant bodys in the sanctum anatómica
Well, originally infestation wasn't called like that.
It was called "Technocite", nanoorganisms that restructured organic and unorganic matter into biomechanic amalgamations.
UPD. Ah, you mentioned technocyte at the end of video.
It is not strain though, all infestation is technocyte. And in most locations it will look like Orokin Derelicts. Look at Eris for exampke.
Aclaration, the virus was known as "Helmint" the infestation is the name of the faction given by regular people
If your waistcoat had a circle patternrather than square it would be vary Entrati like.
We must not be overcome by…*THE FLOOD* the infested. Yes. Definitely the infested
Always remember they aren’t called infested by orokin scientists they are the Technocyte the infested is more like a ‘street name’
A FELLOW CORGI!!! HELLO MY FRIEND!
I eagerly await Narmer . . .
I am terrified to learn more about them lol
@@corgthemighty I mean, you summed it up pretty good with "This is Ballas, Ballas is cringe."
your drip reminds me of the necramech void pod/shell or something very cool!
The Orokin are kinda like the Forerunners if the Forerunners actually wanted to create the Flood.
I assume that later on you will cover what little is known for now about Albrecht's unfinished project - the Vessels.
Yup! I have a kind of order I want to cover things in just so I don't end up talking about things without prior context. But definitely will talk about them because they are so cooooool!!!
@@corgthemighty hardly can wait for future videos, subbed yesterday ^^
@@Sevenus29 Welcome to the Library then Loreling! Hope you enjoy the ride.
the cannon name for the ship infestation is Greg. You cannot change my mind
Fair lmao
Man, long time without hearing of Salad V
These warframe lore videos are very good
Nice new breath for summarizes lore videos
Nice content 👍
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And there's definitely more to come! Glad you're enjoying them!
I think they retconned that the orokin made the infestation since the techrot is now a thing and I believe the orokin are post humans. Though with warframe diving into weird timey wimey shit who knows anymore.
Technically all warframes now are just suits. Only Excalibur Umbra isn't a suit and he is the only warframe that we know of that was created from that hybrid infestation creating thing
I have one thing on my mind something whit me always is the emissary strain what caused it to mutate what happened to arlo is the base infestation connected weres arlo and what is he doing why do human maintain that normal human like shape and how the hell its more intelligent
what if the infestation in warhammer 40k is coming from the Teno universe
You look like the other half of loid humanized. This is compliment
Thank you very much! I'm glad people like the outfit.
So would my Warframe using the Cedo shotgun just be payback for all those Flood missions from Halo?
Absolutely go for it! 💯
@@corgthemightyLike I haven't been doing it since I built Kullervo... I'm all about the war crimes.
@@JaxMerrick God if Warframe had a Hague it would not last long lol (also, sorry, I accidentally disliked your comment for a sec lmao)
@@corgthemightyThat sounds like an interesting concept for a video: if the Tenno faced trials for war crimes, who in the Origin System can preside as judge?
Or another: what would be the main war crime of each Warframe?
....And then there's deimos/orokin derelict
The nsme would be Technocyte, thats the name of the infestation as a Virus.
Ah ok you got it.
Theres also a possibility that other hives are like an outpost still connected to the main Hivemind, which we still dont know where its located, each strain with the exception of Helminth are connected to the main hivemind in some way as Alad was trying his hardest to resist it, same with the Entrati they heard the hivemind telling them to let the heart stop.
Yup! I decided to explain the strains at the end but I can see how I might've wanted to bring it up earlier.
Also yeah! I was talking over some ideas with another commenter and we talked about what if the main Hive Mind is an infested planet (like Deimos but bigger and completely alive), that you have to blow up and then do missions on the exploded chunks of the planet.
The helminth ate my Kavat! 😂 She got out but still!!!!!
IIRC, the whole "early Warframes going insane" thing is kinda shaky, and (from what I can tell) may have been an in-universe excuse for/misunderstanding of them turning on their masters, leading to further Warframes being put into a vegetative state without pilots. Sure, Umbra is the only sane sapient Warframe we have access to, but who is to say that he is the only one to have rebelled against the Orokin?
We have dialogue in Mirage Prime's trailer PERSONIFYING her, even saying that she deliberately went against and altered her own design when she was infected with Helminth. Who knows what she did when she was done transforming?
Then we have Lavos. His leverian ends with him having changed and fused himself and the Archimedean Javi together before killing the Lrokin that imprisoned Javi and watched as he was "executed". Was it truly Lavos himself in this Leverian, or was a Tenno the one behind the creation of Lavos as we know him now?
Hell, our most blatant examples against this are Stalker and Jade. Stalker willingly became a Warframe in the hopes that he would be with Jade once again. Despite their downfall leading to his own freedom and the implication that the long time between the Naga Drums and the Tenno awakening has partly deteriorated his mind, he still holds on to this loyalty to his dead golden lords- albeit likely forgetting why he is fighting in the first place.
Jade was fully sapient and capable of making her own decisions- even peacefully resisting transference by soothing her would-be pilot to sleep before escaping. She would eventually choose to lie dormant for centuries after the fall of the Orokin so that her child may be born, though it came at the cost of her own life.
Excuse my sir!!! I love you frames. Where can I find those glasses frames online?
Thought you meant my Warframes for a sec lmao. I've had them for a while, but you should be able to search up colored steampunk sunglasses on amazon and get some good options. Hope this helps!
@@corgthemighty thank you vm
So when we build warframes from blueprint.. we’re printing people?
Did a little extra digging for this and realized my explanation is kind of half right. When we build Warframes, we seem to be making a copy of the original Warframe that was made way back when. So we're not making a brand new human sacrifice, but we are kind of 3-D printing a model of a deformed infestation corpse. Does that make sense?
@@corgthemighty So, our foundry is an FDM 3-D printer, but the filament is Helminth Strain?
@@JaxMerrick Essentially yeah! 😂 Imagine if it would mess up sometimes though and you just get Warframe wires everywhere.
@@corgthemighty I'm picturing a flesh cake with too much baking soda...
@@JaxMerrickHorrifying, they should put it in an update lol
I thought our operators were contaminated with Void energies during the (SPOILERS)
Zariman jump and only a handful of us survived the jump. For those that didn't make it on the zariman from the start were probably being killed off by the void angels. And with this void wielding powers unique and second to none gave us a frame because our void powers were out of control for us to control our void powers and this unique power that let's us control our frames is called transference and that's why we keep our buts sat down on our chair permanently at the end events of the second dream because the chair is the only thing keeping us alive and letting us control our frames from our ship But our frames can still die even with the operator controlling the current frame he's/she's using. I don't know how our frames die but it's just part of the game or lore somewhat
...I believe that I am saying this, but I am thankful that this is not a viral video. Because while the surprise is already years old, openly speaking of the game lore with most of it it's story quests in one big summary only makes interested players who wants to play for the story is disenchanting them for that experience and are also making most of them bound to just pack up and leave.
In other videos, it's fine. Because they'll be adding a spoiler warning. At the title. Or in the video.
While I understand this 'Movie Years ago, we can spoil now' mentality, those are movies. This is a game that requires you to invest 100 hours to get a small sip of another cinematic cutscene.
I know that this sounds small but I asked people that plays new games like Helldivers usually say 100 hours is already a huge investment.
So please if you could, all O would ask for is to add a spoiler at the title.
People who want to spoil themselves could easily find the video. I know that there are already a ton of videos speaking and spoiling about this but let's not add more oil to the fire.
Meh, what the hell am I saying, it's already there.
From your last message, it looks like you already found the spoiler warning I included near the beginning, but just wanted to clarify that I agree with what you're saying. I definitely understand the want to keep the magic in tact for new players, and so I appreciate you wanting a spoiler warning in these types of videos.
Love this video but there is a thing that is wrong with it, that being the origin of the technocyte because in the newest lore it is suggested that instead of being created by the orokin it actually already existed (my source is the entrati fragments in the newest update)
You bring up a good point cause I know it comes up in the 1999 stuff, I just haven't gotten a chance to dive too deep into it yet. (Also, appreciate that you still liked the video!)
@corgthemighty np! Also, another fun fact: the grey strain has the ability to make gigantic creatures and were, in fact, created by our favorite orokin (that is not Ballas) eho we call Albert Entrati in an attempt to keep the murmur at an ears length, the first experiments being those giant statues we see in his labs
wait, I thought the "Son" of the Entrati family was the reason infestation broke out of the lab? because in the cutscenes for reaching certain ranks in standings, it was revealed that the "Son" let the infested go in purpose, so that "Mother" would pay more attention to him. Did I misunderstand or am I missing something? This game's lore is wild so I need some help 😅
You're totally good. From my understanding, when Deimos got bio-bomb, the Entrati family initially hid in their bunker essentially. They were relatively safe, but then yes the Son did eventually let things in. So the planet was already screwed anyways, the Son just made it worse for the family.
One question where do you buy your clothes 😅I like the arrangement
Don't tell anyone, but I think I might have accidentally stolen this vest. I used to be a theater kid and I think it was a costume piece I brought home one day by accident and never brought back. The glasses I got from amazon (just search steampunk colored sunglasses and you'll find something similar), the collared shirt I've had so long I forgot though lol sorry
is there any explanation why when we craft the warframes we need 4 parts (neuro,systems,chassis,bp itself) siince in lore they are infected humanoids?
were the orokin just able to make premade humanoid helmith body parts?
or is it just purely video game thing ?
loved the quick explanation of their lore either way, very awesome
From what I understand, the original iterations of each Warframe were made from people (or at least most of them). The blueprints we gather allow us to make copies of those frames. So we're not sacrificing an entire new person to make them, but we are basically 3D printing a horribly mutate corpse. Does that answer your question friend? (also thank you for the kind words!!)
@@corgthemighty oh yes it does, thank you for your time !
Tecnocyte virus is the name.
Yup! Covered later in the vid
Not sure if anyone mentioned this but does nidus not have a closer relation to the infested or something? Or is that a seperate video entirely?
Some were Orokin citizens, though there are...others as well.
Ranging from an amalgamation of random body parts resewn together after their Warframes were deemed "failures."
A cyborg can apparently become infested as well, implying the Helminth is capable of similar feets to the Mutalist strain.
There's Quorvex, supposedly there was no body with the frame built around something refered to as the "Crucible Core" by the Orokins most esteemed. How? I have no idea, and I fear the answer.
Then there is Wisp, who supposedly was a well-endowed subject in the same manner as Dagath; but, the origin of her Prime implies that Wisp is not of our universe or timeline thanks to Eternalism.
This makes me super excited because I'm planning on doing a larger video covering all of the Warframes and I keep getting more and more interesting tidbits!
Talking ab the helmith
What did u guys name your "good boy"
Mine is charmy😂😂😂
am I the only one who didn't get the copyright joke? 😭
Lol, the joke is that the Infestation are a lot like the Flood from Halo.
3:07 Btw to add on to that, not every warframe is necessarily a orokin citizen, dagaths lore indicates shes from duviri and with the 1999 update, excalibur and mag originated on earth
Just to clarify: Dagath is not from Duviri, she was a Dax gravely wounded in an "accident" that her lovers set up in order to try and kill her beloved horse.
Arthur and Aoi are simply people from the time of 1999 who were infected with a modified Helminth strain given by Albrecht to make a sort of pseudo-Excal and Mag respectively. They are not the original Excalibur and Mag.
@@frostyprime8110 alr thx for clarifying
Why don't I ever need a Orokin citizen to build my frames? Is it a bug?
Great question! So every Warframe built in the modern day is a clone of one of the originals. So you're not sacrificing a new person to make one, but you are kinda sorta 3D printing a copy of a mutated orokin citizen corpse.
@@corgthemighty Oh, ok now I get it. Thanks
*SPOILER ALERT*
so I search and found your video after the Jade shadows update. I dont know if its right, but Jade used to be human and transform into Warframe, and Sorren (aka Stalker) used to be human too, but somehow he still transform into so-called Warframe form but he still have old memory, just like Umbra, but Tenno can't interact with Stalker like Umbra, so any idea why this happen?
Not sure if the Orokin are just that stupid or it's just that their inflated egos are so big they can't give a rat's ass about any other life form aside from their own. The fact that it doesn't matter if you volunteered or not just kinda proves they're egotistic sociopaths. Can't even blame the Sentients when they tried to bite the hand that made them.
I half-expected the video to have a segment about the Entrati family in Deimos though. They're the Orokin that got infected. And I honestly wonder if it's why they're more likeable than the average Orokin. Maybe the infestation isn't so bad after all.
Yup! I'll be covering the Entrati family in a future vid (wanted to set them up with the bio-bomb stuff though). I would also say that maybe the infestation was a factor, but it could've also just been the years of seeing what the Orokin did to the empire. Also, from what I recall I think it was Mother and the Son that weren't always the nicest anyways (they got better over time though)
i did named my helminth Audrey 2 hahaha
My guy kinda looks like human loid 😀
Stupendous drip
Gotta be looking good as a Loremaster-in-training
I named mines Audrey 2
Its funny i actually named my helminth audrey ||.
YES!! Am I addressing a fellow theater kid?
@@corgthemighty See, I avoided it, thinking it would be a too gauche. But then again, I named mine Hierophant Nox.
Wrong, I crafted all my frames