A small correction. The Sentients were sent to Tau before the Zariman. The Zariman was to be the first colony ship to go to Tau and also build the Solar Rail between the Origin system and Tau, it was the Sentient's job to terraform Tau before they got there
@@ridleydidnothingwrong I know Im right lol. It was literally the Sentients' job to build the solar rail, not just terraform. And if the Sentients had gone first, they would have done their job and the Zariman would have made it to Tau safely. Zariman failed so the Orokin needed something that can adapt and is expendable to do the job, hence made and sent the Sentients. It's all in the crewman logs.
At least Warframe doesn't cut the lore bits out as much as Destiny 2 Still, it's good to have vids that help with catching up to this stuff (in addition I love the vids that also go into media, myths and history that inspired the lore of warframe)
Couple minor corrections: -Technically Tau was just another solar system, not another galaxy. The fact that the Orokin empire covered only one star system and had to go through this much trouble to reach a second one and still fail is kinda significant. -From what I gather the sterilization/fragmentation bit is mostly that Sentients sterilized by the jump to Origin can't make any more *new* Sentients. They can split off pieces of themselves that can function autonomously as extensions of their host, but they're just that; fragments and appendages under the control of their progenitor Sentient and ironically lacking true sentience of their own.
Thank you for your contribution to the library! I believe this was the last vid I referred to it as a galaxy so that's been fixed. And yup, so new sentient consciousnesses can't be made, but little drones can be.
If I had a nickel for everytime instantly became engaged by content on TH-cam because of that one Phineas and Ferb joke, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot but, I love that it happened twice.
Technically they all adapt, it's just the Eidolons whose adaptation is broken and by the time you encounter the ones from Railjack or The New War you've already got countermeasures in place for said adaptation.
That's honestly awesome to hear, I always try to capture the highlights and vibe of whatever I'm talking on and be as straightforward as possible since I know that some lore can be confusing (especially Warframe's lol)
Ignore this, I was a dumb and had incorrect information. -Small correction, The Sentients were always sentient, they didn't gain sentience while terraforming Tau. Nor was their void weakness to keep them from coming back. The voidness was put in place so that trip to Tau (which was done via void jump) would sterilize the sentients, preventing them from reproducing. That way once the sentients were there, they'd slowly die off without being able to recoup population numbers, and once they were gone the orokin would go to tau to fuck it up.-
So looking for some quick clarification on some things. (also, not trying to be hostile and say you're wrong or anything, just providing my references to maybe get a convo going): 1. In the Ropalolyst boss fight, the Lotus talks a bit about the Sentient's journey to Tau: "But my family's journey was long. Time began to change their light. Creativity. Pride. A will to live." I took this to mean that along the way is when the Sentients gained their full sentience. Is there another line somewhere else I should look at that corrects this? 2. In the Detron Crewman Synthesis Imprint, when asked what will keep the Sentients from turning on the Orokin, Archimedian Perintol says "The Void is poison to them. Once they have reached Tau they will be marooned there. To travel the rail here would destroy them. Whatever the risks, the Origin system will be-" To me this does state that the void weakness was put in place because it was thought that the Void would destroy them (also implying that the Sentients just travelled through Space normally to reach Tau which probably was a hell of a road trip." 3. During the Sacrifice quest, Ballas, referring to the Sentients, says "What led us here? You did. You vile blasphemies. Machines... thinking... breeding... You were to bear us a new, promised land. But when you arrived at that distant world... you knew that in time, we would bring ruin to it as well. As we had to Earth. And so it was... we came to war." First, he uses the word "breeding" which I believe means the Sentients could still reproduce on the way to Tau. This also clarifies that the Sentients rebelled because they knew what the Orokin would do to Tau. However, Ballas has been known to sometimes be an unreliable narrator, so if there is another line that refutes this let me know.
@@corgthemighty Tl;Dr: I am dumb and was wrong. Ok, this is really embarrassing, but I tried to find my sources and came up with nothing. I swear I wasn't just talking out of my ass, this is how I remembered the sentient lore going. But after looking for sources I'm very clearly wrong. My only guess is that I was remembering a very old lore interpretation or theory from before the sentients got more details about them, and took it as canon. It's entirely my fault, I didn't do my due diligence to make sure my knowledge was up to date. I'm sorry.
My friend you're not dumb, everyone can get info off (especially when it comes to things like Warframe where the lore can sometimes be akin to a plate of void spaghetti), and I appreciate you trying to add to the discussion. That's why I had that little disclaimer at the start of my comment that I wasn't trying to "take you down a peg" or anything. I do hope you'll continue to comment in the future if anything else seems off because I myself am also prone to getting things off from time to time (I just make sure to ask people about where they're getting their stuff from so I know where else to find information). Hope you have a wonderful day!
@@corgthemighty I know you weren't trying to "take me down a peg", all's good in that regard. I'll definitely keep watching your stuff, you make good videos after all. Hope you have a great day too man.
I will definitely be releasing some longer videos in the future, and I'm glad to hear that there's some interest in that. But yeah, editing can take a bit of time lol
@@JaxMerrick Wait for real? Then yes, actually researching him right now.......(researching noises)......wait, it was a pyramid scheme the whole time?!?
I think part of it is they took a looooong time physically traveling to tau and then took the void to quickly invade origin but idk it’s confusing if the void is space outside the origin system or a pocket space that compacts space like the nether in minecraft
I just started watching this series so for forgive me if he already corrected this later, but the sentients aren't exactly robots. They have AI minds but their bodies are organic, they are living creatures. Hence the ability to reproduce. The Orokin actually hated the idea of a traditional robot. This is also why the Warframes are a strain of the infestation and not just robot suits Edit: another example would be the unum tower and our drop ships
I definitely see where you're coming from. I referred to them as robots as I've heard them referred to as "machines" multiple times in game, so I just leaned more into that.
What I find funny is that everything the orokin made was biological. The warframes, the infestation, and the orokin towers, like the unum in cetus for example, were all either fully biological or biomechanic in some way. They made a fully robotic creation for the first time in orokin history and it almost instantly backfired and went to war with them.
And tbf, they themselves knew that it could backfire since building AI was extremely taboo. Only cause Ballas pulled a fast one did we get the Old War (wait, just realized Ballas kind of started both the Old War and New War. Let's hope he doesn't start the New New War too lol)
I dont think the Orokin wanted a new Galaxy, as i remember, TAU is the closest solar system to the Origin system. Both are in the milky way galaxy. The solar rail is like a Mass Relai from mass effect.
Absolutely! From what I can tell, it has a very simple basic explanation that then quickly spiderwebs into a bunch of other complex stuff. It's like if you started with 1+1 = 2, and then immediately jumped to senior level trigonometry.
Ah isn't it only hunhow and Natah the only sentients that were sterilized as I though they were the only two sentient sent back from Tua system the rest stayed in Tau..... so its not all the sentents being sterile it's just all the ones in the origin system... shrug
I’ve a soft spot for “synthetics” or non-biological sentients, artificial or otherwise. I blame the Geth. Their network intelligence and society is just fascinating.
Great question. So from additional research, the Sentients seem to be more like an artificial race meant to act as robots without actually being just all metal I think. So they had reproductive organs (or at least their equivalent of them), that then got scarred by the Void.
I'm actually not quite sure, and can't seem to find an answer on it, although maybe I'm just not looking in the right places. I assume it's either destroyed or not working since some faction would've tried to use it (hell maybe the sentients destroyed it to make sure the Orokin couldn't get to Tau). But yeah, I do hope you are able to get the answer to your question though!
At least the Sentient's weakness is literally being unmade by Void energy! Darwin was killed by some heat energy or some stupid thing. That guy adapted to DEATH itself! Being unmade should have been the only answer to both of them!
I wish Darwin would have shown up in the Deadpool Wolverine movie somehow because he's such a cool idea for a character that we really didn't get to see much of.
@@corgthemighty on second thought maybe it's better he doesn't get the Johnny Storm treatment lol Also my bad I can't watch your Vay Hek video yet I'm in church lol
@bappojujubes981 Lol, I mean, just start playing the video over the church speakers. The people need to hear the word of the good Councilor (I'm kidding, enjoy your church service!)
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A small correction. The Sentients were sent to Tau before the Zariman. The Zariman was to be the first colony ship to go to Tau and also build the Solar Rail between the Origin system and Tau, it was the Sentient's job to terraform Tau before they got there
Good to know! Thanks for the info!
@@corgthemighty You're welcome!
Sorry this is wrong. The info in the video is correct.
@@ridleydidnothingwrong I know Im right lol. It was literally the Sentients' job to build the solar rail, not just terraform. And if the Sentients had gone first, they would have done their job and the Zariman would have made it to Tau safely.
Zariman failed so the Orokin needed something that can adapt and is expendable to do the job, hence made and sent the Sentients. It's all in the crewman logs.
Hey leverian, take a shot everytime the orokin create something that comes to haunt them later.
No! You would get liver poisoning in 10 minutes!😂
Alad V: Hold my beer
That's either 0 or spontaneous combustion
As a warframe player i really like these videos because you explain the bunch of lore in an easy way lol. Have a good one mate.
You as well! Yup! It's always a goal of mine to break things down in a way that I feel people can understand.
But of course, I also welcome questions if something is confusing 😅
At least Warframe doesn't cut the lore bits out as much as Destiny 2
Still, it's good to have vids that help with catching up to this stuff (in addition I love the vids that also go into media, myths and history that inspired the lore of warframe)
Couple minor corrections:
-Technically Tau was just another solar system, not another galaxy. The fact that the Orokin empire covered only one star system and had to go through this much trouble to reach a second one and still fail is kinda significant.
-From what I gather the sterilization/fragmentation bit is mostly that Sentients sterilized by the jump to Origin can't make any more *new* Sentients. They can split off pieces of themselves that can function autonomously as extensions of their host, but they're just that; fragments and appendages under the control of their progenitor Sentient and ironically lacking true sentience of their own.
Thank you for your contribution to the library! I believe this was the last vid I referred to it as a galaxy so that's been fixed. And yup, so new sentient consciousnesses can't be made, but little drones can be.
If I had a nickel for everytime instantly became engaged by content on TH-cam because of that one Phineas and Ferb joke, I'd have two nickels.
Which isn't a lot but, I love that it happened twice.
Yo who was the first time? lol
Sentients: we have adaptation powers! But only if you fight the Battlyst and conculyst. Only they could afford the adaptation
Adaptation? In this economy? 😂
Technically they all adapt, it's just the Eidolons whose adaptation is broken and by the time you encounter the ones from Railjack or The New War you've already got countermeasures in place for said adaptation.
I'd say you didnt have to murder Darwin like that but it appears someone got to him first
You need to see Star Trek Voyager and Stargate SG1. Then you'll have 4 nickels.
add JJK and he'll have 5
Just as I’m getting back to warframe, TH-cam recommends this, really digestible lore bits. Looking forward to the next videos!
It's a sign!! Also love to hear that!
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4 nickels for me since big raga got stomped in jjk
The opps stomped big raga, I can't believe it lmao
“You can see it sentient you can see my Volts technique!”
Little thing, they are systems not galaxies, we are in the solar system, not the solar galaxy lol
Yup! I've corrected it in future videos (even though galaxy sounds cooler in my opinion meh)
1:03 they can't adapt fast enough if I'm using 100 status effects per second!
3:32 Well Hunhow does refer to his battalysts as "my fragments" in the Second Dream, so it makes sense...
The more I play this game the clearer to me is the fact that the Sentients are actually the ones in the right here.
The first time? Maybe. The second time? No, not really
"if i had a nickel for every time i saw someone with adaptation powers get bodied i'd have two nickels"
WITH THIS TREASURE I SUMMON-
I feel like I watched a 20 minute video with how much you cover in these videos. And that's impressive.
That's honestly awesome to hear, I always try to capture the highlights and vibe of whatever I'm talking on and be as straightforward as possible since I know that some lore can be confusing (especially Warframe's lol)
Ignore this, I was a dumb and had incorrect information.
-Small correction, The Sentients were always sentient, they didn't gain sentience while terraforming Tau. Nor was their void weakness to keep them from coming back. The voidness was put in place so that trip to Tau (which was done via void jump) would sterilize the sentients, preventing them from reproducing. That way once the sentients were there, they'd slowly die off without being able to recoup population numbers, and once they were gone the orokin would go to tau to fuck it up.-
So looking for some quick clarification on some things. (also, not trying to be hostile and say you're wrong or anything, just providing my references to maybe get a convo going):
1. In the Ropalolyst boss fight, the Lotus talks a bit about the Sentient's journey to Tau: "But my family's journey was long. Time began to change their light. Creativity. Pride. A will to live." I took this to mean that along the way is when the Sentients gained their full sentience. Is there another line somewhere else I should look at that corrects this?
2. In the Detron Crewman Synthesis Imprint, when asked what will keep the Sentients from turning on the Orokin, Archimedian Perintol says "The Void is poison to them. Once they have reached Tau they will be marooned there. To travel the rail here would destroy them. Whatever the risks, the Origin system will be-" To me this does state that the void weakness was put in place because it was thought that the Void would destroy them (also implying that the Sentients just travelled through Space normally to reach Tau which probably was a hell of a road trip."
3. During the Sacrifice quest, Ballas, referring to the Sentients, says "What led us here? You did. You vile blasphemies. Machines... thinking... breeding... You were to bear us a new, promised land. But when you arrived at that distant world... you knew that in time, we would bring ruin to it as well. As we had to Earth. And so it was... we came to war." First, he uses the word "breeding" which I believe means the Sentients could still reproduce on the way to Tau. This also clarifies that the Sentients rebelled because they knew what the Orokin would do to Tau. However, Ballas has been known to sometimes be an unreliable narrator, so if there is another line that refutes this let me know.
@@corgthemighty
Tl;Dr: I am dumb and was wrong.
Ok, this is really embarrassing, but I tried to find my sources and came up with nothing. I swear I wasn't just talking out of my ass, this is how I remembered the sentient lore going. But after looking for sources I'm very clearly wrong. My only guess is that I was remembering a very old lore interpretation or theory from before the sentients got more details about them, and took it as canon. It's entirely my fault, I didn't do my due diligence to make sure my knowledge was up to date. I'm sorry.
My friend you're not dumb, everyone can get info off (especially when it comes to things like Warframe where the lore can sometimes be akin to a plate of void spaghetti), and I appreciate you trying to add to the discussion.
That's why I had that little disclaimer at the start of my comment that I wasn't trying to "take you down a peg" or anything. I do hope you'll continue to comment in the future if anything else seems off because I myself am also prone to getting things off from time to time (I just make sure to ask people about where they're getting their stuff from so I know where else to find information). Hope you have a wonderful day!
@@corgthemighty I know you weren't trying to "take me down a peg", all's good in that regard. I'll definitely keep watching your stuff, you make good videos after all. Hope you have a great day too man.
Hunhow does mention his wombs.
Gotta be my favourite faction, one of the reasons i play caliban
I wouldn't mind if the videos are 10 min long, but I understand might become more of a hassle to edit
I will definitely be releasing some longer videos in the future, and I'm glad to hear that there's some interest in that. But yeah, editing can take a bit of time lol
Great lore recap, very well done.
2:37 "this is my house and you will not take it from me"
Finally, TH-cam recommends me a good channel to watch. Now I can't wait to your possible future video on Parvos Granum.
Fire. Fusion. Void.
I'm excited to look into him as I actually didn't have much knowledge on him!
@@corgthemighty well, he's going to be a good choice soon with him supposedly being the antagonist of the next quest.
@@JaxMerrick Wait for real? Then yes, actually researching him right now.......(researching noises)......wait, it was a pyramid scheme the whole time?!?
I think part of it is they took a looooong time physically traveling to tau and then took the void to quickly invade origin but idk it’s confusing if the void is space outside the origin system or a pocket space that compacts space like the nether in minecraft
I just started watching this series so for forgive me if he already corrected this later, but the sentients aren't exactly robots. They have AI minds but their bodies are organic, they are living creatures. Hence the ability to reproduce. The Orokin actually hated the idea of a traditional robot. This is also why the Warframes are a strain of the infestation and not just robot suits
Edit: another example would be the unum tower and our drop ships
I definitely see where you're coming from. I referred to them as robots as I've heard them referred to as "machines" multiple times in game, so I just leaned more into that.
What I find funny is that everything the orokin made was biological. The warframes, the infestation, and the orokin towers, like the unum in cetus for example, were all either fully biological or biomechanic in some way.
They made a fully robotic creation for the first time in orokin history and it almost instantly backfired and went to war with them.
And tbf, they themselves knew that it could backfire since building AI was extremely taboo. Only cause Ballas pulled a fast one did we get the Old War (wait, just realized Ballas kind of started both the Old War and New War. Let's hope he doesn't start the New New War too lol)
@@corgthemighty New War 2: Electric Boogaloo
I dont think the Orokin wanted a new Galaxy, as i remember, TAU is the closest solar system to the Origin system.
Both are in the milky way galaxy.
The solar rail is like a Mass Relai from mass effect.
Yup! I was just calling it galaxies cause I thought it sounded cooler, didn't not the difference. It's been corrected in later vids.
i want longer videos!
Christ bless you but Ballas really can't stop taking L's huh?
could you talk about duviri in the future i still can't understand that clusterfuck
Absolutely! From what I can tell, it has a very simple basic explanation that then quickly spiderwebs into a bunch of other complex stuff. It's like if you started with 1+1 = 2, and then immediately jumped to senior level trigonometry.
Ah isn't it only hunhow and Natah the only sentients that were sterilized as I though they were the only two sentient sent back from Tua system the rest stayed in Tau..... so its not all the sentents being sterile it's just all the ones in the origin system... shrug
The only aliens in game… kinda?
Yes explain pazuul to me.
:( he confuses me the most out of all the characters.
Oh trust me Pazuul and the beasts will definitely get time in a video!
I’ve a soft spot for “synthetics” or non-biological sentients, artificial or otherwise.
I blame the Geth. Their network intelligence and society is just fascinating.
How can advanced robots "naturally" reproduce?
Great question. So from additional research, the Sentients seem to be more like an artificial race meant to act as robots without actually being just all metal I think. So they had reproductive organs (or at least their equivalent of them), that then got scarred by the Void.
Wait, what happened to the rail they were tasked to build while traveling?
I'm actually not quite sure, and can't seem to find an answer on it, although maybe I'm just not looking in the right places. I assume it's either destroyed or not working since some faction would've tried to use it (hell maybe the sentients destroyed it to make sure the Orokin couldn't get to Tau). But yeah, I do hope you are able to get the answer to your question though!
At least the Sentient's weakness is literally being unmade by Void energy! Darwin was killed by some heat energy or some stupid thing. That guy adapted to DEATH itself! Being unmade should have been the only answer to both of them!
I wish Darwin would have shown up in the Deadpool Wolverine movie somehow because he's such a cool idea for a character that we really didn't get to see much of.
@@corgthemighty TRUE and he fits the "unwanted Marvel characters who got shafted" so well!
@@bappojujubes981 Exactly, but knowing Deadpool movies, he might just get killed off again in an even more unsatisfying way just to rub it in lol
@@corgthemighty on second thought maybe it's better he doesn't get the Johnny Storm treatment lol
Also my bad I can't watch your Vay Hek video yet I'm in church lol
@bappojujubes981 Lol, I mean, just start playing the video over the church speakers. The people need to hear the word of the good Councilor (I'm kidding, enjoy your church service!)
there not weak we just got stronger
Egg
Hey do more
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