To your point at 2:11, you were actually correct the first time. We used to not be able to reforge blue items, and then GGG introduced great QoL that allowed us to do that! And then with this new harvest bench, they promptly removed it. If you see in the clip right afterwards it says "reforge a rare item", no mention of magic or normal rarity anymore. For this reason you actually cannot harvest reforge to reroll flasks anymore either, which is sad.
OH WTF. I didn't even notice! Thanks for pointing that out. When I was editing, I was like "why the heck am I making this rare? We can just do it on magic items now"
This perfectly describes me. Every single time I try to craft I end up in another country, covered in mud, being humped by a stray dog and with a huge headache and I have no idea how I got there.
Its exactly more risky to remove something or scary, and pity there is no reforge „mod” more common, but you can now craft it with fossils, so I guess they acually made this crafting, so everything in the game is important to use, Idk if everybody noticed it.
Without crafting checkpoints it feels terrible. You can use all your knowledge and money to create something unique and specific for a build and if everything fills up everything comes down to annulling...that's not fun. Essentially killed reasonable influenced awakeners orbs and my drive to craft/play
I'm excited, not only because you're still playing, but also you rerolled to the build I'm playing. I was just in the mid of crafting a really similar chest but without the chaos res, and with crusader's explody (tho I couldn't hit suppress). Keep up the good work!
It's not close to being dead but we already have so many slot maschines in the game. Being susceptable to fill out your mods when you are unlucky and hit one or multiple bad annuls isn't what I would call fun. Either way, thanks for the video o/
@@burningpipe2627 It very much is for a lot of people cause working 1 week long just for a base, only for RNG to kick you in the ass and losing a +100 Div base is anything *but* fun
@@electricheart7965 Sounds like a you problem tbh. try aiming a little lower instead of acting like you are entitled to a an ideal item just because you feel like you want to put currency in
@@burningpipe2627 ....? That's more like an everyone problem. Just because you don't have the ambitions and skill/knowledge to actually craft doesn't entitle you to be dismissive of the people that can and actually enjoy crafting high end items.
I've made a nice profit essencing and harvesting bases, usually 1 divine or so in the black. I feel like some people are shy about crafting so it's a good opportunity to make a bit of coin for a casual player like myself.
Dang that's a very specific chest. I was playing cold BV and found the redeemer aura effect was the strongest damage boost mod. Ended up with something like spell crit + additional curse + aura effect. It's also WAY easier to craft being basically deterministic.
Nice chest! I almost made one of those for myself yesterday but filled up my prefixes on the additional curse step and the Yolo Annul hit the suppression, so I think RNGesus is trying to tell me to just go Glass Cannon after all.
I crafted myself a similar chest and the exact same happened to me, except I annulled my T1 spell crit :( tried another 7 times and could only get T2 so gave up and stuck with it and will use my imprint when I farm more. :)
This was about 12.5 Divines but it VERY smooth and lucky. I tried crafting one myself after this that cost about 8 divines and doesn't have the unveiled mod and only -T2 spell crit :(. But it's still a massive upgrade over the crap I had!
Very cool craft. Would be interesting to hear you describe what you would have done if certain steps failed, for example what would you have done if Aisling removed a desirable mod instead?
If aisling removes your extra curse you reforge caster again (since you still have the suff safe on the item) to get it back, craft a new suff safe and aisling again until you hit it
Wished I've had seem this video before making my chest but still think I would prefer mine because I needed the mana reservation of essences and I did it on a non-influenced item so I could get the exarch and eater implicits
Okay I had finally got a comfortable enough amount of divines up to craft something, was going to make a +phys amulet, used 'cannot roll attack mods' on an amulet, went to harvest reforge physical, and it removed the craft (expected) and rolled an attack modifier. But for you it did respect your 'suffixes cannot be changed' - so I'm confused, I thought harvest just didn't respect those anymore, making the change even worse. I guess those crafts are respected? Only some of them?
Ooh...Reforges have always worked that way with Cannot Roll Attack Mods unfortunately :( What you need to do is an Augment Physical for a +2 amulet :( I'm not sure what the order of process is but I think it will reroll suffixes, remove the Cannot Roll Attack Mods and then add the physical mod if you do a reforge phys with prefixes cannot be changed + cannot roll attack mods?
@@Lolcohol I can live with it being a result of my own dumb, then lol. Oh well. Could have sworn it worked before, but probably had been 'suff/pref cannot' instead and I just assumed. Interestingly fossils give an error about 'cannot use this item on an item which has modifiers to its outcome' if you do the same with them, would be nice if harvest had the same warning, but c'est la vie. Thanks for the info and reply!
In previous league i crafted another "god tier" hunter body armor for BV and it was with loathing essence- spam essence until you get spellcrit+supress+essence mod or supress+essence and annul shit suffix for lock and reforge caster. My suffixes was - 10% mana res, t2 spell supr. t1 crit chance(i was fine with t2 supr). After that i lock suffixies and reforge caster for additional curse and did the same. I had good chaos res on my belt(it was 60+% ) Chaos res for its fine suffix,but not the god tier.
I don't know what the heck has been going on but every instance of FFI (Office/Suffix etc) is just removed for me :D Not a single other person I know has had this problem and I don't know how to fix it
Question about the step where you wanna get additional curse. Isnt it better to aug caster since reforge caster could fill up your prefixes and brick the item?
It really does feel far more expensive. I do have a job and it's not a coincidence that I'm doing community crafting this early in league when usually I'd be crafting my own stuff by now :D But I still think it's a little bit of an exaggeration to say that you have to be a full timer to do any crafting at all
@@Lolcohol the full time job line was meant sarcastic. :D :P I pers. was never into crafting bcs for this mater you need a second PhD in POE ^^ .....But after the 3.19 changes I saw that it became even more annoying than before, now it's 100% slot mashine. So either win hard or lose harder, means even more annoying for mortals like me. ;)
That was never gone! The mods that were removed that everyone is upset over were Harvest Reforge keeping suffixes/prefixes which can force you into 50/50 Annuls and potentially brick items if you reforge x and fill up the mods :(
See, this is my biggest issue. I don't think I have the right kind of build that does the type of damage or have the type of life needed to just farm al these currency & bases to craft. I have no idea where on earth to start
I'd check out a good build from a content creator that is tried and tested and then follow a strategy that is also tested! For builds, there's tons of great creators: Subtractem, Palsteron, CrouchingTuna, Pohx, Mathilification, Ghazzy, Zizaran...There are a ton more and I know I'm forgetting some great ones. In terms of strategies, I feel like Palsteron has been really on the ball with providing good strategies lately :) So the trick is to find a good build that functions very cheaply, and then find a fun strategy and just stick to it!
I hope they realize how many steps backwards they are taking by removing reforge keep suff/pre and end up adding them again… This whole harvest+currency change just feels like they are trying to make crafting less accessible to everyone and more RNG, it’s all just starting to feel like lost ark’s honking chances to me.
Its not a step backwards, its a step sideways.. crafting got too easy and was too powerful.. currency was too easy to farm.. knowing what to do, you could basically get near bis full char in under a week.. unpopular opinion but.. I actually prefer this way..
@@kgold01 The problem now is that crafting for a casual is way to expensive now. In standard a 1 prefixes/suffixes cannot be changed would cost you 320 chaos. In league a 1 prefixes/suffixes cannot be changed would cost you 340 chaos. So yeah...
Im guessing they think this is where eldritch implicits/crafting are meant for although the currency is difficult to farm even when its not super expensive. On top of that f if you want to work on something thats not a body, glove, boots or helm
How do you possibly have 0 divines in 5 days?? It means I guess that you are a newer player? So you wouldnt be juicing maps anyway which means... basically no difference for the drops you have been getting... lol
Definitely not, especially not without elevated spell crit and some good divining :( Although I'm not sure what the heck constitutes as mirror tier these days. This is about the next best thing though!
3.21 - GGG: "We removed crafting, It was too powerful, you should try to target find items by identifying them and never forget those precious....talismans..."
crafting is not dead, its just sleeping really stiff because of some back pains, also the larva on it is because its trying this new diet where you lose weight by letting them eat your fat, also also, the bad smell is just the new cologne it bought from amazon...
Unpopular opinion perhaps but.. Im enjoying the league a lot.. Sentinel was just stupidly easy to get everything bis.. It still needs tweaks but I prefer having stuff to work towards rather than drop a few scarabs in map device and boom, instant currency..
Craftings isnt just scarier, crafting is dead for those that dont spend alot of time playing the game. Lost over 100 divine these league on crafting. So much RNG. For me its not worth the time investment.
To your point at 2:11, you were actually correct the first time. We used to not be able to reforge blue items, and then GGG introduced great QoL that allowed us to do that! And then with this new harvest bench, they promptly removed it. If you see in the clip right afterwards it says "reforge a rare item", no mention of magic or normal rarity anymore.
For this reason you actually cannot harvest reforge to reroll flasks anymore either, which is sad.
OH WTF. I didn't even notice! Thanks for pointing that out. When I was editing, I was like "why the heck am I making this rare? We can just do it on magic items now"
This is like me watching a TV cooking show, thinking "oh that doesn't look too bad", then burning the house down boiling the water :D
This perfectly describes me. Every single time I try to craft I end up in another country, covered in mud, being humped by a stray dog and with a huge headache and I have no idea how I got there.
Maybe you ought to stop drinking my friend
lol the amount of luck needed at every step is amazing in this craft.
its going to take 4x more to craft that chest for yourself. he got super lucky
Bump. People need to read this lol
omg my face when fighting Catarina lol. Also, how are you feeling about crafting this league?
It feels about the same as it did when I started in Delirium. Sucks but oh well.
Its exactly more risky to remove something or scary, and pity there is no reforge „mod” more common, but you can now craft it with fossils, so I guess they acually made this crafting, so everything in the game is important to use, Idk if everybody noticed it.
ive been rogging it
Its shit
Without crafting checkpoints it feels terrible. You can use all your knowledge and money to create something unique and specific for a build and if everything fills up everything comes down to annulling...that's not fun.
Essentially killed reasonable influenced awakeners orbs and my drive to craft/play
I'm excited, not only because you're still playing, but also you rerolled to the build I'm playing. I was just in the mid of crafting a really similar chest but without the chaos res, and with crusader's explody (tho I couldn't hit suppress). Keep up the good work!
Nice vid! Debating on going BV myself, so may end up using this process :D
It's so good man! SUPER fun! Check out Chronic Painless's version and you can't go wrong
@@Lolcohol Indeed, after beefing up and switching ot Occultist it just breezesh through maps, idk what to farm with it though. Any suggesitons?
@@botevU I guess any mechanics with a lot of mobs like Legion or Breach?
It's not close to being dead but we already have so many slot maschines in the game. Being susceptable to fill out your mods when you are unlucky and hit one or multiple bad annuls isn't what I would call fun.
Either way, thanks for the video o/
Omg! The game has fail states again! Crafting Dead!
@@burningpipe2627 It very much is for a lot of people cause working 1 week long just for a base, only for RNG to kick you in the ass and losing a +100 Div base is anything *but* fun
@@electricheart7965 Sounds like a you problem tbh. try aiming a little lower instead of acting like you are entitled to a an ideal item just because you feel like you want to put currency in
@@burningpipe2627 ....? That's more like an everyone problem. Just because you don't have the ambitions and skill/knowledge to actually craft doesn't entitle you to be dismissive of the people that can and actually enjoy crafting high end items.
I've made a nice profit essencing and harvesting bases, usually 1 divine or so in the black. I feel like some people are shy about crafting so it's a good opportunity to make a bit of coin for a casual player like myself.
More like 99% dont Craft
Dang that's a very specific chest. I was playing cold BV and found the redeemer aura effect was the strongest damage boost mod. Ended up with something like spell crit + additional curse + aura effect. It's also WAY easier to craft being basically deterministic.
Yeah, but then you have no way of forcing spell suppression on the chest, so it kinda depends on what you want.
Ty hunter for having the two best chest mods in one influence
Wow you got unbelievably lucky with that craft! good job!
Nice chest! I almost made one of those for myself yesterday but filled up my prefixes on the additional curse step and the Yolo Annul hit the suppression, so I think RNGesus is trying to tell me to just go Glass Cannon after all.
I crafted myself a similar chest and the exact same happened to me, except I annulled my T1 spell crit :( tried another 7 times and could only get T2 so gave up and stuck with it and will use my imprint when I farm more. :)
How much did the chest cost in total? I am also playing BV and will definitely be looking to craft this.
go through and look at the amount of currency he spent..
This was about 12.5 Divines but it VERY smooth and lucky. I tried crafting one myself after this that cost about 8 divines and doesn't have the unveiled mod and only -T2 spell crit :(. But it's still a massive upgrade over the crap I had!
Bv without explody chest is sadge
@@jeremiahluck327 Thats why you convert to lightning and use inpulsa :) Loved that last league
@@patrikmach514 crusader explody chest all day :P I went all in on cold bv last league, I'm hoping to try out fire out in this league
Thank you for this video, I somehow hit t1 ele resist on the suffix when I reforge caster for additional curse. Very nice craft.
Nicely done! That's a really great final suffix
3:33 could you try to elevate crit if you hit chaos pref? And then if you dont, just ref crit again. Or i am missing something?
You could absolutely, yeah :)
You are absolutely amazing. Spectacular !
Haha thanks, Orc
Very cool craft. Would be interesting to hear you describe what you would have done if certain steps failed, for example what would you have done if Aisling removed a desirable mod instead?
If aisling removes your extra curse you reforge caster again (since you still have the suff safe on the item) to get it back, craft a new suff safe and aisling again until you hit it
Nice job Lolcohol! I'm glad the state of POE didn't destroy your channel, stay strong!
Thank you! Doing community crafting is actually great :) I don't have to farm as hard and it eases a lot of pressure!
can you do a video about explode chest+aura effect+t1 supress?
Thanks for this Lolcohol sir!
Wished I've had seem this video before making my chest but still think I would prefer mine because I needed the mana reservation of essences and I did it on a non-influenced item so I could get the exarch and eater implicits
Was waiting for the maven orb for get elevated spell crit for extra gambling spice!
Nice work on the video!
Okay I had finally got a comfortable enough amount of divines up to craft something, was going to make a +phys amulet, used 'cannot roll attack mods' on an amulet, went to harvest reforge physical, and it removed the craft (expected) and rolled an attack modifier. But for you it did respect your 'suffixes cannot be changed' - so I'm confused, I thought harvest just didn't respect those anymore, making the change even worse. I guess those crafts are respected? Only some of them?
Ooh...Reforges have always worked that way with Cannot Roll Attack Mods unfortunately :( What you need to do is an Augment Physical for a +2 amulet :( I'm not sure what the order of process is but I think it will reroll suffixes, remove the Cannot Roll Attack Mods and then add the physical mod if you do a reforge phys with prefixes cannot be changed + cannot roll attack mods?
@@Lolcohol I can live with it being a result of my own dumb, then lol. Oh well. Could have sworn it worked before, but probably had been 'suff/pref cannot' instead and I just assumed. Interestingly fossils give an error about 'cannot use this item on an item which has modifiers to its outcome' if you do the same with them, would be nice if harvest had the same warning, but c'est la vie. Thanks for the info and reply!
Hey. I have found a +1 all spell skill gems fractured sceptre. How would I go about crafting it for a MoM Miner?
In previous league i crafted another "god tier" hunter body armor for BV and it was with loathing essence- spam essence until you get spellcrit+supress+essence mod or supress+essence and annul shit suffix for lock and reforge caster. My suffixes was - 10% mana res, t2 spell supr. t1 crit chance(i was fine with t2 supr). After that i lock suffixies and reforge caster for additional curse and did the same.
I had good chaos res on my belt(it was 60+% )
Chaos res for its fine suffix,but not the god tier.
That sounds like a killer chest :o I could do with more reservation
i need answers, i've seen "ffi" in suffix "censored" i guess many many times, what the hell is that?
I don't know what the heck has been going on but every instance of FFI (Office/Suffix etc) is just removed for me :D Not a single other person I know has had this problem and I don't know how to fix it
That is hella weird, is it a problem only in poe? if it's outside of it aswell that has to be so annoying
@@bob27777 Yeah just in PoE! Super strange :D
You should share how much you spent x how much is worth
Isn’t better to imprint or split?
Question about the step where you wanna get additional curse. Isnt it better to aug caster since reforge caster could fill up your prefixes and brick the item?
Ignore my last response -- you can only do Augments on non-influenced items :(
@@Lolcohol Oh right, I'm stupid
you could of tried to elevate the crit when you also hit the phys to chaos prefix ^^
I cant be the only one that enjoys more watching Lolcohols craft videos then play the game in its actual state.
Haha I think that's the case for a lot of folks. Glad you're enjoying watching even if you're not enjoying playing :)
It's not dead, it just became more annoying for 90% of the playerbase and is now only a thing for those who play POE as theyr job. ;)
It really does feel far more expensive. I do have a job and it's not a coincidence that I'm doing community crafting this early in league when usually I'd be crafting my own stuff by now :D But I still think it's a little bit of an exaggeration to say that you have to be a full timer to do any crafting at all
@@Lolcohol the full time job line was meant sarcastic. :D :P
I pers. was never into crafting bcs for this mater you need a second PhD in POE ^^ .....But after the 3.19 changes I saw that it became even more annoying than before, now it's 100% slot mashine.
So either win hard or lose harder, means even more annoying for mortals like me. ;)
Great video! Really debating between chaos BV Trickster or a Cold BV Witch.
Thanks! I'm doing the Witch and it has been great so can recommend that one, 10/10 :D
They added back suffixes cannot be changed?
That was never gone! The mods that were removed that everyone is upset over were Harvest Reforge keeping suffixes/prefixes which can force you into 50/50 Annuls and potentially brick items if you reforge x and fill up the mods :(
This chest could have been safely maven orbed too if you slammed after failed chaos reforge. Great vid tho, smoothest craft this league.
Ah you're right!! And they're so cheap now. Damn, I should've gone for that, but perhaps that would've been tempting the rng God's hand too much :D
@@Lolcohol Yeah, you were insanely lucky on this one.
See, this is my biggest issue. I don't think I have the right kind of build that does the type of damage or have the type of life needed to just farm al these currency & bases to craft. I have no idea where on earth to start
I'd check out a good build from a content creator that is tried and tested and then follow a strategy that is also tested! For builds, there's tons of great creators: Subtractem, Palsteron, CrouchingTuna, Pohx, Mathilification, Ghazzy, Zizaran...There are a ton more and I know I'm forgetting some great ones.
In terms of strategies, I feel like Palsteron has been really on the ball with providing good strategies lately :) So the trick is to find a good build that functions very cheaply, and then find a fun strategy and just stick to it!
I hope they realize how many steps backwards they are taking by removing reforge keep suff/pre and end up adding them again…
This whole harvest+currency change just feels like they are trying to make crafting less accessible to everyone and more RNG, it’s all just starting to feel like lost ark’s honking chances to me.
Its not a step backwards, its a step sideways.. crafting got too easy and was too powerful.. currency was too easy to farm.. knowing what to do, you could basically get near bis full char in under a week.. unpopular opinion but.. I actually prefer this way..
@@kgold01
The problem now is that crafting for a casual is way to expensive now.
In standard a 1 prefixes/suffixes cannot be changed would cost you 320 chaos.
In league a 1 prefixes/suffixes cannot be changed would cost you 340 chaos.
So yeah...
Im guessing they think this is where eldritch implicits/crafting are meant for although the currency is difficult to farm even when its not super expensive. On top of that f if you want to work on something thats not a body, glove, boots or helm
Crafting is dead to us mere mortals with 0 divines after 5 days of playing.
How do you possibly have 0 divines in 5 days?? It means I guess that you are a newer player? So you wouldnt be juicing maps anyway which means... basically no difference for the drops you have been getting... lol
@@kgold01 not dropping any. Trade is also dead on ps so no-ones buying anything.
@@HvnkRockCity oh ps... well yea, cant comment have played pc forever and trade over these ways is alive and kicking
2:33 suffixes missing F's
Is mirror tier chest? Btw I don't know if is true, but maybe they made easier get T1.
I'm seeing a lot of people hitting T1 this league
Definitely not, especially not without elevated spell crit and some good divining :( Although I'm not sure what the heck constitutes as mirror tier these days. This is about the next best thing though!
Why f on suffixes is black?
I don't know lol. Just a weird bug that won't go away
I thought a split item means u cant craft on it?
You can! It just means you can't split it again :)
i wish my grandfather played poe too.
Lolcohol: "Crafting isn't dead, we just need to use something else."
3.20 - GGG: "We removed the something else."
3.21 - GGG: "We removed crafting, It was too powerful, you should try to target find items by identifying them and never forget those precious....talismans..."
I would think the Exarch/Eater implicits would be more powerful than a single spell crit mod.
additional curse is also from influence. And that is a powerful mod which you can't get from Eldritch Influence.
You Deserve a Sub Sir!! o7
Thank you! :)
Chest is so dirty I'd be embarrassed if my wife caught me looking at it- well done sir!
I swear self-farmed aislings always hit ^^
Where is the explodee
Herald of Ice :)
Please do a explody chest video for BV
Elevated Inc effect of non aura curse and elevated explode mod then awakener orb together on sacrificial garb base
how is what...
Explode where ?
Herald of Ice
@@Lolcohol Seems reasonable
RF gear crafts please Lol, I beg.
All they did was push crafting even further out of reach for most players.
Crafting isnt dead...yeah Well if every attempt is a week of grinding then we can say it's pretty dead
That was quite easy, if only it helped my Flicker Strike idiot to do stuff.
XD explode chest better than this. Can you try crafting this chest xD
Who needs explode when you have herald of ice :3
Explode best node.
crafting is not dead, its just sleeping really stiff because of some back pains, also the larva on it is because its trying this new diet where you lose weight by letting them eat your fat, also also, the bad smell is just the new cologne it bought from amazon...
Well, i tried your crafting method....... Let's just say i should become a streamer -,-
They don't make things simple stupid do they? FML. All the processes are so confusing😅😂
Unpopular opinion perhaps but.. Im enjoying the league a lot.. Sentinel was just stupidly easy to get everything bis.. It still needs tweaks but I prefer having stuff to work towards rather than drop a few scarabs in map device and boom, instant currency..
Crafting is dead. That’s what every streamer and Reddit told me. So it has to be true.
All the tier 1 rolls, lol.
Craftings isnt just scarier, crafting is dead for those that dont spend alot of time playing the game.
Lost over 100 divine these league on crafting. So much RNG.
For me its not worth the time investment.
Yeah just get lucky i guess
But crafting mirror tier shit is the problem and is dead 😂
Crafting high end gear IS dead; at best you're doing educated gambles i.e. Texas Hold 'Em or Blackjack.