I absolutely love being confirmed how gimped the crafting has become after the reforge keep suff/prefix has been removed. This is painchamp, well done man! Great to see that the vids are not completely filled with a lucky hit and then calling it gg :)
I cannot understand how Cris Wilson thinks this "RNG craft" is a "cool thing" for the game... Totally painfull. Ty for your patience on make it, Mr. Lolcohol.
horror film? I sleep Lolcohol crafting niche items? heart racing with this video I've learned what local mods are and understood how people gets 100% crit chance that "easily". I vouch for more videos!
Dude, you've got some patience on you! I felt every bit of unedited pain you went through. Reminds me of that mirror woke orb you hit on the body armour in Archnemesis. You used up all your luck there :D. However, I'm still jealous of the annuls you hit man. Obnoxious lol.
7:14 coulda locked suffixes and scoured the prefix instead of going for a 60%er. depends on price of essences, but I hate taking chance and time if it fails.
Ive always wondered. Why are the 2 "f" in the crafted Suffixes cannot be changed not shown on his item when he crafts that mod? When I craft that mod the 2 F's show.
I know it's annoying, but especially with this caliber of craft, wild bristle matrons probably would've saved tens of divines. Thanks for the content and thanks to Mattie!
It definitely would've! But it also would've added an hour or two to the craft :( doing that many trips back and forth to the menagerie and trading makes what usually takes 5 seconds instead take 60 :( but yeah, it definitely would've saved a bit!
Pretty nuts, did your method with the loathing essences, hit area in like 20 essences along with a elder multistrike/17-19% attack speed mod. Wild bristle matron, reforge fire and got the fire dmg per str on first reforge and it was a lone prefix. I was gonna go for the Aisling but didnt want to risk going through what you went through so I crafted Suffixes cannot be changed and it sold for 60 div within like 5 mins. I figure I set the other person up for a 50/50 shot to get 100-150+ divines on aisling and I made out without any further risk. Happy either way hope he got a baller aisling. Very lucky though!
Damn you got lucky! Nicely done. Yeah going for that Aisling after everything else is just nuts. If I were doing it for myself, I'd have done the same as you 😅
For the prefixes, you can suffixes cannot be changed aug fire once you have the flat fire mod, its 50/50 to hit, then you can try to annul or keep the flat fire if its high tier. Seems less risky and faster than what you did.
hey there, great work there. just a minor question, what if your 2nd aisling didnt hit that unwanted mod but instead hit crafted mod, what would you do in that situation ?
hello there I'm a new Poe player plz can u explain how did u put. a weapon on top of another like how did u combine theme if it's right to call it combine !!!!!😮
Craft should be hybrid spell dmg/non-chaos as extra chaos, btw. Cool that there are finally maces with both mods being crafted. I made one a week or two back, but just went awakener orba couple of times till I got decent other mods, including unveiled pen.
That would be a pain to code as an item can be modified to hell and back, the database should be absolutely erfect or people would riot as "this item was reforged 255 times not 254!" and also you'd need a way to trully qualify currency, putting a hard value on it and transforming it from a "trade game" to a "gold game" where gold are the divines, exalts are silver, chaos are copper and mirrors are memes.
its not. he is crafting it on request with the currency of a viewer for the viewer. his payment is the content / the video :) the one he is crafting for wants to use it so its not being crafted to make profit
Pen isn't useless since it comes after the effective res calculation. Since there are no other sources of chaos pen besides a single 7% on the tree, it's a very powerful multiplier Keep in mind original sin sets res to 0, it doesn't "ignore res" like the inquisitor ascendancy, otherwise it would have indeed been useless.
Why not just awakeners orb "aoe per 50 str" + "socketed support crit strike chance 20" together hope for open suffix, lock suffix reforge speed for the suffix part? ive done this with mine a while back and got level 20 multistrike with it. spent around 8-12 div for the whole craft(no fire dmg per str doe because ring to expensive)?
Their chaos res is 0 but you can still penetrate it, resulting in effective negative res on the enemies when calculating damage. Stuff like curses that reduce enemy resistance would not have any effect, as their res is set to 0
Would exalt slamming with suffixes cannot be changed for that 2-4 fire damage per strength been safer and possibly cheaper because you wouldn’t have risked losing the suffixes?
I think, on the attempt the weapon only got 3 mod left which is 2 strength stacking mod and the attack speed t1 you can do suffix can not be changed and then go aug + remove crit to hope you win the 50/50 and get crit chance instead of yolo exalt slam
wouldnt the aisling be possible and more efficient if you crafted multimod and suffix block? since u had only 1 prefix, idk maybe i'm stupid and dont know if multimod is a suffix, then nvm
Wouldn't Remove Add Influence (6%) be a better way to get the strength stacking prefix? At least like that you`re never risking the Suffixes, which seemed to be quite painful. Seems like could potentially be cheaper as well.
I checked the odds and think it's a 200 weight out of a pool of 4500 or something, so it's a similar 1/20ish but a lot more expensive :( but good thinking! Edit: oops I thought you said reforge influence - yeah, add remove influence is gone :(
You can't double aisling items. So if he uses aisling on suffix, that means he has to finish prefix some other (likely much more expensive) way. I will also add that if you aisling the last suffix you can't block anything because all suffixes are full. So the chances you get veiled crit are super low. He'd have to try and annul the aisling every single time he misses it and brick the item and be forced to start from the beginning every time the annul failed. And even if he successfully annuled the aisling mod, it would cost 5-6 div per attempt to reroll crit instead of 2 div per attempt to reroll crit.
@@Lolcohol actually super crude and not something I would do with a boom scepter, i would awakener's orb a ton of maces, and see what I hit and work from there. Sure it seems primitive but it is working strat for me for profit crafting. If I were to use a boom mace then I would follow your suffix strat but then use double ex slamming with a crafted blocked prefix.
I wonder if a "spell damage per 16 strength' + 'flat fire damage per 10 strength' synth base would have been better. Opens up Strength and Crit Multi for the suffixes and flat chaos damage for the prefix. The 3% AoE mod from elder is pure bait. I swapped from an elder Boom Mace with that mod to a Synth base and it feels hardly any different clearspeed wise.
Hey man have you heard what's going on with the RMTing in TFT?? I'm still a noob at crafting and I only used TFT for a very few projects and bulk buys, i'm not sure what to think about it. If you know what's going on, can you tell us if we're safe using TFT now? I don't want to be associated with a third party that breaches ToS!!! If we're fine then i'll just continue to play the same way and enjoy the rest of the league. Thank you !!!
You're fine to keep using it. None of the allegations brought forward have provided any hard evidence and if evidence does appear, just being on the server won't mean you'll be accused of RMTing
lolcohol is probably just a bit lazy to do this but for others you can use the harvest beast meta craft to guarantee suffixes cannot be changed as long as you have full suffixes.
Yup! Wild Bristle Matron would've saved currency but it would've made the craft take about 5x as long and I don't have that much time to record a single video :( Even though it saves currency, the amount of time saved by not doing it could be spent farming! :D
I like how you are constantly typing in "fire" in the horti station although reforege fire is literally the first craft in the list :D also, wouldnt a veiled chaos orb do a better job of getting a good crit mod instead of reforge crit? or are the numbers of the veiled mods too low? EDIT: you realised its at the top like a second after I posted... -.- :D EDIT 2: why no multimod + suffix lock before aisling?
Crafted that weapon on Haste league. Was combining area and flat damage mod with awakened orb and then hope for decent suff and veiled mod. Bad results was sold for profit or even. Was very cheap craft after all. No so perfect, but VERY cheap.
I saw that oh suffixes are already done, maybe this is will be one of those short easy crafts. Then, video has lasted over 4min but there is like 30min left... Not going to be easy 😅 Edit: this is painful to watch
I know this is an old video but I am so offended and annoyed at people doing slayer boom maces even now that run crit chance - you cannot take advantage of the crit chance in ANY WAY when you take the 8% base crit node. Crit chance does not affect u.
I think the game should track how much currency you use crafting an item and after spending an predetermined amount of currency it will remove a low tier for the roll chance. So eventually after spending enough currency the item would only roll tier 1 mods.
I think it would’ve been a LOT cheaper if you started with deafening essences of loathing, you’d have essence tier crit chance and could aim for T2 speed easily (1/5) as opposed to the 1/12 to hit T2 crit chance starting with zeals. Especially since suffixes could brick while reforging like you already experienced 🥲
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After seeing how many divines were deleted in the making of this video, the outro "DIVINE PAWAH" made a lasting impression for me.
After so many of these crafts I'm puzzled how Lolcohol is still sane.
I absolutely love being confirmed how gimped the crafting has become after the reforge keep suff/prefix has been removed. This is painchamp, well done man! Great to see that the vids are not completely filled with a lucky hit and then calling it gg :)
Even after all that suffering and pain, you still managed to smile and say "this was a fun craft" at the end. Kudos to you sir!
This was a really cool (but also painful) craft to see - nicely done!
I cannot understand how Cris Wilson thinks this "RNG craft" is a "cool thing" for the game... Totally painfull. Ty for your patience on make it, Mr. Lolcohol.
Ever since strolling by a gym, Lolcohol felt the need to gear up in strength.
horror film? I sleep
Lolcohol crafting niche items? heart racing
with this video I've learned what local mods are and understood how people gets 100% crit chance that "easily". I vouch for more videos!
Not really niche to be honest
Invaluable video, thanks!
When our sanity leaves us, we all start to sound like Slippery Jim
This is so accurate lmao
When you get 3 pref and 2 suff without crit, you can do pref to suff from Eihnar and have some chance to get back crit. Beasts is 20c
Dude, you've got some patience on you! I felt every bit of unedited pain you went through. Reminds me of that mirror woke orb you hit on the body armour in Archnemesis. You used up all your luck there :D. However, I'm still jealous of the annuls you hit man. Obnoxious lol.
The legitimate pain behind every "And we failed"
7:14 coulda locked suffixes and scoured the prefix instead of going for a 60%er. depends on price of essences, but I hate taking chance and time if it fails.
Much respect as same fellow craftman
There was more currency used in this video than i will ever have in my entire life
Ive always wondered. Why are the 2 "f" in the crafted Suffixes cannot be changed not shown on his item when he crafts that mod? When I craft that mod the 2 F's show.
He installed some text pack for making a thumbnail and then it ended up squishing the fs together
I will start reminding you in every video now to not forget to use gilded fossils
wow that was painful to watch - glad you made it!
I know it's annoying, but especially with this caliber of craft, wild bristle matrons probably would've saved tens of divines. Thanks for the content and thanks to Mattie!
It definitely would've! But it also would've added an hour or two to the craft :( doing that many trips back and forth to the menagerie and trading makes what usually takes 5 seconds instead take 60 :( but yeah, it definitely would've saved a bit!
Pretty nuts, did your method with the loathing essences, hit area in like 20 essences along with a elder multistrike/17-19% attack speed mod. Wild bristle matron, reforge fire and got the fire dmg per str on first reforge and it was a lone prefix. I was gonna go for the Aisling but didnt want to risk going through what you went through so I crafted Suffixes cannot be changed and it sold for 60 div within like 5 mins. I figure I set the other person up for a 50/50 shot to get 100-150+ divines on aisling and I made out without any further risk. Happy either way hope he got a baller aisling. Very lucky though!
Damn you got lucky! Nicely done. Yeah going for that Aisling after everything else is just nuts. If I were doing it for myself, I'd have done the same as you 😅
The game feels so wrong without the reforge keep. It's brutal
lolcohol annuls on point
For the prefixes, you can suffixes cannot be changed aug fire once you have the flat fire mod, its 50/50 to hit, then you can try to annul or keep the flat fire if its high tier. Seems less risky and faster than what you did.
Sadly you can't use Augs on influenced items anymore :(
I am not sure but at 24:52 is it better to augment crit?
Asking cuz i didnt play last 2 leagues..
Not possible anymore.
augments dont exist anymore.
its now remove and aug
@@Imbapiranha Oh ok
And you can only use it on non-influenced items :(
@@Lolcohol Crafting should be fun and rewarding like before 😏
you say "im starting to sound like jim" as im in call with jim watching this video lol
Lucky! I hope he's doing well :)
hey there, great work there. just a minor question, what if your 2nd aisling didnt hit that unwanted mod but instead hit crafted mod, what would you do in that situation ?
Well, that was brutal
i wished the would add keep pre/suffix make it cost like 10k juice or something. my heart can only take so much pain.
That was brutal exile.
Could you make a video about crafting glove, helmet, or boots for Omi ward build?
every single click hit me right into my soul
hello there I'm a new Poe player plz can u explain how did u put. a weapon on top of another like how did u combine theme if it's right to call it combine !!!!!😮
Hi there, I wonder why not block "Family: NonChaosAddedAsChaos" before vailing, it has a bigger chance to block the useless mods
couldn't you do imprint before doing the 1st aisling? or it wont work
Really nice guide, burned already 1200 divines didnt Hit aisling once always removed the Mod i would keep done with the League cuz broke
Craft should be hybrid spell dmg/non-chaos as extra chaos, btw. Cool that there are finally maces with both mods being crafted. I made one a week or two back, but just went awakener orba couple of times till I got decent other mods, including unveiled pen.
That would be a pain to code as an item can be modified to hell and back, the database should be absolutely erfect or people would riot as "this item was reforged 255 times not 254!" and also you'd need a way to trully qualify currency, putting a hard value on it and transforming it from a "trade game" to a "gold game" where gold are the divines, exalts are silver, chaos are copper and mirrors are memes.
@@eldoctoroso What are you even replying to?
Hello, every time I had question about- where do you find those crafts? How did you now that someone will use it?
can you tell us what the profit it is at the end? we see you use alot of mats, would love to know what your getting paid!
its not. he is crafting it on request with the currency of a viewer for the viewer. his payment is the content / the video :)
the one he is crafting for wants to use it so its not being crafted to make profit
20:12 I was wondering how long it would take you to notice that reforge fire was at the top and you didn't need to type anything LOL
Way too long lol
Why need attack speed on a shock wave build?
24:47 why dont you block suffixes|augment crit?
Sadly you cannot augment on influenced items anymore :(
@@Lolcohol Sadge
22:05 dang bro didn't slam it once for the 1/256?
Did you even watch the video?
@@Lolcohol Yes. I watched the entire thing.
since the build uses alberon, and ur using add fire dmg per 10 strenght means ur using original sin ring, then isnt chaos pen useless?
Def using original sin
Pen isn't useless since it comes after the effective res calculation. Since there are no other sources of chaos pen besides a single 7% on the tree, it's a very powerful multiplier
Keep in mind original sin sets res to 0, it doesn't "ignore res" like the inquisitor ascendancy, otherwise it would have indeed been useless.
man that was one tough craft!
Not every day you see a 200 div craft.
Why No Price Check?
There's only two offline for 150 and they haven't been online for ages :(
Cant you orb of dominance weapons?
You can't! I actually addressed that but decided to cut out that section since the video was already so long. Good thinking though
Nice Aisling clutch
Why not just awakeners orb "aoe per 50 str" + "socketed support crit strike chance 20" together hope for open suffix, lock suffix reforge speed for the suffix part? ive done this with mine a while back and got level 20 multistrike with it. spent around 8-12 div for the whole craft(no fire dmg per str doe because ring to expensive)?
doesn't original sin set chaos res to 0 so pen does nothing?
Their chaos res is 0 but you can still penetrate it, resulting in effective negative res on the enemies when calculating damage. Stuff like curses that reduce enemy resistance would not have any effect, as their res is set to 0
@@katjang7201 oh! okay, so it's like the situation with the power charge shield and the charge boots, got it
why didn t u just reforge keeping the sufix harvest craft to empty the prefixes
They removed it from the game :)
Man how do you get that many divs? I only had one drop this league
Would exalt slamming with suffixes cannot be changed for that 2-4 fire damage per strength been safer and possibly cheaper because you wouldn’t have risked losing the suffixes?
1/250 is also using the bench to keep suffix 125 times meaning avg 250 exalts plus 250 divines
I definitely learned something... six linking is eeeeeeaaaaasssssssyyyyyy breeeeeaaassssyyyyy
of you multimod and then put of suffixes cannot be changed will it still be able to fill prefixes?
can't multimod since its a suffix
I think, on the attempt the weapon only got 3 mod left which is 2 strength stacking mod and the attack speed t1 you can do suffix can not be changed and then go aug + remove crit to hope you win the 50/50 and get crit chance instead of yolo exalt slam
You can’t augment influenced items
@@jordanlobo4680 oh ty i nearly forgot that mb then
pain. Is it ok meta to brutedorcing right modes with tonns of currency? Seems like no skill, just spam
wouldnt the aisling be possible and more efficient if you crafted multimod and suffix block? since u had only 1 prefix, idk maybe i'm stupid and dont know if multimod is a suffix, then nvm
multi is a suffix sadly
Im in physical pain watching this, omg
This is my BOOM STICK!!!
That mace prolly worth more than 200 div, its filthy
Here’s to hoping crafting is less terrifying in PoE2 😅
just hope they balance around ssf and let trade die and the crafting will become WAAAAY better for the average player...
Dude, you got really strong mental :D
show this to GGG so they dont think we craft these amazing gear with 4 chaos and 3 exalts
Wouldn't Remove Add Influence (6%) be a better way to get the strength stacking prefix? At least like that you`re never risking the Suffixes, which seemed to be quite painful. Seems like could potentially be cheaper as well.
isnt it 2% I think you are forgetting elder influence mods
+ /- influenced mods craft has been removed from harvest this league. Guess you didn’t know 😅
I checked the odds and think it's a 200 weight out of a pool of 4500 or something, so it's a similar 1/20ish but a lot more expensive :( but good thinking!
Edit: oops I thought you said reforge influence - yeah, add remove influence is gone :(
NGL - enjoyed watching you suffer through this.
If u r not going for t1 crit, why not go for the veil crit with strength?
You can't double aisling items. So if he uses aisling on suffix, that means he has to finish prefix some other (likely much more expensive) way.
I will also add that if you aisling the last suffix you can't block anything because all suffixes are full. So the chances you get veiled crit are super low. He'd have to try and annul the aisling every single time he misses it and brick the item and be forced to start from the beginning every time the annul failed.
And even if he successfully annuled the aisling mod, it would cost 5-6 div per attempt to reroll crit instead of 2 div per attempt to reroll crit.
I know I'm watching this way late, but why did u not imprint any of this.
You can't imprint rare items or influenced items :(
To be honest I actually theory crafted this build and this weapon a week ago or something like that.
Was your method similar? :)
@@Lolcohol actually super crude and not something I would do with a boom scepter, i would awakener's orb a ton of maces, and see what I hit and work from there. Sure it seems primitive but it is working strat for me for profit crafting.
If I were to use a boom mace then I would follow your suffix strat but then use double ex slamming with a crafted blocked prefix.
Going to try this in SSF... Will be back in around 100 Years when i collected all the Curency :-D :-D Stay tuned^^
I wonder if a "spell damage per 16 strength' + 'flat fire damage per 10 strength' synth base would have been better.
Opens up Strength and Crit Multi for the suffixes and flat chaos damage for the prefix.
The 3% AoE mod from elder is pure bait. I swapped from an elder Boom Mace with that mod to a Synth base and it feels hardly any different clearspeed wise.
This just isn’t true… you must not have over 2k Str
Hoooows it lolcohol
Great vid, very expensive craft. It hurts to watch
This video called me poor in every language on Earth.
they go for 150 divs no attackspeed. so i guess if he sels it he still does money on it
we want reforge keep pref/suff GGG, please.
Crafting in this game is such a meme
Hey man have you heard what's going on with the RMTing in TFT?? I'm still a noob at crafting and I only used TFT for a very few projects and bulk buys, i'm not sure what to think about it.
If you know what's going on, can you tell us if we're safe using TFT now? I don't want to be associated with a third party that breaches ToS!!! If we're fine then i'll just continue to play the same way and enjoy the rest of the league. Thank you !!!
You're fine to keep using it. None of the allegations brought forward have provided any hard evidence and if evidence does appear, just being on the server won't mean you'll be accused of RMTing
@@Lolcohol thanks!!!
singing lolcohol.
lolcohol is probably just a bit lazy to do this but for others you can use the harvest beast meta craft to guarantee suffixes cannot be changed as long as you have full suffixes.
Yup! Wild Bristle Matron would've saved currency but it would've made the craft take about 5x as long and I don't have that much time to record a single video :( Even though it saves currency, the amount of time saved by not doing it could be spent farming! :D
This craft was so cursed
I like how you are constantly typing in "fire" in the horti station although reforege fire is literally the first craft in the list :D also, wouldnt a veiled chaos orb do a better job of getting a good crit mod instead of reforge crit? or are the numbers of the veiled mods too low?
EDIT: you realised its at the top like a second after I posted... -.- :D
EDIT 2: why no multimod + suffix lock before aisling?
can't multimod since thats a suffix and suffixes were full at that point
@@jackdigout539 oooh right...I am le smart again...thanks^^
now vaal it :)
what the fuck is with the annul luck in this video lmao
It was wild. Everything else was pain but the annuls were on point
16:40 What to do? Sell it and use a new base bro.
No one is buying items like this, this late into the league. It'll probably rot.
@@Lolcohol Fair enough.
This looks like an awful experience I've never liked crafting in poe but I do like seeing what people do to try and work around it really cool
lol you are buying essences from the same guy i do when i craft :D
Painchamp
lmao rolled over the fire to attacks mod + aoe when essence spamming
Crafted that weapon on Haste league.
Was combining area and flat damage mod with awakened orb and then hope for decent suff and veiled mod.
Bad results was sold for profit or even.
Was very cheap craft after all. No so perfect, but VERY cheap.
I saw that oh suffixes are already done, maybe this is will be one of those short easy crafts. Then, video has lasted over 4min but there is like 30min left... Not going to be easy 😅
Edit: this is painful to watch
I know this is an old video but I am so offended and annoyed at people doing slayer boom maces even now that run crit chance - you cannot take advantage of the crit chance in ANY WAY when you take the 8% base crit node. Crit chance does not affect u.
I think the game should track how much currency you use crafting an item and after spending an predetermined amount of currency it will remove a low tier for the roll chance. So eventually after spending enough currency the item would only roll tier 1 mods.
REAL pain in ass
🎉
Lmfao this scepter
I think it would’ve been a LOT cheaper if you started with deafening essences of loathing, you’d have essence tier crit chance and could aim for T2 speed easily (1/5) as opposed to the 1/12 to hit T2 crit chance starting with zeals. Especially since suffixes could brick while reforging like you already experienced 🥲
Yeah! After we swapped to loathing we both realised we should've started there D: pain!
nois
it suck that u have to spend that much why poe crafting is this hard why dont they just make easyer so people have more fun
wow as poe casual i cant even make 500c in a league hahaha