Edit: Finally put in a lift, took plenty of cutting in the front and rear, and a spring compressor. Thanks for your videos, inspiration + instructions since Toytec didn't provide any.
@@PhoRunner I've been checking out a lot of your videos and just got Bilstein 5100s and OME springs front and rear (881 + 890 rear). I haven't installed but I'm hoping this setup will work without a ton of premature wear on other parts >< I wanted something a bit stiffer in the rear to carry my dirtbike around, I hope I didn't do something stupid haha
doin mine here soon waiting on my order to come from Compton. im up in British Columbia so takes a bit. got oldman all around. checked out your vid to see what i was up against. thanks for sharing dude
No worries! Easy job. The skids may not go back on easy and hopefully you got spacers and longer bolts in your kit. Mine was a little more challenging!
Industrial Metal Supply (L.A. Sunland, Orange County? Sand Diego, Phoenix & Tucson) has bins of aluminum cut offs and rod stock. You could probably get some of the smaller spacers by getting something from the bin and then hack-sawing to the proper length and drilling it. No clue as to hardness spec, but it doesn't look critical, at least for the skidguard. Thanks for making videos during the quarantine. Maybe I spent too many years teaching middle school but my first thought was, "Man, governor Newsom just grounded ALL of us." (btw There's no statute of limitations for being a rotten kid--sooner or later they catch up to you. Me? I had to teach middle school for ten years. Not one second of that time was the irony of my situation not readily apparent.)
My longer bolt seems fine. Not really sure those spacers are needed. The metal is thin and can bend a little so I made it work. It might be more for aftermarket skids
Hi nice video , I have a quick question for what reason you put those dif spacer , must be when the truck was lifting ?? . I'm new in this and started my project on my 4runner 3rd gen . Thanks
I’ve got my coilovers cranked way up and my cv’s are at a ridiculous angle. I’m gonna do this and use longer bolts and bigger spacers and see what happens
I don’t think it affects the back at all and really the diff drop just leans the front down. Im not convinced it really helps lol. Extended boot or 2.5” max lift is the way to go
I have 3" bilstein lift with Camburg uca's. Do you think differential drop kit is needed? Reason I ask is bc I took them off to fit trd skid plate I just purchased/installed.
I'm looking into buying a 3rd gen 4runner is adding this diff drop kit also 3 inch lift plus change to manual hubs doing same thing what you have done also 3rd gen owners too. I found a 3rd gen for a grand condition in great shape few blem spots but frame is in great condition in rust belt region. My overall question with these done are 3rd gen 4 runners decent rigs towing cars?
Should you only install these if you have a 4x4? I just got a 4runner sr5 base model no 4x4. I’m planning on lifting it but need some info on what to get.
@@PhoRunner good to know, I already have the drop kit so I’ll probably still install it but I have a heavy duty set of axels in swapping in today. I’ll reboot the old ones too tho just for some spares. Thanks!
awesome videos you are making on this 3rd gen 4runner. I recently bought one for a very cheap price but with bad engine. I am currently overhauling my engine at this moment and I cant wait to get it running. Can you do a valve adjustment videos?
Hey bro did you ever check the space on back bottom of the diff mine was about to touch or rubb the frame like 1/8 to get to rub so I removed my 1in spacers after that esue. I didn't feel confident of leaving it like that's . anyway good luck happy holidays
Hi brother maybe you can help me I have a 2.5 rough country lift with no DEF spacers for some reason my driver side axle keeps on getting mess up did you ever have any problems with yours and did your spacers help
A little off topic here but is there a master kit I can purchase to get manual locking hubs for the 3rd gen? I heard of people getting it off a 1st gen taco but that thing is so damn rare to find. How did you get yours?
Great video as usual, Do you think in your opinion that this mod is worth doing vs. the questionable topic about the pinion bearing not getting enough lubrication ?
I've considered doing a 2" lift on my '01 4runner. Do you think it's worth doing the CV axel inner boot mod? What about in addition to the diff drop? Great channel btw.
I have a 3rd Gen 4runner that is going through boots about every oil change. I found your video to educate myself on the front diff drop. Because a local shop wants to charge me 1500.00 to correct that issue. I can see that my 4runner already has the drop kit (done by previous owner) however, I'm still going through boots. After your diff drop, did you notice going to CV boots?
None oddly. I’ve had 2 different sets of cv now and never really an issue. My old one (before manual hubs) leaked a tiny bit. What cv axles are you using? Try napa ones. I hear they are better.
@@PhoRunner thank you for the reply! I just crawled back under there, and... I looks like I was wrong. I don't see the spacers for a diff drop kit. I am currently using NAPA OEM New CV Axles. Not reman. Which really, the issue is the boots. I'll need to order the Toytec Diff drop kit and see if that will make the difference.
So it’s been a while since you did this mod and it seems like you have mixed feelings about it. Curious if you have any new input on it? I have a diff drop kit just waiting to be installed. For a relatively inexpensive mod do you think it’s a good thing or no? Appreciate any input you may have. Thanks
I took it off as I didn’t think it was doing anything. I also put in new gears up front and I was worried it would mess with the fill process (might read fine but actually be low on fluid)
correct CV angle so it doesn't rip the boot. Odd, I ran this for a year or so and had no grease fling out. I removed it recently when I did my regear and grease is flinging lol. Maybe they worked!!
Is this the 2 inch drop kit or 1 inch? Dope can't wait for shit to calm down to see it go off road😂😂 the pandemic did not slow down us trucker's for sure.
@@PhoRunner here is a great video explaining. In short, u joint produce an oscillating out put speed whenever an angle exists. When parallel and in phase, this cancells out. An angle at the input to the diff would cause a negitive effect, however, maybe so small you wouldnt notice, nevertheless, something to be awear of. th-cam.com/video/Idk3BVDVHq4/w-d-xo.html
@@PhoRunner correct but when engaged it will be effected. Could add intimitant strain on the joint. Maybe not. Just something to add to the list of pros and cons, when considering removing the mod. You could test it jock the car up, check tyre speeds for oscillation. If you havent noticed anything though, it's not an issue
PhoRunner Channel okay, I just installed my 3 inch lift and thats the only thing left. and I was actually installing it yesterday took off the skid plates and bolts put in the spacers only to find out the new bolts don’t freaken fit the factory nuts smh They slip right through. I thought they might have been stripped but no they weren’t the threading was different.
Edit: Finally put in a lift, took plenty of cutting in the front and rear, and a spring compressor. Thanks for your videos, inspiration + instructions since Toytec didn't provide any.
I like a modest 2” lift. Kinda regret going 34s and 3-4” lift lol. Truck is so sluggish now
@@PhoRunner I've been checking out a lot of your videos and just got Bilstein 5100s and OME springs front and rear (881 + 890 rear).
I haven't installed but I'm hoping this setup will work without a ton of premature wear on other parts ><
I wanted something a bit stiffer in the rear to carry my dirtbike around, I hope I didn't do something stupid haha
How has the diff drop held up and helped with the cv axles?
Good video. Great disclaimer at the end since these seem to be a controversial mod. Liked.
Yeah! I’m not convinced!
doin mine here soon waiting on my order to come from Compton. im up in British Columbia so takes a bit. got oldman all around. checked out your vid to see what i was up against. thanks for sharing dude
No worries! Easy job. The skids may not go back on easy and hopefully you got spacers and longer bolts in your kit. Mine was a little more challenging!
Great video thank you, I ended up swapping all my skid plate bolts to 13mm heads to keep them one size,
Nice! I hate using 13mm since nothing else is 13mm but if I have to, I will!
Who makes the blue cv axles
Looks factory for tacoma manual hub?
@@PhoRunner huh
Industrial Metal Supply (L.A. Sunland, Orange County? Sand Diego, Phoenix & Tucson) has bins of aluminum cut offs and rod stock. You could probably get some of the smaller spacers by getting something from the bin and then hack-sawing to the proper length and drilling it. No clue as to hardness spec, but it doesn't look critical, at least for the skidguard.
Thanks for making videos during the quarantine. Maybe I spent too many years teaching middle school but my first thought was, "Man, governor Newsom just grounded ALL of us." (btw There's no statute of limitations for being a rotten kid--sooner or later they catch up to you. Me? I had to teach middle school for ten years. Not one second of that time was the irony of my situation not readily apparent.)
My longer bolt seems fine. Not really sure those spacers are needed. The metal is thin and can bend a little so I made it work. It might be more for aftermarket skids
Just learning, good stuff.
Welcome. Check out Timmy the Toolman too
Great video do you have a line on cv boot upgrade mine keep tearing I have a 2” lift thanks👍
Have you rebooted them? Or just replacing with aftermarket cv?
@@PhoRunner reboot I’ve seen some a ploy material for high angle but can’t seem to find them for 3rd gen’s
Great video brother
I put this same 1” spacer and the skid plate wasn’t lining up exact. The back four bolts for the rear plate I only got one on each side.
Any tips?
do you have to do the diff drop on the rear diff also or is it just the front?
nope, the rear is a solid axle so it won't suffer from these "angle" problems.
Whats size tires and wheels you have on
In this vid, 265/70/17 wildpeak at3w on trd pro wheels
How did the diff drop do?
Hi nice video , I have a quick question for what reason you put those dif spacer , must be when the truck was lifting ?? . I'm new in this and started my project on my 4runner 3rd gen .
Thanks
It supposedly helps with cv angle when you lift it.
How do you like your makita impact? is that the big daddy 1/2" they have or just a mid torque model?
Big daddy 1300ft lbs. I love it when I need it but it is a bit heavy for using all day. Great for suspension work I guess
I’ve got my coilovers cranked way up and my cv’s are at a ridiculous angle. I’m gonna do this and use longer bolts and bigger spacers and see what happens
lol that doesn't sound good. This won't adjust it that much!
Dude, I’m not sure how you took the smaller washer off the oem bolts and transferred them. My did not want to come off
Hmm I’m not sure lol. Get a hammer and something to go around it to persuade it
does it put more pressure and strain on the front drive shaft u joint? would it be better to just go with extended cv axels instead?
I don’t think it affects the back at all and really the diff drop just leans the front down. Im not convinced it really helps lol. Extended boot or 2.5” max lift is the way to go
@@PhoRunner any suggestions on extended cv axels?
Sir need a suggestion for 2inc lift suspension for my 3rd gen 4Runner
Ome 960 and 880 or 881 if you have weight
Do 3rd gen 4runners and 1st gen taccomas share front cv axels?
They should.
is that a aftermarket crossmember? cuz mine sits in the way off the diff when i go to drop it
Stock
I have 3" bilstein lift with Camburg uca's. Do you think differential drop kit is needed? Reason I ask is bc I took them off to fit trd skid plate I just purchased/installed.
I took mine off. Lol
Did you encounter part of the diff slightly touching the cross member when the diff drop is installed? I think the part is the add actuator?
I did not notice any thing like that
Aloha. Great video🤙🏽 just curious what kine bilsteins set up are you running 4runners or tundras? How does it ride? Mahalo
4runner and they are fine.
i have a 7 inch lift on my 1999 tacoma do they sell diff drop kits that drop it 3 inches?
Stack a few ha
I'm looking into buying a 3rd gen 4runner is adding this diff drop kit also 3 inch lift plus change to manual hubs doing same thing what you have done also 3rd gen owners too.
I found a 3rd gen for a grand condition in great shape few blem spots but frame is in great condition in rust belt region.
My overall question with these done are 3rd gen 4 runners decent rigs towing cars?
It’ll get there but it’ll be slow. I’d suggest keep stock tire size if you tow. My 34s cause problems lol. No uphill towing and probably overheats
Should you only install these if you have a 4x4? I just got a 4runner sr5 base model no 4x4. I’m planning on lifting it but need some info on what to get.
Only needed for 4x4.
I did a 2.5 inch lift in the front and immediately ripped both of my axel boots, getting this done as soon as I can
I would just reboot since the diff drop didn’t really help much
@@PhoRunner good to know, I already have the drop kit so I’ll probably still install it but I have a heavy duty set of axels in swapping in today. I’ll reboot the old ones too tho just for some spares. Thanks!
Nice. My driver side ripped and I rebooted it now so I’ll see how she does.
What is the purpose of the diff drop? Thanks
supposedly corrects the CV angle due to the lift.
awesome videos you are making on this 3rd gen 4runner. I recently bought one for a very cheap price but with bad engine. I am currently overhauling my engine at this moment and I cant wait to get it running.
Can you do a valve adjustment videos?
I have never done a valve adjustment on these but I suspect it'll be similar to hondas. Feeler gauges :)
Hey bro did you ever check the space on back bottom of the diff mine was about to touch or rubb the frame like 1/8 to get to rub so I removed my 1in spacers after that esue. I didn't feel confident of leaving it like that's . anyway good luck happy holidays
I ended up taking mine off as I wasn’t convinced it did anything but give me a headache lol
What length and thread are those bolts?
I’m not too sure
What size tires do you got?
In this video it was 265/70/17. I have 285/75/18 now
Which front sway bar links are you using?
Which locking hubs would you recommend?
2nd gen 4runner one. Check out my walk around video on my channel. Aisin hubs are the best and most reliable
Hi brother maybe you can help me I have a 2.5 rough country lift with no DEF spacers for some reason my driver side axle keeps on getting mess up did you ever have any problems with yours and did your spacers help
I never had a problem and even after this lift, still solid. Maybe the diff drop helped but I never had cv issues before
A little off topic here but is there a master kit I can purchase to get manual locking hubs for the 3rd gen? I heard of people getting it off a 1st gen taco but that thing is so damn rare to find. How did you get yours?
I had to hunt it down using car-parts.com
What size of tires are you running?
In this video, they are 265/70/17. Currently I have 285/75/17.
Great video as usual, Do you think in your opinion that this mod is worth doing vs. the questionable topic about the pinion bearing not getting enough lubrication ?
Seems fine for me so far. I don’t think it’s worth doing though. I been back and forth on putting it back to stock lol
@@PhoRunner Thanks for your thoughts.
Bro where did u buy the cv axle upgrade?
It’s from a tacoma. They had manual hubs
I just installed a 3” lift kit on my 99’ 4runner. Would you recommend installing a front and rear diff drop kit? Great videos btw! Very informative.
Nope…
I've considered doing a 2" lift on my '01 4runner. Do you think it's worth doing the CV axel inner boot mod? What about in addition to the diff drop? Great channel btw.
Cv reboot yes. Diff drop nah…
Almost a year later...worth it??
Every penny
I feel like this would reduce your ground clearance. Can you confirm?
It shouldn’t too much as it’s not the lowest part of the vehicle
Helpful, thanks man
You are welcome!!
I have a 3rd Gen 4runner that is going through boots about every oil change. I found your video to educate myself on the front diff drop. Because a local shop wants to charge me 1500.00 to correct that issue. I can see that my 4runner already has the drop kit (done by previous owner) however, I'm still going through boots. After your diff drop, did you notice going to CV boots?
None oddly. I’ve had 2 different sets of cv now and never really an issue. My old one (before manual hubs) leaked a tiny bit. What cv axles are you using? Try napa ones. I hear they are better.
@@PhoRunner thank you for the reply! I just crawled back under there, and... I looks like I was wrong. I don't see the spacers for a diff drop kit. I am currently using NAPA OEM New CV Axles. Not reman. Which really, the issue is the boots. I'll need to order the Toytec Diff drop kit and see if that will make the difference.
How much lift do you have? I don’t feel like the diff drop does much lol. I had it off for a while and never had issues either.
@@PhoRunner it's a 3" lift. My passenger side boot keeps wearing a hole into itself.
Good stuff! thanks.
No prob
Where does jack go
Front cross member. Check out my other video on where the lift points are
So it’s been a while since you did this mod and it seems like you have mixed feelings about it. Curious if you have any new input on it? I have a diff drop kit just waiting to be installed. For a relatively inexpensive mod do you think it’s a good thing or no? Appreciate any input you may have. Thanks
I took it off as I didn’t think it was doing anything. I also put in new gears up front and I was worried it would mess with the fill process (might read fine but actually be low on fluid)
You don't see 13mm on toyotas because the Japanese belive 13 Is a unlucky number
Interesting
What’s the purpose of this kit?
correct CV angle so it doesn't rip the boot. Odd, I ran this for a year or so and had no grease fling out. I removed it recently when I did my regear and grease is flinging lol. Maybe they worked!!
Is this the 2 inch drop kit or 1 inch? Dope can't wait for shit to calm down to see it go off road😂😂 the pandemic did not slow down us trucker's for sure.
1” spacer
You will put the u joints out of phase by doing this mod, this way.
Tell me more. I might get rid of this diff drop
@@PhoRunner here is a great video explaining. In short, u joint produce an oscillating out put speed whenever an angle exists. When parallel and in phase, this cancells out. An angle at the input to the diff would cause a negitive effect, however, maybe so small you wouldnt notice, nevertheless, something to be awear of. th-cam.com/video/Idk3BVDVHq4/w-d-xo.html
Does it apply to manual hubs? Don’t think it’s spinning until locked
@@PhoRunner correct but when engaged it will be effected. Could add intimitant strain on the joint. Maybe not. Just something to add to the list of pros and cons, when considering removing the mod. You could test it jock the car up, check tyre speeds for oscillation. If you havent noticed anything though, it's not an issue
Is it worth the install?
I ended up leaving it on and i haven't had any issues with CV axles yet. Gone on a few offroading trips and all is good
PhoRunner Channel okay, I just installed my 3 inch lift and thats the only thing left. and I was actually installing it yesterday took off the skid plates and bolts put in the spacers only to find out the new bolts don’t freaken fit the factory nuts smh They slip right through. I thought they might have been stripped but no they weren’t the threading was different.
@@JosephJoJoFlores no biggie, just find some grade 8 nuts at your local hardware store. Your diff drop kit should have came with the nuts though.
Mines started leaking oil after
Hmm how lol.
Thats what im saying lol the diff started leaking as soon as i turned it on...
@@b03k19 maybe a new seal where the cv goes into the front diff, this worked to fix my leak, Timmy the toolman has a good video on it
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