I suppose many civilizations dieded in the battle between gurren lagann and the anti-spiral. Except for earth. I actually surprised that ALOT of spiral species are happy about it. Cuz they keep throwing galaxies like shurikens.
It's actually insane, watching this anime from the beginning and then seeing how Simon went from a kid drilling underground to piloting a universe sized mech. Mindblowing.
what universe?? even a single drop of oil from ttgl is bigger than multiverse, universe is as big as an amoeba to super shenron compared to ttgl, simon isnt piloting some small as. s amoeba size robot
+videocreator970 Hey, at least they explained it away with reality altering abilities. If Simon wanted, he could alter constants in physics equations or make one plus one equal 3. And they also made it a revelatory "the bad guy is right and we're leading the universe to destruction" twist.
+videocreator970 but seeing Scrodinger,Planck's energy,Probabillity calculations,teleportation and such in one single anime is seriously beyond my comprehension
So much comparison between Goku and Simon with hate on both sides, but we all know how it'd go. Kamina would come out of no where and punch them both, point them at a foe, them ramble on about believing in you who believes in yourself.
the funniest part is that this series started with one of the smallest mechs in an anime and ended with just ridiculous over-the-top awesomeness sized mechs
***** Demonbane pops whatever universe it's in just by forming, but what do you expect for an extradimensional Cthulhu-mythos mech. The Chou Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, equates to 1% of the visible universe in terms of size.
Apollo A Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is not measured in BILLIONS it's MILLION. You are wrong the observable universe is 78 Billion light years in radius.
I really liked that sttgl looks like kamina, it's like when simon says to kamina that he lives in his heart (episode 26) is actually quite literal, the sttgl is the representation of that, kamina is still alive in all dai gurren brigade's member'd hearts and thats the perfect way to show it
The small ones - Lagann, Gurren, and Dai-Gurren - were made on Earth in giant factories. The larger ones like Arc-Gurren and Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren were made in space, since that is where they primarily function. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann are formed entirely of spiral energy.
Remember that time when Kamina said "Your drill is the drill that will break through the heavens!" to Simon? Then against the Anti-Spiral, Simon's drill literally causes a break in the space-time continuum, literally, breaking through the heavens! Kamina means what he says! Goddamn.
I'm just going to say the following and whoever reads this comment from a video from about 12 years ago when I finish gurren lagann then you're weird friend draegor is more powerful than any god literally his name is the killer of gods and he literally killed chutulu I say he killed him eradicate dagon who has almost the same power as chutulu and is immortal
Porque Mans It's called symbolism. While this can be taken in a variety of ways and it is more or less up to the viewer to decide, it's obviously not literally Kamina.. or is it? As shown in episode 26 when a person of sufficient spiral energy dies they don't really "die" rather they become spiral energy and are able to manifest themselves through presumably great effort. It is entirely possible that Kamina (and maybe everyone else) lended his powers, like a spirit bomb, to Simon during the final battle and took the form of STTGL. In Simon's own words, it was time to "combine". Who is to say that only included the living members of Team Dai-Gurren? However I prefer to think of it as Kamina in a symbolic fashion, and since that's what I started this comment on I'll end it on symbolism. In all honesty Kamina is probably dead, and episode 26 was Simon talking to his inner "Kamina", otherwise known as his inner willpower which he chooses to see as Kamina. After all, you can't bring people back from the dead and Simon knows this. However in the final fight STTGL was Simon's will power made manifest. It was all he stood for, all he was, and all he ever would be. As it's his will power, and as stated Kamina is what Simon depicts as his inner will, then STTGL would also be Kamina.
MrObviousJester Ara ara, actually Simon's Spiral Power does have the power to bring the dead back to life. This was stated right after Nia faded out of existence. Yoko commented saying that Simon isn't a god and that it would be better if he let them rest in piece. I'm pretty sure Simon wants to revive Nia, Kamina, and Team Dai Gurren, but he doesn't want to seem like a god.
Kurumi Tokisaki I don't remember them ever mentioning Simon being able to bring people back to life with spiral energy, and if he could no one would be able to know because he didn't do it (obviously). In the scene you mentioned I remember (though it's been a while I could be remembering this incorrectly) that Yoko said specifically "hes not god" not "he doesn't want to be seen like a god" Edit: I never watched the movies, so if it was edited/changed then I have no clue.
The Anti-Spiral is a being of literally infinite power, as is Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. They fought one another to a stalemate, prompting Simon to jump out and kill the Anti-Spiral with his bare hands. The moral of the show is that it doesn't matter how powerful your opposition is, if you never give up and keep growing as a person you can overcome all obstacles. Simon is supposed to embody that, so the question is sort of moot.
This whole speed of light-thing made me realize something: It would take millions of years, possibly billions of years for the light emitted from Super Tengan Toppa Gurren Lagann and Super Grand Zamboa to reach Earth for an audience to see. That means after billions of years when Simon and the gang save the world, a group of people or beings who've never known them (probably) will suddenly see a grand sky-filled battle take place all throughout the sky...like...a giant 3d movie projection at Disney or something! I bet even they in their infinite abilities and technology would shit their self-cleaning butt-massaging pants at that sight.
If you remember from the anime, the area in which they fight is located between what we humans call the tenth and eleventh dimension. Its a sub universe, so im assuming that no one else was in it... But this is anime, and one in which physics and general sanity is thrown out the window, so it's pointless to even dive into a physical argument...
The Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is 52.8 billion light years tall, 58% the size of the real universe (which spans 91 billion light years). The Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill is 35 times larger, which means that the SSTGL with its Giga Drill is the size of a multiverse with 20 universes. The Anti-Spiral space they were fighting in is thousands of times larger than the STTGL Giga Drill, making the Anti-Spiral dimension size of an omniverse with thousands of universes. The entire Anti-Spiral space was destroyed in their battle, demonstrating that the Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill Break has the power to destroy thousands of universes.
+Razor Edge The observable universe is 91 billion light years, real universe size is unknown, though, the matter that they "destroyed" in this process is probably what the real universe has to offer. Which means that STTGLs giga drill is so freaking huge, we cannot even see it because it is just way to big. And, way to far away from earth(if you don't care about how the heck did earth see all that stuff, i say TTGL just generally likes to fuck physics.), not only this fight would take about ten trillion years to deal with, it also means that every single movement of them will come to earth about just a few another 2 billion years for the light to come. Which means that if there were ever such a fight, we would be sitting duck, not even able to see a shit. another thing: Then consider the fact that that Grand Zamboa took two galaxies and rolled them together to get enough energy as a big bang. Which first lets look at the "point" of big bang, it is a dot, that is infinitely small, and holds about 28g of things crammed in there. And just by how he seriously rolled a ball, and it was a big bang(you can even see the creation that spit out of the big bang attack), you can consider how many mass is required to fill a thing that is about 52billion light years big and in it, every single "dot" must hold 28g. Yeah, hmmm, makes sense but no. Then consider that it made an unstable black hole which will create such a dot, because a dot is sufficient to create universe. which sounds much better, as that grand zamboa just need to direct the energy from one dot to TTGL. Also supports the theory of there is gigantic blackholes in the galaxy. Science achieved!
Elder God Demonbane: That's my boy! *tears up* They grow up so fast man. I remember back when he was so small he fit on this little rocky planet in the middle of nowhere.
Tell him that Shimon, while being the most powerful being in the spiral universe, was once a small boy who couldn't do anything, and had to almost die every battle just to recognize his role in team gurren. Then he had to fight seemingly impossible odds at every turn against Lordgenome AND the anti spirals, before finally obtaining lordgenome's spiral energy to defeat the anti spirals, and that if it weren't for ALL of Earth and the combatants, Shimon would never have made it that far and earth
If you all remember from the anime, the area in which they fight is located between what we humans call the tenth and eleventh dimension. Its a sub universe, so im assuming that no one else was in it... But this is anime, and one in which physics and general sanity is thrown out the window, so it's pointless to even dive into a physical argument...
I always wondered, wouldn't the extremities of these stupidly huge mechas need to travel faster than the speed of light to move at the speeds at which they did?
grimmer190 My theory is, these beings are in their own localized relativity (maybe some sort of quantum state) where everything seems sped up based on their perception. Obviously, they can't go faster than light, but they are perceiving themselves as moving millions of times faster than light but in the second it takes to move their arm or leg or whatever. In reality, they are moving slower than light, and the universe has aged millions or billions of years, but based on their local relativity, they see it as only taking seconds. If a galaxy had sentience, it would probably perceive itself as moving away or closer to another galaxy in seconds based on their own localized relativity, but in reality the universe is aging billions of years. So, for someone on Earth observing STTGL, it would look like it wasn't moving at all, but if this human could live to be billions of years old, he/she could slowly but surely watch this thing punch another thing of the same size. All the while STTGL perceived itself as punching the other thing in a fraction of second. Make sense?
redhandsbluefaces _To be honest in my opinion Spiral Energy simply has similar capabilities to what Element Zero (Mass Effect) does, warping the physical properties of affected objects to allow all of the physical impossibilities which TTGL does._
REALLY technologically advanced humans. A thousand years before the start of the series, they were able to make entire armies of Dai-Gurrens (basically a walking battleship), let alone all the smaller ones which were about as common as cars. The Moon-sized one was one of a kind, so that was probably their upper limit when shit started going bad. TTGL and STTGL weren't 'built.' They were imagined into existence in a pocket Universe that ran on total bullshit hax laws, hence the absurd sizes.
Seth Mason in gurrens funal form hi is not almost a universe he is bigger then that in fact it literally cant hold him goku would have to combine with superman batman the hulk and golactus just to get obliterated
Seth Mason A mega galaxy buster? STTGL'S ATTACK COLLAPSED THE FREAKING UNIVERSE.Also, Goku is not stronger then all of them, you have to be insanely stupid to believe that a 58 billion light year tall being with a 580 billion light year tall attack with the infinite power of spiral energy to do anything, even create out of nothing warp space time to his will. In his early form, shatter space with the force of his punch and was able to handle an attack from the grandzeboma which was as great as the big bang can lose to a being whose only 5 feet big, is able to destroy a big part of a small galaxy and transform to increase his power. Goku would be vaporised not by a hit, but by being in it's mere presence. Simon is truly infinite
Kamina knew they would go this fucking hard that's why he specifically said "your drill is the drill that will pierce the heavens!" God that man had vision.
The size of the entire universe is probably infinite since Hubble showed us that it's expanding. That's why I asked because it would have been silly to make it just a certain size.
I just have to say, even the speed of light can't transmit signals from a human to a mecha that big, it'll be like playing a game with a LOT of lag! But yes, it is an anime and physics do not matter. It's just sheer ridiculousness.
I'm pretty sure that at the end they're in a paralel dimension, the anti-spiral universe, so normal physics dont apply to that universe, that could be a good explanation i think
STTGL's Giga Drill Breaker is 528 billion light years long. Wiki said that "The size of the Universe is unknown; it may be infinite. The region visible from Earth (the observable universe) is a sphere with a radius of about 46 billion light years." Since we don't know exact size of the universe. This pocket dimension may be smaller or bigger.
the feeling of insignifigance overwhelms me when i see the universe now how can we overcome this feeling when we think of our existence. i know. mecha anime. its super effective.
Just the idea that such a machine could even move, let alone moving at the speeds it did; mind boggling. If that actually happened in real time, the entire universe would just be torn apart due to physics.
The combination of all of dai gurren dan's spiral energy to evolve and create the ultimate machine to combat the anti spiral. Their fighting spirit made a mech bigger than any known galaxy, in short.
yea they say they might off killed a few civilizations in the process but i guess no one cared lol, but them getting so big was supposed to represent the path of a drill, always revolving, getting stronger, going through obsticals to get to the ultimate goal. i highly recomend you go watch this series as it is one of the best animes out there and you will still be thinking about after years
@@AshAdkins22 wow, i made this comment when i was like 12. Looking back, this is kinda embarassing. But i dont remember what is the strongest mecha anymore, sorry.
TTGL is made at least partially out of metal; spiral energy creates the metal (like when Gurren Lagann repairs itself) and constitutes the gigantic flames. It has been stated that spiral energy breaks the law of conservation of mass, so there you go.
In order to make a scale model that stretches the length of our solar system (approx. 9,000,000,000 km), it would have to be 0.0000137 the size. That's a (very) roughly 1/100,000 scale model.
aron long Goku would solo Gurren Lagann, Dai Gurren Lagann, Arc Gurren Lagann, and Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann with minimal effort. Then TTGL comes along and kills him just by existing.
I'll revise that then. It will be a hard fight with SGGL, but it will be dependent on whether or not Simon musters the sufficient spiral energy to destroy Goku first.
SuperMegaUltraTengenToppaBigBangInfinityGigaDrillBreakBURST i would say he wouldnt have trouble until after galaxy since he can bust solar systems but the tttgl would reck him since he would have to fire a beam larger than 40 billion lightyears around lol
It is kinda funny, Gurren Lagann is THE most overkill anime of all time when it comes to size. TTGL was obscenely large to begin with, and then they make even it tiny with STTGL. But, it is awesome all the same.
Apart from the slight annoyance that it's Granzemboma or Granzamboma (one of the two) and not Grand Zamboa, this was pretty interesting. Again though, it was only a slight annoyance, don't get pissed off over it.
people bringing up goku again.. i love dbz and ttgl but there is not a single character in dbz that could scratch ttgl let alone sttgl, the highest known feats in dbz is whis and bills at solar system level
Potatoe meanwhile luffy is at like city buster level and the onepiece verse is at like continental buster at max but it still is the best show ever and has much better quality and story gg
Technically TTGL can expand to fight anything that threatens it. As long as they have fighting spirit which simon is an endless well of. So in other words "THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM!"
guys! the fucking goku fan boys say that goku can instant teleport in the pilots cock pit but i can assure you that goku cant even detect the pilots due to the pure infinite energy, it covers the pilot's own energy. Even if he can be able to detect energy of the pilot, goku must travel millions of light-years distance just to even reach the cockpits destination (goku must know where the location he wants to go is to teleport as it says in the anime himself). Looking for the pilot in the TTGL mecha is like looking for a specific atom in the human body
Not fanboying nor do I actually care about this "dispute" but instant transmission is where he senses someone's or thing's energy and "instantly" teleports there so if he did find the pilots energy he wouldn't take forever to get there since its a lightyears distance away. He would instantly be there no time wasted. I just wanted to clear that up for ya it annoys me when people don't get facts straight.
Grand Zamboa never quite reached out of the pocket universe they were fighting in, and we all know that the scale within that pocket universe was SUPREMELY messed up (TTGL needing to open its mouth for Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann to exit it, my ass).
I know, but it's nice to have internal consistency anyway. And despite the whole "kick logic to the curb" attitude, TTGL actually has fairly good internal consistency.
Tony Stuart I don't really know shenron that has no wish limit (wondering if that includes asking for infinite more wishes or something like that) Also I can't really tell since both of them are gods at that level.
I can see goku standing a chance against a chance against the super galaxy gurren lagann. But there is no way that he could beat the TTGL, let alone the STTGL...
That's just in one field of view, take note that we don't know everything yet, we don't know what's beyond the rabbit hole at that point. We can only speculate and formulate ideas until we have the final picture. Hell, this is why we have science: to figure it out. Ideas can be shared, picked at, and played with until we have concrete evidence or observation to play with even further.
Sora PL None of his enemies were reality warpers. Probability shield will result in Saitama not punching the robot so he'll do nothing to it no matter how hard he tries. So far all Saitama showed is his physical strength and resistance.
Uriel Ventris Yeah there are 2 movies, Childhood's End wich is just the first part of the anime (when Simon is still a kid), and the lights in the sky are stars wich is the second part of the anime(when Simon is grown up) there is nothing new except for the Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann is way bigger than Earth and the Moon. Arc-Gurren is made from the size replica of the Moon so it's about as big as it. In the episode where Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann makes it's first appearance Earth sized planets are thrown at it and look about the size of small rocks compared to it. So all three last forms are completely off scale.
Nothing is being pushed away from anything in the sense of real motion, for example imagine you and a friend chillin. neither of you are moving, yet the gap between you 2 is widening, nothing is pushing you 2 apart, but there's more space between you. The force behind it is called dark energy as we don't really know what it is, but it generates a pressure that expands space, and it accelerates because as space expands it becomes easier to expand, exactly opposite of a rubber band.
the Anti-Spiral has one bigass home-planet... it's bigger than the friggin Sun AND the Milky Way!!! (because it's half the size of the head of Granzeboma (or Grand Zamboa)
The spiral warriors made the mechs up unto cathedral terra (which is the biggest "natural" mech), the others (from the arc-gurren and above) are made by combining the lagann with them, they defy most laws of physics by creating mattery out of nowhere.
Only in Gurren Lagann, can robots throw galaxies at each other as a minor attack.
I suppose many civilizations dieded in the battle between gurren lagann and the anti-spiral. Except for earth. I actually surprised that ALOT of spiral species are happy about it. Cuz they keep throwing galaxies like shurikens.
Well to be fair it was only the anti-spiral who destroyed the galaxies, not really fair to blame team dai-gurren.
Ac Ze They actually fought in the rift between the 10th dimension or something, I think it was a parallel universe made by the anti-spirals.
xXx_GiveYourMeatAGoodOl'Rub_xXx obvious bait is obvious
Lol. Love this series so much. And true
It's actually insane, watching this anime from the beginning and then seeing how Simon went from a kid drilling underground to piloting a universe sized mech. Mindblowing.
And then it escalated to materialising a literal multiversal sized drill, gotta love it.
@@elitist8159 what a multiversal drill
a drill more than 567 times bigger than a universe
what universe?? even a single drop of oil from ttgl is bigger than multiverse, universe is as big as an amoeba to super shenron compared to ttgl, simon isnt piloting some small as. s amoeba size robot
and kamina's manliness is even larger than the universe
That gives another meaning to "mine is the drill that will pierce the heavens".
Or maybe that was the meaning all along
I love TTGL that show decided to just throw physics out the window,
videocreator970 All anime throw physics out the window... this anime just made it badass.
+videocreator970 Hey, at least they explained it away with reality altering abilities. If Simon wanted, he could alter constants in physics equations or make one plus one equal 3. And they also made it a revelatory "the bad guy is right and we're leading the universe to destruction" twist.
+videocreator970 but seeing Scrodinger,Planck's energy,Probabillity calculations,teleportation and such in one single anime is seriously beyond my comprehension
Do the impossible*
I like anti spiral more than sttgl
So much comparison between Goku and Simon with hate on both sides, but we all know how it'd go. Kamina would come out of no where and punch them both, point them at a foe, them ramble on about believing in you who believes in yourself.
wolfpax181 basically you've got it all right man
Grit your teeth
Cringe af
the funniest part is that this series started with one of the smallest mechs in an anime and ended with just ridiculous over-the-top awesomeness sized mechs
Is it possible that the Super TTGL's Giga Drill is the largest single object ever depicted in the history of fiction?
BElieve it or not, but Demonbane & Primal Monitor are even bigger
*****
Demonbane can increase his size infinitely. He was so big, that he destroyed universes just by walking.
***** Demonbane pops whatever universe it's in just by forming, but what do you expect for an extradimensional Cthulhu-mythos mech.
The Chou Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann, equates to 1% of the visible universe in terms of size.
Apollo A Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is not measured in BILLIONS it's MILLION. You are wrong the observable universe is 78 Billion light years in radius.
finalfrontier001 Everywhere I go, it's in billions. Where did you read millions?
I really liked that sttgl looks like kamina, it's like when simon says to kamina that he lives in his heart (episode 26) is actually quite literal, the sttgl is the representation of that, kamina is still alive in all dai gurren brigade's member'd hearts and thats the perfect way to show it
nahuelisimo1197 STTGL is Kamina reborn
- "How tall do you want your mechs to be?"
- "Yes."
The small ones - Lagann, Gurren, and Dai-Gurren - were made on Earth in giant factories. The larger ones like Arc-Gurren and Super Galaxy Dai-Gurren were made in space, since that is where they primarily function. Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann are formed entirely of spiral energy.
Remember that time when Kamina said "Your drill is the drill that will break through the heavens!" to Simon?
Then against the Anti-Spiral, Simon's drill literally causes a break in the space-time continuum, literally, breaking through the heavens! Kamina means what he says! Goddamn.
I'm just going to say the following and whoever reads this comment from a video from about 12 years ago when I finish gurren lagann then you're weird friend
draegor is more powerful than any god literally his name is the killer of gods and he literally killed chutulu I say he killed him eradicate dagon who has almost the same power as chutulu and is immortal
I prefer to call STTGL the, "Giant Kamina."
Porque Mans
Except that it isn't. Official sources state that STTGL is Kamina's reincarnation.
Porque Mans It's called symbolism. While this can be taken in a variety of ways and it is more or less up to the viewer to decide, it's obviously not literally Kamina.. or is it? As shown in episode 26 when a person of sufficient spiral energy dies they don't really "die" rather they become spiral energy and are able to manifest themselves through presumably great effort. It is entirely possible that Kamina (and maybe everyone else) lended his powers, like a spirit bomb, to Simon during the final battle and took the form of STTGL. In Simon's own words, it was time to "combine". Who is to say that only included the living members of Team Dai-Gurren?
However I prefer to think of it as Kamina in a symbolic fashion, and since that's what I started this comment on I'll end it on symbolism. In all honesty Kamina is probably dead, and episode 26 was Simon talking to his inner "Kamina", otherwise known as his inner willpower which he chooses to see as Kamina. After all, you can't bring people back from the dead and Simon knows this. However in the final fight STTGL was Simon's will power made manifest. It was all he stood for, all he was, and all he ever would be. As it's his will power, and as stated Kamina is what Simon depicts as his inner will, then STTGL would also be Kamina.
MrObviousJester Ara ara, actually Simon's Spiral Power does have the power to bring the dead back to life. This was stated right after Nia faded out of existence. Yoko commented saying that Simon isn't a god and that it would be better if he let them rest in piece.
I'm pretty sure Simon wants to revive Nia, Kamina, and Team Dai Gurren, but he doesn't want to seem like a god.
Kurumi Tokisaki I don't remember them ever mentioning Simon being able to bring people back to life with spiral energy, and if he could no one would be able to know because he didn't do it (obviously). In the scene you mentioned I remember (though it's been a while I could be remembering this incorrectly) that Yoko said specifically "hes not god" not "he doesn't want to be seen like a god"
Edit: I never watched the movies, so if it was edited/changed then I have no clue.
MrObviousJester As I said before, it happens right after Nia disappears. Rewatch the scene.
Real MVP here is Simon who can actually operate that thing 😂
The Anti-Spiral is a being of literally infinite power, as is Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. They fought one another to a stalemate, prompting Simon to jump out and kill the Anti-Spiral with his bare hands.
The moral of the show is that it doesn't matter how powerful your opposition is, if you never give up and keep growing as a person you can overcome all obstacles. Simon is supposed to embody that, so the question is sort of moot.
Exactly bro
This whole speed of light-thing made me realize something:
It would take millions of years, possibly billions of years for the light emitted from Super Tengan Toppa Gurren Lagann and Super Grand Zamboa to reach Earth for an audience to see.
That means after billions of years when Simon and the gang save the world, a group of people or beings who've never known them (probably) will suddenly see a grand sky-filled battle take place all throughout the sky...like...a giant 3d movie projection at Disney or something!
I bet even they in their infinite abilities and technology would shit their self-cleaning butt-massaging pants at that sight.
Shhhhhh..... Don't point out the Obvious plot holes here.
Gurren Lagann gives 0 fucks, which is part of what makes it awesome.
yes and no but remember that a rip in space time caused earth to appear also these guys can ignore that light years shit because idk they just can
If you remember from the anime, the area in which they fight is located between what we humans call the tenth and eleventh dimension. Its a sub universe, so im assuming that no one else was in it... But this is anime, and one in which physics and general sanity is thrown out the window, so it's pointless to even dive into a physical argument...
Syn~
Oh you it's never pointless to have fun.
I didn't know about the dimension thing, however. That's neat.
The Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann is 52.8 billion light years tall, 58% the size of the real universe (which spans 91 billion light years).
The Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill is 35 times larger, which means that the SSTGL with its Giga Drill is the size of a multiverse with 20 universes.
The Anti-Spiral space they were fighting in is thousands of times larger than the STTGL Giga Drill, making the Anti-Spiral dimension size of an omniverse with thousands of universes. The entire Anti-Spiral space was destroyed in their battle, demonstrating that the Super Tengen Toppa Giga Drill Break has the power to destroy thousands of universes.
全198機 ロボットの大きさを比較「ガンダム系からエヴァ、メタルギア、マクロス色々」watch this an you will find out that STTGL is way bigger than our observable universe
marco rodriguez
Could you translate what that says?
The real universe doesn't have a calculated size lol
+Razor Edge The observable universe is 91 billion light years, real universe size is unknown, though, the matter that they "destroyed" in this process is probably what the real universe has to offer.
Which means that STTGLs giga drill is so freaking huge, we cannot even see it because it is just way to big.
And, way to far away from earth(if you don't care about how the heck did earth see all that stuff, i say TTGL just generally likes to fuck physics.), not only this fight would take about ten trillion years to deal with, it also means that every single movement of them will come to earth about just a few another 2 billion years for the light to come.
Which means that if there were ever such a fight, we would be sitting duck, not even able to see a shit.
another thing:
Then consider the fact that that Grand Zamboa took two galaxies and rolled them together to get enough energy as a big bang.
Which first lets look at the "point" of big bang, it is a dot, that is infinitely small, and holds about 28g of things crammed in there.
And just by how he seriously rolled a ball, and it was a big bang(you can even see the creation that spit out of the big bang attack), you can consider how many mass is required to fill a thing that is about 52billion light years big and in it, every single "dot" must hold 28g.
Yeah, hmmm, makes sense but no.
Then consider that it made an unstable black hole which will create such a dot, because a dot is sufficient to create universe.
which sounds much better, as that grand zamboa just need to direct the energy from one dot to TTGL.
Also supports the theory of there is gigantic blackholes in the galaxy.
Science achieved!
+Adam Xue -- Minor additional point...the Hubble sphere is 91 billion light years right NOW. It is still expanding.
If you pilot a super robot that can throw galaxies like shuriken stars, you know you're The Best Mecha Anime Ever!
super galaxy guren lagann---> tengen toppa gurren lagann
Well that escalated quickly
(Sees tengen toppa gurren lagann).
I'd buy that for a dollar
The best GameStop can give you is 30 cents and that's all
I’d buy that for a penny
Elder God Demonbane: That's my boy! *tears up* They grow up so fast man. I remember back when he was so small he fit on this little rocky planet in the middle of nowhere.
Tell him that Shimon, while being the most powerful being in the spiral universe, was once a small boy who couldn't do anything, and had to almost die every battle just to recognize his role in team gurren. Then he had to fight seemingly impossible odds at every turn against Lordgenome AND the anti spirals, before finally obtaining lordgenome's spiral energy to defeat the anti spirals, and that if it weren't for ALL of Earth and the combatants, Shimon would never have made it that far and earth
If you all remember from the anime, the area in which they fight is located between what we humans call the tenth and eleventh dimension. Its a sub universe, so im assuming that no one else was in it... But this is anime, and one in which physics and general sanity is thrown out the window, so it's pointless to even dive into a physical argument...
I always wondered, wouldn't the extremities of these stupidly huge mechas need to travel faster than the speed of light to move at the speeds at which they did?
THE SPEED OF LIGHT IS YOUR LIMITATION!!! JUST WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK WE ARE!?
grimmer190 Quoting the great and mighty leader, Kamina
_"Go beyond the impossible_, _and kick reason to the curb_! _That's how Team Gurren rolls_!"
grimmer190 My theory is, these beings are in their own localized relativity (maybe some sort of quantum state) where everything seems sped up based on their perception. Obviously, they can't go faster than light, but they are perceiving themselves as moving millions of times faster than light but in the second it takes to move their arm or leg or whatever. In reality, they are moving slower than light, and the universe has aged millions or billions of years, but based on their local relativity, they see it as only taking seconds.
If a galaxy had sentience, it would probably perceive itself as moving away or closer to another galaxy in seconds based on their own localized relativity, but in reality the universe is aging billions of years.
So, for someone on Earth observing STTGL, it would look like it wasn't moving at all, but if this human could live to be billions of years old, he/she could slowly but surely watch this thing punch another thing of the same size. All the while STTGL perceived itself as punching the other thing in a fraction of second.
Make sense?
redhandsbluefaces
_To be honest in my opinion Spiral Energy simply has similar capabilities to what Element Zero (Mass Effect) does, warping the physical properties of affected objects to allow all of the physical impossibilities which TTGL does._
that implies that any fight with STTGL would not even be a fight though, which is kinda lame
Guys, the thing is spiral power speed is way faster than the speed of light ;)
REALLY technologically advanced humans. A thousand years before the start of the series, they were able to make entire armies of Dai-Gurrens (basically a walking battleship), let alone all the smaller ones which were about as common as cars. The Moon-sized one was one of a kind, so that was probably their upper limit when shit started going bad.
TTGL and STTGL weren't 'built.' They were imagined into existence in a pocket Universe that ran on total bullshit hax laws, hence the absurd sizes.
sometimes you need to destroy a whole universe to saving your own world
Those are some bigass robot gods.
So basically 1 sneeze and we all die
The person in the cockpit became stronger then sttgl itself. He is became omnipotent.
I love this so much! And I love how you used that song for the background music. Awesome!
should have added in a tiny dot "the universe" and a foot "your moms foot"
I think we got 2 Nobel Prizes of atronomy here ^^
Guys guys guys i am a super dbz fan and even im saying goku would lose
Ofcourse he would lose big time.. he doesn't use any mecha
The Donut of False Truth really i don't see that happen
The Donut of False Truth Not a slim chance, he has no chance. He would have a chance against the moon sized gurren lagann
Seth Mason in gurrens funal form hi is not almost a universe he is bigger then that in fact it literally cant hold him goku would have to combine with superman batman the hulk and golactus just to get obliterated
Seth Mason A mega galaxy buster? STTGL'S ATTACK COLLAPSED THE FREAKING UNIVERSE.Also, Goku is not stronger then all of them, you have to be insanely stupid to believe that a 58 billion light year tall being with a 580 billion light year tall attack with the infinite power of spiral energy to do anything, even create out of nothing warp space time to his will. In his early form, shatter space with the force of his punch and was able to handle an attack from the grandzeboma which was as great as the big bang can lose to a being whose only 5 feet big, is able to destroy a big part of a small galaxy and transform to increase his power. Goku would be vaporised not by a hit, but by being in it's mere presence. Simon is truly infinite
Kamina knew they would go this fucking hard that's why he specifically said "your drill is the drill that will pierce the heavens!" God that man had vision.
The universe is always expanding not unlimited
The size of the entire universe is probably infinite since Hubble showed us that it's expanding.
That's why I asked because it would have been silly to make it just a certain size.
I just have to say, even the speed of light can't transmit signals from a human to a mecha that big, it'll be like playing a game with a LOT of lag! But yes, it is an anime and physics do not matter. It's just sheer ridiculousness.
That's an interesting point...never thought of that.
I'm pretty sure that at the end they're in a paralel dimension, the anti-spiral universe, so normal physics dont apply to that universe, that could be a good explanation i think
Samuel Lynn Ah, I did not take that into account. This changes everything!
***** quantum entanglement
***** See the invisible
break the unbreakable
crush the uncrushable
GURREN LAGANN !
STTGL's Giga Drill Breaker is 528 billion light years long.
Wiki said that "The size of the Universe is unknown; it may be infinite. The region visible from Earth (the observable universe) is a sphere with a radius of about 46 billion light years."
Since we don't know exact size of the universe. This pocket dimension may be smaller or bigger.
the feeling of insignifigance overwhelms me when i see the universe
now how can we overcome this feeling when we think of our existence.
i know.
mecha anime.
its super effective.
I suddenly feel really small
Just the idea that such a machine could even move, let alone moving at the speeds it did; mind boggling. If that actually happened in real time, the entire universe would just be torn apart due to physics.
0:00 - *squeals*
0:07 - *girly squeal*
0:13 - *drools*
0:20 - *drools and squeals*
0:27 - *jaw-drop*
0:34 - *manly nose-bleed*
1:16 - *brain seized functioning*
1:28 - *brain explodes*
1:50 - *whole house explodes*
and that's my reaction, thank you!
Can we even comprehend a size that big man gigantic galaxy size makes galactus look like a germ
PrimedTenno smaller than that ! XD
@@paulinenguyen8000 lol ok smaller than an atom
God looks down and sees 2 gigantic drills
And the god would be definitely kill them with just demanding...haha
The combination of all of dai gurren dan's spiral energy to evolve and create the ultimate machine to combat the anti spiral.
Their fighting spirit made a mech bigger than any known galaxy, in short.
yea they say they might off killed a few civilizations in the process but i guess no one cared lol, but them getting so big was supposed to represent the path of a drill, always revolving, getting stronger, going through obsticals to get to the ultimate goal. i highly recomend you go watch this series as it is one of the best animes out there and you will still be thinking about after years
I've never watched this anime, but I have one question in my mind. Who TF made these robots THAT ARE EVEN LARGER THE GALAXIES THEMSELVES
Thought the same thing,bro
It's their willpower basically.
Meta GALAXY
@labibalam2964 so it's just imagination?
tengen toppa gurren lagann ,the coolest (not the strongest) mecha i ever see !! XD
tendou yukio it had the drill that would create the universe how is it not the strongest? Lol
What the hell is the strongest then?
@@AshAdkins22 wow, i made this comment when i was like 12. Looking back, this is kinda embarassing. But i dont remember what is the strongest mecha anymore, sorry.
@@arkachivanagand9915 haha fair enough
@@arkachivanagand9915 wow replying 7 years later. I would have completely forgot this vid xd
Yes, they're from the second movie along with like a dozen smaller "Tengen Toppa" mechs.
TTGL is made at least partially out of metal; spiral energy creates the metal (like when Gurren Lagann repairs itself) and constitutes the gigantic flames. It has been stated that spiral energy breaks the law of conservation of mass, so there you go.
Gurren Lagann>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Goku
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In order to make a scale model that stretches the length of our solar system (approx. 9,000,000,000 km), it would have to be 0.0000137 the size. That's a (very) roughly 1/100,000 scale model.
I'm sorry but i don't think that Goku can use entire galaxies as fucking shuriken -_-
I completely agree.
aron long Goku would solo Gurren Lagann, Dai Gurren Lagann, Arc Gurren Lagann, and Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann with minimal effort. Then TTGL comes along and kills him just by existing.
I'll revise that then. It will be a hard fight with SGGL, but it will be dependent on whether or not Simon musters the sufficient spiral energy to destroy Goku first.
SuperMegaUltraTengenToppaBigBangInfinityGigaDrillBreakBURST i would say he wouldnt have trouble until after galaxy since he can bust solar systems but the tttgl would reck him since he would have to fire a beam larger than 40 billion lightyears around lol
It is kinda funny, Gurren Lagann is THE most overkill anime of all time when it comes to size. TTGL was obscenely large to begin with, and then they make even it tiny with STTGL. But, it is awesome all the same.
Guys... just stop... goku is no match for TEAM DAI-GURREN!
Goku shouldn't mess with any mecha on their team larger than Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann. I mean cmon even TTGL's head is larger than the Milky Way.
yeah !
@@Rivai-Heicho Simon can erase a multiverse with a thought
@@Rivai-Heicho Goku is low 4D while TTGL is at the very least 10D but most likely 11D. He is multiple infinities above goku
fergan guney may not be but this anime is fucking stupid who the fuck makes robots this big lmaoo so stupid
Apart from the slight annoyance that it's Granzemboma or Granzamboma (one of the two) and not Grand Zamboa, this was pretty interesting. Again though, it was only a slight annoyance, don't get pissed off over it.
If they wanted to, I'm sure they would make a form that's a million times bigger than Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann. That's just how they do.
absolutely!! maybe there’s a “Hyper Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann” somewhere out there. That has enough power to rip holes into the story/fiction itself
That would be FUCKING AWESOME
Well, they already have instantaneous inter-universal travel, so I just see it as an expansion upon that technology.
When your new form is so big, that you can't even see your previous form, unless extreme telescope zooming.
Only in Gurren Lagann !
and thats how this galaxy formed :v
MILKY WAY: I m largest
STTGL: i m the largest
Mr.Plankton: Bitch please...am i a joke to u?
people bringing up goku again.. i love dbz and ttgl but there is not a single character in dbz that could scratch ttgl let alone sttgl, the highest known feats in dbz is whis and bills at solar system level
gullyy92 I know that they can't defeat them but saying that they are just Solar System buster is too much of a shame, they are way much more that.
Potatoe beerus & whis are way more than that
CJAdams97 *Goku, Vegeta, Gohan, maybe Piccolo, Krillin...
Potatoe meanwhile luffy is at like city buster level and the onepiece verse is at like continental buster at max but it still is the best show ever and has much better quality and story gg
gullyy92 actually they don't even have solar system feats, just star level
Craziest anime ever. I loved every fucking minute of it.
Everyone here seems to be forgetting the fact that Elder God Demonbane is in a eroge visual novel series literally making him a complete joke.
STTGL and TTGL are the biggest robots of importance, other than Getter Emperor of course.
***** STTGL can be really considered a robot? because.... you know.... the biggest part is made by energy
Technically TTGL can expand to fight anything that threatens it. As long as they have fighting spirit which simon is an endless well of. So in other words "THIS ISN'T EVEN MY FINAL FORM!"
you should play Saya no Uta. this will change your mind on eroge visual novels.
Nitro+ ain't some joke...
They made Steins;Gate and such, just because Demonbane has eroge doesn't mean its a joke
Gurren Lagann taught me about size and relative comparisons. Thanks Anime!
guys! the fucking goku fan boys say that goku can instant teleport in the pilots cock pit but i can assure you that goku cant even detect the pilots due to the pure infinite energy, it covers the pilot's own energy. Even if he can be able to detect energy of the pilot, goku must travel millions of light-years distance just to even reach the cockpits destination (goku must know where the location he wants to go is to teleport as it says in the anime himself). Looking for the pilot in the TTGL mecha is like looking for a specific atom in the human body
Not to mention that Simon at the end of the movie OUTSIDE Lagann > STTGL.
***** exactly people keep forgetting that part
Not fanboying nor do I actually care about this "dispute" but instant transmission is where he senses someone's or thing's energy and "instantly" teleports there so if he did find the pilots energy he wouldn't take forever to get there since its a lightyears distance away. He would instantly be there no time wasted. I just wanted to clear that up for ya it annoys me when people don't get facts straight.
doesn't matter when your target is as strong as his robot...because spiral energy:P
↑that comment D:< my argument is invalid
GG WP lia Aisha (>_
Grand Zamboa never quite reached out of the pocket universe they were fighting in, and we all know that the scale within that pocket universe was SUPREMELY messed up (TTGL needing to open its mouth for Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann to exit it, my ass).
DBZ fans: But can they beat gok-
GL fans: shut it’s my turn *cough cough*
*But can they beat STTGL?*
short answer: no they won't be able to beat it
long answer: a lot of explanation
I know, but it's nice to have internal consistency anyway. And despite the whole "kick logic to the curb" attitude, TTGL actually has fairly good internal consistency.
Only on this anime comparison size using solar system scale 😂
Was waiting for the inevitable yo mamma joke at the end. Never came. Was pleasantly surprised.
Super Shenron of Dragon Ball Super would come in like...Move Bitch! Get Out Da Way!!!
no he wouldn't
+Tony Stuart Basically cause the size of the drill in STTGL he is about 528 billion light years that about 100 of our so call universe combine.
+hector camacho lopez oh yes, with much enthusiasm included!!!
+Extrama D. Arcobaleno i guess in this case...size matters!
Tony Stuart I don't really know shenron that has no wish limit (wondering if that includes asking for infinite more wishes or something like that) Also I can't really tell since both of them are gods at that level.
But when we see the Gran Zamboa's hand hover over earth, we see a sample of it's true size.
Way too overpowered
please search demonbane then super tenga toppa gurren lagann is actually smaller than that
+Jetfire48 Because its infinite.Which in all actually its impossible for it to be but hey whatever sounds cooler
STTGL's Giga Drill is the size of a multiverse, so it's comparable to Demonbane's size.
demonbane is still powerful sadly :/
Not in universe
The fact they could see the whole hand when it was close to hovering over earth kinda proves otherwise.
"..and as the two giga drills collided, kids, a new big bang occured and thus our universe was born.."
Amon Morgul I knew it!
I thought it was my mum falling on her ass
I love how half of the video is just scaling up to a size comparable to Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann.
I can see goku standing a chance against a chance against the super galaxy gurren lagann. But there is no way that he could beat the TTGL, let alone the STTGL...
He should be able to destroy Galaxy GL easily. It's only moon sized whereas Goku can bust planets.
But galaxy can space time continuum bust......
MrSynchron1 goku can yell a hole between demensions
No, buu can..... And that's not comparable to breaking the space time continuum
Anyone SSJ 3 level and above can.
Everything up to arc gurren lagann was probably made, after that, it was just pure manliness.
Spoiler:
Has not one considered volume?
Density?
Nope.
"Negligible" you say.
Everyone here is wrong.
fucksake dude, Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann just never fails to look so badass.
something that would be able to beat saitama
if Simon Could charge long enough to get from AGL to SGGL, nevermind the plot convenience to go from SGGL to TTGL, and then again to go too STTGL
+Lightmagician60 I mean straight up sttgl vs Saitama. With out that whole evolution thing.
MrDARKNESSXSMASH
would be a awkward fight cause Saitama would be too small to see
Lightmagician60 i mean yeah but if you just target the solar system then he cant escape it in time to avoid that attack
+MrDARKNESSXSMASH but why attack the universe earth is in :/
He hasn't watched Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann and is probably wondering where such impossibly huge mechs were made.
Zarama isnt bigger, sttgl size is 58% of the universe.
Zarama can be seen through two universes.
STTGL's Giga Drill is the size of over a hundred universes.
In Dragon Ball Super, there are only 12 universes. This means the Dragon Ball Universe is way higher than a normal universe.
***** No, its not
Razor Edge you o he's the size of a universe. Those are galaxies
That's just in one field of view, take note that we don't know everything yet, we don't know what's beyond the rabbit hole at that point. We can only speculate and formulate ideas until we have the final picture. Hell, this is why we have science: to figure it out. Ideas can be shared, picked at, and played with until we have concrete evidence or observation to play with even further.
but can it stand One Punch Man's Punch?
sad at all but no :(
+Sora PL Actually it can. Saitama has no reality warping powers (so far, at least). Gurren Lagann has probability shield, so Saitama can't punch him.
BlaQ but every enemy real enemy Saitama ever got die at 1 punch and shield will not change anythink
Sora PL None of his enemies were reality warpers. Probability shield will result in Saitama not punching the robot so he'll do nothing to it no matter how hard he tries. So far all Saitama showed is his physical strength and resistance.
Pretty much a tie
I cant believe this is actually real. I thought it was a fever dream i had.
Where in the series is (1:29) That?!
im pritty sure its in the movie
Trexbob THERE'S A MOVIE!?!?!
yes well i think 2 but im not sure whats in them
Uriel Ventris Yeah there are 2 movies, Childhood's End wich is just the first part of the anime (when Simon is still a kid), and the lights in the sky are stars wich is the second part of the anime(when Simon is grown up) there is nothing new except for the Super Tengen Toppa Gurren Lagann
Eros Caputo are you kiddin? quite a bit of the ending changes... The end fight is WAAAAYYY more epic. Amongst other things.
they need to make sequel show how big can gurren laggan get
Fun fact: That's not the universe at the end, it's nothingness.
how could a 5 meter gurren lagann stop granzebomas universe size giga drill in the lagann hen movie?
I lol'd at the "Universe" frame. Now we know how big the universe is.
Oaah...those two are huge. Universal size... no one can beat those.
Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann is way bigger than Earth and the Moon. Arc-Gurren is made from the size replica of the Moon so it's about as big as it. In the episode where Super Galaxy Gurren Lagann makes it's first appearance Earth sized planets are thrown at it and look about the size of small rocks compared to it. So all three last forms are completely off scale.
Nothing is being pushed away from anything in the sense of real motion, for example imagine you and a friend chillin. neither of you are moving, yet the gap between you 2 is widening, nothing is pushing you 2 apart, but there's more space between you. The force behind it is called dark energy as we don't really know what it is, but it generates a pressure that expands space, and it accelerates because as space expands it becomes easier to expand, exactly opposite of a rubber band.
the Anti-Spiral has one bigass home-planet...
it's bigger than the friggin Sun AND the Milky Way!!! (because it's half the size of the head of Granzeboma (or Grand Zamboa)
this show is so over the top (universe-sized mecha and all that), it's so fcking badass
And this is coming from someone that's never heard of this before, and is learning this from an astronomy minor.
The spiral warriors made the mechs up unto cathedral terra (which is the biggest "natural" mech), the others (from the arc-gurren and above) are made by combining the lagann with them, they defy most laws of physics by creating mattery out of nowhere.