I’m still watching but I must say, the quote from Cartwright in the beginning is so relatable. When I left adventism I made a video about the "doctrinal" reasons why I was leaving. SDAs accused me of "just wanting to wear jewelry", "just wanting to eat Pork and be worldly". My entire family is SDA and my dad has been a preacher in this denomination for over 40years… I wasn’t thinking about eating pork., trust me. It was so silly to see a new face to Adventists that were always typically so "nice", now they were calling me an agent of Satan as I was sharing scriptures and explaining how God revealed the truth to me. After 28years of believing this was God’s church, God opened my eyes. We were like zealous Paul who persecuted Christians. Much courage to everyone finds the true gospel and decided to be bold and share it with SDAs, it’s not easy.
It’s interesting that you were accused of ‘wanting to eat pork or wearing jewelry’ as if those thing have any spiritual relevance in the new covenant. I do admire you for the bravery it took to exit Adventism. I pray for strength and for a community for you to support you .
A lot of respect for Pastor Chris who let go off his paycheck so that he can defend the Gospel of Jesus wish more SDA leaders could be honest to admit that their theology is wrong
I asked my sda friend what is the gospel. The response was: Jesus is coming soon. I said, that’s not the gospel, that’s not the good news. If you’re not saved, the fact that Jesus is coming soon is a bad news for you. Anyway, I have to say how much I love these kind of interviews. I love to hear how others left sda. It’s always a blessing.
@@life.after.adventism so sad.. however I am filled with joy.. because I have now seen the truth in God’s word. Again, EGW says if we reject her writings we will eventually reject the Bible.. again false… fear tactics and manipulation.. instead we witness Chris cleaving to The Word! Also, evidence in my own family.. we keep getting closer to Jesus by daily Bible study.
This was such a great interview! I am so proud of Chris for being willing to share his story and I pray that it touches the heart of those who are searching and looking and struggling with the fear, leaving all that they know behind for the One who is everything. And as a social worker I really, really appreciate that he’s taking the next step to, bring counseling to those who have been scarred by the evil system of the SDA institution. I also pray that his ministry is blessed and reaches many.
Thank our wonderful Lord that Chris so it for it was. There is no born again experience in the SDA church. I pray for these beautiful people to get out from this cult.
I have to listen still but want to comment that it takes tremendous courage to speak out.. while in the Adventist bubble it’s seen as slander and apostasy and coming after the brethren.. the truth is that for many that leave they face distancing, accusations and severed relationships of a large scale especially if you’ve gone to mostly Adventists schools and most if not your entire social network and family is Adventists. Word to the wise.. consider dear Adventist what he’s saying.. pray and diligently study the Word. If it wasn’t for a close relative of mine that showed me clear scripture and the enormous times EGW Contradicted the Bible I would’ve never seen the truth. 🙏🏽
The truth will set you free! Those who truly love and and follow Jesus Christ will accept the True Gospel as preached by Paul. I pray that SDAs would put cognitive dissonance aside and study the Bible objectively with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. What an inspiring and timely presentation. May God bless you both 🙏
Why has everything Chris said about what lead him to start questioning Adventism is what has opened the door for me as well?!!!! For me it’s many conversations with my late father in law, the book of Romans, but really, the whole New Testament, and the podcast with the Perry’s that is starting to open my eyes.
Because The Spirit of ABBA GOD is not in SDA, I can count on 1 hand the number of SDA’s I have known that actually have relationship with JESUS ! I heard more Ellen White say’s than I heard Bible, they would quote Patriarch’s and Prophets - The Great Controversy, Steps To Christ, Testimonies to the Church, Early Writings and have raging arguments about who was right 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5 24 this verse is the one that sealed the deal for me. This proves SDAs wrong on so many points.
Great video as usual. It's always great to have guests. It really shows that SDA do have extra biblical influence. Someone I know who is SDA and told me there is a movement of people who want "less" of Ellen White as she was listening to a sermon that relied heavily on her. I tried to explain to her that the people that uphold her wrtings are the ones that are in line with SDA thgeology and that removing EGW is losing the proof that they are the remnant church. SDA theolofgy is very heavy. I visited an evangelical church and when I read their confession of faith, it was very simple with only a few articles,with I agree with. To be SDA is to believe the 28 complicated fundamental beliefs.
The first red flag for me was the sabbath will be the seal of God and Sunday worship will be the mark of the beast and I said voetsek I need to test EGW And I ran from this cult
Just started watching. And it's already just been so cathartic--which is weird because I've been out since 2001. Specifically, it was your comments about "basking" in the gospel in your intro. Arthur and I were battling so furiously when we left with Adventism that we never got to sit down and bask in the glory of CHRIST winning the battle for us! We need to celebrate and bask in this glory and yet so many of our family and friends are telling us we're hell bound and have given up the truth that it's very difficult. Then next the quote by (shoot, can't remember his name.... Ballanger?) Anyway, I've read his book before but just focusing on that quote of the pain of leaving is so very true. It seems more true now looking back, than when we first came out. We have a higher place to look back and see how true that was. Also, I have met Adventists who left because of someone hurting them, but they return quickly when they are reconciled.
Out over 10 years now and I'm still ask '' who hurt you? " and when I say EGW, I always get the deer in the headlights look. I read everything! she wrote and man! was it eye opening, meat eating is a sin, coffee drinking (that they serve in their hospitals) is a sin, forgetfulness is a sin, you lose favor with God if you keep a dirty house, wearing wig will drive you crazy and on and on, claiming this is all from God. I tell those that ask that, I grew a brain and started thinking and reading the Bible with the help of the Holy Spirit. NOW!!!!!! I'm saved.
Agree! How about the procedures they do in their hospitals to un alive babies! I worked in a catholic hospital and they refused to allow that! SDA hypocrisy! Glad you got out.
When you have a close relationship with God as she did have, your conscience will also be iron clad like hers, and you will see many things wrong, in which you didn't before. Her writings are truly inspirational and when you are a hypocrite and don't love the lord you will despise people that do keep the law and hate only sin, not the sinner. This is evident in all ages and will only continue to get worse as we approach the last days of this earth. Today Coffee is Weed and tea is alcohol, and there are those who say we can have a little as followers of Jesus, but this is the Devils foot hold. It is just a much stronger stimulant but can have similar longterm effects on the body, which is was brought at a high price and is not ours. This only speaks about denying self, and why the path to glory is Narrow, not many will be saved.
davidbaran1591 You really believe what you just wrote? Pleas provide biblical evidence that coffee and tea are sinful to consume. And even better please provide biblical evidence alcohol is sinful to consume in moderation.
Adventists have to literally skip over clear scripture to maintain their stances on sabbath, salvation by grace and food laws It’s like they cover their ears and yell ‘lalalala’ when you read these scriptures to them. It’s amazing how an otherwise intelligent person can get theology so wrong.
To SDA or their cousins: Ellen > Jesus. Or Taze Russel > Jesus or Joe Smith > Jesus. If they would read the Bible without the influence of those apostate false prophets, they would understand it.
What clear Scripture are you talking about? You have clear scripture over God's grace giving permission to break God's commandments? Let's see these "clear" verses. Food laws?
Well said! It's funny (but sad at the same time) how adherents to Sadventism can demand to see the clear Scripture, yet when it is presented to them, they twist themselves into pretzels trying to explain the plain truth away. For example just a couple of the Scriptures that anyone who is both literate and has one shred of honesty would confirm completely abolish dietary restrictions for anyone who follows Christ are: "So He said to them, 'Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?'" (Mark 7:18-19) "Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand. One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; [a]and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks." (Romans 14:1-6) I'm sure Sadventists (including the ones in this comment thread, if they bother to respond at all) will try to explain these Biblical proofs away so they can continue feeling as if they are better than real Christians and feeling as if they are justified in slandering real Christians. Any non-Sadventist, though, will see the truth and avoid the trap!
@DamonNomad82 If you are dying to eat bacon and ribs that is on you. God said don't it because it is unhealthy. It eats crap and you eat it. You are what you eat... Not healthy. Not a salvation issue in my mind, just disobedience. I am saying, did Christ's death on the cross grant you permission to sin? Keeping the commandments of God out of love makes me a "SADventist"? I don't see it that way and the Bible tells me, neither does God, in fact the opposite. This group is toxic and evil.
At the 1:00 mark Myles’ comment about grace is worth the price of admission. Myles is teaching about the Adventist language barrier, and their definition of terms. Myles says Adventists view grace as an enabling force. Here is Ellen from The Great Controversy page 425: “ Through the grace of God and their own diligent efforts they must become conquers in the battle with evil.” So much is talked about ( Myles is a firehose of info) this gem can be overlooked. Is there any more previous concept in Christianity than grace? Adventists can’t even get grace. My understanding is grace is simply undeserved favor. If you have a more in-depth definition please share it.
When I was 17 and a new Christian and a firebrand, I had a job delivering pizza . Every Saturday night a white bus would stop to fill up at a gas station across the way from the pizza shop where I worked. It was the ‘ Moonie “ bus headed north to Boonville California. The pizza shop was 40 miles north of San Francisco where the Moonie cult leaders captured runaway young people. The Moonies love bombed the captives who were starved for love. The leaders hated me because I tried to get the teenagers off the bus. I preached the gospel message to the literal captives on the bus. I never was successful getting even one person to get off the bus and not continue north to the Moonie cult compound. Chris was love bombed by non Christian demonic cultists - Adventists.
The only real difference between Moonies and Sadventists is that the Moonies were founded about a century later on the opposite side of the world. The end result of being either one is about the same...
1:50:33 EGW PP stating Abraham passed through the cut animals??? Another Bible contradiction 🤯 ABRAHAM WAS ASLEEP biblically. God alone passed through the cut animals as an indication of his faithfulness in the covenant he did with Abraham.. good grief! No wonder in Adventism we don’t understand covenant theology someone literally needs to comb through her “prophetic” writings to see how many times she places man to work with God’s work for salvation.. this presentation is so insightful. I pray our ministers listen. That appeal at the end from Chris was 🔥 I can see the hurt in his eyes and the burden for fellow Adventists. God bless you brother!
Correct, she did. “The Lord condescended to enter into a covenant with His servant, employing such forms as were customary among men for the ratification of a solemn engagement. By divine direction, Abraham sacrificed a heifer, a she-goat, and a ram, each three years old, dividing the bodies and laying the pieces a little distance apart. To these he added a turtledove and a young pigeon, which, however, were not divided. This being done, he reverently passed between the parts of the sacrifice, making a solemn vow to God of perpetual obedience. Watchful and steadfast, he remained beside the carcasses till the going down of the sun, to guard them from being defiled or devoured by birds of prey. About sunset he sank into a deep sleep; and, “lo, a horror of great darkness fell upon him.”-Patriarchs and Prophets, pg. 137 (PP 137.1) She has him sleeping AFTER passing through the cut animal which contradicts scripture. May God wake up many Seventh-day Adventists.
@@answeringadventism amen! Thanks for what you’re doing Myles. We want truth, my family and I, more than friends, relationships, money and anything else. Thank you Chris how you said don’t be afraid.. follow Jesus! Follow what his word says. God bless you brothers.
@@answeringadventismsheesh what a quote🤦🏻♂️ this has to be one of the most subtle and therefore one of the most evil twists I’ve ever seen her put on scripture.
Can I explain? We can both agree that the Bible does not contain every detail that occurred, but we can use other texts to fill in the blanks. Looking at Jeremiah 34:18-19 we see that the covenant ceremony required everyone participating in the covenant to pass through the cuts. So it is safe to assume that although it wasn't mentioned Abraham did indeed pass through the cuts. But you might say, "No, the Bible only mentioned Jehovah passing through the cuts as a symbol of only God being under obligation, and not Abraham", but that is simply not true. It would be necessary for Abraham to pass through the cuts since he was promising obedience to God. The first covenant found in Genesis 12:1-3 required him to leave his country (obedience), he also had to follow the command of circumcision (obedience), and he also was tested by the attempted sacrifice of his son (obedience). So although God was making a covenant with Abraham, Abraham was also making a covenant of obedience to God. Which is why James 2:20-22 says that Abraham was justified by faith + works. So in summary, EGW is not wrong, because based on Jeremiah 34:18-19 Abraham did pass through the cuts first (God first requires consecration from us, before He delivers on His eternal promises), and by showing his act of obedience God followed and also passed through the cuts. Love you all, let's keep reading our Bibles!
@ I appreciate you taking the time to voice your perspective. But the Bible is clear. Only God passed thru the pieces. The Covenant was unilateral; just like the New Covenant. This is in start contrast to the Sinai Covenant which was clearly bi-lateral. Ellen added to the text (per usual) and her additions completely change the meaning of the story (also per usual). If this was a one off I could look passed it, but this is Ellen’s typical M.O.
Check out the William Johnson and Walter Martin debate from the Ankerberg show and see how they went after pastors just asking questions. Also, look at the comments there and here and you will find Cainright was absolutely spot on.
@@Donatello-b4x Just watched this, thanks. Interesting how the SDA fellow's voice kept getting higher & more hysterical (not making fun - just saying he was obviously stressed out). Also Interesting that Dr. Martin used stats to show the explosive growth of SDAism BECAUSE EVANGELICALS have extended the "open hand of fellowship" to them 😔
@kimartist When Johnson couldn't answer if he was saved or not, you could see him calculating in his mind his sins versus works in the spectrum of the investigative judgment. What kind of Gospel message is all of that legalism?
1:41:15 Bingo!! I’ve said this same thing while reviewing the matter of the seal.. like hello what are we saying! Is the sabbath a greater seal than the Holy Spirit. Even if, for arguments sake, both were the seal; which seal would be the one we should encourage ppl to be in; the seal of the Holy Spirit, or the Sabbath. Keeping in mind that if the Sabbath is the seal than our salvation is definitely works based, if you’re not keeping the 7th day sabbath than you cannot be sealed; regardless of your faith in the finished work of our Messiah.
In my observations, it appears that many, many SDAs consider "defectors" The Enemy, especially if they are not able to shame or scare the Wandering Lambs back in short order. Some exceptions are a few sane friends and some relatives.
Your observations are correct! That isn't unique to Sadventists, though. Mormons, JWs and many other "Sadventist adjacent" groups feel the same way about "defectors" from their groups. Some individuals even within legitimate churches feel the same way about those who leave their churches.
I was an ordained elder when I left and had dozens of friends in the SDA church, NONE! of them will even speak to me now. I have even heard that they tell others I joined satan. Kinda sad but I'm right with God and that's what counts.
In the book of James, I believe he wasn’t talking about working as rituals. I believe he was talking about working the faith. Peter worked his faith when he walked on water. The widow, she worked her faith when she was pouring the oil. Working the faith , not working rituals.
This is so great. I really enjoy listening to so many Adventists and former Adventists because they help me better understand how to show Adventists Christ. Since I don't really have anyone to speak with about this, I will kinda work things out in my head in comments, hoping that God will send someone to correct me if I'm wrong or anyone who just likes to talk about these things. So, you asked Christopher if he believes Adventism is a Christian church. While to me, a much more important question is: who gets to assign what is Christian and what is not? I personally don't think we should ever have opinions about that. God's opinion is the only one that matters and anything we say is just a guess, and I'm not sure we are supposed to be guessing about what denomination is or is not Christian. Having written that, I do think we can safely say that some SDA doctrines fall in line with historic Christianity. And some are so far out there that they can be said to be heretical, false and antichrist. While Adventists can be saved within Adventism, God is saving them DESPITE Adventism, not because of it. And actually, while that may sound harsh, that should make us love Christ even more, that while we were sinners (and I'm assuming that category includes heretics), He saved us. But that doesn't take the responsibility from us to move away from heretical and anti-Christian views.
Great video. My experience in various non-SDA churches is that everyone needs to read the Bible in context. In my experience, different churches are off in different ways. Just as the understanding of the seal of God affected many things, one's understanding of salvation and the gospel affects understanding of the Old and New Testament.
@@BillTony2 this is true, no one is immune from mishandling the Bible. The problem for the SDA church, though, is their outlandish and grandiose claims regarding having a monopoly on the gospel and truth. Protestants are not making such claims.
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church in 33AD. It is attacked precisely because it is the one true church. It never attacks other churches or religions. With the authority Jesus conferred on it, and with divine guidance from the Holy Spirit who revealed ONE truth, the Catholic Church assembled the Bible over centuries and canonised it in 382AD. This is the same divine authority it has its sole interpreter for Christian doctrine. Many Protestants promote falsehoods about the 2,000 year old Catholic Church. When they learn the truth and discover a relationship with Christ closer and more beautiful than anything they had experienced before, they convert. Teachings from Jesus and the apostles passed on and documented by the early church including those who knew the apostles and were taught by them in the 1st century. Not a modern misinterpretation. 2,000 years of wisdom and truth.
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church in 33AD. It is attacked precisely because it is the one true church. It never attacks other churches or religions. With the authority Jesus conferred on it, and with divine guidance from the Holy Spirit who revealed ONE truth, the Catholic Church assembled the Bible over centuries and canonised it in 382AD. This is the same divine authority it has its sole interpreter for Christian doctrine. Many Protestants promote falsehoods about the 2,000 year old Catholic Church. When they learn the truth and discover a relationship with Christ beautiful than anything they had experienced before, they convert. Teachings from Jesus and the apostles passed on and documented by the early church including those who were taught by the apostles in the 1st century. Not a modern misinterpretation. 2,000 years of wisdom and truth.
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church in 33AD. It is attacked precisely because it is the one true church. It never attacks other churches or religions. With the authority Jesus conferred on it, and with divine guidance from the Holy Spirit who revealed ONE truth, the Catholic Church assembled the Bible over centuries and canonised it in 382AD. This is the same divine authority it has its sole interpreter for Christian doctrine.
Many Protestants promote falsehoods about or misunderstand the 2,000 year old Catholic Church. When they learn the truth and discover a relationship with Christ beautiful than anything they had experienced before, they convert. Teachings from Jesus and the apostles passed on and documented by the early church including those who were taught by the apostles in the 1st century. Not a modern misinterpretation. 2,000 years of wisdom and truth.
Hello Myles I would appreciate if you could do an explanation of the book of Daniel and revelation Because what I see is you doing is refuting SDA's interpretation but you don't give a specific explanation for those books
I think she might have something in the many posts about Danial and Revelation. But the question is interesting. I noticed Adventists focus so much on Daniel and Revelation they miss the truth of the other 64 books of the Bible.
@@charnelallan7159The Bible never has nit content. Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
SDA here @1:09:24 he says "You tell me, if I'm misrepresenting." Then he cites our statement of confidence which reads... "Rather than replacing the Bible, they uplift the normative character of Scripture and correct inaccurate interpretations of it derived from tradition, human reason, personal experience, and modern culture... a combined study of the Bible and her writings provide a transforming and faith-uplifting experience." Now as he was reading this, he stressed the words "a combined study". After reading that he says..."so folks catch everything that's in their... you won't understand the normative character of what the bible is saying, without her writings." This is the misrepresentation we are talking about. This cited source does not claim that one needs EGW's writings to understand the "normative character" of what the bible is saying. Rather, her writings "uplift" the normative character. Yes, we believe a "combined study" of her wrinings and the Word can provide a transfornativw experience but we are not saying this is necessary. EGW makes it clear herself that her writings are not needed for ones salvation; And SDA's certainly do not claim you need her writings to understand the bible. EGW also often talked to individuals or groups and showed them their true position in regards to her writings and certainly did not express her words to be meant for everyone. But many of those statements are taken out of context and misreresented also. So you see folks this is how deception works. One cannot even see their deceptions and misrepresentations even after it is pointed out to them. I hope many of you here can see it.
The sabbath is only part of the law, it was also established at creation, for the sole purpose to acknowledge our God as our creator. Jesus did not do his own will but was a perfect reflection of God his father. The law by which the whole universe is under, was reflected by the life of Jesus on this earth. Without law creation does not exist. Who in Gods name says the Seal of God is the sabbath in SDA, I have never heard this? The seal of God for people alive during the last day movement are the ones that Keep the law of God and have his testimony. Just look at the history of the Israelites when they did not keep the law. They were in keep in bondage by their enemies and did not have power to overcome without God. You do not have to read EGW to see these simple truths. I thought that this was going to be about trinity doctrine, and how this is not biblical at all. I will pray that the truth will be show to you, not through controversy but through simple biblical truths and reasoning. To deny the sabbath is to deny God the creator.
@@davidbaran1591 you claim we don’t need Ellen White to see these “simple truths” yet you literally parroted her claims and not the Bible. Nowhere does the Bible say the sabbath was set up for the “sole purpose of acknowledging God as our creator.” Nowhere does the Bible say the “whole universe” is under the law. Your guys silly Idea that angels are bound to the 10 commandments when angels don’t have parents and they aren’t given in marriage is all one has to understand to realize your prophetess was off her rocker. It’s amazing what you guys think are “simple” and obvious truths yet without your extra biblical great controversy worldview, one is able to clearly see the errors in your assertions.
24 mins in and there have been 4 commercials already! Good grief! Way too many commercials for a two and a half hour video. Absolutely love your stuff brother but way too many commercials
@@answeringadventism Gotchya. It just seems like some channels seem to have way more commercials than others. I listen to lots of 2-4 hr videos all the time and it seems like there are way more commercials on your channel than on others. Sorry to complain. Thanks for all you do Miles. I’ve learned so much from all your videos and you’re a blessing to the Body. God bless you brother
Faith, hope and love make a whole. They work together as components of one unit, and they abide forever, that is they will always stay that way. Take away one component and the unit breaks down and stops working or will work inefficiently. Without faith it is impossible to please God. But what is faith? faith is to be sure of things hoped for and faith is expressed through love. These three are interconnected. They are individually members of each other just like in the body of Christ we also are individually members of each other although we have our own individual characteristics. But the greater of the three is love which reminds me a bit of God the Father being the greater in spite of being one with the Son and the Holy Spirit. Philippians 4:20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it, we await a savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. He will change our lowly body to conform with his glorified body by the power that enables him also to bring all things under subjection to himself. I think that verse shows a view on the phase of eschatological salvation.
It's a big mystery, like people who have known Biblical truth, they read The Great Controversy, to set aside clear teachings and the Spirit of Prophecy and adopt the heresies of those inspired by Satan? It seems that a part of their mind has darkened, and they no longer see how everything they knew before, were so grounded, that today they are being fulfilled exactly. The prophecies concerning America, Rome, Israel……… how dramatically they perish before our eyes, are seen as a prosperous future for a world that does not seem to have the Bible as a guide.! I think that something similar to the sin against the Holy Spirit, blinds them from seeing the world we live in! „ But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.” (2 Corinthians 4,3-4)
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below? Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary? What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary. God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9. If the New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20 and the Old Covenant is "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13, why would any Christian believe God is going back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period? What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below. Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him. He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth. Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah: Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD: Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis? Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart. Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36) We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24. 1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight. 1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment. 1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us. The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant. Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more. Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost. Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you. Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost. 1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit. 1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him. Watch the TH-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Myles..... James from advent media connect has been hitting this guy hard ..... I'll put a video link about the sanctuary argument so you have an idea. th-cam.com/video/BZfYz_o6kZY/w-d-xo.htmlsi=uTTU8hhf_KMUkppD
Just like a human government traffic law has a fine connected with the over speeding law to show drivers that they will break the speed law sooner or later, so was the Ten Commandments. In Exodus 20:25-26 God commanded for Moses to make an altar to offer the required offerings, meaning that sooner or later the people will break the commandments thus they have to pay with their offerings. Moreover God required that the altar be made of natural stones and not hewn stones to indicate that only what God has created will be accepted as a picture of God's grace in order for sinners to be counted right with God.
@@tony1685 lol and neither do you considering you think Protestantism is simply “protesting the Roman Catholic Church.” You guys aren’t even Protestant, Tony. I’ve done so much content on this. You guys are the fruit of the radical reformation, not the Protestant reformation. Your own scholars are on record stating this. Go check your homework again. “North American Protestantism of the nineteenth century was a child of the sixteenth-century Reformation. Many Adventists are aware of that fact but have mistakenly concluded that their church is an heir of those branches of the Reformation initiated by Martin Luther, John Calvin, or Ulrich Zwingli. While it is true that Adventist’s concept of salvation by grace through faith came through the mainline Reformers, the theological orientation of Adventism really finds itself most at home with what church historians call the Radical Reformation or the Anabaptists.”-GEORGE KNIGHT, SEARCH FOR IDENTITY: THE DEVELOPMENT OF SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST BELIEFS, PG. 30 He’s talking about people like you, Tony 😅
Neither does SDA PuBlic Affairs director Diop meeting with the Pope. Remember, the Papacy has changed and he is just another man. Or is he another Jesuit?
Guests are afforded as much time as they’d like to speak prior to, as the host, segueing the conversation through pre approved show notes/itinerary. This stream was no different. Based on what the guest says, sometimes it’s pertinent to speak into some of that before then transitioning.
2 Peter 2:22 BUT it is happened unto them according to the True proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the Saw that was washed to her wallowing in the mire" And both of them eat the meats of This animals welcome back home 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Thank you for being a comedic parody of Sadventism. The only reason Myles doesn't ban you from commenting is that you actually HELP his cause by being so goofy and over-the-top that you make his case for him! A sincere spiritual seeker reading your comments would quickly realize "If the SDAs are like THAT guy, I want nothing to do with them!" If a sincere Sadventist wondering "what if I've been wrong all this time?" reads your comments, he/she will realize "now I KNOW I've been wrong all this time! I need to find a real church fast!" and leave Sadventism!
what does that verse have to do with the topics discussed in the video. and what is amazing to me is how utterly unaware you are of the mistakes in the in the teachings of Ellen White or the SDA Organization. I remember when I was a child told not to listen to people like Myles. and I faithfully obeyed that warning. I now understand why the SDA leadership is so worried of these kind of people. every time SDA's start listening to these kind of folks who that the SDA organization for theological reasons they start losing members.
And we could never join a movement that has a false gospel that’s cursed by God. Belief about the condition of Hell and the nature of the soul doesn’t even come close to as important as having a false gospel. Being wrong about the gospel will damn you. Being wrong about the hell and the soul will not.
@ we believe that the millennium is for the world of mankind to come to God. The world is not being called by God right now. He has only sent his spirit into the world to find the bride for his son who will remain in the millennium. Have you ask yourself what happens to those who died before Christ? What about those who have never heard? What about the 10-year-old that just died?
considering how wrong the SDA organization is about so many issues, and for that matter Ellen White. it would be wise to examine all of the things we have been taught by SDA leaders. seek and follow after Christ who is the truth. who cares where we end up as long as it is closer and closer to the Truth, Christ our Lord
Good day Myles My name is Derrick, I'm from South Africa and have been following the work you do for some time, I'm even a member of your channel. I would like to discuss with an Adventist regarding prophecy. I'm noticing that that's one of the area people barely touch and many adventists seem to think that maybe they could be wrong about everything else but on prophecy they are spot on. I understand the need to focus on the fundamentals but I think this is also another area that needs to be explored. If you are open to it, I would like to have a discussion with an Adventist on your channel about prophecy, day to a year principle, 2300 days, 538AS, 1798AD, 457AD etc. If there is an Adventist out there interested in having such a discussion please let's do it. Kind regards Sorry, tried emailing but my email keeps bouncing
Abso Abso Absolutely. What deceives them most is their delusions on precise prophecy interpretation. But reading other scholars on Daniel and Revelation, i soon saw that their historicists method is so wack
@@hosannajoy2531So what is the correct interpretation? I haven’t seen anything wrong with their interpretation of the 2 Beasts. Many non SDAs believe the exact same thing. Speak if you have the true interpretation.
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I’m still watching but I must say, the quote from Cartwright in the beginning is so relatable. When I left adventism I made a video about the "doctrinal" reasons why I was leaving.
SDAs accused me of "just wanting to wear jewelry", "just wanting to eat Pork and be worldly". My entire family is SDA and my dad has been a preacher in this denomination for over 40years… I wasn’t thinking about eating pork., trust me. It was so silly to see a new face to Adventists that were always typically so "nice", now they were calling me an agent of Satan as I was sharing scriptures and explaining how God revealed the truth to me.
After 28years of believing this was God’s church, God opened my eyes. We were like zealous Paul who persecuted Christians. Much courage to everyone finds the true gospel and decided to be bold and share it with SDAs, it’s not easy.
It’s interesting that you were accused of ‘wanting to eat pork or wearing jewelry’ as if those thing have any spiritual relevance in the new covenant.
I do admire you for the bravery it took to exit Adventism.
I pray for strength and for a community for you to support you .
A lot of respect for Pastor Chris who let go off his paycheck so that he can defend the Gospel of Jesus wish more SDA leaders could be honest to admit that their theology is wrong
God bless you Chris and Myles. Many are waking up. Come out of her (Adventist) my people.
Welcome to the family of God Christopher, been out since 2020 so much respect for you.
We get criticism for following Christ alone.
This is a breath of fresh air…
What a great presentation.
God is working!
I asked my sda friend what is the gospel. The response was: Jesus is coming soon. I said, that’s not the gospel, that’s not the good news. If you’re not saved, the fact that Jesus is coming soon is a bad news for you.
Anyway, I have to say how much I love these kind of interviews. I love to hear how others left sda. It’s always a blessing.
This is crazy… this is exactly what I would have said years ago. 😔
@@life.after.adventism so sad.. however I am filled with joy.. because I have now seen the truth in God’s word. Again, EGW says if we reject her writings we will eventually reject the Bible.. again false… fear tactics and manipulation.. instead we witness Chris cleaving to The Word! Also, evidence in my own family.. we keep getting closer to Jesus by daily Bible study.
This was such a great interview! I am so proud of Chris for being willing to share his story and I pray that it touches the heart of those who are searching and looking and struggling with the fear, leaving all that they know behind for the One who is everything. And as a social worker I really, really appreciate that he’s taking the next step to, bring counseling to those who have been scarred by the evil system of the SDA institution. I also pray that his ministry is blessed and reaches many.
This was such a blessing to watch. God bless you both and welcome home Chris!
Thank our wonderful Lord that Chris so it for it was. There is no born again experience in the SDA church.
I pray for these beautiful people to get out from this cult.
Thank you Both! This was such a renewing of spirit presentation brothers! May the Lord continue to bless you both🙏🏽
Thanks to both of you Guys! 🕊️🙏🕊️
I have to listen still but want to comment that it takes tremendous courage to speak out.. while in the Adventist bubble it’s seen as slander and apostasy and coming after the brethren.. the truth is that for many that leave they face distancing, accusations and severed relationships of a large scale especially if you’ve gone to mostly Adventists schools and most if not your entire social network and family is Adventists. Word to the wise.. consider dear Adventist what he’s saying.. pray and diligently study the Word. If it wasn’t for a close relative of mine that showed me clear scripture and the enormous times EGW Contradicted the Bible I would’ve never seen the truth. 🙏🏽
Wonderful! And as others have duly noted...much respect to Chris.
Thank you for this video. It gives me hope that the Adventists in my family can have their eyes open.
Only people that hear His Voice will come out…His sheep hear His Voice
@@jimijames7703 only people who don't keep God's commandments can hear Satan's voice
Ur a modern day pharisee@okwijames947
@okwijames947 Sir RIGHTEOUSNESS IS APART FROM LAW KERPING
SDA responses are so robotic.
It’s like they are drones repeating the same 3 topics. sabbath, commandments, Ellen.
@@okwijames947 then there’s a LOT of seventh day adventists listening to satan
The truth will set you free! Those who truly love and and follow Jesus Christ will accept the True Gospel as preached by Paul. I pray that SDAs would put cognitive dissonance aside and study the Bible objectively with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. What an inspiring and timely presentation. May God bless you both 🙏
Why has everything Chris said about what lead him to start questioning Adventism is what has opened the door for me as well?!!!! For me it’s many conversations with my late father in law, the book of Romans, but really, the whole New Testament, and the podcast with the Perry’s that is starting to open my eyes.
For me it was the book of Galatians!
The Holy Spirit is leading you ❤ let Him lead you to the true Jesus and His gospel. God bless
Because The Spirit of ABBA GOD is not in SDA, I can count on 1 hand the number of SDA’s I have known that actually have relationship with JESUS ! I heard more Ellen White say’s than I heard Bible, they would quote Patriarch’s and Prophets - The Great Controversy, Steps To Christ, Testimonies to the Church, Early Writings and have raging arguments about who was right 🤦🏼♂️🤦🏼♂️
What an amazing story 😭😭😭😭
Very truly I tell you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life and will not be judged but has crossed over from death to life. John 5 24 this verse is the one that sealed the deal for me. This proves SDAs wrong on so many points.
Great video as usual. It's always great to have guests. It really shows that SDA do have extra biblical influence. Someone I know who is SDA and told me there is a movement of people who want "less" of Ellen White as she was listening to a sermon that relied heavily on her. I tried to explain to her that the people that uphold her wrtings are the ones that are in line with SDA thgeology and that removing EGW is losing the proof that they are the remnant church. SDA theolofgy is very heavy.
I visited an evangelical church and when I read their confession of faith, it was very simple with only a few articles,with I agree with. To be SDA is to believe the 28 complicated fundamental beliefs.
The first red flag for me was the sabbath will be the seal of God and Sunday worship will be the mark of the beast and I said voetsek I need to test EGW And I ran from this cult
Just started watching. And it's already just been so cathartic--which is weird because I've been out since 2001. Specifically, it was your comments about "basking" in the gospel in your intro. Arthur and I were battling so furiously when we left with Adventism that we never got to sit down and bask in the glory of CHRIST winning the battle for us! We need to celebrate and bask in this glory and yet so many of our family and friends are telling us we're hell bound and have given up the truth that it's very difficult. Then next the quote by (shoot, can't remember his name.... Ballanger?) Anyway, I've read his book before but just focusing on that quote of the pain of leaving is so very true. It seems more true now looking back, than when we first came out. We have a higher place to look back and see how true that was.
Also, I have met Adventists who left because of someone hurting them, but they return quickly when they are reconciled.
Such a bright young man.
Out over 10 years now and I'm still ask '' who hurt you? " and when I say EGW, I always get the deer in the headlights look. I read everything! she wrote and man! was it eye opening, meat eating is a sin, coffee drinking (that they serve in their hospitals) is a sin, forgetfulness is a sin, you lose favor with God if you keep a dirty house, wearing wig will drive you crazy and on and on, claiming this is all from God. I tell those that ask that, I grew a brain and started thinking and reading the Bible with the help of the Holy Spirit. NOW!!!!!! I'm saved.
Agree! How about the procedures they do in their hospitals to un alive babies! I worked in a catholic hospital and they refused to allow that! SDA hypocrisy! Glad you got out.
When you have a close relationship with God as she did have, your conscience will also be iron clad like hers, and you will see many things wrong, in which you didn't before. Her writings are truly inspirational and when you are a hypocrite and don't love the lord you will despise people that do keep the law and hate only sin, not the sinner. This is evident in all ages and will only continue to get worse as we approach the last days of this earth. Today Coffee is Weed and tea is alcohol, and there are those who say we can have a little as followers of Jesus, but this is the Devils foot hold. It is just a much stronger stimulant but can have similar longterm effects on the body, which is was brought at a high price and is not ours. This only speaks about denying self, and why the path to glory is Narrow, not many will be saved.
@@1971_happylifedogout of curiosity. What procedures are you talking about? Thanks in advance
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You really believe what you just wrote? Pleas provide biblical evidence that coffee and tea are sinful to consume.
And even better please provide biblical evidence alcohol is sinful to consume in moderation.
Adventists have to literally skip over clear scripture to maintain their stances on sabbath, salvation by grace and food laws
It’s like they cover their ears and yell ‘lalalala’ when you read these scriptures to them.
It’s amazing how an otherwise intelligent person can get theology so wrong.
yes even Jesus got it wrong right?
To SDA or their cousins: Ellen > Jesus. Or Taze Russel > Jesus or Joe Smith > Jesus.
If they would read the Bible without the influence of those apostate false prophets, they would understand it.
What clear Scripture are you talking about? You have clear scripture over God's grace giving permission to break God's commandments?
Let's see these "clear" verses.
Food laws?
Well said! It's funny (but sad at the same time) how adherents to Sadventism can demand to see the clear Scripture, yet when it is presented to them, they twist themselves into pretzels trying to explain the plain truth away. For example just a couple of the Scriptures that anyone who is both literate and has one shred of honesty would confirm completely abolish dietary restrictions for anyone who follows Christ are:
"So He said to them, 'Are you thus without understanding also? Do you not perceive that whatever enters a man from outside cannot defile him, because it does not enter his heart but his stomach, and is eliminated, thus purifying all foods?'" (Mark 7:18-19)
"Receive one who is weak in the faith, but not to disputes over doubtful things. For one believes he may eat all things, but he who is weak eats only vegetables. Let not him who eats despise him who does not eat, and let not him who does not eat judge him who eats; for God has received him. Who are you to judge another’s servant? To his own master he stands or falls. Indeed, he will be made to stand, for God is able to make him stand.
One person esteems one day above another; another esteems every day alike. Let each be fully convinced in his own mind. He who observes the day, observes it to the Lord; [a]and he who does not observe the day, to the Lord he does not observe it. He who eats, eats to the Lord, for he gives God thanks; and he who does not eat, to the Lord he does not eat, and gives God thanks." (Romans 14:1-6)
I'm sure Sadventists (including the ones in this comment thread, if they bother to respond at all) will try to explain these Biblical proofs away so they can continue feeling as if they are better than real Christians and feeling as if they are justified in slandering real Christians. Any non-Sadventist, though, will see the truth and avoid the trap!
@DamonNomad82 If you are dying to eat bacon and ribs that is on you.
God said don't it because it is unhealthy. It eats crap and you eat it. You are what you eat...
Not healthy. Not a salvation issue in my mind, just disobedience.
I am saying, did Christ's death on the cross grant you permission to sin?
Keeping the commandments of God out of love makes me a "SADventist"?
I don't see it that way and the Bible tells me, neither does God, in fact the opposite.
This group is toxic and evil.
At the 1:00 mark Myles’ comment about grace is worth the price of admission. Myles is teaching about the Adventist language barrier, and their definition of terms. Myles says Adventists view grace as an enabling force. Here is Ellen from
The Great Controversy page 425: “ Through the grace of God and their own diligent efforts they must become conquers in the battle with evil.” So much is talked about ( Myles is a firehose of info) this gem can be overlooked. Is there any more previous concept in Christianity than grace? Adventists can’t even get grace. My understanding is grace is simply undeserved favor. If you have a more in-depth definition please share it.
When I was 17 and a new Christian and a firebrand, I had a job delivering pizza . Every Saturday night a white bus would stop to fill up at a gas station across the way from the pizza shop where I worked. It was the ‘ Moonie “ bus headed north to Boonville California. The pizza shop was 40 miles north of San Francisco where the Moonie cult leaders captured runaway young people. The Moonies love bombed the captives who were starved for love. The leaders hated me because I tried to get the teenagers off the bus. I preached the gospel message to the literal captives on the bus. I never was successful getting even one person to get off the bus and not continue north to the Moonie cult compound. Chris was love bombed by non Christian demonic cultists - Adventists.
yes the demons are those that refuse to follow Christ and how He worshipped and taught
@@brmead3133Jesus kept the sabbath and taught keeping the commandments. Who is teaching the opposite here???
The only real difference between Moonies and Sadventists is that the Moonies were founded about a century later on the opposite side of the world. The end result of being either one is about the same...
Canright should have expected lies from the Children of the Father of Lies. ☠️🤥☠️
1:50:33 EGW PP stating Abraham passed through the cut animals??? Another Bible contradiction 🤯 ABRAHAM WAS ASLEEP biblically. God alone passed through the cut animals as an indication of his faithfulness in the covenant he did with Abraham.. good grief! No wonder in Adventism we don’t understand covenant theology someone literally needs to comb through her “prophetic” writings to see how many times she places man to work with God’s work for salvation.. this presentation is so insightful. I pray our ministers listen.
That appeal at the end from Chris was 🔥 I can see the hurt in his eyes and the burden for fellow Adventists. God bless you brother!
Correct, she did.
“The Lord condescended to enter into a covenant with His servant, employing such forms as were customary among men for the ratification of a solemn engagement. By divine direction, Abraham sacrificed a heifer, a she-goat, and a ram, each three years old, dividing the bodies and laying the pieces a little distance apart. To these he added a turtledove and a young pigeon, which, however, were not divided. This being done, he reverently passed between the parts of the sacrifice, making a solemn vow to God of perpetual obedience. Watchful and steadfast, he remained beside the carcasses till the going down of the sun, to guard them from being defiled or devoured by birds of prey. About sunset he sank into a deep sleep; and, “lo, a horror of great darkness fell upon him.”-Patriarchs and Prophets, pg. 137 (PP 137.1)
She has him sleeping AFTER passing through the cut animal which contradicts scripture.
May God wake up many Seventh-day Adventists.
@@answeringadventism amen! Thanks for what you’re doing Myles. We want truth, my family and I, more than friends, relationships, money and anything else. Thank you Chris how you said don’t be afraid.. follow Jesus! Follow what his word says. God bless you brothers.
@@answeringadventismsheesh what a quote🤦🏻♂️ this has to be one of the most subtle and therefore one of the most evil twists I’ve ever seen her put on scripture.
Can I explain? We can both agree that the Bible does not contain every detail that occurred, but we can use other texts to fill in the blanks. Looking at Jeremiah 34:18-19 we see that the covenant ceremony required everyone participating in the covenant to pass through the cuts. So it is safe to assume that although it wasn't mentioned Abraham did indeed pass through the cuts. But you might say, "No, the Bible only mentioned Jehovah passing through the cuts as a symbol of only God being under obligation, and not Abraham", but that is simply not true. It would be necessary for Abraham to pass through the cuts since he was promising obedience to God. The first covenant found in Genesis 12:1-3 required him to leave his country (obedience), he also had to follow the command of circumcision (obedience), and he also was tested by the attempted sacrifice of his son (obedience). So although God was making a covenant with Abraham, Abraham was also making a covenant of obedience to God. Which is why James 2:20-22 says that Abraham was justified by faith + works. So in summary, EGW is not wrong, because based on Jeremiah 34:18-19 Abraham did pass through the cuts first (God first requires consecration from us, before He delivers on His eternal promises), and by showing his act of obedience God followed and also passed through the cuts.
Love you all, let's keep reading our Bibles!
@ I appreciate you taking the time to voice your perspective. But the Bible is clear. Only God passed thru the pieces. The Covenant was unilateral; just like the New Covenant. This is in start contrast to the Sinai Covenant which was clearly bi-lateral. Ellen added to the text (per usual) and her additions completely change the meaning of the story (also per usual). If this was a one off I could look passed it, but this is Ellen’s typical M.O.
Check out the William Johnson and Walter Martin debate from the Ankerberg show and see how they went after pastors just asking questions. Also, look at the comments there and here and you will find Cainright was absolutely spot on.
Unfortunately the video is no longer available. I wish I had downloaded it when I had a chance. Do you know anyone with a copy?
@@Deconstructionist I watched it a couple of months ago on TH-cam.
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@@Donatello-b4x Just watched this, thanks. Interesting how the SDA fellow's voice kept getting higher & more hysterical (not making fun - just saying he was obviously stressed out). Also Interesting that Dr. Martin used stats to show the explosive growth of SDAism BECAUSE EVANGELICALS have extended the "open hand of fellowship" to them 😔
@kimartist When Johnson couldn't answer if he was saved or not, you could see him calculating in his mind his sins versus works in the spectrum of the investigative judgment. What kind of Gospel message is all of that legalism?
What about people that cant see that the words said by ellen white arent part of the bible , i striggle woth this with someone i love
1:41:15 Bingo!! I’ve said this same thing while reviewing the matter of the seal.. like hello what are we saying! Is the sabbath a greater seal than the Holy Spirit. Even if, for arguments sake, both were the seal; which seal would be the one we should encourage ppl to be in; the seal of the Holy Spirit, or the Sabbath. Keeping in mind that if the Sabbath is the seal than our salvation is definitely works based, if you’re not keeping the 7th day sabbath than you cannot be sealed; regardless of your faith in the finished work of our Messiah.
In my observations, it appears that many, many SDAs consider "defectors" The Enemy, especially if they are not able to shame or scare the Wandering Lambs back in short order. Some exceptions are a few sane friends and some relatives.
Your observations are correct! That isn't unique to Sadventists, though. Mormons, JWs and many other "Sadventist adjacent" groups feel the same way about "defectors" from their groups. Some individuals even within legitimate churches feel the same way about those who leave their churches.
I was an ordained elder when I left and had dozens of friends in the SDA church, NONE! of them will even speak to me now. I have even heard that they tell others I joined satan. Kinda sad but I'm right with God and that's what counts.
In the book of James, I believe he wasn’t talking about working as rituals. I believe he was talking about working the faith. Peter worked his faith when he walked on water. The widow, she worked her faith when she was pouring the oil. Working the faith , not working rituals.
This is so great. I really enjoy listening to so many Adventists and former Adventists because they help me better understand how to show Adventists Christ. Since I don't really have anyone to speak with about this, I will kinda work things out in my head in comments, hoping that God will send someone to correct me if I'm wrong or anyone who just likes to talk about these things. So, you asked Christopher if he believes Adventism is a Christian church. While to me, a much more important question is: who gets to assign what is Christian and what is not? I personally don't think we should ever have opinions about that. God's opinion is the only one that matters and anything we say is just a guess, and I'm not sure we are supposed to be guessing about what denomination is or is not Christian. Having written that, I do think we can safely say that some SDA doctrines fall in line with historic Christianity. And some are so far out there that they can be said to be heretical, false and antichrist. While Adventists can be saved within Adventism, God is saving them DESPITE Adventism, not because of it.
And actually, while that may sound harsh, that should make us love Christ even more, that while we were sinners (and I'm assuming that category includes heretics), He saved us. But that doesn't take the responsibility from us to move away from heretical and anti-Christian views.
Great video. My experience in various non-SDA churches is that everyone needs to read the Bible in context. In my experience, different churches are off in different ways. Just as the understanding of the seal of God affected many things, one's understanding of salvation and the gospel affects understanding of the Old and New Testament.
@@BillTony2 this is true, no one is immune from mishandling the Bible.
The problem for the SDA church, though, is their outlandish and grandiose claims regarding having a monopoly on the gospel and truth. Protestants are not making such claims.
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church in 33AD. It is attacked precisely because it is the one true church. It never attacks other churches or religions. With the authority Jesus conferred on it, and with divine guidance from the Holy Spirit who revealed ONE truth, the Catholic Church assembled the Bible over centuries and canonised it in 382AD. This is the same divine authority it has its sole interpreter for Christian doctrine. Many Protestants promote falsehoods about the 2,000 year old Catholic Church. When they learn the truth and discover a relationship with Christ closer and more beautiful than anything they had experienced before, they convert. Teachings from Jesus and the apostles passed on and documented by the early church including those who knew the apostles and were taught by them in the 1st century. Not a modern misinterpretation. 2,000 years of wisdom and truth.
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church in 33AD. It is attacked precisely because it is the one true church. It never attacks other churches or religions. With the authority Jesus conferred on it, and with divine guidance from the Holy Spirit who revealed ONE truth, the Catholic Church assembled the Bible over centuries and canonised it in 382AD. This is the same divine authority it has its sole interpreter for Christian doctrine. Many Protestants promote falsehoods about the 2,000 year old Catholic Church. When they learn the truth and discover a relationship with Christ beautiful than anything they had experienced before, they convert. Teachings from Jesus and the apostles passed on and documented by the early church including those who were taught by the apostles in the 1st century. Not a modern misinterpretation. 2,000 years of wisdom and truth.
Jesus Christ established the Catholic Church in 33AD. It is attacked precisely because it is the one true church. It never attacks other churches or religions. With the authority Jesus conferred on it, and with divine guidance from the Holy Spirit who revealed ONE truth, the Catholic Church assembled the Bible over centuries and canonised it in 382AD. This is the same divine authority it has its sole interpreter for Christian doctrine.
Many Protestants promote falsehoods about or misunderstand the 2,000 year old Catholic Church. When they learn the truth and discover a relationship with Christ beautiful than anything they had experienced before, they convert. Teachings from Jesus and the apostles passed on and documented by the early church including those who were taught by the apostles in the 1st century. Not a modern misinterpretation. 2,000 years of wisdom and truth.
Hello Myles - Can you post a "code-index" as to what it means when the little flags on your videos are in different places, please? Thanks.
Hello Myles
I would appreciate if you could do an explanation of the book of Daniel and revelation
Because what I see is you doing is refuting SDA's interpretation but you don't give a specific explanation for those books
Was this vidéo about Daniel and révélations? Or the gospel. Prophecy is nit the gospel
I think she might have something in the many posts about Danial and Revelation.
But the question is interesting. I noticed Adventists focus so much on Daniel and Revelation they miss the truth of the other 64 books of the Bible.
@@charnelallan7159 of course
But prophecy contains the gospel
I am not an SDA at all, never read EW, BUT they are absolutely right about the 2 beasts of revelation. Spot on.
@@charnelallan7159The Bible never has nit content.
Revelation 1:3 Blessed is he that readeth, and they that hear the words of this prophecy, and keep those things which are written therein: for the time is at hand.
SDA here
@1:09:24 he says "You tell me, if I'm misrepresenting."
Then he cites our statement of confidence which reads...
"Rather than replacing the Bible, they uplift the normative character of Scripture and correct inaccurate interpretations of it derived from tradition, human reason, personal experience, and modern culture... a combined study of the Bible and her writings provide a transforming and faith-uplifting experience."
Now as he was reading this, he stressed the words "a combined study". After reading that he says..."so folks catch everything that's in their... you won't understand the normative character of what the bible is saying, without her writings."
This is the misrepresentation we are talking about. This cited source does not claim that one needs EGW's writings to understand the "normative character" of what the bible is saying. Rather, her writings "uplift" the normative character. Yes, we believe a "combined study" of her wrinings and the Word can provide a transfornativw experience but we are not saying this is necessary.
EGW makes it clear herself that her writings are not needed for ones salvation; And SDA's certainly do not claim you need her writings to understand the bible. EGW also often talked to individuals or groups and showed them their true position in regards to her writings and certainly did not express her words to be meant for everyone. But many of those statements are taken out of context and misreresented also.
So you see folks this is how deception works. One cannot even see their deceptions and misrepresentations even after it is pointed out to them. I hope many of you here can see it.
Cool story bro.
The sabbath is only part of the law, it was also established at creation, for the sole purpose to acknowledge our God as our creator. Jesus did not do his own will but was a perfect reflection of God his father. The law by which the whole universe is under, was reflected by the life of Jesus on this earth. Without law creation does not exist. Who in Gods name says the Seal of God is the sabbath in SDA, I have never heard this? The seal of God for people alive during the last day movement are the ones that Keep the law of God and have his testimony. Just look at the history of the Israelites when they did not keep the law. They were in keep in bondage by their enemies and did not have power to overcome without God. You do not have to read EGW to see these simple truths. I thought that this was going to be about trinity doctrine, and how this is not biblical at all. I will pray that the truth will be show to you, not through controversy but through simple biblical truths and reasoning. To deny the sabbath is to deny God the creator.
@@davidbaran1591 you claim we don’t need Ellen White to see these “simple truths” yet you literally parroted her claims and not the Bible.
Nowhere does the Bible say the sabbath was set up for the “sole purpose of acknowledging God as our creator.”
Nowhere does the Bible say the “whole universe” is under the law. Your guys silly
Idea that angels are bound to the 10 commandments when angels don’t have parents and they aren’t given in marriage is all one has to understand to realize your prophetess was off her rocker.
It’s amazing what you guys think are “simple” and obvious truths yet without your extra biblical great controversy worldview, one is able to clearly see the errors in your assertions.
24 mins in and there have been 4 commercials already! Good grief! Way too many commercials for a two and a half hour video. Absolutely love your stuff brother but way too many commercials
@@BaronVonSzabo-id3ps TH-cam controls ad placement.
@@answeringadventism Gotchya. It just seems like some channels seem to have way more commercials than others. I listen to lots of 2-4 hr videos all the time and it seems like there are way more commercials on your channel than on others. Sorry to complain. Thanks for all you do Miles. I’ve learned so much from all your videos and you’re a blessing to the Body. God bless you brother
Get an ad blocker and the conercials go away or are segnificantky reduced
Faith, hope and love make a whole. They work together as components of one unit, and they abide forever, that is they will always stay that way. Take away one component and the unit breaks down and stops working or will work inefficiently. Without faith it is impossible to please God. But what is faith? faith is to be sure of things hoped for and faith is expressed through love. These three are interconnected. They are individually members of each other just like in the body of Christ we also are individually members of each other although we have our own individual characteristics. But the greater of the three is love which reminds me a bit of God the Father being the greater in spite of being one with the Son and the Holy Spirit.
Philippians 4:20 But our citizenship is in heaven, and from it, we await a savior, the Lord Jesus Christ. He will change our lowly body to conform with his glorified body by the power that enables him also to bring all things under subjection to himself. I think that verse shows a view on the phase of eschatological salvation.
ESCHATOLOGICAL SALVATION?
@@charnelallan7159 We have a Savior and yet at the same time await a Savior! Salvation is past, present and future; it is continuous.
It's a big mystery, like people who have known Biblical truth, they read The Great Controversy, to set aside clear teachings and the Spirit of Prophecy and adopt the heresies of those inspired by Satan? It seems that a part of their mind has darkened, and they no longer see how everything they knew before, were so grounded, that today they are being fulfilled exactly. The prophecies concerning America, Rome, Israel……… how dramatically they perish before our eyes, are seen as a prosperous future for a world that does not seem to have the Bible as a guide.! I think that something similar to the sin against the Holy Spirit, blinds them from seeing the world we live in!
„ But even if our gospel is veiled, it is veiled to those who are perishing, whose minds the god of this age has blinded, who do not believe, lest the light of the gospel of the glory of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine on them.” (2 Corinthians 4,3-4)
You just cited the GC before Scriptures. Think about that.
The Sabbath seems to be a real problem, I wonder why? 🤦🏾♀️🤷🏽♀️
New Covenant Whole Gospel: How many modern Christians cannot honestly answer the questions below?
Who is the King of Israel in John 1:49? Is the King of Israel now the Head of the Church, and are we His Body? Who is the “son” that is the “heir” to the land in Matthew 21:37-43? Why did God allow the Romans to destroy the Old Covenant temple and the Old Covenant city, about 40 years after His Son fulfilled the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34 in blood at Calvary?
What the modern Church needs is a New Covenant Revival (Heb. 9:10) in which members of various denominations are willing to re-examine everything they believe and see if it agrees with the Bible, instead of the traditions of men. We need to be like the Bereans. It will be a battle between our flesh and the Holy Spirit. It will not be easy. If you get mad and upset when someone challenges your man-made Bible doctrines, that is your flesh resisting the truth found in God's Word. Nobody can completely understand the Bible unless they understand the relationship between the Old Covenant given to Moses at Mount Sinai and the New Covenant fulfilled in blood at Calvary.
God is not now a “racist”. He has extended His love to all races of people through the New Covenant fulfilled by His Son’s blood at Calvary. The Apostle Paul warned against using “genealogies” in our faith in 1 Tim. 1:4, and Titus 3:9.
If the New Covenant is "everlasting" in Hebrews 13:20 and the Old Covenant is "obsolete" in Hebrews 8:13, why would any Christian believe God is going back to the Old Covenant system during a future time period?
What brings all local churches together into one Body under the blood of Christ? The answer is found below.
Let us now share the Old Testament Gospel found below with the whole world. On the road to Emmaus He said the Old Testament is about Him.
He is the very Word of God in John 1:1, 14. Awaken Church to this truth.
Jer 31:31 Behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will make a new covenant with the house of Israel, and with the house of Judah:
Jer 31:32 Not according to the covenant that I made with their fathers in the day that I took them by husband unto them, saith the LORD:
Jer 31:33 But this shall be the covenant that I will make with the house of Israel; After those days, saith the LORD, I will put my law in their inward parts, and write it in their hearts; and will be their God, and they shall be my people.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Is the most important genealogy in the Bible found in Matthew 1:1 (Gal. 3:16)? Is God's Son the ultimate fulfillment of Israel (John 1:49)? Why has the modern Church done a pitiful job of sharing the Gospel with modern Orthodox Jews? Why would someone tell them they are God's chosen people and then fail to share the Gospel with them? Who is the seed of the woman promised in Genesis 3:15? What did Paul say about Genesis 12:3 in Galatians 3:8, 3:16? Who is the "son" in Psalm 2? Who is the "suffering servant" of Isaiah 53? Who would fulfill the New Covenant promised in Jeremiah 31:31-34? Who would fulfill the timeline of Daniel chapter 9 before the second temple was destroyed? Why have we not heard this simple Old Testament Gospel preached on Christian television in the United States on a regular basis?
Once a person comes to understand the New Covenant promised to Israel and Judah in Jeremiah 31:31-34, which is found fulfilled by Christ during the first century in Hebrews 8:6-13, and Hebrews 10:16-18, and specifically applied to the Church in 2 Corinthians 3:6-8, and Hebrews 12:22-24, man-made Bible doctrines fall apart.
Let us now learn to preach the whole Gospel until He comes back. The King of Israel is risen from the dead! (John 1:49, Acts 2:36)
We are not come to Mount Sinai in Hebrews 12:18. We are come instead to the New Covenant church of Mount Zion and the blood in Hebrews 12:22-24.
1Jn 3:22 And whatsoever we ask, we receive of him, because we keep his commandments, and do those things that are pleasing in his sight.
1Jn 3:23 And this is his commandment, That we should believe on the name of his Son Jesus Christ, and love one another, as he gave us commandment.
1Jn 3:24 And he that keepeth his commandments dwelleth in him, and he in him. And hereby we know that he abideth in us, by the Spirit which he hath given us.
The following verses prove the Holy Spirit is the master teacher for those now in the New Covenant.
Jer 31:34 And they shall teach no more every man his neighbour, and every man his brother, saying, Know the LORD: for they shall all know me, from the least of them unto the greatest of them, saith the LORD: for I will forgive their iniquity, and I will remember their sin no more.
Mar 1:8 I indeed have baptized you with water: but he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost.
Joh 14:26 But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
Act 11:16 Then remembered I the word of the Lord, how that he said, John indeed baptized with water; but ye shall be baptized with the Holy Ghost.
1Co 12:13 For by one Spirit are we all baptized into one body, whether we be Jews or Gentiles, whether we be bond or free; and have been all made to drink into one Spirit.
1Jn 2:27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing teacheth you of all things, and is truth, and is no lie, and even as it hath taught you, ye shall abide in him.
Watch the TH-cam videos “The New Covenant” by David Wilkerson, or Bob George, and David H.J. Gay.
Myles..... James from advent media connect has been hitting this guy hard ..... I'll put a video link about the sanctuary argument so you have an idea.
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@@robbiebob6267 he’s content farming
@@answeringadventism haha yes I agree.....
Keep the good work flowing .
Just like a human government traffic law has a fine connected with the over speeding law to show drivers that they will break the speed law sooner or later, so was the Ten Commandments. In Exodus 20:25-26 God commanded for Moses to make an altar to offer the required offerings, meaning that sooner or later the people will break the commandments thus they have to pay with their offerings. Moreover God required that the altar be made of natural stones and not hewn stones to indicate that only what God has created will be accepted as a picture of God's grace in order for sinners to be counted right with God.
obviously he never knew what the protest was/is all about.
@@tony1685 lol and neither do you considering you think Protestantism is simply “protesting the Roman Catholic Church.”
You guys aren’t even Protestant, Tony. I’ve done so much content on this. You guys are the fruit of the radical reformation, not the Protestant reformation. Your own scholars are on record stating this. Go check your homework again.
“North American Protestantism of the nineteenth century was a child of the sixteenth-century Reformation. Many Adventists are aware of that fact but have mistakenly concluded that their church is an heir of those branches of the Reformation initiated by Martin Luther, John Calvin, or Ulrich Zwingli. While it is true that Adventist’s concept of salvation by grace through faith came through the mainline Reformers, the theological orientation of Adventism really finds itself most at home with what church historians call the Radical Reformation or the Anabaptists.”-GEORGE KNIGHT, SEARCH FOR IDENTITY: THE DEVELOPMENT OF SEVENTH-DAY ADVENTIST BELIEFS, PG. 30
He’s talking about people like you, Tony 😅
Neither does SDA PuBlic Affairs director Diop meeting with the Pope. Remember, the Papacy has changed and he is just another man. Or is he another Jesuit?
@@Donatello-b4x well expound on what you know
@@jayreece708 There are several videos of SDA churches that are talking about this. You can research it for yourself.
Tony, Myles is right. You are not Protestantist. You don't believe what actual Protestantists believe.
From sundaism to SDA,then back to Babylon 😅😅😅
The amalgamated beast has spoken again. A shame you follow people that thought you were spawned from a animal.
@Donatello-b4x Claiming to be following Jesus Christ But without power of Christ in their lives 😭😭😭😭
The SDA is Babylon.
@okwijames947 You cannot bring yourself to admit what Ellen White thought of your race.
@@okwijames947 every time I have seen you comment, you fail to present a real defense of Adventism. All you know how to do is mock and jeer.
I really liked this video but at times you should let the guest talk more than the host. lol
Guests are afforded as much time as they’d like to speak prior to, as the host, segueing the conversation through pre approved show notes/itinerary. This stream was no different.
Based on what the guest says, sometimes it’s pertinent to speak into some of that before then transitioning.
2 Peter 2:22 BUT it is happened unto them according to the True proverb, the dog is turned to his own vomit again; and the Saw that was washed to her wallowing in the mire" And both of them eat the meats of This animals welcome back home 😅😅😅😅😅😅
Dude you have some serious issues
Thank you for being a comedic parody of Sadventism. The only reason Myles doesn't ban you from commenting is that you actually HELP his cause by being so goofy and over-the-top that you make his case for him! A sincere spiritual seeker reading your comments would quickly realize "If the SDAs are like THAT guy, I want nothing to do with them!" If a sincere Sadventist wondering "what if I've been wrong all this time?" reads your comments, he/she will realize "now I KNOW I've been wrong all this time! I need to find a real church fast!" and leave Sadventism!
what does that verse have to do with the topics discussed in the video. and what is amazing to me is how utterly unaware you are of the mistakes in the in the teachings of Ellen White or the SDA Organization. I remember when I was a child told not to listen to people like Myles. and I faithfully obeyed that warning. I now understand why the SDA leadership is so worried of these kind of people. every time SDA's start listening to these kind of folks who that the SDA organization for theological reasons they start losing members.
@rodneyfullcircle So they are no mistakes where you are????
@rodneyfullcircle worried of rubbish by a tattooed scrap
I don’t think I can ever leave a religion and believe in hellfire and immortal soul after biblically, knowing that it’s not true
And we could never join a movement that has a false gospel that’s cursed by God. Belief about the condition of Hell and the nature of the soul doesn’t even come close to as important as having a false gospel.
Being wrong about the gospel will damn you. Being wrong about the hell and the soul will not.
@ we believe that the millennium is for the world of mankind to come to God. The world is not being called by God right now. He has only sent his spirit into the world to find the bride for his son who will remain in the millennium. Have you ask yourself what happens to those who died before Christ? What about those who have never heard? What about the 10-year-old that just died?
I don't believe in eternal hellfire and that God tortures you forever. Many churches teaches this and not just SDA.
considering how wrong the SDA organization is about so many issues, and for that matter Ellen White. it would be wise to examine all of the things we have been taught by SDA leaders. seek and follow after Christ who is the truth. who cares where we end up as long as it is closer and closer to the Truth, Christ our Lord
Stop waisting your time in deceiving people...
Good day Myles
My name is Derrick, I'm from South Africa and have been following the work you do for some time, I'm even a member of your channel. I would like to discuss with an Adventist regarding prophecy. I'm noticing that that's one of the area people barely touch and many adventists seem to think that maybe they could be wrong about everything else but on prophecy they are spot on.
I understand the need to focus on the fundamentals but I think this is also another area that needs to be explored. If you are open to it, I would like to have a discussion with an Adventist on your channel about prophecy, day to a year principle, 2300 days, 538AS, 1798AD, 457AD etc.
If there is an Adventist out there interested in having such a discussion please let's do it.
Kind regards
Sorry, tried emailing but my email keeps bouncing
@@Donatello-b4xagreed, that's why we need to engage with those that believe it
@@Dee1Mr OK. I misread your comment and deleted mine. I see what you are saying.
@@Dee1Mr try again: answeringadventism@gmail.com
Abso Abso Absolutely. What deceives them most is their delusions on precise prophecy interpretation. But reading other scholars on Daniel and Revelation, i soon saw that their historicists method is so wack
@@hosannajoy2531So what is the correct interpretation? I haven’t seen anything wrong with their interpretation of the 2 Beasts. Many non SDAs believe the exact same thing. Speak if you have the true interpretation.