I got to admit I love the little touches of AA. I just started listening to the video like a podcast, while I play a game on my desktop, and the creepy background music is so funny. I do appreciate the little satire things like this. The funeral service of Ellen White especially was a favorite.
BTW, love your videos and enjoy them tremendously. Just giving the Catholic view and not trying to start an argument. There's always 2 sides of the story as you know as a father.
@tony1685 Well for one , SDAs prohibit alcohol, yet Jesus made wine and Paul recommended Timothy drink s little. They still call some foods ‘unclean’ despite Jesus calling all foods clean. They started their whole movement on date setting despite Jesus saying no one knows. They claim Jesus’s crucifixion did not atone for our sin, despite all New Testament writers saying it did.
there's a deep theological and common sense debate on alcohol -- it's about keeping the body healthy and not allowing anything to distort your communication with the Holy Spirit. we believe the term 'wine' in OT did mean juice in some places. yet it's still a person choice. 2 -- yes, Jesus did label all 'foods' clean -- nowhere did He label swine and shrimp as 'foods'. 3 -- incorrect. Mr Miller, a southern baptist, along with many others from various denominations - thought he had the date of Jesus' 2nd coming. this is true. so like the apostles, who thought Jesus would return as a King (rather than a lamb) and conquor the romans (rather than get crucified) -- he was wrong/they were wrong. do we stone him for it? 4 -- nonsense. it certainly did and that isn't what we claim. i see down below the question was avoided -- i asked if you believe the 7th day Sabbath was to be kept? see Sir, if we start by grasping basics, then theologically deeper discussion are usually easier to comprehend.
i've posted once and it's not being allowed -- imagine that! 1st issue -- we believe it's wrong to put something in the temple of God which impairs our ability to hear the Holy Spirit. 2nd -- yet He never did declare swine or shrimp as 'food', did He ? 3rd -- nonsense, you've clearly not studied our history nor the Bible. finally -- that isn't what we believe -- again, you're lacking comprehension. perhaps start with Ten Commandments. once you and the Bible agree on Them, perhaps you'd be ready to review our theology once again. sun will be setting in Texas within the next couple hours -- so i bid you and all Christians reading this: *Happy Sabbath!!!* i pray the Lord's day (tomorrow) and church (tomorrow as well) is also blessed and wonderful for all Christians! i will still check back here from time to time between now and tomorrow evening. i enjoy teaching Scripture and proving the misconceptions of our church up with people. thanks for reading!
@tony1685 Pretending to be a "teacher of Scripture" when you're nothing more than an EGW propagandist is hypocrisy of the highest order. Impossible to "reason together" with such an one & in fact Scripture advises against it.
I can really see writing some kind of summary essay on the basic topic. It is real dynamite. I have seen so much virtual signaling from Adventists on message boards, Facebook groups and so on pretending they are just about the Bible.
I can't fault the Adventist preacher for doing his thing, he is doing the same basic problem I have seen from various Pentecostal and Charismatic preachers. This problem is that the hermeneutics are based on "What preaches well" more than trying to be the most accurate to the text or the social context of ancient Israel or the ancient Church. I have seen that so many times, probably my biggest gripe about my past in the Charismatic movement.
It’s incredible how similar this kind of „hermeneutics“ is to the Jehovahs Witnesses rhetoric. I’ve been a JW for 30 years and this way of making Mickey Mouse out of the Bible passages made me wake up (too late).
@@Bravedog2017 yes, Mormons as well. They all do this same thing and you must go to them and their extra biblical sources of authority to really understand what the Bible says.
I was listening to an ex JW explaining how he came out of his religion and he started with explaining that their "date calculations" were wrong … immediately I thought about how that’s the exact same way Seventh day adventism started… by date setting
1 Timothy 1 3 As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus so that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine, {{{4 nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship[a] from God that is by faith. }}} 5 The aim of our charge is {{{love}}} that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6 Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions. Adventists do not know nor understand what they teach, it’s all EGW and not truth.
I think of SDA hermeneutics as basement bathtub homebrew religiousity. EGW is the duct tape holding the whole system together. Once her "Great Controversy" worldview is stripped away, the whole system falls apart.
This is so damaging and deceptive. God’s word stands alone without error. I have been so tricked in the past, that there are passages that I honestly believed were Biblical and now found to be completely fabricated. The best deceptions and false doctrines, are mixed with truth.
The Historical Grammatical method destroys SDA's self serving interpretation of Daniel 8:14. The SDA's use the Spiritual Narcissist Hop Scotch method of interpretation.
@@tony1685 The historical context of Daniel 8 is (not) about a group of 19th century fanatics who see themselves in every prophecy. This prophecy is about Jews in Jerusalem. Daniel 8 tells you by who, by what, where, and when the earthly sanctuary would be defiled. And for how long in vs 14. (2300 days) SDA’s take this one verse and insert their own special interpretation. Basically a lot of nonsense and clown logic. For example, they start the 2300 day prophecy at the same time at the 70 week prophecy. Around 457BC, then apply a day for a year. This is clown logic, because the Temple was just rebuild, and restored around 457BC. The Temple and daily sacrifices were (not) trampled underfoot and neglected for 2300 years! Let that sink in. The Temple was not defiled in 457BC ! So 457BC can (not) possibly be the starting point of the 2300 day prophecy. How about using the context of Ch 8 to get your starting point instead of surgically inserting Ch9. The most obvious start date for the 2300 day prophecy is when it was “defiled” by Antiochus Epiphanies! Around 171 to 165 BC, When he offered pigs on the alter and set up idols in the most holy... The Temple was cleansed 2300 literal days later or 6 years later. The Jews have observed Hanukkah to celibate the fulfillment of Daniel 8:14 the cleansing of the Temple, for over 2000 thousands years! Jesus was at the Temple during the celebration of Hanukkah, aka the feast of Dedication, aka the feast of lights. John 10:22 Adventist have to ignore History and the Bible to come up with their goofy interpretations.
@@tony1685Go through what their own number 1 Hebrew scholar called Raymond Cottrell and a hosts of all scholars wrote about Dan 8:14. They all said there isn't any evidence that it has any link with Lev 16. They concluded it's a total error and SDA hid that report
I still think there is a really great video to be made showing "Bible Hopscotch". I only wish I had saved some of my strange online nonsequitar conversations with Adventists where I ran into to it. But pointing that out, I think can be really brutal. If Adventists really were doing the Historical Grammatical method they would not be so weird and ill-logical as they are.
"wild typology and allegory" to arrive at "wild interpretations" is a very high bar the author is setting. Can he, using his own examples, arrive at the correct interpretations? and in detail, not in generalities as he used in this video.
@stevengroom7322 "Yes Adventist hermeneutics is somewhat lacking credibility" Hey Steven, I find your comment very interesting. It seems to me that your "hermeneutics" are credible. So give me an example of your exegesis and "hermeneutics' of let's say 1 Peter 5:6. *1 Peter 5:6* 6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time: How would you unpack this text exegetically?
I think it's a pity that there is no mention of the scripture in Malachi, which is very foundational to what Pr Jon Lomacang is saying. Malachi 4:5-6 KJV Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: [6] And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse. The prophecy in Malachi has a dual application, because there is a second coming we are looking forward to, as well. There will be an Elijah message before his second coming, not just the first. It will be as specific as the message that Elijah gave to Ahab. It is good to understand general themes, but there is much more detail that we need to look at.
Doesn’t matter what butchery Adventists try and use to make their parallels-the HGM isn’t used within Adventism despite the leadership constantly lying to the contrary. You guys butcher the Bible through all sorts of wild typology and allegory and then claim it’s a “plain thus saith the lord” as well as that the rest of us are “blind” for not seeing it and agreeing 😂
For All of Us Who Had No Clue What Eisogesis Is: Eisegesis is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text. Isn't that the standard M.O. for sermons?
OK I see some of the reason why Adventists are so wacked. On "Historical Grammatical" they talk about understanding language "as the normal person would understand it". And that is not it at all, because I think they are talking about the English translation and general understanding of things, and while our translations are very good, the actual background is the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic of the Bible. And some of that can have multiple potential meanings and nuances Hebrew especially, and there is a lot of actual footnoted things, while they are basically shoehorning some kind of nude Scripture view of the Bible. No actually worse than that, if Adventists were Nude Scritpurists that would not be so bad, they often go out of their way to pretend their strange Adventist revelations are from nude scripture rather than Eisegesis from Ellen White, Joseph Bates etc.
Dagnabbit!!! I done went and did it again. I recent said I had seen everything (forgot what at the moment) but now I am presented with "Nude Scritpurists." I'm guessing I might not find that in my newly acquired (used) Bible Dictionary...
Well, Even American English sounded and was phrased differently in the mid-19th century as it is now. Add to that, a few liberal handfuls of The King's 1611 phrases, then empty in the SDA-isms grab bag, and there you go... Don't most SDA preachers also pray in The Kings English?
And Once Again I have a definition for those of you besides me who didn't know this: Nuda scriptura, also called solo scriptura, meaning "bare scripture" is a term used by some Protestants to describe the view that scripture is the only rule of faith to the exclusion of all other sources, while in contrast, sola scriptura teaches that the scripture alone is infallible, without excluding church tradition and other sources entirely, but viewing them as subordinate and ministerial. Wikipedia
FYI ~ I have an "acquired OCD" in that if I do not know an individual word or have never heard of a topic, I simply MUST look it up Credit/Blame my Rhetoric Professor. We were given an article every class. The next class would be a test on 10 vocabulary words (we did not know which 10) and 10 comprehension questions... It has been many years, but I feel physically guilty if I don't look stuff up...
Most of our English translations ARE good (excluding of course "Clear Word," JWs "New World Translation" & any number of "translations" that have been made for the sole purpose of supporting apostate cults' unique/heretical doctrines), but one could also argue that limiting modern English-speaking laymen to the Elizabethean English version (i.e. KJV only) & then having said modern laymen read their own modern definitions of words INTO that translation is a recipe for disaster.
1 Corinthians 12:*7* Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. *8* To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, *9* to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, *10* to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.
Historicism ≠ Millers 13 Rules Literally none of the reformers that were historicists utilized their historicist eschatology the way the SDA church does. And they held to and utilized the HGM which isn’t dependent upon being a historicist.
@ Well William Miller was not an SDA. Seventh-day Adventism Was no doubt influenced by Millers rules. The interpretation method however was historicism, just like many reformers. Rather sad and interesting for those throwing stones at SDA Church for their interpretation method when it was theirs aswell 🫣. Something worth investigating I suggest. Many of the reformers were historicists, something that seems neglected by Churches today. How about you do a video about that? 👍The reformers actually did come to the foundational understanding of apocalyptic prophecy, just like the SDAs. It lead them to identify the antichrist. Check the confessionals and books. You will find what I say to be true.
Bible hermeneutics to me is, if the plain sense makes sense seek no other sense...... Therefore if a verse cant be taken literal then it must be interpreted spiritually or figuratively and or both, then the verse and context must follow the rules of Paul in II Tim 2:15 in this dispensation of grace.... The SDA dont follow that rule, they constantly are using OT verses for faith in Christ justification of one's own salvation, they constantly beat the drum of justification in law and keeping the sabbath, thats not Pauls gospel, thats not what Christ died for, the only way a soul is justified in this current church age is the BLOOD of Christ, the moral laws of the bible are for our guide line in righteous living, not justification....... I will also note that the only rule of law and authority in this present world is the 1611 KJB of which we have today, all other version are perversions of God's word. Therefore, ALL that reject the KJB as final authority like James White and Mark Ward are liars with a evil heart of unbelief!!!!!!!!!!
Do you follow the doctrine of John Calvin. Why don't you do a video on your beliefs? Wasn't Calvin a man? Do you follow Calvin or Jesus and the Holy Bible? Did Calvin and Calvin's believe => Opposition to Religious Tolerance: Calvin advocated strict enforcement of religious orthodoxy, which included the persecution of individuals with differing beliefs, like Michael Servetus. Critics argue that his intolerance led to repressive measures and even violence, contradicting the New Testament ethos of loving one’s enemies. Rigid Interpretation of Scripture: Calvin’s theological interpretations, especially in the Institutes of the Christian Religion, are seen by some as too dogmatic. This rigidity, according to critics, leaves little room for interpretative flexibility and adaptation to new insights or contexts, limiting the personal and communal nature of theological understanding.
“Do you follow the doctrine of John Calvin” No. Which is why the rest of your comment is entirely irrelevant. You sound like you googled John Calvin talking points and then just copied and pasted them. Michael Servetus, Seriously? lol Uhh, no, John Calvin isn’t to me what Ellen White is to Adventism. You sound like a novice. John Calvin wasn’t a prophet. He wasn’t inspired. The Presbyterian movement doesn’t claim this whatsoever. John Calvin isn’t even codified into the Westminster Standards like Ellen is in the Fundamental Beliefs. You’re comparing pineapples and apples. This is Answering Adventism. How’s about actually engaging with what’s said and not whining about things not in focus? “Why don’t you make videos about baking?” “Why don’t you make videos about cars?” Because this platform has a specific focus. Same goes for your questions.
@@georgeslater7396 uhh, right, I claimed it’s my opinion that this is one of the biggest ways Adventism deceives people. It’s my opinion because there could be larger ways. That doesn’t mean it’s my opinion that they do indeed deceive people how I explained. It was plainly demonstrated to be objectively so. But ok George lol
We make a big mistake when we think our method of interpretation is the absolute standard by which the rest of the world should go by. The rule of interpretation is simple, found in 2nd John V9: "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son". Churches have all kinds of rules and regulations, "church law". Compare them by what Jesus taught and ask, "Did Jesus teach this"? If He didn't, you throw it out. I've been attending the same Adventist church for 56 years. Nobody in the church tricked me, because I have been listening to Jesus instead of people.
_"because I have been listening to Jesus instead of people."_ Yes, the one who also have older brothers. Yes, the one who was glorified to became second in charge in heaven. Yes, the one who didn't died for our sins at the cross. And also the one who has zero godlike attributes like all knowing or been able to be omnipresent. Yes, that is the jesus you are talking about, you only deceived yourself and nobody else.
I was just listening to the advanced Defense League.. they got a guy named Anthony on their last week.. claiming the sins on the cross went to heaven ..(that's not my Jesus ).that means your. Jesus didn't come to do what He did. Isaiah 43:25... so what good is your Jesus....? What does He say happens to those sins? are they piling up... up there? Leviticus says this happens on the same day. I think( you say )that Leviticus 16:10 ...that goat is the devil.. and you're going to have them removed by the( devil )...that verse says that's for the( atonement..)! Do you realize how convoluted this is..
@@jsimoes9424 understanding that would take a study of the original diet and a bit of sense. do you believe we will have steak & chicken in Heaven? _'Our Father.....on earth as it is in Heaven...'_ too much to think about?
@ You don’t know a lot about the Bible, Christ or Christianity. The Evidence of Scripture that Christ established the Catholic Church. 1. Christ takes away the kingdom of God from the Jews (the Sabbath keepers) *for murdering their prophets, Christ and the Apostles* Mt. 21:33-43 2. Christ gives the kingdom of God to the Apostles and the Church. Mt. 21:43 3. Christ choses his own leaders apart from the Jewish Levites and High Priests Luke 6:12-16 4. Christ sets "Cephas" (or Peter in the Greek) as "the Rock" His Visible Head of the Church. John 1:42 Cephas Means ROCK, NOT STONE 5. Christ give them and the church *authority to bind and loosen* in Christs' visible absence (Mt. 18:18, and Mt. 16:16-18) That's contrary to all the SDA Teachings from Ellen G. White! 6. Christ gives them power to *forgive sin* to the Church (John 20:23) 7. Christ gives them power to *prevent sin from even being forgiven* from Christ! (John 20:23) That's contrary to all the SDA Teachings from Ellen G. White! 8. Christ gives Peter and the Apostles to make binding doctrines in his visible absence (Mt. 16:16-18) A demonstration of that is Acts 15:5-16:4 9. Christ commands the Apostles to make a Universal Church by *preaching the gospel* *in all nations* (Catholic) and making disciples! (Mt. 28:18-20) 10. Christ promises he will not let the gates of hell prevail over the church where Peter is the visible head (Mt. 16:16-18) 11. Christ promises he *WILL NEVER LEAVE or FORESAKE THAT CHURCH.* (Mt 28:20) That's contrary to all the SDA Teachings from Ellen G. White! 12. The Apostles carry out that mission in Acts 2:36-42, Paul's epistle to the Church of Rome (Romans 1:1-10) Also, the entire book of Acts. 13. The Apostles hold the first council of the Catholic Church and issue a *doctrinal decree to all the Churches* that the Judaizers are to leave the Gentiles alone and stop trying to convert them to Judaism (Acts 15-16:4) 14. The Apostle Paul repeats that no other Church is built upon the Apostles and the Prophets and Christ as "the Chief Cornerstone) Eph. 2:20 15. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that there is ONLY ONE BODY (Eph.4:4) 16. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that the *ONE BODY IS THE ONE CHURCH* (Col.1:24) 17. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that there is ONLY ONE FAITH (Eph. 4:5) 18. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT (Eph.4:4) 19. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine there is ONLY ONE BAPTISM (NOT 2) 20. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that "Christ loves his OWN BODY AND NOURISHES IT AND CHERISHES IT! (Eph. 5:29) That's contrary to all the SDA Teachings from Ellen G. White! 21. Christ teaches that HIS BODY AND BLOOD ARE FOOD AND DRINK *"INDEED"* ! John 6:55. WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED?!!
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1.
In truth the Seventh-Day Adventist approach to scripture is the same as many of our protestant founders, such as Luther, Calvin etc. Adventists are one of the few groups who have not neglected this principle that we can also deduce from scripture. Jesus uses a similar method in places like Luke 21. See- Historicists believe that prophetic interpretation reveals the entire course of history of the church from the writing of the Book of Daniel, some centuries before the close of the 1st century, to the end of time.[2] Historicist interpretations have been criticized for inconsistencies, conjectures, and speculations and historicist readings of the Book of Revelation have been revised as new events occur and new figures emerge on the world scene.[3] Historicism was the belief held by the majority of the Protestant Reformers, including Martin Luther, John Calvin, Thomas Cranmer, and John Knox. The Catholic church tried to counter it with preterism and Futurism during the Counter-Reformation.[4][page needed][5]
So name one reformer who shared Adventist theology on the Investigative Judgment, Jesus as Michael, salvation by following the law, clean and unclean foods, and annahilationism
@@jsimoes9424 I have named several who shared our approach to apocalyptic literature and share the same foundations we hold regarding apocalyptic understanding.
And none shared Investigative Judgment, and adherence to Jewish food laws and ‘health message’ and 1844 return of Jesus and the reformed dress and the great controversy theme and Ellen whites’s prohibitions of pepper, tea and coffee and annihilationism, and condemnation of other Christians who disagreed with you and the shut door doctrine and Pharisaical regard for sabbath and veganism .
@@jsimoes9424 that’s the point of this post my friend. Engage this principle first. Happy to go there when appropriate. People here are throwing stones at themselves and not even aware that it’s highlighting their lack of knowledge regarding their own denomination.
SDA CHUCH is spot on. their method of interpretation is very correct. YOU are the one who is tricking people as you correctly stated that you are expressing your own opinions.
😂😂. How is this content supposed to be anti-adventist? Struggling to aline it with your anti-adventist content by leaving out large chunks of the messages . JESUS IS COMING BACK. Every minute, everything points to that. You are very petty. Right interpretation is key. Anti-adventism can be really pathetic
@@jsimoes9424 According to anti-adventists if you watched previous videos, this guy believes Muslims and Jw believe christ is coming back. Yet adventists , who from our own name are waiting for Jesus coming are apparently waiting different Jesus coming. I really think the devil really opened this channel, corrupted pastors son just he entered one of Jesus desciples, to insult , mock and express hatred to adventists
It's unfortunate! I'm not theologian, but besides his great learning and reading of other people's works. He can critic sda all he wants. Only the gullable will be taken! If you read the bible the way he advised tonight, you will come to the 4 mighty conclusions: 1. There is a sanctuary in heaven where christ is a high priest! 2. In that sanctuary, there is an ark! "The ark of the covenant."" 3. The covenant is the 10 commandments. Saturday is the day spoken of in the 4th of these commandments! Not Sunday! 4. When people die, they die, they don't metamorphose! If you come to these conclusions, you are an sda. Anything less needs a smooth talking lying theologian to persuade you. These 4, a grade school baby can learn and understand!
False Shepard has nothing else to focus on in life apart from criticizing SDAS, 😅😅😅 when your judgement time reaches, you will be alone 😜 and your skin painter's won't be there
EGW made a living from criticzing and judging sunday keepers, it's all through her books. She happens to be one of the greatest false shepherds of them all.
Hahahahahaha 😢😢😢😢😢,.....Myles, worshipping God and preaching his word isn't a game or business. It is dangerous according Matt 12:36, 37. This is life and death. So, don't be fooled. Adventists are teaching the truth according to psalms 119:142 ; John 17:17. You're wasting your time, efforts and money. Sad, isn't it.
You mean like the truth that Jesus Took the sins to heaven with him on April the 25th in the year 31?!. So are they piling up up there? Apparently Leviticus 16 does not happen on the same day. An Isaiah 43:25 has been completely removed by SDA.
@MarkChupp-j5i that's real stupid doctrine ever. If jesus truly took away your sins and my sins at the cross, WHY DID THE COUPLE IN ACTS 5 STILL DIED IN THEIR UNFORGIVEN SINS ?
@Bupaville40 he is wasting his time and yours. If jesus really took away the sin on the cross then I don't believe there would be another INTERCERAY WORK for jesus to do in the heavenly sanctuary according to Hebrews. In addition, if jesus really took away all sins at the cross, WHY DID ANNANIAS AND SAPPHIRA STILL DIED IN THEIR UNFORGIVEN SINS according to Act 5, can you explain ? Thus, if you and MYLES don't explain it, then even though I'm a catholic I would still say:-- you and your friend Myles are wasting your time and effort.
@@ajw9975 - There seem to be several Mystical Happenings in our Universe...Some peeps try to hide them; others share... I love to keep digging and learning...
@@cindiloowhoo1166 At this point in time, especially since I came out of adventism in Feb, I'm not too inclined to read/delve too much into event timing ie "Bible Code" and things related. When Christ comes HE comes. I'm just glad I'm finally ETERNALLY at rest in Christ no matter what happens (and not worried about my investigative judgment).
@@ajw9975 ~ Do what you need to do to for you ~ I think Some Jewish people are working on it - not to do EGW date setting - The day you die is your Come To Jesus 2nd Coming call, so all this other Daniel & revelation is really irrelevant ~~ Blessed Be
The title and thumbnail got a laugh and smile from me! Happy Reformation Day for my Protestant friends.
This video really hits it on the head
which head
Thanks Myles ✌️
I've been busy a lot lately but it will all even out eventually. 🙏
0:00 *"I am sharing with you from my heart today..."* 👀
I thought he was about to break out into the "Monster Mash" for a second there 🤣🤣🤣
I got to admit I love the little touches of AA. I just started listening to the video like a podcast, while I play a game on my desktop, and the creepy background music is so funny. I do appreciate the little satire things like this. The funeral service of Ellen White especially was a favorite.
Can't help it but crack some laugh at around 19:34 with "Mister apostate protestantism himself." This is classic 😂😅
BTW, love your videos and enjoy them tremendously. Just giving the Catholic view and not trying to start an argument. There's always 2 sides of the story as you know as a father.
@tony1685 Well for one , SDAs prohibit alcohol, yet Jesus made wine and Paul recommended Timothy drink s little.
They still call some foods ‘unclean’ despite Jesus calling all foods clean.
They started their whole movement on date setting despite Jesus saying no one knows.
They claim Jesus’s crucifixion did not atone for our sin, despite all New Testament writers saying it did.
there's a deep theological and common sense debate on alcohol -- it's about keeping the body healthy and not allowing anything to distort your communication with the Holy Spirit. we believe the term 'wine' in OT did mean juice in some places.
yet it's still a person choice.
2 -- yes, Jesus did label all 'foods' clean -- nowhere did He label swine and shrimp as 'foods'.
3 -- incorrect. Mr Miller, a southern baptist, along with many others from various denominations - thought he had the date of Jesus' 2nd coming. this is true. so like the apostles, who thought Jesus would return as a King (rather than a lamb) and conquor the romans (rather than get crucified) -- he was wrong/they were wrong. do we stone him for it?
4 -- nonsense. it certainly did and that isn't what we claim.
i see down below the question was avoided -- i asked if you believe the 7th day Sabbath was to be kept?
see Sir, if we start by grasping basics, then theologically deeper discussion are usually easier to comprehend.
i've posted once and it's not being allowed -- imagine that!
1st issue -- we believe it's wrong to put something in the temple of God which impairs our ability to hear the Holy Spirit.
2nd -- yet He never did declare swine or shrimp as 'food', did He ?
3rd -- nonsense, you've clearly not studied our history nor the Bible.
finally -- that isn't what we believe -- again, you're lacking comprehension.
perhaps start with Ten Commandments. once you and the Bible agree on Them, perhaps you'd be ready to review our theology once again.
sun will be setting in Texas within the next couple hours -- so i bid you and all Christians reading this:
*Happy Sabbath!!!*
i pray the Lord's day (tomorrow) and church (tomorrow as well) is also blessed and wonderful for all Christians!
i will still check back here from time to time between now and tomorrow evening.
i enjoy teaching Scripture and proving the misconceptions of our church up with people.
thanks for reading!
🙄 Enjoys "teaching Scripture."
@@kimartist you're always welcome to put your hypocrisy aside and prove me wrong.
@tony1685 Pretending to be a "teacher of Scripture" when you're nothing more than an EGW propagandist is hypocrisy of the highest order. Impossible to "reason together" with such an one & in fact Scripture advises against it.
I can really see writing some kind of summary essay on the basic topic. It is real dynamite. I have seen so much virtual signaling from Adventists on message boards, Facebook groups and so on pretending they are just about the Bible.
I can't fault the Adventist preacher for doing his thing, he is doing the same basic problem I have seen from various Pentecostal and Charismatic preachers. This problem is that the hermeneutics are based on "What preaches well" more than trying to be the most accurate to the text or the social context of ancient Israel or the ancient Church. I have seen that so many times, probably my biggest gripe about my past in the Charismatic movement.
Sorry - Nope - EGW all over the place.
It’s incredible how similar this kind of „hermeneutics“ is to the Jehovahs Witnesses rhetoric. I’ve been a JW for 30 years and this way of making Mickey Mouse out of the Bible passages made me wake up (too late).
@@Bravedog2017 yes, Mormons as well. They all do this same thing and you must go to them and their extra biblical sources of authority to really understand what the Bible says.
I was listening to an ex JW explaining how he came out of his religion and he started with explaining that their "date calculations" were wrong … immediately I thought about how that’s the exact same way Seventh day adventism started… by date setting
Myles continue what you are doing .This are God's word so whether in pretence or in truth Christ is being preach.
It’s interesting how SDAs say they focus on the Bible yet ignore so many clear precepts from it.
Lack of captions shows the Deaf are not included.
like which, Sir?
@@annetteyoung8050 Turn on cc in the settings.
@@annetteyoung8050 Closed captions are never available in livestreams - they are only available afterward.
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1 Timothy 1
3 As I urged you when I was going to Macedonia, remain at Ephesus so that you may charge certain persons not to teach any different doctrine, {{{4 nor to devote themselves to myths and endless genealogies, which promote speculations rather than the stewardship[a] from God that is by faith. }}}
5 The aim of our charge is {{{love}}} that issues from a pure heart and a good conscience and a sincere faith. 6 Certain persons, by swerving from these, have wandered away into vain discussion, 7 desiring to be teachers of the law, without understanding either what they are saying or the things about which they make confident assertions.
Adventists do not know nor understand what they teach, it’s all EGW and not truth.
I will give Mr Luther credit for one thing: He did write one of my favorite hymns.
I think of SDA hermeneutics as basement bathtub homebrew religiousity. EGW is the duct tape holding the whole system together. Once her "Great Controversy" worldview is stripped away, the whole system falls apart.
Ever study the Hebrew Roots Movement? Torahist mindset without EGWitless. ✌️
But you can't strip it! It's like saying you strip the redemption world view or the creation world view!
How do you deny the obvious?
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True, you can't strip it, the SDA is hell bound and everyone who don't repent will join them in hell
"Duct tape" LOLOLOLOLOL 🤣🤣🤣
that's a strawman -- i became SDA based off my reading of Scripture itself.
This is so damaging and deceptive. God’s word stands alone without error. I have been so tricked in the past, that there are passages that I honestly believed were Biblical and now found to be completely fabricated. The best deceptions and false doctrines, are mixed with truth.
Ted’s vile heart is nasty and disgusting.
Extra Biblical revelation from their seer EGW... SDA do not base their beliefs on the Bible only Ted is lying
Seer so fitting a label i think
i actually became SDA after study of the Bible. didn't even know about SDA until much after i understood and had my own beliefs.
@@tony1685 And now that you know 1844 is a fantasy and the prophetess is a female Muhammad, what do you say ?
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Must be the Not so Clear Word Bible that you are talking about
@@nonconformist4802 how so? be clear yourself.
Myles, faulty hermeneutics underlies not just SDA, but every movement out of the restoration movement
@@teamrecon2685 of course, that’s why I spoke of sects broadly in the beginning and how this is the root of how they trick people.
The Historical Grammatical method destroys SDA's self serving interpretation of Daniel 8:14. The SDA's use the Spiritual Narcissist Hop Scotch method of interpretation.
@@briangdozier badly
how so?
please explain. i'd love to hear your take on Daniel 8:14 !
@@tony1685 The historical context of Daniel 8 is (not) about a group of 19th century fanatics who see themselves in every prophecy. This prophecy is about Jews in Jerusalem. Daniel 8 tells you by who, by what, where, and when the earthly sanctuary would be defiled. And for how long in vs 14. (2300 days) SDA’s take this one verse and insert their own special interpretation. Basically a lot of nonsense and clown logic.
For example, they start the 2300 day prophecy at the same time at the 70 week prophecy. Around 457BC, then apply a day for a year. This is clown logic, because the Temple was just rebuild, and restored around 457BC. The Temple and daily sacrifices were (not) trampled underfoot and neglected for 2300 years! Let that sink in. The Temple was not defiled in 457BC !
So 457BC can (not) possibly be the starting point of the 2300 day prophecy. How about using the context of Ch 8 to get your starting point instead of surgically inserting Ch9.
The most obvious start date for the 2300 day prophecy is when it was “defiled” by Antiochus Epiphanies! Around 171 to 165 BC, When he offered pigs on the alter and set up idols in the most holy... The Temple was cleansed 2300 literal days later or 6 years later.
The Jews have observed Hanukkah to celibate the fulfillment of Daniel 8:14 the cleansing of the Temple, for over 2000 thousands years!
Jesus was at the Temple during the celebration of Hanukkah, aka the feast of Dedication, aka the feast of lights. John 10:22
Adventist have to ignore History and the Bible to come up with their goofy interpretations.
@@tony1685Go through what their own number 1 Hebrew scholar called Raymond Cottrell and a hosts of all scholars wrote about Dan 8:14. They all said there isn't any evidence that it has any link with Lev 16. They concluded it's a total error and SDA hid that report
Holy Toledo, this people!
I still think there is a really great video to be made showing "Bible Hopscotch". I only wish I had saved some of my strange online nonsequitar conversations with Adventists where I ran into to it. But pointing that out, I think can be really brutal. If Adventists really were doing the Historical Grammatical method they would not be so weird and ill-logical as they are.
Critical thinking requires logic - If This, Then That. If not That, then what? I love process flow charts - helpful in many walks of life...
"wild typology and allegory" to arrive at "wild interpretations" is a very high bar the author is setting. Can he, using his own examples, arrive at the correct interpretations? and in detail, not in generalities as he used in this video.
Yes Adventist hermeneutics is somewhat lacking credibility
how so, steven?
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And you don't know the answer, what can be the reason for that Tony?
@stevengroom7322 "Yes Adventist hermeneutics is somewhat lacking credibility"
Hey Steven, I find your comment very interesting.
It seems to me that your "hermeneutics" are credible.
So give me an example of your exegesis and "hermeneutics' of let's say 1 Peter 5:6.
*1 Peter 5:6*
6 Humble yourselves therefore under the mighty
hand of God, that he may exalt you in due time:
How would you unpack this text exegetically?
I think it's a pity that there is no mention of the scripture in Malachi, which is very foundational to what Pr Jon Lomacang is saying.
Malachi 4:5-6 KJV
Behold, I will send you Elijah the prophet before the coming of the great and dreadful day of the LORD: [6] And he shall turn the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers, lest I come and smite the earth with a curse.
The prophecy in Malachi has a dual application, because there is a second coming we are looking forward to, as well.
There will be an Elijah message before his second coming, not just the first. It will be as specific as the message that Elijah gave to Ahab.
It is good to understand general themes, but there is much more detail that we need to look at.
Doesn’t matter what butchery Adventists try and use to make their parallels-the HGM isn’t used within Adventism despite the leadership constantly lying to the contrary. You guys butcher the Bible through all sorts of wild typology and allegory and then claim it’s a “plain thus saith the lord” as well as that the rest of us are “blind” for not seeing it and agreeing 😂
Too much eisogesis mixed with fiction and other strange thoughts.
For All of Us Who Had No Clue What Eisogesis Is:
Eisegesis is the process of interpreting text in such a way as to introduce one's own presuppositions, agendas or biases. It is commonly referred to as reading into the text.
Isn't that the standard M.O. for sermons?
OK I see some of the reason why Adventists are so wacked. On "Historical Grammatical" they talk about understanding language "as the normal person would understand it". And that is not it at all, because I think they are talking about the English translation and general understanding of things, and while our translations are very good, the actual background is the Greek, Hebrew and Aramaic of the Bible. And some of that can have multiple potential meanings and nuances Hebrew especially, and there is a lot of actual footnoted things, while they are basically shoehorning some kind of nude Scripture view of the Bible. No actually worse than that, if Adventists were Nude Scritpurists that would not be so bad, they often go out of their way to pretend their strange Adventist revelations are from nude scripture rather than Eisegesis from Ellen White, Joseph Bates etc.
Dagnabbit!!! I done went and did it again. I recent said I had seen everything (forgot what at the moment) but now I am presented with "Nude Scritpurists." I'm guessing I might not find that in my newly acquired (used) Bible Dictionary...
Well, Even American English sounded and was phrased differently in the mid-19th century as it is now. Add to that, a few liberal handfuls of The King's 1611 phrases, then empty in the SDA-isms grab bag, and there you go... Don't most SDA preachers also pray in The Kings English?
And Once Again I have a definition for those of you besides me who didn't know this: Nuda scriptura, also called solo scriptura, meaning "bare scripture" is a term used by some Protestants to describe the view that scripture is the only rule of faith to the exclusion of all other sources, while in contrast, sola scriptura teaches that the scripture alone is infallible, without excluding church tradition and other sources entirely, but viewing them as subordinate and ministerial. Wikipedia
FYI ~ I have an "acquired OCD" in that if I do not know an individual word or have never heard of a topic, I simply MUST look it up Credit/Blame my Rhetoric Professor. We were given an article every class. The next class would be a test on 10 vocabulary words (we did not know which 10) and 10 comprehension questions... It has been many years, but I feel physically guilty if I don't look stuff up...
Most of our English translations ARE good (excluding of course "Clear Word," JWs "New World Translation" & any number of "translations" that have been made for the sole purpose of supporting apostate cults' unique/heretical doctrines), but one could also argue that limiting modern English-speaking laymen to the Elizabethean English version (i.e. KJV only) & then having said modern laymen read their own modern definitions of words INTO that translation is a recipe for disaster.
1 Corinthians 12:*7* Now to each one the manifestation of the Spirit is given for the common good. *8* To one there is given through the Spirit a message of wisdom, to another a message of knowledge by means of the same Spirit, *9* to another faith by the same Spirit, to another gifts of healing by that one Spirit, *10* to another miraculous powers, to another prophecy, to another distinguishing between spirits, to another speaking in different kinds of tongues, and to still another the interpretation of tongues.
They really do
Does it bother anyone here that the historicist approach seems to be used by Luther, Calvin, and Knox?
Historicism ≠ Millers 13 Rules
Literally none of the reformers that were historicists utilized their historicist eschatology the way the SDA church does. And they held to and utilized the HGM which isn’t dependent upon being a historicist.
@ Well William Miller was not an SDA. Seventh-day Adventism Was no doubt influenced by Millers rules.
The interpretation method however was historicism, just like many reformers. Rather sad and interesting for those throwing stones at SDA Church for their interpretation method when it was theirs aswell 🫣. Something worth investigating I suggest. Many of the reformers were historicists, something that seems neglected by Churches today. How about you do a video about that? 👍The reformers actually did come to the foundational understanding of apocalyptic prophecy, just like the SDAs. It lead them to identify the antichrist. Check the confessionals and books. You will find what I say to be true.
Bible hermeneutics to me is, if the plain sense makes sense seek no other sense...... Therefore if a verse cant be taken literal then it must be interpreted spiritually or figuratively and or both, then the verse and context must follow the rules of Paul in II Tim 2:15 in this dispensation of grace....
The SDA dont follow that rule, they constantly are using OT verses for faith in Christ justification of one's own salvation, they constantly beat the drum of justification in law and keeping the sabbath, thats not Pauls gospel, thats not what Christ died for, the only way a soul is justified in this current church age is the BLOOD of Christ, the moral laws of the bible are for our guide line in righteous living, not justification.......
I will also note that the only rule of law and authority in this present world is the 1611 KJB of which we have today, all other version are perversions of God's word. Therefore, ALL that reject the KJB as final authority like James White and Mark Ward are liars with a evil heart of unbelief!!!!!!!!!!
Do you follow the doctrine of John Calvin. Why don't you do a video on your beliefs? Wasn't Calvin a man? Do you follow Calvin or Jesus and the Holy Bible? Did Calvin and Calvin's believe => Opposition to Religious Tolerance: Calvin advocated strict enforcement of religious orthodoxy, which included the persecution of individuals with differing beliefs, like Michael Servetus. Critics argue that his intolerance led to repressive measures and even violence, contradicting the New Testament ethos of loving one’s enemies.
Rigid Interpretation of Scripture: Calvin’s theological interpretations, especially in the Institutes of the Christian Religion, are seen by some as too dogmatic. This rigidity, according to critics, leaves little room for interpretative flexibility and adaptation to new insights or contexts, limiting the personal and communal nature of theological understanding.
“Do you follow the doctrine of John Calvin”
No. Which is why the rest of your comment is entirely irrelevant. You sound like you googled John Calvin talking points and then just copied and pasted them. Michael Servetus, Seriously? lol Uhh, no, John Calvin isn’t to me what Ellen White is to Adventism. You sound like a novice.
John Calvin wasn’t a prophet. He wasn’t inspired. The Presbyterian movement doesn’t claim this whatsoever. John Calvin isn’t even codified into the Westminster Standards like Ellen is in the Fundamental Beliefs. You’re comparing pineapples and apples.
This is Answering Adventism. How’s about actually engaging with what’s said and not whining about things not in focus?
“Why don’t you make videos about baking?”
“Why don’t you make videos about cars?”
Because this platform has a specific focus. Same goes for your questions.
you lost me at "in my opinion" 1:13
@@georgeslater7396 uhh, right, I claimed it’s my opinion that this is one of the biggest ways Adventism deceives people. It’s my opinion because there could be larger ways. That doesn’t mean it’s my opinion that they do indeed deceive people how I explained. It was plainly demonstrated to be objectively so.
But ok George lol
Your work shall not stand the test
Neither do trolls
The work is definitely standing lol, people are leaving adventism and finding truth in Jesus Christ
We make a big mistake when we think our method of interpretation is the absolute standard by which the rest of the world should go by. The rule of interpretation is simple, found in 2nd John V9: "Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of Christ, hath not God. He that abideth in the doctrine of Christ, he hath both the Father and the Son". Churches have all kinds of rules and regulations, "church law". Compare them by what Jesus taught and ask, "Did Jesus teach this"? If He didn't, you throw it out. I've been attending the same Adventist church for 56 years. Nobody in the church tricked me, because I have been listening to Jesus instead of people.
Did Jesus teach veganism?
Did Jesus teach veganism?
_"because I have been listening to Jesus instead of people."_
Yes, the one who also have older brothers.
Yes, the one who was glorified to became second in charge in heaven.
Yes, the one who didn't died for our sins at the cross.
And also the one who has zero godlike attributes like all knowing or been able to be omnipresent.
Yes, that is the jesus you are talking about, you only deceived yourself and nobody else.
I was just listening to the advanced Defense League.. they got a guy named Anthony on their last week.. claiming the sins on the cross went to heaven ..(that's not my Jesus ).that means your. Jesus didn't come to do what He did. Isaiah 43:25... so what good is your Jesus....? What does He say happens to those sins? are they piling up... up there? Leviticus says this happens on the same day. I think( you say )that Leviticus 16:10 ...that goat is the devil.. and you're going to have them removed by the( devil )...that verse says that's for the( atonement..)! Do you realize how convoluted this is..
@@jsimoes9424 understanding that would take a study of the original diet and a bit of sense.
do you believe we will have steak & chicken in Heaven? _'Our Father.....on earth as it is in Heaven...'_
too much to think about?
*The first Catholic to be murdered by a Sabbath keepers was Christ, Himself!*
you like fiction a lot
@ You don’t know a lot about the Bible, Christ or Christianity.
The Evidence of Scripture that Christ established the Catholic Church.
1. Christ takes away the kingdom of God from the Jews (the Sabbath keepers) *for murdering their prophets, Christ and the Apostles* Mt. 21:33-43
2. Christ gives the kingdom of God to the Apostles and the Church. Mt. 21:43
3. Christ choses his own leaders apart from the Jewish Levites and High Priests Luke 6:12-16
4. Christ sets "Cephas" (or Peter in the Greek) as "the Rock" His Visible Head of the Church. John 1:42 Cephas Means ROCK, NOT STONE
5. Christ give them and the church *authority to bind and loosen* in Christs' visible absence (Mt. 18:18, and Mt. 16:16-18) That's contrary to all the SDA Teachings from Ellen G. White!
6. Christ gives them power to *forgive sin* to the Church (John 20:23)
7. Christ gives them power to *prevent sin from even being forgiven* from Christ! (John 20:23) That's contrary to all the SDA Teachings from Ellen G. White!
8. Christ gives Peter and the Apostles to make binding doctrines in his visible absence (Mt. 16:16-18) A demonstration of that is Acts 15:5-16:4
9. Christ commands the Apostles to make a Universal Church by *preaching the gospel* *in all nations* (Catholic) and making disciples! (Mt. 28:18-20)
10. Christ promises he will not let the gates of hell prevail over the church where Peter is the visible head (Mt. 16:16-18)
11. Christ promises he *WILL NEVER LEAVE or FORESAKE THAT CHURCH.* (Mt 28:20) That's contrary to all the SDA Teachings from Ellen G. White!
12. The Apostles carry out that mission in Acts 2:36-42, Paul's epistle to the Church of Rome (Romans 1:1-10) Also, the entire book of Acts.
13. The Apostles hold the first council of the Catholic Church and issue a *doctrinal decree to all the Churches* that the Judaizers are to leave the Gentiles alone and stop trying to convert them to Judaism (Acts 15-16:4)
14. The Apostle Paul repeats that no other Church is built upon the Apostles and the Prophets and Christ as "the Chief Cornerstone) Eph. 2:20
15. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that there is ONLY ONE BODY (Eph.4:4)
16. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that the *ONE BODY IS THE ONE CHURCH* (Col.1:24)
17. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that there is ONLY ONE FAITH (Eph. 4:5)
18. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that there is ONLY ONE SPIRIT (Eph.4:4)
19. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine there is ONLY ONE BAPTISM (NOT 2)
20. The Apostle Paul sets the doctrine that "Christ loves his OWN BODY AND NOURISHES IT AND CHERISHES IT! (Eph. 5:29) That's contrary to all the SDA Teachings from Ellen G. White!
21. Christ teaches that HIS BODY AND BLOOD ARE FOOD AND DRINK *"INDEED"* ! John 6:55.
WHAT MORE PROOF DO YOU NEED?!!
Which church are true according to the Bible in this world? Because many churches are not true according to this scriptures, Matthew 7:21-23,Roman's 10;1-3,2Corintians 11:12-15,2thimoty 4:3-4,2Peter 2:1-3,1John 4:1.
answeringadventism.com/what-is-the-church/
John 14:6 13:18-19 1 Cor 1:5-9 2: 13-16 1 Timothy 6: 3-4 Galatians 1:6-9 Rev 1: 1-3 17-18 22:10-15
Nooo - Mr Ted. Y'all are much more strident than even the RC Magisterium re determining the interpretation of The Holy Scriptures.
In truth the Seventh-Day Adventist approach to scripture is the same as many of our protestant founders, such as Luther, Calvin etc. Adventists are one of the few groups who have not neglected this principle that we can also deduce from scripture. Jesus uses a similar method in places like Luke 21.
See- Historicists believe that prophetic interpretation reveals the entire course of history of the church from the writing of the Book of Daniel, some centuries before the close of the 1st century, to the end of time.[2] Historicist interpretations have been criticized for inconsistencies, conjectures, and speculations and historicist readings of the Book of Revelation have been revised as new events occur and new figures emerge on the world scene.[3]
Historicism was the belief held by the majority of the Protestant Reformers, including Martin Luther, John Calvin, Thomas Cranmer, and John Knox. The Catholic church tried to counter it with preterism and Futurism during the Counter-Reformation.[4][page needed][5]
So name one reformer who shared Adventist theology on the Investigative Judgment, Jesus as Michael, salvation by following the law, clean and unclean foods, and annahilationism
@@jsimoes9424 I have named several who shared our approach to apocalyptic literature and share the same foundations we hold regarding apocalyptic understanding.
And none shared Investigative Judgment, and adherence to Jewish food laws and ‘health message’ and 1844 return of Jesus and the reformed dress and the great controversy theme and Ellen whites’s prohibitions of pepper, tea and coffee and annihilationism, and condemnation of other Christians who disagreed with you and the shut door doctrine and Pharisaical regard for sabbath and veganism .
@@jsimoes9424 that’s the point of this post my friend. Engage this principle first. Happy to go there when appropriate. People here are throwing stones at themselves and not even aware that it’s highlighting their lack of knowledge regarding their own denomination.
10:31 /37:23. The 10 tribes of Israel😮
SDA CHUCH is spot on. their method of interpretation is very correct. YOU are the one who is tricking people as you correctly stated that you are expressing your own opinions.
😂😂😂😂😂Jokes
When are you preaching God's word. Has the evil one so hired you that you are convinced what you are doing is from God
😂😂. How is this content supposed to be anti-adventist? Struggling to aline it with your anti-adventist content by leaving out large chunks of the messages . JESUS IS COMING BACK. Every minute, everything points to that. You are very petty. Right interpretation is key. Anti-adventism can be really pathetic
Nothing here says Jesus isn’t coming back…
@@jsimoes9424 According to anti-adventists if you watched previous videos, this guy believes Muslims and Jw believe christ is coming back. Yet adventists , who from our own name are waiting for Jesus coming are apparently waiting different Jesus coming. I really think the devil really opened this channel, corrupted pastors son just he entered one of Jesus desciples, to insult , mock and express hatred to adventists
You have become my favorite false teacher who is my religious entertainer. I like you clownery.
@@CJILMinistriesprotruth you love me then 🙂 thanks buddy
He said he doesn't endorse any hermanutics, why endorse HGN?
It's unfortunate! I'm not theologian, but besides his great learning and reading of other people's works. He can critic sda all he wants. Only the gullable will be taken! If you read the bible the way he advised tonight, you will come to the 4 mighty conclusions:
1. There is a sanctuary in heaven where christ is a high priest!
2. In that sanctuary, there is an ark! "The ark of the covenant.""
3. The covenant is the 10 commandments. Saturday is the day spoken of in the 4th of these commandments! Not Sunday!
4. When people die, they die, they don't metamorphose!
If you come to these conclusions, you are an sda.
Anything less needs a smooth talking lying theologian to persuade you. These 4, a grade school baby can learn and understand!
False Shepard has nothing else to focus on in life apart from criticizing SDAS, 😅😅😅 when your judgement time reaches, you will be alone 😜 and your skin painter's won't be there
EGW made a living from criticzing and judging sunday keepers, it's all through her books. She happens to be one of the greatest false shepherds of them all.
Hahahahahaha 😢😢😢😢😢,.....Myles, worshipping God and preaching his word isn't a game or business. It is dangerous according Matt 12:36, 37. This is life and death. So, don't be fooled. Adventists are teaching the truth according to psalms 119:142 ; John 17:17. You're wasting your time, efforts and money. Sad, isn't it.
You mean like the truth that Jesus Took the sins to heaven with him on April the 25th in the year 31?!. So are they piling up up there? Apparently Leviticus 16 does not happen on the same day. An Isaiah 43:25 has been completely removed by SDA.
He is not wasting any money, I think he's making some money, at the cost of his soul
@MarkChupp-j5i that's real stupid doctrine ever. If jesus truly took away your sins and my sins at the cross, WHY DID THE COUPLE IN ACTS 5 STILL DIED IN THEIR UNFORGIVEN SINS ?
@Bupaville40 he is wasting his time and yours. If jesus really took away the sin on the cross then I don't believe there would be another INTERCERAY WORK for jesus to do in the heavenly sanctuary according to Hebrews. In addition, if jesus really took away all sins at the cross, WHY DID ANNANIAS AND SAPPHIRA STILL DIED IN THEIR UNFORGIVEN SINS according to Act 5, can you explain ? Thus, if you and MYLES don't explain it, then even though I'm a catholic I would still say:-- you and your friend Myles are wasting your time and effort.
What truth are Adventist teaching? That the sabbath is the seal of God? Can you show me that in scripture?
@AnsweringAdventism ~ Have you read The Bible Code? I found it fascinating.
I did a decade or so ago. It seemed pretty compelling. Not that I acted on it; TBH, I didn't think too much about it after I read it.
@@ajw9975 - There seem to be several Mystical Happenings in our Universe...Some peeps try to hide them; others share... I love to keep digging and learning...
@@ajw9975 I dunno ~~ The older I get, the less I believe "Coincidences" are "Gof-instances" or bad Karma catching up with one...
@@cindiloowhoo1166 At this point in time, especially since I came out of adventism in Feb, I'm not too inclined to read/delve too much into event timing ie "Bible Code" and things related. When Christ comes HE comes. I'm just glad I'm finally ETERNALLY at rest in Christ no matter what happens (and not worried about my investigative judgment).
@@ajw9975 ~ Do what you need to do to for you ~ I think Some Jewish people are working on it - not to do EGW date setting - The day you die is your Come To Jesus 2nd Coming call, so all this other Daniel & revelation is really irrelevant ~~ Blessed Be