I really dont understand the purpose of going to university and getting a degree if we have to then do these confusing questions to get a job and learn how to do them. I feel like instead of humans, they want computers to work in their company. This just makes it 100 times harder for someone to find a job.
Yes it often feels like that doesn't it, but we're here to help you pass. School exams and university degrees mostly measure learned knowledge (what stuff can you remember). Aptitude tests and psychometric tests measure innate intelligence and personality traits (which can't be learned). So I guess employers want people with both learned knowledge and innate intelligence.
@@AssessmentDayLtd There are psychometric tests which are doable, but within inductive reasoning tests, there are some which are just not doable. Amidst this pandemic its already very hard to find a job as a graduate, let alone get a job offer that require all these tests.
@@AssessmentDayLtd problem is, we had a guy that started as a Marine Pilot trainee that could absolutely rattle through these and get nearly all of them right with PLENTY of time remaining...but he was an absolutely useless pilot, absolutely hopeless. He didn't succeed in the end and left to find another job. They don't always give a good indication of ability, IMHO.
Hi chenelle97, At first it can be daunting to tackle a question like this in the allotted time. But over time, you'll find yourself slowly but surely becoming more familiar with how it works. Almost like learning a new language. You can take time thinking over a new vocabulary you are trying to learn. But over time you'll become quick and it's almost instinctual. Please also bear in mind that is a tutorial video, taking its time, with its aim to help people comprehend the underlying logic and processes of the question and those like it. In a live testing situation, I appreciate that you will likely find faster methods to get the correct answers. However, I felt it appropriate to include the calculations and logical thought processes in the video, as it provides a stronger conceptual framework by which to understand the question. Hope this provides some clarity to your question/statement. All the best, Ben
@@AssessmentDayLtd tests are to test human ability to solve problem, why on earth someone wanted to master the test? There far more better things for human to do then this useless test prove nothing
@@AssessmentDayLtd This is such bullshit. These tests are nothing more than a reason for employers to deny you the position you are applying for. I have a dual law degree together with a masters degree from two top universities: employers will offer you an interivew if they are interested and see you as an potential candidate. These bullshit logical reasoning tests are just reasons for saying no to you. You don't become quick and they never become instinctual.
Of all the insane shit i've seen/heard in my life the need of such a test to assess someone's skill strikes me as the most unbelievable. Perhaps more than the test itself, i hate the small timeframe that doesn't allow you to work all the possible scenarios. Often times i wonder, do those companies want to hire people to get the job done or innate super geniuses? Because given these conditions and the small timeframe you have to work within, it seems a possible task almost only to super intelligent people. And i can safely say that there are alot of good people out there being rejected because of such stupid tests. I honestly despise what learning has become about : Repeating the same thing over and over again until you don't even have to think even for a second in order to answer a question.
how on earth anyone can establish any pattern on such a confusing question, I don't see this can help anyone. You guys created such question to confuse people. I have done Test but never face such a confusing useless question.
Good question. We have a page on this here: www.assessmentday.co.uk/resources/what-is-deductive-reasoning.html Inductive logic is different from deductive logic. With deductive reasoning, possible outcomes are explored and discounted in order to arrive at the only possible outcome without contradicting the given premises. Sudoku puzzles are a classic test of deductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning is open and exploratory. It examines the applicant's ability to reach general conclusions based on perceived patterns observed in specific events. Real-life arguments are often inductive; which is why employers want to know how good you are at inductive reasoning. They require you to think analytically and to hold multiple, and perhaps contradictory, variables and in your head at a given moment. The skills required to do well in an deductive reasoning test are applicable to many jobs but particularly applicable to engineering, science and IT.
There is a "mistake" in your first "written" (pdf) text. It should be: 2 dots \ 2 dots. Not 3 dots \ 1 dot. Not a single cell has dots unbalanced by more than 1 dot. Although it doesnt contradict your "rules" in the answer sheet, it actually contradicts the pattern's logic. To make matters worse, the side that adds 1 dot when the total is a odd number isn't always the same, but there is no pattern to it. Even though your answer is technically correct...considering there is a pattern in every single one of the shown 8 boxes by keeping them even when the total is also an even number, it makes the answer seems a lot more like a mistake than a proper answer.
The circles are not explained well. For example, no explanation why the 2nd circle from the first square is ignored. In a test like this. All data presented should matter especially when teaching a beginner.
No clarity on which type of test is this for. Some tests require 30-40 Qs in 10-15 min. This needs to be explained in vid to ensure time is not wasted.
I'm sorry that ANYONE should have to take a test like this to get a damn job.
Well said :)
Thank You
Awful Illogical and does not test our professional qualifications, these tests must fall!
I really dont understand the purpose of going to university and getting a degree if we have to then do these confusing questions to get a job and learn how to do them. I feel like instead of humans, they want computers to work in their company. This just makes it 100 times harder for someone to find a job.
Yes it often feels like that doesn't it, but we're here to help you pass. School exams and university degrees mostly measure learned knowledge (what stuff can you remember). Aptitude tests and psychometric tests measure innate intelligence and personality traits (which can't be learned). So I guess employers want people with both learned knowledge and innate intelligence.
@@AssessmentDayLtd There are psychometric tests which are doable, but within inductive reasoning tests, there are some which are just not doable. Amidst this pandemic its already very hard to find a job as a graduate, let alone get a job offer that require all these tests.
@@AssessmentDayLtd problem is, we had a guy that started as a Marine Pilot trainee that could absolutely rattle through these and get nearly all of them right with PLENTY of time remaining...but he was an absolutely useless pilot, absolutely hopeless. He didn't succeed in the end and left to find another job.
They don't always give a good indication of ability, IMHO.
How on earth are you supposed to do all of that in the allocated time!
Hi chenelle97,
At first it can be daunting to tackle a question like this in the allotted time. But over time, you'll find yourself slowly but surely becoming more familiar with how it works. Almost like learning a new language. You can take time thinking over a new vocabulary you are trying to learn. But over time you'll become quick and it's almost instinctual.
Please also bear in mind that is a tutorial video, taking its time, with its aim to help people comprehend the underlying logic and processes of the question and those like it. In a live testing situation, I appreciate that you will likely find faster methods to get the correct answers. However, I felt it appropriate to include the calculations and logical thought processes in the video, as it provides a stronger conceptual framework by which to understand the question. Hope this provides some clarity to your question/statement.
All the best,
Ben
@@AssessmentDayLtd tests are to test human ability to solve problem, why on earth someone wanted to master the test? There far more better things for human to do then this useless test prove nothing
@@AssessmentDayLtd This is such bullshit. These tests are nothing more than a reason for employers to deny you the position you are applying for. I have a dual law degree together with a masters degree from two top universities: employers will offer you an interivew if they are interested and see you as an potential candidate. These bullshit logical reasoning tests are just reasons for saying no to you. You don't become quick and they never become instinctual.
Of all the insane shit i've seen/heard in my life the need of such a test to assess someone's skill strikes me as the most unbelievable. Perhaps more than the test itself, i hate the small timeframe that doesn't allow you to work all the possible scenarios. Often times i wonder, do those companies want to hire people to get the job done or innate super geniuses? Because given these conditions and the small timeframe you have to work within, it seems a possible task almost only to super intelligent people. And i can safely say that there are alot of good people out there being rejected because of such stupid tests. I honestly despise what learning has become about : Repeating the same thing over and over again until you don't even have to think even for a second in order to answer a question.
I understood nothing
true! !
how on earth anyone can establish any pattern on such a confusing question, I don't see this can help anyone. You guys created such question to confuse people. I have done Test but never face such a confusing useless question.
same here
yeah but it’s good practice, i don’t see the need to complain about it.
Awesome vid, I've been looking for something like this for a while. Why would this be classed as 'Inductive' reasoning rather than deductive?
Good question. We have a page on this here:
www.assessmentday.co.uk/resources/what-is-deductive-reasoning.html
Inductive logic is different from deductive logic. With deductive reasoning, possible outcomes are explored and discounted in order to arrive at the only possible outcome without contradicting the given premises. Sudoku puzzles are a classic test of deductive reasoning. Inductive reasoning is open and exploratory. It examines the applicant's ability to reach general conclusions based on perceived patterns observed in specific events. Real-life arguments are often inductive; which is why employers want to know how good you are at inductive reasoning. They require you to think analytically and to hold multiple, and perhaps contradictory, variables and in your head at a given moment. The skills required to do well in an deductive reasoning test are applicable to many jobs but particularly applicable to engineering, science and IT.
There is a "mistake" in your first "written" (pdf) text. It should be: 2 dots \ 2 dots. Not 3 dots \ 1 dot. Not a single cell has dots unbalanced by more than 1 dot. Although it doesnt contradict your "rules" in the answer sheet, it actually contradicts the pattern's logic. To make matters worse, the side that adds 1 dot when the total is a odd number isn't always the same, but there is no pattern to it. Even though your answer is technically correct...considering there is a pattern in every single one of the shown 8 boxes by keeping them even when the total is also an even number, it makes the answer seems a lot more like a mistake than a proper answer.
it seems the second shaded circle follows: down right -> left -> top left -> right (i.e., a parallelogram). The first shaded one moves like you said.
thnx for introducing me to a new hobby
thx for confusing me
this was not explained well
The circles are not explained well. For example, no explanation why the 2nd circle from the first square is ignored. In a test like this. All data presented should matter especially when teaching a beginner.
No clarity on which type of test is this for. Some tests require 30-40 Qs in 10-15 min. This needs to be explained in vid to ensure time is not wasted.
Thank you
My head is spinning
You only assume the answer is B, to me there is no right or wrong answer to these tasks. Is should stop.
WTF
This is a nonsense question