Lysander with Terminators seem better, just get a shield and hammer and convert the Terminator Captain into him. Get some Agressors and you have a suitable option to attach Tor and the Apothecary to (which seems possible). I probably use my Dorn conversion from Guilliman as well as Guilliman, he could go 1 handed with his sword or 2 handed representing his combat weapons, while the bolter he holds is the ranged one.
I'm painting up my Marines as the Dark Krakens, a Salamanders successor. They have a cool paint scheme and they're all about being Space Marine monster hunters. Their lore is all about fighting Leviathan, they're adherents to the Promethean cult and get along with their parent chapter (as far as I know) so the presence of Vulkan or Adrax would make sense. And as an Ultima Founding chapter that participated in the Indomitus Crusade, even Bobby G could make an appearance. Gives me lots of flexibility and keeps with the lore too
@@iainfenton4671 Unfortunately as far as I know all their lore is from the White Dwarf issues. The 40K wiki is a good summation of their exploits and chapter characters and characteristics, but it seems its only source is that July 2021 issue of White Dwarf
This is a Salamander and crimson fist box by far. The reason why I pick crimson fists though is because the las cannon and missile laucher is a very classic dreadnought combo. However, you know who else would love some of those new terminators? Carcharodons. I rest my case your honor.
When the new Detachments come out in the codex, hopefully there is an Immolation Force or something, geared towards the Salamanders purging and burning the heretics....
Kinda funny how the Leviathan boxset favors Salamanders and yet their decals are nowhere to be on seen on the transfer sheet that comes with the boxset
It doesn't really favor Salamanders. In my opinion Ultramarines are the best pick for the box, because of their HQs choices. They have a massive amount of good unique characters. And roboute guilliman is just on another level. The salamanders HQ choices are not as good as the Ultramarines ones. They are fine and all but to be fair: giving the infernus squad wound rerolls maybe sounds good on paper. But in reality it is not very strong, because the infernus squad is only S 5, AP 0. So this unit is only effective against light armoured infantery. But buffing units who are good against light armoured infantery won't win you games most of the time especially because the 10th edition favors elite units and vehicles because you don't need to bring standard infantery or something like that. Salamanders are in my opinion not the best choice in 10th edition (at least gameplay-wise). But they are not the weakest choice either.
@@levvy16 that's because GW are massively biased. Either they want all Marines blue, or make the divergent Chapters vastly more interesting than the compliant ones.
@@Backpflaume666 Thats why aggressors are now the big cheese. They have ap-1 flamers when hitting nearest targets with built in reroll wounds and that gravis apothecary makes their melee nasty consistent
I think the Infernus squads actually fit the Blood Angels quite well. They do love their flamers, so they can run up and clear away chaff units for the assault units.
I’ll be running them as imperial fists, I already own some heavy intercessors and aggressors. So Tor Garadon and the Apothecary will have a place in my detachment!
Im a bit of a lore nerd so im going with the Dark Krakens, a salamander successor specialising in taking on hordes, seems a pretty perfect fit with all the flamers
I've been building up my Dark Angels army up for a while and I have a good number of characters, not much in the way of battleline forces, so this box lines up perfectly for me
This was exactly what I was looking for! I'm new to the game and this was perfect. Trying to make the most out of the Leviathan box. Now I'm really looking hard at salamanders
I'd like to add a note that the box being 980pts and the infernus marines being 90pts a squad of 5 hvy intercessors plug is SUPER easy and rounds it out to a nice flat 1000pts. That would also give the apothecary a place to go. 👍
@@venlocity2 oh okay so they are that primaris scale instead of first Borns. Okay tysm I'm new to the game and getting the leviathan so i wanted all my models to be "updated" scale
Mr Auspex! I just wanted to tip my hat off to you for the incredible amount of work and content you are putting out right now. A bright light in thr dark of the warp.
If you wanted to go purist Space Wolves, you can technically run the sternguard as wolfguard and the infernus as two units of long fangs carrying heavy flamers
Feel the Emperor's lukewarm approval streaming down your power armor as Lamenters. Their lore fits perfectly as far as being on their very last legs as they return from their penance crusade only to get completely reconstituted and upgraded with Primaris and Cawl's new tech! ... And then fly directly into another hive fleet and get eaten lol. Lamenters are also flexible between Gladius as a very codex compliant chapter, and Sons of Sanguinius as a Blood Angel successor chapter. Plus their checkerboard bleeding heart chapter symbol is a great way to increase your patience and painting skills! It's not a glitch, it's a feature
@@padfoot1178 Vulken may live but so does Dorn. Just wait. Also, although I appreciate and respect the Salamanders, please reference Helsreach as to why they are less effective in war. We Templars care about humanity because it is our charge but not at the cost of winning the war. OP, In short- if you want to waste time saving a few humans instead of prioritizing killing war bosses, Salamanders are your guys. Also lots of fire. Which is cool. However- if you despise sorcery, want to purge the galaxy of its disgusting Xenos filth, suffer not the unclean to live, take everything extremely seriously because you don’t understand jokes, get as close as possible using melee to see your enemy’s face as they die, have lots of cool tabards and relics, and chant inspiring and awesome litanies like “No Pity! no Remorse! No Fear! Die Well!” Then we are your guys. Read or listen to the book Helsreach or watch the animation for free on TH-cam. The choice becomes clear. But if you do choose to go Salamander, I understand… … I think my fellow Salamander commenter and I can both agree that at least you aren’t considering the Space Wolves
Salamanders here, just got back into 40k after about 10 years away (having previously played Crimson Fists since Rogue Trader days) and will be attaching the Leviathan force to the Salamanders Warpforged Strike Force and Strike Force Agastus models. I think the agastus heavy intercessors or the Warpforged force agressors will pair well with the gravis apothecary, and adrax will certainly work well with the infernus. Pairing the ballistus and brutalis dreadnoughts will hopefully give a good balance too.
I plan to add them to a Blood Angels army. I agree, that these models by themselves aren't the greatest fit lore or play-wise, but I do think they can flesh out a larger force.
@@DavosTheDegen because apothecaries in the ranks of the blood angels are Sanguinary priests? They are on par with the chaplaincy in terms of chapter structure.
@@changer_of_ways_999 True (I hadn't checked his keywords), but sadly he cannot heal anything. So Wolves still have no access to a healer. And I bet GW will FAQ i to say they can't take the Biologis either... GW hate Wolf Priests (or have forgotten they were a chaplain and medic rolled into one)
I’m a Tyranid player but I’m keeping the marines for my little son to start learning to paint. And because his favorite color is Green it will be Salamders for him.
I think I will use the new flamer squad for Salamanders but I think the rest would make a good supporting force for Blood Angels, especially if you add some of the key characters / units!
Great Video. At the moment there is a loophole for the Black Templars to use the Librarian: Gladius Task Force. The restriction is only on the BT Detachment, but it needs to be on the army rules section to be effective on all Detachments
My initial thought was that I would go Crimson Fists, as it fits very well. However I'm now leaning towards Blood Ravens as the idea of dropping in a small force and grabbing some Intel on the enemy fits as well.
As a salamander player I was really hyped before we saw the reveal of the box content and the trailer. I thought the brutalis dread when we first saw it revealed and released was just going to be included in the box as well. The leviathan box would have definitely been a great fit for them and perhaps a better fit for SW and BT as well, maybe decent for Blood angels too. But nonetheless Im looking forward to spamming the starter sets a bit if the infernus marines and sternguard are in them like I have been predicting
I thought the same thing, was kinda hoping for a brutalis dread in there but I can't complain. I beat my wife's nurgle army the other day and she was so pissed that I hit with 1 eradicator and killed her beast of nurgle she started doing research on tyranids. Yesterday she showed me the receipt for the leviathan box and a tervigon cause now she is a hive queen and my salamander successor chapter is going down lol. However, I have been told I am not allowed to use any of the units inside of the box vs her new army 😢😢
@@derhawktb4022 lol damn goals! My girl would never particapte in the game. Iv told her about the lore a bit mianly due to the Cavil/Amazon announcement. The farthest Iv gone with her for any of my hobbies is Lego which she quite likes. So maybe one day lol. Ah! The space marine side of the box is definitely overpowered compared to the Nids side. Out of all of the battle reports Iv seen, the two units for Nids that have been good are the screamer killer and barbguants. So I completely understnad haha
With your previous "Is Leviathan Unbalanced" video in mind, I can not imagine any answer other than Ultramarines. Because only the guys who paint everything they own blue, in a universe where blue is literally the luckiest color, could be lucky enough to outpower their foes by such a margin without the editorial staff even thinking to question the game balance of it... Now to watch the video and see if my hunch bears out.
Def building mine as Raven Guard. My gravis boys will enjoy a few less armored boys to send in first to soften things up a bit. Plus some extra shooting from sternguard.
I am converting old Hellblasters to swap as Infurnus Marines in an attempt to recreate the box line with my current toys. Those flame thowers are cool!
This is the perfect video that I was looking for. Never played Warhammer before but me and a friend split the Leviathan box and I chose the Space Marines. I think I am going to theme my dudes as Leviathan Marines, a special task-force created to combat Tyranids. I'll paint them uniquely from chapters so I can use any chapter rules without a flavor-fail, maybe stripe them a bit with the colors of each chapter
Great video really helped answer my questions. Im a new player and playing templars and getting the box to buff up my baby army. I was plqnning on using the terminators and their captain the sternguard, infernus squad and dreadnaught.😊
My entire marine collection is painted as Black Templar so they’ll be joining the crusade. With the rules the way they are though im toying with fielding a Gladius task force and then going back /forth between gladius and Templar specific detachments based on army construction
My marine's paint scheme is based on a racing car livery (Gulf Oil - light blue and orange) so I see them as a mix between White Scars and Ironhands.. Gotta go fast with vehicles, plasma and flamethrowers. While the box main not be incredibly fitting, the models are so nice that I dont really care.. plus the Tyranid half is really the reason why I bought it, the Marines are just a nice little addition.
I’m splitting my leviathan box between my Deathwatch and Black Templar armies since I feel most of the characters and Dread fit the Deathwatch vibe much better than they do the Templars one
I play White Scars but I still got the box cause more marines is more marines. And while for the most part I stick to a fast paced melee and bike based army I still like having big tanky units just cause they are fun to use as support units that can blast big monsters off the board
This is kinda of late but I think the Space Marines in the 10th trailer might have been winning if we're going off the Leviathan Box it's based on. Like they have at least an Infernus on the home objective, the Neurotyrant died because the Captain engaged it and he's still alive at the end, the Apothecary survived the Leaper ambush since he's the one to suicide bomb to kill the Rippers and some Gaunts, and I think the Librarian wiped the Barbgaunts. Yeah they lost the Dreadnought, a lot of Sternguards and the Apothecary but all around they're honestly fine.
Gravis and Terminator should be interchangeable for character support. I might get leviathan for my shooting platform as space wolves ( intend to use the Captain in a kitbashed Terminator pack, don't know for the others
Hope Vulkan and Adrax get a re-do. Currently I find their rules and abilities a bit lacking. Vulkan's sculpt especially is adorable in comparison to others. (Still listed as on a 25 mm base.)
I heavily disagree. Vulkan is an amazing objective holder, but also great for overwatch. Remember you can overwatch in an enemy movement phase as well, so they just need to walk by the objective to get torched without charging. Adrax's thunder hammer can take on predators, so that's great. His problem is that none of the squads he can combo with is that great. If he can run with bladeguard or aggressors, he'd be fine.
I do pity anyone who repaints their whole army to say its a chapter. More than likely just add Guilliman or whatever character they want and say "they look like white scars, but I assure you they are Ultramarines"
I bought the raven strike boxset before this so I'm going Raven Guard for my leviathan box. Might not be the best choice but I'm excited to put it all together
Adrax Agatone does not actually buff Assault Intercessors rn since they already reroll wound rolls inately. Definitely an oversight, also why can't he lead Bladeguard? They wear tacticus armor and would be an ideal fit both lore and gameplay wise.
Counting the Terminators as Deathwatch Terminators opens up more weapon options for them, as well as leadership checks for enemies when in melee range.
Why not paint the termies as Deathwing? I'm having a hard time between Iron Hands and BA, having more than one color scheme for DA is a big plus (and I love Deathwing's bone armor)
@@SamsButterscotch Two reasons: 1- I feel strongly that a Deathwing update is coming this edition with the new scale termies, and I'd rather wait for those. 2- I love the Idea of adding some BA termies to my small army, and out of everything in the box they seem to be the only thing that will be useful for BAs. That being said I haven't made my decision yet and those Deathwing terminators would look SICK!
@@TENGUartesmarciales With DA's codex being the first to release, I'm thinking you're right thinking some Deathwing Knights refresh is on the way. It's a tough call, but you can never go wrong with Blood Angels 🤘
Just saying that you could have a force of black templars and a librarain because the restrictions are on the detachment. However, if you did... we can no longer be friends.
I collect Ultramarines and Black Templars. Going to be putting melee focussed guys in Black Templar army and shooty stuff in the Ultramarines! Might convert 5 of the infernus marines into a desolation squad with some devastator bits.
I am still busy building and painting my force called the Indomitus Crusaders who can simply integrate many of the units from the Ultramarines that suites my playing style, including the 1st Company and the Terminators units that first fought the Tyranids. I just need to read the rules carefully to ensure that I build my lists well for each game as I have a lot of units now.
I'm having a hard time deciding, that's why I watched the video! 😅 The marine armies I'd been working on are DA Ravenwing and Phobos themed Ravenguard (I know lots of Ravens and lots of black). But this force doesn't fit super well with either thematically. I guess it could be part of a combined DA army pretty well. It's not terrible for either, but also not perfect. So I don't know if I should do one or the other or something completely different! I may just paint the tyranids first so I can decide on the SMs later.
Now hang on one goddamn second. I get that you rate the Blood Angels low because the box has anything besides jump packs and chainswords (which is such a narrow way of thinking of Blood Angels but I'll accept it because they do fit best there), but how are you going to rank them low on _lore_ when *Hive Fleet Leviathan is the Hive Fleet that devastated Baal?* This box is a grudge match! This is round 2! This is justice for Baal! Lore-wise, Blood Angels are the BEST fit! There's a _little_ more to the army than jump packs and chainswords; not _that_ much, but at least give us this! I would paint this up as Blood Angels anyway, because they're just my favorite chapter anyway, and I'm working on a Blood Angel successor chapter that focuses more on a slow, unstoppable march forward rather than a blitz charge, so Terminators fit my vibe better than jump packs anyway.
I'm fairly new to all this but I've looked online and can't seem to find an answer to my question regarding Imperial fists - I like the look of them, but does the librarian work for them? A lot of people seem to think that Imperial fists would never use a psyker?
rules vise you can not take a chapter specific character in a chapter specific detachment they do not fit into, other wise go nuts :) i my self think i will use the Black templars Detachment with the Feel No Pain for my Iron Hands and ditch Iron Farther Feirros.
Alpha Legion. You have Unkillable chaos lord with halved damage Sorcerer that gives -1Ap Chaos termies squad that takes bonuses from lord or sorc Helbrute with lascannon and missile launcher that buffs Dark pacts of every unit around Warp Flamer rubrick marines with new armor vessel for their lost souls and greater AP from termie sorx target Thick Fabius Bile 5 chosen And Exalted champion who with Khorne relic will take up to 8A 11 str -2AP(-3 under sorc target) 2D monster with guaranteed 7A 7Str
I created my first Space Marine Chapter right before Leviathan was previewed and decided it would be my 10th edition army. I finished the concept and color scheme. And then Leviathan was totally wrong for it! Indomitus was perfect, so that's what I'm using! 😅
I would have mentioned Crimson Fists with Imperial Fists since Pedro Kantor is not a bad leader for the Sternguard Veteran.
That’s how I’m making my box
Wait pedro can be taken with sternguard?
Primaris Pedro Confirmed?
@@thebaron2277 they are - sternguard, not primaris sternguard 😅😅
Lysander with Terminators seem better, just get a shield and hammer and convert the Terminator Captain into him.
Get some Agressors and you have a suitable option to attach Tor and the Apothecary to (which seems possible). I probably use my Dorn conversion from Guilliman as well as Guilliman, he could go 1 handed with his sword or 2 handed representing his combat weapons, while the bolter he holds is the ranged one.
@@Spacefrisian any idea where I can snag a shield from?
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Auspex: Instantly makes a video about it
I'm painting up my Marines as the Dark Krakens, a Salamanders successor. They have a cool paint scheme and they're all about being Space Marine monster hunters. Their lore is all about fighting Leviathan, they're adherents to the Promethean cult and get along with their parent chapter (as far as I know) so the presence of Vulkan or Adrax would make sense. And as an Ultima Founding chapter that participated in the Indomitus Crusade, even Bobby G could make an appearance. Gives me lots of flexibility and keeps with the lore too
I hadn't seen them before. I really like the color scheme!
I saw these guys in the newest White Dwarf and their colour scheme is very appealing. I might take these on too. Any more info about them?
@@iainfenton4671 Unfortunately as far as I know all their lore is from the White Dwarf issues. The 40K wiki is a good summation of their exploits and chapter characters and characteristics, but it seems its only source is that July 2021 issue of White Dwarf
Hot damn praying for your freehand, i thought i had it bad for picking lamenters
This is a Salamander and crimson fist box by far. The reason why I pick crimson fists though is because the las cannon and missile laucher is a very classic dreadnought combo. However, you know who else would love some of those new terminators? Carcharodons. I rest my case your honor.
Plus, you get to paint their gauntlets like boxing gloves.
@@KameSennin4209 nice
@@baronzemo5301 yea, because it’s legal to use guilliman, ventris, and calgar in a list with vulkan and adrax. Forgot about that.
I got sharkboys coming up with this box for sure
Salamanders 🤠👍
Yeeeee yeeeeeee
I play Salamanders but hate what we've become in 10th. No personality, it's all down to whether you pick Vulkan and/or Adrax, and Adrax is crap.
I'm new to warhammer 40k and will start with this edition. I looked at the chapters and I've made up my mind that I'll play Salamander too. 🔥
When the new Detachments come out in the codex, hopefully there is an Immolation Force or something, geared towards the Salamanders purging and burning the heretics....
Vulcan lives!!
Kinda funny how the Leviathan boxset favors Salamanders and yet their decals are nowhere to be on seen on the transfer sheet that comes with the boxset
It doesn't really favor Salamanders. In my opinion Ultramarines are the best pick for the box, because of their HQs choices. They have a massive amount of good unique characters. And roboute guilliman is just on another level. The salamanders HQ choices are not as good as the Ultramarines ones. They are fine and all but to be fair: giving the infernus squad wound rerolls maybe sounds good on paper. But in reality it is not very strong, because the infernus squad is only S 5, AP 0. So this unit is only effective against light armoured infantery. But buffing units who are good against light armoured infantery won't win you games most of the time especially because the 10th edition favors elite units and vehicles because you don't need to bring standard infantery or something like that. Salamanders are in my opinion not the best choice in 10th edition (at least gameplay-wise). But they are not the weakest choice either.
last box was great for white scars and they got no transfers either
Cry harder non psyker
@@levvy16 that's because GW are massively biased. Either they want all Marines blue, or make the divergent Chapters vastly more interesting than the compliant ones.
@@Backpflaume666 Thats why aggressors are now the big cheese. They have ap-1 flamers when hitting nearest targets with built in reroll wounds and that gravis apothecary makes their melee nasty consistent
I think the Infernus squads actually fit the Blood Angels quite well. They do love their flamers, so they can run up and clear away chaff units for the assault units.
I’ll be running them as imperial fists, I already own some heavy intercessors and aggressors. So Tor Garadon and the Apothecary will have a place in my detachment!
Im a bit of a lore nerd so im going with the Dark Krakens, a salamander successor specialising in taking on hordes, seems a pretty perfect fit with all the flamers
Dark krakens specialise in hunting the biggest monsters and enemies I think
I've been building up my Dark Angels army up for a while and I have a good number of characters, not much in the way of battleline forces, so this box lines up perfectly for me
This was exactly what I was looking for! I'm new to the game and this was perfect. Trying to make the most out of the Leviathan box. Now I'm really looking hard at salamanders
Send what you want into the Leviathan's maw, it all taste the same, regardless of what color the candy wrapper is
Will you be sharing your freshly painted tyranids??
@@XerrolAvengerII soon as I get em lol
I'd like to add a note that the box being 980pts and the infernus marines being 90pts a squad of 5 hvy intercessors plug is SUPER easy and rounds it out to a nice flat 1000pts. That would also give the apothecary a place to go. 👍
wait.... i have primaris intercessors.... are they the same thing??? are the heavy intercessors on gw primaris size??
@@tonydiazist different unfortunately, higher str guns, higher toughness, different armor. Still primaris tho
@@venlocity2 oh okay so they are that primaris scale instead of first Borns. Okay tysm I'm new to the game and getting the leviathan so i wanted all my models to be "updated" scale
@@tonydiazist yeah they are primaris scale. Iirc they count as gravis armor, so think aggressors, eradicators, and whatnot
Mr Auspex! I just wanted to tip my hat off to you for the incredible amount of work and content you are putting out right now.
A bright light in thr dark of the warp.
If you wanted to go purist Space Wolves, you can technically run the sternguard as wolfguard and the infernus as two units of long fangs carrying heavy flamers
Feel the Emperor's lukewarm approval streaming down your power armor as Lamenters. Their lore fits perfectly as far as being on their very last legs as they return from their penance crusade only to get completely reconstituted and upgraded with Primaris and Cawl's new tech!
... And then fly directly into another hive fleet and get eaten lol.
Lamenters are also flexible between Gladius as a very codex compliant chapter, and Sons of Sanguinius as a Blood Angel successor chapter.
Plus their checkerboard bleeding heart chapter symbol is a great way to increase your patience and painting skills! It's not a glitch, it's a feature
One important factor you gotta take in before you pick an army, only one of them gives out hugs
This will be my first Space Marine army. I’m leaning toward either Salamanders or Imperial Fists right now.
Join the blood of Dorn battle brother! Our gene-sire demands it!
No Brother Join Your Battle Brothers Among The Salamanders For Vulken Lives *Stomp Stomp*
@@padfoot1178 Vulken may live but so does Dorn. Just wait. Also, although I appreciate and respect the Salamanders, please reference Helsreach as to why they are less effective in war. We Templars care about humanity because it is our charge but not at the cost of winning the war.
OP, In short- if you want to waste time saving a few humans instead of prioritizing killing war bosses, Salamanders are your guys. Also lots of fire. Which is cool.
However- if you despise sorcery, want to purge the galaxy of its disgusting Xenos filth, suffer not the unclean to live, take everything extremely seriously because you don’t understand jokes, get as close as possible using melee to see your enemy’s face as they die, have lots of cool tabards and relics, and chant inspiring and awesome litanies like “No Pity! no Remorse! No Fear! Die Well!” Then we are your guys.
Read or listen to the book Helsreach or watch the animation for free on TH-cam. The choice becomes clear. But if you do choose to go Salamander, I understand…
… I think my fellow Salamander commenter and I can both agree that at least you aren’t considering the Space Wolves
Salamanders here, just got back into 40k after about 10 years away (having previously played Crimson Fists since Rogue Trader days) and will be attaching the Leviathan force to the Salamanders Warpforged Strike Force and Strike Force Agastus models.
I think the agastus heavy intercessors or the Warpforged force agressors will pair well with the gravis apothecary, and adrax will certainly work well with the infernus. Pairing the ballistus and brutalis dreadnoughts will hopefully give a good balance too.
I plan to add them to a Blood Angels army. I agree, that these models by themselves aren't the greatest fit lore or play-wise, but I do think they can flesh out a larger force.
How are you planning on changing the Apothecary into a Sanguinary Priest? I’ve been struggling to figure out how to do it
@@liamcolliermusicwhy would you want to convert?
@@DavosTheDegen because apothecaries in the ranks of the blood angels are Sanguinary priests?
They are on par with the chaplaincy in terms of chapter structure.
@@rayvg7709 I just plan on running the biologus as it's standard unit tbf. Too much effort to convert an easy to build monopose kit
@@DavosTheDegenand the biological apothecary seems to be quite a good unit anyway I'm fairness
Turning the Terminator Librarian into a Chaplain or Apothecary will end up being essential for this particular Black Templar lover.
Only 1 model that Wolves can't use in this box and that's the apothecary. Other than that, it's a decent add on to a Wolf Force.
They can now per their new detachment rules...
@@changer_of_ways_999 True (I hadn't checked his keywords), but sadly he cannot heal anything. So Wolves still have no access to a healer. And I bet GW will FAQ i to say they can't take the Biologis either... GW hate Wolf Priests (or have forgotten they were a chaplain and medic rolled into one)
I've never sweated it if a model's intended configuration was incompatible with my intention. Into the bitz drawer with them!
@@mrgoober6320 that's exactly where he'll end up going.
I don't think the Apothecary Biologis heals anyone anyway.
I’m a Tyranid player but I’m keeping the marines for my little son to start learning to paint. And because his favorite color is Green it will be Salamders for him.
I think I will use the new flamer squad for Salamanders but I think the rest would make a good supporting force for Blood Angels, especially if you add some of the key characters / units!
It’s like you knew which video I was hoping you’d make
Great Video. At the moment there is a loophole for the Black Templars to use the Librarian: Gladius Task Force. The restriction is only on the BT Detachment, but it needs to be on the army rules section to be effective on all Detachments
My initial thought was that I would go Crimson Fists, as it fits very well. However I'm now leaning towards Blood Ravens as the idea of dropping in a small force and grabbing some Intel on the enemy fits as well.
Uriel ventris' ability, 6 stack aggressors + calgar and a biologis deep striked into the enemy
As a salamander player I was really hyped before we saw the reveal of the box content and the trailer. I thought the brutalis dread when we first saw it revealed and released was just going to be included in the box as well. The leviathan box would have definitely been a great fit for them and perhaps a better fit for SW and BT as well, maybe decent for Blood angels too. But nonetheless Im looking forward to spamming the starter sets a bit if the infernus marines and sternguard are in them like I have been predicting
I thought the same thing, was kinda hoping for a brutalis dread in there but I can't complain. I beat my wife's nurgle army the other day and she was so pissed that I hit with 1 eradicator and killed her beast of nurgle she started doing research on tyranids.
Yesterday she showed me the receipt for the leviathan box and a tervigon cause now she is a hive queen and my salamander successor chapter is going down lol.
However, I have been told I am not allowed to use any of the units inside of the box vs her new army 😢😢
@@derhawktb4022 lol damn goals! My girl would never particapte in the game. Iv told her about the lore a bit mianly due to the Cavil/Amazon announcement. The farthest Iv gone with her for any of my hobbies is Lego which she quite likes. So maybe one day lol.
Ah! The space marine side of the box is definitely overpowered compared to the Nids side. Out of all of the battle reports Iv seen, the two units for Nids that have been good are the screamer killer and barbguants. So I completely understnad haha
I can't wait to add these to my Ultramarines army! Still haven't played a single game of 40k, but 10th will make it happen 😁
Im going to use it to start a sons of the Phoenix force, so emperor's childr...... I mean imperial fists successor
With your previous "Is Leviathan Unbalanced" video in mind, I can not imagine any answer other than Ultramarines. Because only the guys who paint everything they own blue, in a universe where blue is literally the luckiest color, could be lucky enough to outpower their foes by such a margin without the editorial staff even thinking to question the game balance of it...
Now to watch the video and see if my hunch bears out.
Blood angels are what I'm going, those infernus marines are gonna be Hella fun alongside my baal preddies and land raider redeemers
Def building mine as Raven Guard. My gravis boys will enjoy a few less armored boys to send in first to soften things up a bit. Plus some extra shooting from sternguard.
I am converting old Hellblasters to swap as Infurnus Marines in an attempt to recreate the box line with my current toys. Those flame thowers are cool!
Yea. Blood angels suddenly forgot about the flaw in the Gladius and suddenly forgot about codex astartes in their own detachment. Wtf gw.
Carcharodons. I don't have a qualifying statement. Just Carcharodons.
Iron Hands successor. The termies and shooty dread are perfect, so is the biologis. The Sternguard and Infernus are okay and useful.
I am a Chaos player since 2nd ed and this is my first venture into loyalist territory. Always loved the Dark Angel scheme so I will go with that.
Made my own homebrew paint scheme ever since I started with SM and never regretted it😊
Salamanders, not only you get a lot of flamers, but also everyone here is C H O N K E R.
Bit of a weird choice, but I grabbed a copy of the Storm of Chogoris box a while back - so I think im gonna start White Scars.
This box + bastion strike force makes for an incredible Imperial Fists army - gonna be building my Captain in the box as Lysander anyway
My thoughts exactly!
I love having the versatility of a custom scheme I'm happy with
This is the perfect video that I was looking for. Never played Warhammer before but me and a friend split the Leviathan box and I chose the Space Marines. I think I am going to theme my dudes as Leviathan Marines, a special task-force created to combat Tyranids. I'll paint them uniquely from chapters so I can use any chapter rules without a flavor-fail, maybe stripe them a bit with the colors of each chapter
Great video really helped answer my questions. Im a new player and playing templars and getting the box to buff up my baby army. I was plqnning on using the terminators and their captain the sternguard, infernus squad and dreadnaught.😊
My entire marine collection is painted as Black Templar so they’ll be joining the crusade.
With the rules the way they are though im toying with fielding a Gladius task force and then going back /forth between gladius and Templar specific detachments based on army construction
My marine's paint scheme is based on a racing car livery (Gulf Oil - light blue and orange) so I see them as a mix between White Scars and Ironhands.. Gotta go fast with vehicles, plasma and flamethrowers. While the box main not be incredibly fitting, the models are so nice that I dont really care.. plus the Tyranid half is really the reason why I bought it, the Marines are just a nice little addition.
Interesting color scheme, but do lean into it and have endorsement ads on you power armor? :)
I've decided to paint my box as Black Templars and swap out the Terminator Librarian for a Terminator Chaplain Tarentus I got back in 2020
I’m splitting my leviathan box between my Deathwatch and Black Templar armies since I feel most of the characters and Dread fit the Deathwatch vibe much better than they do the Templars one
I play White Scars but I still got the box cause more marines is more marines. And while for the most part I stick to a fast paced melee and bike based army I still like having big tanky units just cause they are fun to use as support units that can blast big monsters off the board
My guy I have woken up at 4:00am cus I can’t sleep and see you uploading! It’s true this man never sleeps to deliver us videos
This is kinda of late but I think the Space Marines in the 10th trailer might have been winning if we're going off the Leviathan Box it's based on. Like they have at least an Infernus on the home objective, the Neurotyrant died because the Captain engaged it and he's still alive at the end, the Apothecary survived the Leaper ambush since he's the one to suicide bomb to kill the Rippers and some Gaunts, and I think the Librarian wiped the Barbgaunts. Yeah they lost the Dreadnought, a lot of Sternguards and the Apothecary but all around they're honestly fine.
We can argue about the best one.
But the worse one is probably Deathwatch as it has no special shoulder parts
Its my first Space Marine set so I'm choosing Blood Angels. Feels like a good start to build off of. Dark Angels and Death Watch were my next choices
Gravis and Terminator should be interchangeable for character support. I might get leviathan for my shooting platform as space wolves ( intend to use the Captain in a kitbashed Terminator pack, don't know for the others
Hope Vulkan and Adrax get a re-do. Currently I find their rules and abilities a bit lacking.
Vulkan's sculpt especially is adorable in comparison to others. (Still listed as on a 25 mm base.)
I heavily disagree. Vulkan is an amazing objective holder, but also great for overwatch. Remember you can overwatch in an enemy movement phase as well, so they just need to walk by the objective to get torched without charging. Adrax's thunder hammer can take on predators, so that's great. His problem is that none of the squads he can combo with is that great. If he can run with bladeguard or aggressors, he'd be fine.
@@TuShan18 wow, you’re actually 100% right, I stand corrected.
100% agree re: Adrax running with blade guard or aggressors.
I do pity anyone who repaints their whole army to say its a chapter. More than likely just add Guilliman or whatever character they want and say "they look like white scars, but I assure you they are Ultramarines"
i just realized that when painted with leviatham colors the screamer killer looks like it has a diminishing hairline
As always mine will be thinly veiled Alpha Legion loyalists. This time around they'll be bronze age greek themed instead of Aztec.
I will be purging the unclean with my templars.
I bought the raven strike boxset before this so I'm going Raven Guard for my leviathan box. Might not be the best choice but I'm excited to put it all together
Adrax Agatone does not actually buff Assault Intercessors rn since they already reroll wound rolls inately. Definitely an oversight, also why can't he lead Bladeguard? They wear tacticus armor and would be an ideal fit both lore and gameplay wise.
Counting the Terminators as Deathwatch Terminators opens up more weapon options for them, as well as leadership checks for enemies when in melee range.
I was thinking about converting all the termies to BA, and using the rest of the box to start a new DA army, what do you all think?
@@skulver i dunno either, but you can always paint him as a successor chapter captain or chaptermaster, that would be cool to have
Why not paint the termies as Deathwing? I'm having a hard time between Iron Hands and BA, having more than one color scheme for DA is a big plus (and I love Deathwing's bone armor)
@@SamsButterscotch Two reasons:
1- I feel strongly that a Deathwing update is coming this edition with the new scale termies, and I'd rather wait for those.
2- I love the Idea of adding some BA termies to my small army, and out of everything in the box they seem to be the only thing that will be useful for BAs.
That being said I haven't made my decision yet and those Deathwing terminators would look SICK!
@@TENGUartesmarciales
With DA's codex being the first to release, I'm thinking you're right thinking some Deathwing Knights refresh is on the way.
It's a tough call, but you can never go wrong with Blood Angels 🤘
Just saying that you could have a force of black templars and a librarain because the restrictions are on the detachment. However, if you did... we can no longer be friends.
You’re not going to like what I was doing in 9th then…. Inquisitors weren’t librarians, so RAW one could come along….
@@timunderbakke8756 I'm okay with inquisitors, however I'm not okay with implying the existence of a black templar librarius.
My marines are painted in the Raptors scheeme...so I guess I have to wait for a phobos oriented detachment in the codex
I'm painting mine as white scars, not super on theme but I love white scar veterans and their red helmets
For my first foray into 40K minis I'm gonna go with the Ultramarines. Romans in space? Yea let me get that.
I went Deathwatch and got the Combat Patrol pack just before the Leviathan box came out. This will however be my 2nd army project.
Gonna do some kitbashing with my marine half to make them look even more like Salamanders
Can't wait to finally get my box
Every time I'm mulling something you put out a video for it.
I collect Ultramarines and Black Templars. Going to be putting melee focussed guys in Black Templar army and shooty stuff in the Ultramarines! Might convert 5 of the infernus marines into a desolation squad with some devastator bits.
Wow… actually caught this as the video dropped
I am still busy building and painting my force called the Indomitus Crusaders who can simply integrate many of the units from the Ultramarines that suites my playing style, including the 1st Company and the Terminators units that first fought the Tyranids. I just need to read the rules carefully to ensure that I build my lists well for each game as I have a lot of units now.
Really enjoyed this! Fists seems like a nice choice to me! Although thought the same about the Librarian for a Rune Priest! :)
I expect to use them for Dark Angels a new army I will start
Honestly Black Templars looks awesome, since they already have pyreblasters iirc
i quite like the idea of being able to paint other chapters for mixed forces
Dark Angels for me. Thinking about a head swap for the sternguard (hood or winged helmets) and possible kit bash for the Terminator Captain to Belial
I'm having a hard time deciding, that's why I watched the video! 😅 The marine armies I'd been working on are DA Ravenwing and Phobos themed Ravenguard (I know lots of Ravens and lots of black). But this force doesn't fit super well with either thematically. I guess it could be part of a combined DA army pretty well. It's not terrible for either, but also not perfect. So I don't know if I should do one or the other or something completely different! I may just paint the tyranids first so I can decide on the SMs later.
I was planning on breaking them up into different chapters myself
Going to go spacewolf just can't watch for some good weather to do the primeing
*Cries in White Scar*
Raptor Legion. No special reason, just love painting those guys !
Now hang on one goddamn second. I get that you rate the Blood Angels low because the box has anything besides jump packs and chainswords (which is such a narrow way of thinking of Blood Angels but I'll accept it because they do fit best there), but how are you going to rank them low on _lore_ when *Hive Fleet Leviathan is the Hive Fleet that devastated Baal?* This box is a grudge match! This is round 2! This is justice for Baal! Lore-wise, Blood Angels are the BEST fit! There's a _little_ more to the army than jump packs and chainswords; not _that_ much, but at least give us this!
I would paint this up as Blood Angels anyway, because they're just my favorite chapter anyway, and I'm working on a Blood Angel successor chapter that focuses more on a slow, unstoppable march forward rather than a blitz charge, so Terminators fit my vibe better than jump packs anyway.
I'm gonna paint up the combat patrol as Blood Angels (classic Space Hulk scheme innit) and send the rest to my Templars.
Just want to throw an odd ball in there, there will all be going for my souldrinkers
I am turning mine into Loyalist Alpha Legion.
Ditto
I'm fairly new to all this but I've looked online and can't seem to find an answer to my question regarding Imperial fists - I like the look of them, but does the librarian work for them? A lot of people seem to think that Imperial fists would never use a psyker?
Salamander player here, still testing Vulkan with them.
Crimson fists, heroes of Rynn’s World
I'm going Crimson Fists. Got Vets and a dread. Get Pedro in to lead the vets and they might get really nasty
Adding these to my Flesh Tearer marines.
rules vise you can not take a chapter specific character in a chapter specific detachment they do not fit into, other wise go nuts :)
i my self think i will use the Black templars Detachment with the Feel No Pain for my Iron Hands and ditch Iron Farther Feirros.
The whole point of the hobby is to take your time and have fun painting your favorite army from the lore. Rules and proxies are another thing.
Alpha Legion.
You have Unkillable chaos lord with halved damage
Sorcerer that gives -1Ap
Chaos termies squad that takes bonuses from lord or sorc
Helbrute with lascannon and missile launcher that buffs Dark pacts of every unit around
Warp Flamer rubrick marines with new armor vessel for their lost souls and greater AP from termie sorx target
Thick Fabius Bile
5 chosen
And Exalted champion who with Khorne relic will take up to 8A 11 str -2AP(-3 under sorc target) 2D monster with guaranteed 7A 7Str
For the Templars, it's fairly simple to convert the Librarian into a Chaplain. Makes him pretty useful.
Crimson fists for me except I’m going to steal the Librarian and half of the infernus marines for my Dark Angels.
I painted indomitus up as blood angels, but I really fancy imperial fists.
I created my first Space Marine Chapter right before Leviathan was previewed and decided it would be my 10th edition army. I finished the concept and color scheme. And then Leviathan was totally wrong for it! Indomitus was perfect, so that's what I'm using! 😅