Last Raw Driver's Car? Honda S2000 Tested!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 14 ต.ค. 2024
- We are back with another episode of The Slip Angle where we put Quinn's built all motor AP1 Honda S2000 out on track. Was the S2000 the last raw driver's car before the dawn of the electronic car era?
Specs:
Engine:
F20C with original 127k mile bottom end
Head Shaved .015
Spoon Sports Thinner Headgasket
Compression ~11.8:1
Brian Crower Stage 2 Camshafters
Supertech Dual Valvesprings
Supertech Titanium Retainers
Fluidamper Light Weight Crank Pulley / Harmonic Balancer
T1R Light Weight Water Pump and Alternator Pulleys
J’s Racing 4-2-1 Exhaust Manifold
T1R 70mm Resonated Test Pipe
GQM Spec Q300 70mm Catback with Vibrant Resonator, Schedule 40 Tips and Internal Silencers Removed
J’s Racing Carbon Fiber Intake
Skunk 2 70mm Throttle Body
Port Matched Intake Manifold
Haltech Platinum Pro ECU
232 whp and 148 lb/ft on a DynoJet
Cooling:
Koyo Radiator
Koyo Radiator Hoses
Drivetrain:
Fidanza 7 lb Flywheel
OEM Honda Pressure Plate and Clutch Disk
Suspension:
Tein Monosport Coilovers
Blox Drive Shaft Spacers
Megan Toe Links
-2.4′ Camber Front
-1.8′ Camber Rear
1/16′ toe in Front
1/8′ toe in Rear
Caster wherever we wound up
Wheels, Tires, Brakes
Advan RG-II Wheels
17×8.5 +51 R and 17×7.5 +45 F
Continental DWS 245/40/17 R and 225/45/17 F
Stainless Braided Brake Lines
Chassis:
Stock
Exterior:
Amuse R1 Front Bumper
Forbidden Mugen Style Double Sided Carbon Fiber hardtop
Forbidden Billet Rear Hardtop Latches
Ballade Aluminum Front Hardtop Latches
Seibon Carbon Fiber Hood
OEM Rear Trunk Spoiler
Interior:
Personal Neo Grinta 350mm Wheel Suede with Green Stitching
Personal Green Horn Button
NRG Version 2 Quick Release
NRG Short Steering Wheel Hub
NRG SRS Resistor
Maven Performance Stainless Shift Knob
Recaro Speed Seats
Planted Seat Bases
Modified Recaro Sliders
Weight Reduction:
Power Soft Top Assembly Deleted
Cruise Control Deleted
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So we have to ask the question, do you guys like episodes of The Slip Angle like this or our more recent series Slip Angle Spotlight better? Let us know!
Really enjoy both. The recent spotlight vids have really taken it up a notch though. Very impressive and so easy to watch.
Been enjoying both but I'd give the edge to the spotlight series.
I like them all but I really hoping to see some videos and lap times for the M coupe and the M3!
Jordan S this will happen for sure!
more miatas please!!!!
I respect the effort it took to shoot this video!
Thank you Sir! :)
Sliding an S2 is not the easiest... after that first clip instant subbbbb! Underrated channel!
They are lethal when they slide
Cheers to that! Thank you! :)
And pretty much why almost every used AP1 you see has multiple accidents on the Carfax, haha...
Love the way you build your cars. Not over the top or outrageous. Every mod is well thought out and has a purpose. Love the simplistic look too. Keep it up!
Thank you Edward!
Mmmm! Finally the s2000 is back! The anticipation for this video was hard but so worth it! You guys sure know how to shoot a beautiful video! Your car is so gorgeous and so is your driving skill. You need to keep driving her and dont hide her for another 2 years lol
Thank you Bobby! Oh believe me, I am still enamored by this car. Even though I built my NB to be an S2000 replacement, sometimes there's just nothing quite like the real thing. Next time this car goes off the road will be either from an engine failure or for ITB install, whichever happens first lol ;)
@@TheSlipAngle ITBs! That sounds sweet, but do they do any power for an s2000? Dont think I've seen one with any
Certainly is a balancing act between all out grip and all out fun! I much preferred my Turbo Mx5 on 195 AD08Rs over the 215 R888Rs. Lap times suffered but it was totally worth it and sooo much more progressive and engaging! Great vid Quinn, Looking forward to getting my AP1 out for a few track days soon, Oulton Park and Anglesey in the next couple of months.
Thank you buddy!
It is such a shame that Honda no longer makes high rpm engines anymore...
Yup, they made the best naturally aspirated production 4 cylinders :(
@Matt Wiser - but that’s what makes the cars that are still on the road worth so much (once prices start going up for super clean OEM examples)
Honda has been playing around with 8,000rpm+ since the 80s and 90s. Seems like the time has come for them to actually make TORQUE and play with Turbo’s, which is what they’re doing now. Haha.
Save the B, H, K and C series engines!!!
Artem Brayson yeah I know, it’s just so sad to see the end of such an epic era. I guess it won’t be long before super clean examples start coming up for sale as imports from Japan. I would assume a clean low mileage US car is probably stupid expensive...
@@I_know_what_im_talking_about you left out F20/22 😉
turbo is were you end up anyway
Wow! Hearing those revs made me miss my 2003. I sold it to score a 94 MR2 Turbo and while the MR2 was more of a "special" car, the S2K's gearbox and motor response destroys it.
I’ve owned my 04 s2000 with 7000 miles since 2012 and since then have purchased another daily to keep it company. To this day, it still puts a smile on my face. Hardtop on and hardtop off.
Woo!
Mad skills. Your ability to explain the driving dynamics while you're driving is key, and elevates hooning to professorial levels.
Thank you David! 🙌🙌
Quinn’s a V good multitasker
My friends swear by this car and it definitely is impressive even almost 20 years later.
he didn't say anything about the suspension?!
@@abc.garage i thought he did. I may be wrong
Every one of your car and the modifications are amazing. Tests are absolutely what those should be. Nailed it again. Congrats mate.
Thank you Nihat!
The last drivers car is actually the NC Miata and the S2k. They're basically the same exact car, same weight, same length, same interior, same body and shape, identical tire size and same engine size. Both have a lot of aftermarket. If you want an S2K but can't afford one get a 2009 - 2015 NC Miata
Waiting for my AP2 to get back from the shop, I'm jealous!
@The Slip Angle keep up the entertaining content. I like watching you guys drive and seeing the statistics. I'm actually thinking about saving up for a Miata to try my hand at track events.
Thanks brother!
All the videos you guys put out are all good. Love em. I would love to have my miata on The Slip Angle. Just gotta straighten a few things out it.
Thank you Edwin! Hit us up when you do!
Haven’t finished watching the video yet (it’s awesome BTW) but the last great raw and useable drivers cars are Lotus in my opinion. They are just epic cars to drive
;)
The Elise with a 2ZZ is really a fun car to drive
@@Vingt-trois1 I can only imagine how fun an Elise is . I have a 2zz Celica as a daily and it's really fun to drive for a budget Toyota . I also have an S2000 but I've always wanted to drive an Elise or 2zz swapped MR2-S
Nice I prefer rwd car, not a fan of fwd, and it's funny I planned myself to build a ZZW30, but I don't know which engine 2ZZ or K24, humm hard choice.
This is purely awesome. Great video!
Thank you!
Great editing and driving as ever :). I wish you had combined this with a talking part going through the car and the mods (as in what was done to achieve the 232whp) and why you love it so much - by hey, that can be another video (just don't leave it so long this time :p) . Shame it wasn't on some AD08Rs or similar for the lap time, but wouldn't have been so lairy (which I understand makes better viewing), but is obviously slower than grip driving.
Thanks Mike! This mod list is in the description so the formula was bumping compression, bigger cams, good header and accommodating breather mods tuned.
@@TheSlipAngle I know, but I enjoy hearing you talk about why you chose those particular mods (as you always give an honest opinion / review), your experience of perhaps some mods to avoid, how each mod affected the dynamics of the car, who did the mapping, what type of dyno you used, what future mods are planned (and why) etc. Call me a geek, but I'm far more interested in the details (as it is what makes the difference between a modified car and a great modified car ;)), rather than just a generic overview.
Oh believe me I love detail like that too, unfortunately majority of the world does not and they'll click off the video which hurts us tremendously lol.
The Slip Angle I know how much it is a balancing act, but a combination of both might work even better👍.
From :58 to 1:35, he talks about all of the power mods/"what was done to achieve 232whp."
So beautiful!
Thank you Antuan!
Audio man!!! You're always solid on audio, I hear two of you.
Keep it up though!
Hey Sh*t happens :)
Saw this on ig explorer feed yesterday, now I’m here
Awesome Uriel!
I wish I would’ve never sold my AP1 I miss it so much. Desperate times call for desperate measures 😢
Sorry to hear brother, we all have to do what we have to do to survive sometimes. I hope you find your way back into one down the road.
Awesome video. I really like the front lip. Is it a part of the bumper or is it a separate piece?
Amuse R1 Bumper ;)
I am interested in purchasing one. Do you mind sharing where I could purchase one.
S2000 is high up on my wish list for a next track car. It's slightly slower than the RX8 on your track, what tires did you had on the RX8?
Shit tyres lol, he said he likes the car playful and as the 8 is not really powerful he put shitty tyres on it
So great to see your AP1 S2000 back on the channel! Loved watching your 'Road Impressions' video and I recommended so many people to watch it haha. One question - was it tricky to find an aftermarket seat that could neatly fit in the S2000? I heard that is an issue with FD RX-7s.
Thank you! Fitting seats in both of those cars is always a challenge. The S2000 is even tighter than the FD
Recaro Pole Positions also fit straight in. If you go for the ABE version, there is also no issue with the belt buckle👍👌.
@@MikeRT4 Nice, thats great to know Mike! I heard Recaro Pole Positions are pretty comfortable despite being lightweight!
@@jamescarson6681 They are indeed - I did 3000 miles in 8 days touring Spain a few years ago and they were totally comfortable to do that :). That was on Ohlins dampers as well (10k/10k). They are epic cars and so much better than those girly Miatas ;).
@@MikeRT4 Wow even with your aggressive suspension/coilover setup, thats remarkable to hear 👍. I guess thats why Honda chose those seats for their NSX-R. To be fair, the MX-5s have always been priced relatively lower than the S2000s (when they were both brand new), so thats probably why the F20c engines will always remain unbeaten in the 4 cyl naturally aspirated RWD category. Honestly, the 2019 model ND MX-5 with BBR's 'Super 220' comes pretty close to the experience you'll get from the S2000 (even though it took them at least 20yrs to catch up 😅).
Love your videos man, you're my favourite car driver besides Chris Harris, real passion every time you're behind the wheel! Quick question, have you driven the NSX? Seeing you love the s2000, I'm super curious about your opinion!
Thank you brother! Chris Harris is my favorite automotive journalist so that compliment means a lot! I actually just drove one for the first time this weekend! It was a 91 with some minor mods. Great car, especially for an old 90s car. Fantastic gearbox and steering just like the S2000. The car isn't as go-kart like in feel as the S2000 and the long gearing hurt its fun factor for street driving. Sharper 2nd gear turns were very uneventful. We will be releasing two videos for it soon :)
@@TheSlipAngle wow thanks for responding! I can't wait for these videos! Keep them coming!
Anytime, thank you!
I watch this video everytime I miss my s2000. It's not gone, just stored away for winter :(
:)
Love the video & the build as well!
Awesome! Thank you!
Nice video the hardest decision i made is to buy my na r package miata over a ap2 s2000. I might pick one up later or crx 😜
Enrique Alvarez I bought an na r package too but now i want an s2k.. 😆
S2000 Sauce is V dangerous lol
@@DriveItRyan S2k FTMFW :p ;)
Big fan of this episode!!
Thank you Mark!
S2000 It's a nice handring car ❣️
I have ap2 ❗️
What Brake rotors and Pads you running in your Machines ? My s2k Needs replacement and have been using EBC Yellow in my MRS and Tarox Corsa in s2k... WOuld like to try something different this time and my driving style is similar to yours hahah
Good driving! What’s the spec of your wheels? Thanks!
17x7.5 +38 17x8.5 +51
Hey - on that shine bumper, how hard was it to fit? was the fitment pretty spot on?
Awesome car! Which size are your wheels?
He's wasnt looking for track times he's just having fun burning rubber around the track, when I track my RX8 for times i mostly forget thats why am there and just drive the same way lol
You make sliding it look so easy i always spin out lol
Nice
Christ that's a ton of work and money for those power numbers guess I'm going supercharged I hope that's enough for the thrills
Tokyo JZA80 check LHT performance
Awesome driving, amazing car.
OEM diff/LSD?
Yes, it is!
@@TheSlipAngle they are apparently weak but you seem to have no issues 😘
Accidental kiss
Hey dude, do most guys that casually track their cars like this get some kind of race insurance for the day or do most just wing it and hope they don't trash their car and fix it out of pocket worst case? Interested in tracking my car there soon, and not sure if I should get insurance for it. I don't even plan to have full coverage for the street with my rx8 since all my cars are under 10k in value. Thanks
For this venue, track insurance is not worth it. It's very low risk here. For Lime Rock big track, it may not be a bad idea. Almost every track day there someone leaves the track on a flatbed.
Hey Quinn. I get your tire "strategy" to be able to hoon around cars. I run my miata with sticky 100tw tires. Since I drive it in all weather, I can hoon it around in the rain and then experience endless grip in the dry. What do you think about that? Do you drive in the rain too? Maybe your RX8.
P.S. 100tw tires are quite hoonable in the dry if they are cold :)
I've been there and done that. It used to be 200 TW religiously for all of the cars. The problem is that doesn't rain all that much and I am not competing with anyone. The other problem is that when it's warm out there is just too much grip and it means going much faster to exploit the chassis. As I get older, the consequences weigh in too much. Not to mention, too much grip just makes the car boring for me. I want the car to be loose and alive. Even with a tire handicap I can out drive just about anyone if I need to on the street (Not that I wind up in those situations often ever since the enthusiast scene is kind of dead in New England) This track surface is much less grippy than the street too, so keep in mind I am not getting this much hoonability on the street like I can in these track videos. So the tire choices I run offer a great balance. I still have to work a little to get big rotation on the street so they allow a little fun safely without having to go stupid fast.
@@TheSlipAngle Thanks for an answer. I'll probably will arive at the same point some day. Since I'm just starting out, I enjoy the grip :)
.........hate to say this on such a video, but it is relevant. the abarth 500 is certainly a drivers car even if its not that fast. although, they are now discontinued in north america.
No 3rd gears were harmed in the making of this video 😅 lol. But awesome driving. I'd like to drift my s2k like that one day.
The new Lime Rock layout has a straight where you can use 3rd now :)
Nice cant wait to bring my car to the track I have a 2000 ap1 with 125k miles.
Nice! This car has 128k miles on it ;)
Sweet,I just passed 236k ,in an 02 ap1
Love how your car (+all your other cars pretty much) 'rotates' when cornering - what the Japanese car enthusiasts would called 'zero countersteer' when they drive EVOs with their AYC systems. By the way, how do you find your 'Hardtop Quieting' mod for your S2000? Has it still been quite effective at reducing interior noise? Thanks Quinn!
Thanks brother! The quieting mod helps but make no mistake, the S2000 is and always will be a noisier cabin.
I bought an S2000 and was disappointed, I own a Civic EP3 Type R (I live in Europe) and the S2K is less raw to me, the Vtec kicks in way stronger in the K20A2 than the F20C... on the other hand the chassis of the S2K is better since its lower CG and therefore less roll etc, the top down is great but engine wise I prefer my civic! Ended up selling the S2K and bought an STI.
How’s the fitment with the recaro sr3? Any modifications to the seats what tails did you use?
They are tight. I did an install video a while back for these seats in my old red AP2 S2000 to show what was required.
What seats are those? Nice driving btw.
Recaro Speeds
Have you tried a properly setup square wheel/tire combo? You went with slightly larger staggered wheels and tires, right?
I've driven square setups. I'm running a slightly smaller stagger than the stock AP2 stagger, so 225/245 vs 215/245 of the stock AP2. I'd like to find another set of the rear RG2's I have on here to make it square, but I think it's going to require aftermarket fenders to fit.
@@TheSlipAngle so you do prefer the way a square setup drives? I was curious as to why you kept the staggered wheel setup when you upgraded your wheelset.
I went from a 225/255 to a 255/255. I added a stiffer/larger, eibach fsb and J's RCAs to balance it out. It works great. Deeper braking and more cornering grip.
Going 255 square does require fender roll w/slight flare+rear tab relocation, and RCAs can't hurt.
How do you get into the smaller track at limerock, do you have to wait for an event or can you go on anytime?
They run events on the small track all season long. It's called their summer auto x days.
If you're not trail braking into a slide into every corner you're not driving an S2000 correctly. This guy is driving an S2000 correctly.
Front Midship Life ;)
Wow. Nice skills!💪👍
Thank you!
Awesome
🙌🙌
Would love to see u drive a type R like that😉
I can’t believe it !!! Finnallyyy
Rejoice! lmao :p
Thought the car was an automatic lol stays in second gear the entire time the track must be a tight track
9000 RPM makes for a pretty long 2nd gear lol.
How tall are you . Tryna figure out how my steering wheel is gonna fit lol
I still have my 2002
ITB! ITB! :)
ZOMG YES!
So how many tenths would you shave off with stickier 200tw tires
At least .5 on this track, maybe a tenth or two more.
What is the better drivers car, S2000 or DC2 Integra type R?🤔
RWD all day, so S2000 :)
Am I not paying attention or does he go through that entire course without shifting gears?
FINALLY
Agreed!
that hardtop doesn't squeak at all
2nd gear the whole time?
9000 with the stock final drive makes for a pretty long 2nd gear in the car lol
You have plans to change gear ratio?
You mention that you want a shorter final drive for the s2000 right. I think you can fit your old 4.4 ring and pinion that you remove from your rx8 to your s2000. You can also get a 4.77 for it ( same as your new diff in your rx8). Search weir perfromance. Theyre selling it for 300-400 usd. I have an s2000 ap1 with 4.77 (source from a kia sportage 4wd front diff )and a subaru brz with 4.88 ( source from an aftermarket motive gear toyota v6 8, inch) final drive. Really wakes up the car. If you use the old rx8 4.4, you might get away of just reusing the bearings and shims from the rx8 ( provided they use the same pinion bearing and side bearings as your s2000) so you dont need to reshim it. Just check your backlash and teeth contack with diff marking paint after the swap. Goodluck with the swap.
The RX-8 uses an 8" ring and pinion so it won't fit unfortunately. There was an article floating around that said it was 7" but that is incorrect. The S2000 uses a 7" just like the Miata and the Kia. I had a Kia 4.77 in one of my Miata differentials for a while. I almost want to switch to an AP2 trans for the better cruise rpm in 6th and shorter 1-5. With that I'd just throw my spare 4.3 from a Miata in my stock diff and call it a day :)
@@TheSlipAngle oh dang i didnt know that. I though it would be like the rx7 and miata. I learn something new.
FD RX-7 is also 8". FC N/A RX-7s were 7" :)
Got the same year. Similar engine build.
Nice mate. What did you do to yours and what were your results?
And the rear DWS turned into.... D... well, those are probably gone too
LOL they actually stayed together for once in my life :X
The J's Racing is the best sounding exhaust you can put on a S2000 period!
I have never actually driven an S2000 but I was always told they are sketchy to drive hard. What mod would you suggest to reduce the sketch? Or is it a myth? Guilty... commented before I watched. Moral of the story seems to be Miata. :) lol
Honda revised the rear subframe and upper control arms on the AP2 that reduced the toe change under compression. AP1s get better with a proper alignment and some adjustable toe links in the rear.
If you drive like a mad man than yes it will bite you in the ass, but if you drive normal fine.
@@jaydems2k10 What fun is normal? I would rather drive like a mad man in control
@@kevinlauterbach8356 than you would hit a pole
I have one, the key is to have smooth inputs, no jerking the wheel or stabbing the brake or throttle
Lotus Ellis was a beast just like this
Was? They still make Elises.
What about the e92 m3
wow i'm surprised the rx-8 was faster around the track
Tires.
The RX-8's tires a little grippier, the RX-8 gearing was a more ideal for this track and it's suspension does much better with bumps, so those factors lead to the slightly faster laptime. If tire grip was the same, the S2000 should have the advantage due to it's higher power output and lower weight.
RIP evo9 and s2k's
Man where is that outro beat from??
Ketsa - Waxing Waning ;)
@@TheSlipAngle omg thank you so much you beautiful human I wish you all the clutch kicks and heel toe downshifts in the universe
@@Shakshuka69 lmao anytime brother
Gorgeous car with correct upgrades.. Find a bigger track ;)
S2000 is made for small tracks like this
Just passed 236k,in an 02 ap1
Awesome!
Imagine the track time on 200 treadwear
Would be much faster!
My guy said 2 years he didn’t drive it, meanwhile I haven’t driven mine for like four years ffs
Life happens to all of us sometimes
Cuz you need to fix yo shit fam
Why the the year break?
Life happens sometimes ;)
@@TheSlipAngle usually opposite of plans
NA build?
I’m in! 🇯🇵
VTEC!!!
BwaaaaaaaaaAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I have an Ap1 and a Prelude. S2k is more fun to drive ,better engine and brakes but trough corners Prelude is faster
The S2000 should have the advantage through the corners. Inherently it has the better out of the box suspension layout, so both equally developed would still leave the S2000 with the upper hand.
@@TheSlipAngle watch that Jun Prelude at Touge with the same power vs MCR S2000. Maybe you should try a Prelude and see
@@endlesstwisties I've seen it. It's all setup. I'm just saying the S2000's double a-arm setup stock for stock produces more mechanical grip
@@TheSlipAngle did you know Prelude is double wishbone front and rear with 8 ball joints?! Because some have that 4ws. Is just as good on suspension side like first Nsx. Also with F1 technology in the 90s. Also with Senna's help. I had my Prelude first so i needed something better . According to the great Internet , S2k is the best affordable Honda N/A. So . I was pleasantly surprised with high end power and better brakes and some other things. But while exiting the corner you have to fight all the time with steering wheel to control the car. Way slower than my 4th gen on exits. And it matter because you built speed on exits for next line. I have potenza on both cars. My ap1 bone stock tho. Because you have a channel and tested more cars i am sure you can find a 4th gen . Not 5th because is poor weight distribution. 4th is closer to 50/50. And i am taking about time not the fun factor.
@@endlesstwisties yes I am familiar. Not saying it's bad by any means. Honda did some great suspension setups. Anytime you are asking the the front tires to turn and accelerate at the same time you are putting them at a disadvantage over a car just asking them to turn. The Jun Prelude was competitive against the MCR S2000 but was still a little slower than the orange Amuse S2000. Again it's all setup and what you are trying to do. No car is the wrong answer. I personally just prefer RWD 😉
Lmao all that engine shit and 25 HP? WTF. At what point do you say let me just get a 2014 Cayman S? Great driving btw. I have a 2003 S2000.
If you gave me the choice between a cayman s and an s2000 id take the cayman s sell it and buy an s2000
@@lollol-xp4mc I've owned both and assure you the CS is on a different level.
Dam can’t decide S2000 or Z4m
S2k 👍🏻
Why not both? ;)
Z4m all the way
I thought the brz and 370z are the last NA raw sports cars.
What's up "GUYS?!?!! did you just assume our gender?!"
Lawls JK. I wish I could drive as well as you can.
LMAO! Oh myyyyyy ;)
Ok it may be a good race track car but NOT a good driver's car. You're stuck in traffic for hours and the engine noise alone becomes unacceptable. Try commuting from say San Diego to LA after X'mas and stuck on I-5. Plus to get the best one needs to rev it. My personal opinion, Miata is the better choice, not as highly strung, yes it does not rev to 9000 rpm but so what as you use it on public roads anyway.
I use the term driver's car referring to all of the spirited driving / race scenarios. I would agree with you that this is not a good daily driver.
Great video however, pish music lol!
If you keep driving like that your diffs won’t last long for sure.
It's still going with 127k miles on the clock. 50k of those miles are with me driving it doing stuff like this. I think these diffs fail when people shock the driveline with launches and money shifts
Great car!.... but seems a little too civilized compared to the visceral MX5...Just too "comfy" sounding inside. Even your reaction seems subdued throwing the tail around....compared to the MX5....Your "adrenaline" shows in the Mazda....I am sold on the Mazda hands down judging only by the internal videos alone!!...
I hate it say it buddy but the S2000 wins in almost every category with the exception of weight over the NB
You haven't drove it in two years? How can anyone own an S2000 and not drive it for 2 years. I'd drive that car everyday and I wouldn't shift until I hit 9000 in every gear every time. It would need a new engine once a week😀
probably because he has like 2 rx7 and an rx8 which he daily when you own those cars you tend to forget what a honda is
Life happens
this is my car. i havent drove it in 2 years... what
Life and work gets busy sometimes lol
Check out "civicky "
S2k vs Rx8
did not even see a shift
The track is not big enough
Quinny givin it some... :) :0 Bmw....nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo........ N x
I'd be cool if you actually did a normal timed lap instead of just drifting.
Did you watch? The first half is timed fast laps with the lap times and data acquisition displayed at the end.