Thanks for the tip. I was thinking about buying this one figuring I don't have a resonance reducer yet. Lol. Didn't know Ozone had one, i only use it for mastering. I use Neutron a lot when mixing, but the sculptor module isn't quite the same.
@@EricJohnson-fh8zj Glad I could help! I also highly recommend the Ozone Clarity and Spectral Shaper modules if you want more control over attack and release. You can even choose if you wanna target brown, pink or white noise with the tilt slider.
I have learned from hard (that is my messy) results not to depend on swiss-army knife like plugins. Yes, it looks great - but i tend to go down a sonic rabbit hole. Still, it sounds like a lot of value for money. I'd recommend it to any musician who wants to DIY
Thanks to your video I just grabbed this plugin. Unfortunately, compared to other resonance suppressors this one actually destroys the audio, even with minimal reduction. It works very aggressively, like it's processing very tiny bits of audio separately (similar to basic pitch shifters where we can set - and hear - the "grain"). This may not be audible at low settings because it's lost in the mix but it does what we hear when clicking the global solo (reacting way too fast to the incoming audio), and it starts sounding like a fuzz pedal at higher sensitivity settings. Other plugins like RESO, Soothe2 or Smooth Operator don't do this at all, the reduction on these plugins is very smooth and they sound like an actual EQ. Because of this I will ask for a refund and get RESO instead. I got sucked in by the huge marketing deployed around this plugin but it doesn't suit my needs. Definitely worth $15 but no more. It is not a good quality plugin.
This is correct! I've tried several of his plugins and they were all terrible! I got into an argument with him online about the fact that he doesn't offer demos. He said, "just try it, you will love it, best on the market"! I tried 3 and 2 were so buggy I almost couldn't even use them and the other one was just horrible sounding. This guy prays on newbies. Another Unison Audio if you ask me!
@@matt_nyc_audioengineeri am also getting that vibe. I bought Smoother and the pitch shifter one and they are ok… but really just worth $15 and not a penny more. I bought DSEQ 3 a few years ago and i prefer it because it is very transparent
Thank you for making this video. I bought The Smoother when I saw an ad for it on Facebook because Smooth 2 isn’t in the budget right now, and Im a new producer/mixer so I was intimidated to start messing with it😂 It does look easy to use at least, sort of. Going to give it a crack
exaclty the same price as FireSpacer from United Plugins, that can do (also) spectral... (MSpectralDynamics is of course the bomb, but more expensive...)
MeldaSD list price = 200euros. Often on sale for 50%. That's 100. If you are a first time buyer you could subscribe to their newsletter and get 10 euros off plus using a 20% referral code and have it for 70 euros. It's not cheap but it's the only plugin I would take with me in a dessert island in a usb stick lying together by the fire every cold lonely night..
Yeah you have to use that install manager. Fun fact: I at first had issues downloading the plugin via the installer and there's a ''download not working'' link below on it where you can directly download the plugin ( you cannot see the link unfortunately) . So the installer by itself is not even needed for the plugin to install.
One thing not mentioned is that the Smoother creates aliasing (or other artifacts). If you run a series of test tones and then apply smoother with a frequency specrum graph after it, you can see it's creating all sorts of distortions. In the video from the company, he has a single resonance along with some white noise and it appears to to work. It does as far as reducing the resonance, but hiding in that white noise is a whole bunch of aliasing and/or harmonic distortion being created by the plugin. It does not matter if you have oversampling engaged or use it as higher sample rates in your DAW. You can run this test yourself easily enough in your DAW and you can see it. None of the other resonance suppressors I have do this (Soothe2, Hornet Sleek, Curves Equator). Smoother is really quick and easy to use, and it works really well at reducing resonances, so it's kind of a shame that it produces these artifacts.
Interesting question. Maybe try mutiband mid/side processing? If the 2 voices contain elements that sit in deferent areas of the spectrum you might be able to accentuate those elements a little and then make it sound as if one is panned a bit right and the other left.
I got this and FireSpacer a few weeks ago. Firespacer seems to work pretty easily. I tried swapping out Trackspacer on a mix I'm finishing. It didn't make enough of a difference for me to mess with my mix at this point, but I could see using Firespacer soon. So I also saw the heavy marketing from Phil Spicer in insta. Since Soothe is out of my $$$ range I wanted to give this a try. I figured for $15 if it sucks I don't feel so bad. It doesn't suck imho, but you're correct, you MUST be careful with the amount used. It's too easy to wreck you sound. Too be fair, Soothe can also wreck audio if overused. I'll continue working with Smoother to find the right spots for it. Thanks for the solid demo 😉👍
My thoughts are that The Smoother is superior to Soothe2 for dialogue. The Smoother does remove/reduce resonant frequencies while remaining transparent. Soothe2 changes the tone substantially, even when using moderate settings and struggles to remove resonant frequencies. With Soothe2 I end up cranking up too much when trying to remove the resonant frequencies which results in the life being sucked out of the audio. RESO and Deres are excellent for the same reasons as I gave for The Smoother, although they are not adaptive.
@@arirahimzadeh I do wish. I wish Smoother was better than soothe. Its not even comparable tho. Its crazy hi CPU compared to Soothe, and its missing some core features, as well as audio quality.
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This is my new favorite plugin for sure
Just remember, if you already own Ozone 10/11, you already have this in the form of the Ozone Stabilizer module.
There are quite a few variations of this available yes.
@@audiotoolshed Yup, another one I got for "free" as part of Izotope's Music Production Suite bundle is Brainworx bx_refinement.
Thanks for the tip. I was thinking about buying this one figuring I don't have a resonance reducer yet. Lol. Didn't know Ozone had one, i only use it for mastering. I use Neutron a lot when mixing, but the sculptor module isn't quite the same.
@@EricJohnson-fh8zj Glad I could help! I also highly recommend the Ozone Clarity and Spectral Shaper modules if you want more control over attack and release. You can even choose if you wanna target brown, pink or white noise with the tilt slider.
Stabilizer is only in 10 advanced or 11 standard. I only have 10 standard 😢
I was hoping you'd demo this one - Now I'll buy it - It looks useful, in moderation - Thanks!
You’re welcome!
I have learned from hard (that is my messy) results not to depend on swiss-army knife like plugins. Yes, it looks great - but i tend to go down a sonic rabbit hole. Still, it sounds like a lot of value for money. I'd recommend it to any musician who wants to DIY
Thanks to your video I just grabbed this plugin.
Unfortunately, compared to other resonance suppressors this one actually destroys the audio, even with minimal reduction. It works very aggressively, like it's processing very tiny bits of audio separately (similar to basic pitch shifters where we can set - and hear - the "grain"). This may not be audible at low settings because it's lost in the mix but it does what we hear when clicking the global solo (reacting way too fast to the incoming audio), and it starts sounding like a fuzz pedal at higher sensitivity settings. Other plugins like RESO, Soothe2 or Smooth Operator don't do this at all, the reduction on these plugins is very smooth and they sound like an actual EQ.
Because of this I will ask for a refund and get RESO instead. I got sucked in by the huge marketing deployed around this plugin but it doesn't suit my needs.
Definitely worth $15 but no more. It is not a good quality plugin.
This is correct! I've tried several of his plugins and they were all terrible! I got into an argument with him online about the fact that he doesn't offer demos. He said, "just try it, you will love it, best on the market"! I tried 3 and 2 were so buggy I almost couldn't even use them and the other one was just horrible sounding. This guy prays on newbies. Another Unison Audio if you ask me!
@@matt_nyc_audioengineeri am also getting that vibe. I bought Smoother and the pitch shifter one and they are ok… but really just worth $15 and not a penny more.
I bought DSEQ 3 a few years ago and i prefer it because it is very transparent
Huge honourable mention must go to DSEQ3... I find it better than Soothe 2. It's definitely worth a try
Shit. That sucks. I got sucked into the marketing too and thought it was a steal! Guess not😢😂
@@carriesolomonmusic you can get a refund within 30 days ;)
I think the display is the coolest of all of these kinds of resonance-suppression plugins.
Hahaha
@@audiotoolshed why is this funny
Yeah the GUI is nice on this one
@@clingmarbleprod Wondering the same
Thanks for another great review!
I mean, you didn't say it but I imagine the answer to "Better than Soothe 2?" is.... "Definitely Not!" ??
4:24 sir psycho sexy is feeling good about this resonance supression ? 🤔
Thank you for making this video. I bought The Smoother when I saw an ad for it on Facebook because Smooth 2 isn’t in the budget right now, and Im a new producer/mixer so I was intimidated to start messing with it😂 It does look easy to use at least, sort of. Going to give it a crack
Like the flow to the interface over soothe, could see it saving me some time 😮
exaclty the same price as FireSpacer from United Plugins, that can do (also) spectral... (MSpectralDynamics is of course the bomb, but more expensive...)
MeldaSD list price = 200euros. Often on sale for 50%. That's 100. If you are a first time buyer you could subscribe to their newsletter and get 10 euros off plus using a 20% referral code and have it for 70 euros. It's not cheap but it's the only plugin I would take with me in a dessert island in a usb stick lying together by the fire every cold lonely night..
I didn't realize Till afterI bought it that you have to Use his install manager thing which I don't love that. Have not used the VST yet LOL
Yeah you have to use that install manager. Fun fact: I at first had issues downloading the plugin via the installer and there's a ''download not working'' link below on it where you can directly download the plugin ( you cannot see the link unfortunately) . So the installer by itself is not even needed for the plugin to install.
Thanks, decent overview but SOOTHE2 is in the tittle yet it's not compared in any way...
Fuser is more like Trackspacer - I think you meant Reso when referring to Mastering The Mix.
Fuser unmasks, this one too and soothe2 can do it as well. But I could have used a better choice of words yeah.
One thing not mentioned is that the Smoother creates aliasing (or other artifacts). If you run a series of test tones and then apply smoother with a frequency specrum graph after it, you can see it's creating all sorts of distortions. In the video from the company, he has a single resonance along with some white noise and it appears to to work. It does as far as reducing the resonance, but hiding in that white noise is a whole bunch of aliasing and/or harmonic distortion being created by the plugin. It does not matter if you have oversampling engaged or use it as higher sample rates in your DAW. You can run this test yourself easily enough in your DAW and you can see it. None of the other resonance suppressors I have do this (Soothe2, Hornet Sleek, Curves Equator). Smoother is really quick and easy to use, and it works really well at reducing resonances, so it's kind of a shame that it produces these artifacts.
thx
Is it comparable to hornet's sleek? And which of them is better?
I tried Sleek when it came out and I found it to be highly disappointing.
Not to mention it consumes quite CPU for one plugin instance, almost like izotope's Unmask (although this uses more).
Help me😢😢
How to distinguish just one person vocal from two people's conversations? Its a phone call between two people.
Interesting question. Maybe try mutiband mid/side processing? If the 2 voices contain elements that sit in deferent areas of the spectrum you might be able to accentuate those elements a little and then make it sound as if one is panned a bit right and the other left.
Steinberg's SpectraLayers : Unmix Multiple Voices module
sick sir psycho sexy alt version!!!
10 points for recognizing!
Is this better than Deres? It's similar right?
Not actually. Deres is something a bit different. It pinpoints and exact resonant frequency and you operate around it. It is a different type of job.
@Keroser1983 yep, same area of interest but totally different approach 👍
Phil might get a bit spicy about your title. 😉
As long as he does it smooth
@@audiotoolshedlol
Phil Speiser
@@audiotoolshed 🤣🤣🤣
you said "like soothe2, *fuser* and smooth operator", I think you meant *RESO* :D
Not quite! Fuser is an unmasking tool, just as this one and what for instance soothe can do in sidechain. Could’ve worded it better in hindsight
Can sooth 2 be used as an alternative to trackspacer?
yes
Yes, if you side-chain it right
it's even better because it has more bands and sounds more natural
I got this and FireSpacer a few weeks ago. Firespacer seems to work pretty easily. I tried swapping out Trackspacer on a mix I'm finishing. It didn't make enough of a difference for me to mess with my mix at this point, but I could see using Firespacer soon.
So I also saw the heavy marketing from Phil Spicer in insta. Since Soothe is out of my $$$ range I wanted to give this a try. I figured for $15 if it sucks I don't feel so bad. It doesn't suck imho, but you're correct, you MUST be careful with the amount used. It's too easy to wreck you sound. Too be fair, Soothe can also wreck audio if overused. I'll continue working with Smoother to find the right spots for it. Thanks for the solid demo 😉👍
What's the website to buy ?
Soothe 2 is alright but had latency that they wont address. This plugin isnt good. Id say look at Reso tbh
how does this compared to SOOTHE2 >????? Thx
Soothe 2 is better on all fronts , at 13x the current cost of The Smoother
My thoughts are that The Smoother is superior to Soothe2 for dialogue. The Smoother does remove/reduce resonant frequencies while remaining transparent. Soothe2 changes the tone substantially, even when using moderate settings and struggles to remove resonant frequencies. With Soothe2 I end up cranking up too much when trying to remove the resonant frequencies which results in the life being sucked out of the audio. RESO and Deres are excellent for the same reasons as I gave for The Smoother, although they are not adaptive.
Smooth operator vibes ....
I tested some of his plguins. I thought they were TERRIBLE! Like really really bad. I'll pass.
Somewhere on the site, Phil says there is no demo, but you can get your money back if you don't like it. I think it's 30 days.
Yeah that's a selling technique. A lot less users are inclined to ask money back of they dont like it.
So this is literally just a multi band compressor lol
Not quite, resonance suppressors work differently. Mostly far more detailed and focussed on individual frequencies.
Cubase kinda sucks for me.
Cubase the worst i have used! to many clicks for everything. Went to Reaper. Much much better now but you will need good 3rd party plugins😊
Phil Spicer is a NO NO for me, Always, also WA Production
the answer is no.
you wish ; )
@@arirahimzadeh I do wish. I wish Smoother was better than soothe. Its not even comparable tho. Its crazy hi CPU compared to Soothe, and its missing some core features, as well as audio quality.
@@shinyisshiny7780 ok good to know thanks
Phil is the worst. No one needs that garbage. REAL record makers are busy making records not videos
he is not in the making records industry atm... he is in the VST making $ industry.