EBMM Rules of Engagement: 1 - Receive feedback of desire for variants of existing model platforms 2 - Release a few dozen of said variant for a few months' salary 3 - Conclude that the market doesn't exist for such variants 4 - Never build a production level EBMM or a Sterling variant 5 - Repeat from 1
@@TaxEvader420 haha not quite but there’s a good point to be had here. Like, what do you get with this guitar that you don’t get with a Schecter or LTD baritone? I mean the answer is half the guitar. You could literally buy a Schecter and LTD, both with cases for the price of this thing. And seriously, what’s the difference in quality? What a flame maple neck? Really is that what you’re offering for $3k+?!?! Hell my uncle has a Firefly he paid $250 for that has a STUNNING flamed roasted maple neck. Not just the neck. It’s a whole ass guitar for $250. But we gotta charge a down payment for music man guitars?! wtf?! These people are out of touch and out of their minds!!!
@@smeemusic Yeah exactly, if I wanted to burn 3200 I'd much rather get 2 good Ibanez/LTD/Charvel/etc that are most likely just as good. Or have Kiesel build a custom guitar even
@@TaxEvader420 yeah okay. Thats an example of spending $3k on a guitar that I could at least wrap my head around. Getting a guitar custom spec’d out for yourself down to the wood. Yeah I can see someone spending that and it being “worth it” I mean that’s kinda like having a Rolex or something. Just that one nice thing a person might want to own thats specifically for them. Yeah I can march the beat of that drum. But to casually spend that much on a music man that you don’t even get to choose any of the parts or wood for. Like what are you even spending that much money for?! There’s literally nothing special here to offer. Hell the finish is even super vanilla. It just looks super uninspired. They didn’t seem to even try to innovate. Hell they dumbed this one down. No coil splits or taps. No multiple voices. No evertune. No exotic pretty woods. Just a standard baritone guitar with a decent neck. I mean if music man has something special to offer that warrants such a heavy price tag, they are doing a poor job getting that across in marketing. Seriously this is a meh okay baritone at best. They probably should start paying more attention to the competition.
Oh yay they did it. Another guitar I’ll never be able to afford. This channel is starting to become the place I go to be reminded how pathetically poor I am and see all the really cool stuff I’ll never get an opportunity to even touch.
@@lockedowng well at least you’re shopping smart. I’m a fan of buying used myself. 99% of my gear was used when I got it. I think I have 2 guitars and 2 sets of studio monitors and monitor stands that were new when I purchased them. Oh and cables most of my cables were new also. I did used to work at a club as a foh engineer and people in bands would just throw cables away when they would break on stage. At the end of the night I’d grab that cable out the garbage and bring it home and resolder it. Boom new cable!!! Those little fuckers can get expensive. Hell yeah I’ll take a freebie!!!! But everything else I got, several amps, several cabs, collection of pedals, several guitars and basses. All of it was used.
I mean, you can make different choices in life if you want something different for yourself. Whining about your lack of doing so doesn't do anything for you.
One of the best times I've heard in your vids. Music Man nailed it and the SLO patch was perfect. Kinda sad the axis baritone won't get seen as much. Love that thing. Always was curious what it would sound like with Duncan Black Winters in there. But yeah don't change a thing on the Stingray Baritone
That thing sounds really narly but I still don’t think those stock pickups are gonna last another second. Now I just get to stare at my watch and wait for a sterling that I can buy before it disappears.
That is the bridge they should have used with the release of the ~2016 StingRay line onwards (excluding the later stoptail models). String Thru / Hardtail. Done.
Dude. Ox Blood? Block inlay? Just... Giggity Goo. Chef's kiss. My last Baritone was an offset 30" scale Firefly. Actually a sick freakin axe for the sub $200 price point IMO, but clearly more akin to a Fender Bass VI, but with humbuckers. I regret selling it honestly. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ 27-27.5" seems to be the happy manufacturer sweet spot of modern baritones these days, and the specs of this Sting Ray Barry are just... Luxurious. Ow! My poverty hurts! Bwahahaha! Great FN demo as always Ryan! 🖖
No, Aucoumea klaineana is not closely related to Swietenia Mahagoni in any way shape or form. They do not even belong to the same family of trees (Swietenia is in Meliaceae, Aucoumea in Burseraceae). Nor are the physical characteristics of the two woods similar at all. If you squint slightly, they look somewhat alike, and thus the marketing department goes ‘yeehah’. Claiming mahogany is, at this point, the oldest trick in the wood trade.
When and where will these be released, are these going to sell in the EBMM vault? Sounds great, very chunky. Not a fan of the body shape, wish they would do it in the Kaizen body or something new. Love EBMM, another gem!
2:38 in the year of our lord 2024 we still believe wood affects tone in a high gain recording studio environment? I thought we learned better by now. Most of us did, anyway.
Didn’t you make a video about how baritone guitars don’t sell? Or something like that? I remember seeing a video where you were just dumping on them. Lol
Sounds awesome. But…. $3200 awesome? I’d probably just get a badass luthier to make a baritone and save some $$$ on something probably equal or better. This is why I don’t shop Ernie Ball guitars.
Music Man is hilariously bad with their presence in Europe. It's freaking impossible to get any Stingray, aside from Sterling versions. And only 50 of those are being made, jeez...
@@RiffsAndBeards Yeah, but in Europe it's nearly impossible to find even regular Stingrays. Sometimes you can find a hardtail on Reverb, but HS versions are very rare. Music man should really step up their dealership network.
This is gotta be one of the worst I’ve seen. I’ll stick with my $700 Ibanez baritone. I’ll get more use out of it and with the money I saved I’ll buy 2 other cool guitars I want for the price of one of these. I really really really hate this company now. These guitars are worth maybe $1,000 max. What a bunch of scumbags.
@@naruto199797 I actually have a JM-2, the Josh Middleton signature. One of my favorite guitars for sure. I recommend it to anyone who’s willing to spend the $ on one. I think I payed about $1,400 for it new.
That is a ridiculously cheap looking guitar for 3k. Ernie ball is shit. Do they even make string gauges to go on that thing? Cant find them on there website! Seems like a conflict of interest imo. Seriously fuck that company that thing looks like a fucking squire.
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Dude, PLEASE convince them to make it a production model, I fucking love that
please. PLEAASEEE let there be a sterling version after that 😅
EBMM Rules of Engagement:
1 - Receive feedback of desire for variants of existing model platforms
2 - Release a few dozen of said variant for a few months' salary
3 - Conclude that the market doesn't exist for such variants
4 - Never build a production level EBMM or a Sterling variant
5 - Repeat from 1
Don't forget also never build a single lefthand guitar ever
@@mmaviator22 "What are you talking about there's no left handed guitarists" - EBMM probably
@fluffytoaster427 except for the 1 random executive at EBMM who's kid plays bass so they make 1 or 2 of those and that's it 🤷♂️
@@mmaviator22 The Music Man Mariposa is left handed available.
It's cool, shame every music man costs one million dollars
@@TaxEvader420 haha not quite but there’s a good point to be had here. Like, what do you get with this guitar that you don’t get with a Schecter or LTD baritone? I mean the answer is half the guitar. You could literally buy a Schecter and LTD, both with cases for the price of this thing. And seriously, what’s the difference in quality? What a flame maple neck? Really is that what you’re offering for $3k+?!?! Hell my uncle has a Firefly he paid $250 for that has a STUNNING flamed roasted maple neck. Not just the neck. It’s a whole ass guitar for $250. But we gotta charge a down payment for music man guitars?! wtf?! These people are out of touch and out of their minds!!!
@@smeemusic Yeah exactly, if I wanted to burn 3200 I'd much rather get 2 good Ibanez/LTD/Charvel/etc that are most likely just as good. Or have Kiesel build a custom guitar even
@@TaxEvader420 yeah okay. Thats an example of spending $3k on a guitar that I could at least wrap my head around. Getting a guitar custom spec’d out for yourself down to the wood. Yeah I can see someone spending that and it being “worth it” I mean that’s kinda like having a Rolex or something. Just that one nice thing a person might want to own thats specifically for them. Yeah I can march the beat of that drum. But to casually spend that much on a music man that you don’t even get to choose any of the parts or wood for. Like what are you even spending that much money for?! There’s literally nothing special here to offer. Hell the finish is even super vanilla. It just looks super uninspired. They didn’t seem to even try to innovate. Hell they dumbed this one down. No coil splits or taps. No multiple voices. No evertune. No exotic pretty woods. Just a standard baritone guitar with a decent neck.
I mean if music man has something special to offer that warrants such a heavy price tag, they are doing a poor job getting that across in marketing. Seriously this is a meh okay baritone at best. They probably should start paying more attention to the competition.
“This is a simple baritone”
Price = not simple
Small price to pay man they are the best guitars in the world.
Oh yay they did it. Another guitar I’ll never be able to afford.
This channel is starting to become the place I go to be reminded how pathetically poor I am and see all the really cool stuff I’ll never get an opportunity to even touch.
Look for what you want, set alerts, and wait. I've had four EBMM guitars, and none cost over 1400.
@@lockedowng well at least you’re shopping smart. I’m a fan of buying used myself. 99% of my gear was used when I got it. I think I have 2 guitars and 2 sets of studio monitors and monitor stands that were new when I purchased them. Oh and cables most of my cables were new also. I did used to work at a club as a foh engineer and people in bands would just throw cables away when they would break on stage. At the end of the night I’d grab that cable out the garbage and bring it home and resolder it. Boom new cable!!! Those little fuckers can get expensive. Hell yeah I’ll take a freebie!!!! But everything else I got, several amps, several cabs, collection of pedals, several guitars and basses. All of it was used.
I mean, you can make different choices in life if you want something different for yourself. Whining about your lack of doing so doesn't do anything for you.
If music man or sterling made this guitar more accessible/affordable it would sell like crazy.
yes
Absolutely, they need to keep the 24 fret neck on it as well!
I’ve had about 40 guitars and never owned or put hand on a music man. Need to try one ❤
I’m a multiscale 7 string guy…BUT I do like a 6 string baritone for the super low tunings, but I prefer a 28 - 30 inch scale if I’m going that route.
Crazy! Never knew a duckbilled platypus could chug like that! sickter dud. 🤙🏼
One of the best times I've heard in your vids. Music Man nailed it and the SLO patch was perfect. Kinda sad the axis baritone won't get seen as much. Love that thing. Always was curious what it would sound like with Duncan Black Winters in there. But yeah don't change a thing on the Stingray Baritone
That thing sounds really narly but I still don’t think those stock pickups are gonna last another second.
Now I just get to stare at my watch and wait for a sterling that I can buy before it disappears.
Color is perfect.
Oh boy, the clean tones sold me. Interesting.
It's a wonderful baritone! It sounds great!
Thanks for sharing.
Beautiful guitar but sadly not for $3200. I think I got my Stingray RS for $2500 and that’s about the cap for me.
That thing looks super dank.
I like! Even the color is sweet.
I bought one, so effing siiiick
* PAINTED headstock
* 27.5 inch scale
* Hardtail
I am in love!
5:47 - 6:07 I like that progression
That is the bridge they should have used with the release of the ~2016 StingRay line onwards (excluding the later stoptail models). String Thru / Hardtail. Done.
this guitar is sick, love the look, love the specs, but lemme know if/when they make a Sterling version cuz $3200 just ain't happening anytime soon.
Dude. Ox Blood? Block inlay? Just...
Giggity Goo. Chef's kiss.
My last Baritone was an offset 30" scale Firefly.
Actually a sick freakin axe for the sub $200 price point IMO, but clearly more akin to a Fender Bass VI, but with humbuckers.
I regret selling it honestly.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
27-27.5" seems to be the happy manufacturer sweet spot of modern baritones these days, and the specs of this Sting Ray Barry are just...
Luxurious.
Ow! My poverty hurts!
Bwahahaha!
Great FN demo as always Ryan!
🖖
Dang that's awesome! Hope they release a Sterling version in the sub $1K range.
looks super cool, and sounds ridiculously mean.
That color..... with the black pickguard....... and block inlays..... yeah that doesn't give 60s sg vibes at all..... I love it
That's a pretty guitar.
Sick.
Does it still have a baby nut? Idk why they can’t make 1-11/16” standard, like a toothpick with strings
Never understand why necks from Musicman are so tiny
Rabea used to have a baritone signature. I have a feeling this run is to dial in the baritone specs.
Sterling Plese
what song in the first mix?
It would be nice to hear it with a pair of your signature Fluence to get a bit more presence to the sound
What page are you 🔛, no more Fiesta and Christopher Cross cassette?! I don't know. Namastè.
They really need to make a Sterling baritone that is closer to this or the matte black model you have
If they were to make a Sterling version, that thing would fly off the shelves
need a sterling version plz!
Stupid pricing… Just make a Sterling version and you’ll sell a TON!
No, Aucoumea klaineana is not closely related to Swietenia Mahagoni in any way shape or form. They do not even belong to the same family of trees (Swietenia is in Meliaceae, Aucoumea in Burseraceae). Nor are the physical characteristics of the two woods similar at all.
If you squint slightly, they look somewhat alike, and thus the marketing department goes ‘yeehah’. Claiming mahogany is, at this point, the oldest trick in the wood trade.
Time to learn some Thrice riffs Ryan.
Dude I know lolol
Man I need some help using my fractal fm3 turbo. Any suggestions where?
Spend lots of time in the cab block playing with cabs
No coil tapping on a $3k Baritone is CRIMINAL.
@@Game4Lord why? Plz explain
When and where will these be released, are these going to sell in the EBMM vault? Sounds great, very chunky. Not a fan of the body shape, wish they would do it in the Kaizen body or something new. Love EBMM, another gem!
They are up for order now. They went up with the video for pre order on the site.
@@zanzabar4ky7 thx man! I only looked at the vault, didn’t see the homepage, there it is 🍻
Sterling version please
i love those sting ray... but no lefty :(
2:38 in the year of our lord 2024 we still believe wood affects tone in a high gain recording studio environment? I thought we learned better by now. Most of us did, anyway.
Nothing matters only speakers unless they were made in 2008.
27.5" scale STINGRAY baritone with 24 frets; Sign me the eff up!
Didn’t you make a video about how baritone guitars don’t sell? Or something like that? I remember seeing a video where you were just dumping on them. Lol
Still not a long enough scale length. 28 is the minimum.
does bfr stand for, "bruce fluff ryan"?
In fact it does
“Per se”
Too bad it's only limited to 50 worldwide
Meh, don’t like pickguards. Not a huge fan of rosewood as well.
@@ondzin funny, neither do I. My biggest issue w playing old strats is that damn triple layer pickguard, it’s constant contact with my pick 😀
Sounds awesome. But…. $3200 awesome? I’d probably just get a badass luthier to make a baritone and save some $$$ on something probably equal or better. This is why I don’t shop Ernie Ball guitars.
Cool guitar but $3200 is stupid.
If there’s no sterling model, F this company
The fact they made it BFR is beyond lame. It's both limited and way out of reach for your average player.
Music Man is hilariously bad with their presence in Europe. It's freaking impossible to get any Stingray, aside from Sterling versions. And only 50 of those are being made, jeez...
I mean all of the BFR releases are limited….
@@RiffsAndBeards Yeah, but in Europe it's nearly impossible to find even regular Stingrays. Sometimes you can find a hardtail on Reverb, but HS versions are very rare. Music man should really step up their dealership network.
This is gotta be one of the worst I’ve seen. I’ll stick with my $700 Ibanez baritone. I’ll get more use out of it and with the money I saved I’ll buy 2 other cool guitars I want for the price of one of these. I really really really hate this company now. These guitars are worth maybe $1,000 max. What a bunch of scumbags.
Better yet, you could get an esp ltd with similar features, even stainless steel frets, for around a grand
@@naruto199797 I actually have a JM-2, the Josh Middleton signature. One of my favorite guitars for sure. I recommend it to anyone who’s willing to spend the $ on one. I think I payed about $1,400 for it new.
Well those guitars are made with cheaper woods, parts, and made overseas… of course this is going to cost more
@@thomasstankiewicz9730 yes, Matt please explain why your reaction to this guitar is so negative
That is a ridiculously cheap looking guitar for 3k. Ernie ball is shit. Do they even make string gauges to go on that thing? Cant find them on there website! Seems like a conflict of interest imo. Seriously fuck that company that thing looks like a fucking squire.
It should take normal 10-52 or 11-52. You don't need special strings for a baritone unless you have a 30" scale with 6 in line.
@@zanzabar4ky7 yes. And EBMM offers baritone strings. What’s this guy on???