Haitink On Brahms 3
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ก.ย. 2008
- Masterclass with conductor Bernard Haitink on the difficulties of directing Brahms's Symphony No.3, recorded at London's Royal College of Music. The full 218-minute class is available to buy here:
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Haitink seems like such a nice guy! What a great privilege it would be to play for him!
Bernard Haitink, a very gifted Dutch conductor of our time, his fierce precision of interpreting the score is always full of tension & drama. Here we see his tender side as a good teacher & a generous maestro who's willing to share his expertise with young students. What a joy in music-making. I love this video, thanks !
what a nice vid! Haitink is critical but also fatherly, and gives the right direction to these young and talented people. And he knows how to give a compliment...
They look so nervous, I imagine I'd be the same way standing in front of such a great musician.
ahh! Such a great Man! We're all blessed with you ! BERNARD HAITINK!
The Choir in which I sing recently auditioned for a new Musical Director. The final four all had PhD degrees in music or were months away from the award.
The youngest committed one of the most basic mistakes. She FOLLOWED us instead of LEADING us. This happens when budding conductors conduct to a recording, often in front of a mirror. Since a recording cannot respond to gestures you wind up following rather than leading.
If a conductor does nothing else he or she MUST lead.
The first young conductor we see in Haitinks masterclass is Michael Alexander Young.I have seen several of Youngs concerts with the Charities Philharmonia in London.His Shostakovitch 7 was one of the best I have ever seen.But dont take my word for it,look up Charities Philharmonia on You Tube. Obviously Haitinks tuition had its effect.
One of my favorite conductors, my favorite composer, and I agree with and love everything Bernard says! Be happier except needing and wanting more. What are supremely great message that he gave, that we're here to help each other and if anywhere that that can be seen to be effective it certainly is it in the great cooperative orchestra.
i love how he goes yambambabam
great man, love his Mahler and Bruckner..
The man's talent is eclipsed only by his beautiful humility. How refreshing.
I've seen Haitink conduct this very symphony with the Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra. I thought is was divine! Bravo Maestro!
Excellent Masterclass by not only a wonderful conductor, but also a very great teacher.
You should get the three hour DVD. It's truly inspiring - and not just for aspiring conductors. Any music lover would learn so much from this remarkable man. You can get the DVD from the website on the clip.
I have seen Michael Young the first conduct the Charities Philharmonia at St Johns Smith Sq several times. The Pastoral is on You Tube and is very good,however his Shostakovitch 7 I saw a couple of years ago was the best live performance I have ever seen of this symphony!
Lucky lucky students to have such a teacher.
What a wonderful man, what a great carriere he had
I liked that advice about hitting the forte at the beginning of the work.
bernard haitink is the uncle of my dad!!!
WHEW! Fast intro in the "free and happy" section
Wow! This is just amazing! I wonder how the participants feel conducting such a wonderful group. I wish I could have the opportunity to participate or at least play in such.
Great skills from Bernard.
"Dangers are everywhere" :-)
That is one of the cutest moments of my life "Actually it feels amazing." How many of us would like to stand up there in front of an orchestra and conduct our favourite piece? I would probably choose Sibelius's Tapiola. What do other people say?
Good Work!
Hatink has always been one of my absolute favorite conductors and now I can see the reasons why after hearing them for so many years.
I think I recognize some in the orch. Which one is it?
I'm off to buy the DVD right now.
Thanks so much!
Im going to wathc and practice, and hopefully become a drum major!
very nice!
"Well, how does it feel?" "Actually amazing" "For me, too."
The most awesome thing passes between them.
good video for aspiring conductors. =]]
Que pena que estos videos tan interesantes, NO estén subtitulados en ESPAÑOL...Es que con la tecnología que tenemos actualmente, no es posible...!!!??? No lo comprendo...CUANTO LO SIENTO, que una de las 3 ó 4 lenguas más habladas del mundo, brille por su ausencia en este tipo de vídeos...Sinceramente no lo comprendo...
This is true; a far cry from Celibidache, and much more effective!
what insight into conducting
not so much that they've learnt it, but it will have been rehearsed often. Most players are proficient enough to read ahead of where they are playing and keep 'checking' themselves with the conductor. It is a skill one learns when playing in a conducted ensemble.
@lullemans72 hmm It could be , that some of them have memorized the whole piece , but the case usually is that you'll have played it so much that certain parts won't need that much focus (with your eyes)
@maestromarble08 I think his name is John Lubbock, but I can't remember, might have him confused with someone else!
Shit....Its a chain of miracles.....
@ninjakid165 i see. thanks for sharing.
I've been conducted by that first guy.
@SteveAndrewLangford I think putting one's head down is different from closing your eyes. When you put your head down, all contact is lost. Closing your eyes as a conductor doesn't necessarily mean there is no contact with the orchestra. It is expressive. So, I can agree it is technically wrong to put your head down. If a conductor were to put his head down in some kind of an artistic move that wouldn't be right either. He is not the artist, the orchestra is. At least, that's what I think.
@ninjakid165 i see. does that mean they know their entire sheet by heart?
Haitink's birthday today he's 83!
@lullemans72 Peripheral Vision. Plus You're not going to be glued to the sheet music the whole time x)
"I'm sure you can and want to have more pianissimo sotto voce"
"Yes... but how?"
I only saw 1 guy who could make it being, Leo at 2:30.
i never understood the role of the conductor. if everyone is looking at their scores, how could they also look at the guy standing in front with his stick.
@sstuddert made me smile :) haha
questo corso e' una buffonata
Lots of beautiful women in this ork.
None of these kids ever made it bacause they are out of their depth. They should be conducting Mozart, Haydn, etc., but in !Brahms symphony*s lol that said it's so useful to see them crash and burn and Haitink who actually has the communication skils necessary demonstrate the posture and charisma.
@zoranrosendahl Beter opletten voortaan ;-) Maar je bent het toch hopelijk wel met me eens XD
@zoranrosendahl Ik ben zelf ook Nederlands hoor :p
@montenegrin2010 Ha no. You have to be very humble and willing to do anything to be a good conductor. You have to put your ego aside to conduct.
lol...i thought he said "actually it feels lazy" for some reason
haha the old men is dutch, his accent is so funny
Which is the easiest of the Brahms symphonies to perform because I want to hear a school orchestra perform the Brahms symphonies but I get told their too difficult.
MrGriser definitely not 1 and 3. 4 will also be tricky, so maybe 2 is an option. However I don't know that symphony to well
gut Englisch
Teaching conducting is merely impossible, unless you teach time-beating. It is just a question of mere charisma. Karajan said "5% is technique, 95% is psychology". look at the faces of those young chaps: are they really conscious of the overwhelming feelings of this music? Are they really taken away by it? THIS IS THE PROBLEM, Haitink or not.
Puccini e la sua Lucca www.puccinimusic.com Yes we were!
who could make it BIG lol
I think Bernard is wrong in saying he shouldn't put his head down, its an artistic move, not a technical one. Herbert is known for closing his eyes through several pieces he conducted.
Turn that racket off!
I don't like him so much as a conductor, but he seems to be a nice good-hearted person. Students are terrible.....