Timestamps for mobile: 0:00 Intro 0:50 Early Prototype (2001) 2:25 Later Prototype (2009) 5:41 Version 2.0 (2009) 18:56 Version 2.1 (2014) 34:42 Version 2.2 (2019) 48:00 Trivia 50:25 Outtakes
Man, looking at early Egg Rock makes me remember how many levels were horrible narrow corridor mazes, in whole or part, for a long while. I love how they’ve modernized that out!
I find it kind of funny how egg rock hasn’t overhauled since 2.0, in fact, it’s the only stage that hasn’t been overhauled at some point, it’s been the same stage for 15 years, all they’ve done is remove sections.
I find it *INCREDIBLE* how a game technically started back in 1998, is STILL being worked on to this day! the amount of effort the devs put in to this game is BEYOND commendable. and by the way, thanks for covering this stuff! you do an awesome job.
One time I played the early prototype version on a netgame with 4 people in Demo 2. And it was insane, an enemy screwed with an elevator, tons of people were getting game overs, people were getting messed up by others, and it wasn’t even completable because -a teleporter didn’t work apparently- there was no signpost. It was fun.
Fun fact: The reason Egg Rock Zone was and is so difficult is because SSNTails wanted revenge on Mystic for creating Sonic 2Z, a challenging and sometimes unfair rom hack designed for players who'd "had enough of typical sonic level design and wanted something genuinely challenging." (Via SSNTails' TH-cam Channel)
watching this video made me realize how many gimmicks are shoved into this level, and i find it funny how it got better as more and more sections were removed. really excited for the 2.3 remake (whenever that's gonna come out lol), i'd love to see a version of this level that focuses on a smaller pool of gimmicks to make this level more focused and fair
Ah, Egg Rock Zone. The only zone that hasn't had an major overhaul in over 10 years, and also the only zone whose changes weren't adding things but removing them to make it easier, and rightfully so. I remember playing online back in the early 2010's and this goddamn level was almost impossible to complete thanks to lag in the Blowing Fans section. This could have been avoided if we just took the left path at the beginning, but the right path was faster and way more fun to suffer lol. Good times. Also I thought the video would start immediately with the 2.0 version, I totally forgot there used to be a prototype one before that. EDIT: Just finished the video, it was really good and nostalgic like all your past videos covering the history of all the stages. However, something that isn't present here is the original version of Black Eggman in 2.0. It lacks the climbable wall that were behind the 4 main pillars, and instead 4 plataforms in the connecting corners were present. The main pillars also had different colors instead of being all red/pink with lava. Was it not worth mentioning since the fight itself wasn't different? Not that I'm complaining but I find it weird that it didn't at least get a simple mention.
I wasn't aware that the later prototype had been given a release! That's an interesting find for sure, seeing the 2.0 trailer ERZ1 in full. It's funny how similar the later prototype and the 2.2 version of ERZ1 are still actually, I'm pretty sure that ERZ1 may as well be the oldest level still in the game with that in mind, having just had tweaks and extensions added on over time rather than being completely remade like so much of the game.
I would argue that GFZ1 is older in that regard, since its level design has not been remade since ~2000, just tweaked and expanded. That said, ERZ1 is still way more similar to its 2009 builds than GFZ1 is to its 2000 builds. :P
I like "New Very-Last-Minute Black Eggman. That's a very amusing name. But yeah, having not remembered what was in the older versions of SRB2, Egg Rock's difficulty definitely threw me for a loop. Those gravity altering segments made me lose quite a few lives, if I recall!
"Entirely new melody" While I can't write this off as entirely untrue, I do have to point out that both acts, in their new songs, have leitmotifs to the old Egg Rock music.
This video feels a lot more polished than the others. Showing some very nice signs of improvement. This was also very interesting as I didn't think egg rock had a very interesting history.
Honestly, it's insane to me how well ERZ still fits in 2.2 despite being so much less modernized than the rest of the zones, it only makes me more excited to see what an actually polished ERZ will look like in 2.3. Always been a fan of the cyber-nightmare aesthetic of most final Sonic zones so I can only dream of what a 2.2 styled ERZ will look like
Honestly I like some of the ideas from 2.0’s version of eggrock act 2 like the gravity slide portion and the size shrink part. It would’ve made sense if they were added to somewhere like doomship if that ever gets the luxury of being developed.
Right off the bat in the later prototype there's seemingly infinite 1-ups, I wonder if that was there for testing purposes. Anyways, it's amazing to see how this level evolved... and made easier.
@unfloofy Oh yeah i played this when i was young, then a while later when it was all kinda fleshed out a degree, with arid canyon and red volcano not having act 2's yet or a boss, now i played the 2.2 version
Does anybody think that we might be getting Red Volcano Act 2, a complete remake of Egg Rock as well as Dark City and Grand Eggshio from the Beta for 2.3 and 2.4?
According to the devs, Red Volcano Act 2 and 3 are for sure what's coming next. Egg Rock remake is being worked on, but it's not coming before Red Volcano. Nothing was said on Dark City and Grand Eggship, but they're still planned to eventually be in the game.
I think ERZ needs a remake because the difficulty spike from RVZ to ERZ is immense However, i do think ERZ is the best level in the game so i am not sure
I'm currently mulling over what to do next. The finale of this series has already been decided on, but I want to do one or two videos before it. I might do something involving Mystic Realm or the secret stages. Maybe DCZ and GEZ, who knows.
@@DylanDude Maybe you should remaster the GFZ, THZ, and DSZ videos.. with the trivia and stuff from the Egg Rock video. And since DSZ is pretty tough, you should do some hilarious outtakes when you were recording DSZ!
Honestly it's kind of a shame that the Egg Rock Robotnik boss was scrapped for Egg Rock Zone, I think it would've been cool for before the final showdown in blackcore, much like the miniboss you fight in Sonic 3 & Knuckles before the Kyodai Egg Robo. It even plays around with mechanics of the level like Lava, lasers and Anti-gravity.
I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks this, but when Dark City eventually does come out, Black Eggman should be moved there so that there's a new final boss, despite the nostalgia factor. It just fits far better.
Actually I think you got the trivia wrong for the erz remake, the erz shown in the trailer was just a revamp much like 2.2 gfz. It ended up being scrapped in favor of the remake which wasn't completed in time for 2.2
I think you should've used music_remade for v2.1. Well, for every zone except THZ and this zone, considering they didn't have remade tracks in the mod. As for the "SRB2 Throughout History" series itself, it was fun going through each version of SRB2 in the past. Will you go back to this series when we get v2.3? I'm not sure GFZ, THZ, or ACZ would get changed that much for v2.3, but the current DSZ2 is for some reason a placeholder, and is planned to get remade. Same with the entirety of ERZ, which was obvious it was a placeholder that was planned to get remade. I also heard that RVZ is the main focus of v2.3 development, similar to how we had to wait until v2.2 for ACZ2 and 3. If the devs at Sonic Team Jr are reading this, I have a suggestion for an eventual new zone. As we all know, 9 zones.are planned, 7 of which are already in the game. But what about a 10th zone that fills an ice theme? That could be perfect for Frozen Hillside Zone by making it a regular level, sticking it in between CEZ and ACZ, and we already have Act 1 as a secret level, and an Act 2 exists from the July/August 2012 OLDC, why not add both of them in? Though a custom boss may have to be created, but it would be "cool" (Pun intended) regardless.
I mean all egg rock zone from 2001 to 2021 now is like from demo 2 in to a day off for demo 2 to later beta having a day off for later beta so it move on to 2.0 classic erz1 & 2 not bad but it have a day off but now 2.1 show up with erz1 & erz2 & now in 2021 egg rock zone act 1 & 2 use by thx in srb2 2.2 so yeah it ends here now I do not think about if sonic team Jr released 2.3.0 in 2022 but we all have to wait for it.
I'll admit, I didn't know about this! Thanks. But it wouldn't have been included either way, as these videos always use the last version of each major release unless there's something _especially_ significant to show off.
Timestamps for mobile:
0:00 Intro
0:50 Early Prototype (2001)
2:25 Later Prototype (2009)
5:41 Version 2.0 (2009)
18:56 Version 2.1 (2014)
34:42 Version 2.2 (2019)
48:00 Trivia
50:25 Outtakes
Can you send the link to download the later prototype?
Could you do a special stages throughout the years?
Man, looking at early Egg Rock makes me remember how many levels were horrible narrow corridor mazes, in whole or part, for a long while. I love how they’ve modernized that out!
I find it kind of funny how egg rock hasn’t overhauled since 2.0, in fact, it’s the only stage that hasn’t been overhauled at some point, it’s been the same stage for 15 years, all they’ve done is remove sections.
@@jackhumphries1087not even gfz got that lmao
I find it *INCREDIBLE* how a game technically started back in 1998, is STILL being worked on to this day! the amount of effort the devs put in to this game is BEYOND commendable.
and by the way, thanks for covering this stuff! you do an awesome job.
One time I played the early prototype version on a netgame with 4 people in Demo 2. And it was insane, an enemy screwed with an elevator, tons of people were getting game overs, people were getting messed up by others, and it wasn’t even completable because -a teleporter didn’t work apparently- there was no signpost. It was fun.
Video of you playing the early prototype version on a netgame with 4 people in Demo 2, please?
@@BrianFan7650
... how funny that I actually recorded that...
th-cam.com/video/8TWiRwUS2YE/w-d-xo.html
@@vertz1515 how do I download SRB2Fest?
@@BrianFan7650 SRB2Fest isn't a mod. It was the name of the event. I am putting together a full demo 2 level pack called "Demo 2 Complete"
Fun fact: The reason Egg Rock Zone was and is so difficult is because SSNTails wanted revenge on Mystic for creating Sonic 2Z, a challenging and sometimes unfair rom hack designed for players who'd "had enough of typical sonic level design and wanted something genuinely challenging."
(Via SSNTails' TH-cam Channel)
Deep lore
watching this video made me realize how many gimmicks are shoved into this level, and i find it funny how it got better as more and more sections were removed. really excited for the 2.3 remake (whenever that's gonna come out lol), i'd love to see a version of this level that focuses on a smaller pool of gimmicks to make this level more focused and fair
Egg rock full remake in 2.3
Ah, Egg Rock Zone. The only zone that hasn't had an major overhaul in over 10 years, and also the only zone whose changes weren't adding things but removing them to make it easier, and rightfully so.
I remember playing online back in the early 2010's and this goddamn level was almost impossible to complete thanks to lag in the Blowing Fans section. This could have been avoided if we just took the left path at the beginning, but the right path was faster and way more fun to suffer lol. Good times.
Also I thought the video would start immediately with the 2.0 version, I totally forgot there used to be a prototype one before that.
EDIT: Just finished the video, it was really good and nostalgic like all your past videos covering the history of all the stages. However, something that isn't present here is the original version of Black Eggman in 2.0. It lacks the climbable wall that were behind the 4 main pillars, and instead 4 plataforms in the connecting corners were present. The main pillars also had different colors instead of being all red/pink with lava.
Was it not worth mentioning since the fight itself wasn't different? Not that I'm complaining but I find it weird that it didn't at least get a simple mention.
Yeah eggrock was a goddamn nightmare to beat in multiplayer back in 2.0
This zone and cez were in a deep competition to see who could waste more of my 1ups and time lol
Arid Canyon got created for nothing?
both map is for death stamp or fall pit
For me, it was Egg Rock and Red Volcano
@@vertz1515 Arid Canyon ain't that bad.
Honestly, never found Egg Rock or Castle Eggman to be that bad.
Wow, nice, these get better each time.
I like that scrapped Egg Rock boss, btw. I always re-add it. Egg Rock only having 2 acts...bothered me.
Ah, thanks!
Honestly i like the fact ERZ only has 2 acts, it's the perfect buildup to the final bosses, having an extra boss in the middle is kind of anticlimatic
@@howisthis8849why not just make act 3 but have it just be both of the erz2 parts that were removed /j
Still find it funny that in some of the demos eggman just.... falls over
I wasn't aware that the later prototype had been given a release! That's an interesting find for sure, seeing the 2.0 trailer ERZ1 in full. It's funny how similar the later prototype and the 2.2 version of ERZ1 are still actually, I'm pretty sure that ERZ1 may as well be the oldest level still in the game with that in mind, having just had tweaks and extensions added on over time rather than being completely remade like so much of the game.
I would argue that GFZ1 is older in that regard, since its level design has not been remade since ~2000, just tweaked and expanded. That said, ERZ1 is still way more similar to its 2009 builds than GFZ1 is to its 2000 builds. :P
@@DylanDudeI think erz2 is the most like its older counterpart, since every part of the stage in 2.2 has been there since egg rock’s addition in 2.0
How the music evolved in this zone is amazing
I'm the guy you talked to about the thok in the discord today, and I've just gotta say your content is awesome!
Thank you so much!
I'm just glad they didn't keep the boring laser part from Flying Battery in the game.
Yeah I agree
I like "New Very-Last-Minute Black Eggman. That's a very amusing name.
But yeah, having not remembered what was in the older versions of SRB2, Egg Rock's difficulty definitely threw me for a loop. Those gravity altering segments made me lose quite a few lives, if I recall!
Man V2.2 was the biggest update (music,textures,levels layouts,sprites)
"Entirely new melody"
While I can't write this off as entirely untrue, I do have to point out that both acts, in their new songs, have leitmotifs to the old Egg Rock music.
As portions, but the main melodies are entirely new. Especially when compared to every other main zone in the SP campaign.
@@DylanDude I know. I was just pointing it out.
whoa! egg rock has changed a lot!!
(also, awesome video!)
Thank you!
ayo holy shit
These are VERY interesting, especially the 2009 prototypes
I would like to imagine how the final boss would have looked like if the one we got didn't stick...
Possibly the same, just some tweaks and new music to fit 2.2
Awww, i loved that Egg Rock Act 3 idea for v2.2... i hope it gets added in future releases
Same!
The nostalgia of the 2001 song tho ngl(the claps,drums and the music)
This video feels a lot more polished than the others. Showing some very nice signs of improvement. This was also very interesting as I didn't think egg rock had a very interesting history.
Honestly, it's insane to me how well ERZ still fits in 2.2 despite being so much less modernized than the rest of the zones, it only makes me more excited to see what an actually polished ERZ will look like in 2.3. Always been a fan of the cyber-nightmare aesthetic of most final Sonic zones so I can only dream of what a 2.2 styled ERZ will look like
God I love so much the old soundtrack for eggrock zone, brings me so much memories
I hope we get a look at the Bonus Levels of SRB2 theough out all the builds and see what changed
Excluding Castle Eggman Zone and Red Volcano Zone
I'm here for the music. Love to hear how that evolved!
Great one! Very interesting.
Thanks!
when egg rock used to be thok and roll torture 😳
(nice video tho :D)
A wild Weegs has appeared!111!!!!11
@@sebowo2205 sebo real?!?!?!?!? 😳😳😳
Ok that was a good joke ngl
"Awww, is Egg Rock Zone too hard for you ?"
Sonic Team Jr
Honestly I like some of the ideas from 2.0’s version of eggrock act 2 like the gravity slide portion and the size shrink part. It would’ve made sense if they were added to somewhere like doomship if that ever gets the luxury of being developed.
Version 2's music feels so nostalgic
Right off the bat in the later prototype there's seemingly infinite 1-ups, I wonder if that was there for testing purposes.
Anyways, it's amazing to see how this level evolved... and made easier.
Throughout history of Secret Levels, please?
Thats what i was thinking actually
Maybe a history of aerial garden?
2:25 the music for the moon landing
ah, 2.0 had the iconic flying battery act 2 miniboss.
so did 2.1 lmao
And to think i was playing this game when Castle Eggman was the "final level", jesus its been awhile
@unfloofy Oh yeah i played this when i was young, then a while later when it was all kinda fleshed out a degree, with arid canyon and red volcano not having act 2's yet or a boss, now i played the 2.2 version
Does anybody think that we might be getting Red Volcano Act 2, a complete remake of Egg Rock as well as Dark City and Grand Eggshio from the Beta for 2.3 and 2.4?
According to the devs, Red Volcano Act 2 and 3 are for sure what's coming next. Egg Rock remake is being worked on, but it's not coming before Red Volcano. Nothing was said on Dark City and Grand Eggship, but they're still planned to eventually be in the game.
@@Yze3 yeah, doomahip and dark city are supposed to be in there beta phace wheb added in 2.3
I think ERZ needs a remake because the difficulty spike from RVZ to ERZ is immense
However, i do think ERZ is the best level in the game so i am not sure
@@howisthis8849 well there's supposed to be two zones between RVZ and ERZ
Suggestion: Special Stages throughout history
(it surely would be a long video but ok it's just a suggestion after all lol)
I hope they use the cut boss for red volcano boss. It's quite a clever boss :)
cut boss for red volcano, early brak for dark city
@@dededesgustingtkemylife4825NO NO NO PLEASE DON'T, THAT THING WITH THE 2.1/2.2 PHYSICS IS PURE TORTURE
Good Job!
Thanks.
This zone sure was something
icy in 2001 😳😳😳
So what zone is there left to go through? The multiplayer levels? Or the emblem-exclusive levels?
I'm currently mulling over what to do next. The finale of this series has already been decided on, but I want to do one or two videos before it. I might do something involving Mystic Realm or the secret stages. Maybe DCZ and GEZ, who knows.
@@DylanDude Maybe you should remaster the GFZ, THZ, and DSZ videos.. with the trivia and stuff from the Egg Rock video. And since DSZ is pretty tough, you should do some hilarious outtakes when you were recording DSZ!
The 2.2 music for ERZ act 2 sounds so much like sonic adventure 1 and 2 music and I love it so much
Honestly it's kind of a shame that the Egg Rock Robotnik boss was scrapped for Egg Rock Zone, I think it would've been cool for before the final showdown in blackcore, much like the miniboss you fight in Sonic 3 & Knuckles before the Kyodai Egg Robo. It even plays around with mechanics of the level like Lava, lasers and Anti-gravity.
There needs to be an “Egg Rock Legacy” zone that’s just act 2 of the 2.0 version
50:44 what boss is that? i dont remember seeing that?
40:54
this was the first version i installed on my pc when i was a kid 5:43
I don't know if I'm the only one who thinks this, but when Dark City eventually does come out, Black Eggman should be moved there so that there's a new final boss, despite the nostalgia factor. It just fits far better.
until Dark City appears un 2.3 does not come out
5:27 I know about Dark City Zone, but what's the other zone that was yet to be added?
Grand Eggship Zone, to go between Dark City and Egg Rock.
Good god, i like the old and new music of ERZ.
That sync with the music 😌
35:34
Isn't it worth mentioning that before 2.2, SRB2 only saved at the beginning of Act 1 of any zone?
This happened in a patch after the release of 2.2. 2.2.0 only saved at each Act 1 _and_ CEZ2.
Who soundtrack of egg rock you like more? I like the old but i like more the current soundtrack
Can you speak English, please?
@@midi_feline what? Sorry, im brazilian, im tailking with what i know
Srb2 v2.0 final boss is probably the hardest version ever
an addendum: early 2.0 had a different looking arena for brak eggman
wht about the erz museum room?
Actually I think you got the trivia wrong for the erz remake, the erz shown in the trailer was just a revamp much like 2.2 gfz. It ended up being scrapped in favor of the remake which wasn't completed in time for 2.2
Wiki says otherwise, but perhaps.
I think you should've used music_remade for v2.1. Well, for every zone except THZ and this zone, considering they didn't have remade tracks in the mod.
As for the "SRB2 Throughout History" series itself, it was fun going through each version of SRB2 in the past.
Will you go back to this series when we get v2.3? I'm not sure GFZ, THZ, or ACZ would get changed that much for v2.3, but the current DSZ2 is for some reason a placeholder, and is planned to get remade. Same with the entirety of ERZ, which was obvious it was a placeholder that was planned to get remade. I also heard that RVZ is the main focus of v2.3 development, similar to how we had to wait until v2.2 for ACZ2 and 3.
If the devs at Sonic Team Jr are reading this, I have a suggestion for an eventual new zone. As we all know, 9 zones.are planned, 7 of which are already in the game. But what about a 10th zone that fills an ice theme? That could be perfect for Frozen Hillside Zone by making it a regular level, sticking it in between CEZ and ACZ, and we already have Act 1 as a secret level, and an Act 2 exists from the July/August 2012 OLDC, why not add both of them in? Though a custom boss may have to be created, but it would be "cool" (Pun intended) regardless.
where did you find that pre 2.0 later prototype? I really want to check it out
Download link of a Later Prototype ERZ1 wad?
i found here archive.org/download/srb20ya-dev
@@sonicc544 cool!
Epic
do you have the later prototype without all unused texture?
Soooo ... you're talking about Egg Rock without talking about the Disco Zone ?
After several hours of this I did not want to even try to record that room without dying and ruining another run.
Tails. My baby boi.
50:25 I just guess that i was playing a guitar. (this honors how GOOD this song is)
The fang boss wasted like, 20 lives
i still can't help but think that alarm sound during the eggman bosses sounds like will smith
are these available for download?
How do we get the later prototype
Why not do the srb2 title screen history
Because
I still miss the pre-2.2 theme
yo is the early prototype one the buzz bumble theme?
That is _really_ funny, but no.
I mean all egg rock zone from 2001 to 2021 now is like from demo 2 in to a day off for demo 2 to later beta having a day off for later beta so it move on to 2.0 classic erz1 & 2 not bad but it have a day off but now 2.1 show up with erz1 & erz2 & now in 2021 egg rock zone act 1 & 2 use by thx in srb2 2.2 so yeah it ends here now I do not think about if sonic team Jr released 2.3.0 in 2022 but we all have to wait for it.
5:41 what happened to the 1st ERZ3 map from 2.0.1 ? 👀
Like this footage th-cam.com/video/494Zzc71uDs/w-d-xo.html
I'll admit, I didn't know about this! Thanks. But it wouldn't have been included either way, as these videos always use the last version of each major release unless there's something _especially_ significant to show off.
@@DylanDude 😌 no problem man , 2.0.1 had also and interesting part of erz2 . Before the 1st star post was an badnick spam
remember when eggrock zone was called doom ship zone?
It was never called doom ship
That was Grand Eggship, not Egg Rock.
@@suroguner Hey Glaber, can you release SRB2 The Past for 2.2?
@@BrianFan7650 when it’s done
@@BrianFan7650 Can't, not finished yet. Also, That was fast.
Mystic Realm throughout history?
Nice new avatar pic, Dylan
Thanks, a friend drew one of my characters for me and I thought it would make for a good icon.
@@DylanDude Cool
Prototype 2009 will butn your eyes
Agz history ?
After school i wil try to beat black core :)
Can we all agree that we are all old? 😢
26:54 orange sus
God i hate that off beat guitar
Which one?
3:03 god bless 2.2