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Did the draw already happen? Who won? Cant seem to find the anouncement in any of your page. Same with the tekton lore giveaway. Thanks guys and more power!
KEF KC62 for me. Musicality and ability to disappear are most important for me. KEF has the lowest SPL output but I tend to run my subwoofer on the low setting anyway. Nice video guys. Great job!
The Kef really has my eye. In addition to multiple exceptional reviews, the size is just hard to beat. I could easily integrate dual KC62s into my smaller room without impacting the aesthetics or feel of the space in my smaller listening room. Not that any of these are large, but the KC62s are just so small, and the rounded matte finish boxes just seem more discrete. The white can just blend in to the walls and melt away.
I was confused about the points ratings for this review. I agree with other comments that some initial points should have a much smaller weighting applied. Initially the REL was down approx 5 points against both. Once the HT, musicality scores started getting judged it made ground quickly which to me is of higher importance
@@anneliesmith7556 I think people claim it has musicality because it's harder to integrate things to go deeper. Doesn't mean they are worse. With room calibration you'd more easily integrate things and they would all sound equally 'musical' but the better ones would go deeper than the REL. Bass slowness is primarily due to peaks that make it sound slow to us. Get rid of the peaks and all of the sudden it sounds fast. This is also why people have the mistaken belief that some speakers are too big for the room: there is no such thing. You simply need a way of taming the peaks that develop, you can still enjoy things that go down to 20hz in a small room.
I love the utility of the SVS app, and combined with the affordability, I’d have to spend the extra hundred and get duals! No brainer for me. Having dual PB3000’s has been a game changer in my home. Also, since it’s dual use (70% movies, 30% music), it would be the perfect option. One final point not mentioned regarding the SVS connectivity is the Soundpath wireless integration. It is very handy for certain setups when wires are difficult to run. Their latest tri-band system is fantastic. Great comparison points gentleman. I enjoyed this a lot.
I just ordered a full prime system, waited 37 days and returned, 100% of money returned and SVS paid the shipping! Outstanding! Now looking hard at the SVS ultra LCR and dual subs, but SVS has a huge edge with that customer service as a first time SVS customer.
For music listening, I'd go with the Kef. Absolutely. Having a greater extension and a more linear and faster bass response is really nice to get it to integrate naturally with other speakers.
REL subs are finished so nicely. I was amazed when I unboxed mine. Also, twice REL went above and beyond to make sure I hooked up correctly. The KEF is a beauty, but it is in a different price category than the REL.
Agreed, I love my 1st gen HT1205 and HT1508, I started with the SVS 2000 Pro but preferred the HT series. The T7x looks stunning though, I would love to put one with my Advance Paris A10 and Triangle Comete, especially since I managed to place my HT subs to where you can't even tell where they are coming from. I would love to test the Kef KC62 too, but at that price I would rather try out larger RSL or Rythmik subs.
5:50 It's always funny to me how audio reviewers love to give positive credit for the physical weight of gear. Maybe I'm weird, but my ears don't hear physical weight.
Great comparison, but I would choose the REL over the other two because of ease of integration and musicality. However, I don't think you could go wrong with any of the three. If price were the most important factor the SVS would be my choice. If I was using KEF LS50 meta's the KEF would be a natural.
I have 15 in. full range drivers in open Baffles powered by a Decware Zen triode SET Amp. I've been using two Klipsch Synergy Sub 10 Subwoofers for the past two years. I was only using the subs for heavy bass tracks for effect , because they didn't sound tight or clean with normal bass tracks.Yesterday i removed both of the Klipsch and replaced them with a REL T/7x . I was literally shocked at the difference it made. Beautiful full mid bass and tight , fast low bass. Anything i listen to sounds extremely better. I've been thinking of this purchase for a while, but watching this video a couple of days ago convinced me to take the leap. I am totally happy with the REL.
I love my SVS subwoofer. SVS has the best customer service. My SB 4000 subwoofer was having an issue after six years I contacted SVS hoping they would help me and they came through with flying colors they sent a new amp plate, and now my city is reporting mini earthquakes when my subwoofer is on. Again, thank you, SVS . Now that's customer service.
Sounds like the SVS is the clear winner once you factor price and the bluetooth app. Easier to set up. The fact that you can control the volume, switch between music and theater and night modes makes it a clear winner.
What about actual LF extension/output? You covered overall output (REL wins) , but without knowing the source material it's difficult to tell which goes the lowest/loudest. The winner at 50hz may not be the highest at 25hz.
I bought two REL T7/i's and they gave a 60 day price guarantee. About a month later, they had a sale. I emailed and indeed, they honored the price guarantee on both subs & immediately credited my card. Sweet!
Good job guys. I never would have even thought twice about a Kef sub so that's opened my eyes up. I've been told a few times that Rel's are considered a sub-system rather than a subwoofer. I think that is fairly close to the mark. Yes I do own a Rel happily.
Nice! However I would like to add something. I own a PB13 ultra subwoofer, in a 2.1 channel setup. Since I am using an integrated amplifier and not an AVR it was a huge chore for me to adjust subwoofer settings by moving this 100+ pound subwoofer and changing settings from the back. This year I replaced the subwoofer amp to one of the new ones with Bluetooth control, and I absolutely LOVE it. In your test you gave Bluetooth app integration 1 point but in my book that is a crucial feature and deserves much more mention than that (I know you talked about it further in the end but still it’s an amazing feature). It has improved my quality of life when I need to change settings on the fly, and something I look for now in subwoofers especially large ones. I just ordered a PB16 ultra for my home theater over the monolith 15 because of Bluetooth app integrated
I think I'd go with the KEF! How does the KEF compare though with something like the Kube 12b? Would you rather a single 12" driver or the dual 6.5" drivers of the KC62?
I would probably choose the Rel in white but don’t think there is a wrong answer. Surprised it had the most dynamics though. Specs don’t lead to that take away but can’t just trust specs to make your decision. Great video!
Gosh results of the shoot out really help me make up my mind the distinction between what was the best second best third is so clear so easy to discern and the reason for it so easy to understand you might as well take this video and throw it in the trash
I'd personally like the REL or the SVS as mostly i do double purpose. Music and movies both. Currently using Paradigm sub for last 8 years. Have been planning to upgrade for last 2 years.
The KEF has a built-in dynamic EQ, to make it output more bass at lower volumes. This feature cannot be turned off! This means that the KEF is incompatible with all room correction solution. The KC62 is intended only for HI FI to accompany the KEF LS50. You should buy it for an AV receiver! The SVS is the best option for an AV receiver, but you better got with a SB2000 Pro instead, better yet, two of them.
I'm an SVS guy. I've got an SB-2000 and PC-2000 still performing very well. I bought the 3000 Micro to pair with my LS50 Metas for my PC audio system. I love this little guy! The wireless app and $700 savings over the KC62 along with my great experience with SVS made the Micro the obvious choice for me.
@@Shaken_AND_Stirred I've not used the SB3000. I think it would likely overpower the Micro, though. I love my non-pro SB2000, too. The Micro really surprised me with its tight, punchy bass at such a small size. It does great with my music and games on my PC. Hope this helps.
I would go for SVS simply because of the convenience of setting things up via the app. Convenience goes a long way for me. However, I'm sure I would be thrilled to own any of these, with any one of these adding to my listening enjoyment.
From an audio consumer point of view, REL seems to have the best Brand Awareness among audio enthusiasts. The brand of REL is highly appreciated and has higher emotional connection with all segments of consumers. Going for REL is a complete no-brainer.
KEF has the wireless connection option for $200. And I could be wrong, you can control the KEF with the LS50 wireless ll app. It will send bass signal all to the sub and the main speakers work less hard. Since I ordered the LS50 wireless ll, the KC62 would be my clear choice. All the reviews seems positive.
Havent even used my Mini DSP or run Audyssey yet with the micro. Really? Boomy? You must be running it so hot in a bad location. Watch or read more reviews, you don't know how to dial in a sub. period.
@@martinaston1715 Sure my opinion. Find a legitimate review that calls this sub boomy and or one note! It may not have the output of my HSU 15" or SVS 12" ported cylinder but boomy and one note!? Give me break, reviewers would not be raving over a tiny $800 sub if that was the case, their reps at stake. Many dont know how to integrate, level match, or just dont like real bass in their music/movies! Have you listened to one?
@@martinaston1715 Of course in his opinion, but his opinion is backed by enough facts. No svs sub is boomy, not even their cheapest, let alone the micro. If it sounds boomy then room correction/DSP wasn't or correctly applied and/or speaker placement and/or room-treatment were horrible.
@@deeplyclosetedindividual Triggered? Do you even know what that means? Oh, yes, your F news channel and especially that guy from your pic are constantly triggered by reality and facts. hahhaha
All the subs are obviously great but i would choose the rel. i have had several rel subs and find they blend with music so smoothly. Plus the finish and look is top notch You guys do a great job with your scoring on this review Thanks
I bought the Totem Kin subwoofer with 150 watt amp built in. It goes down to 29 hertz and is tiny but it sounds pretty good paired to Canadian Noresco speakers from the 1960's which have German Isophon drivers. These speakers are over 50 years old, have nice veneer and still sound great driven by my Yamaha R700 receiver. Nothing has ever been done to these speakers which were bought new back in the day, they have cloth stitched on surrounds so they will never rot out like other speakers do. I doubt if any of these speakers you are testing will last as long as these Isophon drivers now known as GAUDER AKUSTIK.
@@ryanschipp8513 IF you are natural take it as a compliment. You do look good. Wish I had that many muscles. IF you are on the juice, just stop it. Stop it now.
@@MOAB-UT thanks for the compliment:-) I've always been active in sports and lifting weights. It's a passion of mine. I never got into drugs ever. I'm married and have two children and value my life and life with them.
@@fumpt Honestly, as long as the Front L & R are crossed over smoothly with the sub, an AVR with a sub is the better option. But I'm not a "go big or go home" audiophile.
Thank you guys for another objective and logical video. Sounds like its impossible to decide between the REL and the KEF without listening to them side by side. Thank you again!
I would buy a pair of the SVS 3000 Micro for my Home Theater (KEF Q10, Reference 90 Center, & 6 HTS-2001 Satellite; I LOVE KEF) in a Yamaha DSP 9.2 Set-Up. The Price/Performance Aspect is unparalleled given that you're not sacrificing Quality & the remote BASS App control from the listening position tips the Scales.
Really useful video, thank you. I've never owned an SVS or a REL. However, I'm very keen to upgrade my old B&W PV1 with one of these. My listening room is approx 25sq. metres. I was almost convinced that SVS will be a better sub but after watching your video I'm very keen now to go for a REL, instead. Thanks and, keep doing what you are doing!
You can snag a REL HT/1205 at Best Buy today for $449. You can, and should get the full 4 year warranty for $44 more. It's a great deal. I just bought one. You also have 15 days to try it.
I would choose the KC62. Smaller footprint for my smaller room, and sounds like it would be the best match to go with my bookshelfs which are very fast.
I used to have an older REL T3 and it was an impressive little sub. It was in my budget at the time but knew going in it was undersized for the room (open layout home) but even then it was fantastic. It was still loud enough to shake the kitchen cabinets and rattle the glasses. But it also sounded clean and simply blended in when listening to music. The extension was impressive and seemed more than specified by REL. Sadly though the amp died after 6 years of service. I’ll be buying the new T7X soon and can’t wait!
Excellent video. Really useful and interesting comparison. I have 2 Rel T9I subs which I use to augment my Kef Ref 5 floorstanders. I’ve been thinking of placing a 3rd sub at the rear of the room. I was leaning toward the Kef. Your video has pushed me more towards the Rel. Keep up the good work.
I am a two channel listener. Hard to say from this but I would go with either a single Kef KC62 or given space constraints and cost two Rel T/5x one per channel.
Power cables! 🔌 I’m running KEF LS50 Meta on T+A AMP8 amplifier. My sub is a REL T7i. So here’s an interesting fact... I borrowed and then bought a 3m $700 Transparent Audio power cable for the REL sub, and plugged it into my Transparent Powerwave conditioner with the rest of my components. The speed, accuracy and musicality of the REL went through the roof. It just disappeared. I was shocked with the difference. Food for thought 🇿🇦
Great review! It was very fair. I would pick the REL. Because of performance and appearance. My wife liked the REL as well. Happy Wife happy life. Keep up the great work guys.
Maybe I missed it, but I was hoping for some SPL numbers and some test setup info. For the life of me I can't find any REL real world measurements like those that are standard for Pro Audio subs.
As someone who had a Rel, when set up properly, they dissapear and before you know it, your speakers seem to have magically have more depth and extension.
I added two pb3000s to my theater and they continue to amaze over a year later. They can be subtle and elegant or deep and bone shaking very smoothly. Their app should have added 4 points or more to this comparison.
Great review!!! thank you guys! just bought the KEF ls 50 wireless 2, they are absolutely super! couldn't be happier. but yeah, the KEF kc 62 would be a great upgrade I think. greetings from Jakobstad Finland
The price to performance of the SVS along with the warranty for a multipurpose room makes too much sense. The question is what happens with the BT app when you have two SVS subs in the same room....fun video thanks for the shootout.
From what I know (only found one youtuber talking about this), you will need to go from one to another sub to change settings. You cannot change the settings from 2 subs at the same time for now. But maybe it could be implemented in the app if the bluetooth version allows to connect 2 subs.
Musicality should be *double points*... So, the KEF KC-62 for me. ;-) I have LS-50's, so also a good match. Traditionally, I've been a REL fan though. I'd sure like to hear them both in person. Thanks for your review!
Another awesome video! I thought that the KEF subwoofers would be the ones for me, but after watching this video, I am way more interested to learn more about the REL's subwoofer. You guys gave the more to think about. Thanks for the video comparison!
Have heard many people comment on the Kef falling short when having to work hard. I think they tried to get to much out of it! Sometimes it’s better to do some things very well and not try to do everything. I’ll go ReL for doing what they do consistently over and over. Svs 2 . Kef 3
Most buyers of Kef are not concerned with: ultimate spl, size of drivers, home theatre. As a company they have always been more about musical fidelity and listening experience at all volumes - as opposed to impressing friends with stats also and annoying your neighbours.
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Is the give away only for Canada? Not England? 😬
Oh, difficult choice and considering waf plus wallet... svs micro is my choice
I hope win the REL Subwoofer. Thanks
How would this even work? It's not possible to detect whether the user has shared or meet the requirements
Did the draw already happen? Who won? Cant seem to find the anouncement in any of your page. Same with the tekton lore giveaway. Thanks guys and more power!
KEF KC62 for me. Musicality and ability to disappear are most important for me. KEF has the lowest SPL output but I tend to run my subwoofer on the low setting anyway. Nice video guys. Great job!
The Kef really has my eye. In addition to multiple exceptional reviews, the size is just hard to beat. I could easily integrate dual KC62s into my smaller room without impacting the aesthetics or feel of the space in my smaller listening room. Not that any of these are large, but the KC62s are just so small, and the rounded matte finish boxes just seem more discrete. The white can just blend in to the walls and melt away.
Agreed. My KC62 arrives in two days.
@@Ford363Stroker Nice. How do you like your KC62?
It has your eye because you have a good eye! It's top notch.
I returned the KC62. You can definitely feel it. I just thought it lacked any type of texture or nuance compared to my SVS SB1000 Pro.
@@losriosprofundos2113 Appreciate the feedback!
Driver size and power shouldn't get any points. Just SPL and extension.
Agreed. Especially amplifier "claims" from the manufacturer. Weight should not matter either?
If you can't physically sense it (weight, appearance, sound), who cares?
I was confused about the points ratings for this review. I agree with other comments that some initial points should have a much smaller weighting applied.
Initially the REL was down approx 5 points against both. Once the HT, musicality scores started getting judged it made ground quickly which to me is of higher importance
@@anneliesmith7556 I think people claim it has musicality because it's harder to integrate things to go deeper. Doesn't mean they are worse.
With room calibration you'd more easily integrate things and they would all sound equally 'musical' but the better ones would go deeper than the REL.
Bass slowness is primarily due to peaks that make it sound slow to us. Get rid of the peaks and all of the sudden it sounds fast.
This is also why people have the mistaken belief that some speakers are too big for the room: there is no such thing. You simply need a way of taming the peaks that develop, you can still enjoy things that go down to 20hz in a small room.
This is same analogy and logic that would rate a Hellcat over a Porsche 911, based of engine size and specific outputs.
Two SVS subs linked with app control. best bang for the buck.
Not untrue but not true either. Entirely depends on your room.
Which is way better than 1 kef which is the same price as the 2 SVS
I love the utility of the SVS app, and combined with the affordability, I’d have to spend the extra hundred and get duals! No brainer for me. Having dual PB3000’s has been a game changer in my home. Also, since it’s dual use (70% movies, 30% music), it would be the perfect option. One final point not mentioned regarding the SVS connectivity is the Soundpath wireless integration. It is very handy for certain setups when wires are difficult to run. Their latest tri-band system is fantastic.
Great comparison points gentleman. I enjoyed this a lot.
Any thoughts on Kef?
Hard to say but the Kef has a certain feel to it that makes it for me.
I just ordered a full prime system, waited 37 days and returned, 100% of money returned and SVS paid the shipping! Outstanding! Now looking hard at the SVS ultra LCR and dual subs, but SVS has a huge edge with that customer service as a first time SVS customer.
I like the KEF, just a nice overall package.
Because you have exquisite taste my friend.
For music listening, I'd go with the Kef. Absolutely. Having a greater extension and a more linear and faster bass response is really nice to get it to integrate naturally with other speakers.
REL subs are finished so nicely. I was amazed when I unboxed mine. Also, twice REL went above and beyond to make sure I hooked up correctly.
The KEF is a beauty, but it is in a different price category than the REL.
Agreed, I love my 1st gen HT1205 and HT1508, I started with the SVS 2000 Pro but preferred the HT series.
The T7x looks stunning though, I would love to put one with my Advance Paris A10 and Triangle Comete, especially since I managed to place my HT subs to where you can't even tell where they are coming from.
I would love to test the Kef KC62 too, but at that price I would rather try out larger RSL or Rythmik subs.
5:50 It's always funny to me how audio reviewers love to give positive credit for the physical weight of gear. Maybe I'm weird, but my ears don't hear physical weight.
But my gimpy back does....I'd like to see my orthopedist a little less frequently.
Great comparison, but I would choose the REL over the other two because of ease of integration and musicality. However, I don't think you could go wrong with any of the three. If price were the most important factor the SVS would be my choice. If I was using KEF LS50 meta's the KEF would be a natural.
South Indian & South Korean, shares different tastes and different cultures but passion for sound unites.
The Rel is for Europeans.
I have 15 in. full range drivers in open Baffles powered by a Decware Zen triode SET Amp. I've been using two Klipsch Synergy Sub 10 Subwoofers for the past two years. I was only using the subs for heavy bass tracks for effect , because they didn't sound tight or clean with normal bass tracks.Yesterday i removed both of the Klipsch and replaced them with a REL T/7x . I was literally shocked at the difference it made. Beautiful full mid bass and tight , fast low bass. Anything i listen to sounds extremely better. I've been thinking of this purchase for a while, but watching this video a couple of days ago convinced me to take the leap. I am totally happy with the REL.
Love to both of you. I have Kef speakers as well. Also am living “alternative” lifestyle like you two fine men and appreciate your openness.
I love my SVS subwoofer. SVS has the best customer service. My SB 4000 subwoofer was having an issue after six years I contacted SVS hoping they would help me and they came through with flying colors they sent a new amp plate, and now my city is reporting mini earthquakes when my subwoofer is on. Again, thank you, SVS . Now that's customer service.
Sounds like the SVS is the clear winner once you factor price and the bluetooth app. Easier to set up. The fact that you can control the volume, switch between music and theater and night modes makes it a clear winner.
what is this "night mode" you speak of? I am looking into the SVS and am unaware of this yet
@@davidbowyer6840 night mode is simply reducing the volume output so that the sub is very quiet
What about actual LF extension/output? You covered overall output (REL wins) , but without knowing the source material it's difficult to tell which goes the lowest/loudest. The winner at 50hz may not be the highest at 25hz.
True- extension but will not have high SPL at those lower frequencies. Still, I love the KEF.
For me, it’s musicality and seemless Integration that matters the most always on a sub.
Word!
I bought two REL T7/i's and they gave a 60 day price guarantee. About a month later, they had a sale. I emailed and indeed, they honored the price guarantee on both subs & immediately credited my card. Sweet!
Do you have measurements for the subwoofers? I'm curious on the frequency response and the distortion levels.
I have LS50 wireless 2s and I’d still go REL. I just love the warmth and sound of a REL. The look of the new X series too... oooh
How the heck can a sub sound warmth?
Boomy, Flat, Tight, Fast, and Articulate. Warm...really?!
Good job guys. I never would have even thought twice about a Kef sub so that's opened my eyes up. I've been told a few times that Rel's are considered a sub-system rather than a subwoofer. I think that is fairly close to the mark. Yes I do own a Rel happily.
Nice! However I would like to add something. I own a PB13 ultra subwoofer, in a 2.1 channel setup. Since I am using an integrated amplifier and not an AVR it was a huge chore for me to adjust subwoofer settings by moving this 100+ pound subwoofer and changing settings from the back. This year I replaced the subwoofer amp to one of the new ones with Bluetooth control, and I absolutely LOVE it. In your test you gave Bluetooth app integration 1 point but in my book that is a crucial feature and deserves much more mention than that (I know you talked about it further in the end but still it’s an amazing feature). It has improved my quality of life when I need to change settings on the fly, and something I look for now in subwoofers especially large ones. I just ordered a PB16 ultra for my home theater over the monolith 15 because of Bluetooth app integrated
I'm very tempted to get the new subwoofer amp for my PB13 Ultra aswell!
I went with 2 B&W 608 subs. But that's because I got the two for $300 total, and my speakers are matching 606 s1.
I think I'd go with the KEF!
How does the KEF compare though with something like the Kube 12b? Would you rather a single 12" driver or the dual 6.5" drivers of the KC62?
I would probably choose the Rel in white but don’t think there is a wrong answer. Surprised it had the most dynamics though. Specs don’t lead to that take away but can’t just trust specs to make your decision. Great video!
Gosh results of the shoot out really help me make up my mind the distinction between what was the best second best third is so clear so easy to discern and the reason for it so easy to understand you might as well take this video and throw it in the trash
I'd personally like the REL or the SVS as mostly i do double purpose. Music and movies both. Currently using Paradigm sub for last 8 years. Have been planning to upgrade for last 2 years.
The KEF has a built-in dynamic EQ, to make it output more bass at lower volumes. This feature cannot be turned off! This means that the KEF is incompatible with all room correction solution. The KC62 is intended only for HI FI to accompany the KEF LS50. You should buy it for an AV receiver! The SVS is the best option for an AV receiver, but you better got with a SB2000 Pro instead, better yet, two of them.
I'm an SVS guy. I've got an SB-2000 and PC-2000 still performing very well. I bought the 3000 Micro to pair with my LS50 Metas for my PC audio system. I love this little guy! The wireless app and $700 savings over the KC62 along with my great experience with SVS made the Micro the obvious choice for me.
@@Shaken_AND_Stirred I've not used the SB3000. I think it would likely overpower the Micro, though. I love my non-pro SB2000, too. The Micro really surprised me with its tight, punchy bass at such a small size. It does great with my music and games on my PC. Hope this helps.
@@Shaken_AND_Stirred If size is not an issue, Sb3000! I have one and it shakes the room. Of course if your room is small SB3000 will overpower.
I like the idea of 2 SVS subs. That's my pick.
I would go for SVS simply because of the convenience of setting things up via the app. Convenience goes a long way for me. However, I'm sure I would be thrilled to own any of these, with any one of these adding to my listening enjoyment.
Don't be lazy Jerry.
From an audio consumer point of view, REL seems to have the best Brand Awareness among audio enthusiasts. The brand of REL is highly appreciated and has higher emotional connection with all segments of consumers. Going for REL is a complete no-brainer.
REL is not respected much in the audio world. They use to be great. I own an REL. Rythmik makes very nice subs as does KEL.
Rel Tx series for me!
This is an awesome comparison thank you so much guys
KEF has the wireless connection option for $200.
And I could be wrong, you can control the KEF with the LS50 wireless ll app. It will send bass signal all to the sub and the main speakers work less hard.
Since I ordered the LS50 wireless ll, the KC62 would be my clear choice. All the reviews seems positive.
I personally lean towards the KEF KC62 - I don't have a sub currently and I think it would go great with my 7 year old KEF floor standers
Yes it would. Work some overtime!
I bought the SVS. Once I got it integrated with my speakers, the music put me in a trance.
Tried the svs micro, too boomy/one note for my liking would love to hear the other subs in this video
Havent even used my Mini DSP or run Audyssey yet with the micro. Really? Boomy? You must be running it so hot in a bad location. Watch or read more reviews, you don't know how to dial in a sub. period.
@@patrickmiller4987 in your opinion….
@@martinaston1715 Sure my opinion. Find a legitimate review that calls this sub boomy and or one note! It may not have the output of my HSU 15" or SVS 12" ported cylinder but boomy and one note!? Give me break, reviewers would not be raving over a tiny $800 sub if that was the case, their reps at stake. Many dont know how to integrate, level match, or just dont like real bass in their music/movies! Have you listened to one?
@@martinaston1715
Of course in his opinion, but his opinion is backed by enough facts. No svs sub is boomy, not even their cheapest, let alone the micro. If it sounds boomy then room correction/DSP wasn't or correctly applied and/or speaker placement and/or room-treatment were horrible.
REL for me all day long, bc I value texture and musicality.
Great video as always!
Butt ugly profile pic btw..... but I guess it fits the name of the individual ;-)
@@larsv6144 hahahahaha
Triggered? Good.
@@deeplyclosetedindividual Triggered? Do you even know what that means? Oh, yes, your F news channel and especially that guy from your pic are constantly triggered by reality and facts. hahhaha
All the subs are obviously great but i would choose the rel. i have had several rel subs and find they blend with music so smoothly. Plus the finish and look is top notch
You guys do a great job with your scoring on this review
Thanks
I’m liking the new Rel Cabinet design and would probably have to go with the T7X
I bought the Totem Kin subwoofer with 150 watt amp built in. It goes down to 29 hertz and is tiny but it sounds pretty good paired to Canadian Noresco speakers from the 1960's which have German Isophon drivers. These speakers are over 50 years old, have nice veneer and still sound great driven by my Yamaha R700 receiver. Nothing has ever been done to these speakers which were bought new back in the day, they have cloth stitched on surrounds so they will never rot out like other speakers do. I doubt if any of these speakers you are testing will last as long as these Isophon drivers now known as GAUDER AKUSTIK.
I would choose the Rel because I already have one and I know what I'm getting. They blend seamlessly with main speakers. Their neutrik sets them apart
Which one? Also, do you do a lot of steroids? Not recommended.
@@MOAB-UT REL t7i. Nope. All natural. Workout hard..take creatine and whey protein. It's called hard work. Sitting on your couch. Not recommended.
@@ryanschipp8513 IF you are natural take it as a compliment. You do look good. Wish I had that many muscles. IF you are on the juice, just stop it. Stop it now.
@@MOAB-UT thanks for the compliment:-) I've always been active in sports and lifting weights. It's a passion of mine. I never got into drugs ever. I'm married and have two children and value my life and life with them.
Love REL's dual simultaneous use of hi-fi and home cinema setups through parallel connections (high level + LFE)
Does the REL parallel connection feature offer an advantage over having an AVR do the same?
@@fumpt Honestly, as long as the Front L & R are crossed over smoothly with the sub, an AVR with a sub is the better option. But I'm not a "go big or go home" audiophile.
I like all 3. But I'd have to stick with Rel for my Maggie's.
Thank you guys for another objective and logical video. Sounds like its impossible to decide between the REL and the KEF without listening to them side by side. Thank you again!
I would take SVS because I already have SVS 1000 and it's within my budget LOL. But if $$$ were unlimited I would go with KEF everywhere!
Or save a little more to get 2 SVS’s
I would buy a pair of the SVS 3000 Micro for my Home Theater (KEF Q10, Reference 90 Center, & 6 HTS-2001 Satellite; I LOVE KEF) in a Yamaha DSP 9.2 Set-Up. The Price/Performance Aspect is unparalleled given that you're not sacrificing Quality & the remote BASS App control from the listening position tips the Scales.
Really useful video, thank you. I've never owned an SVS or a REL. However, I'm very keen to upgrade my old B&W PV1 with one of these. My listening room is approx 25sq. metres. I was almost convinced that SVS will be a better sub but after watching your video I'm very keen now to go for a REL, instead. Thanks and, keep doing what you are doing!
You can snag a REL HT/1205 at Best Buy today for $449. You can, and should get the full 4 year warranty for $44 more. It's a great deal. I just bought one. You also have 15 days to try it.
I would choose the KC62. Smaller footprint for my smaller room, and sounds like it would be the best match to go with my bookshelfs which are very fast.
Great review, guys! For me, the winner would be the REL because of its well known elegance and musical prowess! 😉
I used to have an older REL T3 and it was an impressive little sub. It was in my budget at the time but knew going in it was undersized for the room (open layout home) but even then it was fantastic. It was still loud enough to shake the kitchen cabinets and rattle the glasses. But it also sounded clean and simply blended in when listening to music. The extension was impressive and seemed more than specified by REL. Sadly though the amp died after 6 years of service. I’ll be buying the new T7X soon and can’t wait!
I had a real T1 loved that sub
The SVS wins this it's a great Subwoofer. Especially for price.
Excellent video. Really useful and interesting comparison. I have 2 Rel T9I subs which I use to augment my Kef Ref 5 floorstanders. I’ve been thinking of placing a 3rd sub at the rear of the room. I was leaning toward the Kef. Your video has pushed me more towards the Rel.
Keep up the good work.
I already have the svs3000 and I'm very happy with it. I have not heard the other two yet.
Im considering this subwoofer also, how big is your room?
@@hclandscapes 15 BY 30 MORE OR LESS
I’d go with the Kef and hopefully be done thinking about subwoofers!
I like the SVS subs but I’m really curious to listen the REL in my system (HT and music)
I am a two channel listener. Hard to say from this but I would go with either a single Kef KC62 or given space constraints and cost two Rel T/5x one per channel.
The KEF for sure! Musicality the number one factor for me.
I would choose the REL T7X, because of it's musicality as mentioned by Jay, and that it has both downward & forward-firing drivers.
So close for me between REL and SVS. Literally on the boomy fence. Great video gentlemen.
I would choose the SVS because I want multiples and price will be the bigger factor
KEF all day every day! But the Rel would be a close second.
Power cables! 🔌 I’m running KEF LS50 Meta on T+A AMP8 amplifier. My sub is a REL T7i. So here’s an interesting fact... I borrowed and then bought a 3m $700 Transparent Audio power cable for the REL sub, and plugged it into my Transparent Powerwave conditioner with the rest of my components. The speed, accuracy and musicality of the REL went through the roof. It just disappeared. I was shocked with the difference. Food for thought 🇿🇦
Excellent comparison, can’t go wrong with any of these brands.
Great review! It was very fair. I would pick the REL. Because of performance and appearance. My wife liked the REL as well. Happy Wife happy life. Keep up the great work guys.
I would go Rel. Super musical and can fill a larger room than the others.
With LS 50 speakers I would choose the KEF KC62. For all other main speakers I would choose the REL T7X - except that the SVS app is very appealing.
And REL comes from behind for the win. Shows that base specs don’t always tell the tale.
you never mentioned the HT1003 like you said you would, I wonder how it fits amongst all this?
Maybe I missed it, but I was hoping for some SPL numbers and some test setup info. For the life of me I can't find any REL real world measurements like those that are standard for Pro Audio subs.
As someone who had a Rel, when set up properly, they dissapear and before you know it, your speakers seem to have magically have more depth and extension.
It’s obvious that rel it’s a overall rounded subwoofer musical and nice. But I purchased the svs because the price.
This would be a tough choice for me. Because of the cosmetics and quality of build, I would choose the REL.
definately KEF KC62 given the clean design and small size while maintaining the musicality and seamless intergration with speakers
The KEF looks so good, a big reason to choose it for an living-room setup. But boy is it expensive..
Where all the subs broken in before the tests?
Kef is awesome but a little bit pricey. My choice is REL. Thank you guys for the comparison, this is exactly what I needed!
Gotta go with REL. Love their subs.
Looking to add SVS 3000 micro to my system. it looks like a good match.
I added two pb3000s to my theater and they continue to amaze over a year later. They can be subtle and elegant or deep and bone shaking very smoothly. Their app should have added 4 points or more to this comparison.
How big was the space for the pressurization test, would a dual KC62/92 put it over the top?
Interesting video. I am following up on purchasing two Rel T7x to add into our 2 channel system. Hope they live up to expectations!!!
I would go with dual KEF KC62s.Musically delicious?
Great review!!! thank you guys! just bought the KEF ls 50 wireless 2, they are absolutely super! couldn't be happier. but yeah, the KEF kc 62 would be a great upgrade I think. greetings from Jakobstad Finland
I would like to know what were the components of the system you made your tests with, full detail if you please.
The price to performance of the SVS along with the warranty for a multipurpose room makes too much sense. The question is what happens with the BT app when you have two SVS subs in the same room....fun video thanks for the shootout.
From what I know (only found one youtuber talking about this), you will need to go from one to another sub to change settings. You cannot change the settings from 2 subs at the same time for now. But maybe it could be implemented in the app if the bluetooth version allows to connect 2 subs.
Musicality should be *double points*... So, the KEF KC-62 for me. ;-) I have LS-50's, so also a good match.
Traditionally, I've been a REL fan though. I'd sure like to hear them both in person. Thanks for your review!
Most of the categories are subjective, so to each their own, therefore weighted average categories will be different for different users.
Like the look of the REL, the size of the KEF and the price of the SVS. I would likely go with the REL for the musicality and option of in home trial.
Svs has in home trial too. 2 subs is always better than one.
Martin Logan’s Dynamo line of subs deserves mentioning. Hope you’ll do a review of them someday.
Another awesome video! I thought that the KEF subwoofers would be the ones for me, but after watching this video, I am way more interested to learn more about the REL's subwoofer. You guys gave the more to think about. Thanks for the video comparison!
What did you get? KEF beats REL for music...and I own a REL 1205.
Have heard many people comment on the Kef falling short when having to work hard.
I think they tried to get to much out of it!
Sometimes it’s better to do some things very well and not try to do everything.
I’ll go ReL for doing what they do consistently over and over.
Svs 2 . Kef 3
REL for me due to being the best balanced between price and overall performance for a 50/50 setup. Very musical but with the highest output of the 3.
Rel for price vs performance + musicality but all 3 look amazing!!
I would go for the Rel to provide both home theatre and musical performance
REL has no deep bass, bad for home theater.
Jay, what is your current subwoofer and your reference system?
Hi Jay, for a medium to large room, would you recommend rel t7x or kef kc62 for music if they are the same price?
What about room correction? It makes difference for bass renderering
Most buyers of Kef are not concerned with: ultimate spl, size of drivers, home theatre. As a company they have always been more about musical fidelity and listening experience at all volumes - as opposed to impressing friends with stats also and annoying your neighbours.
I like KEF KC62....Traditionally, I've been a REL fan though. I'd sure like to hear them both in person. Thanks for your review!
Would there be any competitors on the used market. Looking for a compact used sub in the 400-600 price range to go with my Kef ls50 speakers