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ADVChina you didn’t say where you are driving around today! Just hanging out in Cali? Edit: Oh, I see you are out in Hemet. Did you gentlemen enjoy your time there? It seems like it was a nice overcast day at least.
well 1. when you guys were in china it felt like you liked the liberal view on things you could do almost what you want. 2. in usa you feel conservative. or more like normally moral people
It is kind of cute when they begin to understand that China is in no shape or form socialist haha. It is like calling the British empire socialist. I mean the government was large and powerful under the British empire duuuhhhh. Some people have such bad understanding of what capitalism is so that they can't see pure early stage capitalism if it was beating them to death. Then again, the Americans did have their democracy handed to them on a plate while the rest of world hade to have class struggle to gain democracy.
@@jeep1077 Do you really think all Trump supporters believe in that. That's like saying all Biden supporters support the riots and destruction of small businesses.
ScorpionLegos im not saying I believe in Q, but could explain how that is extremist, and if so, could explain how it is bad? Extremism on the left looks like riots and newspeak. What’s the violent aspect of Q?
@@silentt2143 I haven't been able to get any clear answers about what Q believes but the one thing that keeps coming up is that the main stream media is very biased towards the left. One trick to test for bias is to look at the photos they hold in view. If one candidate looks dignified and friendly and the other looks like a scary idiot than the media supports the better photo.
If people in the US didn't complain about "small things", then the "small" potholes would be allowed to become the bigger "potholes" that you've pointed out other countries have.
That's a good point. High standards and expectations are what separates the Western world from somewhere like China, where people don't question or complain about things that are a concern or nuisance. Having a high expectation for different services, products or daily life is a result of living in a high functioning society. Sure it can be annoying having Karen's around, but they and people like them essentially keep our society in check so that we can ensure our society functions at a high quality and level of standard
@@Mattmon777 Reminds me of Japan politician who was crying and apologizing on TV because he took too much money from rich and power donors. In the US that corruption is praised.
SirLGM re: straws, it may seem like those decisions are coming at the expense of bigger stuff, but really it seems like the smaller stuff is all that can get done because the bigger stuff is completely blocked by vested interests. Lobbyists for banks, pharma, telco, media, tech, nra, mining, etc lock in their advantage through political corruption, blocking progress on issues that matter.
Winston to your point about Americans complaining about small things little potholes ect. The reason why we complain is we pay 💰 big fat sums to make the place 👍 nice but we constantly feel like we are being fleeced. Project are all over budget and behind schedule. Example :The big dig or commuter trains in California and Hawaii Not roads but you get the point. We have massive waste fraud and abuse,and the people in the government just complain they need more money never to fix how the money was spent to begin with.
So true. Here in California, we don't have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem. Actually we now have a revenue problem because the California Democrats have shut down the economy for so long due to Covid-19, that the tax received by the state is very low. They did it to us and to themselves!
Spode Boy I agree but to be more precise It’s silly laws that say for example a contract must go to a minority owned business. On its face that might seem reasonable. However one example I am aware off Involved the purchase of building materials. But said business owned by a minority simply bought the materials from home depot and sold it to our state. It’s my assertion that is where the waste is. A law that says you must waste money. Turning state purchases into some kind of social justice experiment means that when you think they are building something they are also effectively handing out cash. Don’t forget all the paperwork and waiting for approval (delays) Another example is after Hurricane Katrina they needed to remove all of the junk cars Louisiana paid somebody to remove the cars There was a contractor who was offering to pay the state for the scrap value of the cars plus remove them at no charge. What do think they did?
@@Spodeboy LOL "The tax received by the state is very low"? The California governor just announced they have a $97.5 billion budget surplus, what planet are you living on?
I’ve heard that style of complaint from foreigners “you’ve got it so good, you’re complaining about small stuff”.. are we meant to accept increased corruption, loss of freedom, worse services, etc than prior generations?
well... they have a point. Often times we certainly complain about things that are not important, then demand change because we are whiny, then a slew of unattended consequences happen. We all too often throw the baby out with the bath water. To demand better is good, but I often find those who complain are also the least to pitch in, and often complain of things they want for themselves, not what is better for everyone. I would argue a lot of our complaining about stupid stuff, has in fact, led to increased corruption, loss of freedom, and worse services than prior generation. We need to find a balance somewhere in there.
They sound clueless like they woke up in another planet. It's only great because people have free speech. What a limited understanding as to why the US became a leading nation. It's the people striving for equality. But Winston is right about universities.
Complaining about the little things - that's how Americans try to raise or at least maintain their living standards. If no one speaks up, nothing will get done. It's a free and vocal society that tries to keep the government on their toes and under threat of replacing responsible parties during elections. That's the beauty of democracy.
@@JH-qy7zw corruption does not develop over a 3-8 year period man it is a genrational issue, it devolps into the system if allowed to swell long enough like how all of the ccp and people who work inside it are systematicly corrupt because the actual system encoruges and support it. i can say much much more but simply put you are wrong. if there is an injustice speak out about it, if there is inequality then strive to equalize the playing field. i agree some problems being complained about are stupid but that just mean's we have to focus on the important one's instead.
@@chickenmonger123 completely agree. I just thought it was funny. I'm the same, I also purposely put my self in position where I'm uncomfortable and move to countries different from my home country.
12:56 Honestly no idea what you're talking about. I'm French,but despite the high quantity of american/english content I watch,especially on the left,I never seen any political channel saying authoritarianism is good or that China is a good country.
IT professional here. I wish that IT still had the amount of opportunities that it used to for people without degrees who have good skills. Honestly, some of the best people in IT have either not had degrees or have had an unrelated degree (like they were a business major who got roped into running their company's servers because they knew a bit about computers and it just kind of took off for them). Sadly, degrees are being demanded more and more these days for IT, from what I understand, and I have personally seen that cause problems for someone with fantastic skills. A lot of IT people feel the same as I do - that skills are better than degrees and certificates every time - but there are usually other, non-IT people involved in these hiring processes.
Big Tech is hiring from outside of America so they can pay lower wages. It's ridiculous. No one here has a chance without a degree and with it, they don't want to pay. I don't like government intervention but they're become monopolies working against American workers and encouraging censorship.
Americans aren't welcome in American IT jobs anymore. So no one cares if you have a degree or not. You could turn in an empty application and it gets the same review as all the others - ignored.
I hate the expression IT professional. It's too general. If you are a programmer, companies are hiring programmers from US universities. Programmers working in other countries are not cost effective anymore. Too much babysitting required for the most basic tasks. If you're doing relatively unskilled IT work then your job is still threatened by random Indian companies, but things will change. There aren't any cheaper countries left that speak good English. Indian wages are growing, and the best workers are now doing IT for Indians so the Indian talent pool left for greedy American companies is shrinking.
@@MargieM10 They are monopolies because the government is constantly increasing protections for this corporations, like increasing copyright lengths, allowing more and more being patent, laws that protect DRM and abolishing laws that gave you the right to make a back up copy. Its currently impossible to write large software without violating many software patents.
I would class myself as basically all around computer themed person for me being able to make programs or upgrade whenever I want I can get jobs very easy me having a degree or not more less never comes up in a chats . All my friends who are making big money computer wise only like 5 of them have a degree out of so many thousands without degrees overall.
There's regional differences. In Texas, I was taught that there are two things you dont talk about at dinner or with company: politics and religion. That's changing now, but it was the tradition in my area.
My grandfather said the same, including money as well.. Baby boomers rebelled against their parents whenever possible and the US suffered as a result (what's wrong with trading w China, daddy-o?). Great video! German/Netherlands use of taxation to reduce the genie coefficient seems reasonable and provides great services/infrastructure. When you make more than $250k a year or so, you get taxed at a higher rate. So, including options etc, it seems there is a balance between incentive to be successful, and allowing opportunity for those without support or education advantages. Anyway, great vids, always, and best regards!
"Well then you're working for the wrong company." Aye, there's the rub. "The wrong company" is just about every company if you don't want to have a low paying Joe-job. It's a romantic notion that everyone can just start their own company where not having a degree is no biggie. But the vast vast vast majority of people will have an employer. And just about all of those employers require a degree (in anything, it doesn't really matter). I do agree that a lot of university degrees are useless fluff, and it would be much wiser for many many more Americans to focus on getting a technical education. Also, there needs to be a refocusing towards trades (welders, machinists, mechanics, etc) that are critically understaffed.
Bernie's plan was to Guarantee tuition and debt-free public colleges, universities, HBCUs, Minority Serving Institutions and trade-schools to all. That would've been nice
@@Cryosxify giving Americans access to education is too "radical marxist communist socialist tyrannical baby killer gun snatching left wing". I'm dumb founded how easily people were tricked into voting against their own interests.
I can never agree with the libertarian mindset for one fairly big reason. Big companies NEED regulating. Especially in these days in America. You have the most disgusting water supplies, a dreadfuly infrastructure and so on. Regulation here in Europe shows it works. I agree that you can't have so much government ruling your life, so there is merit in there, but the whole "hands off" approach is untenable.
@TexasPROUD Good job Im not American then isn't it, idiot? I made that pretty clear in my post. And who cares what a constitution says. It can stil be wrong. Society is fluid and changes and if you rememerbed your consitution is ALSO fluid too as that why it's INTENDED to be amnede. Funny that, A british person teaching you about your contitution, isn't it? The fact remains you have big companies that run roughshod over laws and require regulation. That's clearly demonstrable, fuck what any constitution says.
And again, even if what you said were true, it STILL doesn't dispute the point about businesses needing regulation. You didn't think this through did you? May I suggest you change your name to something more appropriate, say TexasThickAsShit?
@TexasPROUD Cool, then demonstrate WHY instead of running away. I've already showed you WHY it's a good thing as we do it here in Europe and it keeps companies in line. Show me why you think you don't need that.
Left and right is a too simplistic way to look at politics, there's really at least four major metrics. Power of government is separate from economic structure, on the power spectrum, you've got Authoritarianism on one side and Anarchy on the other, neither is good for society. Authoritarianism creates dystopian hellscapes, Anarchy creates chaos, government power must be balanced to some reasonable level in between. Economic structure is the other major metric, on one side is highly regulated (communist, socialist), the other is no regulation (neo-liberalism). Again, extremes are bad for society, over-regulation doesn't work well, it breaks down logistically because the market can't respond naturally and dynamically to the billions of things that are constantly happening. Also, too much regulation has the unwanted side-effect of often being associated with authoritarian regimes due to needing a very powerful government to enforce the regulations. However, too little regulation, and we get stuff like the 2009 financial crises which was precipitated by deregulation of derivatives that allowed bankers to make money hand over fist by promoting a completely unsustainable lending system. If you give huge corps the ability to privatize gains and socialize losses, they will do it all day every day, where execs make millions and the public bails them out when shit hits the fan. So, we don't want anarchy, we don't want authoritarianism, we don't want too much economic regulation, we don't want too little economic regulation. Sometimes things go too far in one direction or another and they need to be RE-BALANCED back to something reasonable. - The example of medical costs in this country being 2x more expensive than any other country on the planet is an example of an IMBALANCE that has gone too far in the non-regulated direction as there is unmitigated greed pervasive in the system that is bleeding Americans dry. So yes, gov needs to step up here and put more reasonable regulations in place, but, fighting excessive corporate greed is tough in the states with so much money in politics. It creates a culture of grifting, greed, and corruption on both sides of the political spectrum. - Overly advantageous to big money interests, disadvantageous to the American people. Our twice as expensive medical system is a great example of this at work.
I would generally agree with this comment. In reading through it however, I was thinking to myself that "....yes, this is reasonable...but I wonder how many people will read down through all of this...", as many Americans are lazy and not willing to read beyond a couple of sentences. Then I read the first response about Americans needing it dumbed-down and it made me laugh. As the comment noted, we need balance. Nothing on Earth is simple, nor are humans, nor are the societies that we've set up.
So where does China sit? They are hard against the authoritarian but on the commerical side there is next to no regulation. Government ultimately owns every corporation but the party member cream off the profits and ill-gotten gains while the authoritarian politics hide the reality from it's people
@@Dave5843-d9m Yes, highly authoritarian with most large Chinese companies acting as tendril extensions of the government, expanding and solidifying their power. China has become much more capitalistic over time to be more competitive, and to enrich those in power. The shift I believe came about largely due to Deng, who was highly pragmatic. But the point is, economic philosophy and government power are often incorrectly conflated in American politics. A country can end up with authoritarianism on either side of the economic philosophy spectrum, think Stalin vs Pinochet for instance. Hence the argument that the right vs left dichotomy is an overly simplistic and not very useful way of evaluating politics.
im saving this comment from how....hmm on point? it is, iv been telling American's for year's that you need at least 5 or 6 political system's. left and right are too little and barley fill the hole of actual topic's and concern's that need addressing.
the fact that Americans can and will speak up about things they don't like is why America continues to evolve. Anyone who tries to stop Americans from complaining is either not American or someone who is seeking power.
the problem is they complain about the tiny little things while ignoring the MAJOR problems such as a country being sold to China, not having the right to support freedom in America is kinda big much bigger than oh he should address me as X, big companies kneeling to china is more important than oh the police are doing their freaking job which is arresting criminals, babies & children getting killed is bigger than every freaking movie has to have male gay couples and all female leaders, the american society is being torn apart inside out and all they care is the next hip song (not even a song) that showed the biggest tits which can't be sexulizedd even
@@ItsameAlex you have the right to complain about whatever you want to complain about and no one can stop you - for now any way - seems like Americans are more and more open to restricting free speech - seeing how FASCISM is suddenly "cool" and "common sense"
Why is it that experiencing hardship mean you lose all empathy for others experiencing such things? They literally said that they bear a resentment to older generations cos they had it easier, yet cannot understand why people younger than them would hold the same viewpoint
I'm not really sure either. I think it is all too common to assume you earned your place more than someone else. To me, it felt a bit tone-deaf in light of racial tensions and political corruption. Also anyone who cares to say the older generation had it easier, or that everything was given to them is mistaken. They neglected issues such as HIV/Aids pandemic, WWII, Korean and Vietnam War, Lynchings and Civil Rights violations, gender discrimination in and out of the workplace, and the list goes on. The same goes for their talking about "young people" who apparently ask for everything for free, but neglect that many of those young people are working 50 or 60 hour work weeks at minimum wage. They also neglect that to pay for the "free" services, they are asking for increased taxes, hence: it isn't free. It's a government insurance plan which is no more socialist than any other property, auto and/or health insurance (minus the man in the middle pocketing profits).
Would also agree with Noah on this - but wish to point out one thing: Experiencing hardship develops empathy for others - it does not diminish it. Having NOT experienced hardship (as in one famous Cheeto) negates the development of empathy. I grew up in a dysfunctional wealthy household and when I got out on my own I discovered how screwed up my worldview was. Thankfully I've had lots of nice, very patient friends who have been helping me over the years, and I like to think that I've improved, and have developed more empathy for others, etc. That said, I look at the Cheeto and can only shake my head at how permanently screwed up that worldview must be...how totally disconnected with any reality, etc.
"older generations cos they had it easier" younger people say this with no empathy to what the older generation went through. I know what my grandparents and parents lived like, I know what they sacrificed, I know how they packed all lunches, ate at home for dinner every night, lived in a "small home" their entire lives content (which everyone now calls a small starter home), sewed their own clothes, repaired worn clothes by hand, had only one vehicle, one tv, used wood instead HVAC because it was cheaper. I am not saying that things were not different, that some things haven't been worse for us, but some things are remarkably better for us as well. I will say that I know very, very, very few that live now as thrifty as previous generations did... and those that do are often made fun of for not "living their best life now".
think a lot of younger americans wanna go by in the ”work to live not live to work” mentality bc the reality is that not everyone gets to vlog on motorcycles and tell stories for a living. feel like some of the perspective in this is p myopic imho but it is what it is
like “don’t go to uni” when not even grads can get jobs in their fields so nobody hiring a guy w just a GED, “americans always complain, have u seen the roads they are great” when most americans live paycheck to paycheck and fucking up their car in a big ass pothole could mean dipping into what little savings you have to pay to repair your car. like shit man
@@Ram-zc4fi i know winston has experienced poverty but he also has a contempt of poverty and struggle that's wildly arrogant, at least where Americans are concerned
@@Ram-zc4fi Well it's emboldened by the fact that many people get crushed by student debt and many of them don't even finish graduation, leaving them with debts that they struggle to pay off entirely.
Thanks for sharing your guys thoughts, glad to see you guys being clear and respectful with the audience. Even if I may personally not agree with everything you guys say I can appreciate the clarity and sincerity... Stay awesome guys!
True. I don't really agree much with what these guys believe about personally, but I feel like in this talk they were honest and at least morally aren't in favor of authoritarianism, which is a relief. Also a Bernie supporter I appreciate them calling out the media bias, as well as the healthcare and university expenses we have here. I do think there was a misunderstanding concerning the state of relationships because of personal politics; To some it may not be important, but with the divisions going on it's become a larger issue of a person's ethics, and your perception of the history of the other's politics. May sound dumb, but there it is.
@@greywolf845 I wonder how much of it is just the Internet. The vast majority of people don't have a strong enough opinion or the time to log on and rant about stuff, whether they are left or right-leaning. I hope the drivel I read coming from both sides is just representative of a vocal minority. I've never seen so many people (again, from both sides) be frothing at the mouth for violence or hoping that Person X or Person Y gets hurt or worse. Also a Bernie supporter who will be voting Biden, but I have no trouble shooting the shit with people from all persuasions. One of my favorite drinking buddies is a Trump supporter. Of course, we have some spirited debates but at the end of the day it's all in good fun and we both enjoy having friendly turf to be able to polish our arguments for our positions.
@So Good I agree. However, they don’t seem to understand that Bernie Sanders’ appeal to young people is that he connects with young Americans’s struggles and offers a path to which they can be addressed, not a top-down system. Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist, not a communist.
@@hellogoodmorning8888 Yes, but they've probably been hammered with "Bernie Sanders is a socialist" so many times that it's stuck. With the level of gaslighting that's going on in our country, it seems that political definitions have lost all meaning.
Imagine thinking America still rewards hard work. Millennials work longer hours then any other generation and will still be poor than their parents. 68000 people die a year without access to healthcare and people go bankrupt regularly for getting sick. Gofundme has literally become a platform where people beg other people to bail them out of life ruining medical debt and fund life-saving treatments. Education is less affordable than ever and America has a serious problem with a lack of skilled labor, especially in stem fields. Then there's the fact that the minimum wage allows someone to work full time and still be below the poverty line if they have a partner. These are all facts and no amount of whataboutism will change the fact America doesn't work for most people and the American dream is dead.
...and yet we have more immigration from around the world and not many people leaving the U.S... Maybe they just didn't get the news about the death of the American Dream.
I've lived in a 3rd world country. I hear you guys talk about how great it is in the USA. You guys have a very specific perspective based on your experience. You've clearly never been homeless in the USA with no family to turn to. I have. You've never gone weeks without food in the USA. I have. You've never had people judge you and look down on you because you're from a ghetto. I've literally had parents of friends forbid them from hanging out with me. Not because I was a bad influence or getting anyone into trouble. Just because I was poor and black. You have no choice but to work your ass off and I have. I definitely appreciate everything that I have and that I've been able to work for and build up. But just because you guys haven't experienced the "worst of it" doesn't mean that there aren't people with legitimate hardships and concerns. There are people suffering in the USA just like there are people suffering everywhere else in the world. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. And it's honestly not cool of you to keep belittling them and say everyone just cries about nothing. People believing in a minimal safety net doesn't mean anyone wants everything handed to them. I've never on unemployment in my life but I believe it should be available for people who need it.
@@Weezerfier who the hell said anything about antifa? Why do you assume I support them? Delete the stuck-record narrative playing on repeat in your head then Come back when you're capable of having a normal conversation.
@@Weezerfier I support the people and movements that champion my values. Just like everyone else. The fact that you immediately reference Antifa as a baseline of liberal ideological preference just shows how completely out of touch you are.
@dendo111 LOL! Dude your NHS is collapsing and is ultimately subsidized by US consumers who pay higher costs. SOCIALISM IS DESTROYING YOUR COUNTRY AND OUR WORLD! Screw Bernie, Screw Biden, Trump is saving the world! Pay attention to what he's actually saying and doing instead of getting propaganda from the media.
"People seem to be supporting this guy talking about making healthcare vastly more affordable, but I dont really see what that's all about. Anyway, what do you think Winston?" "America's super great. Except for healthcare. The system's absolutely insane!" "I agree. But, yeah, these Bernie people... what are they on about?"
@SirVixIsVexed Wow, you think privately run healthcare with no regulation would police itself your blind. The entire not covering preexisting conditions was a big issue and was soley due to the fact that private insurance companies were allowed to do what they wanted on that front. The market will not self regulate regardless of what you think. Remember preexisting conditions. Until the ACA/Obamacare insurance companies avoided covering those because there was no regulation saying they had to. The ACA is far from perfect, primarily because it is still based around a for profit system but it was a start. We need to continue to find ways to change and and improve our healthcare system, not simply tear it all down like Trump wants to. Also being able freely buy insurance across states lines which I suspect is part of your argument would do little to change that since the costs associated with healthcare in each state and even in part of each state are different due to differences in cost of living, cost of services and cost of real estate. A doctor or hospital in major metro areas will have higher overheads than one in more rural areas even within the same state. That will directly affect the insurance companies profit if that patient got their insurance from some state with much lower cost of living. For buying a car or a new washing machine private competition works. For being able to get food affordable healthcare that same business model does not work. Getting good healthcare should not have to rely totally on a for profit business model.
I feel like my problem with listening to this was the total dismissal of the idea of a libertarian left. All of these points were very grounded in a belief of leftism necessarily needing an authoritarian state to function.
That is because it does. Without the authoritarian aspects it cannot function that's the only way you can force people to give up what rightfully belongs to them.
Honestly that's because the libertarian left is a fucking joke, has no opposition party, and sucks up to puppets like bernie or disregards the entire political system rather than voting libertarian regardless of the left/right divide. When the boot is being strapped you should support anyone willing to oppose the strapping of the boot.
I'm also from South Africa and I can completely understand where Winston is coming from. Political cynicism here is at an all-time high, especially among the whites, who just keep their heads down and hope things will keep on going for a few more years (nobody thinks beyond a few more years). We also have our escape plans for those who have money to afford them: first option, Australia, then, in approximate order, New Zealand, Britain, Canada and the US. But the place is still ticking along after 26 years of the new dispensation. I think it has more resilience than many give it credit for. One thing that seems unlikely is the emergence of a dictatorial Leader and Father of the Nation in the style of Mugabe, who totally destroyed Zimbabwe over a 20-year period. If nothing else, the ANC has a habit of kicking out premiers who are too obviously incompetent. Their political majority is less than it used to be and they know there are limits on how far they can go.
Justin I'm worried for the whites of S. Africa. For those who don't have a lot of money, they need to have options also. Orania is a nice idea but surrounded completely by ANC controlled areas. Escape options for the not-so-rich should include Botswana, Namibia and Zimbabwe right? Also what about creating your own state and try for independence, perhaps in the Northwest part of the country (area with highest percentage of Whites)? Needs to have a port city for escape and/or international military support.
@@theresathekid8261 Yes they are, and in increasing numbers. It's also dangerous in the cities: you have to be streetwise when travelling anywhere. My home has security gates on the front and back doors, an alarm system, a security fence round the property and a 24-hour security guard on our street - and that's quite normal. My workplace is surrounded by an electric fence, razor wire, alarm triggering lasers, and a security guard during night time and the weekends. Our premises were still broken into about 4 or 5 times. I've been mugged three times but the last time was a few years ago (I'm more awake now). I feel for the farmers, but I have to admit that for urban whites there is a kind of normality. It's a lot like the old Wild West - ordinary people in those western towns got on with their lives, but made sure to get out of the way of the people with guns, and accepted robbery and the odd killing as par for the course.
@@jackfroste One of my work colleagues just told me, now, that he was held up at an ATM yesterday by two blacks, one armed with a pistol, who took his card and drew R1000 cash from another ATM about two minutes later. Very much a day in the life...
May be a hot mess, but it's nice to hear the appreciation for things most take for granted. Makes you think of small things we take for granted, and be grateful. As someone who's studied world history, I feel what you mean about people complaining over tiny things and just acting spoiled. It can definitely be worse.
People would be shocked how many plumbers and electricans make six figures within a decade of starting. And if you eventually go out on your own you can easily pull in a few hundred thousand in work per year by yourself. And those aren't even the best paying trades. I have a buddy who became a welder who travels all over the world doing specialized jobs and he's already a multi-millionaire at 40 years old. And he's not even that amazing of a welder. He just learned some specific skills that put him in demand. Recession proof, Covid-19 proof jobs. Go to school if you want to be an engineer, etc. We have enough liberal arts degrees. We actually have a shortage of people who work with their hands and it will only get worse in the future if we keep forcing school on our kids. Most of Germany years a trade. Relatively few go to school. It's not some backwards approach.
He’s not wrong. There is a ton of useless knowledge taught at Universities as if people are encyclopedias and google doesn’t exist. Universities are only useful if they are training for a specific field
@@RJT80 lmao always goota be shitting on the art and humanities. you do realize those things are just as needed four our societ yas engineering and maths dont oyu?
Winston I love you, but I really have to disagree with you when it comes to you calling americans spoiled for complaining. Yes things are far and away better here than in south africa or china, but that doesnt invalidate the ability to criticize or call for improvement, because america is in many ways worse off than most other first world nations.
Yes and this is an excellent way to see standards fall even faster. Does Winston think we got what we have in the US from gratitude journals? Um no we fought and died for this standard of living which slips away more by the year
I love the humour of these guys. Still have to laugh, when I think about the dictator scene in worthless whips... It's just to much and that's why it's funny.
It is mostly the young naive youth that are easily influenced by grand notions of revolution, they just want something to fight against, but have no clue what it really is they want. Most of them hold very weak arguments if pressed..... on the other hand, I work with a lot of Vietnamese, and they have very strong opinions about Communism.
I'm an American socialist who would never defend the Vietnamese government lmao. Anyone sane doesn't. I wanna model our government more like European democracies.
In Tennessee, we have 5 (full time) semesters of free community college after High School. The high schools here are alright but the colleges are great. (Not university)
Williamson County deserves a shoutout here though, has some of the highest performing public schools in the country. Not the greatest of the greatest, but certainly capable of landing in the top 1% each year.
What drives me crazy about this "Stop complaining. Try living in a third world country!" is, that 1. that someone else has it worse has no bearings on if something is worthy of improvement. 2. thematizing problems, making aware of problems and discussing problems, or complaining in other words, is fundamental to improving things. I might even say the absence of it is a fundamental reason why some countries like China get stuck with problems. You guys complain that China lacks a civil society and are right about it. The suffocation of the civil society is how Putin or the CCP are securing their power and its side effect is that there is no societal motor for positive change and solving problems. Politics in a republic is happening in large parts outside of state institutions. The democractic republics of the world currently face a problem with the modern, digital information space. And the US suffers even more from that due to the effective 2 party system and the structure of the media landscape, leading to an accelerated creation of information silos and polarization. In Europe, we are a few years behind in that, but on the same path. The problem with that is that it rips apart civil society into isolated fragments and effectively sabotages the "pre-political" political processes. If you want a very illustrative example of how important a civil society is, compare Russia and Ukraine. Both separated into separate states 30 years ago. In Ukraine, Oligarchs and corrupt politicians failed in suppressing civil society. In Russia, they succeeded, with the dying scream of russian civil society being silenced with the crushing of the post 2012 election protests.
Higher education is very important. It's true that university has become a con for most people, but it's ignorant to think a country can just dispense of true higher education even if it's only for a minority. It's a crucial minority that the country needs. Yep, the majority of people would probably do better not going to university at all. But it's still incredibly important and strategic that certain bases are covered, esp in a big global player like the USA.
@@deepfreezevideoLooking it up, Frank is credited as having used several variants on the same quote. The one I used was one of those variants. The one you mentioned that specifies "military-industrial complex" also has several variants. This is true for most quotes with their creators deviating from the original, those documenting/recording the original and altering it along the way, and so on. I appreciate your pedantic compulsion to correct the incorrect because I certainly don't want to waste any more of my time on such trivialities.
@damianraver We can use a very old problem to understand why. It used to be that towns had to have walls. Just to keep raiders out and allow a defense. After a town has had peace and prosperity for a very long time, they tended to tear down the walls for building material. It's all fine as long as you don't get attacked. We get thinking the good times last forever. They don't and the walls that protected the town are gone.
As someone who is a left-leaning American, it is very humbling hearing your opinion and perspective, especially right now. I might not agree with you both on everything politically, but I respect your points and where you guys come from. Thank you for the down-to-earth content and viewpoints you guys bring every week!
Winston, you're comparing south Africa to America. We expect better from our government. We're a first world nation, we don't want to limit the meritocracy, that's how we instill what you like about America.
@@XBoxwolf "less corrupt" but still corrupt and able to fall into tyranny as any late-stage decadent democracy inevitably will, and the people are utterly unprepared to resist having surrendered their power to do so long ago. A people unable to force the government to leave them alone will not be left alone forever, one day a tyrant always rises and a disarmed people is helpless to resist.
In California, the Assembly is the lower house of the state legislature, analogous to the House of Representatives role in the US Legislature. Andrew Kotyuk is the Republican candidate for an Assembly district in Merced County. Measures such as A or B are proposed county level laws / bond authorizations which require voter approval. You would need to have access to the Merced County webpages to figure out what they are specifically this year. Statewide voter initiatives are the Propositions, which are numbered, never lettered. Everything from modifying the California constitution to bond issue authorizations to tax law changes end up in them.
Lol, California trying direct democracy via referendums. That stuff only leads to chaos, look at the tyranny of the majority in France. They flip flop the direction of the wind each election
I appreciate your point of view on younger generations. I'm only 16 years old and I know both of you guys are way more wiser and experienced in many ways so I am not here to really trash or disregard your opinion about the perspective of younger people. I do however disagree with the point that younger people just expect everything to be handed to them for free. It's true that the younger generations today have a grimmer future than what you guys had. The effects of the booming human population on planet Earth does not seem promising and the economy around the globe (maybe besides China, India, and select few) such as the U.S., Japan, and the EU are not booming as much anymore. The reality is that the environment and economy of the U.S. doesn't seem as promising as it seemed like decades ago. Today's research thinks that if the world continues producing and manufacturing at the same rate they did decades before, then the Earth will not be able to sustain itself for long. It does seem like younger people are privileged and bitch about everything but the truth is that things need to change fundamentally. Old habits and behaviors simply can't continue. It seems like Americans are complaining so much but the harsh reality struck us way too late and change needs to happen ASAP. sorry for the crappy grammar, I just put my ideas into sentences lol
work hard, ask people that you see who are successful for advice, be thrifty in your early years, be dedicated and focused on what you are doing. In any economy, no matter the size, "climbing" the ladder to the very top is only achieved by a few. It is always a pyramid, always has been, even for previous generations. From what you wrote, from your sincere position, I am sure you will go far in life with work ethic, reliability, consistency, and an attitude that you will overcome obstacles not be victim to them. My biggest piece of advice, my friend, is be thrifty early, save your money, do NOT fall for the motto "live my best life now" and spend every dollar you earn. The reason is, is because years down the road, you will be in a financial place to make any decision you need to if you save in your early years. Here's to a bright future for you, I am rooting for you.
I was talking about this topic (changing views) with someone the other day. Her daughter visited California from China and came back with a drastically different view than she had when she left. Course, this is a girl who went with an OPEN mind.
@@Cyrusaur She found out that what she'd been told about the US and it's system was wrong, and that it was NOT terrible. (accidentally pressed send early) She also discovered that Personal responsibilty, rather than group control, was good.
Fascism is a better fit for the CCP. In my opinion the key characterisation of a fascist system is the veneer of private property - which there is to a degree in China. The government gets into bed with a handful of conglomerates and ends up centrally planning most of the economy. It's exactly what is happening in China.
Except Fascism is a left wing ideology and is closer to socialism than capitalism due to centralized control of economy. Mussolini was also a socialist...
Because fascism *is* 'left-wing', Fascism only became 'right-wing' due to Soviet cold war propaganda, as sharing an ideology with the Nazi's (National Socialists) was bad publicity.
This video was clearly filmed several months ago, they don't mention at all how the US economic system is essentially an oligopoly for most sectors, and they are missing a huge swath of differences between the left and right. A disappointing take overall.
At 9:13, I absolutely hate it when Winston says this about America. Of course people are going to complain more about things that may seem insignificant to you or other people that come from worse circumstances. Your wants and needs are relative to the environment you grow up in. If you can barely put food on the table and there are no jobs in your country, of course you are going to complain about that. If your shelter and foods needs are met (as it is for most Americans), you will complain more about smaller things, to make society a better place. Yes, I can agree that people very picky sometimes such as the SJWs and the people who play heavily into identity politics, but by and large, these small complaints are what improve society as a whole.
I agree. He's way over-generalizing Americans. They fear-monger about Bernie Sanders for 10 minutes and then proceed to complain about the insane cost of health care, which is Bernie's #1 issue! I'm sure things can seem great when you're riding your motorcycle through California. But it's not as great when you're one of the ~500,000 medical bankruptcies a year, or you have your kids have permanent brain-damage because you had lead in your drinking water. People are right to complain about those things, and it doesn't make them spoiled.
What strikes me as strange, is that you still consider the "left" vs. "right" in the US. e.g. In China it seems relatively simple - you're either for the government (say making some high-value good and dutifully exporting it world-wide for dollars) or against it (say propagating falun gong or mentioning uighurs) - you're on-side, or you're off. The US, and most western democracies, are different as you can be "too far" in either extreme. You could use the shed out the back of your house to tweak your weapon to be fully-automatic, or grow a pile of pot. Notionally these actions are labelled right or left - but reality is that your technical law-breaking slots into particular movements of law-breaking, with associated political groups. Not saying anything is right/wrong - but the China difference is that there don't seem to be any structures/groups that you can join and will lobby on your behalf. But as I type this, almost seems insane to say that what China is lacking is lobbyists..
I mean, the US spends the most per capita in the world on healthcare, and you STILL got to pay for even basic necessities, so you might as well have something out of that money
You aren't even capable of explaining what you just said, or how the healthcare works, or what the healthcare industry is and where it comes from (hint it wasn't created by the government). And then you couldn't explain what a libertarian IS (even though C-milk stated its basic premise right after). But you come out here just saying words, name calling.."socialized medicine"...like you just debunked him on something. Fact, you didn't. And you people vote and think you're smart. *sigh*
A few of my thoughts - hard work isnt enough in america, there is a large amount of success based on the previous generations' success, with race and gender definitely being factors. - China is left leaning politically, but is also both heavily state capitalist and culturally right leaning (see censored media bc "lewd") - College makes sense, as there is a verifiable aspect/background/authority to your claims of knowledge - with more technical courses often requiring actual manipulation of any hardware necessary for a task. Knowing by sight is completely different than knowing by practice, hence why doctors have to go through such rigorous work in med school. - Even within America's right vs left conflict/argument, there is also authoritarian vs libertarian conflict within each of the two parties. And even more outside that, specifically for the GOP, there are those that back trump vs those heavily opposed to him. - People complain about the small things because if small things are brushed to the side, they can cause a snowball effect. Also, you have to have the skill to complain about the small things in order to have the skill to conquer the hard things - The younger generations do not want everything on a plate, they hold a lot of resentment to how older generations have treated the environment, as well as the opportunities. The younger generations have to work and pay exponentially more for the same results, which is nigh impossible in many cases.
I mean, majority of people that do upkeep and construct a nuke facility only have a highschool degree. However it's only union workers that have the most strictest rules and regulations on the planet for doing the job.
Honestly for me personally I studied thermonuclear physics and engineering in college, I learned thermonuclear engineering from TH-cam, but thats not to say we don't need standards.
@@stephenguthrie3889 I don't know about in the U.S but in Canada, there are licensed engineers who do most of the upkeep I mean they don't pour the concrete but they tell them what and where to do it lol ex-girlfriend worked at a plant in Ontario but I guess your right most of the physical labor is high schooler
Moon Light Films I would say it’d not only standards but also the need for reliable sources. I mean yes can find explanations for pretty much any scientific field but I guess you chose what to learn based on your college requirements. You still need professors, students, phd students etc that do research. People constructing the power plant may not have a high degree, but the people making to instructions/blueprints with the exact requirements have. There are levels in the working industry and every level is important but have a different function. People having a degree is one of them. Depending on the study laboratory or field work is also an important aspect of learning skills that cannot be experienced through the internet, books etc.
John Doe If the US falls then we won’t have to put up with a self righteous weirdo calling everyone a racist because they dared to say they like black coffee. But daz rayuzzizd. Good job with destroying the internet, yank.
Yes, Winston, we are spoiled and the rest of the world wishes it were as spoiled as we are. That is why they wish to come here, including you. We have it so good in part because Americans do not settle for good enough. Our complaints tell government and businesses they need to do better. We demand improvement and do not settle for the status quo.
I love hearing your perspectives from having lived in different countries for so long and observing US politics. Also it is so respectable how sometimes you guys don’t agree on everything, but obviously you’re still best friends. Like, imagine that! Wow everyone doesn’t have to agree with all my beliefs and we can still respect each other and have conversations about it
@@jetsetradio7715 Conservatives are whining about wearing masks and a bunch of other conspiracy theories. The healthcare and college situation are basic human rights that basically every successful and stable country besides the US guarantees to its citizen.
@@dougstubbs9637 i think growing up their it must have been easy while with his parent's it only recently went to shit. before this period south africa was alway's viewed as a tourist location and one of the wealthiest places on the planet.
I don't get how you got from Sanders call for a Scandinavian style reform to a Chinese communist government? Especially when his top concerns are affordability and access to healthcare, and a jobs program which would entail significant infrastructure upgrades and repair. Which were both two major topics in your video
Winston: "Americans are incredibly spoilt ... like a spoilt child ...". They have some bright minds, but it is true. Example: Decades ago we already learned in school that an American needs as much energy as 180 Africans. It did not change. Island in Thailand, Bungalows: Americans let the A/C run all day long even though they are outside. Electricity is generated by Diesel generators ... Burma: American leaves the windows of his room open all day long while absent , A/C running. In school we also learned that an American does not open the blinds but rather would turn on the light in the middle of the day. This sounded really sick to us - but it turned out to be true. Same topic: It is too hot in winter. Americans don't reduce the heater but switch on the A/C. They need more education.
@@Sagittarius-A-Star Yeah like some these I was like 'Eek I actually don't see anything too wrong with that' but when I thought about it more. Its definitely wasteful.
I've got to agree with Winston about university. In many fields, some direct experience (= problem solving + autonomous and inductive studies) teaches more than an entire course at the university. That's what i've learned after years spent (wasted, i should say) attending engineering. University is only useful to certify a minimum level of quality, which is good to reassure employers.
I feel like engineering is one of the few examples where this isn’t the case. Civil engineering for example surely you in the US would have to go to University to be accredited with designing bridges etc right?
@@jackgibbons6013 I promise you that passing engineering exams does not mean being able to build a bridge. It means having a minimum level of knowledge, which however is not enough for building a bridge in the real world. How many newly graduated you see at the head of a big project? ...they always start at the bottom with secondary tasks, and they're required to accumulate years of experience anyway before maybe handling a project. Of course, being graduated certifies the minimum standard i was talking about, which is reassuring. As an aerodynamicist, i use about 20% of what i learnt at university, and i'm not the exception. I could have learned such things only and spared myself years of useless studies. I consider myself a good aerodynamicist, and that's thanks to the personal projects i did on my own to accumulate experience, not university.
Nobody is romanticizing authoritarianism, people are looking back to FDR and the days when creating functional infrastructure was possible. Leaving the well-being of society in the hands of corporate power produces an unstable, inefficient society with an enormous wealth gap. America’s health care system is a great example of this. Things that are absolutely essential to the public good (like transportation infrastructure, basic utilities, healthcare) should be controlled by the public.
I thought the same thing at first but was greatly pleased to see that C-milk is still down to earth and doesn't have his head up his ass. It's so easy to jump on the "orange man bad" bandwagon, it's always so heartening to see other people who can think for themselves.
@@beph13 Well Trump is still the closest towards authoritarian in the last 50 years and probably one of the worst 10 presidents ever. Maybe even one of the worst 5.
@@beph13 If you think that Trump or even Republicans are for less government you are deceiving yourself. Sure it might be for things that would actually help the people like education, healthcare, regulations, environmental protection etc. When it comes to policing, surveillance and military they are very much against less government which are all important tools for an authoritarian president to keep his power when the people in time will try and take back that power. The language the president is using is also a part of authoritarianism. A strong leader going after his opponents without any actual evidence or base to go on is a clear sign of authoritarianism. That is precisley what Trump is doing.
@@Dragonited Do you have any evidence for anything above? Sure, he is protectionist in economic policy and foreign policy, but how is that authoritarian? It's rather just not completely libertarian. But for matters like free speech, he's been excellent: Silicon Valley has received ridiculous amounts in subsidies so they have no right to censor people who paid those subsidies in taxes. Comparatively the Democrats want to control literally every aspect of your life down to what you eat, say, think, buy, how you vote, how you express yourself etc. Sure, he's not a true libertarian but he's much better than any Democrat.
I work for Alberta Health Services. I'm using school to prep for a higher paying role that requires more knowledge. You can only go so far without it. I should mention that its harder for people to trust me for more complex roles with my blindness. I have bi-latteral optic nerve hypoplasia.
I think for once you guys are actually a little under educated on some of the more important issues in America, although if you've been watching the American media you're perspective makes alot more sense. I'de love to give you guys a different perspective on what's going on :D
the thing is, economically speaking, ALL communist country swing right hard after dissolution of the Soviet Union. The left economical policy is based on heavily regulated economy, while the right is more liberal (ironic) - or less to no regulated (think US before Teddy Roosevelt). The communist (or ultra radical left in a sense) is based on no private economy (all planned), but it was disbanded in the 90s. So when the only all encompassing directive (banned private ownership) is gone, there is no more regulation, hence a hard ass swing from left to right economic. But the liberal vs authoritarian is not a left right politic thing: there are left wing authoritarian (communist countries), right wing authoritarian (Middle east; or hell, nazi - I'll not capitalize those bastards), left wing liberal (Northern European and European heading to in general) and right wing liberal (the US, at least until recently). Most Asian and European countries are centrist both economic and gov style (and it's great too)
Right and Left are relative terms and change depending on the circumstances. In 1776, Thomas Jefferson would have been an extreme leftist, wanting to get rid of monarchy and all. In 2020 he'd be "far right" with exactly the same views on natural rights, individual liberty, and the limited role of government. Liberal and conservative are much the same way -- thus a "right-wing conservative" in Europe is absolutely nothing like a "right-wing conservative" in the US. Sadly, the American "left-wing liberal" definition has moved quickly within the last 15 years to fairly well match the European definition.
@@antaine1916 i think American Left still quite some way away from Western European Left, let alone Nordic Left... Frankly, US Left is pretty much right everywhere else.
Lawyers, doctors, and teachers are jobs that require "education" for the sake of requiring education. A fresh grad doctor most likely inferior to an experienced nurse, just like fresh grad lawyers are probably inferior to veteran courthouse clerk. They won't allow nurse to be physician, or clerk be a lawyer because they want to protect their own privilege. A century ago, a mere clerk may one day become a lawyer by become an apprentice to a lawyer, and learn the job helping his "master". When the master confident enough with his apprentice's knowledge and skill, he could send his apprentice to do the test and to get his own license as lawyer. Experience is (and always will be) the best teacher.
@@ihl0700677525 Doctors and nurses are not inferior or superior to each other, they have different jobs, a doctor will diagnose an illness while a nurse will take care of the patient while he's sick. And they both have to go to school to become one. A courthouse clerk might know the procedure in that particular court, but he doesn't know the law, take him out of that area, and send him to a civil or penal court or ask him to write a contract and he's going to be out of his area of expertise, a recent grad lawyer, might not be the best at any of it, but he will find his way in each if needed.
@@ihl0700677525 First, I guess you don't know about NPRN's or Doctor of NURSING who can practice independently. Second Doctors technically have more room to grow than nurses. An experienced Doctor is far superior than experienced Nurse.
@@Xergecuz That's just silly excuse. Clerk could very well "know" the law, and nurse know various symptoms and how to treat various disease. Think about it: The key is not about their role in their current job, but whether the clerk or the nurse could pass the test to be a lawyer or physician or not. Meaning whether they have the actual skill and knowledge necessary, which medical and law school are *NOT* the only places they can get it from. They could very well get their knowledge from *TH-cam videos,* and so what? If they pass the test, they should get the license.
I recommend you guy go watch the new Veritasium video on success. You were successful as English teachers in China because you worn born in native English speaking countries. Your successful on TH-cam because of the growing animosity between China and the US. You "working your ass off" doesn't matter nearly as much as you think it does.
Ross N nah, their channels got popular before that. But they were definitely in the right place at the right time with the right skills. I love the night time B roll, especially with wet streets and neon lights. I love all the interesting places and people they found. It helped that they knew computers, knew how to do photography, knew two languages (+ Afrikaans/Finnish but that’s not really relevant), and knew how to talk to people. It helped that quality info about China was so scarce. They also worked their asses off.
@@peterfireflylund They left their own countries to each English. "Knew computers" sounds like something over 40 says. Anyone can learn how to edit videos now, even TH-cam has a built in editor. They can have money to strap on expensive cameras that most Americans and Chinese both would be envious of and cannot afford. Most of the world speaks more than one language, that exists only as a negative stereotype against Americans. When in fact most Americans also speak Spanish, nevermind a swath of others who learn in school or the vast number of refugees we take in. The fact is if you're lost coming out of college or not doing anything with your life, teaching English abroad is a very easy option and especially China is incredibly easy to get into. It's literally one of the lowest bar things you can do since you don't need any skills, you don't need to speak Chinese, they just started asking TESOL or similar certificates like six months ago, it's literally a white monkey job to make the school look more prestigous than it is. There are several sites you can join now to teach English to Chinese kids from your home and before it got flooded with lost people that needed jobs in America, then China demanded at least a certificate which you buy for as cheap as $20 from Groupon. They were able to learn by immersion. You learn a language the fastest when you're dropped off and forced to live in a place where that's all they speak and read. I'm sure it took hard work to learn Chinese still, but Winston has even admitted despite being homeless for a small time, he admitted it is easier to climb the socio-economic ladder in China -- you can go from homeless to getting a job and a house, you can't do that in America as easily. There is tons of quality info about China that's objective, you just agree with their opinions and like them. Check your biases, they look some of the lowest work lost people take if they're willing to travel especially right out of college where C-Milk was able to learn more Chinese which apparently Winston is against. Someone who blows through his money and has to live on the streets of a developing country at that is not someone reliable to take advice from. He might have learned a lot about China but he literally failed the easiest way to get out of his country and take an easy job that paid while you can still have a community of other expats teaching English at the school. Imagine going to teach English and all you blow all your money in a developed country like Korea or Japan, it'd be much harder and they'd be forced to find enough money from their parents to fly them home and admit to failure. They literally jumped the lowest hurdle someone can do jobwise if you want to leave your home country and make a modest sum of money, especially in China, a poor country where the RMB to USD conversion will benefit you unlike Japan or Korea where others go to teach English and do the same white monkey jobs that have parlayed them into vlogging.
South Africa isn't a native English speaking country, Survivorship bias is a thing, but you know nothing about their lives, so your explanations for their success are completely speculative.
In most well funcioning countries the majority are center left or center right. The fringes of the spectrum on bouth sides have authoritarian lenings. Inmany EU countries centre left partie often ruled succesfully in coalition with centre right parties. It’s funny how bouth extreme left wing communists and extreme right wing nationalists have so many similarities and often colaborate and suport each other in the real world. Dar left is as much authoritarian nationalist, conservative when it commes to individual freadoms as far right parties. Putin, suports Lukashenko and Maduro (communists) and the National Front in France, Golden Dawn in Grece, and multiple other nationalist fringe parties and groups in the EU. The most frightning this is they also suported Trump and the different fringe elements that constituted his suport base. What i have seen lately is that the fringe spectrums of the political spectrum are trying to radicalise the centrists and „make them choose sides” aka either you support all left wingers or all right wingers instead of all sane centrists. The best functioning societys ware built on a dialogue and compromise between centre left and centre right parties. These coalitions kept the fring radicals on the outskirts of politics. Funny enough when the centre rightvand centre left was uniting aroud this idea of centrism the radical fringe elemnents on bouth sides of the political spectrum united aroud what they had in common, authoritarianism, conservatism, feudalism, oligarchism, police state, strong brutal leadership, harsh punishment ect. Thats howbliberal democracy clashed with nationalist feudal oligarchic model. That said i think it’s ok to be right or left wing within the centrist, liberal democratic framework. The radical elements always build their plicy around us vs them. One truth one party. Loyalty and obediance to this one person one party. Ends justify the means because we are always tight and they are always wrong. All even slightest discontent shiuld be brought down as quickly as possible. People have to be kept in line with propaganda and tjose that question it should be threttened, fined, jailed, tortureed and those that constantly undermind our system, show it or us in a bad light should be murderred in such as way that it will make others think twise about vocing and or acting on their discontent. Al you have to do in order do understand how autocricies on bouth sides of the political spectrum are basically two sides of the same coin is how you can replace left or right wing authocratic regimes as us and their political oponents as them. The important thing to notice is that such regimes in most cases try and eliminate the centre right and center left and their fringe couterparts on the other side of the political spectrum usually join them by acknowlaging many shared values.
Growing up I was more liberal but somehow in the last 25 years the goals posts have been moved and somehow I've become a right wing nut job from an external perspective. I think it more resembles libertarian nowadays.
You have some bad takes here Cmilk. Yes you worked your ass off but you were also lucky. Lucky you didn't fall ill and racked up huge medical bills. Lucky to be born with the intelligence and capacity to create this success. Not everyone can be an entrepreneur' and not everyone who 'just works harder' gets to be rich. There's plenty of people out here working 3 jobs, struggling to get by and feed their kids. Don't forget Europe exists. Our social systems work and yet we enjoy freedom. I'd even argue we live more free, because we aren't subject to insurance companies extorting us and education indebting us. Amongst other things.
Not to mention, lucky to be a white dude. I mentioned this in a different comment, but this video comes off especially tone-deaf in light of current civil rights violations and race conflicts going on in the US. This idea that the US is, or ever truly was a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" country has been proven false again and again. Surely there are many countries facing great political and economic resistance, but it's statistically proven over generations that the vast majority of people in the middle and lower class of the US never move up, and I guarantee you it isn't for lack of effort. One man's experience is far from a statistical trend.
@@Noah-cv4zo WHY ARE YOU LYING? Why are so many third worlders scrambling to get in to the US? Are you saying it's sooooo racist in the US, but all the non-whites trying to get in are too dumb to know that? Or maybe they know that it IS the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" kind of country and it doesn't matter as much what others think of you in the US since you'll succeed if you work hard? And if the USA is so waaaaaacist, why is it one of countries with the highest percentage of its population that are foreign-born (and these days mostly non-white)? Name ONE non-white-majority country that admits as high a number number of immigrants that are racially/ethnically different than its native-born citizens as the USA, Canada, UK... your worldview seems to be devoid of facts about planet Earth.
TTD racist with a good economy is still way better than no economy which is why people would want to move from the third world to the US. So you could be black and from Uganda or something and it’d still be way better moving to the US. But just because this is true doesn’t mean that the states have a few issues regarding racism that would be better if they were worked out. My point is, is that people moving from the third world to the US is not really a valid defence for saying the US doesn’t have a few race issues to sort out.
Yeah I totally agree, the freedom to go out as a freelancer and not have to deal with healthcare stuff / costs is a huge deal. And I would argue a big anti competitive thing. If major companies are the ones that give you the ability to have healthcare then it really discourages small business competition
The good thing with free speech and protest, even when it gets monotonous and annoying to listen to, is that at least no matter who wins the elections they can't afford the chance to be complacent in their ideology and in their programs. Most if not all ideas carried to the extreme lead to a clusterfuck. What seems to be holding it all together - despite some major issues (environment, health, economics) - is the effort of countless nameless practical and self-critical ordinary people working on most issues. The problem is that these same characteristics aren't very beneficial for said individuals in political arenas filled with narcissists and opportunists. It seems to me that all average sane citizens need to be less complacent and braver in challenging the loonies and working on the greater issues. I don't agree you guys on everything, but you are definitely doing this last part. Keep up the good work!
all I hear is sanders this and sanders that new for you: sanders is not the democrat candidate, no mention of Biden in this video finally winston came out as a trumper, we knew it for a while... "they keep attacking trump" trump has been insulting everyone since he launch his candidacy, what did he expect? kisses and hugs?
I think Winston has seen collectivist evil in both SA and China and knows Trump fights it and is relentless and laughs in its face. The media hates Trump and Winston likes seeing Trump triumph regardless. I'm betting Biden, if prez, would make nice with China to show how diplomatic he is compared to Trump. That would be a mistake.
Yes the roads are bad in other countries but come and check them out in Michigan our current governor ran on the statement just fix the damn roads and she won and they're not fixed is corruption for you we pay for the roads at the pump so where did the money go
You guys should cover Yuri Bezmenov, he covered the influence of Russian communist influence in the west. I would like to see you guys connect what he said and how China uses soft power propaganda in the west
For Winston's comment on universities or colleges there is a use for them in terms of enforcing standards for the field you're doing. You mentioned the health care system and just imagine if you have to get heart surgery with your doctor that was taught through youtube, wouldn't that make you question his credentials? Most of the issues is that most of the old systems have not been updated to fit in the present. Either we help improve the system or we vote who would improve the system in North America which most choose to just vote.
He wasn't criticizing education that's applicable but the inflation of degrees and jobs that "requires a degree" any degree even basket weaving/liberal arts just for the sake of it almost as a vanity. This is because universities in many cases have become scams churning out useless degrees to people that ends up under a mountain of debt jobless. But proper formal training in a real field like Medicine or Law to practice in those fields or do research that's a whole different ball game ,but is often conflated by people because degrees with titles have become vastly inflated, To use the SARS-CoV-2 situation as an example: even someone that graduated last in med school and never went into practice or does walk ins two times a week can call himself "doctor" and get TV interviews and undermine experienced physicians and scientists with real experience and muddy the waters .
I think what they're both missing here is twofold: 1. University education raises the value of your workforce as a country. The more highly educated individuals your nation has, the more high level and high paying service, entrepreneurial, and technology fields your citizens can fill, generating greater tax revenue, raising gdp and allowing more people to explore roles they are actually interested in, be that doctor, designer, lab tech, IT specialist, plumber, shop salesperson, etc. 2. Universities teach more than your major alone. They teach you history so as to better understand politics, diverse populations and cultures (both abroad and domestic). They offer the opportunity to learn foreign languages so you can travel and/or move abroad. They expose you to other fields that you might find interesting and may change the course of your career. Additionally, they offer connections and networks which can help you throughout your life. Certainly, you can get these elsewhere, but most people who don't go to college also don't do any of this, and as a result, it fosters a sense of resentment and self-absorption (with nothing to compare your experience to, you will struggle to distinguish complex issues) It all is rather funny that C-Milk, someone who was once a "college professor" should say that university is dumb. That's like if I watched a video on youtube on how to fix my toilet, then called all plumbers idiots because their job could be done for free. But in summation: Does everyone NEED a degree? -No Is society worse for all the people who get a degree? -No Is the higher education system in the US problematic and needlessly overpriced? -Definitely Does that mean getting a generic degree is "stupid" or pointless? -Definitely not Should some people consider other options -Sure! Trade schools are a great option. There's also nothing wrong with working in the service sector. Bootcamps for IT are also possible (but consider the fact that most IT positions require a BA degree). Also definitely do your research before jumping headfirst into a niche or low-paying college degree. Know the market and consider your alternatives first.
Becoming a doctor could be done more efficiently through direct apprenticeships rather than wasting 8+ years (and hundreds of thousands of dollars) in school learning a lot of irrelevant information.
I have another question. If you have a heart transplant, do you want to have the surgery in US or somewhere that has “free” healthcare or cheap healthcare?
Not gonna lie but this one was difficult to watch. It's very obvious that you both have been outside the US for a while as many of your talking points are coming straight from the media. There may be some "special snowflakes" that get mad at the slightest provocation and others who just want free handouts from the government but they are by far the minority. In my experience, the vast majority of people simply want a government that affords then the opportunity to work their ass off and make a comfortable life for themselves. As it is now, they're still working their ass off but are falling further and further behind. They look around and see the insane heathcare costs, over-inflated tuition, unaffordable housing, and people at the top who are racing away with all of the money and it makes sense why politicians like Bernie Sanders would apeal to them. It's not about wanting an authoritarian government as you put it. It's about wanting a government that will help them meet their basic needs. A government for the people, not for the corporations.
The USA is a good place not because we're entitled and should be happy with what we have, but because we won't stop trying to improve on it. If the problems are minor ones in the margins, then go after them. Never stop trying to improve and make sure the laws are obeyed, changed, or gotten rid of to suit what we need. That is how it got to be so good in the first place.
It's not that they want things habdes to them they want to know that working hard will get you somewhere. Some of us have watched our parents, both working hard, go from middle class to poor. What are we working for then?
@DonCervantes hahaha. Sure thing. That's why the most liberal market places do have a very low median salary but a high average GDP per capita right? I agree that liberation does have it benefits but the biggest downturn is the non existent equality for poor born civilians. If the us wouldn't spend as much money on "defence" you all would have healthcare and a much better social security.
@DonCervantes "GDP refers to the money the government takes from its people" No it doesn't. GDP stands for Gross Domestic Product. It has nothing to do with taxes
Mister Trousers actually several... having travelled around myself, his depiction of spoiled Americans is priceless. I’m so much MORE grateful to be lower middle class in the USA than I was before I wandered.
I expect the "I work hard you don't and that's why I have money and you don't" argument from a sixty-year-old. Wow. Well guys I went to college (worked real hard there) I'm trilingual (there was a bit of effort involved in that as well) I have a full-time teaching job (bye bye free time) and I can't afford to rent an apartment anywhere in the city. I actually define privilege as "when working hard works".
Exactly. Winston is a locust that exploits the countries until his privilege runs out, then blames the government. After a while, he WILL blame California, the regulations, or someone else when he can't find success here. He doesn't think he has privilege. He's just woefully ignorant. Maybe this is why people should go to college.
I think you're undervaluing degrees Winston. No matter how many places I applied, I got no calls, no emails, and no interviews from proper careers. Even most retail and fast food places rejected me. After I got my degree, at least 1/4 of employers I applied to were interested and others at least responded to reject me.
I'm one of those white Americans that's all in for Bernie Sanders' type of super progressive government. I don't know much about Libertarians and have judged them in the past but because you C-Milk feel strongly about it, I'll look into it. You're very intelligent and I often agree with a lot of things you say and believe so I think it's worth researching. I will say it's kind of odd to say you're a Libertarian in one breath and then say you dislike the health care industry we have as entrepreneurs it's hard to find insurance. The progressive movement is all about providing free healthcare to all but I believe since Libertarians dislike big government, they'd be against this wouldn't they? Just saying.
I don't think "screw universities" is the right philosophy, to be frankly honest. Whilst I don't think it is for everyone, I've told friends straight out that they aren't meant for university when they've felt pressure to go, and for some fields entirely unnecessary blundering that holds people back (Seriously, a degree for art, a topic of subjective opinion?). On the contrary, there are a lot of subjects and topics that greatly benefit from university level education.
Listening to someone is different from being indoctrinated by someone. You have all the right to disagree, but to think your opposition shouldn't be heard... Well I have bad news for you
@Josh Mullard If by 'other countries' you mean western europe. The rest of the world's right wing parties are far more conservative than republicans. Have you looked at Asia? Strongman leaders are the default, and people like it.
Not to mention the entire Middle East. And Africa. And South America. Economically, I guess you could call them more left wing, but socially, they're _way_ more right wing.
I started watching this channel living the US and thinking the Chinese views were so exotic. Fast forward 7 or so years, and I've been in Japan for ages. It's like coming full circle seeing the US landscape now. Beautiful. Thanks for continuing to do what you do even though you couldn't stay in China. SerpentZA btw has a very good view on the mindset of the US as well. Everyone should count their blessings every once in a while instead of feeling like a victim of the system!
They're just typical Western douchebags that exercise all the privileges of being a white Westerner, exploit other cultures for TH-cam sub$cribers, and then blame government when that privilege is used up. This is where their channel is headed. Toward the Ben Shapiro/Jordon Peterson direction. The perfect example of the obnoxious entitled Western tourist.
I like the fact in the US, the left and right and whatever are arguing all the time. We are always looking to improve, change the ways we do things. Americans care very much about fairness. So they are working hard to achieve that. The hard part is how we can agree on what's fair. Not easy. Let's keep arguing and learn to compromise.
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ADVChina you didn’t say where you are driving around today! Just hanging out in Cali?
Edit: Oh, I see you are out in Hemet. Did you gentlemen enjoy your time there? It seems like it was a nice overcast day at least.
well 1. when you guys were in china it felt like you liked the liberal view on things you could do almost what you want. 2. in usa you feel conservative. or more like normally moral people
"Trevor's always laying the mack down on me." - Ana Kasparian/The Young Turks
It is kind of cute when they begin to understand that China is in no shape or form socialist haha. It is like calling the British empire socialist. I mean the government was large and powerful under the British empire duuuhhhh.
Some people have such bad understanding of what capitalism is so that they can't see pure early stage capitalism if it was beating them to death.
Then again, the Americans did have their democracy handed to them on a plate while the rest of world hade to have class struggle to gain democracy.
100% of Americans think 50% of Americans hold crazy, extremest views on politics
Objectively, many Trump supporters do hold crazy and extreme views. Qanon anyone?
@@jeep1077 Do you really think all Trump supporters believe in that. That's like saying all Biden supporters support the riots and destruction of small businesses.
@@giansantiago9136 I wrote "many" not "all". Reading comprehension is your friend.
ScorpionLegos im not saying I believe in Q, but could explain how that is extremist, and if so, could explain how it is bad? Extremism on the left looks like riots and newspeak. What’s the violent aspect of Q?
@@silentt2143 I haven't been able to get any clear answers about what Q believes but the one thing that keeps coming up is that the main stream media is very biased towards the left. One trick to test for bias is to look at the photos they hold in view. If one candidate looks dignified and friendly and the other looks like a scary idiot than the media supports the better photo.
If people in the US didn't complain about "small things", then the "small" potholes would be allowed to become the bigger "potholes" that you've pointed out other countries have.
That's a good point. High standards and expectations are what separates the Western world from somewhere like China, where people don't question or complain about things that are a concern or nuisance.
Having a high expectation for different services, products or daily life is a result of living in a high functioning society. Sure it can be annoying having Karen's around, but they and people like them essentially keep our society in check so that we can ensure our society functions at a high quality and level of standard
@@Mattmon777 Reminds me of Japan politician who was crying and apologizing on TV because he took too much money from rich and power donors. In the US that corruption is praised.
Big things are made up from small ones - everything from politics to being polite, the little things count.
SirLGM re: straws, it may seem like those decisions are coming at the expense of bigger stuff, but really it seems like the smaller stuff is all that can get done because the bigger stuff is completely blocked by vested interests. Lobbyists for banks, pharma, telco, media, tech, nra, mining, etc lock in their advantage through political corruption, blocking progress on issues that matter.
@Klaa2 have a look at drinking water in flint michigan, its undrinkable there.....
Winston to your point about Americans complaining about small things little potholes ect.
The reason why we complain is we pay 💰 big fat sums to make the place 👍 nice but we constantly feel like we are being fleeced.
Project are all over budget and behind schedule. Example :The big dig or commuter trains in California and Hawaii
Not roads but you get the point.
We have massive waste fraud and abuse,and the people in the government just complain they need more money never to fix how the money was spent to begin with.
So true. Here in California, we don't have a revenue problem. We have a spending problem. Actually we now have a revenue problem because the California Democrats have shut down the economy for so long due to Covid-19, that the tax received by the state is very low. They did it to us and to themselves!
Spode Boy I agree but to be more precise
It’s silly laws that say for example a contract must go to a minority owned business.
On its face that might seem reasonable.
However one example I am aware off
Involved the purchase of building materials.
But said business owned by a minority simply bought the materials from home depot and sold it to our state.
It’s my assertion that is where the waste is.
A law that says you must waste money.
Turning state purchases into some kind of social justice experiment means that when you think they are building something they are also effectively handing out cash.
Don’t forget all the paperwork and waiting for approval (delays)
Another example is after Hurricane Katrina they needed
to remove all of the junk cars
Louisiana paid somebody to remove the cars
There was a contractor who was offering to pay the state for the scrap value of the cars plus remove them at no charge.
What do think they did?
@@Spodeboy LOL "The tax received by the state is very low"? The California governor just announced they have a $97.5 billion budget surplus, what planet are you living on?
@@steviewonderisnotblind5833 This is the planet I live on a year later. It wasn't that way a year ago.
I’ve heard that style of complaint from foreigners “you’ve got it so good, you’re complaining about small stuff”.. are we meant to accept increased corruption, loss of freedom, worse services, etc than prior generations?
well... they have a point. Often times we certainly complain about things that are not important, then demand change because we are whiny, then a slew of unattended consequences happen. We all too often throw the baby out with the bath water. To demand better is good, but I often find those who complain are also the least to pitch in, and often complain of things they want for themselves, not what is better for everyone. I would argue a lot of our complaining about stupid stuff, has in fact, led to increased corruption, loss of freedom, and worse services than prior generation. We need to find a balance somewhere in there.
They sound clueless like they woke up in another planet. It's only great because people have free speech. What a limited understanding as to why the US became a leading nation. It's the people striving for equality. But Winston is right about universities.
Complaining about the little things - that's how Americans try to raise or at least maintain their living standards. If no one speaks up, nothing will get done. It's a free and vocal society that tries to keep the government on their toes and under threat of replacing responsible parties during elections. That's the beauty of democracy.
im with you bro. if you see a problem speak out about it, dont stay quiet about it.
@@JH-qy7zw corruption does not develop over a 3-8 year period man it is a genrational issue, it devolps into the system if allowed to swell long enough like how all of the ccp and people who work inside it are systematicly corrupt because the actual system encoruges and support it. i can say much much more but simply put you are wrong. if there is an injustice speak out about it, if there is inequality then strive to equalize the playing field. i agree some problems being complained about are stupid but that just mean's we have to focus on the important one's instead.
C milk: I'm a libertarian, I like small governments.
Moves to China. 😂
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How you think he got to be a Libertarian?
Well yeah brah. Experiencing the world is a great thing to do, even if where you are at has some hellish issues.
@@chickenmonger123 completely agree. I just thought it was funny. I'm the same, I also purposely put my self in position where I'm uncomfortable and move to countries different from my home country.
@@marklittle8805 I got the feeling he already was a libertarian but I guess living a few years in China will solidify your libertarian view points :)
12:56 Honestly no idea what you're talking about. I'm French,but despite the high quantity of american/english content I watch,especially on the left,I never seen any political channel saying authoritarianism is good or that China is a good country.
IT professional here. I wish that IT still had the amount of opportunities that it used to for people without degrees who have good skills. Honestly, some of the best people in IT have either not had degrees or have had an unrelated degree (like they were a business major who got roped into running their company's servers because they knew a bit about computers and it just kind of took off for them). Sadly, degrees are being demanded more and more these days for IT, from what I understand, and I have personally seen that cause problems for someone with fantastic skills. A lot of IT people feel the same as I do - that skills are better than degrees and certificates every time - but there are usually other, non-IT people involved in these hiring processes.
Big Tech is hiring from outside of America so they can pay lower wages. It's ridiculous. No one here has a chance without a degree and with it, they don't want to pay. I don't like government intervention but they're become monopolies working against American workers and encouraging censorship.
Americans aren't welcome in American IT jobs anymore. So no one cares if you have a degree or not. You could turn in an empty application and it gets the same review as all the others - ignored.
I hate the expression IT professional. It's too general. If you are a programmer, companies are hiring programmers from US universities. Programmers working in other countries are not cost effective anymore. Too much babysitting required for the most basic tasks. If you're doing relatively unskilled IT work then your job is still threatened by random Indian companies, but things will change. There aren't any cheaper countries left that speak good English. Indian wages are growing, and the best workers are now doing IT for Indians so the Indian talent pool left for greedy American companies is shrinking.
@@MargieM10 They are monopolies because the government is constantly increasing protections for this corporations, like increasing copyright lengths, allowing more and more being patent, laws that protect DRM and abolishing laws that gave you the right to make a back up copy. Its currently impossible to write large software without violating many software patents.
I would class myself as basically all around computer themed person for me being able to make programs or upgrade whenever I want I can get jobs very easy me having a degree or not more less never comes up in a chats . All my friends who are making big money computer wise only like 5 of them have a degree out of so many thousands without degrees overall.
There's regional differences. In Texas, I was taught that there are two things you dont talk about at dinner or with company: politics and religion.
That's changing now, but it was the tradition in my area.
That's on the assumption that everyone already kinda *knows* your drunk uncle is in the KKK.
Yes! Doing this is a sure way to keep all your friends! Haha
My grandfather said the same, including money as well.. Baby boomers rebelled against their parents whenever possible and the US suffered as a result (what's wrong with trading w China, daddy-o?). Great video! German/Netherlands use of taxation to reduce the genie coefficient seems reasonable and provides great services/infrastructure. When you make more than $250k a year or so, you get taxed at a higher rate. So, including options etc, it seems there is a balance between incentive to be successful, and allowing opportunity for those without support or education advantages. Anyway, great vids, always, and best regards!
@@BoycottChinaa In America, we also have a progressive income tax. I cant remember where it tops out, I've never approached it.
@@rushiasingsfasola What the f are you on about? That wasnt even a reply was it? You just wanted to work the KKK into the conversation.
"Are we left-wing or right-wing?"
C-Milk: I'm more libertarian
MSM Translation: C-Milk is to the right of Genghis Khan.
to be fair, on the political compass, you can be either left or right wing. But yeah, I figured he meant right wing.
@@TA-kv3nm He mentioned he was very opposed to big gov which sounds more like a libertarian/authoritarian issue. Not so much left/right
@@limlimewastaken that’s right, you can be libertarian and still be on the left-right political spectrum.
Anteep nah
@@TA-kv3nm that is correct
"Well then you're working for the wrong company."
Aye, there's the rub. "The wrong company" is just about every company if you don't want to have a low paying Joe-job. It's a romantic notion that everyone can just start their own company where not having a degree is no biggie. But the vast vast vast majority of people will have an employer. And just about all of those employers require a degree (in anything, it doesn't really matter).
I do agree that a lot of university degrees are useless fluff, and it would be much wiser for many many more Americans to focus on getting a technical education. Also, there needs to be a refocusing towards trades (welders, machinists, mechanics, etc) that are critically understaffed.
You sound weak
Yeah people love to talk about self-employment like they have a company. But they don't, they just work without social security.
Bernie's plan was to Guarantee tuition and debt-free public colleges, universities, HBCUs, Minority Serving Institutions and trade-schools to all.
That would've been nice
@@Cryosxify giving Americans access to education is too "radical marxist communist socialist tyrannical baby killer gun snatching left wing". I'm dumb founded how easily people were tricked into voting against their own interests.
@@Cryosxify Can't afford it
I can never agree with the libertarian mindset for one fairly big reason. Big companies NEED regulating. Especially in these days in America. You have the most disgusting water supplies, a dreadfuly infrastructure and so on. Regulation here in Europe shows it works.
I agree that you can't have so much government ruling your life, so there is merit in there, but the whole "hands off" approach is untenable.
@TexasPROUD Good job Im not American then isn't it, idiot? I made that pretty clear in my post. And who cares what a constitution says. It can stil be wrong. Society is fluid and changes and if you rememerbed your consitution is ALSO fluid too as that why it's INTENDED to be amnede. Funny that, A british person teaching you about your contitution, isn't it?
The fact remains you have big companies that run roughshod over laws and require regulation. That's clearly demonstrable, fuck what any constitution says.
And again, even if what you said were true, it STILL doesn't dispute the point about businesses needing regulation. You didn't think this through did you? May I suggest you change your name to something more appropriate, say TexasThickAsShit?
@TexasPROUD Cool, then demonstrate WHY instead of running away. I've already showed you WHY it's a good thing as we do it here in Europe and it keeps companies in line. Show me why you think you don't need that.
Democracy is a false God, read Hoppe
The more regulation, the more power to the government-business complex. You only see the rhetoric, not the structure.
Left and right is a too simplistic way to look at politics, there's really at least four major metrics. Power of government is separate from economic structure, on the power spectrum, you've got Authoritarianism on one side and Anarchy on the other, neither is good for society. Authoritarianism creates dystopian hellscapes, Anarchy creates chaos, government power must be balanced to some reasonable level in between. Economic structure is the other major metric, on one side is highly regulated (communist, socialist), the other is no regulation (neo-liberalism). Again, extremes are bad for society, over-regulation doesn't work well, it breaks down logistically because the market can't respond naturally and dynamically to the billions of things that are constantly happening. Also, too much regulation has the unwanted side-effect of often being associated with authoritarian regimes due to needing a very powerful government to enforce the regulations. However, too little regulation, and we get stuff like the 2009 financial crises which was precipitated by deregulation of derivatives that allowed bankers to make money hand over fist by promoting a completely unsustainable lending system. If you give huge corps the ability to privatize gains and socialize losses, they will do it all day every day, where execs make millions and the public bails them out when shit hits the fan. So, we don't want anarchy, we don't want authoritarianism, we don't want too much economic regulation, we don't want too little economic regulation. Sometimes things go too far in one direction or another and they need to be RE-BALANCED back to something reasonable. - The example of medical costs in this country being 2x more expensive than any other country on the planet is an example of an IMBALANCE that has gone too far in the non-regulated direction as there is unmitigated greed pervasive in the system that is bleeding Americans dry. So yes, gov needs to step up here and put more reasonable regulations in place, but, fighting excessive corporate greed is tough in the states with so much money in politics. It creates a culture of grifting, greed, and corruption on both sides of the political spectrum. - Overly advantageous to big money interests, disadvantageous to the American people. Our twice as expensive medical system is a great example of this at work.
I would generally agree with this comment. In reading through it however, I was thinking to myself that "....yes, this is reasonable...but I wonder how many people will read down through all of this...", as many Americans are lazy and not willing to read beyond a couple of sentences. Then I read the first response about Americans needing it dumbed-down and it made me laugh.
As the comment noted, we need balance. Nothing on Earth is simple, nor are humans, nor are the societies that we've set up.
So where does China sit? They are hard against the authoritarian but on the commerical side there is next to no regulation. Government ultimately owns every corporation but the party member cream off the profits and ill-gotten gains while the authoritarian politics hide the reality from it's people
@@Dave5843-d9m Yes, highly authoritarian with most large Chinese companies acting as tendril extensions of the government, expanding and solidifying their power. China has become much more capitalistic over time to be more competitive, and to enrich those in power. The shift I believe came about largely due to Deng, who was highly pragmatic. But the point is, economic philosophy and government power are often incorrectly conflated in American politics. A country can end up with authoritarianism on either side of the economic philosophy spectrum, think Stalin vs Pinochet for instance. Hence the argument that the right vs left dichotomy is an overly simplistic and not very useful way of evaluating politics.
im saving this comment from how....hmm on point? it is, iv been telling American's for year's that you need at least 5 or 6 political system's. left and right are too little and barley fill the hole of actual topic's and concern's that need addressing.
@@Pentasoniczound what is your backround penta? where are you getting all this inforamtion from. Or are they just observation's?
the fact that Americans can and will speak up about things they don't like is why America continues to evolve. Anyone who tries to stop Americans from complaining is either not American or someone who is seeking power.
So true, "Well atleast it's not (Third Wordl Country)" is not a good reason to be quiet about something
there's a difference between complaining and being a perpetual victim. Things degraded because of complaining in the last 20 years
the problem is they complain about the tiny little things while ignoring the MAJOR problems such as a country being sold to China, not having the right to support freedom in America is kinda big much bigger than oh he should address me as X, big companies kneeling to china is more important than oh the police are doing their freaking job which is arresting criminals, babies & children getting killed is bigger than every freaking movie has to have male gay couples and all female leaders, the american society is being torn apart inside out and all they care is the next hip song (not even a song) that showed the biggest tits which can't be sexulizedd even
@@ItsameAlex you have the right to complain about whatever you want to complain about and no one can stop you - for now any way - seems like Americans are more and more open to restricting free speech - seeing how FASCISM is suddenly "cool" and "common sense"
@@jimmystetler2572 You're one of the only ones in the comments with some fucking sense.
Why is it that experiencing hardship mean you lose all empathy for others experiencing such things? They literally said that they bear a resentment to older generations cos they had it easier, yet cannot understand why people younger than them would hold the same viewpoint
I'm not really sure either. I think it is all too common to assume you earned your place more than someone else. To me, it felt a bit tone-deaf in light of racial tensions and political corruption. Also anyone who cares to say the older generation had it easier, or that everything was given to them is mistaken. They neglected issues such as HIV/Aids pandemic, WWII, Korean and Vietnam War, Lynchings and Civil Rights violations, gender discrimination in and out of the workplace, and the list goes on.
The same goes for their talking about "young people" who apparently ask for everything for free, but neglect that many of those young people are working 50 or 60 hour work weeks at minimum wage. They also neglect that to pay for the "free" services, they are asking for increased taxes, hence: it isn't free. It's a government insurance plan which is no more socialist than any other property, auto and/or health insurance (minus the man in the middle pocketing profits).
Therr is a difference between resentment and outright dismissal
@@Noah-cv4zo Thank you for this. Couldn't agree more.
Would also agree with Noah on this - but wish to point out one thing: Experiencing hardship develops empathy for others - it does not diminish it. Having NOT experienced hardship (as in one famous Cheeto) negates the development of empathy.
I grew up in a dysfunctional wealthy household and when I got out on my own I discovered how screwed up my worldview was. Thankfully I've had lots of nice, very patient friends who have been helping me over the years, and I like to think that I've improved, and have developed more empathy for others, etc. That said, I look at the Cheeto and can only shake my head at how permanently screwed up that worldview must be...how totally disconnected with any reality, etc.
"older generations cos they had it easier" younger people say this with no empathy to what the older generation went through. I know what my grandparents and parents lived like, I know what they sacrificed, I know how they packed all lunches, ate at home for dinner every night, lived in a "small home" their entire lives content (which everyone now calls a small starter home), sewed their own clothes, repaired worn clothes by hand, had only one vehicle, one tv, used wood instead HVAC because it was cheaper.
I am not saying that things were not different, that some things haven't been worse for us, but some things are remarkably better for us as well.
I will say that I know very, very, very few that live now as thrifty as previous generations did... and those that do are often made fun of for not "living their best life now".
think a lot of younger americans wanna go by in the ”work to live not live to work” mentality bc the reality is that not everyone gets to vlog on motorcycles and tell stories for a living. feel like some of the perspective in this is p myopic imho but it is what it is
like “don’t go to uni” when not even grads can get jobs in their fields so nobody hiring a guy w just a GED, “americans always complain, have u seen the roads they are great” when most americans live paycheck to paycheck and fucking up their car in a big ass pothole could mean dipping into what little savings you have to pay to repair your car. like shit man
kenon G 100% right
@@Ram-zc4fi i know winston has experienced poverty but he also has a contempt of poverty and struggle that's wildly arrogant, at least where Americans are concerned
@@Ram-zc4fi Well it's emboldened by the fact that many people get crushed by student debt and many of them don't even finish graduation, leaving them with debts that they struggle to pay off entirely.
I just don’t personally feel like wasting my whole life working every single day. I want to live and enjoy my life,
Thanks for sharing your guys thoughts, glad to see you guys being clear and respectful with the audience. Even if I may personally not agree with everything you guys say I can appreciate the clarity and sincerity... Stay awesome guys!
True. I don't really agree much with what these guys believe about personally, but I feel like in this talk they were honest and at least morally aren't in favor of authoritarianism, which is a relief. Also a Bernie supporter I appreciate them calling out the media bias, as well as the healthcare and university expenses we have here.
I do think there was a misunderstanding concerning the state of relationships because of personal politics; To some it may not be important, but with the divisions going on it's become a larger issue of a person's ethics, and your perception of the history of the other's politics. May sound dumb, but there it is.
@@greywolf845 I wonder how much of it is just the Internet. The vast majority of people don't have a strong enough opinion or the time to log on and rant about stuff, whether they are left or right-leaning. I hope the drivel I read coming from both sides is just representative of a vocal minority. I've never seen so many people (again, from both sides) be frothing at the mouth for violence or hoping that Person X or Person Y gets hurt or worse. Also a Bernie supporter who will be voting Biden, but I have no trouble shooting the shit with people from all persuasions. One of my favorite drinking buddies is a Trump supporter. Of course, we have some spirited debates but at the end of the day it's all in good fun and we both enjoy having friendly turf to be able to polish our arguments for our positions.
Honestly yeah. I actually disagree with almost everything they said here lmao but I still appreciate them.
@So Good I agree. However, they don’t seem to understand that Bernie Sanders’ appeal to young people is that he connects with young Americans’s struggles and offers a path to which they can be addressed, not a top-down system. Bernie Sanders is a democratic socialist, not a communist.
@@hellogoodmorning8888 Yes, but they've probably been hammered with "Bernie Sanders is a socialist" so many times that it's stuck. With the level of gaslighting that's going on in our country, it seems that political definitions have lost all meaning.
Imagine thinking America still rewards hard work. Millennials work longer hours then any other generation and will still be poor than their parents. 68000 people die a year without access to healthcare and people go bankrupt regularly for getting sick. Gofundme has literally become a platform where people beg other people to bail them out of life ruining medical debt and fund life-saving treatments. Education is less affordable than ever and America has a serious problem with a lack of skilled labor, especially in stem fields. Then there's the fact that the minimum wage allows someone to work full time and still be below the poverty line if they have a partner. These are all facts and no amount of whataboutism will change the fact America doesn't work for most people and the American dream is dead.
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...and yet we have more immigration from around the world and not many people leaving the U.S... Maybe they just didn't get the news about the death of the American Dream.
I've lived in a 3rd world country. I hear you guys talk about how great it is in the USA.
You guys have a very specific perspective based on your experience.
You've clearly never been homeless in the USA with no family to turn to. I have. You've never gone weeks without food in the USA. I have.
You've never had people judge you and look down on you because you're from a ghetto. I've literally had parents of friends forbid them from hanging out with me. Not because I was a bad influence or getting anyone into trouble. Just because I was poor and black.
You have no choice but to work your ass off and I have. I definitely appreciate everything that I have and that I've been able to work for and build up.
But just because you guys haven't experienced the "worst of it" doesn't mean that there aren't people with legitimate hardships and concerns.
There are people suffering in the USA just like there are people suffering everywhere else in the world. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it isn't there. And it's honestly not cool of you to keep belittling them and say everyone just cries about nothing.
People believing in a minimal safety net doesn't mean anyone wants everything handed to them. I've never on unemployment in my life but I believe it should be available for people who need it.
If you think antifa are burning shops and killing people for you poor people then you might be delusional.
@@Weezerfier who the hell said anything about antifa? Why do you assume I support them?
Delete the stuck-record narrative playing on repeat in your head then Come back when you're capable of having a normal conversation.
@@angryoaf So who do you support?
@@Weezerfier I support the people and movements that champion my values. Just like everyone else.
The fact that you immediately reference Antifa as a baseline of liberal ideological preference just shows how completely out of touch you are.
@@angryoaf Liberals, mass media, and state governments where democrats rules all support Antifa in the US. I don't know where you live.
The way they were talking, you’d think Bernie was still running.
I wonder if it was filmed a while ago and they held off on releasing it?
Well is California. If they were riding in the South East, I'd bet they see something else.
@dendo111 The progs only view him as a convenient step towards their ultimate goal. Many still think he's not pure enough. They're sick!
@dendo111 LOL! Dude your NHS is collapsing and is ultimately subsidized by US consumers who pay higher costs. SOCIALISM IS DESTROYING YOUR COUNTRY AND OUR WORLD! Screw Bernie, Screw Biden, Trump is saving the world! Pay attention to what he's actually saying and doing instead of getting propaganda from the media.
@dendo111 Americans have been tricked into thinking affordable healthcare, college, and raising the minimum wage are super radical leftist things.
I was wondering when you guys were going to run out of vietnam and taiwan motorcycle footage.
:[) LoL
These guys have enough B-roll to choke three elephants
Winston: "The whole mainstream lean nowadays is left-wing. Gotta turn left here." LOL No one caught that except me apparently..
"People seem to be supporting this guy talking about making healthcare vastly more affordable, but I dont really see what that's all about. Anyway, what do you think Winston?"
"America's super great. Except for healthcare. The system's absolutely insane!"
"I agree. But, yeah, these Bernie people... what are they on about?"
amazing lack of cognitive dissonance that would make some think more deeply about the matter or its roots.
@SirVixIsVexed
Wow, you think privately run healthcare with no regulation would police itself your blind. The entire not covering preexisting conditions was a big issue and was soley due to the fact that private insurance companies were allowed to do what they wanted on that front. The market will not self regulate regardless of what you think. Remember preexisting conditions. Until the ACA/Obamacare insurance companies avoided covering those because there was no regulation saying they had to. The ACA is far from perfect, primarily because it is still based around a for profit system but it was a start. We need to continue to find ways to change and and improve our healthcare system, not simply tear it all down like Trump wants to.
Also being able freely buy insurance across states lines which I suspect is part of your argument would do little to change that since the costs associated with healthcare in each state and even in part of each state are different due to differences in cost of living, cost of services and cost of real estate. A doctor or hospital in major metro areas will have higher overheads than one in more rural areas even within the same state. That will directly affect the insurance companies profit if that patient got their insurance from some state with much lower cost of living.
For buying a car or a new washing machine private competition works. For being able to get food affordable healthcare that same business model does not work. Getting good healthcare should not have to rely totally on a for profit business model.
right
I feel like my problem with listening to this was the total dismissal of the idea of a libertarian left. All of these points were very grounded in a belief of leftism necessarily needing an authoritarian state to function.
That is because it does. Without the authoritarian aspects it cannot function that's the only way you can force people to give up what rightfully belongs to them.
Honestly that's because the libertarian left is a fucking joke, has no opposition party, and sucks up to puppets like bernie or disregards the entire political system rather than voting libertarian regardless of the left/right divide.
When the boot is being strapped you should support anyone willing to oppose the strapping of the boot.
Yeah. Everyone i know who supports Bernie just want some public healthcare. Only the radicals on Twitter want actual communism
Americans quickly forget about their own socialdemocratic history...
Jesus, you really don't understand the political compass, do you? Your identitarian politics have got you real twisted up.
Healthcare is out of control in America, I agree with that.
I'm also from South Africa and I can completely understand where Winston is coming from. Political cynicism here is at an all-time high, especially among the whites, who just keep their heads down and hope things will keep on going for a few more years (nobody thinks beyond a few more years). We also have our escape plans for those who have money to afford them: first option, Australia, then, in approximate order, New Zealand, Britain, Canada and the US.
But the place is still ticking along after 26 years of the new dispensation. I think it has more resilience than many give it credit for. One thing that seems unlikely is the emergence of a dictatorial Leader and Father of the Nation in the style of Mugabe, who totally destroyed Zimbabwe over a 20-year period. If nothing else, the ANC has a habit of kicking out premiers who are too obviously incompetent. Their political majority is less than it used to be and they know there are limits on how far they can go.
@TexasPROUD And everything's bigger there? ;-)
So white farmers aren't being raped and murdered in SA?
Justin I'm worried for the whites of S. Africa. For those who don't have a lot of money, they need to have options also. Orania is a nice idea but surrounded completely by ANC controlled areas. Escape options for the not-so-rich should include Botswana, Namibia and Zimbabwe right? Also what about creating your own state and try for independence, perhaps in the Northwest part of the country (area with highest percentage of Whites)? Needs to have a port city for escape and/or international military support.
@@theresathekid8261 Yes they are, and in increasing numbers. It's also dangerous in the cities: you have to be streetwise when travelling anywhere. My home has security gates on the front and back doors, an alarm system, a security fence round the property and a 24-hour security guard on our street - and that's quite normal. My workplace is surrounded by an electric fence, razor wire, alarm triggering lasers, and a security guard during night time and the weekends. Our premises were still broken into about 4 or 5 times. I've been mugged three times but the last time was a few years ago (I'm more awake now).
I feel for the farmers, but I have to admit that for urban whites there is a kind of normality. It's a lot like the old Wild West - ordinary people in those western towns got on with their lives, but made sure to get out of the way of the people with guns, and accepted robbery and the odd killing as par for the course.
@@jackfroste One of my work colleagues just told me, now, that he was held up at an ATM yesterday by two blacks, one armed with a pistol, who took his card and drew R1000 cash from another ATM about two minutes later. Very much a day in the life...
Winston, when you think the system in the USA works, you've never been to Germany.
May be a hot mess, but it's nice to hear the appreciation for things most take for granted. Makes you think of small things we take for granted, and be grateful. As someone who's studied world history, I feel what you mean about people complaining over tiny things and just acting spoiled. It can definitely be worse.
I like how you kept mentioning Bernie/Trump and didn't even mention Biden XD
Apex Gemini The debates are going to be fantastic.
Old video.
"My name is Joe Biden.
And i forgot this message."
I personally wish Bernie was the option instead of the shit head that got thrust upon us.
@@ulipeterson6112 MAGA
"This message is brought to you by The Kremlin, Disrupting American Elections since 2016"
"I'm against university, I think it's dumb!"--"Oh, boy." Dead.
People would be shocked how many plumbers and electricans make six figures within a decade of starting. And if you eventually go out on your own you can easily pull in a few hundred thousand in work per year by yourself. And those aren't even the best paying trades. I have a buddy who became a welder who travels all over the world doing specialized jobs and he's already a multi-millionaire at 40 years old. And he's not even that amazing of a welder. He just learned some specific skills that put him in demand. Recession proof, Covid-19 proof jobs.
Go to school if you want to be an engineer, etc. We have enough liberal arts degrees. We actually have a shortage of people who work with their hands and it will only get worse in the future if we keep forcing school on our kids. Most of Germany years a trade. Relatively few go to school. It's not some backwards approach.
Fullmetal1890P Academia and Journalism (aka The Cathedral) are a total scam and should be treated with the same contempt as tobacco executives.
He’s not wrong. There is a ton of useless knowledge taught at Universities as if people are encyclopedias and google doesn’t exist. Universities are only useful if they are training for a specific field
@@RJT80 lmao always goota be shitting on the art and humanities. you do realize those things are just as needed four our societ yas engineering and maths dont oyu?
João Delgado I’m a mechanical engineer, so I’ll give that answer a big fat no.
9:16, when you pay an absurd amount in taxes, you expect it to be nicely maintained.
Winston I love you, but I really have to disagree with you when it comes to you calling americans spoiled for complaining. Yes things are far and away better here than in south africa or china, but that doesnt invalidate the ability to criticize or call for improvement, because america is in many ways worse off than most other first world nations.
Yes and this is an excellent way to see standards fall even faster. Does Winston think we got what we have in the US from gratitude journals? Um no we fought and died for this standard of living which slips away more by the year
LOL I thought the fake Stalin voice was funny with the NordVPN add haha
I love the humour of these guys. Still have to laugh, when I think about the dictator scene in worthless whips... It's just to much and that's why it's funny.
NordVPN doesn't do a bit of good, though. It doesn't do what it promises.
@@soulscanner66 Oh I didn’t know. What’s wrong with it?
Nord VPN doesn't work in China at all
@@haleytakamura6772 As soon as you sign into social media (i.e. TH-cam), they can track your activity.
I live in Vietnam and I find it absolutely mind-boggling that so many Westerns are defending this place with a straight face.
It is mostly the young naive youth that are easily influenced by grand notions of revolution, they just want something to fight against, but have no clue what it really is they want. Most of them hold very weak arguments if pressed..... on the other hand, I work with a lot of Vietnamese, and they have very strong opinions about Communism.
I'm an American socialist who would never defend the Vietnamese government lmao. Anyone sane doesn't. I wanna model our government more like European democracies.
In Tennessee, we have 5 (full time) semesters of free community college after High School. The high schools here are alright but the colleges are great. (Not university)
Wait what? Tennessee has free communuty college?
Williamson County deserves a shoutout here though, has some of the highest performing public schools in the country. Not the greatest of the greatest, but certainly capable of landing in the top 1% each year.
@@hippybecca yes, it's called TN Promise
That's fucking amazing! I had no idea. If only I'd been brought up on Tennessee!
"The ignorance of one voter in a democracy impairs the security of all."- JFK
I believe in one man, one vote. I’m the man so I’ve got the vote.
Lord Vetenari, Ankh-Morpork.
Like those who claim that Covid-19 is a hoax !
Theresa the kid I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again. Democracy simply doesn’t work.
@@seanwieland9763 I know republic is best. This quote I feel is agreeable with their sentiment.
@@pasoundman covid is a hoax
What drives me crazy about this "Stop complaining. Try living in a third world country!" is, that
1. that someone else has it worse has no bearings on if something is worthy of improvement.
2. thematizing problems, making aware of problems and discussing problems, or complaining in other words, is fundamental to improving things. I might even say the absence of it is a fundamental reason why some countries like China get stuck with problems.
You guys complain that China lacks a civil society and are right about it. The suffocation of the civil society is how Putin or the CCP are securing their power and its side effect is that there is no societal motor for positive change and solving problems. Politics in a republic is happening in large parts outside of state institutions.
The democractic republics of the world currently face a problem with the modern, digital information space. And the US suffers even more from that due to the effective 2 party system and the structure of the media landscape, leading to an accelerated creation of information silos and polarization. In Europe, we are a few years behind in that, but on the same path. The problem with that is that it rips apart civil society into isolated fragments and effectively sabotages the "pre-political" political processes.
If you want a very illustrative example of how important a civil society is, compare Russia and Ukraine. Both separated into separate states 30 years ago. In Ukraine, Oligarchs and corrupt politicians failed in suppressing civil society. In Russia, they succeeded, with the dying scream of russian civil society being silenced with the crushing of the post 2012 election protests.
Higher education is very important. It's true that university has become a con for most people, but it's ignorant to think a country can just dispense of true higher education even if it's only for a minority. It's a crucial minority that the country needs.
Yep, the majority of people would probably do better not going to university at all. But it's still incredibly important and strategic that certain bases are covered, esp in a big global player like the USA.
According to my younger brother, the way you start a fight in an Irish bar is to talk about religion, politics, or football (soccer)
That's so true I'm from Scotland+it's drummed into you to never talk about the stuff you mentioned... ✌️
Robert Currie Can I have some lemonade in my Bukky would also work.
@@mrmagoo-i2l DEFO! 😂
The same is true for Brazil!
Especially with the whole Ireland / Northern Ireland thing.
"Politics is the entertainment branch of industry." - Frank Zappa
ZAPPA WAS REPUBLICAN......FACT!
Incorrect attribution:
"Politics is the entertainment branch of the military-industrial complex."
---That is actually what Zappa said.
@@deepfreezevideoLooking it up, Frank is credited as having used several variants on the same quote. The one I used was one of those variants. The one you mentioned that specifies "military-industrial complex" also has several variants. This is true for most quotes with their creators deviating from the original, those documenting/recording the original and altering it along the way, and so on. I appreciate your pedantic compulsion to correct the incorrect because I certainly don't want to waste any more of my time on such trivialities.
8:13---Winston called us spoiled and insulted the feelings of Americans!!!!!! :D
He is right.
We Americans have been spoiled since ancient times.
absolutely spoiled. this is the best country in the world and people like you will be the demise.
@@357Addict what a great username
@damianraver We can use a very old problem to understand why. It used to be that towns had to have walls. Just to keep raiders out and allow a defense. After a town has had peace and prosperity for a very long time, they tended to tear down the walls for building material. It's all fine as long as you don't get attacked. We get thinking the good times last forever. They don't and the walls that protected the town are gone.
Stay Awesome!
As someone who is a left-leaning American, it is very humbling hearing your opinion and perspective, especially right now. I might not agree with you both on everything politically, but I respect your points and where you guys come from. Thank you for the down-to-earth content and viewpoints you guys bring every week!
Winston, you're comparing south Africa to America. We expect better from our government. We're a first world nation, we don't want to limit the meritocracy, that's how we instill what you like about America.
The problem is that they have not lived In Europe, where tax dollars are used by less corrupt governments to improve their lives
@@XBoxwolf "less corrupt" but still corrupt and able to fall into tyranny as any late-stage decadent democracy inevitably will, and the people are utterly unprepared to resist having surrendered their power to do so long ago. A people unable to force the government to leave them alone will not be left alone forever, one day a tyrant always rises and a disarmed people is helpless to resist.
In California, the Assembly is the lower house of the state legislature, analogous to the House of Representatives role in the US Legislature.
Andrew Kotyuk is the Republican candidate for an Assembly district in Merced County.
Measures such as A or B are proposed county level laws / bond authorizations which require voter approval. You would need to have access to the Merced County webpages to figure out what they are specifically this year.
Statewide voter initiatives are the Propositions, which are numbered, never lettered. Everything from modifying the California constitution to bond issue authorizations to tax law changes end up in them.
did the CCP wumaos understand this?
@@ursodermatt8809 no but I did
Lol, California trying direct democracy via referendums. That stuff only leads to chaos, look at the tyranny of the majority in France. They flip flop the direction of the wind each election
@@ArchesBro
aha, another CCP propagandist
I appreciate your point of view on younger generations. I'm only 16 years old and I know both of you guys are way more wiser and experienced in many ways so I am not here to really trash or disregard your opinion about the perspective of younger people. I do however disagree with the point that younger people just expect everything to be handed to them for free. It's true that the younger generations today have a grimmer future than what you guys had. The effects of the booming human population on planet Earth does not seem promising and the economy around the globe (maybe besides China, India, and select few) such as the U.S., Japan, and the EU are not booming as much anymore. The reality is that the environment and economy of the U.S. doesn't seem as promising as it seemed like decades ago. Today's research thinks that if the world continues producing and manufacturing at the same rate they did decades before, then the Earth will not be able to sustain itself for long. It does seem like younger people are privileged and bitch about everything but the truth is that things need to change fundamentally. Old habits and behaviors simply can't continue. It seems like Americans are complaining so much but the harsh reality struck us way too late and change needs to happen ASAP. sorry for the crappy grammar, I just put my ideas into sentences lol
I wish there was a retweet function for youtube comments
This 16yo speaks with more wisdom than the entirety of the United States government.
work hard, ask people that you see who are successful for advice, be thrifty in your early years, be dedicated and focused on what you are doing. In any economy, no matter the size, "climbing" the ladder to the very top is only achieved by a few. It is always a pyramid, always has been, even for previous generations. From what you wrote, from your sincere position, I am sure you will go far in life with work ethic, reliability, consistency, and an attitude that you will overcome obstacles not be victim to them. My biggest piece of advice, my friend, is be thrifty early, save your money, do NOT fall for the motto "live my best life now" and spend every dollar you earn. The reason is, is because years down the road, you will be in a financial place to make any decision you need to if you save in your early years. Here's to a bright future for you, I am rooting for you.
I was talking about this topic (changing views) with someone the other day. Her daughter visited California from China and came back with a drastically different view than she had when she left.
Course, this is a girl who went with an OPEN mind.
@@Cyrusaur She found out that what she'd been told about the US and it's system was wrong, and that it was NOT terrible.
(accidentally pressed send early)
She also discovered that Personal responsibilty, rather than group control, was good.
the CCP is so right wing it's dizzying... I went expecting communism, didn't take long tip I realized it's as fascist as can be.
Fascism is a better fit for the CCP. In my opinion the key characterisation of a fascist system is the veneer of private property - which there is to a degree in China. The government gets into bed with a handful of conglomerates and ends up centrally planning most of the economy. It's exactly what is happening in China.
Except Fascism is a left wing ideology and is closer to socialism than capitalism due to centralized control of economy. Mussolini was also a socialist...
Because fascism *is* 'left-wing', Fascism only became 'right-wing' due to Soviet cold war propaganda, as sharing an ideology with the Nazi's (National Socialists) was bad publicity.
This video was clearly filmed several months ago, they don't mention at all how the US economic system is essentially an oligopoly for most sectors, and they are missing a huge swath of differences between the left and right. A disappointing take overall.
Totally agree.
At 9:13, I absolutely hate it when Winston says this about America. Of course people are going to complain more about things that may seem insignificant to you or other people that come from worse circumstances. Your wants and needs are relative to the environment you grow up in. If you can barely put food on the table and there are no jobs in your country, of course you are going to complain about that. If your shelter and foods needs are met (as it is for most Americans), you will complain more about smaller things, to make society a better place. Yes, I can agree that people very picky sometimes such as the SJWs and the people who play heavily into identity politics, but by and large, these small complaints are what improve society as a whole.
I agree. He's way over-generalizing Americans. They fear-monger about Bernie Sanders for 10 minutes and then proceed to complain about the insane cost of health care, which is Bernie's #1 issue! I'm sure things can seem great when you're riding your motorcycle through California. But it's not as great when you're one of the ~500,000 medical bankruptcies a year, or you have your kids have permanent brain-damage because you had lead in your drinking water. People are right to complain about those things, and it doesn't make them spoiled.
What strikes me as strange, is that you still consider the "left" vs. "right" in the US.
e.g. In China it seems relatively simple - you're either for the government (say making some high-value good and dutifully exporting it world-wide for dollars) or against it (say propagating falun gong or mentioning uighurs) - you're on-side, or you're off.
The US, and most western democracies, are different as you can be "too far" in either extreme.
You could use the shed out the back of your house to tweak your weapon to be fully-automatic, or grow a pile of pot.
Notionally these actions are labelled right or left - but reality is that your technical law-breaking slots into particular movements of law-breaking, with associated political groups.
Not saying anything is right/wrong - but the China difference is that there don't seem to be any structures/groups that you can join and will lobby on your behalf.
But as I type this, almost seems insane to say that what China is lacking is lobbyists..
incredibly out of your element on these topics guys.
LMOA cmilk says I'm libertarian but wants socialized medicine 😂😂😂
Yet cmilk hasnt spend much time in a socialized country ,
I mean, the US spends the most per capita in the world on healthcare, and you STILL got to pay for even basic necessities, so you might as well have something out of that money
CMilk is a moderate leftist, he seems to be a minority pervert. At least he is sane.
I like him anyway, he looks into the cultures etc...
Libertarian Socialism
You aren't even capable of explaining what you just said, or how the healthcare works, or what the healthcare industry is and where it comes from (hint it wasn't created by the government).
And then you couldn't explain what a libertarian IS (even though C-milk stated its basic premise right after).
But you come out here just saying words, name calling.."socialized medicine"...like you just debunked him on something. Fact, you didn't.
And you people vote and think you're smart. *sigh*
The US Information technology job market would say otherwise 😂 Some places ask for a masters degree to be paid 18$ an hour 😅
In Spain we get asked for a master's degree and get paid 8$ an hour sometimes
@Đức Trần Master in Chemistry, Maths, Engineering, etc I'm afraid
A few of my thoughts
- hard work isnt enough in america, there is a large amount of success based on the previous generations' success, with race and gender definitely being factors.
- China is left leaning politically, but is also both heavily state capitalist and culturally right leaning (see censored media bc "lewd")
- College makes sense, as there is a verifiable aspect/background/authority to your claims of knowledge - with more technical courses often requiring actual manipulation of any hardware necessary for a task. Knowing by sight is completely different than knowing by practice, hence why doctors have to go through such rigorous work in med school.
- Even within America's right vs left conflict/argument, there is also authoritarian vs libertarian conflict within each of the two parties. And even more outside that, specifically for the GOP, there are those that back trump vs those heavily opposed to him.
- People complain about the small things because if small things are brushed to the side, they can cause a snowball effect. Also, you have to have the skill to complain about the small things in order to have the skill to conquer the hard things
- The younger generations do not want everything on a plate, they hold a lot of resentment to how older generations have treated the environment, as well as the opportunities. The younger generations have to work and pay exponentially more for the same results, which is nigh impossible in many cases.
I really don't want a nuclear reactor built/running by people with just a high school degree lol.
I mean, majority of people that do upkeep and construct a nuke facility only have a highschool degree. However it's only union workers that have the most strictest rules and regulations on the planet for doing the job.
Honestly for me personally I studied thermonuclear physics and engineering in college, I learned thermonuclear engineering from TH-cam, but thats not to say we don't need standards.
@@stephenguthrie3889 I don't know about in the U.S but in Canada, there are licensed engineers who do most of the upkeep I mean they don't pour the concrete but they tell them what and where to do it lol ex-girlfriend worked at a plant in Ontario but I guess your right most of the physical labor is high schooler
@TexasPROUD ya but your talking politics so whole different ballpark
Moon Light Films I would say it’d not only standards but also the need for reliable sources. I mean yes can find explanations for pretty much any scientific field but I guess you chose what to learn based on your college requirements. You still need professors, students, phd students etc that do research. People constructing the power plant may not have a high degree, but the people making to instructions/blueprints with the exact requirements have. There are levels in the working industry and every level is important but have a different function. People having a degree is one of them. Depending on the study laboratory or field work is also an important aspect of learning skills that cannot be experienced through the internet, books etc.
0:16
South Africa demographic winter, 1994
California demographic winter, 2008
United States demographic winter, TBA
@John Doe arrogance
John Doe If the US falls then we won’t have to put up with a self righteous weirdo calling everyone a racist because they dared to say they like black coffee.
But daz rayuzzizd.
Good job with destroying the internet, yank.
Yes, Winston, we are spoiled and the rest of the world wishes it were as spoiled as we are. That is why they wish to come here, including you. We have it so good in part because Americans do not settle for good enough. Our complaints tell government and businesses they need to do better. We demand improvement and do not settle for the status quo.
Precisely
I love hearing your perspectives from having lived in different countries for so long and observing US politics. Also it is so respectable how sometimes you guys don’t agree on everything, but obviously you’re still best friends. Like, imagine that! Wow everyone doesn’t have to agree with all my beliefs and we can still respect each other and have conversations about it
The whiny spoiled people that complain about stuff are in the vast minority. They're just the loudest whiners and get the most attention.
Aka trump
@@kalenal1841 Umm... I don't think so 😂
Like my teacher said "the one who is loudest and shouts most is the winner" not literally always ofcourse but yeah
Depends what's being complained about.
@@jetsetradio7715 Conservatives are whining about wearing masks and a bunch of other conspiracy theories. The healthcare and college situation are basic human rights that basically every successful and stable country besides the US guarantees to its citizen.
I sometimes feel Winston suffer from the four yorkshiremen syndrom: You think you had it bad, when I grew up we...
Lol Yeah...altho considering what ANC-land is like.....he actually does have a point when he launches off down that track
he literally had it harder though, he grew up in SA dude...
Lick road clean with tongue.......
@@dougstubbs9637 i think growing up their it must have been easy while with his parent's it only recently went to shit. before this period south africa was alway's viewed as a tourist location and one of the wealthiest places on the planet.
Exactly. Winston sometimes talks bullocks.
I don't get how you got from Sanders call for a Scandinavian style reform to a Chinese communist government?
Especially when his top concerns are affordability and access to healthcare, and a jobs program which would entail significant infrastructure upgrades and repair. Which were both two major topics in your video
This is unfortunately the common misunderstanding among rightwingers and they do not want to learn lol some even think school is dumb
Winston: "Americans are incredibly spoilt ... like a spoilt child ...".
They have some bright minds, but it is true.
Example: Decades ago we already learned in school that an American needs as much energy as 180 Africans.
It did not change.
Island in Thailand, Bungalows: Americans let the A/C run all day long even though they are outside. Electricity is generated by Diesel generators ...
Burma: American leaves the windows of his room open all day long while absent , A/C running.
In school we also learned that an American does not open the blinds but rather would turn on the light in the middle of the day.
This sounded really sick to us - but it turned out to be true.
Same topic: It is too hot in winter. Americans don't reduce the heater but switch on the A/C.
They need more education.
Haha this is so true. As an American, examples provided were spot on.
@@rainsnow5541 Thanks for confirming!
@@Sagittarius-A-Star Yeah like some these I was like 'Eek I actually don't see anything too wrong with that' but when I thought about it more. Its definitely wasteful.
I've got to agree with Winston about university. In many fields, some direct experience (= problem solving + autonomous and inductive studies) teaches more than an entire course at the university. That's what i've learned after years spent (wasted, i should say) attending engineering.
University is only useful to certify a minimum level of quality, which is good to reassure employers.
I feel like engineering is one of the few examples where this isn’t the case. Civil engineering for example surely you in the US would have to go to University to be accredited with designing bridges etc right?
@@jackgibbons6013 I promise you that passing engineering exams does not mean being able to build a bridge. It means having a minimum level of knowledge, which however is not enough for building a bridge in the real world.
How many newly graduated you see at the head of a big project? ...they always start at the bottom with secondary tasks, and they're required to accumulate years of experience anyway before maybe handling a project.
Of course, being graduated certifies the minimum standard i was talking about, which is reassuring.
As an aerodynamicist, i use about 20% of what i learnt at university, and i'm not the exception. I could have learned such things only and spared myself years of useless studies. I consider myself a good aerodynamicist, and that's thanks to the personal projects i did on my own to accumulate experience, not university.
I disagree, university teaches you how to learn and think critically, it should not however cost $100,000
Nobody is romanticizing authoritarianism, people are looking back to FDR and the days when creating functional infrastructure was possible. Leaving the well-being of society in the hands of corporate power produces an unstable, inefficient society with an enormous wealth gap. America’s health care system is a great example of this. Things that are absolutely essential to the public good (like transportation infrastructure, basic utilities, healthcare) should be controlled by the public.
*sees title*
"Oh no, what can of worms are you going to open?"
I thought the same thing at first but was greatly pleased to see that C-milk is still down to earth and doesn't have his head up his ass. It's so easy to jump on the "orange man bad" bandwagon, it's always so heartening to see other people who can think for themselves.
@@beph13 Well Trump is still the closest towards authoritarian in the last 50 years and probably one of the worst 10 presidents ever. Maybe even one of the worst 5.
@@Dragonited I don't think you know what authoritarian means... You know less government means less authoritarian right?
@@beph13 If you think that Trump or even Republicans are for less government you are deceiving yourself. Sure it might be for things that would actually help the people like education, healthcare, regulations, environmental protection etc. When it comes to policing, surveillance and military they are very much against less government which are all important tools for an authoritarian president to keep his power when the people in time will try and take back that power.
The language the president is using is also a part of authoritarianism. A strong leader going after his opponents without any actual evidence or base to go on is a clear sign of authoritarianism. That is precisley what Trump is doing.
@@Dragonited Do you have any evidence for anything above? Sure, he is protectionist in economic policy and foreign policy, but how is that authoritarian? It's rather just not completely libertarian. But for matters like free speech, he's been excellent: Silicon Valley has received ridiculous amounts in subsidies so they have no right to censor people who paid those subsidies in taxes. Comparatively the Democrats want to control literally every aspect of your life down to what you eat, say, think, buy, how you vote, how you express yourself etc. Sure, he's not a true libertarian but he's much better than any Democrat.
I work for Alberta Health Services. I'm using school to prep for a higher paying role that requires more knowledge. You can only go so far without it.
I should mention that its harder for people to trust me for more complex roles with my blindness. I have bi-latteral optic nerve hypoplasia.
this was a clusterfuck of an episode, it was great still:)
I think for once you guys are actually a little under educated on some of the more important issues in America, although if you've been watching the American media you're perspective makes alot more sense. I'de love to give you guys a different perspective on what's going on :D
the thing is, economically speaking, ALL communist country swing right hard after dissolution of the Soviet Union. The left economical policy is based on heavily regulated economy, while the right is more liberal (ironic) - or less to no regulated (think US before Teddy Roosevelt). The communist (or ultra radical left in a sense) is based on no private economy (all planned), but it was disbanded in the 90s. So when the only all encompassing directive (banned private ownership) is gone, there is no more regulation, hence a hard ass swing from left to right economic.
But the liberal vs authoritarian is not a left right politic thing: there are left wing authoritarian (communist countries), right wing authoritarian (Middle east; or hell, nazi - I'll not capitalize those bastards), left wing liberal (Northern European and European heading to in general) and right wing liberal (the US, at least until recently). Most Asian and European countries are centrist both economic and gov style (and it's great too)
Right and Left are relative terms and change depending on the circumstances. In 1776, Thomas Jefferson would have been an extreme leftist, wanting to get rid of monarchy and all. In 2020 he'd be "far right" with exactly the same views on natural rights, individual liberty, and the limited role of government.
Liberal and conservative are much the same way -- thus a "right-wing conservative" in Europe is absolutely nothing like a "right-wing conservative" in the US. Sadly, the American "left-wing liberal" definition has moved quickly within the last 15 years to fairly well match the European definition.
@@antaine1916 i think American Left still quite some way away from Western European Left, let alone Nordic Left... Frankly, US Left is pretty much right everywhere else.
Yeah kids, don't be suckers, don't go to law school or medical school, just watch a tutorial on youtube and land the job of your dreams.
Lawyers, doctors, and teachers are jobs that require "education" for the sake of requiring education. A fresh grad doctor most likely inferior to an experienced nurse, just like fresh grad lawyers are probably inferior to veteran courthouse clerk.
They won't allow nurse to be physician, or clerk be a lawyer because they want to protect their own privilege.
A century ago, a mere clerk may one day become a lawyer by become an apprentice to a lawyer, and learn the job helping his "master".
When the master confident enough with his apprentice's knowledge and skill, he could send his apprentice to do the test and to get his own license as lawyer. Experience is (and always will be) the best teacher.
@@ihl0700677525 Doctors and nurses are not inferior or superior to each other, they have different jobs, a doctor will diagnose an illness while a nurse will take care of the patient while he's sick. And they both have to go to school to become one. A courthouse clerk might know the procedure in that particular court, but he doesn't know the law, take him out of that area, and send him to a civil or penal court or ask him to write a contract and he's going to be out of his area of expertise, a recent grad lawyer, might not be the best at any of it, but he will find his way in each if needed.
i think his point was if your passionate about something that doesn't need a degree you don't need it
@@ihl0700677525 First, I guess you don't know about NPRN's or Doctor of NURSING who can practice independently. Second Doctors technically have more room to grow than nurses. An experienced Doctor is far superior than experienced Nurse.
@@Xergecuz That's just silly excuse. Clerk could very well "know" the law, and nurse know various symptoms and how to treat various disease.
Think about it: The key is not about their role in their current job, but whether the clerk or the nurse could pass the test to be a lawyer or physician or not. Meaning whether they have the actual skill and knowledge necessary, which medical and law school are *NOT* the only places they can get it from.
They could very well get their knowledge from *TH-cam videos,* and so what? If they pass the test, they should get the license.
I recommend you guy go watch the new Veritasium video on success. You were successful as English teachers in China because you worn born in native English speaking countries. Your successful on TH-cam because of the growing animosity between China and the US. You "working your ass off" doesn't matter nearly as much as you think it does.
Ross N nah, their channels got popular before that. But they were definitely in the right place at the right time with the right skills. I love the night time B roll, especially with wet streets and neon lights. I love all the interesting places and people they found. It helped that they knew computers, knew how to do photography, knew two languages (+ Afrikaans/Finnish but that’s not really relevant), and knew how to talk to people. It helped that quality info about China was so scarce.
They also worked their asses off.
@@peterfireflylund They left their own countries to each English. "Knew computers" sounds like something over 40 says. Anyone can learn how to edit videos now, even TH-cam has a built in editor. They can have money to strap on expensive cameras that most Americans and Chinese both would be envious of and cannot afford. Most of the world speaks more than one language, that exists only as a negative stereotype against Americans. When in fact most Americans also speak Spanish, nevermind a swath of others who learn in school or the vast number of refugees we take in. The fact is if you're lost coming out of college or not doing anything with your life, teaching English abroad is a very easy option and especially China is incredibly easy to get into. It's literally one of the lowest bar things you can do since you don't need any skills, you don't need to speak Chinese, they just started asking TESOL or similar certificates like six months ago, it's literally a white monkey job to make the school look more prestigous than it is. There are several sites you can join now to teach English to Chinese kids from your home and before it got flooded with lost people that needed jobs in America, then China demanded at least a certificate which you buy for as cheap as $20 from Groupon. They were able to learn by immersion. You learn a language the fastest when you're dropped off and forced to live in a place where that's all they speak and read. I'm sure it took hard work to learn Chinese still, but Winston has even admitted despite being homeless for a small time, he admitted it is easier to climb the socio-economic ladder in China -- you can go from homeless to getting a job and a house, you can't do that in America as easily. There is tons of quality info about China that's objective, you just agree with their opinions and like them. Check your biases, they look some of the lowest work lost people take if they're willing to travel especially right out of college where C-Milk was able to learn more Chinese which apparently Winston is against. Someone who blows through his money and has to live on the streets of a developing country at that is not someone reliable to take advice from. He might have learned a lot about China but he literally failed the easiest way to get out of his country and take an easy job that paid while you can still have a community of other expats teaching English at the school. Imagine going to teach English and all you blow all your money in a developed country like Korea or Japan, it'd be much harder and they'd be forced to find enough money from their parents to fly them home and admit to failure. They literally jumped the lowest hurdle someone can do jobwise if you want to leave your home country and make a modest sum of money, especially in China, a poor country where the RMB to USD conversion will benefit you unlike Japan or Korea where others go to teach English and do the same white monkey jobs that have parlayed them into vlogging.
South Africa isn't a native English speaking country, Survivorship bias is a thing, but you know nothing about their lives, so your explanations for their success are completely speculative.
In most well funcioning countries the majority are center left or center right. The fringes of the spectrum on bouth sides have authoritarian lenings. Inmany EU countries centre left partie often ruled succesfully in coalition with centre right parties. It’s funny how bouth extreme left wing communists and extreme right wing nationalists have so many similarities and often colaborate and suport each other in the real world. Dar left is as much authoritarian nationalist, conservative when it commes to individual freadoms as far right parties. Putin, suports Lukashenko and Maduro (communists) and the National Front in France, Golden Dawn in Grece, and multiple other nationalist fringe parties and groups in the EU. The most frightning this is they also suported Trump and the different fringe elements that constituted his suport base. What i have seen lately is that the fringe spectrums of the political spectrum are trying to radicalise the centrists and „make them choose sides” aka either you support all left wingers or all right wingers instead of all sane centrists. The best functioning societys ware built on a dialogue and compromise between centre left and centre right parties. These coalitions kept the fring radicals on the outskirts of politics. Funny enough when the centre rightvand centre left was uniting aroud this idea of centrism the radical fringe elemnents on bouth sides of the political spectrum united aroud what they had in common, authoritarianism, conservatism, feudalism, oligarchism, police state, strong brutal leadership, harsh punishment ect. Thats howbliberal democracy clashed with nationalist feudal oligarchic model. That said i think it’s ok to be right or left wing within the centrist, liberal democratic framework. The radical elements always build their plicy around us vs them. One truth one party. Loyalty and obediance to this one person one party. Ends justify the means because we are always tight and they are always wrong. All even slightest discontent shiuld be brought down as quickly as possible. People have to be kept in line with propaganda and tjose that question it should be threttened, fined, jailed, tortureed and those that constantly undermind our system, show it or us in a bad light should be murderred in such as way that it will make others think twise about vocing and or acting on their discontent. Al you have to do in order do understand how autocricies on bouth sides of the political spectrum are basically two sides of the same coin is how you can replace left or right wing authocratic regimes as us and their political oponents as them. The important thing to notice is that such regimes in most cases try and eliminate the centre right and center left and their fringe couterparts on the other side of the political spectrum usually join them by acknowlaging many shared values.
Growing up I was more liberal but somehow in the last 25 years the goals posts have been moved and somehow I've become a right wing nut job from an external perspective. I think it more resembles libertarian nowadays.
6:53 That is why I like roundabouts we have here in Europe, cannot wrap my mind around the 4 way stops and how effective they are for the traffic.
We've actually had a couple of them in my small US town and they're a huge fucking improvement to the 4-way stops there used to be.
You have some bad takes here Cmilk.
Yes you worked your ass off but you were also lucky. Lucky you didn't fall ill and racked up huge medical bills. Lucky to be born with the intelligence and capacity to create this success.
Not everyone can be an entrepreneur' and not everyone who 'just works harder' gets to be rich.
There's plenty of people out here working 3 jobs, struggling to get by and feed their kids.
Don't forget Europe exists. Our social systems work and yet we enjoy freedom. I'd even argue we live more free, because we aren't subject to insurance companies extorting us and education indebting us. Amongst other things.
Well said
Not to mention, lucky to be a white dude. I mentioned this in a different comment, but this video comes off especially tone-deaf in light of current civil rights violations and race conflicts going on in the US. This idea that the US is, or ever truly was a "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" country has been proven false again and again. Surely there are many countries facing great political and economic resistance, but it's statistically proven over generations that the vast majority of people in the middle and lower class of the US never move up, and I guarantee you it isn't for lack of effort. One man's experience is far from a statistical trend.
@@Noah-cv4zo WHY ARE YOU LYING? Why are so many third worlders scrambling to get in to the US? Are you saying it's sooooo racist in the US, but all the non-whites trying to get in are too dumb to know that? Or maybe they know that it IS the "pull yourself up by your bootstraps" kind of country and it doesn't matter as much what others think of you in the US since you'll succeed if you work hard? And if the USA is so waaaaaacist, why is it one of countries with the highest percentage of its population that are foreign-born (and these days mostly non-white)? Name ONE non-white-majority country that admits as high a number number of immigrants that are racially/ethnically different than its native-born citizens as the USA, Canada, UK... your worldview seems to be devoid of facts about planet Earth.
TTD racist with a good economy is still way better than no economy which is why people would want to move from the third world to the US. So you could be black and from Uganda or something and it’d still be way better moving to the US. But just because this is true doesn’t mean that the states have a few issues regarding racism that would be better if they were worked out. My point is, is that people moving from the third world to the US is not really a valid defence for saying the US doesn’t have a few race issues to sort out.
Yeah I totally agree, the freedom to go out as a freelancer and not have to deal with healthcare stuff / costs is a huge deal. And I would argue a big anti competitive thing. If major companies are the ones that give you the ability to have healthcare then it really discourages small business competition
The good thing with free speech and protest, even when it gets monotonous and annoying to listen to, is that at least no matter who wins the elections they can't afford the chance to be complacent in their ideology and in their programs. Most if not all ideas carried to the extreme lead to a clusterfuck. What seems to be holding it all together - despite some major issues (environment, health, economics) - is the effort of countless nameless practical and self-critical ordinary people working on most issues. The problem is that these same characteristics aren't very beneficial for said individuals in political arenas filled with narcissists and opportunists. It seems to me that all average sane citizens need to be less complacent and braver in challenging the loonies and working on the greater issues. I don't agree you guys on everything, but you are definitely doing this last part. Keep up the good work!
all I hear is sanders this and sanders that
new for you: sanders is not the democrat candidate, no mention of Biden in this video
finally winston came out as a trumper, we knew it for a while...
"they keep attacking trump" trump has been insulting everyone since he launch his candidacy, what did he expect? kisses and hugs?
I think Winston has seen collectivist evil in both SA and China and knows Trump fights it and is relentless and laughs in its face. The media hates Trump and Winston likes seeing Trump triumph regardless.
I'm betting Biden, if prez, would make nice with China to show how diplomatic he is compared to Trump. That would be a mistake.
Yes the roads are bad in other countries but come and check them out in Michigan our current governor ran on the statement just fix the damn roads and she won and they're not fixed is corruption for you we pay for the roads at the pump so where did the money go
You guys should cover Yuri Bezmenov, he covered the influence of Russian communist influence in the west. I would like to see you guys connect what he said and how China uses soft power propaganda in the west
For Winston's comment on universities or colleges there is a use for them in terms of enforcing standards for the field you're doing. You mentioned the health care system and just imagine if you have to get heart surgery with your doctor that was taught through youtube, wouldn't that make you question his credentials?
Most of the issues is that most of the old systems have not been updated to fit in the present. Either we help improve the system or we vote who would improve the system in North America which most choose to just vote.
He wasn't criticizing education that's applicable but the inflation of degrees and jobs that "requires a degree" any degree even basket weaving/liberal arts just for the sake of it almost as a vanity.
This is because universities in many cases have become scams churning out useless degrees to people that ends up under a mountain of debt jobless.
But proper formal training in a real field like Medicine or Law to practice in those fields or do research that's a whole different ball game ,but is often conflated by people because degrees with titles have become vastly inflated,
To use the SARS-CoV-2 situation as an example: even someone that graduated last in med school and never went into practice or does walk ins two times a week can call himself "doctor" and get TV interviews and undermine experienced physicians and scientists with real experience and muddy the waters .
I think what they're both missing here is twofold:
1. University education raises the value of your workforce as a country. The more highly educated individuals your nation has, the more high level and high paying service, entrepreneurial, and technology fields your citizens can fill, generating greater tax revenue, raising gdp and allowing more people to explore roles they are actually interested in, be that doctor, designer, lab tech, IT specialist, plumber, shop salesperson, etc.
2. Universities teach more than your major alone. They teach you history so as to better understand politics, diverse populations and cultures (both abroad and domestic). They offer the opportunity to learn foreign languages so you can travel and/or move abroad. They expose you to other fields that you might find interesting and may change the course of your career. Additionally, they offer connections and networks which can help you throughout your life. Certainly, you can get these elsewhere, but most people who don't go to college also don't do any of this, and as a result, it fosters a sense of resentment and self-absorption (with nothing to compare your experience to, you will struggle to distinguish complex issues)
It all is rather funny that C-Milk, someone who was once a "college professor" should say that university is dumb. That's like if I watched a video on youtube on how to fix my toilet, then called all plumbers idiots because their job could be done for free.
But in summation:
Does everyone NEED a degree? -No
Is society worse for all the people who get a degree? -No
Is the higher education system in the US problematic and needlessly overpriced? -Definitely
Does that mean getting a generic degree is "stupid" or pointless? -Definitely not
Should some people consider other options -Sure! Trade schools are a great option. There's also nothing wrong with working in the service sector. Bootcamps for IT are also possible (but consider the fact that most IT positions require a BA degree). Also definitely do your research before jumping headfirst into a niche or low-paying college degree. Know the market and consider your alternatives first.
Question to Winston: assuming you need a heart transplant, do want to have this done by a proper M.D. or somebody having watched five TH-cam videos?
I'd say at least a dozen TH-cam videos and I'm all set ;)
Becoming a doctor could be done more efficiently through direct apprenticeships rather than wasting 8+ years (and hundreds of thousands of dollars) in school learning a lot of irrelevant information.
I have another question. If you have a heart transplant, do you want to have the surgery in US or somewhere that has “free” healthcare or cheap healthcare?
@@ADVChina and having stayed in a days inn the night before?
@@cattraknoff specify irrelevant information, and then please state your experience as a healthcare worker
Not gonna lie but this one was difficult to watch. It's very obvious that you both have been outside the US for a while as many of your talking points are coming straight from the media. There may be some "special snowflakes" that get mad at the slightest provocation and others who just want free handouts from the government but they are by far the minority. In my experience, the vast majority of people simply want a government that affords then the opportunity to work their ass off and make a comfortable life for themselves. As it is now, they're still working their ass off but are falling further and further behind. They look around and see the insane heathcare costs, over-inflated tuition, unaffordable housing, and people at the top who are racing away with all of the money and it makes sense why politicians like Bernie Sanders would apeal to them. It's not about wanting an authoritarian government as you put it. It's about wanting a government that will help them meet their basic needs. A government for the people, not for the corporations.
you're wrong...we do not LOVE talking about politics. We are forced to defend ourselves against an overreaching government.
The USA is a good place not because we're entitled and should be happy with what we have, but because we won't stop trying to improve on it. If the problems are minor ones in the margins, then go after them. Never stop trying to improve and make sure the laws are obeyed, changed, or gotten rid of to suit what we need. That is how it got to be so good in the first place.
It's not that they want things habdes to them they want to know that working hard will get you somewhere. Some of us have watched our parents, both working hard, go from middle class to poor. What are we working for then?
@DonCervantes hahaha. Sure thing. That's why the most liberal market places do have a very low median salary but a high average GDP per capita right?
I agree that liberation does have it benefits but the biggest downturn is the non existent equality for poor born civilians. If the us wouldn't spend as much money on "defence" you all would have healthcare and a much better social security.
@DonCervantes "GDP refers to the money the government takes from its people" No it doesn't. GDP stands for Gross Domestic Product. It has nothing to do with taxes
Every day there’s another reason to love Winston more...
What is today's reason?
@@adamclark1972uk He wants better healthcare in America but would vote for people who don't want to do that.
@@MarkfromNewYork Hm, but his grammar is shit. He said "Eating dogs ARE bad." How can anyone say that? "Eating dogs IS bad" ffs..
Mister Trousers actually several... having travelled around myself, his depiction of spoiled Americans is priceless. I’m so much MORE grateful to be lower middle class in the USA than I was before I wandered.
I expect the "I work hard you don't and that's why I have money and you don't" argument from a sixty-year-old. Wow. Well guys I went to college (worked real hard there) I'm trilingual (there was a bit of effort involved in that as well) I have a full-time teaching job (bye bye free time) and I can't afford to rent an apartment anywhere in the city. I actually define privilege as "when working hard works".
Exactly. Winston is a locust that exploits the countries until his privilege runs out, then blames the government. After a while, he WILL blame California, the regulations, or someone else when he can't find success here. He doesn't think he has privilege. He's just woefully ignorant.
Maybe this is why people should go to college.
Bernie Sanders? That ship has already sailed.
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I think you're undervaluing degrees Winston. No matter how many places I applied, I got no calls, no emails, and no interviews from proper careers. Even most retail and fast food places rejected me. After I got my degree, at least 1/4 of employers I applied to were interested and others at least responded to reject me.
Yeah it all depends, I'm just saying if you have a passion you can educate yourself in that field and do courses etc without falling into student debt
@@ADVChina Its impossible to do that in America without being propped up by your family (if your family can even afford that).
Thank you, Winston. Appreciate the kind words about the US and I'm thrilled that you enjoy it so much.
I'm one of those white Americans that's all in for Bernie Sanders' type of super progressive government. I don't know much about Libertarians and have judged them in the past but because you C-Milk feel strongly about it, I'll look into it. You're very intelligent and I often agree with a lot of things you say and believe so I think it's worth researching. I will say it's kind of odd to say you're a Libertarian in one breath and then say you dislike the health care industry we have as entrepreneurs it's hard to find insurance. The progressive movement is all about providing free healthcare to all but I believe since Libertarians dislike big government, they'd be against this wouldn't they? Just saying.
Libertarianism is unrealistic.
Democratic socialists are leftist Libertarians and hate the idea of authoritarianism
Klaa2 how do you know that they’re lying
I think winston is getting into that california cabbage lol.."im admiring the free range cow" giggles like a girl 15:25
I don't think "screw universities" is the right philosophy, to be frankly honest. Whilst I don't think it is for everyone, I've told friends straight out that they aren't meant for university when they've felt pressure to go, and for some fields entirely unnecessary blundering that holds people back (Seriously, a degree for art, a topic of subjective opinion?). On the contrary, there are a lot of subjects and topics that greatly benefit from university level education.
this is the video where you realize you shouldnt be listening to these people on politics, just the cultural stuff... yikes.
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Listening to someone is different from being indoctrinated by someone.
You have all the right to disagree, but to think your opposition shouldn't be heard... Well I have bad news for you
Most of the US Left wing is Center Right in other countries.
@Josh Mullard
If by 'other countries' you mean western europe. The rest of the world's right wing parties are far more conservative than republicans. Have you looked at Asia? Strongman leaders are the default, and people like it.
Not to mention the entire Middle East. And Africa. And South America. Economically, I guess you could call them more left wing, but socially, they're _way_ more right wing.
Jonathan Lau I can assure you from a european perspective that your statement is wrong.
I’m from Europe and the US left wing is pretty extreme left tbh.
@@bottleofwatero1 No, I think it's still in case. Even Bernie isn't that radical in most of Europe as most countries already have what he's proposing.
I started watching this channel living the US and thinking the Chinese views were so exotic. Fast forward 7 or so years, and I've been in Japan for ages. It's like coming full circle seeing the US landscape now. Beautiful. Thanks for continuing to do what you do even though you couldn't stay in China. SerpentZA btw has a very good view on the mindset of the US as well. Everyone should count their blessings every once in a while instead of feeling like a victim of the system!
So basically china made you guys politically callous?
They're just typical Western douchebags that exercise all the privileges of being a white Westerner, exploit other cultures for TH-cam sub$cribers, and then blame government when that privilege is used up. This is where their channel is headed. Toward the Ben Shapiro/Jordon Peterson direction. The perfect example of the obnoxious entitled Western tourist.
Exactly.
Sorry Winston, I don’t think you can make PhDs off TH-cam. Biochemistry ain’t easy. XD
Winston doesn't even have a college degree to begin with!
@@adamkarim8855 Though, that's not to say he needs one for his career- and I think that's his point and perspective.
I like the fact in the US, the left and right and whatever are arguing all the time. We are always looking to improve, change the ways we do things. Americans care very much about fairness. So they are working hard to achieve that. The hard part is how we can agree on what's fair. Not easy. Let's keep arguing and learn to compromise.