so anyways I was climbing the side of a cliff about a football field tall, and me being about the height of 15 cheeseburgers figured out that I can climb this in about the same time as a football could be thrown up by Tom Brady, but I forgot to factor the length of the slopes that have the curvature of a fruit by the foot. So if I have a rope the length of three whales and within time increments of a cookie deteriorating in milk I should be able to make this climb and receive a F in climbing grade and college grades mostly because everything I say doesn't make sense, yeah America
Last part is true except when it comes to trad climbing😅 when I was climbing a lot I could on-site most of the 5.12 bolted routes I came across, but usually avoided anything over 5.9 trad if I could help it.
Did you know V grade's initially were thought to be as such V0, V1 any fit & able body can climb. V2, is just a little bit more technical then V1. And V3,V4 was for the people who spent time on bouldering, and getting good at strong moves compared to sports endurance. It was a shift in climbing culture ❤
These grades are also very different depending on what region you are climbing in. I’ll trad lead 5.10 in AL and 5.8 in NY. Also on what discipline. I’ll TR anything.
In the southeast USA we say "class" 3, 4 or 5 almost always. I've not heard of "c" in whitewater unless it's pertaining to canoe. C in climbing means clean aid, as in not using a hammer to drive metal into the rock.
@@warrengooch6538 I guess it’s just something I hear where I’m from, but yeah we also refer to different canoes as c1 or c2 and specify whether open boat or not
This why British grades are the vast . You get clear difficulty and conditions of the route. The severity e.g(s,sv,e) and hardest move e.g(5+,6a,8b) and huger the severity the higher consistency of hard moves and the type conditions
I got sad nobody replied to you. You either have a friend that can take you out to the rocks and teach you, or you go to an indoor gym first, learn the basics and find friends there. Its easier to find friends in a bouldering gym as well.
Classes are better explained this way: 1. Walking 2. Walking uphill 3. Scrambling, hands may be required for balance 4. Consider a rope for protection 5. Rope and gear required for protection.
Highest I’ve climbed is a 5.9, I was really close on some 5.10s (I don’t remember the letter) and I’m going climbing today, hoping I can get another chance at them
I don’t understand how you would get down from a climb. When you get to the top what do you do, what if you get extremely tired or dehydrated, can you go back down?
There’s a trick: Grab a handful of chalk and rub it all in your hair…close your left eye only, put one finger in one nostril (any finger…either nostril), cross your toes on both feet, call out “shalamama labooboobay” 5 times….close your eyes as tight as you can and click your heels three times…. When you opens your eyes…. …..you’re still stuck at the top. So you man up…realize the situation…compartmentalize all that tired, sore, etc behind the task at hand….and get down. Lol…sorry…you hike off the side or lower yourself back down with your rope. Haven’t you ever hiked to an “overlook” or scenic area? That hike “to the top”, is a climber’s “walk-off”.
That other comment was insanely long and confusing, so I'll explain it. As you climb on lead, you take the rope up with you clipping it into bolts as you go. At the top are a set of anchors that you clip your rope into. When climbing, you always use a rope that is at least twice the distance to the anchors so that you can be lowered down when you finish. Alternatively, many times there is simply a way to walk down the other side of whatever rock formation you climbed up. Usually though, climbers are lowered by their rope since any gear they placed needs to be retrieved on the way down.
Some letter grades I feel are used if one section of a climb is harder. Not necessarily the whole thing. I’ve seen 5.9a and 5.9b used for climbs that the crux could be on a 5.10 but the rest is chill 🤷
wow it's really complicated, here in France it's a just number + letter and that's it, starting with 7 it's beginning to be hard, and you have a, b, c and d to specify a little more but that's it
I think it wouldve been reasonable if not just better to differentiate elite from another category like “world class” and have the break point be something like 5.15 and above
You know how the speed climbing route is standardized? Why not have everybody just agree on a standard route for every grade. Just as a reference point. Instead of being subjective, you'd now have something to actually measure against.
I think you have the classes below 5 wrong. Class 1 is flat walking. Class 2 is easy walking with some obstacles - like a nature trail that a wheelchair could access. Class 3 is more obstacles - like a mountain bike trail . Class 4 is like walking up a mountain trail. Class 5.0 -5.5 is scrambling or climbing that probably doesn’t require a rope.
*casual music and a calm voice over going on*
The background audio: AH UGHHHHH,
lmao
so anyways I was climbing the side of a cliff about a football field tall, and me being about the height of 15 cheeseburgers figured out that I can climb this in about the same time as a football could be thrown up by Tom Brady, but I forgot to factor the length of the slopes that have the curvature of a fruit by the foot. So if I have a rope the length of three whales and within time increments of a cookie deteriorating in milk I should be able to make this climb and receive a F in climbing grade and college grades mostly because everything I say doesn't make sense, yeah America
It's funny that I even understood this 🤣
America!!!!
Underrated comment
Why is this simpler than the metric system though
@@Architect16*Imperial. Metric is simple, it’s just powers of 10
This was very informative and entertaining. I also thoroughly enjoyed the beats.👍
Never new the jump from 5.9 to 5.10a to 5.10b we’re all meant to be the same! Very interesting
@Jean-Guy Rubberboot I'm in Calgary. How do I get experience in these?
Always felt the point numbers were logarithmic and the letters were linear. But subjective is the key word here
The Australian system is by far the most straightforward system.
It starts at 1 and goes up from there.
A 5.11 in Australia is aprx 23
Last part is true except when it comes to trad climbing😅 when I was climbing a lot I could on-site most of the 5.12 bolted routes I came across, but usually avoided anything over 5.9 trad if I could help it.
There is only two grades PE (piss easy) and FI (fucking impossible).
Words of my grandad who was a climber in the 60s and now me as a climber
Did you know V grade's initially were thought to be as such
V0, V1 any fit & able body can climb.
V2, is just a little bit more technical then V1.
And V3,V4 was for the people who spent time on bouldering, and getting good at strong moves compared to sports endurance. It was a shift in climbing culture ❤
I've been wondering about this. Thanks for the explanation
the crux in that video is insane!!!
I knew Adam Ondra was an alien now I know he’s not from here. Mean look at his neck lol! Thanks this explains it so simple😊
You are sooooooo good at climbing🎉
I just recently climbed my first 5.13 recently!!!! Gym 5.13 though
I aspire to be like you, just climbed my first 11a a few days ago
I've been climbing for a few years now, trust me, you'll get there. I started out climbing like 5.10a at the max
That could mean nothing. There’s a gym I’ve been to that had 13 on like a 12a
@@Alex-xz8vf 12a is still hard for me 😅
While gym ratings tend to be suuuuuper subjective, that's still awesome. Just got to an outdoor 10c this week.
These grades are also very different depending on what region you are climbing in. I’ll trad lead 5.10 in AL and 5.8 in NY. Also on what discipline. I’ll TR anything.
So educational thank you for that
That was really helped.
In whitewater paddling there’s a similar 5 class system but often people won’t say “that’s class 3” but instead say “that’s a c3”
In the southeast USA we say "class" 3, 4 or 5 almost always. I've not heard of "c" in whitewater unless it's pertaining to canoe.
C in climbing means clean aid, as in not using a hammer to drive metal into the rock.
@@warrengooch6538 I guess it’s just something I hear where I’m from, but yeah we also refer to different canoes as c1 or c2 and specify whether open boat or not
@@gavinn.4060 where are you from?
@@warrengooch6538 south ontario but I think it might actually just be a shorthand that developed with my friends, idk if it’s a common thing or not
@@gavinn.4060 makes sense
Well put
Dang that wall you're climbing looks fun! Where is that?
Came to ask this.
shelf road in Colorado
Any idea on what climb that is specifically?
Shelf road man!! Classic spot so fun
Good video
I max out at around 5.10c at my local gym they are very consistent inside the building but don't exactly match up local outdoor climbing.
This why British grades are the vast . You get clear difficulty and conditions of the route. The severity e.g(s,sv,e) and hardest move e.g(5+,6a,8b) and huger the severity the higher consistency of hard moves and the type conditions
The British grading system is even more confusing 😂
I believe there are 6 climbing grades, the 6th being aid
We use these in canada as well
Imagine when he gives you a strong hand shake 😱
I’m still confused
Numerically 5.1 is the same as 5.10, as well as 5.100000.
That's misreading the scale. 5.9 is not "five point nine" it's fifth class 9th 'grade'.
@@nelinno04 ah I see, thank you for clarifying
No. 1 super guy at shelf road is the route!
Is this #1 super guy at Shelf?
Hey man can you explain how u ever got into rock climbing cause these typa climbs are insane dude 👏🏽
I got sad nobody replied to you. You either have a friend that can take you out to the rocks and teach you, or you go to an indoor gym first, learn the basics and find friends there. Its easier to find friends in a bouldering gym as well.
Classes are better explained this way: 1. Walking 2. Walking uphill 3. Scrambling, hands may be required for balance 4. Consider a rope for protection 5. Rope and gear required for protection.
The highest I can do on a 50ft. wall in a rock climbing gym is a 5.8+ or 5.9- or 5.9 at and I’m 13 so I think that’s pretty good.
I actually didn’t know that here in the uk we normally use 3a - 9c
Not if you climb trad lol
@@tommiddleton3903 some people I know still use that grading system with trad
Only if your referring to the british tech part of the grade eg HVS 5a
@@tommiddleton3903 Yes that’s what I am referring to
Once you get above 5.11s I feel like general technique isnt enough on its own any more and at that point you really have to solve that specific route.
So is this a different system of measurement than the system that is used by climbers like Adam Ondra when he climbed a 9C ??
Yeah that's the french system which is more popular in europe. It's notable because it's used for both boulders and big walls.
Highest I’ve climbed is a 5.9, I was really close on some 5.10s (I don’t remember the letter) and I’m going climbing today, hoping I can get another chance at them
"based on subjective agreement" - that's objectivity.
I don’t understand how you would get down from a climb. When you get to the top what do you do, what if you get extremely tired or dehydrated, can you go back down?
There’s a trick:
Grab a handful of chalk and rub it all in your hair…close your left eye only, put one finger in one nostril (any finger…either nostril), cross your toes on both feet, call out “shalamama labooboobay” 5 times….close your eyes as tight as you can and click your heels three times….
When you opens your eyes….
…..you’re still stuck at the top.
So you man up…realize the situation…compartmentalize all that tired, sore, etc behind the task at hand….and get down.
Lol…sorry…you hike off the side or lower yourself back down with your rope.
Haven’t you ever hiked to an “overlook” or scenic area? That hike “to the top”, is a climber’s “walk-off”.
@@sendthis9480 you gotta be on that meth. I recognize the schizoid writing style
That other comment was insanely long and confusing, so I'll explain it. As you climb on lead, you take the rope up with you clipping it into bolts as you go. At the top are a set of anchors that you clip your rope into. When climbing, you always use a rope that is at least twice the distance to the anchors so that you can be lowered down when you finish. Alternatively, many times there is simply a way to walk down the other side of whatever rock formation you climbed up.
Usually though, climbers are lowered by their rope since any gear they placed needs to be retrieved on the way down.
Some letter grades I feel are used if one section of a climb is harder. Not necessarily the whole thing. I’ve seen 5.9a and 5.9b used for climbs that the crux could be on a 5.10 but the rest is chill 🤷
Having the rope lock up would scare me so bad
I'm always curious WHERE you're Climbing!
Shelf road, colorado
wow it's really complicated, here in France it's a just number + letter and that's it, starting with 7 it's beginning to be hard, and you have a, b, c and d to specify a little more but that's it
There is no "d" in the french system
I think it wouldve been reasonable if not just better to differentiate elite from another category like “world class” and have the break point be something like 5.15 and above
The British Ewbank system is much less confusing
So in terms of explanations, we have no explanations.
Lololol #1 Super Guy
Would ice climbing be graded in the as a 6.x system as it uses aid?
Sick roof! What’s the route?
If 5.10a - 5.10b is the same as 5.8 - 5.9, then why the hecking heck wouldn’t you just call it 5.10 - 5.11 ???????
In Britain it goes:
Easy
Moderate
Difficult
V difficult
Severe
V severe
E1 to E10
What happens if you fall while you're
thought it was like 8a 8b 8ab but i dont know much about climbing all i know is what a free solo flash and another teen but i forgot
In my gym we have pluses/minuses/flat like 5.13- or 5.9+ or 5.10
gotta love how instead of going from 10 to 11, 12 etc they were just like welp, let's do letters 😆
5.Gumby
5.Fun
5.Easy
5.FuckNo
Class 1 can still go uphill all the way. And can still get quite steep. See Mt Whitney.
Unholly 6th grade: spider jesus walking on space-tech grade polished overhang flat wall? :D
What happens if you find out it's too difficult. How do you get down
Your belayer just lowers you from your gear.
I’ve sent a handful of 14s and one 15 and there is definitely a steep increase from 14d to 15a 😂😂
Thats funny cos I have a friend who lowkey skipped 14d alltogether and just climbed 2 15a's. Now hes trying a 15b and still hasnt sent any 15a lmao.
is crazy...
I’m 11 and I climbed a 5 10 or 5 11
this exclusive to sport climbing. boulders are different
What are you climbing in this video?
You know how the speed climbing route is standardized? Why not have everybody just agree on a standard route for every grade. Just as a reference point. Instead of being subjective, you'd now have something to actually measure against.
Those sections are out of whack. Beginner should go until 5.10 at least. Intermediate to 5.12 advanced to 13d and expert above that
Metahumanos: Ondra... Honnold.... Sharma.... Megos... Verhoeven.... Y una mano más..... Los demás son seres humanos normales jajajaja
Best I have ever climbed was in a gym and it was a 5 10
Dude is this shelf road? I just realized that it looked like it 😂
Number one super guy
Is this the roof line at Duncan’s ridge?
what grade are you climbing in the video?
What happens if you have to use the bathroom
looks like shelf road
or is it mexico
Is this Crab Nation at Shelf?
Isn’t this the “Yosemite rating scale”? Different than the European rating scale?
Do you grade your sport and trad the same?
Age 10 I climbed a 5.10b
I think you have the classes below 5 wrong. Class 1 is flat walking.
Class 2 is easy walking with some obstacles - like a nature trail that a wheelchair could access.
Class 3 is more obstacles - like a mountain bike trail .
Class 4 is like walking up a mountain trail. Class 5.0 -5.5 is scrambling or climbing that probably doesn’t require a rope.
What about V’s
And how do you know how the rock is hollow
Shelf?
Just use the french method
Are climbing grades based on the highest grade move you have to do on a section of the climb?
yes
the hardest move but with the correct beta
onsite can be way harder if u miss the best holds or don't have the best beta for your body
No, its always the accumulative effort of power, power endurance and endurance, taking into account rests as well.
To be fair the European climbing grades arent any easier and get way more confusing when you add bouldering.
I climbed a 5.17 in 14 minutes using a pickle and a tiny- ehem.. average rope.
Class 2 isn’t non exposed scrambling
What class are you in
Why not trust your anchor swing like a pendulum to get up faster
I'm a lucky European 😁
Aren’t you scared that the rocks might fall?
Me who was scared to clmb a 5.2
🤘
I though it only went up to a 5.15
Whay is your graid?
Never heard of a 5.16 I’m guessing at that point everyone just uses the french system
The best and clearest
Alex doesn't wear rope
What happens if if a rock breaks you were holding onto
The rock falls down and depending on if your holding onto anything else you might fall as well, But the rope should catch you
You scream "rock" and hope your belayer is safely out of it's path
the rock will fall down
@@Nico-tm5lf And you may or may not go with it for at least part of the way, depending on how well you are holding on with the other hand and feet.
??? He’s using a rope.
meanwhile the rest of the world uses the french system
What's the most difficult grade you have climbed?
I think he has a 12c