My dream is one that starts normal and then folds out twice to an inner 16:9 bigger screen to make it like a tablet. That resolution would also finally make use of the entire screen to watch videos. Besides reading, I don't see a use for a folding phone until that comes along.
It really does look better and "right" compared to the Galaxy Fold. I love that the camera isn't a step down from a flagship, but on par with the top of the line. So good.
Honestly, it's great to see Samsung get some damn good competition in this space. Samsung now has more motivation to improve the Folds design, either by going with Oppos or Vivos design elements, and that's a win for us consumers
한국인들 r too quiet for their own good and 외국인들은 참 답답해. U'd think a tech reviewer'd know... 1. The Chinese were prosecuted for stealing the original Fold's bendable tech, which were sold to 2 Chinese phone companies. 2. Oppo's teardrop hinge isn't new. It was one of the preliminary designs Samsung rejected due to long-term durability issue. 3. Lol, there's a reason why 🇰🇷 beat China (1.9 billion more than Koreans) in the Chinese intelligence game called, Go (18 yrs in a role). There's a great TH-cam documentary called, AlphaGo (31 million views so far) about the match 😋
Would love a citation for any of that. I find particularly laughable the notion that the teardrop fold was rejected for durability reasons, as Samsung display failures are commonly reported in places like r/GalaxyFold and r/GalaxyFlip, while the same can't be said of devices like the Find N or RAZR (whose manufacturer Motorola originally introduced that folding design, as I've said many times. Not sure why you're implying that I said Oppo was first to anything.) Always happy to learn more so I can include relevant info in my coverage, but Korea-vs-China axe grinding doesn't meet the threshold of relevancy. Feel free to share some links.
You can get around the aggressive battery life extender option by going into the battery settings for the apps, and make sure it doesn't go to sleep. Notifications will then come through. Huawei phones do this by default, so I got used to changing those settings.
I don't think that will work for all apps. He said no matter what he does he still can't get notifications in GMail for instance, which was exactly my experience when I had an Oppo phone. And I live in a region where Oppos and Vivos are officially sold.
Good review. Have been enjoying my Vivo X Fold..love the outer display, the cameras and the class leading 8 " inner display. No issues with notifications but did require a simple tweek....even saw another video where it can connect to a MacBook (phone mirroring) android to Mac pretty cool....again thanks for the vid.
@@shalahmadi In the app settings under "data usage" you have to set it to allow background data and under "battery usage" you have to allow background activity for all the apps you want to receive immediate notifications for.
I just picked up the s22 ultra a few days ago. Came from note 10 plus. I love foldable, more so rollables. I'm just waiting a bit longer for the tech to mature.
Idk man. That Oppo Find N still has my heart just because of that sweet spot of size it hit. I love it. It's great to see Vivo and Oppo bringing real competition to Samsung after lukewarm showing from Xiaomi and just a sad show with Huawei because of the software (I'm not even going to mention Microsoft because they're not the same class of devices). Wish they launched it worldwide to spice up the game
@@Sithhy it seems like the custom roms will come 2ith widespread adoption. I have some hopes that Android 12L could make work spread across vendors more easily
As far as I'm aware, only Xiaomi and OnePlus devices seem to have an abundance of custom ROMs. The Chinese brands Vivo, Oppo and Meizu unfortunately aren't known for unlockable bootloaders and thus no custom ROM support.
Excellent video. If this had Samsungs software, s pen support and was optimised for my region I would be very tempted to try it. Hoping that Samsung can show some improvements with it's next fold.
I love what other companies, like Vivo, are doing. It got kinda boring with everything coming down to Samsung and Apple (and them using that fact to sell pretty much same phones year after year, even removing stuff like expandable memory and chargers)
It's bcos they don't have any threatening competitors pushing them to rectify and do what's right. So all they do is give u the same old everything. But props to Samsung for being atleast innovative as they only do the same iteration for atmost 2 yrs b4 giving u something new unlike apple who will give u the same thing for 3 to 4 yrs.
Samsung used to be creative and different. They have realized that if they just copy apple, they don't actually have to do any work for the dumb sheeple market
@@HomiebeaR_ and what sucks about the mini is it's getting discontinued next year so the one positive thing I have to say about apple is now gone aswell
Great explanation on the pros and cons of importing this phone. Usually reviewers give these imports a stamp of approval knowing they come with lots of issues. I'm hopeful OnePlus will make a foldable comparable to the Find N.
One thing I keep noticing, most of your videos are in high quality resolution and in 60fps. Please continue to keep them like this! It's one of the main reasons I stay tuned
He's right about the busted notifications. I've had 2 non brand androids before and they were awful at not showing notifications in real time. It was frustrating af
I find myself using my X Fold more than my Z Fold 3, and while I do miss 5G a lot when driving around town, I just can't get over the outer display. It's so usable when I don't need to use the inner screen. I really do hope that the Z Fold 4 makes the outer display similar in aspect ratio as the X Fold.
Oh absolutely, and I just hope Samsung doesn’t take this lying down. Competition is catching up and in some cases surpassing Samsung in some aspects of the folding game. Conversely I’d love to see Vivo realize that they’ve created a fantastic foldable for their first generation and seriously consider a proper global release with more refined software and some design tweaks.
Rewatching this video made me realize that we NEED more competition in US foldables. Seeing the Fold 4/Flip 4 has made me realize that Samsung isn't going to aggressively innovate simply because there's no need for them to do so. They can keep releasing iterative upgrades without improving things like the crease/cameras and still get tons of sales, simply because they're the only option. If this device was in the US, it would almost definitely be my "dream phone" so to speak. I'd love to try foldables right now, but the flip isn't the form factor for me, and the fold still sadly has the crease.
After a month and a half on my fold 4 it's a refinement but a sorely needed one over my fold 3. Samsung 100% needs more competition, and I don't get the insistence of having a do-it-Everything phone that also has to be thin and light but will never be as thin and light as a standard phone. Id prefer like a fold ultra that leans into the thickness and heaviness and gives us a truly all day battery excellent cameras and all the top class features. If Samsung wants to keep the same design for the fold 5 drop the price to like $1,400 and introduce a fold ultra at $1,800 with more.
Vivo phones are actually sold here in New Zealand (along with many other Chinese phones), though I'm not sure if we'll get this one, but as good as it looks, I'm just not a fan of Chinese phones in general. Privacy and security issues aside, the software is always tailored in a way that doesn't suit power users, such as the extreme throttling of background processes. I suppose, if nothing else, it at least adds some competition to the market which we sorely need right now.
This was a great review! I would seriously buy this phone. I was debating foldable but always felt they were never fully baked. The Vivo looks like that next crucial step and I’m intrigued.
PLEASE DO AN UPDATE ON THE VIVO X FOLD 3 PRO!!! They nailed it this time!!! Wireless charging, IPX8 water resistance, and 100w charging!! I would LOVE to hear your thoughts!
Thanks for being the Private Detective who scans the marketplace for cool fun foldable phones and tech gadgets. I sit in my armchair while you do the research and bring colorful results to my screen. Thanks. I prefer the ZFlip3 but fear where it's heading. It is losing the original sleek form factor for battery to push out units IMO.
We absolutely need a Galaxy Z Fold 4 Ultra!! I've been saying it for awhile now!! If Samsung doesn't release a larger version of the Z Fold 4, I'll most likely get an imported Vivo X Fold!!
Folding phones are king in my eyes, I'm the proud owner of a Z fold 3, Razr 5G and original Z Flip. Can't wait to get my hands on the Z fold 4 and whatever the Next Razr is, whenever it is....
3:15 1. Guess what the 1st gen Galaxy Fold has in common with the Huawei Mate X2 and Vivo X Fold?? The outer displays are all 21:9 aspect ratio. 2. Most people including myself hate the outer narrow aspect ratio of the Z Fold series. They want a Note-sized phablet phone while folded shut. HOWEVER, Samsung has demonstrated since the live stream demo of the 1st gen Galaxy Fold that their INTENDED VISION is for the outer display to be used ONE-HANDED for quick tasks. Too many people still don't comprehend that the outer display ISN'T meant to be used two-handed. Galaxy Flex S is what I'm waiting for. It looks to be what a foldable phone SHOULD BE.
That is your opinion and Samsung's, but the majority of us understand that foldable tablet/phones like this are mainly meant for two-handed use, due to weight, heft and safety (not to drop). So that is IMHO a mistake and a flawed ideal. It is clear that every other foldable has gone with a wider front display as that is what consumers, when asked, want. The only reason the Fold has been selling issue to a near monopoly, if the Find N, this VIVO and Huawei were globally available the Fold would only sell to hardcore Samsung fans.
@@andyH_England I never said I like the outer aspect ratio of the Z Fold series. I absolutely hate it. That doesn't change the fact that Samsung's current vision is for the outer display to be used ONE-HANDED whether you or I like it or not. That's all.
I honestly expected the cameras to be the deal breaker 😲 I'm genuinely surprised they give the Samsung cameras a run for their money. Well done Vivo! Now bring this to America please!
Michael, I am hoping you will revisit this review at some point in the near future. I imported the Vivo X Fold to Canada and was able to overcome pretty much all the gripes raised in your video. The notifications being the biggest issue, but there are a few more settings to enable which have allowed me to get my Notifications delivered instantaneously and display on the lock screen. There is also a great guide by Greggles TV which outlines how to replace the default launcher. I have had no issues with 5G in my City, even with using Videotron as my WSP which is not nearly as prevalent as some of the other big names.
That's such a huge praise from Mr. Mobile himself! So proud of Vivo. Their X80 series also looks impressive with their cameras~ At least we have other options than Samsung and Huawei.
Thank you, Mr. Fisher, for reinforcing the idea that the vivo X Fold is hands-down the current best foldable available. It might not be in a few months, but still, it is a stunning, very capable foldable offering from vivo. A little bit of software tweaks and global release would give Samsung a run for their money. The X Fold is just that good. 🔥
Wow, that is high praise! My biggest issue with the galaxy fold 3 is the cameras which are very important to me. If they get galaxy s22 ultra level cameras on the fold 4 I think it'd be enough to get me to upgrade
It still won't fix the garbage outer and inner aspect ratios of the Z Fold 2, 3, and 4. It's embarrassing how the S22 Ultra (or any standard slab smartphone) can see more content during web browsing, gaming, and watching movies vs the inner display of EVERY non-clamshell foldable phone in existence. Galaxy Flex S looks to be what a foldable phone SHOULD BE. 👍
@@tiadaid It's not that they can't. They're simply choosing not to at least for the time being. My guess is they're worried about adding more weight and extra thickness.
Steps to set up communication apps instant notification for VIVO new mobiles: 1. go to i-manager 2. app manager 3. permission management 4. whatsapp 5. single-permission setting set all permission must be "on" 1. i-manager 2. utility tools 3. battery management 4. background power consumption management 5. whatsapp 6. turn on "high background power usage" long press on whatsapp icon, go to app info, turn on all notifications
Yeah but (and I'd love to be wrong about this) I couldn't find a mode that would disable the main display while enabling the camera preview on the cover screen. That's crucial for holding the phone without inadvertent taps on the inner screen.
This phone looks so good! I wish Samsung would copy some things from it. A Fold 4 with this aspect ratio screens plus the camera system from the S22 Ultra would be awesome.
You nailed it! I own the Galaxy Fold 3 and bought the Vivo X Fold to try it out. The no go were for sure the persistent issues with the notifications and other software problems. What none of the reviewers speak about in comparison to the Galaxy are the haptics. They are so much better on the Samsung. The general inside screen typing experience is superior to the Vivo. Also what I haven't heard on the reviews is that the Samsungs outer screen gets a lot brighter in direct sunlight. Earpiece sound quality I would also give to the Fold 3.
Wow! Mr.Mobile saying he would have chosen the Vivo to the Fold 3 given a couple of tweaks, says a lot! I do believe that several other manufacturers do so many things right, perhaps even better than Sammy. But the integration needed for seamless usage in USA is only present in Samsung. It'd be great if the Chinese manufacturers made their phones more usable in USA. Competition is good and will keep Samsung in check. Don't want Samsung to get complacent, like Apple 😆😉
After having bad experiences with my OnePlus 8 Pro, and seeing that the X Fold has its own stupid "custom skin" on top of Android, unfortunately I wouldn't be able to justify purchasing either it or the Samsung. Really hoping Google comes out with a stock Android folding phone by the time I'm ready to upgrade from my Pixel 6 Pro.
Google would have to work quite hard on it to make it good. These manufacturers have been working on their end for years to enhance user experience because Google didn't do it.
Missing notifications Is something I experienced when using the mate 40 pro as well with Google loaded up. But I got used to the quit until I checked it and it saved alot more on battery.
and then when few years down the line Samsung's innovation tanks people will complain we don't see new things in phones these days We don't have options. It's Samsung and Apple all the time
It looks like the store you bought it from was listening, they raised the price to be closer to the Samsung Fold 3. Checking around puts these 2 at about the same price. Still, I like it and would love to have one for N Armerica.
Easy fix for notifications (go to battery and turn off optimisations and then notifications and set up all notifications as on for the apps you want to receive in real time)
Finally a western review on an Eastern device that actually mentions the limitations of apps, notifications etc of eastern devices. Thank you, Mr. Mobile.
Spot on review and I agree with you! I'd love to have something like this in the US. I wanted to love the Fold 3. I had it for a few months. I wanted to keep it. But in the end I went back to a slab as I was using the outer display 90% of the time and it just was such a weird aspect ratio and just too narrow. Take the S22 Ultra and double it up and I'd LOVE that! Yes, it would be a hefty phone, but...
The solution to Vivo X Fold notifications has 3 parts. Most solutions don't involve part 3: 1) settings -> battery -> battery power consumption management. This impacts whether your get your notifications immediately or delayed. Set to "high battery usage" for messages, Whatsapp, etc. 2) settings -> notifications -> app notification management. Make sure notifications are turned on for each app. Pretty obvious. 3) settings -> apps and permissions -> permission management Select an app you aren't getting notifications for, click "all permissions" and turn on "Auto start". This is key! Apparently without Auto start on it seems that apps can only be started if you manually open them, and therefore will only get notifications if you've manually opened them. This settings allows the app to turn on on its own to check for new notifications.
the camera space on the back is so beautiful goddamn. I've gotten to used to tolerating ugly camera lens blocks in recent years from samsung and I'm finally sick of it
Phenomenal review as always Mr. Mobile I know the market here in the US isn't kind to Huawei but I'd love to hear your take on the mate xs 2 and the outward foldable design. Be easy fam. 🙏🏾
Michael, totally unrelated to the video but I visited the Montauk Lighthouse and Camp Hero after learning more about them from your videos. And I wasn't disappointed one bit- I loved the historic lighthouse, pristine Atlantic coast and the spookiness of Camp Hero. Thank you so much for striking the inspiration in me to travel from DC to the Eastern edge of New York.
I must say, I'm not really interested much with foldables but this looks really good in this video. If I have the money and the bootloader is unlockable, I'd probably get this.
It's good to see competition in foldable phones but we need to start getting them in the u.s. to have more choice over here. It would be nice if a Chinese brand would make it's way into the u.s. market ..
Awesome to see you review this phone. Great video, great review. My only issue with Vivo phones is they don’t play nice with 3rd party launchers. I’d love to buy the X Note and just slap Lawnchair Launcher on it and call it a day.
many great phones wont see us retail. the main reason i have heard from a manufacturer is "We don't want to be like others and get banned. Less money is still more than no money"
My vivo fold phone works great and so far no problems on notifications. For those who is planning to buy this phone the battery is a bit on the low side for heavy media usage. Another thing is that you can use the rear camera to take selfies while using the front screen as a viewfinder, how dope is that?
Good to see vivo is stepping it up with their X series..they are doing great eversince they made the partnership with Zeis..Samsung has better experience in foldables though but Vivo got it right the 1st time (for now)..the only question now is, service centers and availablity (both unit and parts), if they plan to release it globally.
Well guys.... I have the phone in the US, the device does work on TMobile and does get 5g. You have to set it up but once you do... It's really really good
I hope Samsung's taking notes for the Z FOLD 5 and Concept G/S. Height is not the issue, it's width and many people want a normal sized phone that can turn into a tablet, not a mini-tablet that turns into a funky aspect smaller phone. Also it doesn't hurt to offer BOTH larger internal and expandable storage, seeing how these foldable devices can perform double duties as phones and tablets.
Remember guys, you CAN change the stock Vivo launcher to any other one you download. Just did it myself. Just search 'vivo x fold launcher change' on YT. Its a few steps but easy and works.
I wish I worked a job where a foldable phone wouldn't break within the week. I work with a lot of silica. And that sand would probably destroy the inner screen pretty easy sitting in my pocket. My current phone has all sorts of micro scratched on the glass screen protector from it.
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Nice to see a folding phone that starts as a normal phone that gets bigger.
That's the dream!
exactly. unlike samsung’s
idk it's enormous
Finally
My dream is one that starts normal and then folds out twice to an inner 16:9 bigger screen to make it like a tablet. That resolution would also finally make use of the entire screen to watch videos. Besides reading, I don't see a use for a folding phone until that comes along.
I love the look of this fold phone. This is the first time I genuinely like the look of a folding phone and the screen crease doesn't seem so bad.
Exactly. First time a folding phone genuinely looks good even if it wasn't a folding phone.
The Fold's crease is big, but really don't notice it when you use it.
@@SyedTauhidul the mate x2 is still the nicest looking foldable
is good fold phone for tmobile 5g is really fast
It really does look better and "right" compared to the Galaxy Fold. I love that the camera isn't a step down from a flagship, but on par with the top of the line. So good.
Honestly, it's great to see Samsung get some damn good competition in this space. Samsung now has more motivation to improve the Folds design, either by going with Oppos or Vivos design elements, and that's a win for us consumers
@@Metamine0 Vive fold and Huawei mate x2 fold best design cause of the wilder screen and 8-inch inner screen
It's still too narrow
한국인들 r too quiet for their own good and 외국인들은 참 답답해. U'd think a tech reviewer'd know...
1. The Chinese were prosecuted for stealing the original Fold's bendable tech, which were sold to 2 Chinese phone companies.
2. Oppo's teardrop hinge isn't new. It was one of the preliminary designs Samsung rejected due to long-term durability issue.
3. Lol, there's a reason why 🇰🇷 beat China (1.9 billion more than Koreans) in the Chinese intelligence game called, Go (18 yrs in a role). There's a great TH-cam documentary called, AlphaGo (31 million views so far) about the match 😋
Would love a citation for any of that. I find particularly laughable the notion that the teardrop fold was rejected for durability reasons, as Samsung display failures are commonly reported in places like r/GalaxyFold and r/GalaxyFlip, while the same can't be said of devices like the Find N or RAZR (whose manufacturer Motorola originally introduced that folding design, as I've said many times. Not sure why you're implying that I said Oppo was first to anything.)
Always happy to learn more so I can include relevant info in my coverage, but Korea-vs-China axe grinding doesn't meet the threshold of relevancy. Feel free to share some links.
Ever since your departure from PocketNow I've watched every episode you've ever made. You are the most consistent tech reviewer I've ever seen.
"Hey guys it's Brandon Miminumum"
You can get around the aggressive battery life extender option by going into the battery settings for the apps, and make sure it doesn't go to sleep. Notifications will then come through. Huawei phones do this by default, so I got used to changing those settings.
I don't think that will work for all apps. He said no matter what he does he still can't get notifications in GMail for instance, which was exactly my experience when I had an Oppo phone. And I live in a region where Oppos and Vivos are officially sold.
@@rafalg87 yeah it does, just disable the battery manager for it in the app options. I only buy Chinese phones, so very familiar with this.
Do you use this in the US?
@@robcarlton2341 I live in Cambodia. But don't see how that's relevant as this works on all networks.
Excellent video as usual! I really want to try this.
Good review. Have been enjoying my Vivo X Fold..love the outer display, the cameras and the class leading 8 " inner display. No issues with notifications but did require a simple tweek....even saw another video where it can connect to a MacBook (phone mirroring) android to Mac pretty cool....again thanks for the vid.
Hi,can you pinch to zoom to get full screen on TH-cam app on the X Fold? Because my can't :(
What's the simple tweak?
What tweak?
@@shalahmadi In the app settings under "data usage" you have to set it to allow background data and under "battery usage" you have to allow background activity for all the apps you want to receive immediate notifications for.
@@lemster101 Thanks alot
I just picked up the s22 ultra a few days ago. Came from note 10 plus. I love foldable, more so rollables. I'm just waiting a bit longer for the tech to mature.
I may consider upgrading to a foldable from my S22 ultra when it's time for an upgrade. That could be the Z fold 6 or 7.
I'm sitting on a note20, waiting to see what happens with the Fold this year, if not I'll hold off another year.
@@december1to31 still on my OnePlus 7 Pro. I hope the Fold 4 is amazing cause I'm ready for an upgrade.
@@Farquad76.547 Thanks but im an android lover through and through
I am rocking an S10+ I scored a deal on back towards the middle of last year and I must say.... my next phone might just be the Moto Razr V3 foldable
This is what I want from a foldable, a 'normal' smartphone that can fold out to double its screen real estate.
Idk man. That Oppo Find N still has my heart just because of that sweet spot of size it hit. I love it. It's great to see Vivo and Oppo bringing real competition to Samsung after lukewarm showing from Xiaomi and just a sad show with Huawei because of the software (I'm not even going to mention Microsoft because they're not the same class of devices). Wish they launched it worldwide to spice up the game
I hope custom roms eventually come to foldables, since China has been making some great devices.
So far it seems that only the Z Fold 3 has a custom ROM available, but even then, it's just a modified stock ROM
@@Sithhy it seems like the custom roms will come 2ith widespread adoption. I have some hopes that Android 12L could make work spread across vendors more easily
As far as I'm aware, only Xiaomi and OnePlus devices seem to have an abundance of custom ROMs. The Chinese brands Vivo, Oppo and Meizu unfortunately aren't known for unlockable bootloaders and thus no custom ROM support.
@@DogeFrom2014 I've been hoping for a Xaomi Mix Fold Custom ROM, but nothings came out for them either.
@@DogeFrom2014 oppo nowadays sucks for custom rom, Find 5 and 7 combined with Oppo N1 and N3 were the best oppo for custom rom tinkerers
Excellent video. If this had Samsungs software, s pen support and was optimised for my region I would be very tempted to try it. Hoping that Samsung can show some improvements with it's next fold.
I love what other companies, like Vivo, are doing. It got kinda boring with everything coming down to Samsung and Apple (and them using that fact to sell pretty much same phones year after year, even removing stuff like expandable memory and chargers)
It's bcos they don't have any threatening competitors pushing them to rectify and do what's right. So all they do is give u the same old everything. But props to Samsung for being atleast innovative as they only do the same iteration for atmost 2 yrs b4 giving u something new unlike apple who will give u the same thing for 3 to 4 yrs.
Samsung used to be creative and different. They have realized that if they just copy apple, they don't actually have to do any work for the dumb sheeple market
Samsung pushed for the foldables though it's definitely no Apple.
@@HomiebeaR_ The only thing apple has that Samsung doesn't is a phone that can actually fit in your hand properly, the iphone 13 mini.
@@HomiebeaR_ and what sucks about the mini is it's getting discontinued next year so the one positive thing I have to say about apple is now gone aswell
Great explanation on the pros and cons of importing this phone. Usually reviewers give these imports a stamp of approval knowing they come with lots of issues. I'm hopeful OnePlus will make a foldable comparable to the Find N.
One thing I keep noticing, most of your videos are in high quality resolution and in 60fps. Please continue to keep them like this! It's one of the main reasons I stay tuned
I've been using this phone for 2 weeks now on TMobile and everything is working fine. The Gmail, apps, notifications, so far so good my friend.
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He's right about the busted notifications. I've had 2 non brand androids before and they were awful at not showing notifications in real time. It was frustrating af
I find myself using my X Fold more than my Z Fold 3, and while I do miss 5G a lot when driving around town, I just can't get over the outer display. It's so usable when I don't need to use the inner screen. I really do hope that the Z Fold 4 makes the outer display similar in aspect ratio as the X Fold.
Agreed. Like I said in the outro, it feels like Vivo beat Samsung to a "Galaxy Fold Ultra."
Oh absolutely, and I just hope Samsung doesn’t take this lying down. Competition is catching up and in some cases surpassing Samsung in some aspects of the folding game.
Conversely I’d love to see Vivo realize that they’ve created a fantastic foldable for their first generation and seriously consider a proper global release with more refined software and some design tweaks.
Hi,can you pinch to zoom on TH-cam app to get full screen on X Fold? Because my can't
I think there was a leak that showed it will be bigger (fold 4), somewhat comparable to the X fold.
Damn you rich person
Rewatching this video made me realize that we NEED more competition in US foldables. Seeing the Fold 4/Flip 4 has made me realize that Samsung isn't going to aggressively innovate simply because there's no need for them to do so. They can keep releasing iterative upgrades without improving things like the crease/cameras and still get tons of sales, simply because they're the only option.
If this device was in the US, it would almost definitely be my "dream phone" so to speak. I'd love to try foldables right now, but the flip isn't the form factor for me, and the fold still sadly has the crease.
After a month and a half on my fold 4 it's a refinement but a sorely needed one over my fold 3. Samsung 100% needs more competition, and I don't get the insistence of having a do-it-Everything phone that also has to be thin and light but will never be as thin and light as a standard phone. Id prefer like a fold ultra that leans into the thickness and heaviness and gives us a truly all day battery excellent cameras and all the top class features. If Samsung wants to keep the same design for the fold 5 drop the price to like $1,400 and introduce a fold ultra at $1,800 with more.
And now we have the Fold 5...
Vivo phones are actually sold here in New Zealand (along with many other Chinese phones), though I'm not sure if we'll get this one, but as good as it looks, I'm just not a fan of Chinese phones in general. Privacy and security issues aside, the software is always tailored in a way that doesn't suit power users, such as the extreme throttling of background processes.
I suppose, if nothing else, it at least adds some competition to the market which we sorely need right now.
I am, again, watching a review of a phone, in a million times, I couldn't afford.🤣
This was a great review! I would seriously buy this phone. I was debating foldable but always felt they were never fully baked. The Vivo looks like that next crucial step and I’m intrigued.
If it wasn't for the not quite fully baked software I'd be in the same boat as you. Hardware they definitely got right here
PLEASE DO AN UPDATE ON THE VIVO X FOLD 3 PRO!!! They nailed it this time!!! Wireless charging, IPX8 water resistance, and 100w charging!!
I would LOVE to hear your thoughts!
I love my Z Fold 3 but I'm excited for the version that will have a nearly standard size front display when closed. Until then it's voice text.
Always appreciate when you randomly say my name in videos.
Seems like a good opportunity for them to rebrand it as a OnePlus for the North American market.
Thanks for being the Private Detective who scans the marketplace for cool fun foldable phones and tech gadgets. I sit in my armchair while you do the research and bring colorful results to my screen. Thanks. I prefer the ZFlip3 but fear where it's heading. It is losing the original sleek form factor for battery to push out units IMO.
We absolutely need a Galaxy Z Fold 4 Ultra!! I've been saying it for awhile now!! If Samsung doesn't release a larger version of the Z Fold 4, I'll most likely get an imported Vivo X Fold!!
Dang dude, you almost shorted out your Phased Array Emitter spilling that drink.
Folding phones are king in my eyes, I'm the proud owner of a Z fold 3, Razr 5G and original Z Flip. Can't wait to get my hands on the Z fold 4 and whatever the Next Razr is, whenever it is....
I prefer the razr over the z flip, but only because of the larger outer display when closed, on every other front the z flip has the advantage
You really focus often on the crucial parts with reviews, and comparisons are great as well.
3:15
1. Guess what the 1st gen Galaxy Fold has in common with the Huawei Mate X2 and Vivo X Fold?? The outer displays are all 21:9 aspect ratio.
2. Most people including myself hate the outer narrow aspect ratio of the Z Fold series. They want a Note-sized phablet phone while folded shut.
HOWEVER, Samsung has demonstrated since the live stream demo of the 1st gen Galaxy Fold that their INTENDED VISION is for the outer display to be used ONE-HANDED for quick tasks.
Too many people still don't comprehend that the outer display ISN'T meant to be used two-handed.
Galaxy Flex S is what I'm waiting for. It looks to be what a foldable phone SHOULD BE.
That is your opinion and Samsung's, but the majority of us understand that foldable tablet/phones like this are mainly meant for two-handed use, due to weight, heft and safety (not to drop). So that is IMHO a mistake and a flawed ideal. It is clear that every other foldable has gone with a wider front display as that is what consumers, when asked, want. The only reason the Fold has been selling issue to a near monopoly, if the Find N, this VIVO and Huawei were globally available the Fold would only sell to hardcore Samsung fans.
Great, so let's all do what we're told, and gobble it up.
NAH
@@andyH_England I never said I like the outer aspect ratio of the Z Fold series. I absolutely hate it.
That doesn't change the fact that Samsung's current vision is for the outer display to be used ONE-HANDED whether you or I like it or not.
That's all.
@@IrenMasot Nice try. Learn to comprehend what I wrote.
Delighted to have missed this upload. Always great contact.
I honestly expected the cameras to be the deal breaker 😲 I'm genuinely surprised they give the Samsung cameras a run for their money. Well done Vivo! Now bring this to America please!
Michael, I am hoping you will revisit this review at some point in the near future. I imported the Vivo X Fold to Canada and was able to overcome pretty much all the gripes raised in your video. The notifications being the biggest issue, but there are a few more settings to enable which have allowed me to get my Notifications delivered instantaneously and display on the lock screen. There is also a great guide by Greggles TV which outlines how to replace the default launcher. I have had no issues with 5G in my City, even with using Videotron as my WSP which is not nearly as prevalent as some of the other big names.
Samsung did not put in flagship cameras to save money. Once there is more competition, it will be forced to install them
And raise the price...
@@GreenBlueWalkthrough with competition, they won't be able too
That's such a huge praise from Mr. Mobile himself! So proud of Vivo. Their X80 series also looks impressive with their cameras~ At least we have other options than Samsung and Huawei.
Such beautiful sensible phones and not available in the US Market??? Why??????? We need more options like this.... Love your reviews!!!
Vivo is slowly getting to title the best phone for mobile photography.
Quality paired with good auto mode and one of the best manual controls.
Thank you, Mr. Fisher, for reinforcing the idea that the vivo X Fold is hands-down the current best foldable available. It might not be in a few months, but still, it is a stunning, very capable foldable offering from vivo. A little bit of software tweaks and global release would give Samsung a run for their money. The X Fold is just that good. 🔥
Makes my google pixel 6 look like it's lagging behind. This is a very high-quality foldable phone
Wow, that is high praise! My biggest issue with the galaxy fold 3 is the cameras which are very important to me. If they get galaxy s22 ultra level cameras on the fold 4 I think it'd be enough to get me to upgrade
Same. Not sure why they can't offer the Ultra's camera on the Fold.
It still won't fix the garbage outer and inner aspect ratios of the Z Fold 2, 3, and 4.
It's embarrassing how the S22 Ultra (or any standard slab smartphone) can see more content during web browsing, gaming, and watching movies vs the inner display of EVERY non-clamshell foldable phone in existence.
Galaxy Flex S looks to be what a foldable phone SHOULD BE. 👍
@@tiadaid It's not that they can't. They're simply choosing not to at least for the time being. My guess is they're worried about adding more weight and extra thickness.
Steps to set up communication apps instant notification for VIVO new mobiles:
1. go to i-manager
2. app manager
3. permission management
4. whatsapp
5. single-permission setting
set all permission must be "on"
1. i-manager
2. utility tools
3. battery management
4. background power consumption management
5. whatsapp
6. turn on "high background power usage"
long press on whatsapp icon, go to app info, turn on all notifications
The X Fold also does main camera 📸 selfie mode with the flip icon on the camera 🤳 app.
Yeah but (and I'd love to be wrong about this) I couldn't find a mode that would disable the main display while enabling the camera preview on the cover screen. That's crucial for holding the phone without inadvertent taps on the inner screen.
This phone looks so good! I wish Samsung would copy some things from it. A Fold 4 with this aspect ratio screens plus the camera system from the S22 Ultra would be awesome.
Ikr
You nailed it! I own the Galaxy Fold 3 and bought the Vivo X Fold to try it out. The no go were for sure the persistent issues with the notifications and other software problems. What none of the reviewers speak about in comparison to the Galaxy are the haptics. They are so much better on the Samsung. The general inside screen typing experience is superior to the Vivo. Also what I haven't heard on the reviews is that the Samsungs outer screen gets a lot brighter in direct sunlight. Earpiece sound quality I would also give to the Fold 3.
This makes me feel like we’re really getting the shaft here in the States when it comes to phones.
10:37. Imo the best compliment this Vivo Fold can get.
Yeah took them long enough to come out with a foldable, but it was worth the wait! 👍🏾
Point to mention side finger print sensor on the side comes into play on protective cases especially the Spigen with the side mounted spen.
What weather widget was that? Thanks!
weawow
@@TheMrMobile could you link the wallpaper as well? Thanks!
@@sushimshah2896 Sorry, no time to dig them up - but they're always from Backdrops or Wallrox (both avail on the Play Store).
@@TheMrMobile OH WOW, thanks for reply!! 👍🏻🙏🏻
Love that you included the shot at 5:46! Layne Staley and Mad Season forever!
Wow! Mr.Mobile saying he would have chosen the Vivo to the Fold 3 given a couple of tweaks, says a lot!
I do believe that several other manufacturers do so many things right, perhaps even better than Sammy. But the integration needed for seamless usage in USA is only present in Samsung.
It'd be great if the Chinese manufacturers made their phones more usable in USA. Competition is good and will keep Samsung in check. Don't want Samsung to get complacent, like Apple 😆😉
the notifications issue is due to the battery saver auto applied to apps, you can change this on a per app basis.
I would never put my SIM card in a Chinese phone!
BOO! CCP 🤣
As i said in other comment, This phone only makes sense when it comes out globally.
The global software doesn't have Spyware and chinese apps.
@@nou8419 Yeah sure... Keep telling yourself that!
@@alla3enalrasmi498 I told the truth.
Ah well i forgot you're another racist...
Yeah just let the Americans steal your data and info for companies over here. But the Chinese oh my
5:46 Layne! What a legend. What a song!
After having bad experiences with my OnePlus 8 Pro, and seeing that the X Fold has its own stupid "custom skin" on top of Android, unfortunately I wouldn't be able to justify purchasing either it or the Samsung. Really hoping Google comes out with a stock Android folding phone by the time I'm ready to upgrade from my Pixel 6 Pro.
Google would have to work quite hard on it to make it good. These manufacturers have been working on their end for years to enhance user experience because Google didn't do it.
Missing notifications Is something I experienced when using the mate 40 pro as well with Google loaded up. But I got used to the quit until I checked it and it saved alot more on battery.
I would still buy Samsung >>>
For software features, ecosystem, long term support (security + functions) and Spen + water resistance...
+ lots of Microsoft integrations. Bill Gates was on Reddit a week ago and he said he uses a Z Fold 3 of all things.
No question, Samsung is the better option from a practical standpoint. But on the hardware front, Vivo is really bringing the heat!
@@TheMrMobile I agree, this one does seem better in a lot of places, and competition is always good !
Love your videos !
and then when few years down the line Samsung's innovation tanks people will complain we don't see new things in phones these days
We don't have options. It's Samsung and Apple all the time
"...You're gonna miss notifications no matter what"
I see this as an added bonus!
Samsung needs to take notes. This front display is the perfect size. Doesn’t look all thin and lanky
"Beautiful piece of mobile machinery" I like this line😲😮🔥🔥🔥🔥🇵🇭
It looks like the store you bought it from was listening, they raised the price to be closer to the Samsung Fold 3. Checking around puts these 2 at about the same price. Still, I like it and would love to have one for N Armerica.
Easy fix for notifications (go to battery and turn off optimisations and then notifications and set up all notifications as on for the apps you want to receive in real time)
One thing we need to understand is a narrow fold is easier to make a stronger hinge and more durable
Finally a western review on an Eastern device that actually mentions the limitations of apps, notifications etc of eastern devices. Thank you, Mr. Mobile.
Spot on review and I agree with you! I'd love to have something like this in the US. I wanted to love the Fold 3. I had it for a few months. I wanted to keep it. But in the end I went back to a slab as I was using the outer display 90% of the time and it just was such a weird aspect ratio and just too narrow. Take the S22 Ultra and double it up and I'd LOVE that! Yes, it would be a hefty phone, but...
So I'm rocking a flip 4 because of mr mobile.... I love these reviews. I hope foldable are the future.
I can't wait to get one of these foldables at the right price in the future.
The solution to Vivo X Fold notifications has 3 parts. Most solutions don't involve part 3:
1) settings -> battery -> battery power consumption management.
This impacts whether your get your notifications immediately or delayed. Set to "high battery usage" for messages, Whatsapp, etc.
2) settings -> notifications -> app notification management.
Make sure notifications are turned on for each app. Pretty obvious.
3) settings -> apps and permissions -> permission management
Select an app you aren't getting notifications for, click "all permissions" and turn on "Auto start". This is key! Apparently without Auto start on it seems that apps can only be started if you manually open them, and therefore will only get notifications if you've manually opened them. This settings allows the app to turn on on its own to check for new notifications.
Now we are waiting the Fold 4, announced with smaller crease, better cameras and different display ratio. No worries, Mr Mobile
the camera space on the back is so beautiful goddamn. I've gotten to used to tolerating ugly camera lens blocks in recent years from samsung and I'm finally sick of it
I know this video is 2 months old but if this phone has updated software like Google, Facebook etc and sold to the U.S. HELL YEAH I'LL BUY IT !
Phenomenal review as always Mr. Mobile
I know the market here in the US isn't kind to Huawei but I'd love to hear your take on the mate xs 2 and the outward foldable design. Be easy fam. 🙏🏾
Michael, totally unrelated to the video but I visited the Montauk Lighthouse and Camp Hero after learning more about them from your videos. And I wasn't disappointed one bit- I loved the historic lighthouse, pristine Atlantic coast and the spookiness of Camp Hero.
Thank you so much for striking the inspiration in me to travel from DC to the Eastern edge of New York.
So glad to hear you visited and enjoyed! It's a very special place.
@@TheMrMobile Indeed! ;)
Vivo couls use this video as advertisement. Top notch review, with the correct weightage given to different aspects.
The presentation of the videos always gives me goosebumps. perfectly shot and edited!!
Where is reflectivity of the screen on the vevo is so much better
I must say, I'm not really interested much with foldables but this looks really good in this video.
If I have the money and the bootloader is unlockable, I'd probably get this.
When iPhone release foldable, you know it’s gonna become somethin common
How this guy has 1.8 m followers only he does such good work. He deserve more
It's good to see competition in foldable phones but we need to start getting them in the u.s. to have more choice over here. It would be nice if a Chinese brand would make it's way into the u.s. market ..
Awesome to see you review this phone. Great video, great review. My only issue with Vivo phones is they don’t play nice with 3rd party launchers. I’d love to buy the X Note and just slap Lawnchair Launcher on it and call it a day.
many great phones wont see us retail. the main reason i have heard from a manufacturer is "We don't want to be like others and get banned. Less money is still more than no money"
Thanks for this meaningful review of a phone not available in your region. It really helps us in other countries where it is available.
Wow, the camera video quality it captures is insane!!!!
My vivo fold phone works great and so far no problems on notifications. For those who is planning to buy this phone the battery is a bit on the low side for heavy media usage. Another thing is that you can use the rear camera to take selfies while using the front screen as a viewfinder, how dope is that?
U get notifications on time for WhatsApp, Gmail etc?
Good to see vivo is stepping it up with their X series..they are doing great eversince they made the partnership with Zeis..Samsung has better experience in foldables though but Vivo got it right the 1st time (for now)..the only question now is, service centers and availablity (both unit and parts), if they plan to release it globally.
Well guys.... I have the phone in the US, the device does work on TMobile and does get 5g. You have to set it up but once you do... It's really really good
I hope Samsung's taking notes for the Z FOLD 5 and Concept G/S.
Height is not the issue, it's width and many people want a normal sized phone that can turn into a tablet, not a mini-tablet that turns into a funky aspect smaller phone.
Also it doesn't hurt to offer BOTH larger internal and expandable storage, seeing how these foldable devices can perform double duties as phones and tablets.
My x fold will be here on Tuesday, can't wait!
Remember guys, you CAN change the stock Vivo launcher to any other one you download. Just did it myself. Just search 'vivo x fold launcher change' on YT. Its a few steps but easy and works.
10:34 Severance is an amazing show. Glad you like it too!
I find watching Mr mobile videos relaxing
Love the casual Phaser!
I love how it closes flat and kinda snaps closed a bit closer than the Fold 3. 👍🏽
There's something about that sound design that just strikes me with nostalgia.
Mr .Mobile...FINALLY!!!!
ive been harping on you to review this monster! Great stuff
I wish I worked a job where a foldable phone wouldn't break within the week. I work with a lot of silica. And that sand would probably destroy the inner screen pretty easy sitting in my pocket. My current phone has all sorts of micro scratched on the glass screen protector from it.