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I worked for Valve a long time ago on Day of Defeat and they responded to us level designers the same as Linus describes how they responded to his (and others) issues. They really are a great company. It's Gabe Newell more than anything else. When he leaves, I hope his spirit remains.
Any reason why Richard Galdreich always bad mouth valve?. Like few years back he said Valve is killing PC Gaming.
@@ZeroOne130 pretty sure valve saved PC gaming without valve PC gaming wouldn't be nearly as good as it is
@@ZeroOne130 Yeah, making things like Proton open source, basing SteamOS on open software and actually letting users do what they want with it, having an open source non-steam app for configuring the steam controller, and not-requiring DRM on their storefront/service are not PC gaming-killing moves. I can think of plenty of moves made by the others that actually do harm consumers + gaming.
@@ZeroOne130 Because he is a scamming snide PoS who is trying to bring down the best CEO and company in gaming out of spite, why would we care what some random trash less than human thinks though, no idea why you even bothered to bring that up?
Can I just say, thank you so much for Day of Defeat, I spent countless hours as a teen on day of defeat!!
I spend most of my time at home, too, but I've for so long wanted to be able to play some of my PC games in bed, and this is the perfect solution to that. Plus, with this I should be able to just bring it into the living room to play local coop games with my sister on the TV, instead of dealing with in-home streaming which has been a bit problematic for me.
Step sister i'm stuck in the game can you help me get off
In-home streaming with Moonlight works flawlessly
@@madkvideo do you need good wifi tho
@@madkvideo I've used Moonlight before and it is good, but still not flawless. Like Steam's streaming, it often gets confused by my multiple monitors. In general it's just best if you can avoid streaming all together.
@@The_MEMEphis Yeah, but I only use it with ethernet.
I retired ~12 years ago and see several doctors. I may get a Steam Deck to play offline in waiting rooms. I think the $399.00 model with a microSD card would be enough.
Sounds awesome!
I'd say go for it. I think the tier 1 $400 model is underrated and will be a great option.
Do keep in mind that the fan is very noisy in my experience. It will be fine on public transport but in a quiet waiting room you will annoy people around you.
@@ArchonCommando Do we really know how loud the fan in the Steam Deck is? What is your experience with the Steam Deck fan?
@@yobama5288 No, not yet.
I hope Steam Deck become a success, valve deserves it.
it's also fkn cool, i'm not much of a gamer but it's seriously making me think about getting one
Your wish came true,It became a success
@@agustinvenegas5238 why wud u get one if ur not a gamer lmao spend the money on something u actually enjoy
valve ? you mean their customers yes ?
for real, Steam Deck is the most amazing console to come to date for tech enthusiasts, the fact that it's hackable out-of-box just puts it above it's competitors (even though it's a PC handheld)
Linus waiving that Steam Deck around aggressively with one hand had me SWEATING.
As if Linus has ever dropped anything.
Well if he was more careful we wouldn't have any drop compilations, now would we?
@@ddegn imagine
He never dropped anything in his life, no need to worry chief
welcome to the world of Linux development
things change insanely fast. I had a bug with my system that was produced, and fixed later in an update less than 24hrs
also true with Factorio lol
And yet yall couldn't game on Linux till Valve did it isnt it?
@@MethmalDhananjaya gaming on Linux was good before proton. Wine, lutris, and community support was always amazing on linux. But proton has definitely improved the linux experience. Even proton is based on wine
@@MethmalDhananjaya
Because most devs developed games for window usage
@@MethmalDhananjaya dude I remember playing Portal on Ubuntu back in 2010
Valve has always been very open with their audience and accepting of criticisms other hardware and software devs would shy back from. Point of interest - Streaming to the steam deck is fine but using the computer to setup (ie installing the game, booting the PC if its off ect) would be cheating. You should be able to control your PC's steam install from the deck.
Good point, but if a game is already installed on the computer does that count? I accidently find myself gaming across different computers purely by accident. I have an older laptop hooked up to my TV and I find myself sometimes streaming from my other computer to that one without realizing I don't have the game installed on the TV computer.
You can stream in desktop mode... which is basically rdp/vnc.
You have been able to control pc installs on steam remotely for a very long time.
How can you control the PCs Steam install from the Deck if the PC is off?
YOu can't do that? Strange because I have some control over my PC's Steam installs from Steamlink already.
I applied at valve about six months ago and they take the ownership part very seriously. They have an empty position that just says “tell us what you can bring to the company” or something like that so that you can just apply with an idea that you have and are passionate about
What did you say?
And if it's still possible universal trophies and saves would be nice.
That’s like most job applications lol
@@rockino2562 Most companies offer a specific position with specific requirements, so no that's not true.
@@Zeverinsen yes exactly, they will ask this question in the context of the job. It's pretty common indeed
His description of Nintendo is by definition japanese culture.
Yup, I thought the same.
Valve is known for delivering multiple patches all the time. As a Dota2 player, sometimes you have to close the game to update every match. Then it goes to one to two patches per day. Sometimes it's a patch to patch the bug made by the patch that patched a previous patch.
Yeah, as a TF2 player, I've also experienced this, oh wait... :(
@@latslarsson2001 *sad pyro noises*
@@latslarsson2001 gotta say in the old days, my tf2 was always fucken updating
meanwhile in lol most champions still have tons of bugs since their release, multiple even unfixable because of spaghetti (for example illaoi w)
and a ton of things are inconsistent for example a champion called riven gets balanced around animation cancelling while other champions get their animation cancels fixed
Regarding the fast update cycle, it's important to consider that unlike other "firmware", SteamOS consists of many different parts developed by different teams all across the world. Even just Proton itself is a collection of several projects developed and updated independently - some with Valve's involvement, most without. More than 1800 individual developers contributed to Proton over the last 28 years. And the open source nature of the thing means that there are always individuals working on bits and bops they personally care about, that ultimately benefit the whole project in some way, but would probably never be high priority in a centralized development model.
It also comes with the drawback of some code being incompatible with other code. I imagine we may get a coconut.jpeg situation with some of the code due to that nature.
OBS already works on Linux too. The streaming crowd has a new toy to play with.
Obs has worked on linux for years....
@@prydzen afaik, it was not with feature parity with the windows version. @draeh is probably talking about the recently released official flatpak which iron out a ton of bugs and offers identical features to the windows version
After Q2 2022 doesn't sound so bad
My buddy forgetting a certain country being invaded might cause WW3 in the coming weeks...
@@DingleFlop nah just give Putin a steam deck, then he'll calm down
I love how, a year later, most of these issues have been either addressed or completely fixed in a way.
It just shows Valve's commitment to their customers.
@@Nova2127UI don't even think it's mostly a commitment to their customers, I think it's just commitment to this product, to this idea, to the fact that the only thing that valve was missing to be a complete platform was a physical hardware product that directly interfaces with their store.
The only thing that remains is you can't download games or updates with the screen in standby mode.
I've used steam voice chat for years, other than the occasional issue it's actually pretty fantastic, really convenient because the steam overlay is already there and works well with all the games on steam
For years I just issues with it where I would hear myself. It didn't matter who I was talking too. About 2 years or so that seemed to go away
@@derekfurst6233 Odd, never had that issue, I've been using it since about 2015, remember having a month or two where the calls kept dropping at one point, but that just sorted itself out. It's been way more reliable for me than discord or teamspeak, weird how these things are different from person to person.
Sometimes when Discord is playing up, I’ll just switch to using the Steam voice calls and it’s honestly pretty good. Volume is sometimes better and I bet when used in big picture or SteamOS it’ll be integrated pretty well
this is because discord just has absolutely terrible linux support ngl, screensharing audio for some reason does not work at all and they havent fixed it for years and theres a whole array of other backend issues to do with it being just an alternate version of chromium
@@azzzertyy Discord screenshare audio does work… if you switch the sink being captured by Discord. I still don’t know why Discord won’t patch this, it’s tedious manually setting up two sinks to be captured at the same time.
Steam voicechat is actually REALLY GOOD. It doesent require ooening another app AND it very rarely has audio issues unlike Discord
Valve essentially did the reverse of Sega. They are a 3rd party developer that has now become a console manufacturer.
This is a great time to be a gamer. I have my reservation for a steam deck and can't wait to dive in and explore what I can do with it.
30% cut on steam is only until some number of games sold. I can't remember the numbers but it's 30, then something (18?) , then 12% so on par with epic. Basically if your game is just a tiny project nobody knows of it's 30%, mild success is in the teens of % which for me is good enough, steam is just the best platform, and then the big games pay 12%. Actually the smaller games might rise in popularity a little because of the steam deck.
over 50 mil it goes down to 20%
@@thereisnospace thats plain wrong
@@MrFearlesskiller source?
@@MrFearlesskiller "That will remain the case for the first $10 million in sales a game maker or publisher earns. For all sales between $10 million and $50 million, the split goes to 25 percent. And for every sale after the initial $50 million, Steam will take just a 20 percent cut."
shops such as supermarkets, discounters, etc usually have a 30% cut for all of their products
You can really tell that the decision makers at valve REALLY believed in this product, and that they could do it well, in a way that would change the game. They put all their eggs in this basket, it was pretty damn risky tbh. But it paid off in spades
Steam voice chat has been around forever! Me and my friends used that during school while we'd play TF2 and what not. Once Discord came around, it was way easier to use that cause then if Steam goes down for one user but Discord doesn't, we could still talk on vc.
What I find remarkable is Valve’s commitment to hardware development. I have primarily thought of them as a software company, game developer & portal for buying other peoples games. Sure there’s been the Steam controller, Steam link, Valve Index, but those were mostly niche products. With the Steam Deck they’re going head on into mass consumer electronics. The competition now is Nintendo, Sony & XBox, but with the confidence that they have differentiated themselves sufficiently to succeed in the marketplace. So far the sales are confirming their bet. Bravo!
That's a stark difference from how I usually look at things like Windows updates and updates on my Samsung products because I fully expect some piece of hardware on my PC to not function correctly or my Samsung device to now have less battery life or worse performance as they have been known to do an updates before just so they can sell us more stuff.
Oh and steam chat is the main reason why I got my origin games to run through steam so we can use the chat function because it was so much better.
On my Linux systems I look forward to the updates.
Occasionally some annoying quirk gets fixed, a theme gets a new colourway, hardware I use gets better support, ect.
The only thing that actually mildly broke systems is older Ubuntu distro upgrades, but even that left the system totally usable.
I'm not afraid to upgrade my rolling release desktop, while I rather not touch Android or Windows updates.
The main difference is open source vs closed source.
Look at all the USELESS features companies like google, facebook and microsoft add to their product, like youtube removing dislikes or moving the description for no reason?
Its because theyre trying to please shareholders with random actions no one wants showing them that theyre actually working on stuff when its nothing of substance.
Open source is different because, well, why fix whats not broken? why waste anyones time doing something that will only make the software worse/different?
Theres no point, no incentive to do anything like that, the incentive is to be efficient as possible while ensuring the product is liked and fills its needs.
That sleep and wakeup speed reminds me of my old PSP. I remember being in complete AWE at the fact that I could sleep the system and pick up again right where I was.
As time goes on, I’m finding I have very specific ideas of which games I’d prefer handheld vs mobile device vs mouse and keyboard. And if the game is on PC instead of my preference, I don’t play it. I am so excited to get into games I never have previously only because I want to play them from my bed.
Straight up. I have all platforms too. Waiting til after Q2 on the steam deck though.
The Steam Deck demonstrates how Nintendo missed the boat on a lot of things.
Huh? Nintendo is a company garnered towards children. Their target demographic is 8 to 12 year olds (not a knock, go read Nintendo's mission statement). Nintendo is a closed ecosystem in which you must buy their hardware to play their software. They make dedicated software for their hardware on top of third party games. Nintendo is valued at $95 billion vs Valve's $12 billion. The switch alone has sold more than 103 million units. Steam only has 120 million users (that includes dead/double accounts). Nintendo hasn't missed the boat on anything gaming related since the late '80s early '90s lol. They know exactly what they're doing. What people don't seem to understand is that Nintendo does not compete with Valve, Sony, or Microsoft. Same way as horror movies don't directly compete with children's films. Same medium, different category.
@@pwd1134 nintendo is successful, yes. but theyre still BAD
@@hawshimagical They never said Nintendo wasn't. They're only saying that Nintendo knows exactly what they're doing.
@@pwd1134 well, that is the point. They targeted a younger demographic meaning they don’t need upgrades or improve their system much as (mostly) parents are the one who make the choice and the switch would be first option. They can’t really be competitive if they aren’t at all to begin with.
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What I really like about the Steam Deck is that I can pick up and go, so like play on my desktop PC, finish with that and pick up on the go on the Steam Deck, for me I don't think that's ever been done before and mainly because of the games library being the same on the PC and the Steam Deck, all other mobile platforms tend to have it where you have to buy the game again, assuming the game is even on both platforms, with the Deck, that's not an issue, the library is the same at home and on the Deck.
Longer term it gets even better, imagine as the Steam Deck 2 and 3 are released, unlike other consoles where you tend to start with nothing, the Steam Deck you have access to all the games you've bought on the first Deck or on the PC and better yet, unlike consoles where when you get a remaster, they tend to charge you for it, as new Decks are released with better specs, most games are enhanced for it because of how games are designed to scale on the PC, it's like getting a remaster of a lot of games as the hardware specs get better with each Steam Decks and it's free.
In value terms, the Steam Deck wipes the floor with other platforms and longer term that could be more the case as you take your library with you as you upgrade.
With that said, there are a few things Valve needs to work on, the polish of SteamOS, ease of use, especially with auto config settings for games to appeal to console gamers and they also need to get most games to just work on it, if they do all that, the Steam Deck could be a game changer for PC and console gamers.
That is a REALLY underrated feature of having this thing. Having your steam library on the go in such a portable form factor is already amazing - and then adding on top of that the ability to retain progress between your PC and Deck via cloud save, down to the exact moment in time you quit playing? And just pick up and go whenever you want? That's going to be next level
Nothing new
@@awatenokochi4855 The closest thing we've had to it in the past is remote play, and that feature would still be much worse than how it works with the Steam Deck even had Sony not killed the Vita.
@@ComputerFreak1144 All these benefits will become more apparent to gamers as the Deck, 2, 3 and 4 are released, your games go with you without having to keep buying them or buying a remaster unless it's a real remaster with a lot of effort done to it.
Nintendo does this a lot where they want you to keep buying the same game over and over again as they change consoles, that's where the Deck is much better at this.
@@paul1979uk2000 True the value/cost of each Deck hardware wise maybe great but offset long term in value and a software library to retain customers this is a very different approach. This is different way of doing business good them and for us customers.
Steam Remote Play is awesome on PC as well. I've used it to play reaction-based games like Duck Game across an entire state and it was perfectly playable. I have no idea what Valve did.
howd you remote play on different networks didn't know u could do dat
@@JyleByle I think if the computer is on and has already been connected once it just lets you do it?
@@plexyglass429 yeah pretty sure it just hops to your network to connect. I tried testing it once with mobile data on mobile. WiFi went out of range, streaming froze up obviously. Data went on, started up again. You could literally play as long as you have the connection speeds at both ends. There was a guy that streams occasionally on twitch playing Hoi4 Multiplayer with his friends. On his friends streams he makes it clear he's going to chipotle, about 30 minutes later things start happening on the nation he's playing and he confirmed he was using steam link in Chipotle with a mouse hooked into his phone.
Waiting for Steam Controller 2.0 tbh since this does seem to have a great feedback from everyone while people hated change with the Steam Controller. Unless Steam Deck handles the dual stage trigger setup for Steam Controller configs rly well (doubt it though since it's analog triggers), may also wait for Steam Deck 2.0 with Dual Stage Triggers. Another thing to consider is a dual PC streaming setup, hoping that this will be able to be captured from a capture card so I can just use the Steam Deck as a controller or my normal way to play then capture it thru my Elgato to my main rig.
Are they gonna actually make another controller though because the first one was discontinued along time ago now I think if they were gonna make another one they would of already abd they wouldn't of discontinued the previous one
@@The_MEMEphis I'm sure it was discontinued for this in particular. Since this is getting way more popular and better reviews from others, they might.
@@The_MEMEphis it was discontinued due to a patent issue. They maintained support for it and were manufacturing new controllers for as long as they possibly could, and once people stopped seeing it as 'this controller is supposed to be for everyone as an xbox controller replacement' it got a big and very passionate following. It's a very good piece of hardware.
I'd love to see what a second gen would look like, I still have an unopened controller incase my main one dies.
@@The_MEMEphis It could be a nice companion with the dock
I said it on your "The Steam Deck Is Incomplete" video, and I'll say it again here.
Dust off your old NexDock Touch from your "This Laptop Is From The FUTURE" ShortCircuit video, hook the cable up to your Steam Deck, and turn it into a freaking fully featured Linux laptop.
With some battery weirdness, but hey, laptop.
I guarantee it's called the Deck because, during development, they were "all hands on deck" and that just carried over when the naming decision came around.
....so that's where TF2's development team went...
Or it's an analogy. You take the deck with you. You are a ship, the deck is the deck of the ship in relation to your gaming library. So in a gaming sense it is the deck, where all your games can work as you move around the world wherever your feet can take you.
As a Linux gamer, I felt like I had no choice but to pre order the steam deck. Valve have been behind *so* many of the improvements to Linux gaming, it has gone from most games being slow and/or incompatible to the exact opposite in only a few years. I want the deck to do well so as to encourage developers to support the platform more. I just hope Valve can make enough units. I have friends still trying to get a PS5 a year after launch, I hope valve don't have the same supply issues and have a massive wave of them coming.
At least it won't get scalped to nearly the same degree.
Aside from a few squabbles, I think Valve is one of the few gaming corporations that deserves its highly rated status among gamers, and like many others have mentioned, I think a lot of that boils down to Gabe Newell. Gave and Valve have always had what’s best for gamers in mind. I have the utmost respect for what Valve has done for the industry and what they continue to do.
Verge is dunking on it trying to nitpick every software issue just for media drama saying "it's a mess, wait till there's a whole new one" instead of just saying "it's not perfect, wait for a few updates if you want".
Seriously? I guess we shouldn't expect people who think zip ties are tweezers to know what a SOFTWARE UPDATE is. *facepalm* (yes, I know the PC build drama was resolved, but still, yikes)
Several media outlets are also freaking out about the battery cause it doesn't always get 8 hours saying "it could die in 90 minutes!". I mean, if you abuse it yeah it will but otherwise...no.
Gabe needs to give them a personal whooping.
It's arch BTW, of course it's a rolling release!
@BlackWorm but not waiting for other packages so they can release all in one go at a scheduled time.
Released when they're ready. Not later, not earlier, but precisely when they're meant to be. Like a wizard.
my brother is moving out for college soon and he is stealing our computer that we have been sharing for 5-6 years, so i have bassically come to the conclusion that i should get a steam deck and daily drive it
@Linden Reaper Like, get an used and cheap laptop, slap it with SSD if it comes with HDD, and install Linux on it? Sounds good for daily driving if all I do is watching/listening media, browsing, and processing documents on it, but probably not that good for gaming.
When Valve put their mind on it(or resources), they're probably one of the best dev in the whole world at listening to feedback. Then you got situation like TF2, Csgo, and Dota 2 competitive situation.
The thing is that the Steam Deck is only the first step. Other companies, ESPECIALLY Microsoft, need to be afraid.
I think being free from Microsoft was also their reason to choose Linux instead of Windows
@@tarakivu8861 It still has Windows so I doubt Microsoft will care.
@@MN-jw7mm Unless you go out of your way to install Windows onn it, it doesn't come with windows.
Why Microsoft needs to be afraid? Microsoft would end up as the biggest third party developer, if they pull out games on steam, imagine what would happen?
@@prodj.mixapeofficial6431 Microsoft needs to be afraid because PC gaming is half the reason their OS is still alive. Once the Steam Deck shows Linux to be outperforming Windows, performance wise, gamers are going to switch. Even if only 20% of gamers switched to Linux, imagine the level of panic Microsoft will have. Let’s not forget that when Valve announced their intents to support Linux, Microsoft employees showed up at Valve headquarters the next day.
With the emergence of Windows 11, the increased requirements for PC hardware is nothing insignificant. Linux only requires a fraction to run.
My point is that if Valve can make Linux, at the very least for gaming, a viable option, people are going to switch. It won’t be all at once. May start as 5%, 10%, then 20%, etc. Lots of people switch to a Linux OS for a lot of different reasons; but they all eventually came to the same conclusion; they don’t like Windows and wouldn’t use it “if they could play games”. A lot of Linux users, today, would love to abandon Windows, but games. Put game compatibility into the Linux experience and watch the number of people changing.
I'm getting this primarily for emulation purposes; I just recently set up custom firmware on my 3DS and it's a wonderful experience having a bunch of old favorite games on hand at a moment's notice. Unfortunately it struggles with N64 games and anything beyond that is simply impossible on the hardware; that's where Steam Deck comes in!
There’s a lot better handheld emulation machines. But hey, i love the steam deck. I hope you use it for PC games though
@@SkinnyMuscles69 I have a decent steam library but my interest is still primarily with emulation. Do you know of any other emulation handheld that can run GC, Wii and PS2 games with no issues at a similar price point of the Deck? Most emulator handhelds I've seen are super cheap and meant for 16 bit consoles and not much more
@@SkinnyMuscles69 there's no better handheld for emulation than the deck, it is not ridiculously expensive and can emulate up to the switch and some PS3 games.
I wish you'd included the remote play thing in the review, that's a BIG selling point for me
When the goals for the Steam Deck day 1 launch was announced, I knew that they were some lofty goals. I figured they wouldn't reach all of the goals, because a lot of it is in the hands of another company (i.e. game devs and game publishers working with Valve on their anti-cheat). So, to that end, I thought the SD would wind up being considered a bust. However, it looks like they (as individuals and as a company) really do care about what they're trying to accomplish with the SD.
Also, I have another perspective when it comes to games. You will never be able to play X console on Y console. With the SD, on the other hand, it sounds like Valve/Steam aren't just going to throw their hands up and stop at wherever the current playable games state is. Which means that games that aren't playable, or are barely playable, will hopefully be very playable at some point.
Depending on how well SD does, I'm sure they're will be other iterations in the years to come. However, that's just dealing with the hardware side of things. Games are something where the state of playability (SoP) can evolve and change over the coarse of time. Even if we're into an era of SD Gen 3, the SoP of games will still be changing, making the current SD relevant for years to come. Other consoles are only relevant until maybe a year into their successors release.
There is a page that will list what games in your library work with the steam deck, but yeah a general page where you can check an individual game and see, regardless of whether you already own it would be nice.
I can relate with Luke. If only I have money to spend for this, I'd buy one even if I'm not into portable gaming.
It's so interesting and I like and believe with what it means for gaming and electronics devices.
And I'd probably use it a lot for the first few months. I always have the strange urge to hold the new devices I buy.
I just bought a Steam controller and I've been using it even just for navigating my desktop :D
how did you manage to get a steam controller in 2022 man. I'm jealous
@@johngregory9021 Just luck I guess given that it's very rare in my country considering it was never released here officially. It's 2nd hand but seems to work good.
@@AninoNiKugi that's just funny lol. I looked it up on ebay in the united states a couple of weeks ago and they were all 200 second hand. I hope it's fun though!
If you weren't buying a steam controller for basically useless purposes maybe you would have the money for one ;) Tbh you wouldnt even get it for another year if you did have the money though so its all good man.
19:04 Once I was trying to get my Twitch data but the email wouldn't come to confirm, even trying for multiple days. I noticed that the page belonged to OneTrust, not Twitch, so I decided to email them and explained the problem. I got a response *one hour later*, saying that they're on it. I got an update the next day that they're still working on it, then that they've fixed it the following day. It felt so amazing to not only get a response so quickly but also to get a more technical person to respond and not get just a generic response. The day after they told me they deployed a fix in the next update, I got an email from their privacy team that they don't have a record of my request and forwarded my request to Twitch (although I had no issues at that point to make a request). I haven't had a lot of great experience reporting issues to support before so it was great, though it might had something to do with them having corporate customers but I certainly wasn't one of them.
4:16 Steam remote has been working amazing from some time now.. I have a cheap android tv box and i use it there.. Works so well! And it's free!
I played games on Steam for years, from the first time I booted up Half-Life 2 in 2005 (2006?) to going into the COVID pandemic early 2020. Later that year, I kept being tempted by the Switch since its launch, but just didn't see the feasibility since it seemed so limiting with horsepower while on a totally separate marketplace, until finally I just bought a Switch Lite. Haven't been on Steam nearly as much since, portable gaming with a robust enough experience is where it's at. Now, with the Steam Deck...I may be tempted back again, depending on when one is available. But I can't argue, Valve has jumped into the breach.
Did you guys see that Gabe Newell was seen hand delivering some?
it's a year later, i boot it up almost daily, and there's still an update almost every second time i boot the steamdeck up
I don't work a job anymore that I play games during downtime but having one of these at home when my main PC is a hassle or I'm just wanting to kick back and play an indie game (which is often) would be amazing, let alone how highly versatile it is for other things. Problem is I also could really use a laptop but yeah lol. Eventually a Steam Deck (or Deck 2?) Will be in my future.
Good stuff all around! What a time to be alive! Thanks for the insightful analysis!
Honestly, I just want to see their VR standalone headset already.
The cooler thing is, and i doubt linus is going to recognize this immediately, but the SteamDeck is literally the next big step towards a standalone headset. Compact, powerful, portable, modular code, hints in code of parallel and dual compute units utilized to balance the load requirements for VR......the steamdeck as is probably couldn't do vr well if at all, BUT THE VISION.....totally is there, i'd be STUNNED if that wasn't some level of what valve is working on
@@SlegiarDryke Yeah I'm sure it wouldn't be too difficult to design something where you can carry the Steam Deck on your waist and attach a VR headset to it. Obviously the Steam Deck in its current iteration is nowhere near powerful enough to handle VR but maybe that's what they're aiming for.
@@SlegiarDryke I dno, if you see what Facebook is doing with the snapdragon mobile chip I think this AMD APU could blow it out of the water. Ofcourse software is the main issue here. Think full on PCVR might be asking a bit much so valve would have to invest in making games for their mobile vr platform kind of like Facebook did with the quest.
@@ninetailedfox579121 Wait the steam deck remote link from the PC the PC is doing all the work the deck is just being a relay to the VR that may work.
I love my switch, also have a ps5 now. One thing that really makes me consider the steam deck, is that out of all companies, when you upgrade hardware, you're whole library follows. That is HUGE.
christ. as a pc gamer i never even considered that. jesus christ consoles have come so far but are still so behind in some places. like in what universe have they not started syncing libraries between console generations.
Remote has been really good, started about right before remote play together was launched.
Have you tried Aperture Desk Job? It's a free game Valve released as something you can use to test controls on your steam deck. I played it on my Linux machine and it worked great for me, but it's probably better on the steam deck since it has been optimized for it. It was awesome, but it was only 30 minutes long :(
lowkey, happy im apart of the Q2 crowd so that a lot of things will be more polished and the library will grow
I wanna give it a shot and review it from the viewpoint of a game developer whenever we can get them in Australia
I was waiting for this clip to come on and it did just after I resigned myself and played the whole WAN show while cleaning the house xD
We need a discussion how much the situation has improved.
Very excited that this is being received so well. Not that we have it here in Australia yet but Im stuck on whether to adopt early and support valve or wait for most firmware and hardware upgrades. Emulation and storage space is a big one for me.
Im also hopping game mods are still supported like on windows. Would be nice to keep playing modded fnv and ff8.
@@hashimrahman51 didn't age well, now you can buy one directrly without reservations
5:10 the switch only needs 3 presses....
19:39 Hey are we just gonna ignore that bossmode pun right there?
Hot springs? Did you go to the Scandanavian spa in Whistler? Loved that place after 3 days of skiing.
In all fairness, those wrinkles are likely to be ironed out by the time that you can actually buy one.
In all fairness a product is reviewed on what it is not what it might one day become. Not that I don't trust Valve but it makes sense to review a product for what it is so consumers will know what they get out of the box.
Encodeing and Decoding to 720 - 800 p is significantly less demanding than 1080p or higher, so it makes sense that the Deck is great as a streaming client.
Here's an idea for a steam deck app. A controller app for home automation and robots. Imagine pausing a game and checking the cameras on your home, turning off the lights....
No need to even get out of bed lol.
I don't see an issue with remote play, as much as I would love to natively play games on the device, some games may not run at all or run poorly due to hardware limitations. But being able to play games remotely off my beefy PC is 100% valid. The fact that even the PS3 supported remote play for some titles for the PSP isn't new. You can remote play your PC games to your cellphone. So, I'm all for remote play on the Steam Deck if there is a game that won't play or run 100% and you have the internet connection to do so. I'm curious how much battery I can extend the device just playing via remote play.
Ordered mine this week. I'm hyped.
im wishing i would have reserved mine much sooner, so that id already be on the way to having one. but im in the "after q2" queue and i plan on keeping my reservation. ive never been big into mobile gaming, never had the Wii U, never had a switch, dont game on my phone, but this excites me. the fact its basically a full on PC in your hands, has me excited. and as a Windows user, the potential to install windows really intrigues me, which is something i may very well end up doing with my Steam Deck. we shall see, but im excited no doubt.
On the other hand, you can look at the extra wait as "when I get the Steam Deck a lot of its initial bugs and problems will be ironed out."
@@IsmailofeRegime that's a fair point. However I usually don't mind being on the bleeding edge and will accept some bugs along the way if I know they'll be fixed. But yea, the fewer bugs the better.
In some countries apps like discord, what's app ect do not work so we used to have to use steam voice to make calls out of those countries
10:55 yup, that's Valve all right
I can get why Linus isn't willing to do so but I do wonder how a 1 month linux challenge would be different if he actually was using Linux when at work. Presumably most of the stuff he does at work of reading documents and what not could be done on Linux without too much changes.
That would end up in LTT bankruptcy.
I love Linux, but obviously switching from Windows to a Linux distro _for work_ while still being tied to proprietary software is a terrible idea.
@@ReptilianLepton Exactly! As much as I love LibreOffice, I couldn't use it for a job application a few years ago. When the other party opens it in MS Office, it looks like garbage. Has been a problem with OpenOffice as well. Has been a problem since forever.
@@ReptilianLepton as far as I feel like he mentioned when they did the Linux challenge he seemed to indicate that his work computers outside the demos for videos is just word documents and responding to emails. If LibreOffice and the other Linux native word processors don't work he could always just use the browser version of Microsoft Office
@@CheapBastard1988 wps and onlyoffice good compatibility, onlyoffice is also foss
Save it as pdf. Wtf are you doing sending word documents??????
So annoyed my order that got fully processed within 30 seconds of reservations going live didn't snag me a launch unit...
im just here after buying a steam deck yesterday, now just learning all i can till it arrives and so far the reviews and the games i see being played on it is amazing.
Man when I one day get my hands on one, i'll put a 2tb ssd into it. Make like 5 different windows installs, each for their own console emulation, each set up so they fully emulate the original console but with all the roms
that sounds like a nightmare to setup and a waste of storage space and i don't see the point.
@@YariCodes Give myself the feel of having the actual console on the deck
Nightmare to setup? Yes, worth it? Probably not. Am I gonna do it? Yes.
@@rackneh props to dedication.
Honestly, the fact that I can use Steam Play if I just want to play a game like Elden Ring or Forza from my bed makes the Steam Deck worth it.
Yes.. it would be cheaper just using my phone and buying a Razer Kishii (or whatever it’s called) but the fact that it’s also a Computer means I can comfortably play games NATIVELY on the Device so long as it’s supported… it’s a win/win in my opinion.
Steam Deck is to PCs what Quest 2 is for VR Headsets, it’s a product laser focused on brining in more users into the entire space while also still being a great, affordable and easy to use product… for so long Valve has been sitting doing nothing for so long but it’s clear why that was, they’re preparing change the PC Marketplace and bring fierce competition.
On my Dell Inspiron i5 gaming I used to be able to play Dragon Age and Doom. Close the lid. It goes to sleep. Come back 1 or 2 days later and open it up and continue playing after about 3 to 4 seconds of wait time. Subsequent updates made the game crash but for a little while i was in the future.
Can't wait to get mine. I've actually not been playing anything on PC the last few weeks because I want to play them on the Deck.
It's be nice if the Steam Link could be used as a dock for the Steam Deck, but I guess charging would not be an option without power pass-through, but I guess we could plug in charger and just cast to the Steam Link.
Linus while i respect your decision to use the steam deck as your only PC. It is not really for that, it uses a rather newish technology (that being immutability) to make sure that the software that comes from valve itself is controlled. It makes it harder to install traditional packages on your own so that it is less prone to breaking. Instead it uses flatpaks which are much more sandboxed and can't break your system. Personally i would be fine with it but not sure about anyone else.
Can't you just install windows or a different version of Linux though? It's a PC right?
When I was a child my dad would watch a show called screensavers. This has that same feel.
you can even have retroarch on it it has it's own steam page
Part of it being undercooked it the huge amounts of potential this thing has
I just got a steam deck and I gotta say, yes, I have an amazing gaming PC at home but the ability to bring the steam deck to my friends house, plug it into their TV and just be good to go... Is unrivaled. I guess I coooould take my desktop over there, or spend 2000 on a gaming laptop worth a couple cents, but having this steam deck is great. I LOVE bringing it to my non PC gaming friends house and playing split screen games. COD zombies, unraveled 2, it takes two, chicken horse, great games to play with friends and they all run great. I'm so happy with my purchase. The steam deck is by far the most interesting piece of hardware I own and I have a lot of gear. I am just so impressed with it's functionality. I also have emulators installed and lots of Nintendo games on the deck.
Currently experiencing issues playing two player games on the emulators but that could a simple settings issue. I have two Xbox controllers paired via Bluetooth but for some reason only one controller controls both characters. It's odd. Haven't looked into it too much yet.
@@manofwill2468 how are you playing splitscreen cod? nucleus co-op?
@@bigaurum bo3 zombies. My bad.
?? am i fucked up or did I not watch this 2 days ago? Just came off a 16 hr shift so this deja vu is fucking w/ me
What laptops are you guys using on the show?
I haven't been able to get/try a steam deck however I think the main advantage of it is the game selection and quality. To this day I regret buying a switch not only is the price not justified for the performance (especially compared to the Deck) but the selection outside of the Nintendo titles absolutely suck not to mention sales are non existent.
4:57 20 minutes! I had to cut something! [Gamers Nexus has entered the chat]
Once my boss called at 2AM and I went apeshit. Then he apologized next morning. Good stuff.
19:39 ha! Not sure if that pun was intentional, but it worked so well! xD
Inb4 steam box console, based on this tech with more power, xbox competitor. The difference now being proton compatibility and PC parts availability. Loving this new platform!
I've been using Steam voice calls for a looooooong time already to keep contact with a friend xD
I can't wait to get one of those, and then install a few VR games on it, and stream directly to my Quest 2 headset. It really feels like it's going to be a game changer, using those 2 together. For $1000 you would literally be able to play *thousands* of VR games without wires. Sure the Deck has to be somewhere around you, but it's still PCVR "without a PC". 2 portable devices, connected to a single wifi, gives you so much possibilities. Can you imagine, portable HalfLife: Alyx? Holy shit.
I've had this experience with having a gaming laptop, very fun for taking the quest to my parents house and my sister's house for them to try VR without any cables, besides charging my laptop in a corner 😅
Really dont wanna pop any bubbles but the deck *really* cant handle vr very well, theres a few videos of people using it and its just not good for that purpose.
ill get the base model after a while as a portable workstation for writing
I could tell Linus was awake all night. His eyes looked so shot in the video lol
The improvement for the steam remote play has been for a while. I play on my laptop on remote and it is awesome!
4:35 Well, that's still part of the Steam Link experience at least.
I'll absolutely, 100% use the remote play feature of the Steam Deck every now and then. I mean, I'll most likely even use Stadia to play Destiny, as that is a free title, or possibly even buy other games on Stadia, as the video decoding of a stream ought to use far less battery than native rendering.
I've already got an Nvidia shield, and in-network streaming is *fantastic* nowadays. It's *almost* indistinguishable from native gameplay. Cloud gaming is 'ok', but Stadia in particular suffers from an incredibly poor bitrate - but at 720 or 800p, I really don't think it'll degrade the experience by that much.
I'm a Q1 order, and I'm waiting patiently, wishing that I'll be in this Mondays allotment, but either way I'll have mine soon™
I havent seen any video of the Deck playing games when connected to a monitor. Does that functionality not work?
I'm setting mine up right now (i got it over a week ago). I got a 1tb ssd , but haven't installed it yet, which is why I haven't set it up. I'm stupid, I should have realised the games on the sd card would carry over.