Gate captains were so important back in the day because just more troops would keep coming out, then you had hard gate captains where it was right next to the commander of the arms such as Dong Zhou at Hu Loa Gate, dude had 3 gate captains right next to him
@@IvanRemax I remember raging one level on the hardest difficulty because our whole army except the commander charged and peon units kept spawning from the north straight to our commander who was now alone at base dying. Nothing I could do because units no longer needed gates to spawn. I spent 10 min defending him then charged the enemy commander to lose on the way
My personal Dynasty Warriors 10 changes: - Bring back character creation in the base games like in DW4 - Remove the 1 vs. 1000 game loop introduced in the PS3 games - Bring back the classic combo system (revamped and tweaked of course) but make them less “shonen” and more Wu Xia martial arts film - Make fighting with allies and bodyguards an integral part of combat (trying to solo an army should by difficult like, DW2 - DW3) - BETTER AI - Historical/Hypothetical routes - A “Legends” mode for CAC’s like in 5XL but with MANY different routes (Wei, Wu, Shu, Other., and an Independent route where your CAC gets an opportunity to raise an army and essentially unite ancient China) - HOT TAKE: The open world is a great idea, but needs to be implemented in a way that combines ROTK way of life and strategy elements & the combat loop of Dynasty Warriors - KEEP THE WEAPON DESIGNS SIMPLE PLEASE! (Dynasty Warriors 3, 4, and especially Samurai Warriors 1 and 2 had PERFECT weapons design!) - NO XTREME MODE EXPANSION. GIVE US A COMPLETE GAME, THEN MAKE AN EMPIRES SERIES. - no clones - Either give under represented characters more shine, or just replace them for other characters who actually deserve a slot (WHY IS CAI WENJI THERE, BUT NO LIAO HUA?) - Character designs gotta be a blend of DW9 & ROTK13 - Bring back versus and co-op mode with local and online online multiplayer - Have ALL costumes going back to the first game ALREADY on the disc and made possible to unlock by. . . playing the game Asking for a lot from KOEI, but a boy can dream
@@keyblademasterclark yeah, but the AI is braindead. There is no real obstacle or challenge. The lack of NPCs on screen in the PS2 titles forced KOEI to innovate with the combat/gameplay You couldn’t just mow down thousands of NPCs by mindlessly pressing buttons, and when you did get 1000 KO’s in older games, it was an accomplishment, and you’re rewarded with a permanent morale boost, so you didn’t need to babysit your allies Dynasty Warriors isn’t a shonen power fantasy, nor is it Sengoku Basara, and it shouldn’t try to emulate that (imo) But hey, to each his own
bring more hypothetical routes per army/character. I really wanna see what happens when Lu Bu agrees to be under Cao Cao's command or what if SunJian did not get ambushed and died
According to the Dynasty Warriors 9 English voice actors, Eli Godfrey (Xun Yu) and Maxwell Chase (Li Dian and Guan Suo), the reason why the English dub has stagnated dialogue and mispronounced Chinese names is due to the NDA (non-disclosure agreement) which prevented them from rehearsing their lines and the limited budget and time for the voice actor to record, rehearse and research on the characters and the name pronunciation.
Maybe we could get the OG Dynasty Warriors English VA cast to do the voices again. Heck, hearing Jamieson Price voice Lu Bu again and hear him intimidate enemy peons would be a legit scary experience. Lu Bu: So, you punks are eager to die, eh? Come, entertain me if you can!
Speaking of secret cut scenes, i remember in Dw4, In the rescue the two Qiao's battle, each character had their own dialogue basically dissing Dong Zhou at the beginning of the battle. Which, yes, also included Dong Zhou dissing himself. In DW3 if you approach Guan Yu playing as Guan Yu, he will mention how it will be difficult fighting himself. Things like that are what i really miss. Goofy fun to have with friends just testing who said what.
6:12 this is my personal reason why I can’t get into any of the newer titles. I miss having bodyguards and then going up to an officer with their bodyguards and fighting it out. Battling it out on hard on some of the hardest levels was so challenging and incredibly fun. Also miss the morale system from 3, 4 and 5. I felt like I didn’t have to babysit as much when comparing to the newer titles. Just seeing an ally on the map with higher morale actually PUSH into enemy lines and taking out enemy officers and gate captains actually made the battlefield feel much more alive.
This completely sums up my thoughts as well. 5 is my favorite, 3 is a close second and 4 is also fantastic. The morale system made it feel like you were part of a massive army whereas in the later titles, you’re the end all be all running from point to point. I stopped playing the games after 7 because I just couldn’t get into that style of play, plus the cheesy camp feelings from the early titles is something that really can’t be replicated. 5 was easily the most complete for me in terms of gameplay, voice acting, story, etc
@@SkupBooblessI love that you said this. Maybe its because I’m older now but DW5 was the end of in my opinion. It’s so wild to see how different they are now from what they were back then, completely different game. DW3 still remains my favorite game of all time though.
@@donnie91 DW3 is incredible and was actually my introduction to the series. This may seem like a weird comparison but the older titles (3, 4, 5) remind me of Resident Evil 4 in that the gameplay and story were very well done, but it also had a perfect blend of cheesy, camp action combined with a great story. I completely agree with your thoughts in that there really are two separate camps…the earlier titles and the newer ones and 6 is sorta that in between divider. I so wish I was able to play those old titles on my PS4. Just hearing the theme song “March” brings back so many memories
@@SkupBoobless I agree, the story line was so well done. I enjoyed how the other characters outside of the main factions had their own Musou modes that made sense. After 4 they added the bases which really changed it up instead of just hack and slash. I really am surprised they never remade 3 keeping the simplicity of it and adding elements that you couldn’t do before starting the game. Like selecting which generals and army, certain traps, ambushes or reinforcements in designated areas at a certain time during gameplay. On the enemies end it’s randomized so you don’t already know the trap is coming after the 100th time playing that level. Remember playing on hard setting and then randomly reinforcements arrive or going down a narrow path and an enemy general ambushes you? Ie. Zhou Yu or Lu Xun setting fire traps, Guan Yu or Xiao Dun coming with reinforcements, Gongsun Zan or Gang Ning popping out of nowhere while you’re running down the narrow paths.
They should do a DW4 remake, that game lu bu was hard to kill and most of times you have to run. -Duels -bodyguards -Character creation -character unlock -alternative story’s( you select which battle to take)
@@mathewlang7436 Hahahaha makes me think of all the times I'd have Him down to His last sliver of Life, then I'd accidentally knock Him down and He'd get up and make a FULL recovery! Smh
They should bring back bodyguards or even a small army that follow you like they used too when each general had there separate army’s and it told you who they belonged too
I think the main focus that dw10 should take is realism. Creating a game that's closer to the real 3 kingdoms would not only attract new players to the series but would be a breathe of fresh air to og dynasty warriors characters. I'm not saying they have to get every single part of the 3 kingdoms from start to finish cause that's obviously unrealistic but this would be a great way to. Make old battles seem fresh again.
I appreciate with 9 they tried something new with open world. But nobody asked for it and the world felt empty and bland. I wish they would kinda reset back to 4 and have linier stages and cutscenes etc
i actually liked what 9 tried to do with the map, it made battles feel like battles with actual decisions that needed to be made, which is why it would've been the perfect game for the "What if" paths
The combo system has such a bigger impact on gameplay than it's given credit for. I wholeheartedly agree with you about how combat feels in DW9. I've missed this franchise so much and I decided to re-download DW9 on my Xbox. No joke, I played for 15 minutes and immediately remembered why I uninstalled it. I miss leveling up weapons in DW4 and doing hidden quests to get the best items. I grew up playing DW4 since I was in elementary school, and I remember my amazement when I found out that you could actually have red hare for yourself. I don't know what I'll do if DW10 doesn't take a step in the right direction. It has been a really sad decade becoming disenchanted with the games I grew up being fascinated by...
Absolutely agree, unfortunately I will buy anything that they produce because Im a sucker for the game and memories and the natural curiousity of how they shaped my favorite franchise always gets the best of me. I really hope they do take a good passionate step with DW10, because while I do appreciate the innovation and experimentation of DW9, it just seems like it was released with no passion
@@TheNightowlGaming Here's my stance on DW9; DW9 is like a chocolate bunny on Easter... You look in your basket and see the big chocolate bunny that looks delicious and you can't wait to tear into it. Unfortunately to your dismay, when you finally take that first bite, you find out the chocolate bunny is hollow and you essentially were given a shell.
Nah forreal i miss the old combo system. I am somewhat okay with dw9 combo system but it felt bit dull while fun. the problem is for me the rest of the game is pretty dull which just emphasizes the overall dullness of whats suppose to be the main fun thing of the game. Truthfully with the dw9 combo system i feel like they got a foundation that they can work on and make better, i do hope to see elements of the old combo sytem come back. The leveling of the weapons along with seeing the stats of your character go up was extremely satsifying, what was even more satsifying like how oc pointed out was the hidden quest for ultimate weapons (like accidently prompting one and trying to figure out how that happen and when completed the stun/happiness/surprise to see you gained a ultimate gear (weapon, item, horse, etc). Then trying to find out the others either by looking online or being explorative on the way you do battles to see if theres any pecuilur (yes i know i spelt that wrong), thats what i ended up doing in dw8 for the hypotheticals. That should had never been removed
What if… Dynasty Warriors X incorporates the character switching mechanic from the Samurai Warriors games which allows players to handle various objectives without the need to babysit the other characters while doing some important stuff.
This video made me remember how much of a trainwreck DW9 was...... I've been playing DW all my life but I've only really played a couple of the games, just A LOT of those specific games. Mainly 8XLCE, I was so hyped for 9 but then they started revealing the characters and their weapons and it all started crumbling, then the voice acting and the barren open world. The DLC weapons pissed me off so much when I saw them. Also my boy Chen Gong got done dirty with that sickle fuck the sickle.
I completely agree with everything said, and I've been thinking about it for quite some time. I'd like to add a couple of points myself: 1. Bringing back parrying: In the classic entries of the series (as well as in 6), the game's difficulty could genuinely challenge the player, and the parrying system saved my life countless times. In the subsequent parts of the series, due to the overall lower difficulty of the games, the need for parrying disappeared, along with the parrying system itself. 2. Abandoning the open world idea: I don't believe that Koei's budget would allow them to create a new installment at a high enough quality level to prevent the open world in this game from feeling empty, without sacrificing anything. I'm all in favor of it, but if we realistically assess their capabilities, we either get an average game with an open world, or a 10/10 game in the classic instanced style.
I had to sell DW 8 or 9 and 8 won out because of character creation. It is a game that me and my wife play together and its the only thing that keeps my wife loving the game, also when she used the Crossed Pike the first time, she wont use anything else now...
I stopped playing after 5. We told them we wanted online play and to be able to order our troops around. I said if I didn't get online play I was giving gaming up. Haven't gamed since 2009, but I still enjoy watching others play or complain, occasionally.😂 There was a hack in 5 to get a bodyguard as strong as a general who could heal you. Only character she couldn't beat on her own was Lu Bu.
Dynasty Warriors 5 and Empires 5 were amazing. The OG Samurai Warriors too. Bring back bodyguards that you level up, Easter egg cut scenes, duals, gates that are difficult to breach, stronger foot soldiers, archery, gates guards, ambushes, less fictional characters, specialists abilities like lighting bases on fire, traditional weapon ups like you mentioned. They gave away so much for more characters.
Join the PlayStation master race. Producer has already confirmed that the open world isn't returning. Hell, I wouldn't mind making characters different ala Warriors Orochi 3 where all characters with shared weapons have unique charge attacks. For weapons, I'd like the DW4 weapon exp system to come back, but if weapon swapping is here to stay, I'm okay taking the DW7 approach, specifically the DW7XL approach where common weapons can be purchased but the high tier weapons require specific conditions on high difficulty. For character progression, I like the level system but I also like a branching skill tree that lets me pick what my character focuses on and in what order. SW4-2 and SW5 do this decently. DW6 actually has a version of this I really enjoy where everyone gets different skills so there's a reason to use different characters. DW9 combat can stay in DW9. The combo system of old can be made better. How about every charge attack be branching. Like every charge can have up to three stages but only if that's your EX weapon. And keeping the DW7-8 style Musou attacks works to keep combat more fast paced. Keep the DW4 approach to new characters. One per kingdom max. You can add more per DLC. But quality over quantity, please. The combat of Dynasty Warriors won't be like Wo Long. If you want Wo Long combat, you can play Wo Long. Dynasty Warriors has always been an accessable to everyone game and people want all these intricate gameplay mechanics but then it stops being Dynasty Warriors. You can have a fun game without convoluted gameplay. And when they tried adding things like grapples and counter attacks to spice up combat, it had severe backlash (Dynasty Warriors 6). I think that giving characters more scenes would be fantastic. DW7XL does this amazingly well. If you can't play it, definitely watch the cutscenes on TH-cam. WO3 took heavy inspiration on it's character relationships from DW7XL. I actually really like the DW7/DW8 story approach. Give characters some time to shine. DW9 was trying something new and the risk didn't pay off. It was incredibly empty and battles felt incredibly unintuitive. People thought Renbu was bad, but DW9 was mash square/X until triangle/Y pops up on screen. Past costume DLC is here to stay. It's easy post game revenue.
KT this comment right here, take notes! BUt yeah I pretty much agree with you, the intricate fighting system would be good in pieces if they did experiment with it. I actually like the grapple attacks from DW6 🥲 but other than that I agree with pretty much everything else!
Nice, lots to agree with there. I do think you forgot to mention co-op. One of my favorite reasons to play the series. Also the reason I bought the 4th back in the day. Things started getting weird around 8 empires and then 9 only did it forever after It's release. I actually purchased it after that update and had a decent time. Enjoy Wo Long!
I did forget to mention co op, it's not somehting i really think about since i mainly play solo, but it is a good point and oh man is wo long toughhhh haha
Something else which I feel has gotten worse is that in the Early games, characters were badass and macho. And intimidating etc. But now I'm fighting more teenage looking girl characters ... completely takes me out of character
I totally agree that's why I honestly prefer old school Dynasty Warriors as DW2 and DW3 are my personal favorite renditions of the "General" characters and of the generic officers as well
D9 to me seemed very unfinished but the baseline was there. I for one enjoyed the open world concept but it wasnt finished in D9. I think it could work with current gen consoles only. Imagine the amount of enemies on screen with better, tougher and improved AI. With more things to do in the open world. As for the combo system, i liked it in D9 and always loved the old system so they could combine it in some way or have optional via menu optional. Either way im in the camp where i hope they stick with the open world but not opposed to the old style if they bring it back.
Yeah honestly didnt mind it, there is a lot they could do with it and if done right can be really fun and rewarding but I think the rumor is they're not going back to open world for dw10
I miss the bodyguards from dynasty warriors 3. You could have 8 of them and they leveled up and they had a progression to their armor the higher their level was.
that was one of my favorite systems, while i in ways prefer 4 due to the customization, i loved dw5 body guards. I feel like it brought more immersion to the game and characters. For example if the character is a officer or general, normally they would have guards with them. Also expanding on that, the characters who are among that status should technically be having a army (peons/troops) of their own that will follow them. i think dw3/dw4 there was a system like that but it was lowkey. Basically they should have the body guards and troops that you can "raise/level up", customize how the function (lancers, calavary, archers, skirmishers) and be able to command them like how we can command our bodyguards. This would bring more immersion and flair to the game because honestly i felt it was cool that the army would travel with us and fight the enemy... thats also when peons wasnt total push overs. At the end, being a general and officer with a strong army will feel great for everyone imo
I just want a tad bit more realism while remaining hack n slash. Combos with blood. It'd be insane if bodies stayed on the ground. Bring back levels, not open world. Just large battlefields. Bring back gates... closing off enemy reinforcements was one of the best parts. I think they should take away the system that tells you what to do as well... I used to love playing battles over and over finding out the best way to beat them.
Dynasty warrior 10 i want see 1 unique weapon 2 hypotical/hystorical route not just for kingdom but also for character as well 3 open world with new and old game play 4 create your own kingdom 5 AI 6 new officer from DW blast or even strikeforce 7 add strikeforce fury mode 8 voice acting And many more
Here are the characters they should add for DW10 and reason: 1. Wei *Zhang Yan - Commander in the Yellow Turban Rebellion who went on to lead the Heishan Bandits *Cao Hong - Cousin of Cao Cao and Cao Ren, a greedy man and womanizer, one of the 8 Tiger Generals *Cao Ang - Cao Cao's eldest son, gave his own life and let his father use his horse to escape the assassination attempt at Wan Castle 2. Wu *Zu Mao - One of Sun Jian's first generals, slain at Sishui gate in a duel by Hua Xiong *Zhu Zhi - One of the five elders, Helped Sun Ce in his conquest of Wu by betraying Xu Gong while under the guise of an adviser *Pan Zhang - Ruthless officer who participated in slaying Guan Yu, it was said that he claimed Guan Yu's spear as a prize 3. Shu *Liao Hua - Former Yellow Turban, witnessed every event during the era of the Three Kingdoms from start to finish *Sun Qian - One of Liu Bei's first advisers who formerly served Tao Qian *Shamoke - Tribalman who was King of the Five Valleys Region. Ambushed and killed Gan Ning in Yi Ling 4. Jin *Wang Jun - Led the fight at Jianye and forced Sun Hao to surrender 5. Other *He Jin - Imperial Warlord who crushed the Yellow Turban Rebellion *Zhang Rang - Eunuch whose role in the Corruption of the Imperial Han sparked a series of events such as the Yellow Turban Rebellion *Gongsun Zan - Ruler of Ji Territory and founder of the White Riders, Zhao Yun first served under him, his forces were defeated by Yuan Shao *Wu Tugu - Barbarian King who served Meng Huo, The tallest warrior in the Three Kingdoms era *Huche'er - A foreign mercenary who participated in the assassination attempt on Cao Cao, the only Non-Chinese warrior in the Three Kingdoms
If they could just bring back the voice acting, and destiny more, I'd play it for years till the next DW came out. I hate the voice acting in 9 so much.
Things they need to bring back to DW10 (My List) Campaign mode similar to DW4 Bodyguards with name customization and troop type. Weapon leveling up system back from DW4. Customized character playable on all factions on Campaign mode. Customization of OC's Free Mode Challenge Mode VS mode Xtreme Legends More characters (Wei: Xiahou En, Wang Lang Wu: Late Wu kings (not Sun Quan) and Ding Feng's son and some other Idk who else to name. Shu: Ma Su, Ma Liang, Wang Ping, Fei Yi, Zhao Lei. Other: Ma teng, Ma Xiu, Ma Tie, Tian Feng, He Jin, Huangfu Song, Zhu jun, Li Jue, Gongsun Zan. Add more items and elements. Have more weapons for bodyguards. Gate Guards need to comeback Each character need their own fighting style instead of a clone same moves. Finally Morale System needs to return.
I say these things. 1. Weapon Affinity. I love that Rock Paper Scissors Element. 2. Unique Weapons. Screw Realism, I want whackiness and fun in my games that have magical elements in them. 3. Dueling. 4 is so fun because of how it implemented D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-Duels. 4. Mix and match the DW8&9 English Casts. 9 had some good casting, wouldn't change the newer characters, however the rest would be better being someone else, I at times mistook Cao Xiu and Zhang He due to their voices. 5. Make Lu Bu impossible to go through at Hu Lao Gate. Self explanatory. 6. Conquest Mode. Make it a mixture of DW7's take and your precious Destiny Mode. 7. Personalized Storylines. By that I mean make each character be the primary focus of their own Storyline while telling the bigger Story at hand, think Li Dian's story of working alongside Zhang Liao, that was mentioned in 9 and 8, however we saw what, 3 moments in 9? And 0 in 8 beyond a slight mention in He Fei. 8. Hypothetical Scenarios for DLC. Specifically stuff like Lu Bu joining Cao Cao, a Wei Kingdom Civil War lead by Cao Cao's sons, what have you. 9. All past costumes for all characters from all the past games. That includes Dynasty Tactics 1&2. 10. Expand Wei's Overall Story to include Cao Rui's time.
First Sex Gravy, then Chris Gildart and now The Nightowl. 3 EPIC videos about what could be done with DW10. YESSIR!! XD I gotta have to say all these are incredibly fun and interesting ideas that I'd totally love. Especially agree with the Easter Egg cutscenes, Destiny Mode and Duelling. If they keep the open world, I think one way they could do it is have the open world only when you're not fighting and you progress the story by talking to characters to start the battle like DW7&8 camps. And once you do, the map gets cut off and you'll have battles just like in the older games. Once the battle is done we transition back into the open world where you can still go and grind and do whatever an open world game should offer you to do. Also to prevent players from maxing out the character before playing the story they could just add some kind of timer and if you don't start the battle manually the timer will start it for you. That being said I am no video game expert, but that's just something I came up with haha.
Haha yep! and it's an interesting idea, I could see it, as long as they fill up the open world and give it more life, more quests and stuff, I would have no problem with it!
I could care less if the weapons are the same, but with different movesets, it counters the officers who uses the same weapons. 💯 What I really want is Koei to make more officers for Other Forces!! They need to make Zhang Jiao's two brothers (Bao and Liang) into playable characters or at least a real separate NPC like they did with Hua Xiong in DW9!! Also make Yuan Shao's sons playable, (Yuan Tan, Yuan Xi, Yuan Shang) and notable officers Wen Chou and Yuan Shu, Gongsun Zan. Then from the Nanman Tribe, make Yong Kai, King Mulu, Ahui Nan playable. And from Dong Zhuo's force, make Li Jue, Fan Chou, Guo Si and Xu Rong playable. On Lu Bu's side, make Gao Shun, Hou Cheng and Cao Xing. 💯 This will make the Other Forces' story more exciting!! 🔥🙏
For sure! I think they need to develop others before adding new ones, unless they do both which would be aweseome and same idc about same weapons just make em different!
I kinda hope the next game would make our allied officers actually useful, every fight 'X' officer is in trouble and its reslly stupid when its a standard random named enemy defeats someone like Lu Bu
Bit late, but here's my idea, I think for dynasty warriors 10, they should try do a reboot for the series, similarly to samurai warriors 5 ( obviously do it better this time), this allows more detail of each story points of each time period, and allow us, the gamer to fully feel the experience of time. They should also do a split of each time period, where from the first instalment goes from yellow turban arc to the battle of Chibi ( Red Cliffs) , which establishes the "3 dynasty" of Wei, Shu and Wu. Hopefully, this allows the game to go more detail with each battle (similar to dynasty warriors 4, where in yellow turban arc, they displayed 3 stages, rather than one in future instalments), I really hated how the battle of Guandu (where yaun shao Lost) wasn't fully displayed, as it should've displayed the full strategic might of Cao Cao, and marked an important historic point for him as well . Or even have a solo mission for Zhao Yun or even Zhang Fei for the battle of Changban when Zhao Yun has to rescue Liu Shan Or holding the bridge for a certain time period. Combat: Even though i disliked dynasty warriors 9 changed of weapon system, it is still something refreshing, and I think with some balancing issues, and maybe deleting / adding a new mechanic to it would probably fix it. By cutting down only the roasters that appeared during that time period would allow more all officers to have their own unique weaponries. Just move all dynasty warriors 8 weaponries to dynasty warriors 10 if they are lazy to think of new ones, at least they all have unique weapons. I think they should also add +1 or + 2 of new officers for each factions. Ageing system: To fully experience the passing of time, I think only characters that appears from Yellow turban Arc should only receive the aging system , I think Koei Tecmo is going to be a bit lazy about this specific part. I also think for some characters, they should also receive a weapon change (similarly to samurai warriors 5), for example Lui Bei at the start of the game, uses one sword, while after finding Zhuge Liang (and ageing) uses a twin blade (similarly to the 3 kingdom (2010) show). AI Ramp this difficulty by 10x, reduce the amount of units appearing. allow officers to die on the battlefield as time passes (so that time is a meaningful issue) New modes Dynasty warriors 5 Xtreme legends, and hypothetical time-line . Nuff said.
Ive actually been opposed to the different sections games idea but if it allows for more in depth character story and increased chemistry among the characters, im all for it. Thats all I want, an interesting well in depth story based game with a challenging yet rewarding combat system. They can do it
Dynasty Warriors 4 HD Remake with only Hard mode. And if your character dies in battle, its not game over, you just switch to playing a different character on the battlefield.
I remember they gave everyone on Warriors Orochi 3 there own unique charge attacks if they shared the same weapons like Sima Zhao and Sun Jian both used the sword moves set but both had completely different charge attacks and that was fun.
I disagree with you wanting those Easter egg missions back because I despise being forced to play on any difficulty above normal. But, I do agree with the rest of your points. I love the character creation part and would have loved a revamped destiny mode.
Point 1: weapons: Agree. "Realistic" weapons and unique but different style. Progression /item over craft, yes. 2: Agree. Extra modes are welcome. 3: Absolutely agree. AI that moves/blocks, attacks > AI that has more Hp. Dw3
They should bring back the combo and keep the skills system just like Samurai Warriors 5 ,they already did that in Warrior orochi 4 with the magic system
3, 5 and 6 are the best you had bodyguards, cool strategy objectives, base takeovers. Now I haven't played DW after 7 i pretty much fell off because I did not like the crafts and stupid weapons you can use. I like the original main character weapons and that's it. Also a cool thing about 3 and 5 you had troops that were in groups that would follow you so you had bodyguards and troops!.
There's only 1 game where Combo animations can be edited on-the-go in "Training session" or, permanently edited for real gameplay. It is Dynasty Warriors Online Z. Editing weapon animation cost real money between $1 - $15 and it's kinda neat because the same weapon can be stronger or weaker depending on its animation movesets. KOEI closed the service because the game is lacking players and it's using a Dynasty Warriors 5 Engine.
This video certainly sums up all of what we need! I wholeheartedly agree! Bases in some maps if not all? Outside of just in Empires. Always felt like Empires needed some Destiny mechanics. Both need to be expanded on and Destiny brought back. Bring open world to Empires. Bring back more customization and more impactful stratagems and bodyguards and units following you in Empires. Some of these are also applicable to the normal games! In Empires, maybe have some base-building elements outside of the campaign map for your provinces, quests and NPCs filling up the world. Even your army patrolling around if you are occupying or in control of the province and they're fighting random skirmishes and such with the enemy. Just random ideas.
Yeah thatd be awesome, it would just make the game that much more fun and playable along with giving us fans enough content to continue to play over and over, who knows if theyll do it htough
Yeah i wouldnt mind if they give characters swords , spears ,pikes, bows , crossbows, halberds and so on (what was used back in ancient china) as long as each character had its own style for example Sun family could have similar movesets with slight changes on each character.
@@ElPsyKongroo I loved 5, it’s the games after I couldn’t get into (not counting Xtreme Legends). Think particularly the weapon swapping in later games annoyed me
The Duel System I Missed that because I played Dynasty Warriors 5 first but damn it will give the game what it needs a Warrior focus. Nioh/Nioh 2 is a good example of letting the characters gameplay shine
@TheNightowlGaming absolutely. Everyone loves the ability to make their own choices and have an effect the outcome of the story. It would breath a lot of life in to a stagnant game
So I have a theory there was a voice actor strike during the development dynasty warriors . So they didn't wait for the strike to be over instead they just recasted everyone. And yeah matt Fowler the guy who voices zhuge liange did say that there was a lot of problems.and there a lot go dialogue so I think it was probably cheaper to hire indi actors to do these voices.
You can be a hardcore fan and not play on hardest mode......that's two separate things. I do really want unique weapons back like ugh that's why I didn't get 9...I got empires but i literally protested 9 like it didn't work when yall did it before...why do it again. Seriously miss the old combat system Literally hours spent looking for easter eggs in older games Do you play romance of three kingdoms the real time tactics games? I love the idea of a fallout style dynasty warriors! That would make empire games sooooo much better. I was pissed when they went Open world with this and then I played empire and I was like....this underwhelming Good points, good video
Dynasty warriors 10 better be on Xbox and PC as well... I think as a society, we are pass this generation exclusivity. Also I want that simplistic dw5 Musou mode back with the rng weapon 5 aspect
Great list! I agree with these suggestions. A dynasty return would be good. That leans more into choices you are making. Or maybe even add making choices into the main game to alter things and change up some battles. We have seen this story many times adding player decision making into it would be different and could be a lot of fun. Something i would really like to see is some aging for the characters throughout the timeline because it slays puts me off seeing cao cao when he wasn't recognized and then over the many years he looks the exact same... let these characters show some age as the time moves forward many years.
When DW9 came out, it was terrible. That was because of functionality; not lack of ambition. I disagree that DW9 was the result of a lack of passion on the developers part. Think about it. EVERY iteration of the series had its detractors. Fans constantly made complaints about the series. So developers grind their gears, trying to find something that fans AND new players can respond to. So they try different things. Then fans complain "why don't you do what you did in that old game?" BECAUSE we COMPLAINED ABOUT IT during the old game. We could all get together, have all our ideas put in the next game, and we'll still find something to complain about. I think the consumer ALWAYS has a right to have performance issues addressed. However, if a new style or system is experimented with, I don't think that's worth accusing development teams of a lack of passion.
Definitely understand that for sure and Im a die hard and will always buy whatever they put out regardless because I love the game, the lore, etc.. Yes they cant make everyone happy ever. BUT in the case with DW9 and knowing what's out there on the market in terms of GOOD open world games there was so much they could have done with the game. And with no specific time limit needed for their game to come out I just think if they were truly passionate about pushing the open world they would have filled it up more and made it more fulfilling. Versus the way they have it now and theres not really any incentive to explore the open world at all. It's a vast wasteland that cant even be rummaged through. Was it complete and utter garbage, no, but as fans and im sure as developers themselves they know they could've done so much more with DW9 and an open world, just in my opinion
I think the idea of having the characters use similar weapons but different move sets is a great idea! I’ve honestly have never really liked the more flashy weapons like the Flail Sword or Wing blades. Or the flying swords and etc. I’ve felt like those were TOO unrealistic. I like the idea of having weapons that are more grounded and more common at that time but still slaying 1000 people 😂. Zhao Yun and Ma Chao are great examples of having a similar weapon but different move set. This would allow for each character to also have their own uniqueness while still being grounded in their fighting style.
DW9 really needed some polish and when I play it on a rainy day the idea of "missed potential" comes to mind. I hope they aren't discouraged from trying another open world game, but maybe instead of RTK they use something based off mythology, folklore, and classical literature. Imagine creating your own character and being inserted into the Journey West or Water Margin, or even an OW Orochi type game with an original story.
Commenting a bit late but I want to say that I hope DW10 will be the combination of: Body Guard system from DW4, Destiny Mode from DW5XL, no clone weapon from DW8XL + 8E, and finally the extremely difficult AI from DW4, DW6, DW7 or SW4 - 4II. As for the Empires game series, taking the standards from DW7E is more than enough.
I would love a hyperthetical (other) faction.. perhaps a Han dynasty faction where the focus is yuan shao and his accomplices .. They can create something really special. ❤
My personal changes for a *Dynasty Warriors 10* ,this is my own opinion btw: -Have all characters their own individual weapons(no cloned movesets like DW6,DW7 AND DW9 had). -Keeping the current voice actors from DW8(seriously the DW9 and the DW3 voice acting is bad as hell) -Having Musou mode in the same fashion like DW2, DW3,DW5 and DW6 had for the characters. -Returning the character creation from DW4. -Adding the Destiny Mode from DW5 as an individual musou mode for the custom characters. -All character having alternate costimes from the past DW games(no color pallete changes/color swaps). -Each character MUST have their own 4th,5th AND 6th weapons. -Duel system from DW4 making a comeback. -No Bow combat. -Keeping the dodge mechanic from DW6. -Having the open world the ENTIRE China. -All characters from the Dynasty Warriors series MUST return(no missing any characters). -Musou Mode for each character will be in different categories for each faction: Shu,Wei,Wu,Jin,Other,Yellow Turbans,Yuan Shao,Dong Zhuo,Nanman and lastly,Lu Bu. -Having the option to change the music before entrering the battle. -The combat system DESERVES camera control movement if you want to see the area in 360. -Having the option to use strategies in the middle of the battle(like how DW5 Empires had). -Historcial/Hypothetical stories NEED to return. -Basic Combat and Horse Combat need to be balanced. -The enemy AI needs to be balanced so there won't be a 1 VS 1,000. -The Allied/Enemy NPC's AI needs to work perfectly balanced,otherwise they'll be ALWAYS struggling against the enemy. -Bodyguards need to be customizable and you can add different names like how DW3 XL had. You can also change their default name for each bodyguard. You can have a certain number of bodyguards and you can give them orders to attack or defend. That's pretty much about it,to be honest. I hope you'll agree with me once you read this comment.
I'm PRAYING that the developers don't cave to the nostalgic neckbeards and scrap the open-world concept. Netherrealm Studios did that w/Mortal Kombat when they decided to stop competing with the big boy fighting games and went back to 2D. Open-world IS the way to go so long as they do it right. Sadly, the devs for Dynasty Warriors have a long-standing tradition of not taking their games seriously and marketing them towards small children.
What they need to do is take inspiration from the older dynasty warriors , like dw3-dw5, the weapons , the fighting styles , every character was unique even with the same weapon, like Da Qiao and Xiao Qiao
I can't see us ever getting another Xtreme Legends. The Capcom put an end to that. It's why we got SW4-II instead of SW4XL. Also, the XL games never released on Xbox because for whatever reason Xbox consoles don't support disc swapping. Thus why SW2XL was released as DLC rather than its own title on the 360. As for voice acting, I'd love the older cast to come back but I'm under the impression that they went non-union for DW9 as it was getting too expensive to fund the English VA. I can't comment on the quality as I played it through with the Chinese dub that they finally done.
Yeah Im sure they have the budget to do so and if they have the passion to continue making the franchise what people love it for, I would hope they would try to return to their roots and enhance the empty characters
This series made sense to me when I was in high school but I don't feel like it grew with me. The cast increasingly resemble visual kei stars and dont look chinese at all. I really enjoyed the visuals of the Souten Kouro anime. One of the first things lubu did was squeeze someone's head so hard it exploded. What an entrance, now that is terrifying. Liu Bei gradually grew into his role as a hero and started out as a coward. Cao Cao started out as a hero and seemed to gradually lose his humanity to his ambition. Just give me some story, some twists and some cool visuals. And cut down the cast by like half and i think i might give it a shot again.
I agree with a more in depth story, but cutting the roster I don't think it's necessary, I enjoy having a lot of characters, they just need to fill the empty ones
If open world is the norm moving forward than there absolutely needs to be more emphasis on connecting that to your normal gameplay through character enhancements or city building, for example. Perhaps capture a bandit holdout, fight back wild animals, protect merchants, rescue an important character.
Yeah something like empires gameplay but something more fitting.. like.. We can have some and give some mission in the throne room, and there could be event.. For example, a transport for food supply or something.. and then there's messenger that tell us that there's bandit or enemy army that attacked us.. we have to get there and have actual strategical fight..
Bring back Zhang Liao's old voice, Ambition mode was fun building a city, an need English dub during battle because trying to read that tiny blurb at the bottom during a fight is distracting. Agree with pretty much everything on this list. Keep the body guards and bonds with characters from other army's.
They just need to go back to how it was I think in 6 and 7, then modernize - 3 main characters from the 3 main kingdoms, and then as you do their stories, you unlock other characters. You can have endings similar to how Romance of the Three Kingdoms wrote it, with a little bit of variation based on how it would play out in gameplay, but then also, you can have some levels with characters where it goes in a different directions when you win. Like he said as far as if Sun Jian would’ve lived or Sun Ce. Or shit, even Lu Bu’s story - the game has often portrayed him as nothing more than a disloyal beast, but he was so much more than that in the book. Also the game typically has him as like a one and done thing at Hu Lao gate, but in the book, he actually rose up after that, allied with Liu Bei for a time and then was betrayed and executed. There should be more nods to how their stories were told in the book, and then can switch it up a little based on who you’re playing with. Also, open world was horribly done, takes way too long if you’re trying to experience every character. Go back to stages. And I agree on the combos, weapons, the cut scenes/dubbed. They switched everything in 9 and it was horribly executed. Also, in 8, how the Jin and post-Cao Cao Wei characters have the unrealistic weapons like giant drills and flying swords and shit like that. Like wtf are you doing. They gave Liu Shan a bench as a weapon, a fuxxing bench! Like what?!
The running from lubu in the early games because you had no shot. Or even wrecking ma chao. And the general being like the hell killed that man. And your created general was like. Was me dog i slain him. 4 was my favorite btw bcuz of that create a char. I started with dw3. And began my journey with zhang he. Now i like just about everyone.
Haha. For the last week. I've been playing dw5 xtreme legends on my ps2. Extreme mode and destiny mode is great. This is by far my favorite dw. I wish they would make another one exactly like it 😄 great video.
The combo's in DW9 are overpowered.. When you did combos in earlier DW games you had consider the time you had to execute and the amount of enemies around.. You wouldn't just rush to the middle of the crowd unless your combo's have been upgraded enough
I feel the problem with DW9's system is that even your smallest swipe extended ridiculously far, as if you had two or three Wind Scrolls equipped, it was ridiculous. therefore every character feels far too similar.
DW when it had 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th weapon was so good. Now there's 10 different versions of the same weapon that does the same thing with the same stats. They look cool don't get me wrong but it does get rid of a character's "signature weapon"
I think moving to open world killed the pacing of the game, bring back standalone levels with plenty of spectacle, hypothetical conditions to meet and side quests and I would be happy. I'd also be happy if they didn't introduce a new playable character if it meant fleshing out some of the current roster, bringing less important characters more into the spotlight and ramping the individuality on their fighting styles. TLDR, quality not quantity.
I miss when gates had a function. I always thought the gameplay took a dive when enemy troops spawn in magically instead of coming from gates
True, I forgot about gate captains, a little quality of life that was nice
Gate captains were so important back in the day because just more troops would keep coming out, then you had hard gate captains where it was right next to the commander of the arms such as Dong Zhou at Hu Loa Gate, dude had 3 gate captains right next to him
@@IvanRemax I remember raging one level on the hardest difficulty because our whole army except the commander charged and peon units kept spawning from the north straight to our commander who was now alone at base dying. Nothing I could do because units no longer needed gates to spawn. I spent 10 min defending him then charged the enemy commander to lose on the way
unless it's the yellow turban's ppl that dude was definitely spawning phantom men any chance he can get with magic
@@mrkdavis22 FEEL THE POWER OF MY MAAAGIC
My personal Dynasty Warriors 10 changes:
- Bring back character creation in the base games like in DW4
- Remove the 1 vs. 1000 game loop introduced in the PS3 games
- Bring back the classic combo system (revamped and tweaked of course) but make them less “shonen” and more Wu Xia martial arts film
- Make fighting with allies and bodyguards an integral part of combat (trying to solo an army should by difficult like, DW2 - DW3)
- BETTER AI
- Historical/Hypothetical routes
- A “Legends” mode for CAC’s like in 5XL but with MANY different routes (Wei, Wu, Shu, Other., and an Independent route where your CAC gets an opportunity to raise an army and essentially unite ancient China)
- HOT TAKE: The open world is a great idea, but needs to be implemented in a way that combines ROTK way of life and strategy elements & the combat loop of Dynasty Warriors
- KEEP THE WEAPON DESIGNS SIMPLE PLEASE! (Dynasty Warriors 3, 4, and especially Samurai Warriors 1 and 2 had PERFECT weapons design!)
- NO XTREME MODE EXPANSION. GIVE US A COMPLETE GAME, THEN MAKE AN EMPIRES SERIES.
- no clones
- Either give under represented characters more shine, or just replace them for other characters who actually deserve a slot (WHY IS CAI WENJI THERE, BUT NO LIAO HUA?)
- Character designs gotta be a blend of DW9 & ROTK13
- Bring back versus and co-op mode with local and online online multiplayer
- Have ALL costumes going back to the first game ALREADY on the disc and made possible to unlock by. . . playing the game
Asking for a lot from KOEI, but a boy can dream
I wholeheartedly agree with everything you said, Make a complete full game, full of content that hardcore DW fans can really sink their teeth into
Agree with this
I don't mind the shonen but wu xia is honestly just as crazy and out there.
taking away the 1 vs 1000 function seems like a downgrade imo. I love being able to fight my way through 1000+ enemies!
@@keyblademasterclark yeah, but the AI is braindead. There is no real obstacle or challenge.
The lack of NPCs on screen in the PS2 titles forced KOEI to innovate with the combat/gameplay
You couldn’t just mow down thousands of NPCs by mindlessly pressing buttons, and when you did get 1000 KO’s in older games, it was an accomplishment, and you’re rewarded with a permanent morale boost, so you didn’t need to babysit your allies
Dynasty Warriors isn’t a shonen power fantasy, nor is it Sengoku Basara, and it shouldn’t try to emulate that (imo)
But hey, to each his own
bring more hypothetical routes per army/character. I really wanna see what happens when Lu Bu agrees to be under Cao Cao's command or what if SunJian did not get ambushed and died
Exactly!
Cant say how much I love the hypothetical routes in DW8 XL
@@PNarbz123 Yes especially the cinematics :D
@@PNarbz123what's crazy is they introduced this in SW1 and didn't do it again until DW8
According to the Dynasty Warriors 9 English voice actors, Eli Godfrey (Xun Yu) and Maxwell Chase (Li Dian and Guan Suo), the reason why the English dub has stagnated dialogue and mispronounced Chinese names is due to the NDA (non-disclosure agreement) which prevented them from rehearsing their lines and the limited budget and time for the voice actor to record, rehearse and research on the characters and the name pronunciation.
Thats rough, then that falls on the developers then like why rush it if its gonna be bad, hopefully they learned from DW9
Maybe we could get the OG Dynasty Warriors English VA cast to do the voices again. Heck, hearing Jamieson Price voice Lu Bu again and hear him intimidate enemy peons would be a legit scary experience.
Lu Bu: So, you punks are eager to die, eh? Come, entertain me if you can!
@@TheNightowlGaming the fans were sending death threats for koei to release the game blame the fans
Speaking of secret cut scenes, i remember in Dw4, In the rescue the two Qiao's battle, each character had their own dialogue basically dissing Dong Zhou at the beginning of the battle. Which, yes, also included Dong Zhou dissing himself. In DW3 if you approach Guan Yu playing as Guan Yu, he will mention how it will be difficult fighting himself. Things like that are what i really miss. Goofy fun to have with friends just testing who said what.
Exactly, those made the games so much fun
Dw4 was legendary game
6:12 this is my personal reason why I can’t get into any of the newer titles. I miss having bodyguards and then going up to an officer with their bodyguards and fighting it out. Battling it out on hard on some of the hardest levels was so challenging and incredibly fun.
Also miss the morale system from 3, 4 and 5. I felt like I didn’t have to babysit as much when comparing to the newer titles. Just seeing an ally on the map with higher morale actually PUSH into enemy lines and taking out enemy officers and gate captains actually made the battlefield feel much more alive.
Facts
This completely sums up my thoughts as well. 5 is my favorite, 3 is a close second and 4 is also fantastic. The morale system made it feel like you were part of a massive army whereas in the later titles, you’re the end all be all running from point to point. I stopped playing the games after 7 because I just couldn’t get into that style of play, plus the cheesy camp feelings from the early titles is something that really can’t be replicated. 5 was easily the most complete for me in terms of gameplay, voice acting, story, etc
@@SkupBooblessI love that you said this. Maybe its because I’m older now but DW5 was the end of in my opinion. It’s so wild to see how different they are now from what they were back then, completely different game. DW3 still remains my favorite game of all time though.
@@donnie91 DW3 is incredible and was actually my introduction to the series. This may seem like a weird comparison but the older titles (3, 4, 5) remind me of Resident Evil 4 in that the gameplay and story were very well done, but it also had a perfect blend of cheesy, camp action combined with a great story. I completely agree with your thoughts in that there really are two separate camps…the earlier titles and the newer ones and 6 is sorta that in between divider. I so wish I was able to play those old titles on my PS4. Just hearing the theme song “March” brings back so many memories
@@SkupBoobless I agree, the story line was so well done. I enjoyed how the other characters outside of the main factions had their own Musou modes that made sense. After 4 they added the bases which really changed it up instead of just hack and slash. I really am surprised they never remade 3 keeping the simplicity of it and adding elements that you couldn’t do before starting the game. Like selecting which generals and army, certain traps, ambushes or reinforcements in designated areas at a certain time during gameplay. On the enemies end it’s randomized so you don’t already know the trap is coming after the 100th time playing that level.
Remember playing on hard setting and then randomly reinforcements arrive or going down a narrow path and an enemy general ambushes you? Ie. Zhou Yu or Lu Xun setting fire traps, Guan Yu or Xiao Dun coming with reinforcements, Gongsun Zan or Gang Ning popping out of nowhere while you’re running down the narrow paths.
13:16 Lu Bu got a bit of character development where he trusts Chen Gong and realises that strength alone cannot win battles
Right, they need more of it! In DW9, Lu Bu actually gets fed up with Chen Gong and basically tells him to shut up lol
oh the Hypothetical Ending for Lu Bu in DW8XL was just perfect in my eyes
@@xherdos400 I play his story so much even until this day, it was just soooooooooooo good.
They should do a DW4 remake, that game lu bu was hard to kill and most of times you have to run.
-Duels
-bodyguards
-Character creation
-character unlock
-alternative story’s( you select which battle to take)
Yep, 3 4 5 remakes Id be down for
2 would be best he was nearly impossible to kill
@@mathewlang7436 Hahahaha makes me think of all the times I'd have Him down to His last sliver of Life, then I'd accidentally knock Him down and He'd get up and make a FULL recovery! Smh
They should bring back bodyguards or even a small army that follow you like they used too when each general had there separate army’s and it told you who they belonged too
I think the main focus that dw10 should take is realism. Creating a game that's closer to the real 3 kingdoms would not only attract new players to the series but would be a breathe of fresh air to og dynasty warriors characters.
I'm not saying they have to get every single part of the 3 kingdoms from start to finish cause that's obviously unrealistic but this would be a great way to. Make old battles seem fresh again.
Yes! if they can find a way to have two modes both real and hypothetical thatd be sick but probably too much to ask for
I appreciate with 9 they tried something new with open world. But nobody asked for it and the world felt empty and bland. I wish they would kinda reset back to 4 and have linier stages and cutscenes etc
Yeah if they filled up and had good VA it would have been a great game
i actually liked what 9 tried to do with the map, it made battles feel like battles with actual decisions that needed to be made, which is why it would've been the perfect game for the "What if" paths
The combo system has such a bigger impact on gameplay than it's given credit for. I wholeheartedly agree with you about how combat feels in DW9. I've missed this franchise so much and I decided to re-download DW9 on my Xbox. No joke, I played for 15 minutes and immediately remembered why I uninstalled it. I miss leveling up weapons in DW4 and doing hidden quests to get the best items. I grew up playing DW4 since I was in elementary school, and I remember my amazement when I found out that you could actually have red hare for yourself. I don't know what I'll do if DW10 doesn't take a step in the right direction. It has been a really sad decade becoming disenchanted with the games I grew up being fascinated by...
Absolutely agree, unfortunately I will buy anything that they produce because Im a sucker for the game and memories and the natural curiousity of how they shaped my favorite franchise always gets the best of me. I really hope they do take a good passionate step with DW10, because while I do appreciate the innovation and experimentation of DW9, it just seems like it was released with no passion
@@TheNightowlGaming Here's my stance on DW9; DW9 is like a chocolate bunny on Easter... You look in your basket and see the big chocolate bunny that looks delicious and you can't wait to tear into it. Unfortunately to your dismay, when you finally take that first bite, you find out the chocolate bunny is hollow and you essentially were given a shell.
@@Th3UglyP1atypus Yeah thats it lol
Nah forreal i miss the old combo system. I am somewhat okay with dw9 combo system but it felt bit dull while fun. the problem is for me the rest of the game is pretty dull which just emphasizes the overall dullness of whats suppose to be the main fun thing of the game. Truthfully with the dw9 combo system i feel like they got a foundation that they can work on and make better, i do hope to see elements of the old combo sytem come back.
The leveling of the weapons along with seeing the stats of your character go up was extremely satsifying, what was even more satsifying like how oc pointed out was the hidden quest for ultimate weapons (like accidently prompting one and trying to figure out how that happen and when completed the stun/happiness/surprise to see you gained a ultimate gear (weapon, item, horse, etc). Then trying to find out the others either by looking online or being explorative on the way you do battles to see if theres any pecuilur (yes i know i spelt that wrong), thats what i ended up doing in dw8 for the hypotheticals. That should had never been removed
What if…
Dynasty Warriors X incorporates the character switching mechanic from the Samurai Warriors games which allows players to handle various objectives without the need to babysit the other characters while doing some important stuff.
I wouldnt mind that at all 😁
This video made me remember how much of a trainwreck DW9 was...... I've been playing DW all my life but I've only really played a couple of the games, just A LOT of those specific games. Mainly 8XLCE, I was so hyped for 9 but then they started revealing the characters and their weapons and it all started crumbling, then the voice acting and the barren open world. The DLC weapons pissed me off so much when I saw them. Also my boy Chen Gong got done dirty with that sickle fuck the sickle.
Also fucking British Bond Villain Lu Bu is the funniest shit but also the saddest.
Absolutely true, one of the worst, hopefully they learn and come back with a bang
I completely agree with everything said, and I've been thinking about it for quite some time.
I'd like to add a couple of points myself:
1. Bringing back parrying: In the classic entries of the series (as well as in 6), the game's difficulty could genuinely challenge the player, and the parrying system saved my life countless times. In the subsequent parts of the series, due to the overall lower difficulty of the games, the need for parrying disappeared, along with the parrying system itself.
2. Abandoning the open world idea: I don't believe that Koei's budget would allow them to create a new installment at a high enough quality level to prevent the open world in this game from feeling empty, without sacrificing anything. I'm all in favor of it, but if we realistically assess their capabilities, we either get an average game with an open world, or a 10/10 game in the classic instanced style.
True until theyre ready for a good RPG open world element, just stick to what works
I had to sell DW 8 or 9 and 8 won out because of character creation. It is a game that me and my wife play together and its the only thing that keeps my wife loving the game, also when she used the Crossed Pike the first time, she wont use anything else now...
Haha nice thats so cool 🔥
I stopped playing after 5. We told them we wanted online play and to be able to order our troops around. I said if I didn't get online play I was giving gaming up. Haven't gamed since 2009, but I still enjoy watching others play or complain, occasionally.😂
There was a hack in 5 to get a bodyguard as strong as a general who could heal you. Only character she couldn't beat on her own was Lu Bu.
Haha yep the bodyguards were dope in DW5! And makes sense thatd be a nice feature
Dynasty Warriors 5 and Empires 5 were amazing. The OG Samurai Warriors too. Bring back bodyguards that you level up, Easter egg cut scenes, duals, gates that are difficult to breach, stronger foot soldiers, archery, gates guards, ambushes, less fictional characters, specialists abilities like lighting bases on fire, traditional weapon ups like you mentioned. They gave away so much for more characters.
Yea they need depth in the game
Join the PlayStation master race.
Producer has already confirmed that the open world isn't returning.
Hell, I wouldn't mind making characters different ala Warriors Orochi 3 where all characters with shared weapons have unique charge attacks.
For weapons, I'd like the DW4 weapon exp system to come back, but if weapon swapping is here to stay, I'm okay taking the DW7 approach, specifically the DW7XL approach where common weapons can be purchased but the high tier weapons require specific conditions on high difficulty.
For character progression, I like the level system but I also like a branching skill tree that lets me pick what my character focuses on and in what order. SW4-2 and SW5 do this decently. DW6 actually has a version of this I really enjoy where everyone gets different skills so there's a reason to use different characters.
DW9 combat can stay in DW9. The combo system of old can be made better. How about every charge attack be branching. Like every charge can have up to three stages but only if that's your EX weapon. And keeping the DW7-8 style Musou attacks works to keep combat more fast paced.
Keep the DW4 approach to new characters. One per kingdom max. You can add more per DLC. But quality over quantity, please.
The combat of Dynasty Warriors won't be like Wo Long. If you want Wo Long combat, you can play Wo Long. Dynasty Warriors has always been an accessable to everyone game and people want all these intricate gameplay mechanics but then it stops being Dynasty Warriors. You can have a fun game without convoluted gameplay. And when they tried adding things like grapples and counter attacks to spice up combat, it had severe backlash (Dynasty Warriors 6).
I think that giving characters more scenes would be fantastic. DW7XL does this amazingly well. If you can't play it, definitely watch the cutscenes on TH-cam. WO3 took heavy inspiration on it's character relationships from DW7XL.
I actually really like the DW7/DW8 story approach. Give characters some time to shine. DW9 was trying something new and the risk didn't pay off. It was incredibly empty and battles felt incredibly unintuitive. People thought Renbu was bad, but DW9 was mash square/X until triangle/Y pops up on screen.
Past costume DLC is here to stay. It's easy post game revenue.
KT this comment right here, take notes! BUt yeah I pretty much agree with you, the intricate fighting system would be good in pieces if they did experiment with it. I actually like the grapple attacks from DW6 🥲 but other than that I agree with pretty much everything else!
They should bring back Dynasty Warriors 3 soldier uniforms, all of them had had the cleanest fit; especially the strategists.
Yeah the soldier uniforms were pretty fire back then
Nice, lots to agree with there. I do think you forgot to mention co-op. One of my favorite reasons to play the series. Also the reason I bought the 4th back in the day. Things started getting weird around 8 empires and then 9 only did it forever after It's release. I actually purchased it after that update and had a decent time. Enjoy Wo Long!
I did forget to mention co op, it's not somehting i really think about since i mainly play solo, but it is a good point and oh man is wo long toughhhh haha
co-op is an absolute must ... still can't believe empires 9 has no co-op
Something else which I feel has gotten worse is that in the Early games, characters were badass and macho. And intimidating etc. But now I'm fighting more teenage looking girl characters ... completely takes me out of character
LOL thats a good point, yeah the red and lightning aura that certain characters had was badass
I totally agree that's why I honestly prefer old school Dynasty Warriors as DW2 and DW3 are my personal favorite renditions of the "General" characters and of the generic officers as well
D9 to me seemed very unfinished but the baseline was there. I for one enjoyed the open world concept but it wasnt finished in D9. I think it could work with current gen consoles only. Imagine the amount of enemies on screen with better, tougher and improved AI. With more things to do in the open world.
As for the combo system, i liked it in D9 and always loved the old system so they could combine it in some way or have optional via menu optional. Either way im in the camp where i hope they stick with the open world but not opposed to the old style if they bring it back.
Yeah honestly didnt mind it, there is a lot they could do with it and if done right can be really fun and rewarding but I think the rumor is they're not going back to open world for dw10
I miss the bodyguards from dynasty warriors 3. You could have 8 of them and they leveled up and they had a progression to their armor the higher their level was.
Yeah that was cool!
that was one of my favorite systems, while i in ways prefer 4 due to the customization, i loved dw5 body guards. I feel like it brought more immersion to the game and characters. For example if the character is a officer or general, normally they would have guards with them. Also expanding on that, the characters who are among that status should technically be having a army (peons/troops) of their own that will follow them. i think dw3/dw4 there was a system like that but it was lowkey.
Basically they should have the body guards and troops that you can "raise/level up", customize how the function (lancers, calavary, archers, skirmishers) and be able to command them like how we can command our bodyguards.
This would bring more immersion and flair to the game because honestly i felt it was cool that the army would travel with us and fight the enemy... thats also when peons wasnt total push overs. At the end, being a general and officer with a strong army will feel great for everyone imo
I just want a tad bit more realism while remaining hack n slash. Combos with blood. It'd be insane if bodies stayed on the ground. Bring back levels, not open world. Just large battlefields. Bring back gates... closing off enemy reinforcements was one of the best parts. I think they should take away the system that tells you what to do as well... I used to love playing battles over and over finding out the best way to beat them.
Heck yeah, yeah I wouldnt mind mixing open world make it nice, fill it up and have the battles as separate battlefields, thatd be dope
Dynasty warrior 10 i want see
1 unique weapon
2 hypotical/hystorical route not just for kingdom but also for character as well
3 open world with new and old game play
4 create your own kingdom
5 AI
6 new officer from DW blast or even strikeforce
7 add strikeforce fury mode
8 voice acting
And many more
Heck yeah I agree with all except for maybe #7, but yeah hopefully the next game is good!
Here are the characters they should add for DW10 and reason:
1. Wei
*Zhang Yan - Commander in the Yellow Turban Rebellion who went on to lead the Heishan Bandits
*Cao Hong - Cousin of Cao Cao and Cao Ren, a greedy man and womanizer, one of the 8 Tiger Generals
*Cao Ang - Cao Cao's eldest son, gave his own life and let his father use his horse to escape the assassination attempt at Wan Castle
2. Wu
*Zu Mao - One of Sun Jian's first generals, slain at Sishui gate in a duel by Hua Xiong
*Zhu Zhi - One of the five elders, Helped Sun Ce in his conquest of Wu by betraying Xu Gong while under the guise of an adviser
*Pan Zhang - Ruthless officer who participated in slaying Guan Yu, it was said that he claimed Guan Yu's spear as a prize
3. Shu
*Liao Hua - Former Yellow Turban, witnessed every event during the era of the Three Kingdoms from start to finish
*Sun Qian - One of Liu Bei's first advisers who formerly served Tao Qian
*Shamoke - Tribalman who was King of the Five Valleys Region. Ambushed and killed Gan Ning in Yi Ling
4. Jin
*Wang Jun - Led the fight at Jianye and forced Sun Hao to surrender
5. Other
*He Jin - Imperial Warlord who crushed the Yellow Turban Rebellion
*Zhang Rang - Eunuch whose role in the Corruption of the Imperial Han sparked a series of events such as the Yellow Turban Rebellion
*Gongsun Zan - Ruler of Ji Territory and founder of the White Riders, Zhao Yun first served under him, his forces were defeated by Yuan Shao
*Wu Tugu - Barbarian King who served Meng Huo, The tallest warrior in the Three Kingdoms era
*Huche'er - A foreign mercenary who participated in the assassination attempt on Cao Cao, the only Non-Chinese warrior in the Three Kingdoms
Some solid recommendations!
If they could just bring back the voice acting, and destiny more, I'd play it for years till the next DW came out. I hate the voice acting in 9 so much.
Yes!
For me the way dw8 xtreme legends was made is the best. I still play it to this day. I mean ambition mode was so good!!
I still need to play it
@@TheNightowlGaming Holy moly, DW8 XL is really good.
You broke it down for us & Koei! I think us fans agree with you!
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Every VA should read RoTK and know who they’re character is. I want to really feel the beef and friendship
100% 🔥🔥
Things they need to bring back to DW10
(My List)
Campaign mode similar to DW4
Bodyguards with name customization and troop type.
Weapon leveling up system back from DW4.
Customized character playable on all factions on Campaign mode.
Customization of OC's
Free Mode
Challenge Mode
VS mode
Xtreme Legends
More characters
(Wei: Xiahou En, Wang Lang
Wu: Late Wu kings (not Sun Quan) and Ding Feng's son and some other Idk who else to name.
Shu: Ma Su, Ma Liang, Wang Ping, Fei Yi, Zhao Lei.
Other: Ma teng, Ma Xiu, Ma Tie, Tian Feng, He Jin, Huangfu Song, Zhu jun, Li Jue, Gongsun Zan.
Add more items and elements.
Have more weapons for bodyguards.
Gate Guards need to comeback
Each character need their own fighting style instead of a clone same moves.
Finally
Morale System needs to return.
I agree!
Honestly the best DW content on youtube
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I say these things.
1. Weapon Affinity. I love that Rock Paper Scissors Element.
2. Unique Weapons. Screw Realism, I want whackiness and fun in my games that have magical elements in them.
3. Dueling. 4 is so fun because of how it implemented D-D-D-D-D-D-D-D-Duels.
4. Mix and match the DW8&9 English Casts. 9 had some good casting, wouldn't change the newer characters, however the rest would be better being someone else, I at times mistook Cao Xiu and Zhang He due to their voices.
5. Make Lu Bu impossible to go through at Hu Lao Gate. Self explanatory.
6. Conquest Mode. Make it a mixture of DW7's take and your precious Destiny Mode.
7. Personalized Storylines. By that I mean make each character be the primary focus of their own Storyline while telling the bigger Story at hand, think Li Dian's story of working alongside Zhang Liao, that was mentioned in 9 and 8, however we saw what, 3 moments in 9? And 0 in 8 beyond a slight mention in He Fei.
8. Hypothetical Scenarios for DLC. Specifically stuff like Lu Bu joining Cao Cao, a Wei Kingdom Civil War lead by Cao Cao's sons, what have you.
9. All past costumes for all characters from all the past games. That includes Dynasty Tactics 1&2.
10. Expand Wei's Overall Story to include Cao Rui's time.
I agree, all these things would make the game so much better
First Sex Gravy, then Chris Gildart and now The Nightowl. 3 EPIC videos about what could be done with DW10. YESSIR!! XD
I gotta have to say all these are incredibly fun and interesting ideas that I'd totally love. Especially agree with the Easter Egg cutscenes, Destiny Mode and Duelling.
If they keep the open world, I think one way they could do it is have the open world only when you're not fighting and you progress the story by talking to characters to start the battle like DW7&8 camps. And once you do, the map gets cut off and you'll have battles just like in the older games. Once the battle is done we transition back into the open world where you can still go and grind and do whatever an open world game should offer you to do. Also to prevent players from maxing out the character before playing the story they could just add some kind of timer and if you don't start the battle manually the timer will start it for you. That being said I am no video game expert, but that's just something I came up with haha.
Haha yep! and it's an interesting idea, I could see it, as long as they fill up the open world and give it more life, more quests and stuff, I would have no problem with it!
I could care less if the weapons are the same, but with different movesets, it counters the officers who uses the same weapons. 💯
What I really want is Koei to make more officers for Other Forces!! They need to make Zhang Jiao's two brothers (Bao and Liang) into playable characters or at least a real separate NPC like they did with Hua Xiong in DW9!! Also make Yuan Shao's sons playable, (Yuan Tan, Yuan Xi, Yuan Shang) and notable officers Wen Chou and Yuan Shu, Gongsun Zan. Then from the Nanman Tribe, make Yong Kai, King Mulu, Ahui Nan playable. And from Dong Zhuo's force, make Li Jue, Fan Chou, Guo Si and Xu Rong playable. On Lu Bu's side, make Gao Shun, Hou Cheng and Cao Xing. 💯 This will make the Other Forces' story more exciting!! 🔥🙏
Xu rong about dat! Jk I agree just always think that line when I see xu rongs name
For sure! I think they need to develop others before adding new ones, unless they do both which would be aweseome and same idc about same weapons just make em different!
they must bring back versus mode too!!! especially now, where you can play it online
Definitely would be a cool mode, as long as they have co op im coo with that
I agree with you man, the hypotheticals in 8 were great, it should be the way to go now.
Right!
I kinda hope the next game would make our allied officers actually useful, every fight 'X' officer is in trouble and its reslly stupid when its a standard random named enemy defeats someone like Lu Bu
Yeah.. hopefully theyve learned
Bit late, but here's my idea, I think for dynasty warriors 10, they should try do a reboot for the series, similarly to samurai warriors 5 ( obviously do it better this time), this allows more detail of each story points of each time period, and allow us, the gamer to fully feel the experience of time. They should also do a split of each time period, where from the first instalment goes from yellow turban arc to the battle of Chibi ( Red Cliffs) , which establishes the "3 dynasty" of Wei, Shu and Wu. Hopefully, this allows the game to go more detail with each battle (similar to dynasty warriors 4, where in yellow turban arc, they displayed 3 stages, rather than one in future instalments), I really hated how the battle of Guandu (where yaun shao Lost) wasn't fully displayed, as it should've displayed the full strategic might of Cao Cao, and marked an important historic point for him as well . Or even have a solo mission for Zhao Yun or even Zhang Fei for the battle of Changban when Zhao Yun has to rescue Liu Shan Or holding the bridge for a certain time period.
Combat:
Even though i disliked dynasty warriors 9 changed of weapon system, it is still something refreshing, and I think with some balancing issues, and maybe deleting / adding a new mechanic to it would probably fix it. By cutting down only the roasters that appeared during that time period would allow more all officers to have their own unique weaponries. Just move all dynasty warriors 8 weaponries to dynasty warriors 10 if they are lazy to think of new ones, at least they all have unique weapons. I think they should also add +1 or + 2 of new officers for each factions.
Ageing system:
To fully experience the passing of time, I think only characters that appears from Yellow turban Arc should only receive the aging system , I think Koei Tecmo is going to be a bit lazy about this specific part. I also think for some characters, they should also receive a weapon change (similarly to samurai warriors 5), for example Lui Bei at the start of the game, uses one sword, while after finding Zhuge Liang (and ageing) uses a twin blade (similarly to the 3 kingdom (2010) show).
AI
Ramp this difficulty by 10x, reduce the amount of units appearing. allow officers to die on the battlefield as time passes (so that time is a meaningful issue)
New modes
Dynasty warriors 5 Xtreme legends, and hypothetical time-line . Nuff said.
Ive actually been opposed to the different sections games idea but if it allows for more in depth character story and increased chemistry among the characters, im all for it. Thats all I want, an interesting well in depth story based game with a challenging yet rewarding combat system. They can do it
I just gonna put this out there. Better horse fighting among officers or at least weapon clashing on horses.
Thatd be a nice quality of life improvement
Dynasty Warriors 4 HD Remake with only Hard mode. And if your character dies in battle, its not game over, you just switch to playing a different character on the battlefield.
Interesting choice or that as a mode would be cool too
I remember they gave everyone on Warriors Orochi 3 there own unique charge attacks if they shared the same weapons like Sima Zhao and Sun Jian both used the sword moves set but both had completely different charge attacks and that was fun.
absolutely
I disagree with you wanting those Easter egg missions back because I despise being forced to play on any difficulty above normal. But, I do agree with the rest of your points. I love the character creation part and would have loved a revamped destiny mode.
Thats fair, but if they did implement it, it would be an optional thing for those who dont mind grinding those kind of aspects for the game (me lol)
Point 1: weapons: Agree. "Realistic" weapons and unique but different style. Progression /item over craft, yes.
2: Agree. Extra modes are welcome.
3: Absolutely agree. AI that moves/blocks, attacks > AI that has more Hp. Dw3
Awesome to read, appreciate the kind words!
They should bring back the combo and keep the skills system just like Samurai Warriors 5 ,they already did that in Warrior orochi 4 with the magic system
Yeha!
Your dead on the money lad. Agree with all you say. I would love for them to remaster DW5 on the side. Best game of the franchise
I wouldnt mind them remastering all the early games
I remember play the olds DW and get scared when Lu Bu intro cinematic was show.
Haha right
3, 5 and 6 are the best you had bodyguards, cool strategy objectives, base takeovers. Now I haven't played DW after 7 i pretty much fell off because I did not like the crafts and stupid weapons you can use. I like the original main character weapons and that's it. Also a cool thing about 3 and 5 you had troops that were in groups that would follow you so you had bodyguards and troops!.
Also the AI was a lot better lol your people actually did something
Yeah AI was so much better, it was actually like you were fighting together instead of them standing around watching
6 was trash
Great vid as always bud
Appreciate the kind words! 🙏
8:40 They should bring it back but mix it with the new combo system from DW9.
Yes
There's only 1 game where Combo animations can be edited on-the-go in "Training session" or, permanently edited for real gameplay.
It is Dynasty Warriors Online Z. Editing weapon animation cost real money between $1 - $15 and it's kinda neat because the same weapon can be stronger or weaker depending on its animation movesets.
KOEI closed the service because the game is lacking players and it's using a Dynasty Warriors 5 Engine.
Mmmm so uniqueness in fighting style is definitely possilbe, they just need to have the passion to do it
This video certainly sums up all of what we need! I wholeheartedly agree!
Bases in some maps if not all? Outside of just in Empires. Always felt like Empires needed some Destiny mechanics. Both need to be expanded on and Destiny brought back. Bring open world to Empires. Bring back more customization and more impactful stratagems and bodyguards and units following you in Empires. Some of these are also applicable to the normal games!
In Empires, maybe have some base-building elements outside of the campaign map for your provinces, quests and NPCs filling up the world. Even your army patrolling around if you are occupying or in control of the province and they're fighting random skirmishes and such with the enemy. Just random ideas.
Yeah thatd be awesome, it would just make the game that much more fun and playable along with giving us fans enough content to continue to play over and over, who knows if theyll do it htough
Yeah i wouldnt mind if they give characters swords , spears ,pikes, bows , crossbows, halberds and so on (what was used back in ancient china) as long as each character had its own style for example Sun family could have similar movesets with slight changes on each character.
Yeah Sun family attacks is more animalistic and tigerish because of who they are, or the weapon itself resembles it. Alot they could do
Basically they'd be better off remastering Dynasty Warriors 3 or 4 lol which I agree with. Haven't enjoyed the games since 5
What didn't you like about 5? I thought the majority of old school fans thought dw5 was the epitome of classic warriors
@@ElPsyKongroo I loved 5, it’s the games after I couldn’t get into (not counting Xtreme Legends).
Think particularly the weapon swapping in later games annoyed me
@@ResevoirGod ah ok gotcha
I would be so down for that!
The Duel System I Missed that because I played Dynasty Warriors 5 first but damn it will give the game what it needs a Warrior focus. Nioh/Nioh 2 is a good example of letting the characters gameplay shine
True true
Only listened to the first point. This is all I’ve been wanting from the series since 3-5.
Haha lets go!
DW10 can be anything they want it to be. I just want DW5 to be ported on to the nintendo switch... best game of all Dynasty Warriors 😢
Haha yeah just remaster the old games if they're looking for easy money grabs, people would eat that up
Koei could also try starting a Korean Warriors series, that'd make Warriors Orochi 5 even moar lit
I'd be so in for that
14:10 this part is similar to Lu Lingqi since she denied the peace marriage from Yuan Shu claiming that his son is not man enough to be her husband
Hahah hell yeah, thatd be a cool little side thing to add
I'm replaying the old ones im.on number 4 right now still nothing compares to number 4 it's crazy
DW4 is a fan fave for sure
I played the hell out destiny mode on DW5. Love that concept.
it would be awesome in a modern game if done right
There was a voice actor strike I believe around the time of this game (Dw9) IIRC
Ohh that makes sense
I would like a wo long concept but more of a dynasty warriors feel
Trueee
I would kill for Destiny Mode! Getting to choose your faction, style, and what not. I would love that
It would be so dope!
@TheNightowlGaming absolutely. Everyone loves the ability to make their own choices and have an effect the outcome of the story. It would breath a lot of life in to a stagnant game
So I have a theory there was a voice actor strike during the development dynasty warriors . So they didn't wait for the strike to be over instead they just recasted everyone. And yeah matt Fowler the guy who voices zhuge liange did say that there was a lot of problems.and there a lot go dialogue so I think it was probably cheaper to hire indi actors to do these voices.
Yeah hopefully the developers learned from this
You can be a hardcore fan and not play on hardest mode......that's two separate things.
I do really want unique weapons back like ugh that's why I didn't get 9...I got empires but i literally protested 9 like it didn't work when yall did it before...why do it again.
Seriously miss the old combat system
Literally hours spent looking for easter eggs in older games
Do you play romance of three kingdoms the real time tactics games?
I love the idea of a fallout style dynasty warriors! That would make empire games sooooo much better. I was pissed when they went Open world with this and then I played empire and I was like....this underwhelming
Good points, good video
Appreciate the kind words and yeah a fallout style DW game would be so sick!
Dynasty warriors 10 better be on Xbox and PC as well... I think as a society, we are pass this generation exclusivity. Also I want that simplistic dw5 Musou mode back with the rng weapon 5 aspect
Yea thatd be sick!
They need to just let you start from a nobody to being a powerful officer or leader of a force as the nobody thing to being a peasant
Yeah that'd be cool
Great list! I agree with these suggestions. A dynasty return would be good. That leans more into choices you are making. Or maybe even add making choices into the main game to alter things and change up some battles. We have seen this story many times adding player decision making into it would be different and could be a lot of fun. Something i would really like to see is some aging for the characters throughout the timeline because it slays puts me off seeing cao cao when he wasn't recognized and then over the many years he looks the exact same... let these characters show some age as the time moves forward many years.
I agree, aging would be cool!
When DW9 came out, it was terrible. That was because of functionality; not lack of ambition. I disagree that DW9 was the result of a lack of passion on the developers part. Think about it. EVERY iteration of the series had its detractors. Fans constantly made complaints about the series. So developers grind their gears, trying to find something that fans AND new players can respond to. So they try different things. Then fans complain "why don't you do what you did in that old game?" BECAUSE we COMPLAINED ABOUT IT during the old game. We could all get together, have all our ideas put in the next game, and we'll still find something to complain about.
I think the consumer ALWAYS has a right to have performance issues addressed. However, if a new style or system is experimented with, I don't think that's worth accusing development teams of a lack of passion.
Definitely understand that for sure and Im a die hard and will always buy whatever they put out regardless because I love the game, the lore, etc.. Yes they cant make everyone happy ever. BUT in the case with DW9 and knowing what's out there on the market in terms of GOOD open world games there was so much they could have done with the game. And with no specific time limit needed for their game to come out I just think if they were truly passionate about pushing the open world they would have filled it up more and made it more fulfilling. Versus the way they have it now and theres not really any incentive to explore the open world at all. It's a vast wasteland that cant even be rummaged through. Was it complete and utter garbage, no, but as fans and im sure as developers themselves they know they could've done so much more with DW9 and an open world, just in my opinion
I'd honestly just take a DW3 and 3XL rerelease. It was the perfect game. 4 was great too but when I go back and play them it has aged worse than 3.
I wouldnt mind that at all!
15:35 I say Dynasty Warriors 8 does it best for this department.
I recently just got DW8XLCE and I agree, the best DW game to date
I would suggest bringing in weapons from Dynasty Warriors Online/ Online Z to the game with a revamp skill set that they had in the game.
I never played DWO but im down with that if it bring uniqueness!
I think the idea of having the characters use similar weapons but different move sets is a great idea! I’ve honestly have never really liked the more flashy weapons like the Flail Sword or Wing blades. Or the flying swords and etc. I’ve felt like those were TOO unrealistic. I like the idea of having weapons that are more grounded and more common at that time but still slaying 1000 people 😂. Zhao Yun and Ma Chao are great examples of having a similar weapon but different move set. This would allow for each character to also have their own uniqueness while still being grounded in their fighting style.
200% couldnt have said it better, would make the game feel better imo
DW9 really needed some polish and when I play it on a rainy day the idea of "missed potential" comes to mind. I hope they aren't discouraged from trying another open world game, but maybe instead of RTK they use something based off mythology, folklore, and classical literature. Imagine creating your own character and being inserted into the Journey West or Water Margin, or even an OW Orochi type game with an original story.
Yeah whatever they wanna do, as long as they make DW10 a banger
Yes i hope.
Dw3 and Dw4 were the golden era
So good
I never know someone spam machao with house on DW5 zhou tai also doing the same but he had less attack range
Yepp!
Commenting a bit late but I want to say that I hope DW10 will be the combination of: Body Guard system from DW4, Destiny Mode from DW5XL, no clone weapon from DW8XL + 8E, and finally the extremely difficult AI from DW4, DW6, DW7 or SW4 - 4II. As for the Empires game series, taking the standards from DW7E is more than enough.
100%
I want gan nings old fighting style when he was a pirate I loved his style in 4
100% or the daggers, those wee cool too
I would love a hyperthetical (other) faction.. perhaps a Han dynasty faction where the focus is yuan shao and his accomplices .. They can create something really special. ❤
they absolutely can!
My personal changes for a *Dynasty Warriors 10* ,this is my own opinion btw:
-Have all characters their own individual weapons(no cloned movesets like DW6,DW7 AND DW9 had).
-Keeping the current voice actors from DW8(seriously the DW9 and the DW3 voice acting is bad as hell)
-Having Musou mode in the same fashion like DW2, DW3,DW5 and DW6 had for the characters.
-Returning the character creation from DW4.
-Adding the Destiny Mode from DW5 as an individual musou mode for the custom characters.
-All character having alternate costimes from the past DW games(no color pallete changes/color swaps).
-Each character MUST have their own 4th,5th AND 6th weapons.
-Duel system from DW4 making a comeback.
-No Bow combat.
-Keeping the dodge mechanic from DW6.
-Having the open world the ENTIRE China.
-All characters from the Dynasty Warriors series MUST return(no missing any characters).
-Musou Mode for each character will be in different categories for each faction: Shu,Wei,Wu,Jin,Other,Yellow Turbans,Yuan Shao,Dong Zhuo,Nanman and lastly,Lu Bu.
-Having the option to change the music before entrering the battle.
-The combat system DESERVES camera control movement if you want to see the area in 360.
-Having the option to use strategies in the middle of the battle(like how DW5 Empires had).
-Historcial/Hypothetical stories NEED to return.
-Basic Combat and Horse Combat need to be balanced.
-The enemy AI needs to be balanced so there won't be a 1 VS 1,000.
-The Allied/Enemy NPC's AI needs to work perfectly balanced,otherwise they'll be ALWAYS struggling against the enemy.
-Bodyguards need to be customizable and you can add different names like how DW3 XL had. You can also change their default name for each bodyguard. You can have a certain number of bodyguards and you can give them orders to attack or defend.
That's pretty much about it,to be honest. I hope you'll agree with me once you read this comment.
I definitely agree with everything you said! ALl things that would make the game better
I'm PRAYING that the developers don't cave to the nostalgic neckbeards and scrap the open-world concept. Netherrealm Studios did that w/Mortal Kombat when they decided to stop competing with the big boy fighting games and went back to 2D. Open-world IS the way to go so long as they do it right. Sadly, the devs for Dynasty Warriors have a long-standing tradition of not taking their games seriously and marketing them towards small children.
super unfortunate, lets hope that DW10 is a massive and better overhaul
What they need to do is take inspiration from the older dynasty warriors , like dw3-dw5, the weapons , the fighting styles , every character was unique even with the same weapon, like Da Qiao and Xiao Qiao
exactly
I can't see us ever getting another Xtreme Legends. The Capcom put an end to that. It's why we got SW4-II instead of SW4XL.
Also, the XL games never released on Xbox because for whatever reason Xbox consoles don't support disc swapping. Thus why SW2XL was released as DLC rather than its own title on the 360.
As for voice acting, I'd love the older cast to come back but I'm under the impression that they went non-union for DW9 as it was getting too expensive to fund the English VA. I can't comment on the quality as I played it through with the Chinese dub that they finally done.
Yeah Im sure they have the budget to do so and if they have the passion to continue making the franchise what people love it for, I would hope they would try to return to their roots and enhance the empty characters
i miss DW4 bodyguards. I just want to have my own bodyguards/army where I levelup with them and they grow stronger tgt with me
Haha facts that was always cool
This series made sense to me when I was in high school but I don't feel like it grew with me.
The cast increasingly resemble visual kei stars and dont look chinese at all.
I really enjoyed the visuals of the Souten Kouro anime. One of the first things lubu did was squeeze someone's head so hard it exploded. What an entrance, now that is terrifying. Liu Bei gradually grew into his role as a hero and started out as a coward. Cao Cao started out as a hero and seemed to gradually lose his humanity to his ambition.
Just give me some story, some twists and some cool visuals. And cut down the cast by like half and i think i might give it a shot again.
I agree with a more in depth story, but cutting the roster I don't think it's necessary, I enjoy having a lot of characters, they just need to fill the empty ones
If open world is the norm moving forward than there absolutely needs to be more emphasis on connecting that to your normal gameplay through character enhancements or city building, for example. Perhaps capture a bandit holdout, fight back wild animals, protect merchants, rescue an important character.
Yes! Little quality of life would make it so much better
Yeah something like empires gameplay but something more fitting.. like..
We can have some and give some mission in the throne room, and there could be event..
For example, a transport for food supply or something.. and then there's messenger that tell us that there's bandit or enemy army that attacked us.. we have to get there and have actual strategical fight..
Bring back Zhang Liao's old voice, Ambition mode was fun building a city, an need English dub during battle because trying to read that tiny blurb at the bottom during a fight is distracting. Agree with pretty much everything on this list. Keep the body guards and bonds with characters from other army's.
Bring back most of the old voices! Haha but yeah, body guards and bonds would be cool too, the bonds could trigger more of those easter egg cutscenes
@@TheNightowlGaming different pairings of characters or weapons get custom double Musou attacks.
@@derekshropshire2513 oh yeah i remember the special musou with another character, so dope
They just need to go back to how it was I think in 6 and 7, then modernize - 3 main characters from the 3 main kingdoms, and then as you do their stories, you unlock other characters.
You can have endings similar to how Romance of the Three Kingdoms wrote it, with a little bit of variation based on how it would play out in gameplay, but then also, you can have some levels with characters where it goes in a different directions when you win. Like he said as far as if Sun Jian would’ve lived or Sun Ce. Or shit, even Lu Bu’s story - the game has often portrayed him as nothing more than a disloyal beast, but he was so much more than that in the book. Also the game typically has him as like a one and done thing at Hu Lao gate, but in the book, he actually rose up after that, allied with Liu Bei for a time and then was betrayed and executed.
There should be more nods to how their stories were told in the book, and then can switch it up a little based on who you’re playing with.
Also, open world was horribly done, takes way too long if you’re trying to experience every character. Go back to stages. And I agree on the combos, weapons, the cut scenes/dubbed. They switched everything in 9 and it was horribly executed. Also, in 8, how the Jin and post-Cao Cao Wei characters have the unrealistic weapons like giant drills and flying swords and shit like that. Like wtf are you doing. They gave Liu Shan a bench as a weapon, a fuxxing bench! Like what?!
the destiny mode you explained should be its own standalone game
Nah it would be cool integrated into the game, a nice fulfilling game is what we want
The running from lubu in the early games because you had no shot. Or even wrecking ma chao. And the general being like the hell killed that man. And your created general was like. Was me dog i slain him. 4 was my favorite btw bcuz of that create a char. I started with dw3. And began my journey with zhang he. Now i like just about everyone.
Awesome, Zhang He is who I started with too!
Blood & gore Dlc please, more like an add-on in total war series, for adult player, and make corpses stay longer on the battlefield
Yes! Im totally in for that too
You know what i missed? Custom cut scenes. It would be nice to bring that back!
thatd be coo!
Haha. For the last week. I've been playing dw5 xtreme legends on my ps2. Extreme mode and destiny mode is great. This is by far my favorite dw. I wish they would make another one exactly like it 😄 great video.
If they remaster it I would have no problem, appreciate the kind words!
The combo's in DW9 are overpowered.. When you did combos in earlier DW games you had consider the time you had to execute and the amount of enemies around.. You wouldn't just rush to the middle of the crowd unless your combo's have been upgraded enough
Very true
I feel the problem with DW9's system is that even your smallest swipe extended ridiculously far, as if you had two or three Wind Scrolls equipped, it was ridiculous. therefore every character feels far too similar.
I just have one small request, I want them to give liu bei his mustache and gotee back 😅
Haha yeah!
He has them in DW9 a bit into his story. He starts off young and ages, I actually rather liked Liu Bei's portrayal in DW9.
DW when it had 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th weapon was so good. Now there's 10 different versions of the same weapon that does the same thing with the same stats. They look cool don't get me wrong but it does get rid of a character's "signature weapon"
100% loved the evolution aspect into a unique looking weapon along with unique features and stats
I think moving to open world killed the pacing of the game, bring back standalone levels with plenty of spectacle, hypothetical conditions to meet and side quests and I would be happy. I'd also be happy if they didn't introduce a new playable character if it meant fleshing out some of the current roster, bringing less important characters more into the spotlight and ramping the individuality on their fighting styles. TLDR, quality not quantity.
Absolutely! I agree, whichever way they go as long as its filled and fulfilling
I agree with most of this!
Nice!