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    In this video, Did You Know Gaming takes a look at a complete history of cut Pokémon in Generation 1 and 2! Pichu from Gold and Silver was originally round, and there were plans to include a creepy voodoo doll!
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  • @DidYouKnowGamin
    @DidYouKnowGamin  4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    Check out Ben and PushDustIn's Podcast on Cut Pokemon here: th-cam.com/video/OR6ViX1FLwU/w-d-xo.html

    • @ptsdpuppygirl
      @ptsdpuppygirl 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hi

    • @Memorie__
      @Memorie__ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      hello. content is good.
      Idk why I’m talking like this,

  • @joshuas.g.g.4951
    @joshuas.g.g.4951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +761

    The Gold & Silver Beta leak felt like a missing piece of a puzzle I never knew I wanted solved. Suddenly, so many things made sense. Remoraid randomly evolving into Octillery? Umbreon's Gold dex entry talking about random poison when it was Dark-type? Girafarig's palindromic name, but its design not reflecting it? Scyther having an evolution, but where was Pinsir's? What was up with the "Shellder" latched onto Slowbro/Slowking?
    Seeing all this cut content, it felt like we peered into some alternate universe. How strangely magical and bizarre. I hope some of these get a shot at reappearing one day... particularly Meowth's pre-evolution. Thing's adorable.

    • @primrosevale1995
      @primrosevale1995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Remoraid and Octillery are still both based on weaponry, it's just not as evident.

    • @winslowwidd79
      @winslowwidd79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Exactly! I love early Gamefreak designs, their just so bizarre and lovable. Something about the Gameboy's (color) sprite work that just makes the imagination go wild. Like there's just enough there to get the picture, but not enough to know for sure.

    • @BIZaGoten
      @BIZaGoten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      How does Girafarig's name not reflect the design? Girafarig is two giraffes combined and the name is also basically "giraffe" combined twice

    • @primrosevale1995
      @primrosevale1995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      @@BIZaGoten The art used in the video is of the beta design. Girafarig's rear half in the final design looks more like a real giraffe and just has a small round toothy head on its tail.

    • @BIZaGoten
      @BIZaGoten 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @@primrosevale1995 Yeah my bad lol.

  • @SupaPhly0
    @SupaPhly0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1219

    "so what you're in for?"
    "for leaking pokemon"

    • @freddyalejo1657
      @freddyalejo1657 4 ปีที่แล้ว +101

      HELP ME!! PUT ME IN SOLITARY CONFINEMENT OR SEND ME TO THE CHAIR, I DON'T CARE, JUST GET ME AWAY FROM THIS MANIAC!!!

    • @littleNorwegians
      @littleNorwegians 4 ปีที่แล้ว +91

      "And you?"
      "Sold Soulja Game handheld Boy online for 89,99 on-sale."

    • @Schellsea
      @Schellsea 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      @@littleNorwegians *slides away down the bench*

    • @crispitycrunchy
      @crispitycrunchy 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Legend

    • @jaborsey_joseph
      @jaborsey_joseph 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Huh, I'm here for leaking digimon....
      ....and also ya know, selling drugs.

  • @Exkaiber
    @Exkaiber 4 ปีที่แล้ว +415

    “Gorochu was cut from the games due to issues regarding game play balance”
    Gen 1 where psychic types were only weak to bug, no STAB dragon or ghost moves, special stat was for both special attack and special defense, critical hits were based on speed, leech seed and toxic combined did more damage, normal types couldn’t be paralyzed by body slam, focus energy lowered critical hit ratio, when hyper beam knocks out a Pokemon it doesn’t need recharging, waking up from sleep took a full turn, wrap combined with agility, multi hit moves that were critical on the first hit had all hits be critical, couldn’t thaw out of being frozen unless hit with a fire move.
    ...balanced...yeah....

    • @SwiftCreationStudio
      @SwiftCreationStudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Most of those issues were bugs. obviously yeah there was a few issues in balance beyond that but bugs can't really be accounted for immediately even with the best laid plans and when they require some rather extensive set up it's not going to be caught.
      Gen 1 didn't exist when a patch could just be pushed out online it would require a massive recall of all the carts and even then it would not be all of them.
      That or you're need to push an event that also patched the game... good luck in gen 1 where pokemon isn't worth the across the country/world trip

    • @wherethetatosat
      @wherethetatosat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      And it's not even like Raichu was packing huge stats to begin with.

    • @SwiftCreationStudio
      @SwiftCreationStudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      ​@@wherethetatosat Raichu's stats have very little to do with whatever they were planning for Gorochu's perhaps goro was on par with mewtwo or something and perhaps by the time what you claim as "to begin with" which is actually the end they eliminated Goro and nerfed Raichu for the same, probably misconceived reason. you'd have to see Goro's stats and Beta Raichu to know.

    • @DJIVision
      @DJIVision 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      According to Ken Sugimori, the balance issue was actually about having too many 3 stage Pokemon -- so they cut about half a dozen 3 stage families down to 2 stages, including the Pikachu, Psyduck, Meowth, Ponyta, Cubone, and Goldeen families.

    • @Karuminu2
      @Karuminu2 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Seriously? Normal types never missed a turn when paralyzed?
      Well, thanks to people like Satoru Iwata, these bugs were fixed and Pokemon gen 2 to gen 5 were a hit. After his unfortunate passing, I definitely noticed changes for the worst since gen 6.

  • @NanaKyoto
    @NanaKyoto 4 ปีที่แล้ว +529

    If they had kept that one Pokémon, then Slowpoke's evolution into Slowbro would make a lot more sense.
    But aside from that, imagine living in a timeline where all these cut Pokémon were actually in the final games.

    • @pokechatter
      @pokechatter 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Guess we can only hope that they'll reappear officially someday.

    • @milliondollarmistake
      @milliondollarmistake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      So many of them are good looking but then you have ones like gen 2 Mime Jr. and....yeesh.
      I'm really curious what a Ditto evolution would do. This was before Imposter so would it just be faster and/or bulkier to make it easier to get Transform off or would it turn into a full fledged fighter?

    • @gothicbertram7917
      @gothicbertram7917 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      I wish the Cat Stayed

    • @casandramedranobock8685
      @casandramedranobock8685 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      Shiro-Luna in my own head canon I like to think that all beta and cut Pokémon still exist in the canon Pokémon world as undiscovered/sub species of the Pokémon we have now.

    • @Yous0147
      @Yous0147 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I honestly think most of them look great, and personally, I prefer them over many of the newer Pokemon as well as a good few of the earlier ones as well.

  • @YadonTheCat
    @YadonTheCat 4 ปีที่แล้ว +348

    That "corpse of a panda" is a jiang-shi, a Chinese zombie

    • @Trimint123
      @Trimint123 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Make sense, considering Pokemon did had a base from Yokais.

    • @gandalfgaming4575
      @gandalfgaming4575 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      yeah, its just like those zombie human guys from that japanese kingdom in mario land. just like that.

    • @nicodalusong149
      @nicodalusong149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      A hopping vampire to be more precise. The english name would have definitely been Vampanda or something like it.

  • @TheWeaslbee
    @TheWeaslbee 4 ปีที่แล้ว +73

    talks about Barunda "It seems jigglypuff would go on to take his spot"
    *cries in Drifloon*

    • @sap6231
      @sap6231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I love Drifloon and Drifblim, its cute thats why, and also its pretty good in the main game

    • @wumpus976
      @wumpus976 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It’s also got a horrific Pokédex entry

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      And Jumpluff. I think this is a case of getting cut for being too... boring.
      Some ideas just... needed work for being incomplete. Like that sunfish>shark>deep water fish line.... that doesn't make sense as an evolutionary lineage. But it seemingly got split into 3 different evolutionary lines and reused.

  • @mechashadow
    @mechashadow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +253

    This explains why Wartortle feels off from the rest of the chain.
    Bugged me since I was a kid because it’s the only design I liked in the chain,

    • @JAMllostthegame
      @JAMllostthegame 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Same. Maybe because Squirtle was my first starter, but Wartortle's design and cry was one of my favorites back then.

    • @auxelleshan
      @auxelleshan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here ✋

    • @LinkEX
      @LinkEX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Yeah, that was my biggest Aha-moment in this video.
      Way back, I actually stalled evolving Wartortle to Blastoise at first since I liked that mysterious feathery design much more.

    • @kimgkomg
      @kimgkomg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I think Blastoise is cool but Wartortle is by far my favorite

    • @originaluseername
      @originaluseername 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      and?

  • @cherubin7th
    @cherubin7th 4 ปีที่แล้ว +307

    Gen 1 had "game balance"?

    • @MemoryCardShow
      @MemoryCardShow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Let's all pretend!

    • @oshikuru09
      @oshikuru09 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      Ya it's simple.. earthquake everyone unless they fly, then you thunderbolt 🤣

    • @ongakuwotabeta
      @ongakuwotabeta 4 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      oshikuru09 Actually, Blizzard.

    • @theobuniel9643
      @theobuniel9643 4 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      *_laughs in Psychic type_*

    • @Compucles
      @Compucles 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ongakuwotabeta No, Ice Beam (which even takes out Charizard and Moltres due to Fire not resisting Ice in the first gen), although you still need Thunderbolt for Gyarados and Articuno.

  • @Marcosatsu
    @Marcosatsu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +394

    I thought for sure Dr. Lava would've been the choice for something like this.

    • @RetroAli
      @RetroAli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Same. :/

    • @geoleo965
      @geoleo965 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Me too.

    • @RowansReviews
      @RowansReviews 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We all have dreams

    • @NeutralNinetails
      @NeutralNinetails 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      At least he got a shoutout

    • @alexbulgarelli4181
      @alexbulgarelli4181 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      first thing I thought too. he puts in hella work on this topic

  • @ElFreakinCid
    @ElFreakinCid 4 ปีที่แล้ว +114

    The Ditto evolution is what happens when Ditto snorts the Metal Powder.

    • @ganjafi59
      @ganjafi59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Early Melmetal

    • @plant_
      @plant_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Meltan

  • @milliondollarmistake
    @milliondollarmistake 4 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    So many of those Gen 2 Pokemon look great. That Pinsir evolution, the Meowth pre evolution (not that it needed one), that anchor shark, that voodoo doll, that electric tiger, etc. So many good designs that will probably never make it to the mainline games.

    • @Axultair
      @Axultair 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Gamefreak should make those Pokemon real

    • @ribbodile6225
      @ribbodile6225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      Not giving Meowth's line Konya broke the Tom and Jerry esque relationship the species has with Pikachu

  • @ArvexYT
    @ArvexYT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    What Game Freak could have done is bring back some of those alternate designs as regional/alternate forms in later games. Imagine a Psychic/Dark Girafarig variant with the fully mirrored body or a Shellder/Cloyster line that looks more like Slowbro/Slowking's shell since, canonically, it's a Shellder that merged with it.

    • @AutumnsDusk
      @AutumnsDusk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      At least as a regional variant!

  • @pangolothian
    @pangolothian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +78

    Gyaoon reminds me of Rhydon. It's funny that you mention its name being based on the screech of Godzilla, because the sound the legendary birds make in the earlier games was "Gyaoo!"

    • @sap6231
      @sap6231 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Tyranitar IS literally Godzilla
      Hydriegon IS literally Ghidorah and Volcarona IS literally Mothra

    • @pangolothian
      @pangolothian 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@sap6231 lol ARE they now

    • @ae_sko88
      @ae_sko88 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I almost thought it was a hybrid of Rhydon and Nidoking

    • @bewearstar9462
      @bewearstar9462 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Duradon is mecha godzilla

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@ae_sko88 Yeah, I think Gyaoon was simply an incomplete design idea. It probably got reworked into Rhydon. In Gen 1 each Pokemon has an index number in the game data that has no relation to their Pokedex number. Some people have speculated that this is in part due to the order in which they were programmed into the game. Rhydon's game index number is 001. Which would seemingly make it the first one ever....
      pausing at 2:25: these designs are much like what was later used for Ledian and Politoed(including the crown!).

  • @DonajaMarjun
    @DonajaMarjun 4 ปีที่แล้ว +228

    Using old concept art as new Pokemon might be a great Official or Fan Game.

    • @AutumnsDusk
      @AutumnsDusk 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nintendo would cease and desist a fan made game with this stuff immediately, if it was too obvious. I think you could probably get away with making something new with inspiration, but unfortunately Nintendo is VERY strict about their stuff being used. :(

    • @aniahliepard
      @aniahliepard 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@AutumnsDusk Ironic too considering they're all about game preservation or whatever

    • @OtakuUnderground92
      @OtakuUnderground92 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Didn’t TemTem devs do this?

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      A lot of them DID get reused in some form later. And many were just different sprites for a pokemon that did get made. But... there are a few exceptions.
      Ditto's weak stats are the only reason it's a joke pokemon. The evo getting better stats would be a great improvement.
      An alternate evolution to Weepingbell would have been cool

  • @frankvalenzoola3105
    @frankvalenzoola3105 4 ปีที่แล้ว +191

    "Hammerhead shark with a harpoon like nose", you mean like the Goblin shark? A weird shark found off the coast of Japan?

    • @Mngalahad
      @Mngalahad 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      "we found a white shark with a fleshy plank at the top of its nose, perpendicular to his face". also a hammerhead shark.

    • @PeterGriffin11
      @PeterGriffin11 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Boco Corwin We know this is Pokémon.

    • @TigirlakaLaserwolf6
      @TigirlakaLaserwolf6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Idk if you've ever seen a goblin shark, but they don't have a head shape like that. Their ampullae of Lorenzi are in the little saw thing, as opposed to a hammerhead, which have the distinctive head shape that serves a similar function.

    • @sap6231
      @sap6231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I know about sharks the Goblin has a snout or "plank" which is straight, Hammerheads have a "plank" where its eyes are at each side, which gives it 360 degree vision, and it allows it to eat stingrays with no problem

  • @r.j.etrogames
    @r.j.etrogames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +248

    If he says "bet-tuh" one more time...

    • @LeanneMustafa
      @LeanneMustafa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

      Could be worse. He could've been saying "bee-ta".

    • @LiamRproductions
      @LiamRproductions 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Who cares

    • @r.j.etrogames
      @r.j.etrogames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@LiamRproductions It's not a big deal or anything, just a little jarring. I've never heard it pronounced like that. Nothing against the guy.

    • @Brindlebrother
      @Brindlebrother 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      Yeah, he betuh not!

    • @NeverSaySandwich1
      @NeverSaySandwich1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Yeah what a dope, like those people who say "marry-o"

  • @jcace13
    @jcace13 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I still wish Girafarig kept it's original design with the second head.

    • @russellbrown6888
      @russellbrown6888 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Definitely more fitting than just getting a mini-Chain Chomp on its tail. They should revisit that design, maybe as an evolution for Girafarig.

  • @Madblaster6
    @Madblaster6 4 ปีที่แล้ว +124

    7:18 A Paras that's not dead or dying!

    • @SchmergDergen
      @SchmergDergen 4 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      It looks like it’s inhabiting the mushroom which is great foreshadowing for what the mushroom ends up doing to its later evolution.

    • @abarette_
      @abarette_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I love the design for Para because it goes:
      Para > the insect is dominant
      Paras > the insect and the mushroom are equal
      Parasect > the mushrooms are dominant
      then it repeats

  • @PonziGamingStudios
    @PonziGamingStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +120

    "Dive into the unknown"
    *Shows the Pokemon Unown*
    Me: *slightly dies inside but gives respect*

  • @stolasthegreatprince4166
    @stolasthegreatprince4166 4 ปีที่แล้ว +89

    I remember when the Gold beta was leaked. I couldn't believe that it was real. It's amazing to think that we live on an era where it was possible. I liked the darker tone that was in the beta, with those weapon Pokemon, the zombie panda, the real Girafarig and etc. It seems the story was going to be a little darker too, with that Hiroshima-like city.
    With these leaks and the Starcraft Ghost leak from last year, it's been a wild ride.

    • @OfficialSnyd
      @OfficialSnyd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gen 1 was darker than the rest of the gens. It wasn't necessarily marketed as a kid's game initially, it's why gen 1 has a different "feel" than the rest. Hell even in the japanese version of the games the old man in Viridian City is passed out drunk. Nothing to do with coffee.

    • @leebattersby1573
      @leebattersby1573 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah and a hiker in the first cave mentions being high on magic mushrooms from Gen 1 haha

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      even the stuf fin Gen 2 that did get kept was kinda O-o' Cinnabar being mostly destroyed by a Volcano?

  • @Saiyanryu
    @Saiyanryu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    8:42 Johto's legendaries were almost DeviantArt fursonas.

    • @molotera8789
      @molotera8789 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Did you mean sparkledogs

  • @Axultair
    @Axultair 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    I'm still kinda pissed that Gamefreak changed Girafarig's desing. The beta looks so cool and scary at the same time.

    • @HistoryandReviews
      @HistoryandReviews 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      smwdkc 8594 youre asking that shit about a POKEMON GAME!? How do gears come alive!? How do metal pokemon SHIT

    • @chich-ai
      @chich-ai 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @SGMD 8889 In the pokemon world we have so much nonsensical 'mons that Beta Girafarig would'nt be anything special

    • @marhawkman303
      @marhawkman303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Also they could make the shiny form simply face the other direction. :p

  • @aris0up
    @aris0up 4 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    kotora and raitora not making it in breaks my heart. 💔
    i get with raikou already in, two electric tigers in the same gen wouldn’t make sense, but. look at them round happy bois. they spark joy. literally. they make me smile :)
    ikari is so awesome too. i like it better than what i guess is it’s in game realization, sharpedo. i love that it’s tied to an anchor, it makes it’s short body design more unique than just... having nothing more to it. wolfman’s line is awesome as well. and rinrin and kyonpan’s too... dammit gen 2 had some great scrapped designs i’m mad

  • @GoodlyPenguin
    @GoodlyPenguin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Soooo many gaming journalists don't even credit Dr. Lava. Good on DYKG for bringing his name and channel to the public eye even more 👍

    • @MemoryCardShow
      @MemoryCardShow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      We love both of these sites, and we wanted to make sure they got the recognition they deserve!

  • @zach123101
    @zach123101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    7:22 There he is, my little man

  • @doofs
    @doofs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    dude, my brain absolutely just exploded from hearing the Kangaskhan/Marowak theory was basically confirmed!!
    Damn,, i remember hearing the theory when i was just 7 browsing the internet, seeing it basically confirmed as an adult is FREAKY, but like legendary closure.

  • @BingBangPoe
    @BingBangPoe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    8:44 this early version of the three Legendary Dogs looks like something straight from NeoPets. Quite disturbing.

  • @parkersandahl3949
    @parkersandahl3949 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love most of the baby evolutions they’re adorable and I wish they had put them in the series

  • @EvilApple567
    @EvilApple567 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    So baby Doduo had 3 heads, evolved into having 2 heads, and evolved yet again to having 3 heads. Sure, why not.

  • @adamrhodes9533
    @adamrhodes9533 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Huh. Gyaoon not only is similar to Rhydon's cry whenever it's in text, but it's also the sprite used for the Gym Statues and Pokemon of Rhydon's design in the old games.

  • @NinAmuro57
    @NinAmuro57 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It looks like Poliwrath's older version was the inspiration for Politoed, as it appears to be wearing a crown.

  • @NuckChorris12345
    @NuckChorris12345 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    7:20 Growlithes pre evolution looks like such a good boi!

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's a puppy-puppy~

  • @Teebs1996
    @Teebs1996 4 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is the highest quality DYKG video in a very, very long time. PushDustin is probably the one person I respect the most that has ever been on the show. Fantastic stuff.

  • @kolebaby12
    @kolebaby12 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Every time i remember the sick as hell design of the baby version of tangela and then remember it was cut i simply start wailing and howling

  • @brysonkonoto6012
    @brysonkonoto6012 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This has gotta be one of my favourite videos made by you guys. Please make more beta and cut versions of games from other games as this shows how it formed Pokemon

  • @RedAugust08
    @RedAugust08 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Those original drafts of the legendary dogs look like they all want to go play with big brother Edward.

    • @fpberserk4690
      @fpberserk4690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Graigoree Jones Too soon.

  • @MemoryCardShow
    @MemoryCardShow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    We had a blast working on this episode. Ben and I hope you check out our podcast for more gaming goodness!

  • @Raccoonuman
    @Raccoonuman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wow, you guys released this on Helix Day! The famed anniversary of the day that Twitch beat Pokemon Red. Fitting that one of the groups responsible for unearthing the lost pokemon would be named after the great fossil as well.

  • @ricardomaximilliouscolombo3729
    @ricardomaximilliouscolombo3729 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    9:17 “That’s Bang Bang!” :D

  • @OtakuUnitedStudio
    @OtakuUnitedStudio 4 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    "Barunda"
    "Barun da"
    Literally, "It's a balloon."
    Also, thank you for showing that early Igglybuff! Now I know I actually saw that before, and it wasn't just a fever dream.

    • @sap6231
      @sap6231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Drifloon:im about to end this mans whole career

  • @polymorphicblacksteve5038
    @polymorphicblacksteve5038 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    5:32 Oh my god the cubone kangaskhan theories were right

  • @antoniomata4809
    @antoniomata4809 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    10:13 I want that Pokemon now it looks so cool

    • @jamescookiii225
      @jamescookiii225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed! And we need more ice pokemon

    • @thesquishedelf1301
      @thesquishedelf1301 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Looks like a Digimon

    • @PhoenixSplash
      @PhoenixSplash 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They probably removed it Because it looks like it's wearing another dead Pokemon.

    • @jamescookiii225
      @jamescookiii225 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Phoenix Splash TV that’s what makes it cool

  • @mattbabineau197
    @mattbabineau197 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    9:43 wow, that last evolution just looks like Huntail. It's neat to see an early version of a design they'd later revisit.

  • @Tombola1993
    @Tombola1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +61

    Personally, I’d love to see a kitten Pre-evolution of Meowth. Plus Scyther and Pinsir are in desperate need of a pre-evolution, like a larva with pincers and claws.

    • @misterzygarde6431
      @misterzygarde6431 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Personally I think Persian should get a huge Base Stat increase, maybe to a BST of 490.

    • @Tombola1993
      @Tombola1993 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Adofo Yeah. Even Pokémon like Druddigin, Drampa and Duralodon look way too developed when they hatch.

    • @sap6231
      @sap6231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah and they need to give Pinsir the fighting type for pete sake, IT CAN LEARN FIGHTING MOVES DAMMIT

  • @MasterArchfiend
    @MasterArchfiend 4 ปีที่แล้ว +79

    "Seal Dinosaur"
    ........you mean Plesiosaurs? Because that would have been awesome.

    • @N8-PT
      @N8-PT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      *Lapras

    • @ZombieBarioth
      @ZombieBarioth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Looks more like Serendipity to me. Plesiosaurs aren't dinosaurs by the way, they're reptiles. The seal starter is more dragon-like if anything.

    • @MasterArchfiend
      @MasterArchfiend 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ZombieBarioth I know they're not dinosaurs, but a let's face it; that's what pops in your head if someone says "It looked like a Seal Dinosaur".
      Considering fossils are responsible for the whole Dragon myth, yeah. They do resemble dragons.

    • @MasterArchfiend
      @MasterArchfiend 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@N8-PT Is based on the Loch Ness monster which is commonly described to resemble a plesiosaur. I wouldn't be surprised if it's Ice-typing is a reference to how cold the waters of the loch can be.
      Besides, the ocean is diverse enough for more.

    • @sap6231
      @sap6231 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      EXTREMELY awesome

  • @doktorscam5000
    @doktorscam5000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Some of those unused pokemon got reworked into new mons for later gens. Ikari and Grotesu more than likely got reworked into Sharpedo and Huntail. Manbou looks like it got reworked into Lanturn within the same generation. The voodoo doll also got reworked and eventually turned into Banette (Banettes pokedex entry says it's an abandoned doll). Rinrin and Berunrun had some of their elements go into the Glameow line and Purloin lines. Even those electric tigers probably turned into the Shinx evo line

  • @blekiscooler
    @blekiscooler 4 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    Yo! You guys mentioned the Doctor! Dr Lava makes some good stuff

    • @MemoryCardShow
      @MemoryCardShow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ِAgreed! We had him on our podcast and it inspired this episode 😃

  • @someonesomewhere9321
    @someonesomewhere9321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Why is Revolver Remoraid not a thing in the final game?!

    • @dynamon911nz
      @dynamon911nz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Because would cause much controversy design over remoraid.

    • @nicodalusong149
      @nicodalusong149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Because guns and children don't mix ratings-wise.

    • @collaterale1
      @collaterale1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicodalusong149 Especially the Columbine Shooting at the time.

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because you can't have WeApOnS. Hence why some episodes were completely cut. When they could have just been edited like they did for YGO? Can't have been THAT difficult.

  • @WilfredCthulu
    @WilfredCthulu 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    I wish Pangshi were canon.

    • @Cradily8000
      @Cradily8000 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I see you comment from many different vids

  • @Operation_FUBAR
    @Operation_FUBAR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    That beta version of Girafarig looks so badass. I wish that was the design they went with.

    • @pgj1997
      @pgj1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you read call it "badass" if it doesn't even have an ass?

  • @somacruz7759
    @somacruz7759 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    They could reuse so many of these in future generations.

    • @Matanumi
      @Matanumi 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      And they look so much better then the Mons today

    • @somacruz7759
      @somacruz7759 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Matanumi xD

    • @nicodalusong149
      @nicodalusong149 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      They have, just a small portion though. Still waiting on a few of these.

  • @NekoNick2770
    @NekoNick2770 4 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Not gonna lie I want to see most of these beta designs become real pokemon

  • @Mr.Smiley_J
    @Mr.Smiley_J 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    5:18 OMFG give us back that baby Meowth! It's sooo cute!

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I want that baby sunfish~

  • @FlowUrbanFlow
    @FlowUrbanFlow 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    "A Pokemon based on Slowking's shell crown"
    We just ignoring Slowbro?

  • @HMZeroTwo
    @HMZeroTwo 4 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    I already saw most of these via Dr. Lava's Twitter, and I still can't believe we've been robbed of these designs-

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I wish this video showed the scrapped Gen 4 designs, because I can't find them anywhere.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@constantconstant8943 The problem is, I found out about it when the website was already down. Not even TCRF has them!

    • @DJIVision
      @DJIVision 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YujiUedaFan If you DM me on Twitter I'll send you a download link for the Gen 4 beta sprites.

    • @Lilliathi
      @Lilliathi 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@YujiUedaFan
      The gender ones? Those are everywhere on the net. If you mean actual scrapped Pokemon, there weren't any leaked. If you saw some, they were fake.

    • @YujiUedaFan
      @YujiUedaFan 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Lilliathi I can't find all of them though, just someone's favourite list. Plus TCRF should have scrapped designs, they normally do.

  • @king_big_pp
    @king_big_pp 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Man, you can really see the changes in design philosophy from old gen Pokemon ideas and the modern ones.
    Love them or hate them, you can't deny that the newer pokemon have a very different artistic style compared to the franchise roots.

  • @ajfrommillay1508
    @ajfrommillay1508 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    8:45 I'll get in your ball when you fix this DAMN DOOR!

  • @TKnHappyNess
    @TKnHappyNess 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Cubone/Kangaskhan theory does somewhat make sense. Gen 7 during SOS Battles, a Kangaskhan can appear when Cubone calls for help

  • @apollorock3r244
    @apollorock3r244 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    02:08 That’s Balloon Kirby in Kirby Canvas Curse. XD

  • @mattwo7
    @mattwo7 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    8:25 WTF were they on when they made this one?

  • @NatsumenoKage
    @NatsumenoKage 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The second stage grass starter from Gen 2 makes me think that there had to be a different starter before Chikorita. Like it was the first starter to get the redesign like the others did later. It looks more like a proto Flabébé then any evolution of Chikorita.

  • @Jetanium
    @Jetanium 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I swear this video has been recommended to me for 4 months straight now.

  • @pejnismiggle
    @pejnismiggle 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    "Betta Pokemon and Betta Sprites"

    • @RobotronSage
      @RobotronSage 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      ''Baytah''
      Yeah that's not any better now is it

    • @Roadent1241
      @Roadent1241 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@RobotronSage I say it that way, probably because I've been learning Japanese (who hasn't?) over the years so I'm used to e's being ay-like.
      But just because it's one of the 3 pronunciations doesn't mean it's wrong?

  • @gimme4641
    @gimme4641 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    8:57 that's Meganium, not Bayleef.

    • @Kristoby
      @Kristoby 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Just came to check if anyone else caught this!

  • @aufowithwificoverage3328
    @aufowithwificoverage3328 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    OK WHY DIDNT THEY EVER RELEASED THEM!
    THEY LOOK SO ADORABLEEEEEE

  • @_Teej_264
    @_Teej_264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Next DLC should be "Isle of the lost" and feature all the scrapped mons and some of the beta forms of existing mons as variants

  • @reritheguy6756
    @reritheguy6756 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Why would they cut all these Pokémon when they literally made a ring of keys into a Pokémon?

    • @carboy101
      @carboy101 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You saw that one of them was just a balloon, right?

    • @kingcaesar3693
      @kingcaesar3693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, but that fire bear, Raichu evolution, and goblin shark were great designs. A lot of these were actually. They scrapped animal like designs and never used these at some point, but keys, a ice cream cone, and a literal trash bag made it. I find it even odder these were tossed during gen 1-2, but Pokemon like Voltorb made it.

    • @TokuNorth
      @TokuNorth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Oh will you piss off with the god damn "key pokemon" argument
      Gen 1 had eggs, a rat, a bird, another bird, another rat, a rock with arms, a fucking pokeball with eyes etc etc
      Gen 1 had lazy as fuck designs so fuck off you fucking genwunner!

    • @user-xs4hn5bf2x
      @user-xs4hn5bf2x 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TokuNorth Klefki was made in gen 6 so how tf are you saying that they are genwunners?

    • @TokuNorth
      @TokuNorth 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@user-xs4hn5bf2x Omg you dense idiot...genwunners love to shit on everything beyond gen 1.

  • @Dubiousthinking
    @Dubiousthinking 4 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    I never call the Legendary Johto Trio, dogs. I always refer to them as Beasts.

  • @WatchVidsMakeLists
    @WatchVidsMakeLists 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    It is a CRIME that we never got Octillery's beta design
    I mean, the name doesn't even make sense in it's current form

    • @fpberserk4690
      @fpberserk4690 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Marcus Katich They are still based on weapons,the final designs just aren’t meant to look like weapons like the beta ones.

    • @WatchVidsMakeLists
      @WatchVidsMakeLists 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fpberserk4690 i want my tank octopus right now dammit. No excuses from sugimori

    • @nicodalusong149
      @nicodalusong149 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@WatchVidsMakeLists well you won't have any luck anymore. Tank Octopus would have been more acceptable back in the 90s but now there are too many people with 'delicate sensitivities' to deal with.

    • @WatchVidsMakeLists
      @WatchVidsMakeLists 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nicodalusong149 Nah, I think it's cartoony and squishy enough that it would get away with it. It's basically just an armored Octopus, it doesn't actually go around firing shells at innocents

    • @nicodalusong149
      @nicodalusong149 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@WatchVidsMakeLists You could give it a helmet to live in instead of a pot I suppose. It just wears its house.

  • @mellowyello1478
    @mellowyello1478 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love that the Cubone/Kanghaskhan people were unofficially validated. Can you imagine that for decades you have a fan theory that everyone calls you crazy for, just for it to be proven true somewhat?

  • @ChristopherMoom
    @ChristopherMoom 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    3:18 It says "Missingno" at the top, Missingno confirmed to be the best lost Pokemon

  • @ImDemonAlchemist
    @ImDemonAlchemist 4 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    "There's a lot that can be learned from their back sprites" And then you show almost exclusively fanart, instead of those back sprites.

  • @darkfent
    @darkfent 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    A voodoo doll evolve into a chinese vampire...we need more ghost types

  • @Manawolfman
    @Manawolfman 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I noticed a lot of scrapped evolutions look incredibly similar to the previous form. Pokemon usually has gone with much more drastic changes between evolutions to help them stand out.

  • @NephiLoWaterGodXVII
    @NephiLoWaterGodXVII 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Dr Lava is one of my favorites on the topic of cut and rare pokemon content

  • @GamingWithPie1
    @GamingWithPie1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    7:16 "other abandoned babies include.."

  • @laslosermcuseless1574
    @laslosermcuseless1574 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wartortle is the only part of the squirtle line I like and I loathe sturfetche'ds' design but Madame's one of my favourites.
    Just looking at these old designs gets me all riled up over what could of been.

  • @joyconboyz1409
    @joyconboyz1409 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It’s crazy that even some info in this video is now outdated due to new leaks that continue to be released. Will always be extremely interesting!

  • @kailiahseekings
    @kailiahseekings 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A baby Pichu would make a new edition to the Pokemon franchise as a rounder version of Pichu

  • @foxowl374
    @foxowl374 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They've never given me a name. I've been around since Gen I and I still don't have a name.

  • @Rioluman10
    @Rioluman10 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I don't know about the assessment on Gyaoon. I think it probably split into the Nidos and Rhydon. If I remember correctly, there's an NPC Rhydon you can speak to that has Gyaoo as a cry.

  • @eduardotorres6108
    @eduardotorres6108 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I already knew 70% of them, at least I learn something new

  • @rmdcade1717
    @rmdcade1717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    When I heard Raikou pronounced correctly, I nearly burst into tears of gratitude.

  • @RazorBladezX
    @RazorBladezX 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    It's like they wanted to cut out all of the good stuff. WTF

  • @cluelesskhajiit
    @cluelesskhajiit 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    They aren't dogs, they are cats. Entei the lion, Raikou the sabertooth, and Suicune the leopard.

  • @OSIRIZ91
    @OSIRIZ91 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The baby forms would’ve been pretty cool, but also awesome watching these videos and seeing how a lot of these designs helped others down the road!

  • @yungpeachs
    @yungpeachs 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I hope that at least one person at Pokémon sees how much fans still love these designs and hopefully will one day implement all of these, they were so good.

  • @victikirby15
    @victikirby15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    Why would they jail a guy for leaking Pokémon content?
    Article:”...leaking personal info from several million accounts”
    Ooooooh

    • @mattwolf7698
      @mattwolf7698 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Developers and reviewers have gotten in trouble for leaking content from the newer games before they were even released. Arresting them makes total sense.
      As for stuff that's 20 years old, yeah, that would be weird. Him hacking the accounts anwsers the questions though.

    • @lostpockets2227
      @lostpockets2227 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bethesda leaked personal info from thousands of people they should be going to jail also....

  • @SirSaintRipper
    @SirSaintRipper 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "Newer Pokemon are trash"
    *a scrapped pokemon was a literal balloon*

    • @N8-PT
      @N8-PT 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It’s almost like it was removed for a reason.

  • @bnguyen2424
    @bnguyen2424 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Who ever was persistent enough to include raitora and kotora in the gen 1 and space world demo....we are going to need you back in the pokemon team and to keep pushing this idea! We need them in the game!!!! (Also if you wanna push warwolf and wolfman that would he amazing too, they're my favs)

  • @spartandumpster1158
    @spartandumpster1158 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It hasn't occurred to me until now, but those Pokemon songs just fill me with pure joy.

  • @UliZombie04
    @UliZombie04 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    10:13
    These lil guys remind me of Sasquatch from Darkstalkers, who's also my favorite fighter from that game, i would 100% have them in my team

  • @ZambatoMaster2o
    @ZambatoMaster2o 4 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wasn't part 3 of the unreleased N64 games supposed to be this week?

  • @rho-starmkl4483
    @rho-starmkl4483 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Porygon 2’s beta design was just a placeholder image based off of some Japanese donut shop mascot.

    • @fpberserk4690
      @fpberserk4690 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Rho-star MKL You mean Mister Donut’s Pon de Lion?
      It seems that way but I believe he was created in the early 2000’s while beta Porygon 2 was created in the 90’s.

  • @MyNameIsntRyan
    @MyNameIsntRyan 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic video on the topic. Thank you so much!

  • @TheBizFerd
    @TheBizFerd 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    8:58 An image of Meganium is shown on screen instead of Bayleef who is mentioned by name

  • @FordFourD-aka-Ford4D
    @FordFourD-aka-Ford4D 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    It’s crazy no one in the comments is talking about how somebody literally faced jailtime to make this info public…

    • @ZombieBarioth
      @ZombieBarioth 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      No, they faced jail time because they straight up hacked their network to get it. If it was just a leak Nintendo would have simply issued a C&D takedown like they have in the past.

    • @ItsNep
      @ItsNep 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      It's happened a good number of times. Like back in the 90s, someone leaked a fuckton of n64 files and stuff. dude allegedly got taken to court over it and because of that people panicked and deleted stuff. like half of the archive is left and it's highly illegal to own, and very difficult to obtain. This leak actually helped with n64 emulators, however because of that most of them are actually illegal because they use stolen code and the like.

  • @hecatialapislazulli5426
    @hecatialapislazulli5426 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    God Bless Helix Chamber and Dr Lava

  • @Z3Ghost
    @Z3Ghost 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Voodoo doll and Werewolf Pokemon lines look really cool I wish they would've made the cut.