Thank you for explaining what I need to do to my Ford diesel tractor. Replacement lighting is several hundred dollars (US) but I was able to do the job for $5.00 dollars to get my old tractor to flash again. Many thanks from NW Connecticut USA
Top man. Top video. 5*****s from me. No background banging music. No fast talking or foreign accent. Just plain English explained thoroughly. Well he is English. Well done Andy.
I personally did not dislike it. However, i don't like how he did not wire in a switch. The way he did it here a flasher will work 100% of the time. Constant power, no ground to switch to be able to control it, turn it on/off
VERY GOOD Explanation and Demonstration, I Thank You as I was having trouble with a universal new turn signal switch on my Club Car DS. I will go ATTACK that little problem with much better approach!! Thanks Again! John S.
Thank you so much for the video. I've now got a game plan to make my own turn signal lighting harness for my John Deere Gator RSX860M. That was going to cost me $750 to have the factory harness and lights installed at my dealer. The low cost option was to buy a $420 factory wiring harness and switch, purchase my own lights and install myself. I bet I can buy all the parts and make my own for under $100! Great and inspiring tutorial.
Great video that answered some of my questions especially about the load and speed of the flash. I'm looking for a way to make a 12 volt LED strip flash using this same idea however not on a vehicle.
thank you so much!! i have been looking for a video like this and you explained it so nicely. also,i have never seen anyone make nines the way you do,most people make the circle part of the nine first..... thanks again,great video.
Hi Andy I've installed LED to my 2007 Vulcan and the rear is all good with 2 wire setup but the front which are 3wire stay on but indicate when you activate switch so you have both lights on with one blinking. I also installed aftermarket relay for LED lights which is a 2pin same as the original.
Newer vehicles don't have a replaceable flasher relay (like my 2014 Xterra). So your only other options are loading resistors or get CANBUS rated LEDs for your car/SUV/truck. The CANBUS LEDs have circuitry that pulls normal halogen/incandescent current which fools the cars electronics into thinking you are using halogen/incandescent bulbs. Not all vehicles will work properly with the CANBUS rated LEDs so you may have to go with loading resistors. The downsides to the loading resistors is heat dissipation and if the LED goes bad the car's electronics will think the LED is still good because the loading resistors are still pulling the same amount of current. That's why you should check your lighting on a regular basis - but it's obvious that a lot of people won't do that.
@@AndyMechanic I just got a pair of CANBUS LEDs (CK socket type) for my front turn signal lights on my 2014 Xterra and they work great. No hyperflash when you install the CANBUS LEDs in both the front and rear. CANBUS LEDs make for a cleaner install (compared to resistor kits) but they don't fix hyperflash on all vehicles (according to my research).
Very well done explanation! I have watched several videos on relays and never understood it until now! Thanks Andy once again for spreading valuable knowledge;)
thanks a lot Andy,really helped me out ,on my '72 landrover,well explained in layman terms,just subscribed looking forward to your other stuff.Mark READING BERKSHIRE UK .
Thanks Mark, it's great to get feedback & know I'm been helpful with these videos. Hope the old Landy is in good shape, awesome vehicles :-) Cheers Andy
Like the basics, good refresher, but you probably might add running lights like ones found on my old 1983 kawasaki 750 ltd. The reason I feel it would be beneficial is the front and rear running lights the turn signals share the same single filament bulb and a 2 conductor flaher. This would help those whom don't understand how that one filament can flash when the lights are on, trouble shoot more effectively. So it is my opinion. If you would include the ignition switch and turn signal switch and maybe the separate two conductor hazard flasher could be even more beneficial for understanding what real world scenarios, such as chasing a bad wire/connector or multifunctional switch like in my 04 Ford f350 can greatly complicate simple circuits such as a flasher
Thank you, as a fellow educator I must say you do great work please keep it up ! I'm sure I'll be refering to you again ;) cheers from Victoria BC Canada
Hi Andy, Today I picked up four much brighter Navra LED amber blinker lights and my new CF14JL-02 three pin electronic relay. Sadly I can't make the system blink yet. Changing this relay back to the old non electronic 3 pin relay made all the lights work on Hazard but they still don't blink. Same happens when either left or right indicator is selected and just that side comes on and doesn't blink. Question, Are there different ratings in electronic relays? Should I have used a two pin instead? Many thanks for your help. David.
Hi David, a true electronic type relay shouldn't be dependent on load to trigger flashing unlike the old bimetalic mechanical type. However, given the relay works correctly when actuating all the indicator lamps (hazard mode) then I would suggest maybe swapping the relay for a lower wattage one - the pin layout must be correct as the relay works when under a higher load. Hope this is of help Andy
so i plugged in everything on an older toyota, 81 to be exact and it does not flash my hazards or turn signals....do i have to do some extra wiring for ground? i know my fuses are good and everything else because it still works on the old relay but not the electronic relay @@AndyMechanic
Great video! I noticed that the light bulb's connection to the LED relay was accidentally connected at the 39, not the 39a (around time 9:30 in the video). That might be why the LED one didn't work
Thanks for the lessons. Im wiring a motorcycle from complete tear down. What part of the circuit is the switch usual wired? I can wire it a couple of ways to make it work, but I'm sure there's a way it's traditionally wired. I'm an electrician with limited automotive wiring experience. Thanks again for your knowledge and sharing your time!
working on a project vehicle without any signals (yet) Do you have a vid on how to wire in a complete system (using a three prong electronic flasher) or other. This vid showed how to get a flash, but not how to get it to flash left or right through a three position switch ie: on - off - on (like on a cycle)
Hi, ah, that's easy. The output from the relay that you have going to the bulb. That's the feed to the left/right switch. Then from the switch just run the power feed, in parallel, to each of your indicator bulbs. The other wire from each bulb goes to ground. Hope this helps Cheers Andy
I changed to LED taillights on my campervan and have hyperflashing. I tried fixing it with the resistors but it made the LED lights very dim. Ive ordered an LED flasher relay instead but its 5 pins and my other 5 pins are in different locations. Wondering how to wire it up? My old relay (25230C9961) is numbered 1,2,3,4,5 and my new relay EP27 is labelled as + - I L & L1 Thanks
@@AndyMechanic [edit] Oh wait I get it now! The left/off/right switch comes AFTER the relay and determines where the power coming from the relay is going to. [/edit] Thanks for the reply but I still don't get it. I mean, there's only 1 wire for output... So what actually hapens when you switch left to right?
Why is my LF1-S-PIN (2 wire) relay blinking normally only with engine OFF on a 2000 Yamaha TDM ? As soon as I turn engine on relay starts blinking faster.
Hmmm....check your charging rate. It may be a fault with the reg/rectifier. Also get your battery checked and check for volt drop between the terminals of tge battery and the wires coming off. Hope this helps Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic ummm maybe im a bit confused...if my bike already has a relay can i put in 2 flashing relays, 1 for each side, and use the positive from the existing wiring into the new relay and then run new wiring to each side of the bike. At the moment my new scrolling indicators dont even flash
I'm just wondering if this is possible,the indicators don't work on the right hand side of the fiat doblo i just bought.I have diagnosed it to a faulty indicator relay on the bcm circuit board. It operated the left indicators ok but wires for right indicators are dead at the bcm output. Would it be possible to wire in a conventional relay just to operate right side indicators from my indicator stalk??Thanks.
Hi Andy. I have a question, is it posible to wire LED flashing lights without a switch and have them come on everytime the brakes are applied on a Harley Davidson? Thank you in advance for your response.
Hi Danny, yes, should be easy enough. Though the circuitry to make the LED lights flash would ideally need to be integral to the LED lights so a bit of research needed. However, have you considered the legality of such additional lights? A brake light both in the UK & here in NZ must illuminate when a brake is applied (motorcycle front or rear) & must maintain a steady output whilst the brake is applied. In the US they often use the same light to indicate that the vehicle is turning - by flashing the brake light. What you propose may well cause confusion to those driving vehicles behind you, implying that you intend to turn. Hope this is of help. Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic thank you Andy. I meant strobe lights, or warning lights. Here in America, some motorcycles use strobe warning lights for safety when breaking. But I don’t want to have a switch for it. There are modules I could buy, but they are not strong enough for me. Thank you sir.
@@AndyMechanic thank you Andy. I meant strobe lights, or warning lights. Here in America, some motorcycles use strobe warning lights for safety when breaking. But I don’t want to have a switch for it. There are modules I could buy, but they are not strong enough for me. Thank you sir.
Andy, 1991 Honda Africa Twin. Stock turn signals. I notice in cold weather when I activate the turn signal there is a significant delay before the signal starts flashing. Works normal in warm weather with instant flashing. Would you say bad relay?
Hi Mike, Yes, I'd start there. They use a bi-metalic strip type relays which will take longer to warm up in cold weather - beat option is to swap it for an electronic one - they just plug straight in. Take your oodles relay with you so they match up the correct one & make a note of the wattage of each flasher bulb - will be in your service manual under electrical specifications Cheers Andy
@AndyMechanic hi Andy I have a uforce atv I have put aftermarket lights in it, I have hooked up turn signals to a 3 pin flasher relay. I now want to add in my Hazzard lights. I have purchased a 5pin rocker switch but I can not for the life of me figure out how to get hazards to flash!! I have hooked wires on rocker I think every way possible. I can hook up wires and the turn signals work but you turn rocker on and I get nothing. Any help or suggestions would be great ty.
Hi, yes, most manufacturers have 2 separate relays, the problem is the load, it's doubled when you turn on the hazards & this then often puts the relay over spec on max current. You may get it to work with one relay if you use an electronic type relay rather than the old school bi-metalic strip type. I remember our old Suzuki jeeps had two relays. Hope that helps? Cheers Andy
The relay needs to be upstream of the switchgear, that way you can activate just one side or both sides. If I was doing the job I'd definitely just use 2 relays, one for the indicator circuit & one for the Hazzard circuit. Easier to diagnose faults further down the line too. Sorry, got to go, have to get on a plane. Cheers Andy
So I'm a little confused, now the relay basically intermittently interrupts the circuit to cause the bulbs to flash if It stays solid is it because there is too much wattage going into the bulbs or not enough ?
@@AndyMechanic thank you for the reply it definitely helps , I think the bulbs I have are too low a wattage, is there a flasher relay that would work for lower wattage? I have a 1983 Suzuki GS750T
Question, I have a 03 buick regal. The car will not start if the turn signal switch is activated, or I can say if I'm driving the car and I turn my signals on the car turns off,, any idea why?
listen Sir : I have a relay calls Hella : it has 4 pins (31/49/49a/c2) what is the C2 exactly for and how to wire it ? I could wire one or two lamps without using the C2 pin ... but what it is used for ? I will be thankful with your answer
Nice one dude, if ive got a mix of LEDs and normal bulbs, will the electronic relay work with both? I have an issue where the new relay doesnt work and im feeling a bit lost!!!
@@AndyMechanic thanks for your help buddy, i was going out of my mind, turns out i had a faulty relay, helpful seller on ebay "Lightec-uk" very helpful is sending me out another!! I was worried my LEDs didnt draw enough to activate the relay, thanks for your info in the video, very helpful
So an electronic flasher 3 pin will work on front and rear and mirror turn signals ? What about running lights? I have a 2004 EZGO TXT:Marathon golf cart. Any thoughts….Thank You Andy!
hello, I installed a 3 wire hazard switch on my moto but doesnt blink. It wants to blink but it looks like has not to much power to to do this. I use regular lamps, not LED. Any suggestion?
Great video! A '?'.. I need to replace an existing faulty 12v 2 prong relay that's malfunctioning on a 64 vw beetle (no emergency flasher in 64, it's just for turn signals). Was told I should go to the 3 prong (newer type) so the pin 31 can go to a grd so it works properly. Would this be true? Thanks for any feedback!
Hi, I'm wanting to try this but my motorbike has hazard lights too. My bike is a Honda and the original relay (for filament bulbs) has 4 pins. Would my hazard lights still work with a 3 pin universal relay? And I have an led 2 pin relay (adjustable flash speed) would my hazards still work on a 2 pin relay? Thanks for a great video 👍
Hi I have a question I’m a volunteer fire fighter I have red 3/4 led’s (15) and I have them wired into my park light and was wanting to make them flash when I have a fire call. And when not on a call I want them to b (steady on) how can I do this with a flasher. I know I’d have to add a toggle switch.
Hi Mark, will that just be one indicator front & one rear? No side mounted indicators? If so then just one that works with a 20 Watt draw (which is very low). You may be better getting an electronic flasher relay instead due to the low current draw. Hope this helps. Cheers Andy
Ah, okay, if it's flashing too fast than the current draw is too high for the flasher relay you have. You'll either need to get lower wattage bulbs or a higher rated relay or an electronic relay (electronic type relays flash at a set Hz independent of bulb wattage unlike the old bimetal strip type relays.
This is super helpful!!! I've recently installed LED's on all the exterior flasher bulbs on my 86 GMC K1500 they worked good with the bulbs installed for all the rear lights then when I installed the front flasher LED bulbs they all flashed very slow. I'm assuming its either a problem with my relay or the load is somehow being blocked from LEDs between the front or back. I was going to try load resistors to even out the ammount of power going to the LED's. now that I've watched your video I think the flasher relays may be more of the problem though.
You forgot to hook up your ground to the metal mounting bracket on the red colored electronic relay. That is why it did not work. Normally, if the relay was mounted, it would get it's ground through the frame of the vehicle. I sure you just forgot.
hi andy, I fixed separate 2pin flasher relay(similar to the original one) without removing the original flasher relay for hazard signal light configuration for my bike. in addition to the main front and rear signal lights (basically halogen), there are two led handle signal lights. the problem is once I connected front signal lights double signal light didn't work. without front signal lights it is working perfectly. for testing purposes, I fixed two led strips for the front and checked. then hazard signal lights did work. what could be the reason for this
Thank you for explaining what I need to do to my Ford diesel tractor. Replacement lighting is several hundred dollars (US) but I was able to do the job for $5.00 dollars to get my old tractor to flash again. Many thanks from NW Connecticut USA
Top man. Top video. 5*****s from me. No background banging music. No fast talking or foreign accent. Just plain English explained thoroughly. Well he is English. Well done Andy.
Very brief and easy to understand. Great job
Great video thanks. So well explained. Just helped me set up a homemade splashing duck decoy that I couldn't get working.
Who the hell would dislike this video? Amazing explanation!
I personally did not dislike it. However, i don't like how he did not wire in a switch. The way he did it here a flasher will work 100% of the time. Constant power, no ground to switch to be able to control it, turn it on/off
Great video, needed to use a flasher relay for a horn on an alarm system.. This helped a lot, thanks Andy
Thanks Andy for a very quick response. I will go shopping tomorrow and give you feedback after installing the relay..
Excellent! I've never worked with electrics. Now I'm ready to fix DIY indicators on my tricycle! Thank you :D
No problem :-)
Very clear. Should be able to fix my indicators now. Thanks.
That was all what I was looking for today - thx a lot
VERY GOOD Explanation and Demonstration, I Thank You as I was having trouble with a universal new turn signal switch on my Club Car DS. I will go ATTACK that little problem with much better approach!! Thanks Again! John S.
Thank you so much for the video. I've now got a game plan to make my own turn signal lighting harness for my John Deere Gator RSX860M. That was going to cost me $750 to have the factory harness and lights installed at my dealer. The low cost option was to buy a $420 factory wiring harness and switch, purchase my own lights and install myself. I bet I can buy all the parts and make my own for under $100! Great and inspiring tutorial.
Thanks alot! I just got a bike with no electronics and I've always been unsure of how to wire indicators! Thank you!!
How did you make out? Did you use this video to make it work? I’m trying to light up a school bus prop hoping this video is the ticket
Thankyou very informative, and the three pin type is exactly what i have on my VW type 2 camper
thank you so much for help, and you are right "always keep it easy".
Brilliant Thanks Andy you should teach full time
Thanks for the great job very goo simple and easy appreciations from Denmark
Thanks Andy, helped me diagnose a little headache. Good info 👍
Really good simple explanation ,
Geeez, that man BENDS SPACE around himself!!!
Great video that answered some of my questions especially about the load and speed of the flash. I'm looking for a way to make a 12 volt LED strip flash using this same idea however not on a vehicle.
+JD L An electronic flasher relay will do that - it's not load sensitive
thank you so much!! i have been looking for a video like this and you explained it so nicely. also,i have never seen anyone make nines the way you do,most people make the circle part of the nine first..... thanks again,great video.
Super Andy, thanks from the Netherlands!! :-)
Hi Andy I've installed LED to my 2007 Vulcan and the rear is all good with 2 wire setup but the front which are 3wire stay on but indicate when you activate switch so you have both lights on with one blinking. I also installed aftermarket relay for LED lights which is a 2pin same as the original.
Great vid, helped me test some relays
Newer vehicles don't have a replaceable flasher relay (like my 2014 Xterra). So your only other options are loading resistors or get CANBUS rated LEDs for your car/SUV/truck. The CANBUS LEDs have circuitry that pulls normal halogen/incandescent current which fools the cars electronics into thinking you are using halogen/incandescent bulbs. Not all vehicles will work properly with the CANBUS rated LEDs so you may have to go with loading resistors. The downsides to the loading resistors is heat dissipation and if the LED goes bad the car's electronics will think the LED is still good because the loading resistors are still pulling the same amount of current. That's why you should check your lighting on a regular basis - but it's obvious that a lot of people won't do that.
Very useful info, thanks for your post. Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic I just got a pair of CANBUS LEDs (CK socket type) for my front turn signal lights on my 2014 Xterra and they work great. No hyperflash when you install the CANBUS LEDs in both the front and rear. CANBUS LEDs make for a cleaner install (compared to resistor kits) but they don't fix hyperflash on all vehicles (according to my research).
Cool, old school demonstration Thank you! 👍
thanks very much will go and try it because i have a problem with my mazda 626 fs no turning light ,no hazards ,
Thank you! Very handy video!
Great video! Helped me see the error of my ways hooking up my turn signal kit on my rzr.
+Dillon Weppler Awesome :-) really chuffed to know it helped you. Thanks for the feedback.
Merry Christmas. Andy
thank you so much for explaining electrical wizardry so clearly
finaly a tutorial video on a new zealand bassed channell,,, hi there from christchurch
+Abe Coulter Hi Abe, pleased you found the video helpful. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers Andy
Great 👍 DIY video. Thank you for sharing knowledge.
Very well done explanation! I have watched several videos on relays and never understood it until now! Thanks Andy once again for spreading valuable knowledge;)
thanks a lot Andy,really helped me out ,on my '72 landrover,well explained in layman terms,just subscribed looking forward to your other stuff.Mark READING BERKSHIRE UK .
Thanks Mark, it's great to get feedback & know I'm been helpful with these videos. Hope the old Landy is in good shape, awesome vehicles :-)
Cheers Andy
wonderful blinker
True legend. Well deserved like.
Thanks. Top information. From John in the UK.
Thanks John.
thanks for showing basics of relays. I'm seeing a lot of really inexpensive 2 pin relays on the market, with adjustable rate, usually 50 - 200 c/min
great presentation
Taught very well. Thank you.
Like the basics, good refresher, but you probably might add running lights like ones found on my old 1983 kawasaki 750 ltd. The reason I feel it would be beneficial is the front and rear running lights the turn signals share the same single filament bulb and a 2 conductor flaher. This would help those whom don't understand how that one filament can flash when the lights are on, trouble shoot more effectively. So it is my opinion. If you would include the ignition switch and turn signal switch and maybe the separate two conductor hazard flasher could be even more beneficial for understanding what real world scenarios, such as chasing a bad wire/connector or multifunctional switch like in my 04 Ford f350 can greatly complicate simple circuits such as a flasher
exactly what I was looking for thx great vid
Yes, I agree... very informative. Thank you Andy. (new subscriber from Wgtn) :)
Thanks! Helped greatly.
Thank you, as a fellow educator I must say you do great work please keep it up ! I'm sure I'll be refering to you again ;) cheers from Victoria BC Canada
Thanks Jacob. Have a great day. Andy
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Thanks Andy
Can appreciate your channel, wishing you must success. Cheers!
Cheers Pablo :-)
thankyou for this verry imformative video,i love it! from philippines
Great Video, well done and very informative. A tip of the hat to you sir!
Hi Andy, Today I picked up four much brighter Navra LED amber blinker lights and my new CF14JL-02 three pin electronic relay. Sadly I can't make the system blink yet. Changing this relay back to the old non electronic 3 pin relay made all the lights work on Hazard but they still don't blink. Same happens when either left or right indicator is selected and just that side comes on and doesn't blink. Question, Are there different ratings in electronic relays? Should I have used a two pin instead? Many thanks for your help. David.
same thing
Hi David, a true electronic type relay shouldn't be dependent on load to trigger flashing unlike the old bimetalic mechanical type. However, given the relay works correctly when actuating all the indicator lamps (hazard mode) then I would suggest maybe swapping the relay for a lower wattage one - the pin layout must be correct as the relay works when under a higher load.
Hope this is of help
Andy
so i plugged in everything on an older toyota, 81 to be exact and it does not flash my hazards or turn signals....do i have to do some extra wiring for ground? i know my fuses are good and everything else because it still works on the old relay but not the electronic relay
@@AndyMechanic
Great video! So easy to understand.
Great video! I noticed that the light bulb's connection to the LED relay was accidentally connected at the 39, not the 39a (around time 9:30 in the video). That might be why the LED one didn't work
dzięki za pomoc ziomuś/// thx for help buddy
Thanks for the lessons. Im wiring a motorcycle from complete tear down. What part of the circuit is the switch usual wired? I can wire it a couple of ways to make it work, but I'm sure there's a way it's traditionally wired. I'm an electrician with limited automotive wiring experience. Thanks again for your knowledge and sharing your time!
Very good video, clear to the point and easily understandable. Thanks Andy and keep the good work up.
Steave, Ipswich, UK.
Thanks for your helping
working on a project vehicle without any signals (yet) Do you have a vid on how to wire in a complete system (using a three prong electronic flasher) or other. This vid showed how to get a flash, but not how to get it to flash left or right through a three position switch ie: on - off - on (like on a cycle)
Hi, ah, that's easy. The output from the relay that you have going to the bulb. That's the feed to the left/right switch. Then from the switch just run the power feed, in parallel, to each of your indicator bulbs. The other wire from each bulb goes to ground.
Hope this helps
Cheers Andy
Yes complete clarity. Thankyou
Just what I was looking for thanks 👍🏽
very helpful,thanks Andy.cheers Graeme in Taranaki
I changed to LED taillights on my campervan and have hyperflashing. I tried fixing it with the resistors but it made the LED lights very dim. Ive ordered an LED flasher relay instead but its 5 pins and my other 5 pins are in different locations.
Wondering how to wire it up?
My old relay (25230C9961) is numbered 1,2,3,4,5 and my new relay EP27 is labelled as + - I L & L1
Thanks
Great Explanation , thank you
Thanks for the info.
But this is only controlling 1 set of bulbs. So how can 1 relay control both left and right turn signals?
Via the switch next to the steering wheel or on the handlebars if a motorcycle.
Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic [edit] Oh wait I get it now! The left/off/right switch comes AFTER the relay and determines where the power coming from the relay is going to. [/edit]
Thanks for the reply but I still don't get it.
I mean, there's only 1 wire for output...
So what actually hapens when you switch left to right?
Thank you. Help me physical understand the 3 pin flasher relay circuit.
great vid!! thanks
I forgot to ground my device. Thanks mate. I appreciate the vid💯
Why is my LF1-S-PIN (2 wire) relay blinking normally only with engine OFF on a 2000 Yamaha TDM ? As soon as I turn engine on relay starts blinking faster.
Hmmm....check your charging rate. It may be a fault with the reg/rectifier. Also get your battery checked and check for volt drop between the terminals of tge battery and the wires coming off.
Hope this helps
Cheers Andy
Hello , great video Thankyou. How do you wire in a switch into this set up. Thanks Shawn
Hello, if i attach my 49a wire to a on-off-on style switch in the off position will i be able to control a left / right circuit
Is the 12volt coming from the signal from the indicator switch?
It depends on the circuit - some are switched ground whilst others are switched on the positive side of the circuit. Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic ummm maybe im a bit confused...if my bike already has a relay can i put in 2 flashing relays, 1 for each side, and use the positive from the existing wiring into the new relay and then run new wiring to each side of the bike. At the moment my new scrolling indicators dont even flash
Useful video. Thank You!
Thanks 😀
Awesome Job on the video outstanding
I'm just wondering if this is possible,the indicators don't work on the right hand side of the fiat doblo i just bought.I have diagnosed it to a faulty indicator relay on the bcm circuit board.
It operated the left indicators ok but wires for right indicators are dead at the bcm output.
Would it be possible to wire in a conventional relay just to operate right side indicators from my indicator stalk??Thanks.
How flasher relay work in heavy vehicles with right left and hazard indication?
Hi Anil, sorry, I don't have any experience in heavy vehicle wiring.
Andy
@@AndyMechanic it's okay 😊
Hi Andy. I have a question, is it posible to wire LED flashing lights without a switch and have them come on everytime the brakes are applied on a Harley Davidson?
Thank you in advance for your response.
Hi Danny, yes, should be easy enough. Though the circuitry to make the LED lights flash would ideally need to be integral to the LED lights so a bit of research needed.
However, have you considered the legality of such additional lights? A brake light both in the UK & here in NZ must illuminate when a brake is applied (motorcycle front or rear) & must maintain a steady output whilst the brake is applied. In the US they often use the same light to indicate that the vehicle is turning - by flashing the brake light.
What you propose may well cause confusion to those driving vehicles behind you, implying that you intend to turn.
Hope this is of help.
Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic thank you Andy. I meant strobe lights, or warning lights. Here in America, some motorcycles use strobe warning lights for safety when breaking. But I don’t want to have a switch for it. There are modules I could buy, but they are not strong enough for me. Thank you sir.
@@AndyMechanic thank you Andy. I meant strobe lights, or warning lights. Here in America, some motorcycles use strobe warning lights for safety when breaking. But I don’t want to have a switch for it. There are modules I could buy, but they are not strong enough for me. Thank you sir.
Thanks so much for the explanation!!
Andy, 1991 Honda Africa Twin. Stock turn signals. I notice in cold weather when I activate the turn signal there is a significant delay before the signal starts flashing. Works normal in warm weather with instant flashing. Would you say bad relay?
Hi Mike, Yes, I'd start there. They use a bi-metalic strip type relays which will take longer to warm up in cold weather - beat option is to swap it for an electronic one - they just plug straight in. Take your oodles relay with you so they match up the correct one & make a note of the wattage of each flasher bulb - will be in your service manual under electrical specifications
Cheers Andy
@AndyMechanic hi Andy I have a uforce atv I have put aftermarket lights in it, I have hooked up turn signals to a 3 pin flasher relay. I now want to add in my Hazzard lights. I have purchased a 5pin rocker switch but I can not for the life of me figure out how to get hazards to flash!! I have hooked wires on rocker I think every way possible. I can hook up wires and the turn signals work but you turn rocker on and I get nothing. Any help or suggestions would be great ty.
Hi, yes, most manufacturers have 2 separate relays, the problem is the load, it's doubled when you turn on the hazards & this then often puts the relay over spec on max current.
You may get it to work with one relay if you use an electronic type relay rather than the old school bi-metalic strip type. I remember our old Suzuki jeeps had two relays.
Hope that helps?
Cheers
Andy
@@AndyMechanic this is what I am using, should I be using a 4 pin? I'm thinking 3 pin is my problem
The relay needs to be upstream of the switchgear, that way you can activate just one side or both sides. If I was doing the job I'd definitely just use 2 relays, one for the indicator circuit & one for the Hazzard circuit. Easier to diagnose faults further down the line too.
Sorry, got to go, have to get on a plane.
Cheers
Andy
So I'm a little confused, now the relay basically intermittently interrupts the circuit to cause the bulbs to flash if It stays solid is it because there is too much wattage going into the bulbs or not enough ?
Not enough and as a result the bi-metalic strip does not heat sufficiency to deflect & break the circuit.
Hope this helps. Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic thank you for the reply it definitely helps , I think the bulbs I have are too low a wattage, is there a flasher relay that would work for lower wattage? I have a 1983 Suzuki GS750T
Figured it out I changed the relay and it worked thanks again
Great explanation! What gauge wire should I use for adding turn signals and horn to a 2015 wr450?
Question, I have a 03 buick regal. The car will not start if the turn signal switch is activated, or I can say if I'm driving the car and I turn my signals on the car turns off,, any idea why?
listen Sir : I have a relay calls Hella : it has 4 pins (31/49/49a/c2) what is the C2 exactly for and how to wire it ? I could wire one or two lamps without using the C2 pin ... but what it is used for ? I will be thankful with your answer
Nice one dude, if ive got a mix of LEDs and normal bulbs, will the electronic relay work with both?
I have an issue where the new relay doesnt work and im feeling a bit lost!!!
Yes,,it should work now problem provided the total current consumed is within the relays rating.
Cheers
Andy
@@AndyMechanic thanks for your help buddy, i was going out of my mind, turns out i had a faulty relay, helpful seller on ebay "Lightec-uk" very helpful is sending me out another!!
I was worried my LEDs didnt draw enough to activate the relay, thanks for your info in the video, very helpful
I would like to install a flashing headlights, what could I use, or what device should I use?
It can be done using a combination of a flasher relay and a 5 pin change over relay.....easy :-)
So an electronic flasher 3 pin will work on front and rear and mirror turn signals ? What about running lights? I have a 2004 EZGO TXT:Marathon golf cart. Any thoughts….Thank You Andy!
hello, I installed a 3 wire hazard switch on my moto but doesnt blink. It wants to blink but it looks like has not to much power to to do this. I use regular lamps, not LED. Any suggestion?
Great video! A '?'.. I need to replace an existing faulty 12v 2 prong relay that's malfunctioning on a 64 vw beetle (no emergency flasher in 64, it's just for turn signals). Was told I should go to the 3 prong (newer type) so the pin 31 can go to a grd so it works properly. Would this be true? Thanks for any feedback!
Hi, I'm wanting to try this but my motorbike has hazard lights too. My bike is a Honda and the original relay (for filament bulbs) has 4 pins. Would my hazard lights still work with a 3 pin universal relay? And I have an led 2 pin relay (adjustable flash speed) would my hazards still work on a 2 pin relay? Thanks for a great video 👍
Hi I have a question I’m a volunteer fire fighter I have red 3/4 led’s (15) and I have them wired into my park light and was wanting to make them flash when I have a fire call. And when not on a call I want them to b (steady on) how can I do this with a flasher. I know I’d have to add a toggle switch.
Hi Andy loved the video, can you tell me what size flasher I would need two pin , to run indicators at 10 watts per bulb ? Regards Marc
Hi Mark, will that just be one indicator front & one rear? No side mounted indicators? If so then just one that works with a 20 Watt draw (which is very low). You may be better getting an electronic flasher relay instead due to the low current draw.
Hope this helps. Cheers Andy
Andy Mechanic it’s going to be two on either side Andy front and rear , iv wired everything up but it’s flashing a bit too quickly?
Ah, okay, if it's flashing too fast than the current draw is too high for the flasher relay you have. You'll either need to get lower wattage bulbs or a higher rated relay or an electronic relay (electronic type relays flash at a set Hz independent of bulb wattage unlike the old bimetal strip type relays.
Andy Mechanic ok thanks very much Andy keep up the great videos my friend
This is super helpful!!! I've recently installed LED's on all the exterior flasher bulbs on my 86 GMC K1500 they worked good with the bulbs installed for all the rear lights then when I installed the front flasher LED bulbs they all flashed very slow. I'm assuming its either a problem with my relay or the load is somehow being blocked from LEDs between the front or back. I was going to try load resistors to even out the ammount of power going to the LED's. now that I've watched your video I think the flasher relays may be more of the problem though.
what about the 2pin flasher relay sir
Very simple, just wire in circuit prior to the indicator switch
You forgot to hook up your ground to the metal mounting bracket on the red colored electronic relay. That is why it did not work. Normally, if the relay was mounted, it would get it's ground through the frame of the vehicle. I sure you just forgot.
thank you
Very nice video I'm recommending
Thanks Alan, I appreciate your feedback. Cheers Andy
You'll have to connect the Ground to the metal bracket of the LED Flasher Relay...it's actually a body ground type relay as far as I guess...
hi andy, I fixed separate 2pin flasher relay(similar to the original one) without removing the original flasher relay for hazard signal light configuration for my bike. in addition to the main front and rear signal lights (basically halogen), there are two led handle signal lights. the problem is once I connected front signal lights double signal light didn't work. without front signal lights it is working perfectly. for testing purposes, I fixed two led strips for the front and checked. then hazard signal lights did work. what could be the reason for this
I will put those on my bicycle =))
I once put an air horn on my Mountain bike - was so much fun when riding down the streets of York city centre! :-)