Thank you so much for the video. I've now got a game plan to make my own turn signal lighting harness for my John Deere Gator RSX860M. That was going to cost me $750 to have the factory harness and lights installed at my dealer. The low cost option was to buy a $420 factory wiring harness and switch, purchase my own lights and install myself. I bet I can buy all the parts and make my own for under $100! Great and inspiring tutorial.
Very well done explanation! I have watched several videos on relays and never understood it until now! Thanks Andy once again for spreading valuable knowledge;)
Great video that answered some of my questions especially about the load and speed of the flash. I'm looking for a way to make a 12 volt LED strip flash using this same idea however not on a vehicle.
thank you so much!! i have been looking for a video like this and you explained it so nicely. also,i have never seen anyone make nines the way you do,most people make the circle part of the nine first..... thanks again,great video.
Like the basics, good refresher, but you probably might add running lights like ones found on my old 1983 kawasaki 750 ltd. The reason I feel it would be beneficial is the front and rear running lights the turn signals share the same single filament bulb and a 2 conductor flaher. This would help those whom don't understand how that one filament can flash when the lights are on, trouble shoot more effectively. So it is my opinion. If you would include the ignition switch and turn signal switch and maybe the separate two conductor hazard flasher could be even more beneficial for understanding what real world scenarios, such as chasing a bad wire/connector or multifunctional switch like in my 04 Ford f350 can greatly complicate simple circuits such as a flasher
VERY GOOD Explanation and Demonstration, I Thank You as I was having trouble with a universal new turn signal switch on my Club Car DS. I will go ATTACK that little problem with much better approach!! Thanks Again! John S.
Great video! I noticed that the light bulb's connection to the LED relay was accidentally connected at the 39, not the 39a (around time 9:30 in the video). That might be why the LED one didn't work
Thank you, as a fellow educator I must say you do great work please keep it up ! I'm sure I'll be refering to you again ;) cheers from Victoria BC Canada
Thanks for the lessons. Im wiring a motorcycle from complete tear down. What part of the circuit is the switch usual wired? I can wire it a couple of ways to make it work, but I'm sure there's a way it's traditionally wired. I'm an electrician with limited automotive wiring experience. Thanks again for your knowledge and sharing your time!
Hi Andy I've installed LED to my 2007 Vulcan and the rear is all good with 2 wire setup but the front which are 3wire stay on but indicate when you activate switch so you have both lights on with one blinking. I also installed aftermarket relay for LED lights which is a 2pin same as the original.
working on a project vehicle without any signals (yet) Do you have a vid on how to wire in a complete system (using a three prong electronic flasher) or other. This vid showed how to get a flash, but not how to get it to flash left or right through a three position switch ie: on - off - on (like on a cycle)
Hi, ah, that's easy. The output from the relay that you have going to the bulb. That's the feed to the left/right switch. Then from the switch just run the power feed, in parallel, to each of your indicator bulbs. The other wire from each bulb goes to ground. Hope this helps Cheers Andy
Andy, 1991 Honda Africa Twin. Stock turn signals. I notice in cold weather when I activate the turn signal there is a significant delay before the signal starts flashing. Works normal in warm weather with instant flashing. Would you say bad relay?
Hi Mike, Yes, I'd start there. They use a bi-metalic strip type relays which will take longer to warm up in cold weather - beat option is to swap it for an electronic one - they just plug straight in. Take your oodles relay with you so they match up the correct one & make a note of the wattage of each flasher bulb - will be in your service manual under electrical specifications Cheers Andy
Hi Andy. I have a question, is it posible to wire LED flashing lights without a switch and have them come on everytime the brakes are applied on a Harley Davidson? Thank you in advance for your response.
Hi Danny, yes, should be easy enough. Though the circuitry to make the LED lights flash would ideally need to be integral to the LED lights so a bit of research needed. However, have you considered the legality of such additional lights? A brake light both in the UK & here in NZ must illuminate when a brake is applied (motorcycle front or rear) & must maintain a steady output whilst the brake is applied. In the US they often use the same light to indicate that the vehicle is turning - by flashing the brake light. What you propose may well cause confusion to those driving vehicles behind you, implying that you intend to turn. Hope this is of help. Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic thank you Andy. I meant strobe lights, or warning lights. Here in America, some motorcycles use strobe warning lights for safety when breaking. But I don’t want to have a switch for it. There are modules I could buy, but they are not strong enough for me. Thank you sir.
@@AndyMechanic thank you Andy. I meant strobe lights, or warning lights. Here in America, some motorcycles use strobe warning lights for safety when breaking. But I don’t want to have a switch for it. There are modules I could buy, but they are not strong enough for me. Thank you sir.
@@AndyMechanic ummm maybe im a bit confused...if my bike already has a relay can i put in 2 flashing relays, 1 for each side, and use the positive from the existing wiring into the new relay and then run new wiring to each side of the bike. At the moment my new scrolling indicators dont even flash
You forgot to hook up your ground to the metal mounting bracket on the red colored electronic relay. That is why it did not work. Normally, if the relay was mounted, it would get it's ground through the frame of the vehicle. I sure you just forgot.
Great video! A '?'.. I need to replace an existing faulty 12v 2 prong relay that's malfunctioning on a 64 vw beetle (no emergency flasher in 64, it's just for turn signals). Was told I should go to the 3 prong (newer type) so the pin 31 can go to a grd so it works properly. Would this be true? Thanks for any feedback!
Hi, I'm wanting to try this but my motorbike has hazard lights too. My bike is a Honda and the original relay (for filament bulbs) has 4 pins. Would my hazard lights still work with a 3 pin universal relay? And I have an led 2 pin relay (adjustable flash speed) would my hazards still work on a 2 pin relay? Thanks for a great video 👍
@@AndyMechanic Hi, me also please. I'm building a Trike and would like to see how to wire up Hazard lights that operate via a single switch. Idealy how to wire in to the existing bike indicators. thanks
@@shammon1 That's a good idea forgot to add that into my comment ideally how Ronald it into the exiting wireing loom of the bike as that will be the scenario for most folks
I'm just wondering if this is possible,the indicators don't work on the right hand side of the fiat doblo i just bought.I have diagnosed it to a faulty indicator relay on the bcm circuit board. It operated the left indicators ok but wires for right indicators are dead at the bcm output. Would it be possible to wire in a conventional relay just to operate right side indicators from my indicator stalk??Thanks.
Question, I have a 03 buick regal. The car will not start if the turn signal switch is activated, or I can say if I'm driving the car and I turn my signals on the car turns off,, any idea why?
Why is my LF1-S-PIN (2 wire) relay blinking normally only with engine OFF on a 2000 Yamaha TDM ? As soon as I turn engine on relay starts blinking faster.
Hmmm....check your charging rate. It may be a fault with the reg/rectifier. Also get your battery checked and check for volt drop between the terminals of tge battery and the wires coming off. Hope this helps Cheers Andy
Hi I have a question I’m a volunteer fire fighter I have red 3/4 led’s (15) and I have them wired into my park light and was wanting to make them flash when I have a fire call. And when not on a call I want them to b (steady on) how can I do this with a flasher. I know I’d have to add a toggle switch.
@AndyMechanic hi Andy I have a uforce atv I have put aftermarket lights in it, I have hooked up turn signals to a 3 pin flasher relay. I now want to add in my Hazzard lights. I have purchased a 5pin rocker switch but I can not for the life of me figure out how to get hazards to flash!! I have hooked wires on rocker I think every way possible. I can hook up wires and the turn signals work but you turn rocker on and I get nothing. Any help or suggestions would be great ty.
Hi, yes, most manufacturers have 2 separate relays, the problem is the load, it's doubled when you turn on the hazards & this then often puts the relay over spec on max current. You may get it to work with one relay if you use an electronic type relay rather than the old school bi-metalic strip type. I remember our old Suzuki jeeps had two relays. Hope that helps? Cheers Andy
The relay needs to be upstream of the switchgear, that way you can activate just one side or both sides. If I was doing the job I'd definitely just use 2 relays, one for the indicator circuit & one for the Hazzard circuit. Easier to diagnose faults further down the line too. Sorry, got to go, have to get on a plane. Cheers Andy
Hi Andy Mechanic, Thanks for a great video. I have just fitted a brand new set of LED blinkers, new wiring and a brand new steering column indicator switch unit on my vintage car. The lights glow and don't flash. I gather that I need to include an electronic relay. Where do you suggest I pick up one in Auckland. Is this a better approach than installing load resistors? David.
Hi David, yes, replacing the relay is by far the best option. Take your existing relay and wiring diagram to TWL - they are Hella agents and will be able to match up the correct electronic relay to suit your application. Great job. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers Andy
Hello, I installed LED lights on my VW bug all the way around and now my turn signals won't work.. what do you think happened and what can I do to make it work?
Hi Andy! New subscriber here. Love this video. I'm a tech of 15 years and I do understand flasher relays a bit. However, I have a question maybe you could help with. I have a 2007 Victory Hammer that both right side directionals are not working due to a failure in the auto cancel module. By bypassing the wires to the module and wiring a separate relay, i should be able to have the right side working again, correct? Basically what is happening is I have a constant ground to the wire going to the module but when putting the flasher on, it does not power. Thanks
opps, mistake - OMMISION , did anyone pick it up? you did not mention, the beauty of the old globe system, when one ( indicators are 10w SINGLE FILAMENT GLOBES) of the twin set FRONT AND BACK per left or right blows out- fails, the flashing speed doubles- TELLING THE DRIVER TO FIX - REPLACE THE BURN OUT BULB,
Can a wire such kind of relay to my center stop light somehow?i want when i press the brakes the center stop light to flash like the turn signals flashes.Is it possible to wire it like this?
Hey Andy!! I use the 2nd type of relay at work all the time. Was hoping you could give me some pretty specific pointers. I use these for wiring up street legal kits with turn signals, ect. on side by sides and atvs. I'm relatively new in the game, and have been tasked with figure out how to integrate the rear brake lights as working turn signal indicators on a 2018 Polaris RZR turbo 1000. I've managed to do so, but am unaware of a way to cancel out the brake signal to the corresponding tail light during turn signal use. So turn signal will flash tail light until brakes are depressed, and then brake signal overrides the flasher signal and just stays lit. I assume i need a different kind of relay, like a d.p.d.t. with the brake switch somehow wired into it, but have no experience in such things. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can get wiring diagrams if needed.
I have new LED's on an old bike .They would not work unless i fitted another older type bulb so i figured not enough load .I bought a specific relay for led's but they now all come on at the same time?
+stephen davis hmmmm. ..it sounds to me like either you have the wrong configuration electronic relay (pins are not in correct places) or if your bike has a hazard light switch you may have swapped put the hazard relay and not the indicator relay - sometimes there are two. Hope this helps. Cheers Andy
My friends Suzuki k 50 from 1989 has two 3 pin flashers. It made the same sound as your did at 8.18. He had only his rear ones connected because the previous owner had disconnected the front ones. I am helping him to get it working again but now doesn't anything happen and I have connected it like original. It doesn't even sound in the relays. I guess the power doesn't move from the switch or is the relays burned.
+Emil Qvarnström you may have the wrong wattage bulbs fitted. Too low a wattage and the relay won't operate. Have you changed the indicator lamps to LED by any chance?
nope its all stock and all bulbs is working. i dont know if its to little. they worked when it was only installed in the rear but then they didnt flash. i have to look on the relays and see what they say
I have a KLR250 bike and when I indicate and put the brakes on at the same time the indicator often stops flashing, but not all of the time. What could be the problem there? Also when I am turning a corner with the indicator on, the engine begins missing until I turn the indicator off. How could this be related?
+Colin Harrison It's most likely a bad earth on the indicator circuit. Or it could be low battery voltage due to low charging rate. You can easily check the latter by watching my video on checking charging rates - there are a few but one on the GN250 is probably the simplest. Hope this helps. Cheers Andy
I recently bought a KTM 250xcf-w 2007 is street legal, I already have tail light and head light, I would like to install turn signals front and back. I am having a lot of trouble find how to wire and do everything can anyone help? Thanks
+Rc Akash Hi, problem could be a number of things but first increase bulb wattage as in video. If load (amps) on relay isn't high enough relay won't cycle. Also check wiring and earth's for high resistance (corrosion, poor connections etc) as this reduces current flow.
Thxx a lot for your precious reply sir can u please tell me one more thing that when I am using the original flasher relay that time it is giving a loud sound just as at 8:17 in the video can u please tell me why and what to do as ur reply is very precious thxx a lot ?
Andy Mechanic Thanks Andy. Thought so as soon as I unplug it from its optimizer it drops a volt straight away to 12.86 from 13.8 funny thing is the bike will start?
Why wuld my car to refuse shut of because of flasher relay? Same 3 pin relay in that video. I cant finde problem with that thing can I use diodes on that thing? What ever it is when all 4 lights are turned on engin works in union with the flasher,my engin has tendency to self acelerate when lights are on,my trothel cabel fir some reason on my carburetor gets contracted if I dont stop useing lights and I took of blow by hosse . I have realy big problem with my lights . I have 3 relays they do strange staff but non fix my problem . Even the bulbs are corect size and value. It started when I changed out handels on stering and changed to newr light design on my 80s opel who is by the way gm product how ever the bulb holder design and wire lay out are the same . So I can not finde any thing suspiciuse in that thing. I even unpluged my ignition coil positive out and that thing still runs . What Am I missing there? Is my relay actualy become somthing similar to ignitor module? I look inside that thing and lot transistors capacitors all kinde of resistors I have strange fealing my ignition coil is fiering from the ground some how,ore it fumeled with my alternator for some reason I fried my multimeter it shown 15v and is claiming with engin speed increasing . So what the hell happening? Wires dont see damaged plugs look ok corosion I remowed with sand paper so changed out 3 relays and always get diferent results front left activated back right tail light and blinker the other work just on 1 side the third relay does not do any thing all lights goes on ? How to hell I solve this problem can I put diode ore somthing like that? What ever it is its anoying my . I like my engin power I wont lie 😘 but that ghost electricity nearly killed my that was not great at all . I dono Im out of ideas aperantly that deam 3 pin relay can act as kinde of oscilator so Im not shure how to deal with it 😵
+matthew fiore yes, more often than not but you best check the total wattage of the standard bulbs and check that it's under the max for the relay. I take it you mean an electronic type flasher relay as opposed to the old bi-metal strip mechanical type?
+matthew fiore yes, more often than not but you best check the total wattage of the standard bulbs and check that it's under the max for the relay. I take it you mean an electronic type flasher relay as opposed to the old bi-metal strip mechanical type?
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Excellent! I've never worked with electrics. Now I'm ready to fix DIY indicators on my tricycle! Thank you :D
No problem :-)
Great video, needed to use a flasher relay for a horn on an alarm system.. This helped a lot, thanks Andy
Thanks alot! I just got a bike with no electronics and I've always been unsure of how to wire indicators! Thank you!!
How did you make out? Did you use this video to make it work? I’m trying to light up a school bus prop hoping this video is the ticket
Great video thanks. So well explained. Just helped me set up a homemade splashing duck decoy that I couldn't get working.
Thanks Andy, helped me diagnose a little headache. Good info 👍
Thank you so much for the video. I've now got a game plan to make my own turn signal lighting harness for my John Deere Gator RSX860M. That was going to cost me $750 to have the factory harness and lights installed at my dealer. The low cost option was to buy a $420 factory wiring harness and switch, purchase my own lights and install myself. I bet I can buy all the parts and make my own for under $100! Great and inspiring tutorial.
thank you so much for help, and you are right "always keep it easy".
Very well done explanation! I have watched several videos on relays and never understood it until now! Thanks Andy once again for spreading valuable knowledge;)
Great video that answered some of my questions especially about the load and speed of the flash. I'm looking for a way to make a 12 volt LED strip flash using this same idea however not on a vehicle.
+JD L An electronic flasher relay will do that - it's not load sensitive
finaly a tutorial video on a new zealand bassed channell,,, hi there from christchurch
+Abe Coulter Hi Abe, pleased you found the video helpful. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers Andy
Thankyou very informative, and the three pin type is exactly what i have on my VW type 2 camper
Super Andy, thanks from the Netherlands!! :-)
Geeez, that man BENDS SPACE around himself!!!
thank you so much!! i have been looking for a video like this and you explained it so nicely. also,i have never seen anyone make nines the way you do,most people make the circle part of the nine first..... thanks again,great video.
Brilliant Thanks Andy you should teach full time
Thanks for the great job very goo simple and easy appreciations from Denmark
thank you so much for explaining electrical wizardry so clearly
Like the basics, good refresher, but you probably might add running lights like ones found on my old 1983 kawasaki 750 ltd. The reason I feel it would be beneficial is the front and rear running lights the turn signals share the same single filament bulb and a 2 conductor flaher. This would help those whom don't understand how that one filament can flash when the lights are on, trouble shoot more effectively. So it is my opinion. If you would include the ignition switch and turn signal switch and maybe the separate two conductor hazard flasher could be even more beneficial for understanding what real world scenarios, such as chasing a bad wire/connector or multifunctional switch like in my 04 Ford f350 can greatly complicate simple circuits such as a flasher
VERY GOOD Explanation and Demonstration, I Thank You as I was having trouble with a universal new turn signal switch on my Club Car DS. I will go ATTACK that little problem with much better approach!! Thanks Again! John S.
Great video! I noticed that the light bulb's connection to the LED relay was accidentally connected at the 39, not the 39a (around time 9:30 in the video). That might be why the LED one didn't work
thanks for showing basics of relays. I'm seeing a lot of really inexpensive 2 pin relays on the market, with adjustable rate, usually 50 - 200 c/min
Thanks. Top information. From John in the UK.
Thanks John.
Thank you, as a fellow educator I must say you do great work please keep it up ! I'm sure I'll be refering to you again ;) cheers from Victoria BC Canada
Thanks Jacob. Have a great day. Andy
Thank you. Help me physical understand the 3 pin flasher relay circuit.
Can appreciate your channel, wishing you must success. Cheers!
Cheers Pablo :-)
thanks very much will go and try it because i have a problem with my mazda 626 fs no turning light ,no hazards ,
Great vid, helped me test some relays
Thanks for the lessons. Im wiring a motorcycle from complete tear down. What part of the circuit is the switch usual wired? I can wire it a couple of ways to make it work, but I'm sure there's a way it's traditionally wired. I'm an electrician with limited automotive wiring experience. Thanks again for your knowledge and sharing your time!
exactly what I was looking for thx great vid
Very good video, clear to the point and easily understandable. Thanks Andy and keep the good work up.
Steave, Ipswich, UK.
thankyou for this verry imformative video,i love it! from philippines
Thanks! Helped greatly.
Yes, I agree... very informative. Thank you Andy. (new subscriber from Wgtn) :)
Hi Andy I've installed LED to my 2007 Vulcan and the rear is all good with 2 wire setup but the front which are 3wire stay on but indicate when you activate switch so you have both lights on with one blinking. I also installed aftermarket relay for LED lights which is a 2pin same as the original.
Great video! Helped me see the error of my ways hooking up my turn signal kit on my rzr.
+Dillon Weppler Awesome :-) really chuffed to know it helped you. Thanks for the feedback.
Merry Christmas. Andy
very helpful,thanks Andy.cheers Graeme in Taranaki
I forgot to ground my device. Thanks mate. I appreciate the vid💯
Thanks for your helping
Thanks you realy help me
working on a project vehicle without any signals (yet) Do you have a vid on how to wire in a complete system (using a three prong electronic flasher) or other. This vid showed how to get a flash, but not how to get it to flash left or right through a three position switch ie: on - off - on (like on a cycle)
Hi, ah, that's easy. The output from the relay that you have going to the bulb. That's the feed to the left/right switch. Then from the switch just run the power feed, in parallel, to each of your indicator bulbs. The other wire from each bulb goes to ground.
Hope this helps
Cheers Andy
very informative sir, thank you!!!
wonderful blinker
Just what I was looking for thanks 👍🏽
Thank you ! Very well explained
Andy, 1991 Honda Africa Twin. Stock turn signals. I notice in cold weather when I activate the turn signal there is a significant delay before the signal starts flashing. Works normal in warm weather with instant flashing. Would you say bad relay?
Hi Mike, Yes, I'd start there. They use a bi-metalic strip type relays which will take longer to warm up in cold weather - beat option is to swap it for an electronic one - they just plug straight in. Take your oodles relay with you so they match up the correct one & make a note of the wattage of each flasher bulb - will be in your service manual under electrical specifications
Cheers Andy
Hi Andy. I have a question, is it posible to wire LED flashing lights without a switch and have them come on everytime the brakes are applied on a Harley Davidson?
Thank you in advance for your response.
Hi Danny, yes, should be easy enough. Though the circuitry to make the LED lights flash would ideally need to be integral to the LED lights so a bit of research needed.
However, have you considered the legality of such additional lights? A brake light both in the UK & here in NZ must illuminate when a brake is applied (motorcycle front or rear) & must maintain a steady output whilst the brake is applied. In the US they often use the same light to indicate that the vehicle is turning - by flashing the brake light.
What you propose may well cause confusion to those driving vehicles behind you, implying that you intend to turn.
Hope this is of help.
Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic thank you Andy. I meant strobe lights, or warning lights. Here in America, some motorcycles use strobe warning lights for safety when breaking. But I don’t want to have a switch for it. There are modules I could buy, but they are not strong enough for me. Thank you sir.
@@AndyMechanic thank you Andy. I meant strobe lights, or warning lights. Here in America, some motorcycles use strobe warning lights for safety when breaking. But I don’t want to have a switch for it. There are modules I could buy, but they are not strong enough for me. Thank you sir.
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Is the 12volt coming from the signal from the indicator switch?
It depends on the circuit - some are switched ground whilst others are switched on the positive side of the circuit. Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic ummm maybe im a bit confused...if my bike already has a relay can i put in 2 flashing relays, 1 for each side, and use the positive from the existing wiring into the new relay and then run new wiring to each side of the bike. At the moment my new scrolling indicators dont even flash
Useful video. Thank You!
You forgot to hook up your ground to the metal mounting bracket on the red colored electronic relay. That is why it did not work. Normally, if the relay was mounted, it would get it's ground through the frame of the vehicle. I sure you just forgot.
Hello , great video Thankyou. How do you wire in a switch into this set up. Thanks Shawn
Great video! A '?'.. I need to replace an existing faulty 12v 2 prong relay that's malfunctioning on a 64 vw beetle (no emergency flasher in 64, it's just for turn signals). Was told I should go to the 3 prong (newer type) so the pin 31 can go to a grd so it works properly. Would this be true? Thanks for any feedback!
Hi, I'm wanting to try this but my motorbike has hazard lights too. My bike is a Honda and the original relay (for filament bulbs) has 4 pins. Would my hazard lights still work with a 3 pin universal relay? And I have an led 2 pin relay (adjustable flash speed) would my hazards still work on a 2 pin relay? Thanks for a great video 👍
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Thanks Andy
great vid!! thanks
Great explanation! What gauge wire should I use for adding turn signals and horn to a 2015 wr450?
Can you do a video on how to install hazard light function onto a motorcycle as all the videos are in Indian if u can help it will be great thanks
I'll add it to the list :-)
Cheers Andy
@@AndyMechanic Hi, me also please. I'm building a Trike and would like to see how to wire up Hazard lights that operate via a single switch. Idealy how to wire in to the existing bike indicators. thanks
@@shammon1
That's a good idea forgot to add that into my comment ideally how Ronald it into the exiting wireing loom of the bike as that will be the scenario for most folks
Great job fam 💪 well done explanation 👏👏
I would like to install a flashing headlights, what could I use, or what device should I use?
It can be done using a combination of a flasher relay and a 5 pin change over relay.....easy :-)
Great! Very well presented and very informative. Thanks, Andy!
I'm just wondering if this is possible,the indicators don't work on the right hand side of the fiat doblo i just bought.I have diagnosed it to a faulty indicator relay on the bcm circuit board.
It operated the left indicators ok but wires for right indicators are dead at the bcm output.
Would it be possible to wire in a conventional relay just to operate right side indicators from my indicator stalk??Thanks.
Question, I have a 03 buick regal. The car will not start if the turn signal switch is activated, or I can say if I'm driving the car and I turn my signals on the car turns off,, any idea why?
Why is my LF1-S-PIN (2 wire) relay blinking normally only with engine OFF on a 2000 Yamaha TDM ? As soon as I turn engine on relay starts blinking faster.
Hmmm....check your charging rate. It may be a fault with the reg/rectifier. Also get your battery checked and check for volt drop between the terminals of tge battery and the wires coming off.
Hope this helps
Cheers Andy
Hi I have a question I’m a volunteer fire fighter I have red 3/4 led’s (15) and I have them wired into my park light and was wanting to make them flash when I have a fire call. And when not on a call I want them to b (steady on) how can I do this with a flasher. I know I’d have to add a toggle switch.
Very brief and easy to understand. Great job
@AndyMechanic hi Andy I have a uforce atv I have put aftermarket lights in it, I have hooked up turn signals to a 3 pin flasher relay. I now want to add in my Hazzard lights. I have purchased a 5pin rocker switch but I can not for the life of me figure out how to get hazards to flash!! I have hooked wires on rocker I think every way possible. I can hook up wires and the turn signals work but you turn rocker on and I get nothing. Any help or suggestions would be great ty.
Hi, yes, most manufacturers have 2 separate relays, the problem is the load, it's doubled when you turn on the hazards & this then often puts the relay over spec on max current.
You may get it to work with one relay if you use an electronic type relay rather than the old school bi-metalic strip type. I remember our old Suzuki jeeps had two relays.
Hope that helps?
Cheers
Andy
@@AndyMechanic this is what I am using, should I be using a 4 pin? I'm thinking 3 pin is my problem
The relay needs to be upstream of the switchgear, that way you can activate just one side or both sides. If I was doing the job I'd definitely just use 2 relays, one for the indicator circuit & one for the Hazzard circuit. Easier to diagnose faults further down the line too.
Sorry, got to go, have to get on a plane.
Cheers
Andy
How flasher relay work in heavy vehicles with right left and hazard indication?
Hi Anil, sorry, I don't have any experience in heavy vehicle wiring.
Andy
@@AndyMechanic it's okay 😊
whats wrong with you. you have not given negative supply to the later electronic relay. how it gonna be work ?
Hell Yeah lmao
I was wondering same thing. He didnt hook up ground on flasher....
aguahuahahaahhaa.....ground or chassis....earth is a term usually used for alternate current AC....Good video anyway
Hi Andy Mechanic, Thanks for a great video. I have just fitted a brand new set of LED blinkers, new wiring and a brand new steering column indicator switch unit on my vintage car. The lights glow and don't flash. I gather that I need to include an electronic relay. Where do you suggest I pick up one in Auckland. Is this a better approach than installing load resistors? David.
Hi David, yes, replacing the relay is by far the best option. Take your existing relay and wiring diagram to TWL - they are Hella agents and will be able to match up the correct electronic relay to suit your application.
Great job. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers Andy
Great teach video not like others.
Hello, I installed LED lights on my VW bug all the way around and now my turn signals won't work.. what do you think happened and what can I do to make it work?
You'll need to change the flasher relay to an electronic type.
You'll have to connect the Ground to the metal bracket of the LED Flasher Relay...it's actually a body ground type relay as far as I guess...
How would you wire in a switch then?
Hi Andy! New subscriber here. Love this video. I'm a tech of 15 years and I do understand flasher relays a bit. However, I have a question maybe you could help with. I have a 2007 Victory Hammer that both right side directionals are not working due to a failure in the auto cancel module. By bypassing the wires to the module and wiring a separate relay, i should be able to have the right side working again, correct? Basically what is happening is I have a constant ground to the wire going to the module but when putting the flasher on, it does not power. Thanks
Thanks 😀
I will put those on my bicycle =))
I once put an air horn on my Mountain bike - was so much fun when riding down the streets of York city centre! :-)
Very nice video I'm recommending
Thanks Alan, I appreciate your feedback. Cheers Andy
opps, mistake - OMMISION , did anyone pick it up? you did not mention, the beauty of the old globe system, when one ( indicators are 10w SINGLE FILAMENT GLOBES) of the twin set FRONT AND BACK per left or right blows out- fails, the flashing speed doubles- TELLING THE DRIVER TO FIX - REPLACE THE BURN OUT BULB,
I wish my car had a relay, I'm stuck with a quiet turn signal and do a lot of granny signaling
so great information thanks friend
Can a wire such kind of relay to my center stop light somehow?i want when i press the brakes the center stop light to flash like the turn signals flashes.Is it possible to wire it like this?
Hey Andy!!
I use the 2nd type of relay at work all the time. Was hoping you could give me some pretty specific pointers. I use these for wiring up street legal kits with turn signals, ect. on side by sides and atvs. I'm relatively new in the game, and have been tasked with figure out how to integrate the rear brake lights as working turn signal indicators on a 2018 Polaris RZR turbo 1000. I've managed to do so, but am unaware of a way to cancel out the brake signal to the corresponding tail light during turn signal use. So turn signal will flash tail light until brakes are depressed, and then brake signal overrides the flasher signal and just stays lit. I assume i need a different kind of relay, like a d.p.d.t. with the brake switch somehow wired into it, but have no experience in such things. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I can get wiring diagrams if needed.
I wish you where my electrical engineer prof
Very understandable, thaks.
I have new LED's on an old bike .They would not work unless i fitted another older type bulb so i figured not enough load .I bought a specific relay for led's but they now all come on at the same time?
+stephen davis hmmmm. ..it sounds to me like either you have the wrong configuration electronic relay (pins are not in correct places) or if your bike has a hazard light switch you may have swapped put the hazard relay and not the indicator relay - sometimes there are two. Hope this helps. Cheers Andy
thanks for the great info
Thank you merci beaucoup
My friends Suzuki k 50 from 1989 has two 3 pin flashers. It made the same sound as your did at 8.18. He had only his rear ones connected because the previous owner had disconnected the front ones. I am helping him to get it working again but now doesn't anything happen and I have connected it like original. It doesn't even sound in the relays. I guess the power doesn't move from the switch or is the relays burned.
+Memil 1234 I think you will find that one of those relays is for the hazard light - when all flashers flash simultaneously
+Emil Qvarnström you may have the wrong wattage bulbs fitted. Too low a wattage and the relay won't operate.
Have you changed the indicator lamps to LED by any chance?
nope its all stock and all bulbs is working. i dont know if its to little. they worked when it was only installed in the rear but then they didnt flash. i have to look on the relays and see what they say
+Memil 1234 okay. Also check power to the relay. One of the pins should have battery voltage
I have a KLR250 bike and when I indicate and put the brakes on at the same time the indicator often stops flashing, but not all of the time. What could be the problem there? Also when I am turning a corner with the indicator on, the engine begins missing until I turn the indicator off. How could this be related?
+Colin Harrison It's most likely a bad earth on the indicator circuit. Or it could be low battery voltage due to low charging rate. You can easily check the latter by watching my video on checking charging rates - there are a few but one on the GN250 is probably the simplest.
Hope this helps. Cheers Andy
I recently bought a KTM 250xcf-w 2007 is street legal, I already have tail light and head light, I would like to install turn signals front and back. I am having a lot of trouble find how to wire and do everything can anyone help? Thanks
Does that model of KTM have a battery?
@@AndyMechanic yes it has a battery, thanks.
How do you wire in a hazards?
good job
That was great ! Thanks
+jeeperscreatures pleased you found the video helpful. Cheers Andy
Andy Mechanic
A little late but, you sure helped me understand how the relay works.
You deserve every like and sub you get :)
+korohone Thanks for that :-)
thanx a lot sir
But when I use flasher the 4 bulbs are just glowing but not indigating means just glow what to do please tell?
+Rc Akash Hi, problem could be a number of things but first increase bulb wattage as in video. If load (amps) on relay isn't high enough relay won't cycle. Also check wiring and earth's for high resistance (corrosion, poor connections etc) as this reduces current flow.
Thxx a lot for your precious reply sir can u please tell me one more thing that when I am using the original flasher relay that time it is giving a loud sound just as at 8:17 in the video can u please tell me why and what to do as ur reply is very precious thxx a lot ?
i keep blowing fuses after my relay stuffed out on me, sounds like a got a looming problem ahead.....
My led indicators wont work unless the engine is running or the bike is on its Ctek battery tender. Is my battery faulty?
Yes, looks like it could have a dead cell. A fully charged battery should be around 12.6v. Hope that helps. Cheers Andy
Andy Mechanic Thanks Andy. Thought so as soon as I unplug it from its optimizer it drops a volt straight away to 12.86 from 13.8 funny thing is the bike will start?
Saved my day! Haha
Why wuld my car to refuse shut of because of flasher relay? Same 3 pin relay in that video.
I cant finde problem with that thing can I use diodes on that thing?
What ever it is when all 4 lights are turned on engin works in union with the flasher,my engin has tendency to self acelerate when lights are on,my trothel cabel fir some reason on my carburetor gets contracted if I dont stop useing lights and I took of blow by hosse .
I have realy big problem with my lights .
I have 3 relays they do strange staff but non fix my problem .
Even the bulbs are corect size and value.
It started when I changed out handels on stering and changed to newr light design on my 80s opel who is by the way gm product how ever the bulb holder design and wire lay out are the same .
So I can not finde any thing suspiciuse in that thing.
I even unpluged my ignition coil positive out and that thing still runs .
What Am I missing there?
Is my relay actualy become somthing similar to ignitor module?
I look inside that thing and lot transistors capacitors all kinde of resistors I have strange fealing my ignition coil is fiering from the ground some how,ore it fumeled with my alternator for some reason I fried my multimeter it shown 15v and is claiming with engin speed increasing .
So what the hell happening?
Wires dont see damaged plugs look ok corosion I remowed with sand paper so changed out 3 relays and always get diferent results front left activated back right tail light and blinker the other work just on 1 side the third relay does not do any thing all lights goes on ?
How to hell I solve this problem can I put diode ore somthing like that?
What ever it is its anoying my .
I like my engin power I wont lie 😘 but that ghost electricity nearly killed my that was not great at all .
I dono Im out of ideas aperantly that deam 3 pin relay can act as kinde of oscilator so Im not shure how to deal with it 😵
now if i put a led relay do i have to change all the bulbs to led bulbs
+matthew fiore yes, more often than not but you best check the total wattage of the standard bulbs and check that it's under the max for the relay. I take it you mean an electronic type flasher relay as opposed to the old bi-metal strip mechanical type?
thanks alot for the speedy answer
+matthew fiore yes, more often than not but you best check the total wattage of the standard bulbs and check that it's under the max for the relay. I take it you mean an electronic type flasher relay as opposed to the old bi-metal strip mechanical type?
yes because my tail light has integrated turn signals that are led but my front turn signals are reg bulbs i was going to order electric relay
yes because my tail light has integrated turn signals that are led but my front turn signals are reg bulbs i was going to order electric relay