This is my family, Mike (Joel Sr.) & Lisa Guy, they were truly amazing people, my Uncle and Aunt. My dad and Mike were brothers, unfortunately my dad passed away in February 2001 from a terminal illness. This has really taken a toll on my family, so tragic and shocking. Joel Michael Jr doesn't deserve his father's name, he deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life!!!
@@alleyway2 No, absolutely no one helps him nor do they speak to him, not on my side of the family, which is Joel Michael Sr (Mike) or Lisa's. Everyone has completely disowned him! As we should. Thanks for asking about my family.
His mother should have retired but she kept working JUST to support her demanding son. She was an enabler and unfortunately he took it to the most evil and wicked extreme
I absolutely love him! ♥️ My gaydar is tingling but it may be because I don't know anyone from Tennessee or the South, and it's throwing me off? Dunno, he's great though.
They all should! I was on jury duty recently on a very large drug bust and the judge was wonderfully personable, was even open to the jury asking her questions directly if we needed clarification, it was great. Eased any nerves or tension and made it much easier to concentrate on what was going on in the room.
So his mom spends her last hours in Walmart buying food to feed her only son that she supported all his life. She lugged all those bags home on her own and actually had to face at some point the horrifying realisation that her boy was stabbing here to death. I’ve been watching true crime and criminal trials for a long time and this one is a truly horrific crime. The way he treated their bodies all so he didn’t have to get a job?! And now the state will have to use tax dollars to feed and house him until the day his utterly pathetic life ends.
I feel him being forced to work and pay bills and rent would be a bigger nightmare for him than to be in prison where someone else feeds and dresses him unfortunately
I noticed that he and his lawyers didn't engage in small talk at all. Just the case. No laughing or joking. No friendly banter. I would imagine he sickened them as much as he sickened the rest of us.
He may have been watching the dramatises Neil Leson in Britain recently who was the same sort of person when found out was blatantly enjoying the notoriety did the same thing with the head in pot etc They are loners Leson was a intelligent man with a string of good jobs once was in the police force The devil’s spirits dwelling in him that is why I believe in Christ Jesus pray for his protection I wish I had not stumbled on this compelling case Sad on every levels
Yes, but it’s an important part of the justice system. The jury needs to see all the evidence to be able to determine his guilt. Even if it’s obvious, this process must take place.
You know why Joel Guy, Jr. is wearing that clear visor instead of a face mask like everyone else? It is so the jury can see the expressions on his face as the testimony is presented.
He's actually wearing it for easier identification. They are reviewing video evidence, the clear plastic shield makes it easier for the jury/witnesses to compare the face of the defendant to the face of the subject in the videos and from the witness memories...
Oh good Lord.... when they pulled the stock pot out I felt sick to my stomach. I cannot even fathom having to hold that thing, let alone what it actually looked like to have a human head inside. Absolutely incomprehensible...
@Kay, I noticed defendant taking notes when the police officer talked about the groceries being left on the foyer floor..So it seems he is taking notes of his mistakes. Who knows why, maybe he thinks he will be let off? How could he be innocent when he wrote a step by step list and left it there for detectives to find? He also wrote down the "diabolical stew" comment the prosecutor made first day of court. Horrific!
Peter Galila That may explain why he didn’t plead guilty because he did mentioned when he was arrested and brought to the station that he wanted the death penalty.
What a creepy guy. Why do all murder defendants take so many notes. He actually has a pen. They only let Stabby Arias have one of those stumpy half pencils.
They take a lot of notes because the rest of their life depends on it. The notes could help their defense attorney make better arguments, which could sway the jury. (Not likely in this case...)
I think they do that because it's a good excuse to look down. Think of when you're embarrassed or don't want your face to tell any emotions...you look down, since you know you're being watched. They think that if their heads are down, you can't tell their emotions towards what's being discussed, since you can't see their face. Thats what makes me always think/know they are guilty. If they were innocent, they wouldn't need to hide their faces so much
Those poor siblings clearly loved both their step mother and their father too. He murdered both then sits in front of his siblings with a Holier Than Thou smirk on his piggish little face. Whomever suggested the clear visor over a mask didn’t like him much because it has revealed a LOT about him and how superior he feels to everyone in that room. Makes me want to wipe the smirk right off his piggish little face. I can’t begin to imagine how his siblings feel!
That’s exactly why they have him wearing it instead of a mask that would help conceal his smirks. They knew he was a narcissist who really thought he was the smartest person in that room. That is how narcissistic personality’s think. No matter how stupid they are in reality they think they are just geniuses. Like this guys notebook detailing his actions. The fact that he wrote all that down proves how completely stupid he really is.
Liv Penner if you haven’t watched the opening statements then worth the watch. As prosecutor was detailing the injuries he had to stop himself from laughing. He’s a monster 😡
Totally feel for the 3 daughters and the rest of the family having to sit through this. Even though she was their step mum they loved her and seemed like such a happy loving family ❤️
God bless this family❤️❤️ this man is a evil monster and has no remorse! How they ever forget such a horrific tragic event is beyond me. I pray for their daughters and all family 🙏🏽🙏🏽
It always baffles me when the defense asks the most random questions during cross. It’s like they feel they HAVE to ask something... certain testimony just doesn’t have a follow up.
I posted this before but I don't see it. Officer Campbell is a credit to Knox County and her profession. She was clear, pleasant and organized in every way. I can't imagine dealing with such a grisly topic but she didn't seem phased or hardened, either one. Just the facts, presented in the clearest way possible.
Did it make you feel better to post this twice? Maybe you should call KPD, and let the officer know how proud you are of her. Because she’s probably the only person that cares about your opinion on her
Obviously no remorse, I didn't expect any... But seeing his mom, alive coming out of Walmart on video was no big deal to him.... No emotion what so ever. I would have a hard time sitting there even in the same room with him if he were my brother and murdered my parents. I try not to hate people ... But this guy .. 😣😡
@txcracker535 yep i just couldn't sit there watching him. These people are way better than me. Unfortunately I'd be in jail on assault charges. He can't be punished enough for this, in this life and the afterlife.
@nameless face obviously you have no notion of the horror and confronting sights and situations that law enforcement, emergency responders and technicians have to deal with regularly. I pray you never have to deal with anything remotely like the ones those brave public servants do on behalf of law and order and on behalf of us the general public.
@@yvonnemurray4101 many take life for granted. Thank you for understanding my point. I guess we're supposed to accept this type of psychopath who soaks his Father and Mother's bodies in chemicals and decapitates his Mother as " normal" according to @nameless face. ( no shock here why the "nameless face" name was chosen.)
I'm still struggling to understand why he specifically boiled her head when she was the one supporting him. I know she probably was the one who initially told him he is cut off, but like.. that's a ton of energy and time spent on decapitating someone who clearly loved him, and it wasn't even included in his murder book
If he wanted to kill them, why didn’t he just shoot them and dump them in a forrest or somthing else. The way he treated the bodyes confirms that he in some way hated them. And wanted to treat them as respectless as possible. In a kind of revenge ? He is an awfull awfull creature. He should not even be allowed to be in the court-room. He is enjoying himself too much.
I would hate to be in court and have to sit in that chair where that murderous guy is sitting. They should destroy that chair when this is all over. Horror. Burn the chair.
Connie P. He touched the floor of the courtroom. Looks like they have to build a new courtroom. He also was in prison until his trial so looks like a new prison to
@@mandymoore5774 yeah. I think he may have written down the words "diabolical stew". That's how the prosecutor described the woman's head in the pot. And looked like he was smiling after she said it.
Yes. I thought how sad it would be for the children to watch their parents’ belongings.... my own mother just passed. I dread going through her things with my four siblings. I don’t want her to really be gone:(. Her things, her smell. Etc. it makes me cry to even think about it
Wow, the lead prosecutor, Leslie Nassios - amazing job! Enjoy your retirement after years of service and not sure if this was your last major trial but if so- what a finale and testament to your expertise. Well done.
I feel like I’ve seen this judge before. I really like how he tries to keep the jury informed about the process. This is one of the most horrific cases I’ve ever seen. Terrible that his parents knew in their last moments that it was their son killing them. 😔
I think one of the things that disgusts me so much is the fact that it probably was his parents money buying the supplies Joel used to complete the murder and attempted clean up.
He wrote a letter to the Tennessee Department of Corrections stating that he was having fantasy about gouging out his cell mates eyes. He said that since there’s a no-sharps restriction he has to use his fingers but that won’t deter him. He then states that he doesn’t logically believe that his cell mate deserves to be blind and asks them to stop him from acting on these fantasies, and says “I shouldn’t be allowed around another person while they’re unconscious”. He said that he doesn’t want more criminal charges brought against him or end up with a disciplinary infraction. I just found this interesting information and thought I would share. This is another attempt to once again isolate himself. His first attempt was trying to get the death penalty, because you’re in a solitary cell on death row. When that didn’t work, he wrote this letter in hopes they’ll takes his letter seriously and move him to solitary confinement.
I clicked on this not knowing and at the time I was in shock I just kept watching. Now i totally regret it. Now I can't get it out of my mind. If anyone else is seriously bothered which I'm sure everyone is...what I'm saying is give a thumbs up I will pray for your mind to somehow forget too. Pray for me as well thanks
I left the headphones in to have an extra little snooze this morning. I woke up to hear an officer describing sweeping a house. Was suddenly wide awake when I heard the voice saying "there was a hand on the floor" and realised it was just a hand with nothing attached... EDIT: PS thank you for thinking of us. It's hard listening, isn't it?
A visor is pointless full stop unless you are close proximity to someone coughing/spitting/. If it's floating around the air (which would be the perceived risk if you're not in close proximity to someone) then an open ended face shield is doing absolutely nothing. I'm never sure why people wear them unless working in a hospital in close direct contact with people.
I think as sad as the case is, for them getting these crazy tragic ones is like wowww exciting in a way if that makes sense and hes probably like the fools going to prison forever
This is why u dont spoil your kids and/or allow them to "run" the house because when they are in their 30's & you're ready to say NO to handouts ,etc ,they can't handle it & may possibly kill you!! I guess it depends on what kind of monster you been creating/enabling....
Does anyone else wish they knew what was going through Jr's mind? I need to be able to understand people like him. We are living with more like him than most people realize. They are in high positions in business and government and we allow them to make decisions for us.
He's not a psychopath, he's a freeloader. People like him don't kill for lust but for greed. he was probably just thinking that he's not going to get any money after all
It’d be pointless to try to prove anything at this point unless it’s claiming insanity or just aiming for a lighter sentence. Trying to prove any kind of innocence would be like trying to climb Mount Everest barefoot.
Its totally unfathomable that he would do this simply because his allowance was being cut. Most people would think its time to get a job, but not Jnr, he was still thinking about how he could get even more money.
I’m super confused as to why he even bothered to plead not guilty. There’s no way he’s getting away with this, no shred of reasonable doubt, he’s on 2 surveillance cameras purchasing the exact items found at the crime scene!! Coincidence?! No way! I wonder what was going through his mind after he slaughtered them...after the adrenaline and rage was gone and the “deed” was done. Did he even have a moment of remorse? Makes me sick.
I think he both: wanted the attention AND get to re-live it all. Plus knowing he would get to see all his sisters suffer thru it , as well as photos/videos his disgusting, messy macabre handy-work. He definitely wasn’t done so he needed a part 2.
I think hes just arrogant & sincerely thought-nay Presumed-he could get away with it. And with the mess he made!! Boy, you bad at this. It really shows his grandiose nature. He made Such a mess & left his murder book With the bodies. Big dummy.
I'm glad we could all see clearly the lack of remorse leaving no room for doubt that it is indeed a monster seated before the jury. In my opinion death is too good for this monster. Thoughts and deepest sympathy are with the family and friends of the victims.
So he clearly had mental issues way back...and I don’t know if his parents did anything about it for 20 odd years but in the end wanted a mentally unstable child to move out at once without any assistance...he may be an adult but he must’ve needed help, otherwise not only he might hurt himself, but he might end up hurting or killing other people instead of the parents. Not sympathizing with parent-killing demons but trying to clear up part of the mystery in terms of motivation.
@@fanofrpgalore1546 Mental health issues very rarely result in violence. People deal with vast trauma, awful childhoods, chronic depression, anxiety and so on, and it doesn't make them violent. This guy is a psychopath, blaming the victims is not helpful.
The only other case I’ve been this shocked by was the Chris Watts case. It’s a whole other level of evil to purposefully hurt and *kill* your FAMILY. I hope this “man” never has a day of peace.
What is he writing? He picks up his pen every now and then, and starts writing. After what he did, ya' give him a pointy object? Nawwŵ! He gets a dull crayon! Supervised!
I'm pretty sure he is writing remarks for his defense team to use (because he believes he is so smart).. For example, in the first part when the cop who entered the residence was on the stand, the cop made a slight contradiction in his statement... Then immediately Joel started writing.. Then when the defense had a chance to ask questions.. That was the first question they asked.. I've also watched the Jodie Arias case trials, and she (who also believed she was smart) used to do the same , she would write notes and pass them to her lawyer.
Wow. He is so detached from all this. He seems to not care that this is about his murdered parents Not a tear, no remorse or shock for what he has done. Scary! Total respect for awesome lady police officer. She's amazing!
I think this is really informative as well to how courts are really held since tv shows only show so much. I also love this judge he is a fantastic judge
Could you imagine having to be the DEFENSE LAWYER in this case?!! I mean, it's one thing to have to look at all the crime scene photos, but to have to try to convince anyone of this sick bastards innocence?!!
Were they were court appointed ? He can’t afford a defense lawyer and I know Mark Stephens the sorta handsome one - was once the public defender for Knox County.
Why didn't Cambell get to answer questions about the head, it being there I mean. And how it was discovered. The medical examiner will talk about it but she didn't find it.
futuristically fated because his partner might have noticed his planning a murder. Maybe noticed his behavior and purchases. 😜 Questions like yours actually don’t deserve an answer. Always jumping to illogical conclusions. Without any kind of idea that it may be a question regarding the crime. 😰🥺 Two people murdered there. I wondered if anyone close to him could have called the Police or warned the parents. Everyone is not thinking about Private lives of individuals the way you implied. Try not to be so quick to assume motives. I really feel bad that his parents ended up murdered,dismembered and the Mother’s head boiled on the stove in a big pot.
There are real similarities with this crime and the Chandler Handerson case. Not just the horrific murder and dismemberment of parents. But the motive. Neither of them wanting to have to work. And feeling the squeeze coming that being supported by parents was over. This is some evil.
She explained that before, the reason she wears lots of them at the same time was when her hands get sweaty it's hard to put on another pair. So by doing this, she just gonna remove them every other evidence to avoid contamination. 🙂
Oh nice catch! I didn’t catch that!! I believe it’s also standard practice in forensic pathology, autopsies, various medical interventions etc.. You can contaminate one without worrying about contaminating your skin, easy to just change the outside pair, no contamination, no need to wash & dry you skin each time, no sweat. :) I just love that she paid such mindful attention to it In Court. Some of the folks seemed a bit sloppy touching all sorts of evidence then touching their faces/hair/surfaces without seemingly realizing it. And I dont really blame ‘em! You’re in a stressful environment on a timeline being questioned. It could slip your mind & feel weird to take the time to deglove & reglove each time as you would in the lab. The ladies really stood out head & shoulders above how amazing they were, cool, calm, collected, but also 100% dedicated to being safe & maintaining proper procedure. 😊
And OMG it is So annoying trying to take off gloves when sweaty & regloving. Like trying to put a condom on a slug or sea cucumber or bowl of puddle. Lol It feels So gross & weirdly stressful. Lol
I’m a Registered Nurse...I totally get what she’s saying about trying to re-glove when you have sweaty hands. It’s extremely difficult to do so properly. When having to clean especially soiled things in the hospital, it’s totally normal to double glove in order to protect yourself and the patient and it also saves time.
I have been watching trials for 20+ years this has got to be the most gruesome double murder I’ve ever seen. The only other ones involved children but it wasn’t like this still bad but not like this
Imagine going thru life knowing you never had to work a day in your life because your parents PAID for everything.... Oh and the fact you murdered and butchered them because you couldn't handle the thought of not being taken care of like a spoiled, entitled monster.
The prisons of the world are full of people who thought they could get away with it. In the end I’d say that 98% of criminals are lazy and stupid and it’s only due to good luck and/or police incompetence when they can get away with it.
sondrajean955 He wants the sensation of it all. Even though he totally didn’t complete his itinerary, he wants to see it all played out since he got caught! What a waste of a life! I feel so awful for his folks and family!
What deal? He knew he would get life or the death penalty so he pleaded not guilty. That way he got the Trial & enjoyment watching his family see all the horrific details.
anyone else completely repulsed by how he sits there head tilted up with a look of righteous indignation? the smiling?? he is an abomination.. may he receive all he deserves and more for the rest of his vile life in prison..
I agree! I hate the looks and sounds of people chewing gum. If I was a judge there would be a trash can at the doors of my court saying SPIT OUT GUM HERE OR NO ENTRY!
This is my family, Mike (Joel Sr.) & Lisa Guy, they were truly amazing people, my Uncle and Aunt. My dad and Mike were brothers, unfortunately my dad passed away in February 2001 from a terminal illness. This has really taken a toll on my family, so tragic and shocking. Joel Michael Jr doesn't deserve his father's name, he deserves to be in prison for the rest of his life!!!
Sorry for such a tragic loss. Does anyone in the family still support him after what he did?
The daughters seem like wonderful people.....so sad.....
My heart goes out to you and your family. May God bless you all!
@@alleyway2 No, absolutely no one helps him nor do they speak to him, not on my side of the family, which is Joel Michael Sr (Mike) or Lisa's. Everyone has completely disowned him! As we should. Thanks for asking about my family.
@@alwaysdusty yes they are, they're truly heartbroken, as expected. Thank you for asking about my family.
To think the items he purchased to kill his parents were payed for with their money since he didn’t work a day in his life... this is so horribly sad
And, unless he has 3 public defenders, his parents are also paying for lawyers to defend him.
His mother should have retired but she kept working JUST to support her demanding son. She was an enabler and unfortunately he took it to the most evil and wicked extreme
Thanks for all the kind words about Detective Campbell, shes my wife and I love hearing nice words about her :).
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She’s lovely. She seems great at what she does. I love her long hair. I hope y’all stay safe.
Please send her regards here from Denmark. 🙂
She is amazing and an inspiration, thank her for respecting the victims and catching the dad guys, sending love and blessings from Australia
She cheated on ya
I love how this Judge explains things to everyone to make sure everyone in the the courtroom understands what’s going on.
alisa Sewell I agree
I love him he is so personable! Caring and kind! Never seen another judge like him! Usually they are so cold and grouchy!
Agreed. One of the best I've seen. Clear, concise and pleasant.
I absolutely love him! ♥️ My gaydar is tingling but it may be because I don't know anyone from Tennessee or the South, and it's throwing me off? Dunno, he's great though.
They all should! I was on jury duty recently on a very large drug bust and the judge was wonderfully personable, was even open to the jury asking her questions directly if we needed clarification, it was great. Eased any nerves or tension and made it much easier to concentrate on what was going on in the room.
So his mom spends her last hours in Walmart buying food to feed her only son that she supported all his life. She lugged all those bags home on her own and actually had to face at some point the horrifying realisation that her boy was stabbing here to death. I’ve been watching true crime and criminal trials for a long time and this one is a truly horrific crime. The way he treated their bodies all so he didn’t have to get a job?! And now the state will have to use tax dollars to feed and house him until the day his utterly pathetic life ends.
I feel him being forced to work and pay bills and rent would be a bigger nightmare for him than to be in prison where someone else feeds and dresses him unfortunately
He did not think he would get caught.
He's a sick monster, like Chris Watts.
@@jessicaj8564 totally agree.
Yea truly sad, disgusting and brutal
I would need serious help having to sit and look at him. I wonder how his lawyers could even be near him!? He is the creepiest human I've ever seen.
That thing is not a human girl....
@Matthew Brooks ooooooo well said. The fact that he never once smiles is something...and that visor Def adds an extra layer of weirdo to him 🤔
@ Gail Coffey
Wtf you talking about
He’s adorable
I noticed that he and his lawyers didn't engage in small talk at all. Just the case. No laughing or joking. No friendly banter. I would imagine he sickened them as much as he sickened the rest of us.
Should not judge a person by their looks
I could give an award to Officer Campbell for being the most efficient organized witness /expert I have seen in many many trials.
Walmart footage has solved many crimes!
Literally 🙏
A cop friend once told me they have the best video set up of anybody.
I noticed that too!
Absolutely!
So what have We learned? If you are going to murder someone don't shop at wally world.
I just love this Judge, he is so polite and respectful.
It was no judge Judy type judge.. that's for sure!
This is just allowing him to relive and glorify these disgusting murders.... while at the same time traumatizing everyone else 🤮
I was thinking this earlier.
He may have been watching the dramatises Neil Leson in Britain recently who was the same sort of person when found out was blatantly enjoying the notoriety did the same thing with the head in pot etc They are loners Leson was a intelligent man with a string of good jobs once was in the police force The devil’s spirits dwelling in him that is why I believe in Christ Jesus pray for his protection I wish I had not stumbled on this compelling case Sad on every levels
Yes, but it’s an important part of the justice system. The jury needs to see all the evidence to be able to determine his guilt. Even if it’s obvious, this process must take place.
I agree! A true psychopath 🤢
I thought that as well
You know why Joel Guy, Jr. is wearing that clear visor instead of a face mask like everyone else? It is so the jury can see the expressions on his face as the testimony is presented.
He has none...psychopath
He is wearing it because he want the jury to think he is insane
He's actually wearing it for easier identification. They are reviewing video evidence, the clear plastic shield makes it easier for the jury/witnesses to compare the face of the defendant to the face of the subject in the videos and from the witness memories...
@@RealSiViX I laughed when the defense lawyer called him "unidentified" in the walmart video. That is so clearly him.
I was literally wondering that!!
This man totally looks like he's enjoying this. He acts like he's at a city counsel meeting , not his own murder trial
I initially didn't know he was the defendant.... the devil himself.
He even wanted a visor so everyone could see his face
Oh good Lord.... when they pulled the stock pot out I felt sick to my stomach. I cannot even fathom having to hold that thing, let alone what it actually looked like to have a human head inside. Absolutely incomprehensible...
Yeah that was my thoughts to.very sick and twisted physcopath.
I can't get rid of the image of mother's legs severed off. At one time she was in an operating room giving birth to this psycho.
What could he possibly be writting about? Is he taking note of his mistakes, playing hangman.. what? Disturbing for sure.
He needs to be writing “Deadman Walking”
@Kay, I noticed defendant taking notes when the police officer talked about the groceries being left on the foyer floor..So it seems he is taking notes of his mistakes. Who knows why, maybe he thinks he will be let off? How could he be innocent when he wrote a step by step list and left it there for detectives to find? He also wrote down the "diabolical stew" comment the prosecutor made first day of court. Horrific!
Wavy lines like you did when you where 3-4 years old pretending to write something
He is totally enjoying this !! He’s a monster
He sure is!
You’re right! He does seem to be enjoying this. Aweful!!
He gets to relive it all over again
Peter Galila That may explain why he didn’t plead guilty because he did mentioned when he was arrested and brought to the station that he wanted the death penalty.
Who? The monster or the judge?
What a creepy guy. Why do all murder defendants take so many notes. He actually has a pen. They only let Stabby Arias have one of those stumpy half pencils.
Stabby Aries Lol 😂 that’s a good one 👍🏻
Oh my goodness, I lost it when you called her Stabby Aries. That is the perfect name for her.
They take a lot of notes because the rest of their life depends on it. The notes could help their defense attorney make better arguments, which could sway the jury. (Not likely in this case...)
I think they do that because it's a good excuse to look down. Think of when you're embarrassed or don't want your face to tell any emotions...you look down, since you know you're being watched. They think that if their heads are down, you can't tell their emotions towards what's being discussed, since you can't see their face. Thats what makes me always think/know they are guilty. If they were innocent, they wouldn't need to hide their faces so much
They're pretending because they're cowards that can't hold their heads up and look authority in the face.
Those poor siblings clearly loved both their step mother and their father too. He murdered both then sits in front of his siblings with a Holier Than Thou smirk on his piggish little face. Whomever suggested the clear visor over a mask didn’t like him much because it has revealed a LOT about him and how superior he feels to everyone in that room. Makes me want to wipe the smirk right off his piggish little face. I can’t begin to imagine how his siblings feel!
"Piggish little face" - IMMEDIATELY hit the Like button 👍 🤣
Hate the way he has it positioned
That’s exactly why they have him wearing it instead of a mask that would help conceal his smirks. They knew he was a narcissist who really thought he was the smartest person in that room. That is how narcissistic personality’s think. No matter how stupid they are in reality they think they are just geniuses. Like this guys notebook detailing his actions. The fact that he wrote all that down proves how completely stupid he really is.
He’s literally holding in smiles this entire trial.
Liv Penner if you haven’t watched the opening statements then worth the watch. As prosecutor was detailing the injuries he had to stop himself from laughing. He’s a monster 😡
Nicola Mcrae I totally agree!! I have seen it, unbelievable man
Yeah he's not all there..
He sure is enjoying this, evil POS!!
No fear what so ever , maybe like felted sitting in class in college.
Totally feel for the 3 daughters and the rest of the family having to sit through this. Even though she was their step mum they loved her and seemed like such a happy loving family ❤️
And sitting so close to the monster
What a nice family, truly. How did this guy turn out like this?
God bless this family❤️❤️ this man is a evil monster and has no remorse! How they ever forget such a horrific tragic event is beyond me. I pray for their daughters and all family 🙏🏽🙏🏽
Nicola Mcrae where does it say she was the step mum?
@@KrissyRoseAnimallover she was the daughters step mum, not Joel's. They saw her as mum however.
And I thought my family thanksgivings were rough...
LoL
😂😂😂👍🇨🇦✌
Such a potent, and permeating thought. Way to make light.👌
🤭we needed that
"Guess who's not coming to dinner"
The sights were awful. The smell in this house must have been double horrendous. 😱
I sincerely hope the jury has received complimentary counseling for what they had to witness being part of this trial.
Cross examination: I’m going to ask you the brand of the sink because I have nothing else to say.
It always baffles me when the defense asks the most random questions during cross. It’s like they feel they HAVE to ask something... certain testimony just doesn’t have a follow up.
I would just say no questions your honor....
@@karennotAkaren1 They have to do something to earn their money lol
I posted this before but I don't see it. Officer Campbell is a credit to Knox County and her profession. She was clear, pleasant and organized in every way. I can't imagine dealing with such a grisly topic but she didn't seem phased or hardened, either one. Just the facts, presented in the clearest way possible.
The officer is very dedicated to her work, lovely clear voice
Isn't she just so professional and confident? Also pleasant and polite. I so agree with you. Lovely officer.
Agree. Thank his there are people like her that can handle this type of horror show.
Did it make you feel better to post this twice? Maybe you should call KPD, and let the officer know how proud you are of her. Because she’s probably the only person that cares about your opinion on her
@@mikebb1000 Why be so cranky??
Obviously no remorse, I didn't expect any... But seeing his mom, alive coming out of Walmart on video was no big deal to him.... No emotion what so ever. I would have a hard time sitting there even in the same room with him if he were my brother and murdered my parents. I try not to hate people ... But this guy .. 😣😡
@txcracker535 yep i just couldn't sit there watching him. These people are way better than me. Unfortunately I'd be in jail on assault charges.
He can't be punished enough for this, in this life and the afterlife.
Hats off to the forensic tech. What a true professional she is. I happen to know that’s a difficult job at times and this must have truly been one.
This Officer Campbell is so professional.
Oh Yes ! I was thinking the same. She knows what she is talking about. And she is pretty too.
She's cute lol but yes very professional
This was such a horrific scene to walk in on, collect evidence, and document evidence I've ever seen. And I've been watching trials since 1992.
@nameless face obviously you have no notion of the horror and confronting sights and situations that law enforcement, emergency responders and technicians have to deal with regularly. I pray you never have to deal with anything remotely like the ones those brave public servants do on behalf of law and order and on behalf of us the general public.
I think that heat probably made it worse to have it be over 90 plus all those chemicals, breathing must have been difficult
@@yvonnemurray4101 many take life for granted. Thank you for understanding my point. I guess we're supposed to accept this type of psychopath who soaks his Father and Mother's bodies in chemicals and decapitates his Mother as " normal" according to @nameless face. ( no shock here why the "nameless face" name was chosen.)
With the heat turned to 90!Was he trying to blow the furnace?
@@yvonnemurray4101 well its not like they walk in on scenes with body parts scattered throughout a home everyday
There are relatives of murder victims in the courtroom and people are laughing? That’s so freaking gross and disrespectful.
I kind of felt the same way. Out of respect for the murder victims I’m just not sure if laughing and joking during a murder trial is a great idea ?
Hes now found someone else to take care of him for the rest of his life!
True. Maybe why he did it.
Joel had a face only a mother could love... I'm not sure how but she loved him.
the defendant has a smirk in his face?!?! Serious?!?!
I'm still struggling to understand why he specifically boiled her head when she was the one supporting him. I know she probably was the one who initially told him he is cut off, but like.. that's a ton of energy and time spent on decapitating someone who clearly loved him, and it wasn't even included in his murder book
Same, but then again we are trying to undestand a crazy person's rationale
I think his mom was the only one he had any sort of attachment to. I think he was trying to make a sick trophy.
If he wanted to kill them, why didn’t he just shoot them and dump them in a forrest or somthing else. The way he treated the bodyes confirms that he in some way hated them. And wanted to treat them as respectless as possible. In a kind of revenge ? He is an awfull awfull creature. He should not even be allowed to be in the court-room. He is enjoying himself too much.
@@glizzard1894 that's what I said
He couldn’t fit it in the buckets.
My sympathy goes out to the surviving family members. Such a sad and horrible thing to have to live with.
I would hate to be in court and have to sit in that chair where that murderous guy is sitting. They should destroy that chair when this is all over. Horror. Burn the chair.
That and wonder if they will knock down the house ?
Burn and destroy everything that monster touched
@@sharonbentley8612 bet that realtor won't show that house for a while
Xixx Xxix it had been sold! Hope the new people can get out of it!
Connie P. He touched the floor of the courtroom. Looks like they have to build a new courtroom. He also was in prison until his trial so looks like a new prison to
Makes me laugh when they write stuff down. Probably playing hangman.
I said playing tic tac toe but be careful if you win he might cut off one or all of your toes
Lol first time I saw him do that was during prosecutors opening statement. Figured he was making yet another to do list of possible book title names.
@@mandymoore5774 yeah. I think he may have written down the words "diabolical stew". That's how the prosecutor described the woman's head in the pot. And looked like he was smiling after she said it.
They try to look important while being convicted 😂
Charlotte Morrow - he was trying not to laugh.
When she put the keys and wallet back into the paper bag, I started to tear up. I dont know why. Just such personal items that now have no owner/s. :(
Yes. I thought how sad it would be for the children to watch their parents’ belongings.... my own mother just passed. I dread going through her things with my four siblings. I don’t want her to really be gone:(. Her things, her smell. Etc. it makes me cry to even think about it
@@zoiefinnian3540 hope you're ok
Ditto. So final, no owner!
Wow, the lead prosecutor, Leslie Nassios - amazing job! Enjoy your retirement after years of service and not sure if this was your last major trial but if so- what a finale and testament to your expertise. Well done.
What got me was the crime scene video when it shows the "picture" room. So much happiness and love used fill that house.
Kudos to everybody sitting in that courtroom with him that they didn't go over and bash his head in
I’m disappointed in them. All of them
After seeing the walk through yesterday, my thought was - Jesus suffering Christ...he's done. It was horrific!
I feel like I’ve seen this judge before. I really like how he tries to keep the jury informed about the process.
This is one of the most horrific cases I’ve ever seen. Terrible that his parents knew in their last moments that it was their son killing them. 😔
I think one of the things that disgusts me so much is the fact that it probably was his parents money buying the supplies Joel used to complete the murder and attempted clean up.
Wouldn't be a trial in America without Walmart being involved!!
He wrote a letter to the Tennessee Department of Corrections stating that he was having fantasy about gouging out his cell mates eyes. He said that since there’s a no-sharps restriction he has to use his fingers but that won’t deter him. He then states that he doesn’t logically believe that his cell mate deserves to be blind and asks them to stop him from acting on these fantasies, and says “I shouldn’t be allowed around another person while they’re unconscious”. He said that he doesn’t want more criminal charges brought against him or end up with a disciplinary infraction. I just found this interesting information and thought I would share. This is another attempt to once again isolate himself. His first attempt was trying to get the death penalty, because you’re in a solitary cell on death row. When that didn’t work, he wrote this letter in hopes they’ll takes his letter seriously and move him to solitary confinement.
Apparently he tried to murder his cell mate
why does he want to be isolated so bad?...
@@xxsamuroxx456 Maybe he has become a misanthrope. Happy Easter! 🌞👍
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Maybe he is trying to convince the system he is insane... Just a thought.
First heard of this case on That Chapter's channel. I honestly don't think I've ever been more disturbed about a murder case...
Oh im glad you enjoy That Chapter! Mike is a good one for sure. I had begged him so many times to cover this case and im glad he did.
In this old video
I clicked on this not knowing and at the time I was in shock I just kept watching. Now i totally regret it. Now I can't get it out of my mind. If anyone else is seriously bothered which I'm sure everyone is...what I'm saying is give a thumbs up I will pray for your mind to somehow forget too. Pray for me as well thanks
What you just said made me tear up. This is horrific!!!! 😭😭
I left the headphones in to have an extra little snooze this morning. I woke up to hear an officer describing sweeping a house. Was suddenly wide awake when I heard the voice saying "there was a hand on the floor" and realised it was just a hand with nothing attached...
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PS thank you for thinking of us. It's hard listening, isn't it?
Wish someone would make him wear that visor properly, he's wearing it like he thinks its a baseball cap... its not protecting anyone !
A visor is pointless full stop unless you are close proximity to someone coughing/spitting/. If it's floating around the air (which would be the perceived risk if you're not in close proximity to someone) then an open ended face shield is doing absolutely nothing. I'm never sure why people wear them unless working in a hospital in close direct contact with people.
@@TheMrsnikkisixx they're really about keeping droplets out of your eyes and off your face.
He should wear a mask under the shield to be totally safe.but he is just a complete idiot anyway....
Maureen Hastings this is what I was going to say
Amen!
JUDGE IS surprisingly upbeat giving the facts of the case...
He really is!
I think as sad as the case is, for them getting these crazy tragic ones is like wowww exciting in a way if that makes sense and hes probably like the fools going to prison forever
High praise for officer Campbell. You did an excellent job ma'am, sure you will make it far in your career. God bless you
This is why u dont spoil your kids and/or allow them to "run" the house because when they are in their 30's & you're ready to say NO to handouts ,etc ,they can't handle it & may possibly kill you!! I guess it depends on what kind of monster you been creating/enabling....
Very true. Just like Casey Anthony... spoiled rotten narcissistic lying monster.
Coddling or neglect both can cause narcissistic tendencies...
This next generation of kids on a whole are being brought up entitled… I foresee these crimes escalating in years to come.
I like how the prosecution doesn’t belabor this process… they let the testimony flow and don’t bore everyone. Glad justice was served!
This dude makes my ex look completely sane
She would have had to OUT-DO him by chopping you up, stealing your wallet, buying a Meat-Grinder and turning you into SAUSAGE, and some. Lol
Does anyone else wish they knew what was going through Jr's mind? I need to be able to understand people like him. We are living with more like him than most people realize. They are in high positions in business and government and we allow them to make decisions for us.
Scary John,real scary,but at least we are aware, and we won't go quietly into the night.
Yes,it can happen to YOU.
Yes! I wonder what he was writing on his notepad
THIS! This statement is precisely why I’m studying criminal psychology to get into the minds of people like this.
He’s clearly a sociopath.
He's not a psychopath, he's a freeloader. People like him don't kill for lust but for greed. he was probably just thinking that he's not going to get any money after all
He looks around like he's amazed. Like he's never seen a room like this. Weird.
Wow there must have been a huge huge struggle in that workout room. The father really fought back.
What is the role of the Defense in this case, anyway? Someone drew the friggin short straw here, man.
It’d be pointless to try to prove anything at this point unless it’s claiming insanity or just aiming for a lighter sentence. Trying to prove any kind of innocence would be like trying to climb Mount Everest barefoot.
I spent most of this video wanting to yank the defendant’s visor down into the correct position. ARGH!
I think he had it that way on purpose.
@@joannaflowers5563 possibly but it was doing neither him nor anyone else any good like that. He may as well have taken it off.
It's giving me anxiety🤢
Its totally unfathomable that he would do this simply because his allowance was being cut. Most people would think its time to get a job, but not Jnr, he was still thinking about how he could get even more money.
She is an excellent detective. Very professional. She is also a wonderful human being.
It's incredible how they leave this dude sitting there in elegant suit without handcuffs.
They do that so they don’t bias the jury. The prosecution does not want a retrial.
And there is a cop right behind him
I’m super confused as to why he even bothered to plead not guilty. There’s no way he’s getting away with this, no shred of reasonable doubt, he’s on 2 surveillance cameras purchasing the exact items found at the crime scene!! Coincidence?! No way!
I wonder what was going through his mind after he slaughtered them...after the adrenaline and rage was gone and the “deed” was done. Did he even have a moment of remorse? Makes me sick.
Total narcissist. He’s loving the attention 😡😡
We all thought OJ simpson was quilty too
I think he both: wanted the attention AND get to re-live it all. Plus knowing he would get to see all his sisters suffer thru it , as well as photos/videos his disgusting, messy macabre handy-work. He definitely wasn’t done so he needed a part 2.
And what about his notepad of killing and clean up instructions to himself.
I think hes just arrogant & sincerely thought-nay Presumed-he could get away with it. And with the mess he made!! Boy, you bad at this. It really shows his grandiose nature. He made Such a mess & left his murder book With the bodies. Big dummy.
Make the defendant wear a mask. Wipe that smirk and save us having to see his evil face.
Diana Gable could still see a smirk by they eyes
I'm glad we could all see clearly the lack of remorse leaving no room for doubt that it is indeed a monster seated before the jury. In my opinion death is too good for this monster. Thoughts and deepest sympathy are with the family and friends of the victims.
No the killer should not wear a mask so the judge can see his reactions and lack of remorse.
@Brooklyn Malone yes great point I agree.
@@christopherTheCarpenterOf course the Judge noticed his behaviour. But not much they can do about that unless he started yelling or caused a scene.
I know someone that went to LSU with him and had a class with him. They said he was one weird duck. 🦆
He looks to fit their thoughts.
@Eventual Visitor well pointed
So he clearly had mental issues way back...and I don’t know if his parents did anything about it for 20 odd years but in the end wanted a mentally unstable child to move out at once without any assistance...he may be an adult but he must’ve needed help, otherwise not only he might hurt himself, but he might end up hurting or killing other people instead of the parents. Not sympathizing with parent-killing demons but trying to clear up part of the mystery in terms of motivation.
A bit quacky im sure
@@fanofrpgalore1546 Mental health issues very rarely result in violence. People deal with vast trauma, awful childhoods, chronic depression, anxiety and so on, and it doesn't make them violent. This guy is a psychopath, blaming the victims is not helpful.
The only other case I’ve been this shocked by was the Chris Watts case. It’s a whole other level of evil to purposefully hurt and *kill* your FAMILY. I hope this “man” never has a day of peace.
He wants to act crazy . Lock him up in a dark cell all alone for the rest of his life never to be let out of the room. Let him go crazy in there .
I think he's already crazy! 😆
yeah permanent isolation cell, too bad they have human rights.
No, he was a bit of a recluse and socially awkward. He wants a cell alone and threatened to blind a cellmate if not in own cell
Thankyou to all the workers in this GodAwful case
Our Police Force are truly remarkable. We forget how touch their jobs must be dealing with the worst side of human life.
What is he writing? He picks up his pen every now and then, and starts writing. After what he did, ya' give him a pointy object? Nawwŵ! He gets a dull crayon! Supervised!
He should be in a prison uniform as well. Not dignified in a suit.
I'm pretty sure he is writing remarks for his defense team to use (because he believes he is so smart).. For example, in the first part when the cop who entered the residence was on the stand, the cop made a slight contradiction in his statement... Then immediately Joel started writing.. Then when the defense had a chance to ask questions.. That was the first question they asked.. I've also watched the Jodie Arias case trials, and she (who also believed she was smart) used to do the same , she would write notes and pass them to her lawyer.
He’s probably writing his memoir 😟
Wrting a book titled " LIFE OF A STUPID, UNGREATFUL SON"
He picks on his nose a lot. He is so creepy with those wide buggy eyes he makes. Sick-O
Susan Baker stupid man. Nor a lot between those ears but a horrible man.
Wow. He is so detached from all this. He seems to not care that this is about his murdered parents Not a tear, no remorse or shock for what he has done. Scary! Total respect for awesome lady police officer. She's amazing!
Joel's like "Please can we get this over with", "I have video games to play".
4:34 he looks directly into the camera... nothing short of chilling.
Born without a conscience.....I can’t begin to imagine.....
I think this is really informative as well to how courts are really held since tv shows only show so much. I also love this judge he is a fantastic judge
Doesn't it defeat its purpose when this joe guy wears his face shield as a visor?!?
And everyone else wearing masks over their mouths but not their nose
aleshia mccaw shut up
nelliebpink13 why did you tell her to shut up? Just curious....
@@nelliebpink13 You must be everyone else...?
😂😂
Could you imagine having to be the DEFENSE LAWYER in this case?!! I mean, it's one thing to have to look at all the crime scene photos, but to have to try to convince anyone of this sick bastards innocence?!!
And to have to sit beside him as he smirks
I would quit 🤷🏽♀️ like your honor..I honestly have nothing to say. I’m gonna take this loss 😂
no you dont need to prove his innocence, you just need to prove that he doesnt deserve tbe death penalty
I hope defense lawyer did his job in the most lazy way possible. Due what the law required but not go out of his way to help this monster.
Were they were court appointed ? He can’t afford a defense lawyer and I know Mark Stephens the sorta handsome one - was once the public defender for Knox County.
He’s such an educational and informative judge.
Why didn't Cambell get to answer questions about the head, it being there I mean. And how it was discovered. The medical examiner will talk about it but she didn't find it.
As far as Social Life,I doubt he has ever had a girlfriend or anyone.
futuristically fated because his partner might have noticed his planning a murder.
Maybe noticed his behavior and purchases.
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Questions like yours actually don’t deserve an answer.
Always jumping to illogical conclusions.
Without any kind of idea that it may be a question regarding the crime.
😰🥺
Two people murdered there.
I wondered if anyone close to him could have called the Police or warned the parents.
Everyone is not thinking about Private lives of individuals the way you implied.
Try not to be so quick to assume motives.
I really feel bad that his parents ended up murdered,dismembered and the Mother’s head boiled on the stove in a big pot.
The testimony & call from his “best friend “ and roommate suggests to me something more may have been going on between them but who knows
He was a social outcast and a loser
@@chamo8234 yessssss
i’m pretty sure his roommate was his romantic partner of some sorts
There are real similarities with this crime and the Chandler Handerson case. Not just the horrific murder and dismemberment of parents. But the motive. Neither of them wanting to have to work. And feeling the squeeze coming that being supported by parents was over. This is some evil.
GOD will have the final judge in this case and will bring justice where it's do.
Double glovin’ mama!
Its gotta be so weird touching all of that stuff knowing what was on it, esp that pot & those bins!
She explained that before, the reason she wears lots of them at the same time was when her hands get sweaty it's hard to put on another pair. So by doing this, she just gonna remove them every other evidence to avoid contamination. 🙂
Though you're right about it, it's weird and going through all of those stuff again is hard.. But I love her, so calm and organized 😊
Oh nice catch! I didn’t catch that!! I believe it’s also standard practice in forensic pathology, autopsies, various medical interventions etc.. You can contaminate one without worrying about contaminating your skin, easy to just change the outside pair, no contamination, no need to wash & dry you skin each time, no sweat. :)
I just love that she paid such mindful attention to it In Court. Some of the folks seemed a bit sloppy touching all sorts of evidence then touching their faces/hair/surfaces without seemingly realizing it. And I dont really blame ‘em! You’re in a stressful environment on a timeline being questioned. It could slip your mind & feel weird to take the time to deglove & reglove each time as you would in the lab.
The ladies really stood out head & shoulders above how amazing they were, cool, calm, collected, but also 100% dedicated to being safe & maintaining proper procedure. 😊
And OMG it is So annoying trying to take off gloves when sweaty & regloving. Like trying to put a condom on a slug or sea cucumber or bowl of puddle. Lol It feels So gross & weirdly stressful. Lol
I’m a Registered Nurse...I totally get what she’s saying about trying to re-glove when you have sweaty hands. It’s extremely difficult to do so properly. When having to clean especially soiled things in the hospital, it’s totally normal to double glove in order to protect yourself and the patient and it also saves time.
This is what happens when you spoil your child and ignore the signs
As a spoiled child I must say yes.
There are millions of spoiled children, but they don’t make stew of their own mother’s head! Psychopath!
b Consilio lol right?! I was wondering when someone would comment this....and I was NOT disappointed.
Only a psychopath could do what he did and they are a very small percent of the population.
Spoiled kids are about 80%!
'GREEDNESS'!!!!.........IS THE ALL MIGHTY WORD.....FOR THIS......CHARTOR!!!!
I have been watching trials for 20+ years this has got to be the most gruesome double murder I’ve ever seen. The only other ones involved children but it wasn’t like this still bad but not like this
Ditto.
Jodi Arias was pretty gruesome.
@@jsterling6805 not even close to this
He’s like a robot at the Walmart, scanning those items. 😳😳😳
He is a insult to LSU. CAN YOU IMAGINE THE POT ON THE STOVE, SOMEONE THINKING ITS FOOD? POOR PEOPLE
Imagine going thru life knowing you never had to work a day in your life because your parents PAID for everything....
Oh and the fact you murdered and butchered them because you couldn't handle the thought of not being taken care of like a spoiled, entitled monster.
Why was he cooking his mums head? I thought he was using acid on the remains😢
txcracker535 That makes sense! Thanks!
It amazes me that he actually thought he could get away with it.
The prisons of the world are full of people who thought they could get away with it. In the end I’d say that 98% of criminals are lazy and stupid and it’s only due to good luck and/or police incompetence when they can get away with it.
WHY are they even bothering with a trial? He should have struck a deal w/ the DA. OMG, THE SOUP POT!!
sondrajean955 He wants the sensation of it all. Even though he totally didn’t complete his itinerary, he wants to see it all played out since he got caught! What a waste of a life! I feel so awful for his folks and family!
What deal? He knew he would get life or the death penalty so he pleaded not guilty. That way he got the Trial & enjoyment watching his family see all the horrific details.
The love of money is the root of all evil
He wasn’t in love with money, he was in love with the idea of not having to work for it.
Absolutely
He was a student!? Hes 32 & this “student” had his mother & father still paying his bills?
He was 28 at the time. But your point still stands. His parents seemed to really love and care for him. So sad.
Just learned of all this. Praying the family is doing better. 🙏🌹🦋
Good to know how much Walmart can see of us when we shop
anyone else completely repulsed by how he sits there head tilted up with a look of righteous indignation? the smiling?? he is an abomination.. may he receive all he deserves and more for the rest of his vile life in prison..
He acts like he's just watching a regular TV show..what a monster!
This isn’t Kelly Cramer from Missouri is it??? Yes he is just super casual and non remorseful
He kepts looking wide eyes open like searching for flies.
🤣
He's a toad 😂😂
🤣🤣🤣
I see him laughing at 46:00 He is having fun during this whole thing. sick
He laughed when someone said diabolical stew
His cell mate "your in for what now?"
wow, how disrespectful for a witness to be chewing gum while on the witness stand or in a courtroom at all.
I agree! I hate the looks and sounds of people chewing gum. If I was a judge there would be a trash can at the doors of my court saying SPIT OUT GUM HERE OR NO ENTRY!
Maybe it helped calm their nerves give em a break this was a traumatizing case.
Could be a heavy smoker. Need the gum to get through.
His eyes are really bothering me
😂😂