People don't understand Eren.
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Eren never changed, but his smile sure does vanished
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You had me at your grammar 😭😭😭
Your making me depressed again stop it
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Eren is the only mc who took back his spotlight from the side characters
SO TRUE
Yes eren is just like us , realising it is my story
He really had the most fabricated Character development , he understood his enemies who were the titans , he changed a view towards them as Titans were the ones who destroyed his home and ate his mom as well , he showed sympathy to his blood thirty enemy in the final ep of S3 showing mercy and understanding the reality that those titans were converted without their own will and were one of their kind ( eldians ) since the start they have been blood thirsty to the titans and instead of staying blinded by his vengeance for titans and to avenge his mom he shifted his view and understood and accepted the titans had done nothing wrong and it always have been these people . Thats a soo much peak of a character development shifting the view of the character and developing the character without changing of his primary goals . Really a Goat 🐐
I would add Jinx from Arcane in this conversation as well
@@harshmalhari8519 what did she do again?
“To surpass monsters, you must be willing to abandon your humanity” - Armin Arlert
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tatakae...
when did armin say this?
@@ChampionZeme in season one bro didn't you see the anime
He said it to eren so he could fight Annie
Ironic since he bacame a monster and abounded humanity, just not his, but the worlds
@@jellyfishi_
I think it kind of depends on how they mean it. Though if we take DIO from Jojo's Bizarre Adventure who also "rejected his humanity" as an example, then yah, DIO was clearly being insane and nihilistic.
King of the walls:If you attack I will start rumbling
Marley:Attacks anyway
Eren:Starts rumbling
Marley:👁👄👁
This comment is really underrated bro.
Yep, that's actually Marley's fault, they with their warmongering with other countries to dominate the world and greed to acquire fuel gas ( oil of attack on titan world ) under paradise started the expedition with Rainer, Annie, Bertelot which resulted in the destruction of walls. People of paradise were clueless and were living peacefully ignorant of outside world , and would have continued to live. This remind me of North Korea lol. Walls got destroyed, eren's mom died which started the cycle. Marley reignited the great titan war which had been ended for good by king Reiss
This is the same thing that is happening right now. Hamas , IDF.
Paradis island is like Israel they're being oppressed for 2000 years
LITERALLY!
For me it always comes back to the moment he kissed Historia’s hand. In that moment he truly sees EVERYTHING. His face says it all. That’s the moment he realizes just how far he truly has to go to save the people he loves. In S4 he’s so dark and cold-blooded not because he’s evil, but because the weight of what he HAS to do - and doesn’t WANT to do - is unbearable.
And technically that's how it is in real life as well. People change only on the outside, the core stays the same. The more people learn, the more they are forced to behave differently than they normally would.
@@edgelord121 well we still change over time especially in puberty but after as well. the core of a human is something that doesn't change that easily unless you look at a span of actual decades
He's also cold because after Sasha died he realized he is slave to fate, he lost all of his freedom at the cost of saving the ones he loves
@@miguelzurita3216 he will break fate in the anime. Freedom will win, not fate this time
@@hovigkhatchikian2602 I would like that for Eren, but him being a slave to fate is tragic, but since it will be different it would be nice to see
AOT taught me "You are always a villian in someone's story , no matter which side you choose". This is why AOT is my Favourite Anime 🔥
Aot în a nutshell. We root for eldia, because everyone else îs a generic cliche bad guy who wants to rule the world. Wow such a complex world
oh no, not eren fans giving skull emojis. Please, even I can't contain that much edginess @KaiserReinhard
and if I am wrong , how is it that eren fans are only like "KIULL THEM ALLL EREN, MY EDGY KING, KILL THE BAD GUYS!, SCREW THE CRINGEVENGERS!". How is it that everyone defends eren against generic bad guys?@KaiserReinhard
@@mihaimercenarul7467how are they generic? Their ancestors feared the eldians and passed down hatred to the point that eldians became the subjects of the hate for all the past eldians which is pretty realistic and I have never seen anyone say the cringevengers stuff
@@mihaimercenarul7467 a literal skull emoji made u this mad 😂 u clearly have some internal struggling that needs overcoming
His ambitions remained the same. But HE did change. He became confident, cold and calculated. Younger Eren kept getting frustrated over not being able to save his friends and comrades, despite his abilities. He became more sure of how to do what he needs to do, later on.
This is kinda how i seen it too. He definitely changed when he screwed over mikasa and armin just to achieve that and after he had the convo with beast titan. Before when he didnt know the identity of him, he put them first
@@mibbzx1493 when aot fans actually think eren started the rumbling to save his friends 😂
@@mithvibes4727He did, look at Grisha and Kruger Conversation. To Save Armin And Mikasa.
This is the point I see so many people missing. Everyone is so focused on who's bad and who's good, but they don't see the overall message. You nailed the part where it's a story about the fragility of life, it really is. However it is dictated by the worst of humanities qualities, hatred, fear, war. They think this will lead to peace and freedom, but everyone caught up in this bloody mess always realizes that no one is in the wrong yet can't change anything about it. The best realization of this is Bertholdt in the second part of season three during his final transformation, we hear his inner monologue. He gauges all his life experiences thus far. From being a warrior candidate, and wanting to be a hero, and how his brainwashing as an "honorary Marleyan" caused him to also crack in season 2. He accepts the gravity and reality of the situation he is in, he can't escape his mission he can't change courses. The world has made him into a pawn in a position he has to fulfill because he's already in place. The bittersweet last lines of his contradicting everything he's ever believed in his morals and ideals melted into the strong determination to do the task at hand all because of the cruel world he is in. We see that line repeated a great amount in the show too, "cruel world" and almost every major Charater has some sort of embrace of this line, accepting, denouncing, and relishing the tragic yet strongest words in the story. The reality is that everyone's biggest fight isn't with the Titans but within themselves. Drowned in hatred and lies, yet there is nothing they feel they can do about it, at least successfully or with any meaning at all. This is where our mc Eren fits in the world. Someone who's is passionate, bold, and relentless in the pursuit of his ideals. The attack titan, despite what may lie ahead of it, will always chase freedom. I wouldn't say that Eren hasn't changed, but really just solidified as just described. Through all the pain and sorrow, he is the only one willing to do what everyone realizes is right, even if it's in the worst inhumane way possible. He shoulders the weight of humanities hatred, woes, and sorrows. Became the devil not because he wanted to but because he had to. The world unbeknownst asked for it and received it. Which I think is a nice parallel to Erwin in my opinion. If you go back and watch the show in it's entirety again from even the Opening and ending songs for each season you get a grasp of the feeling of the shows world and characters. Watch it with an open mind and absorb and put yourself in every characters shoes no matter how small or insignificant, you will find deep meaning in everyone's life in that show and empathy for the way everything turns out. And sure getting philosophical may not sound exciting, but it really makes you not just understand the show but feel it, as if you're living in it yourself. Anyway, that's my rant 😅
I plan to do just that: rewatch aot and take a much deeper look at the characters as to how they are presented to us. I rlly want to see the bigger picture of aot and you really said it well
This man’s did it. He factually and accurately described in length what makes AOT so great and properly explained erens character perfectly. Nice job 👍 and well said
At this point they should just have a neutral party that acts as divine intervention and bullies people to peace.
Sometimes is an an endless loop of reactions and responses to prior responses of the other side, and they only way you can stop this loop is by stopping both sides at once, like a short circuit.
God, I love “Injustice” storyline. It made so much sense.
I agree I’m actually a philosophy major and this is how we think to put one in one’s shoes and understand. Being able to see the multiple view points rather than a single objective view point the questions like is eren evil are questions that lead to what is evil and what does it mean the reasons to drive a sane person to do an act considered an evil. What is the inherent nature of humans. What is power and what does it do to people what is the proper use of it. Things like these are questions and they leave you with no answers
I disliked Eren from the start. He was selfish, abrasive and always putting his friends at risk because he was single-mindedly in pursuit of what he thought was right. He had no respect for human life or the suffering of others, only his own warped concept of right and wrong.
Eren is one of the most realistic characters in any anime series....Even I would kill my enemy to save my loved ones....
Most people nowadays have a sugarcoated view of reality. The modern society has shaped up to be a very comfortable one. They forget the barbaric nature of humans because they have never been forced into any such dire situation where their shiny new moral compass would be put to test.
@@edgelord121 There's about 7 100 languages in the world and this man decided to speak fax👏
Yea you’d also murder children too right?
@@edgelord121 It's why I miss Isayama's message. I get what he's saying but the reality is, you cant blame Eren for choosing to fight back, him and his people were confined to island and were basically left there to die. If Eren didnt take action his people people would be wiped out, I sympathize with Eren, and refuse to see him as a antagonist because he has no choice but to start the rumbling, his country was being invaded again. Maybe if the rest of the world wasn't so Ignorant and just moved on, then the world would be a better place. Eren is on no high horse like Gabi(which is why I hate her) or the other characters fighting to save the world, or end the cycle of hate
Eren is just disappointed to see that Humans are living outside the wall...He wanted only the paradise people to be the last of humanity..
I was always an Eren fan even when people loved Levi more, I always loved Eren's character and his will in pursuit of freedom
Levi fans are ones who spread hate for Eren after S4
Same
He has no freedom
does he not, cause if i recall death is another freedom@@Angel32134
This is the best explanation of the difficulty of this show as well as it's beauty in the complex character of Eren Yeger
People think Eren is evil but they really don’t get it, he’s not the big bad villain that you see in other stories, he’s not even like madara or Obito who are both anti-villains trying to do a what they think is a good thing regardless of the immoral actions. Eren is a just a boy trying to protect his friends, family and peoples and it’s a situation pushed to the extreme, the people of outside of eren’s homeland all hate and I mean hate his kind and want them dead no matter what and so Eren pushed into a corner with nothing left to do but either go all out and wipe out those who try to wipe his people out or left his people get massacred for the sake of those who have no connection to him.
Eren isn’t a villain, he’s just a human put in a impossible situation and forced to chose
exactly🙌 ppl act like if Eren didnt do the rumbling the world leave his ppl alone.
Exactly , Eren has to choose either he do nothing aand the world will kill them or he should just wipe them
He could just use the Army to scare them
@@a.r.m.y.chinghu926 that's what king Fritz did
But that didn't work out
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I think, Actually Eren didn't wanted to destroy the world
He was bound with fate
The King Fritz gave kind of a curse that if the outside world try to destroy paradise then it will be destroyed but after the King started feeling guilty of what he had done so he passed his ideologies to his further generations of not attacking
But the curse still Remains
From the 1st episode of season 1
When paradise was getting Invaded by the outside world for the first time, Eren got the nightmare of the whole future of what now have to happen because of the curse
It was decided at that time
Even the purpose of the Attack Titan was this, as Grisha said - to oppose and rebel the Royal Blood's ideologies. To make everything happen, the curse.
After kissing historia's hand, he already saw what was gonna happen and he can't change it
He even asked Sasha's last words to know if future can be changed
But no, it always have to happen what is decided and Eren can't change it
He even tried to push his friends away from him instead of telling them everything
He even lied that he's doing everything by his own will
He even knew that he will be killed by his friends, that's why he said that he hate them and wanted them to hate him
Spoiler
He can even took the power of all the Titan shifters but he didn't
Instead he even fought with Armin's colossal titan
He even hugged that child and crying by saying - "I'm Sorry, I'm Sorry" because he already knew what he have to do ( in chapter 132 )
He even tried to stop Zeke from screaming even though when it would actually help them winning and in s3, he also told Historia to eat him when he thought that his father was wrong, it shows that he can be totally selfless for the righteous acts
And he hide the fact that he can use the power of founding Titan by touching a Titan with Royal Blood, shows that he can't just take lives for his own purposes
In the opening of s3 'My War', the main lyrics were like - "The Angel disguised as Devil"
He even said to Reiner that he used to see outside world as his enemies but learned that they are the same
But he said he have no choice
And by saying that - 'I have to keep moving forward' is for that he have to face the fate
When he talked with everyone ( his friends ), he told them that he's gonna erase their memories of this moment and that their memories will come again when he will die
So that his friends can kill him, and also told Armin to not to tell Mikasa that he cried in the path, "I don't want to die, I don't want to die" because he already knew that he will be killed by Mikasa
If he decided to tell everything to his friends, then people will still see paradise as a Devil, so instead of doing this he took everything over himself saying that it's his own free will and he is doing it because he want to and showed himself as the villian to the World and decided to act solely without telling everyone anything so they all ( paradise ) will not be blamed for this by the outside world
When the people of the outside world saw people with ODM gear on Eren's founding Titan, they start saying like - "Paradise!! They are trying to save us, they are really protecting us", they will be seen as saviours now.
Since the 1st season and beginning of the Series, we always watch the story from Eren's POV and also listen to his inner voice and whatever he is thinking in his mind and why is he doing whatever he was doing
But after that historia's hand kiss scene and from s4 we never heard his thoughts and POVs.
The Boy who always seeked for freedom,
Was Caged by the fate.
Beautifully explained. I always remember what mikasa said “This world is cruel and merciless But its also very beautiful”
❤️💔
Eren didn’t change, the world did.
No bro, he literally changed the world by flattening it.
@@estebandiaz2772lol
Bro, I remember when they made it to the ocean shore, and Eren pointed out towards the distance and said once they defeated everyone beyond the horizon, will they finally be free and I felt that. This man deserves his rumbling.
Eren isn’t evil, it’s just pay back time.
I miss Wren Weager smile back on s1-3,Wren really did change😢
@@Iam_lying_in_this_statement--- I miss your mom on my dick 🥵
@@Iam_lying_in_this_statement---”Wren Weager” bruh what
@@kafukamura the comment has been edited lol, the guy above me said "Wren" so I made a joke about it
@@Iam_lying_in_this_statement--- oh lol 😂
I find it funny how people are so ready to jump on the "Villain Eren" train because he doesn't live up to the typical "Hero" stereotype of being selfless and sacrifices everything for the greater good, throught the series he's shown to be MORE human than most of the stereotypical protagonists in Anime due to the fact that he'll selfishly put what is most dear to him before the rest of the world
It also helps his case that the rest of the world would sooner kill his people aswell regardless of whether or not he takes the stereotypical hero role
There's about 7 100 languages in the world and this man decided to speak fax👏
Eren saved his people, giving up and surrendering to death is easy, fighting is way harder.
@@yournumberonepalnot really, it’s human instinct to try to survive
@@No_Relation_666 You'd be surprised, read the account of Witold Pilecki. It's eye opening.
That's what im saying. Unlike the current "protagonists" we are seeing in AOT, which is debatably the Marley Attack force and the Scouts, Eren isn't on some high horse, he is completely aware what he is doing and why he has to do it. When Season 4 first aired, I thought I was watching the wrong show, but then I was smh saying you aren't fooling me Isayama
No one would sit in a cage made of titan walls and wait until enemies who they never met come and wipe out their people. Eren didn't want his friends to be seen as monsters and be killed so he had to choose and fight against unfairness and the cruel world. I felt so bad for Eren that he was forced to be put in such situation. Hands down one of the best, if not the best, animes.
I would never feel bad for someone murdering innocent children. End does not justify the means. He is no different than Hitler. Both had a purpose and vision of a better world. Both did extremely evil things to achieve it. Only difference between Eren and Hitler was that Eren actually pulled it off, and he's all the worst for it.
I remember when I was still in Elementary I thought this was a badass Titan killing anime. Now I'm in university and wow was I so wrong. This anime was wild and truly a magnificent piece.
Just started rewatching season one… we seriously going to look at the sheer cruelty of Reiner, Bert hold and Annie under the orders of Marley and act like Eren doesn’t have any excuse? 😂 not to mention the entire world literally just declared war (genocide) against the eldians.
Marley poked a sleeping bear, kicked it in the face, murdered it’s family, fucked it’s wife then told him it was an inferior race… then cried when the bear mauled them to death
There's about 7 100 languages in the world and this man decided to speak fax👏
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@@xeesoxee2 Idk of what u speak💀💀
I just started watching season 4, and I was wondering if I was the only one that didn’t have any sympathy for gabi and the others lol.
Hm, I wonder why did the entire world declare war on them? Hm who arranged for all of that to happen? If I recall correctly it was an eldian right? Yea yea, and oh what was his name? EREN YEAGER. I know we love ignoring that fact but Eren is 100% responsible. Also yes we are going to act like Eren doesn’t have an excuse because there is no excuse for massacring innocent people. EVER.
This channel is waaay too underrated
True
It deserve more, much more.
He really had the most layered , complex and well elaborated Character development , with enormous depth and complexity, he understood his enemies who were the titans ( even in s3 last ep he spared a titan and let it live the but the one who still have been in vengeance and saw titans as his first threat was floch because he was unaware of the fact that the enemy is the humanity itself which they had no clue of but Eren did he did knew at that part that his enemies are planning to bomb his country off the face of the planet in that scene who assured to spare the titan was Floch “Hey are you guys sure to let this titan live ?”, Eren didnt cared cause he just got to know the inevitable truth and already set path for him , imagine you dont even have the freedom to choose what to do with your life it is already set and locked for eternity, the way eren touched the handicapped titan and said “ Its our kind forcefully sent to paradise demolishing its dreams just because of some atrocities done by their ancestors which the eldians hates themselves even on being brainwashed by the misinterpreted history given by marley ) , he changed a view towards them(Titans) even tho titans were the ones who destroyed his home and ate his mom as well , he showed sympathy to his blood thirty enemy in the final ep of S3 . Thats a soo much peak of a character development shifting the view of the character and developing the character without changing of his primary goals . Really a Goat 🐐.
Finally The panel “Grounded” booms his character development and also marks an end of him .
Fabricated is probably not the right word
@@edgelord121 it is , Erens character is likely the most fabricated out of all . He has internal conflicts within himself . He is a 3 dimensional character and has made many masks for himself so as to hide his true feelings and keep moving forward . Even though he didn’t wanted to kill the world with the rumbling but used his “Keep moving forward” mask to keep moving even after death .
@@edgelord121 it is , Erens character is likely the most fabricated out of all . He has internal conflicts within himself . He is a 3 dimensional character and has made many masks for himself so as to hide his true feelings and keep moving forward . Even though he didn’t wanted to kill the world with the rumbling but used his “Keep moving forward” mask to keep moving even after death .
@@cirqueyeagerist5641 "Fabricated" sounds like "Artifficial" (bland, shallow, hollow, bad).
It's not fabricated he went from being a naive kid who wanted to kill monsters that hurt him to finding out his entire race was the monsters. To become knowing every possible future and outcome based on any decision he made. He became a slave to what outcome he needed to get. He allowed his mother to die to get the attack titan to save his race of monsters. He changed definitely but he changed based on everything he learned after he learned about the world and about his attack titan.
What I from AOT was; retaliation leads to more retaliation and that becomes a vicious cycle where at some point you don’t even know why you hate people that are different than you.. yet you still hate em because you’ve been told to do so. Eren wants to end all that in the most f*ed up way
Eren didn't care about ending the cycle of hatred, he just wanted to save his friends
Eren is simply a person who would go to extreme lengths to protect the people he loves, and by any means necessary.
this is one of the best channels out here
If you don't sacrifice anything, and can't change anything ~Armin
And that same man simping over a murderer who massacred all the scouts, friends and indirectly his Grandfather 💀
@@tinytitan8807and that mf also betrayed his country just for a girl who kill his squad and his whole peace
@@tinytitan8807Armin became such an L after he got revived. Erwin should have lived imo. I actually think he would go forward with the rumbling or at least participate in a mini rumbling where he destroys all the military bases in the world.
“Eren never changes” **proceeds to explain how eren changes**
I think the interesting thing is what about him changes. His core motivations stay the same, his ruthlessness stays the same, but his understanding of the world grows and he makes more calculated choices.
Eren wanted freedom for his people from the start and was always willing to do anything to get it. That’s the through line of his character.
Yes, yes finally someone who understands...
This changed my entire thought about life lol 😂
The people who are saying that Eren only did the Rumbling to protect Paradise and his friends missed a very important part of his character. The part that Eren revealed when taking to Ramzi.
He tood Ramzi that, yes, he wanted to do the Rumbling to protect the island and his friends, but that’s not all. He revealed that when he found the outside world was not like the world he envisioned in Armin’s book, when he found out that humanity existed outside the walls, he was *dissapponted.* He wanted to wipe everything away.
That adds a whole new layer to his character and many people don’t realize.
yeah he's just psychotic and poorly written in the final arc, but people only like characters who are badass so a poorly written but "cool" eren will be popular
@@Caped__Baldy Kindly elaborate.
Thats an interpretation from that one video, but he effectively died a hero to his friends, which was Isayama's intentions. His whole plan was to get rid of the titan curse and give Paradis a chance
Well at first he was dissappointed but after living with them for four years, he realized that Marley was exactly like Paradise, not just 'enemies" but normal people, good and bad, he literally does the exact same thing Reiner did, and when after all that when he said "we're the same" is the most chilling thing he says because Reiner realizes that he means to attack the city
He literally forgot about armins book in season 3
All those in favor of Eren’s rumbling
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They deserve everything that's coming there way...i say let it rumble
As the above reply says " LET IT RUMBLE "..... TATAKAE!!!!!!!!!!!
Yes mate I'm here.
Saying that you guys agreeing with Eren's release of the rumble is the same with you also agree with mass/school shooters irl.
@@DeathFORcameOur comparing a story made up with pixels to a real life scenario...
Eren is what happens when you don’t give up on a goal
When people say that Eren had no character development throughout the entire series, it literally tells me that they don’t know anything about screenwriting or storytelling. And they don’t really understand Eren’s character at all. I at first didn’t understand his character, until rewatching it for the second time. I like Eren as a character and I would be an absolute liar if I said that I never liked him. In my opinion he’s underrated and under appreciated.
BRO EREN'S CHARACTERIZATION >>>>>
Ok so what do you understand, what makes him a good character, and wdym about the development?
@@Angel32134 he was a well-written character with so much depth and lore. I mean ofc it's cuz he's the mc, but his character is complex as he isn't rlly good or evil.. and he never changed like how ppl say he did.. he was the same ambitious, goal driven boy who wanted to eliminate the enemy (the one harming ppl he care about) he jsut became more confident in doing so even if he is hurting ppl in the process.
S1: he wants to kill all the titans
S3-4: he learns the titans are only humans who lived under oppression.
@@sevengrapes-gi1io But even from Paths,Eren cemented rhe fact about him taking others freedom if he want to achieve his own.Then proceeds to pathetically simp over Mikasa .
@@abyzz4419 development in stories doesn't necessarily mean they're beneficial to other characters, it can just mean that we've gotten to see more of the characters flaws that were relevant to the story
This is why attack on Titan is the most sad anime I've ever watched because it's also like reality.
eren is that one friend who fucks you up and make you feel good about it 😂
Way to underrated
Eren Yaegar is such an ironic character, he’s a man chained to freedom. He’s restricted by his own innate and twisted desire for it, so much so that he didn’t have any choices to make in the first place. Eren passing his memories to his past self gave him an inevitable future and took away his freedom of choice.
attack on titan really emphasized talking before fighting and i love that as a lesson
Yup this is what I understand after reading the Manga.... I won't give spoiler but yeah he was same from the start u will know after reading or watching ending
I want to know plz tell me eren was alive or not plzz tell me
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@@Censton but today I completed all 4 seasons he is live how he is dead I don't understand I saw many videos all videos say same things Eren is dead but season 4 ending eren was attacking all world
@@noorulhassan346 in manga
Final season part 3 will come in 2023 where he dies
@@Censton that means he will confirmed diead
-"We are the same"!!!
He never changed but he sure did hit puberty really hard
Episode 1 when his mom died he said he’ll kill every single last one of them that attacked their home.
Well he’s keeping that promise wether they are titans or not. Almost gives you chills how planned out this show was.
It's either the world or his people dies. He chose to protect his people.
Perfect loop, forever justice for Eren
That loop was legit perfect
I normally can't stand "perfect loops" but this is smooooooth. Also just a great short in general 👍
Eren: "I'm gonna kill every last one of (titans)!"
*ends world of Titans
Pea Brains: "EreH dIDnt AcHiEVe AnYtHiNg."
eren* and he didnt achieve anything
@@KadenFinity yeah but everlasting peace can't be achieved.
@@KadenFinity They said Ereh cuz how mikasa says it lol
@@KadenFinity "eren*" 🤓
@@edgelord121 cry
Eren himself is the strongest Titan in final season after obtaining Founding titan, it would not be fair if he does not kill himself to avenge his mom
"Last season" - Famous last words
Eren is the protagonist and antagonist on its own story 💖🔥
basically there is a difference between changing as a character and getting new information. Erens character at it's core never changed it's just that he acts different because he has more insight into how the world really works. going from someone with a very limited understanding and thus simple motives to someone with more information who has to make a difficult decision
that said genocide is still without a doubt evil, but most of us would be willing to do something horrible to protect what we love. Eren's decision is objectively evil yet also understandable. he is a monster AND a human
It's apart of his character development. He's consistent to what he always would have been but Eren did change after he had the knowledge of what titans were and the truth behind it.
If eren allowed young eren to know the truth too soon he wouldn't have ever worked with the scouts to kill all the titans while he was naive thus never allowing eldia to become free from the walls. Eren also allowed his mother to die by letting grisha get the attack titan instead of protecting his family. However if eren never got the attack titan and let his mother live young eren would've probably still joined the scouts and died to the old man titan in the early seasons thus leading to eldia's downfall.
My point is eren did change but it is the most natural change in a character I've seen in any media. They really took time with his character. Its extremely well done.
Honestly that scene in the special recently released when eren is telling the kid he is sorry and crying but the kid has no idea what’s going to happen might be the deepest and most real moment of wrens character arc as in he knows what he will do will kill thousands of innocent people but he is still going to achieve his goal, simply showing yes there is humanity in Erens heart but his goal is more important than his feelings
Absolutely! I was waiting to see if someone else also noticed this
There is no good and bad in war, it's only about the sides.
he just learned who the real titans are.
"The essence of what we see and what is are two completely different things"
This is also not the first time Eren has been through all this as he has sent memories back to his past self.. he’s been trying to save people before this specific time line version of him even lost his mother
The boy who wanted freedom the most,gave it up for his friends
Even freedom needs a price to pay.
Eren is a noble hero in my eyes
AOT: growing up and realizing your friends are not your friends.
Characters in SNK are the most realistics from any series. There’s is no the good guys vs the bad guys. Everyone can be either good or evil.
The most beautiful thing about Attack on Titan is that it's one of the only forms of media I've ever seen or read that has no good guys, no bad guys. No sides to take, no morals to question. You see the whole story from everyone's point of view and realise that by the end, nobody was right to do what they did, but nobody was wrong either.
Going back to season 1 Eren said:
“I will kill them. Every last one.”
Pretty sure he wasn’t referring to just Titans
He was referring to his enemies. At that time his enemies were Titans. Eren didn't change, his world did.
his core values never changed but you gotta be blind to say eren himself never changed. bro has top tier character development for a reason
The only difference between Eren now and back in season 1 is motivation. His original motivation was avenging his mother and finding what his father left him. His motive now is saving his friends and remaining family. He sees ending everyone else in the world, or at least most of them, as the only sure way to do that.
Exactly. Eren's character is all about protecting the people he loves and their freedom. He was always like that, that's what I love so much about his character and his consistency.
Ik that's why he is still my fav character in AOT ❤😌
Awww The edgy boy îs your favorite. And an emoji. Awww you must be 5 years old. Good boy. Want a biscuit? Awwwwww good edgy boy
He’s so tragic. At the end it feels like the audience is Mikasa. Eren achieves both saves his friends and manages to strangely achieve peace for them but at the cost of his own life and legacy. The moment Mikasa is holding him should be how the audience feels, devastated at the inevitable outcome that he manufactured, loving a boy who finally found peace
@Ue you never heard “you only get peace when you die” when you die there are no more wars or struggle or conflict. It’s silence. It’s peaceful
@Ue the whole point of these pages were to show that peace is not a never ending state but a fragile one.
Also Mikasa, Armin and Co. were all basically dead due to old age at that point so Eren kinda succeeded in saving his friends?
His goal was never to bring world peace but protect his friends and that's what he did.
Eren straight playin the villan so the gang can be the saviors of humanity
This is what I've been sayin about AOT for a long time
Eren got to a level Sasuke couldnt reach. He caught actual bodies
Lots of it
Some people just don't do nuance, but it's nuance that makes a good story absolutely phenomenal and emotionally devastating 💔
There is no nuance in creating a situation for yourself where you have to do something unspeakably stupid then acting like you’re a victim for having to do it. It’s just stupid
@Daisy Daisy nuance and stupidity aren't mutually exclusive . People make bad decisions all the time but it doesn't mean we can't appreciate all the little levers that brought the situation to fruition. It isn't one act of stupidity of one person, it's many decisions big and small that led to this. You pull any of those levers and the outcome could have changed. The end result can be black/white/good/bad....but the journey is a complete gray mess that I enjoy. You didn't enjoy it and that fine, but it is absolutely present.
@@No_Relation_666 it’s nuanced af bruh. Just having the basic idea of war itself is nuance. It’s two sides trying to convince the other but no one is listening so they butt heads and meet in the middle while knowing violence and war is just senseless death for both sides and no one actually wins.
Fully agree. Some people think in such a shallow black and white mindset, it’s people like that who truly aren’t perceiving and understanding the show as much as they should.
"Eren never really changed" but his smile did change
Eren is the living embodiment of the saying "you either die a hero or live long enough to see yourself become the villain."
Eren is not evil. His act is for his family, friends, and people in paradise. T_T
Yes he is, sure, he wanted to protect his people, but his dream is to kill, at this point, you really want to ignore how evil Eren is, he wipes out nearly the whole population, he thought life was boring until he got his titan and got to killing and fighting, he is evil, but people empathize with him.
Spoiler tho
He killed his mom
@@Angel32134 Well Eren is in war already so killing is justifiable. If you want peace, you need to kill. Killing is normal in war where it's kill or be killed situation. There is no talk no jutsu in real life because in WWII, Allies need to kill some Axis soldiers and use Nuke on Hiroshima and Nagasaki(Killing civilians in the process) to achieve peace and it is no different in AoT.
Fun fact: The Titans are just drunk people who are so high they will even start cannibalism
Drunk on spinal fluids
That 5 stages of grief edit sequence was legit!!!🔥🤙🏻
Eren is just a human being looking forward for peace.
What do you mean by "human being" ?
My little brother is watching it for the first time, and I'm rewatching along with him, and we are on s1 and I'm realizing he was always like this.
My knowledge of attack on titan before watching this:
Naked muscle titan
Trench warfare (?)
What I know about attack on titan after watching this video:
Naked muscle titan
Trench warfare (?)
The main character wants to wipe out a race because they killed his mom
You know more then most
I really. Really. Really want to spoil something about his mom
@@CallMeSaltyScorpion go ahead, don't plan on ever watching the show
@@laundrybasketgamers Through time travel shenanigans every single person ever killed by the Titans over like, a decade, where controlled by him. He ordered the the smiling Titan to eat his mom from the future to ensure he becomes the crazy fuck he is.
And then he cry’s about how he’s going to die after killing 80% of the world
@@CallMeSaltyScorpion bruhh lmaoo. Did you even watch aot? Seems like you didn’t understand a bit of it
We all know it was mikasa calling him familly
FAX😂😂😂
Man couldn't handle someone else having her fr
Lmao😭🤣
@@setokaiba3518 fr lol Simpin eren just hit historia like tf
😂😂😂😂😂😂
When your the antagonist and protagonist at the same time.
The Speech of the Marleyan General was deep.
"Our hatred is marching right before us'
Also Flock is the only one who survived Erwins speech. It actually shocks me how much the rest of the squad changed. If Erwin was still alive he would not hesitate and support Eren as much as possible.
There's about 7 100 languages in the world and this man decided to speak FAXX👏
No Erwin would not support Eren. Anyone who supports that plan believe that it doesn’t make a difference if they’re fighting humans or titans. Erwin specifically did think it would make a difference. That’s why he was so intent on proving his fathers theory.
@@No_Relation_666 Erwon probably does support.Its a kill or be killed situation and Erwin wouldnt let the sacrifices of jis soldiers in vain.Ots not that Rumbling os a good thing(obviously),.But thats the only way to end the cycle of hatred.
@@tinytitan8807awww eren fans are delusional. Anything new? You want to see marley killed because they are generic bad guys. Which shows how badly written aot îs. They failed to make eren complex since his enemies are just a generic evil nation who wants to kill eldia. Wowww such a complex show. Even reiner annie and The others are basically eldians prisoner, not marleyans.
@@mihaimercenarul7467 brither, go watch the show before you write
Genocide at global scale sounds pretty evil
to me. Two wrongs don't make one right. I find hilarious how many people justify it. Like many do with real life slaughters. He did not only kill enemies but millions of innocent people too, even some who where friendly to him.
What's even funnier is when people try to justify what DIO from JJBA did! XD
Yeah his motive doesn't changed but he became cold and badass
Eren knows how everything plays out even his death and still went along with it
"There are no good or bad sides in AoT" uhhh Marleyans are literally oppressing a group of people. Pretty bad... Love the centrist takes LOL
Eren was always fighting to protect the weak from the abusers. He did it for armin, he did it for eldia
after the season 3 reveal, it was clear that either they'll wage war against the world, or lay down and die.
Eren chose his friends.
Eren is a chaotic neutral human
Then he was evil from the start, that’s the point you are missing. He is a natural villain who was a situational hero
How is he evil lol. Is marley not evil then for wanting to wipe his people out as well?
@@vittoriovenetov9655 they are, your point?
@@vittoriovenetov9655 Both sides can be shitty, you know?
Lets call everyone evil then , lol . Fight gor survival isnt evil thing to do
@@user-df8lp9zq8s he’s not fighting for survival because his survival didn’t depend on this
The manga ending is so amazing but no one understand it
It is flawed in some ways but it's a decent ending. Maybe like a 7/10. Whenever I ask someone hating on the ending they come up with stupid personal reasons.
@@edgelord121 Man I swear it's the best ending ever for the show
all other ending "Full rumbling, zekes plan, or any other ending" are just stupid endings
but this ending was perfect for thia show
Nah, the ending created too many plot holes and left character arcs broken
@@edgelord121 what would be a 10/10 ending.
@@metroidcomet1116There are really not plot holes , only rushed plot lines . Character arcs broken ? Whose arks ? Main trio has perfect endings .
Ur last sentence, about not make peace, hit so close
still love eren and rooting for him. he’s been traumatized so much
oh common he tried his best for peace and in the last ep of anime we found out when he gave up and knew there was no other way. The only reason marlians are working with eldians now is because of eren
There's about 7 100 languages in the world and this man decided to speak fax👏bravo👏👏
@@tinytitan8807 Thank you sir
No he actually didn’t. He specifically shot down every option that was presented to him then fucked off the second he got the chance. Give one example of something he actually tried. From the second he learned he could he fully intended to do the rumbling
@@No_Relation_666 I cant tell if you r joking or just watched another show
@@intensemk1381 i can’t tell if you just don’t have an argument because you know im right or if you just didn’t pay attention
I do understand Eren. If I am Eren, I will do the exact same thing or even worst.
No
No you wouldn't lol.
Omg no lol you wouldn't possibly be that stupid
Let me put in simple way.
Omg they think am a monster, I'll be that monster and show them
you’d be 6ft under the first season
Finally a video and comments which describes my feeling and my personal opinion toward what's going
Bro forgot about the rumbling