I love the analogy of the goal/criteria being to get to grandma's house but there might be numerous routes/strategies as to how to achieve that. thank-you ( I also like a related idea from you that luring is a bit like using a sat nav to get there - it doesn't help you get there without the sat nav that well !)
Oh this makes so much sense and I can see where I’ve made the mistake of accepting/rewarding something because he tried but just didn’t quite get the criteria right. And he knows it too. I’ll be more conscious of that.
Just this morning, my little shift in strategy was to say 'pivot' instead of "come back" while walking my dog. She is a puller, getting better, but I can wait forever for her to make the choice to come back to my side when I halt her for pulling too far ahead. That combination of words is not effective for me with her. But she pivots on a dime when I do rally o with her. today's loose leash walk was far better than other walk recently
Wow! I need to watch this a few more times to process all this great information. I need to remember when we hit a roadblock to break things down into smaller pieces and make it harder for him to fail. I know this! Why can't I remember it when we are stuck!
Great reminders for experienced people with a new dog that learns differently than their other dog and wonderful examples for beginning trainers - thank you
Love this video! I had somuch trouble with the concept before I started training g with Sharon! She helped me understand about not changing criteria. I have a sheltie who barked when we trained. She made me see that he had no idea what I wanted because the ground rules kept changing. Now things go well with only the occasional woof . He can concentrate and work hard! Your examples were good esp for the back.
Great reinforcement for strategy changes now that my dog is temporarily in a cone due to an eye infection. Training will continue using different strategies to achieve the same results. Perfect timing of this podcast for me. Thank you.
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤ Nailed it again Susan! Thank You! I needed these reminders regarding criteria! You think you know it but then looking at it from different perspectives with your examples really drives it home for me. ❤ Excellent explanations and solutions.
Another fabulous podcast, thank you Susan. And just what I have been doing wrong with my latest training, changing the criteria and rewarding a behaviour that is almost there but not quite right. So will change strategy ❤ and yes I have tried to teach my dog to walk backwards with walking towards him but all he does is sit down, ha ha. Thank you for sharing how you get your dog to walk backwards
It's soooo good to hear you again. I hope you had wonderful holidays. I think your videos are just soo helpful. And your Grandma example was on point. 🤭 Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. ♥️
I love your videos so much ! And I have came into a hard stop on training my dogs I do have 2 puppies ! One just turned 1 on Christmas Day and the other one is going to turn 1 on the 29th . I wish I came across your podcast before I got my second dog 😭 but there is no going back ! I did purchase the crate games, homeschool the dog and pedicure and I’m not sure on which one to start with or can I start all of them or how would I plan the training for my dogs I feel so lost and stressed out I try to train my dogs but they always loose interest and I get discouraged 😭 I know this is out of topic but I need help 😭
Hi Sandra, you've made great choices and your programs are brilliant for starting out! You can do all three at once. Susan has a great video to help you plan, here's where you can watch - th-cam.com/video/vFZpn62pI60/w-d-xo.html And if you'd like a little help getting started, send us a note to wag@dogsthat.com, we're here for you.
Great vid as always! Quick clarification question, do you "ping pong" the difficulty across acquisition trials (eg if we're working on recall, we may vary the distance between 10-15ft across 10x trials) so the trials are not getting predictably harder and harder on that parameter? Or, once a certain level of criteria has been successfully offered, that's our new minimum criteria for reinforcement (eg with weaves, once pooch has achieved 4 poles we always stay at 4 but perhaps change approach angle if they're struggling to maintain criteria)? I hope all that makes sense!
Yes 100% I do. I find by including ridiculously easy trials rather than progressively working to increase the degree of difficulty the dog stays more focused and confident and your progress is exponentially faster than constantly working on the edge of a reinforcement ratio strain.
? How is this different than your rewarding things they may be having trouble with before moving on? Like getting rewarded quickly for something they're having trouble with? One of the episodes says most people try to just continue on when they get it right rather than reward for that thing that was so difficult before moving on. Just wondering. Does that make sense?
I’m not sure I’m clear about your question, however, reinforcing a dog for that which is correct after they’ve made a mistake is always great dog training, but it is something most new dog owners in particular forget to do. That isn’t related to what I’m teaching today, today’s focus is about why you should be changing the criteria in order to just feed the dog.
This brings up a question that I wanted to put to Susan for over 10 years here goes… What is the difference between lowering criteria and Susan‘s “roughly right?”
Roughly right is intended to prevent people from getting too focussed on perfection at the expense of the dogs rate of reinforcement and confidence. Roughly right is different than lowering criteria in that we may reinforce a repetition of a slower down in the midst of a set, but we wouldn’t reinforce a down with the dog’s front legs locking elbows straight out in front keeping the elbows well off the floor. I hope that makes sense.
I'm teaching my doodle to put his chin on the floor (from a down position). I started with a lure, but he just kept bumping my hand. So I put the kibble on the floor, and he tries to army-crawl over to it. He smells food on my hand and bops my hand rather than simply drop his chin. I've been able to use a lure to train several other maneuvers, but this one isn't working, and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, or how to help him understand exactly what I want. Thoughts?
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This episode is spot on ! Thank you, Susan.
I love the analogy of the goal/criteria being to get to grandma's house but there might be numerous routes/strategies as to how to achieve that. thank-you ( I also like a related idea from you that luring is a bit like using a sat nav to get there - it doesn't help you get there without the sat nav that well !)
I missed you during the break!!! I need my fix :) - "Make it easy to be correct" love it
Oh this makes so much sense and I can see where I’ve made the mistake of accepting/rewarding something because he tried but just didn’t quite get the criteria right. And he knows it too. I’ll be more conscious of that.
Just this morning, my little shift in strategy was to say 'pivot' instead of "come back" while walking my dog. She is a puller, getting better, but I can wait forever for her to make the choice to come back to my side when I halt her for pulling too far ahead. That combination of words is not effective for me with her. But she pivots on a dime when I do rally o with her. today's loose leash walk was far better than other walk recently
But will this be more difficult later for just a pivot?
Wow! I need to watch this a few more times to process all this great information. I need to remember when we hit a roadblock to break things down into smaller pieces and make it harder for him to fail. I know this! Why can't I remember it when we are stuck!
You can do this!
Great reminders for experienced people with a new dog that learns differently than their other dog and wonderful examples for beginning trainers - thank you
Love this video! I had somuch trouble with the concept before I started training g with Sharon! She helped me understand about not changing criteria. I have a sheltie who barked when we trained. She made me see that he had no idea what I wanted because the ground rules kept changing. Now things go well with only the occasional woof . He can concentrate and work hard! Your examples were good esp for the back.
Great reinforcement for strategy changes now that my dog is temporarily in a cone due to an eye infection. Training will continue using different strategies to achieve the same results. Perfect timing of this podcast for me. Thank you.
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Nailed it again Susan! Thank You! I needed these reminders regarding criteria! You think you know it but then looking at it from different perspectives with your examples really drives it home for me. ❤
Excellent explanations and solutions.
Fabulous tips, techniques and examples, as always! Thank you Susan!
Thanks so much, Susan!
Thank you⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️⭐️
I especially appreciate the fitness tips. There are “awareness” moments here too- eureka!
Susan, brilliant content and knowledge sharing as always. I thank you. 😊
Thanks for watching!
Great video!! I needed to hear this! I’m so guilty!
Glad it was helpful, Chris, thank you!
That is such a helpful lesson!! How do I get the notes please?
Thank you 🙏
Another fabulous podcast, thank you Susan. And just what I have been doing wrong with my latest training, changing the criteria and rewarding a behaviour that is almost there but not quite right. So will change strategy ❤ and yes I have tried to teach my dog to walk backwards with walking towards him but all he does is sit down, ha ha. Thank you for sharing how you get your dog to walk backwards
Thank you, Petra. You got this! Happy training!
Love your analogies! 😃
Thank you very much. Back to crate games for us
It's soooo good to hear you again. I hope you had wonderful holidays. I think your videos are just soo helpful. And your Grandma example was on point. 🤭 Thank you so much for sharing your knowledge. ♥️
Thank you, Charly! We hope you've had a wonderful holiday season and a great start to the new year 🥳
Thank you for making this video I needed it
I love your videos so much ! And I have came into a hard stop on training my dogs I do have 2 puppies ! One just turned 1 on Christmas Day and the other one is going to turn 1 on the 29th . I wish I came across your podcast before I got my second dog 😭 but there is no going back ! I did purchase the crate games, homeschool the dog and pedicure and I’m not sure on which one to start with or can I start all of them or how would I plan the training for my dogs I feel so lost and stressed out I try to train my dogs but they always loose interest and I get discouraged 😭 I know this is out of topic but I need help 😭
Hi Sandra, you've made great choices and your programs are brilliant for starting out! You can do all three at once. Susan has a great video to help you plan, here's where you can watch - th-cam.com/video/vFZpn62pI60/w-d-xo.html
And if you'd like a little help getting started, send us a note to wag@dogsthat.com, we're here for you.
Another Great podcast and Happy New Year ❤️❤️🥂🎉🎊💐❤️❤️❤️🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Thanks for watching, Nancy! And happy new year to you too! ❤️
Great vid as always! Quick clarification question, do you "ping pong" the difficulty across acquisition trials (eg if we're working on recall, we may vary the distance between 10-15ft across 10x trials) so the trials are not getting predictably harder and harder on that parameter? Or, once a certain level of criteria has been successfully offered, that's our new minimum criteria for reinforcement (eg with weaves, once pooch has achieved 4 poles we always stay at 4 but perhaps change approach angle if they're struggling to maintain criteria)? I hope all that makes sense!
Yes 100% I do. I find by including ridiculously easy trials rather than progressively working to increase the degree of difficulty the dog stays more focused and confident and your progress is exponentially faster than constantly working on the edge of a reinforcement ratio strain.
@@RaptorsGirl Thank you! I do too but have heard arguments both ways.
Love it
? How is this different than your rewarding things they may be having trouble with before moving on? Like getting rewarded quickly for something they're having trouble with? One of the episodes says most people try to just continue on when they get it right rather than reward for that thing that was so difficult before moving on. Just wondering. Does that make sense?
I’m not sure I’m clear about your question, however, reinforcing a dog for that which is correct after they’ve made a mistake is always great dog training, but it is something most new dog owners in particular forget to do. That isn’t related to what I’m teaching today, today’s focus is about why you should be changing the criteria in order to just feed the dog.
This brings up a question that I wanted to put to Susan for over 10 years here goes… What is the difference between lowering criteria and Susan‘s “roughly right?”
Roughly right is intended to prevent people from getting too focussed on perfection at the expense of the dogs rate of reinforcement and confidence. Roughly right is different than lowering criteria in that we may reinforce a repetition of a slower down in the midst of a set, but we wouldn’t reinforce a down with the dog’s front legs locking elbows straight out in front keeping the elbows well off the floor.
I hope that makes sense.
@@RaptorsGirl thanks I think I have it now.
I'm teaching my doodle to put his chin on the floor (from a down position). I started with a lure, but he just kept bumping my hand. So I put the kibble on the floor, and he tries to army-crawl over to it. He smells food on my hand and bops my hand rather than simply drop his chin. I've been able to use a lure to train several other maneuvers, but this one isn't working, and I can't figure out what I'm doing wrong, or how to help him understand exactly what I want. Thoughts?
Hi! Susan has a podcast where she shares why she prefers not to use luring in her training: th-cam.com/video/FxAeS2BNvKY/w-d-xo.html. Happy training!
@@DogsThat Thank you! I've started watching it and it makes a ton of sense.
So cute 😍 💓
You could knit but I do t zee that happening. 😊
Thos woman is awesome
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Don’t worry, just found how to do that!😊
Super Naida! We'll link the podcast webpage here for anyone else with the same question - shapedbydog.com