Your good as long as your not trying to get an isolated spore print, I grow the bags to check the batches, so I always have blocks to deal with, of all kind of strains, but of course if one of them has contamination you'll loose both,
I have a grow bag and I did the break and shake probably 3 weeks ago. I have cut the bag yet and I’ve had it in pretty much darkness. I know have mushroom pins growing everywhere. What’s your recommendation? Should I transfer to a tub?
Yea I would get it out I put parelite n the bottom of tub with a couple cups of water do foil over it it's gonna cause a lot of moisture just don't let it sit in a puddle of moisture water i put the block on an upside down coffe cup saucer or even an upsidedown glass bowl because the excess moisture will go down the sides light moisture and oxygen be great for that
try a long thin unibit or stepbit with super light or almost no pressure and clean the bit after every hole. less chance of breaking the plastic. I just drilled out my first ever yesterday and broke 3 tubs before I figured it out lol
@@rynhanson I probably would have done that with myself but all of the hole saws I have way too big for the filters I had purchased..... Damn good tip brother!! I wanted to be able to cover mine with the micropore tape so I kept a bunch of smaller holes instead of larger. Worked out pretty good I'm on my third flush 😁
@@alienodditycoins4395 I use 1.5 inch hole saw and 2 inch paper tape. But I'm just starting and about to start fruiting. But have a construction and remolding background so drilling through plastic I have lots of experience with. Also if you place painters tape on where you drill it will help keep from cracking and keep less little plastic pieces
I find that after they start pinning they love the moisture from doin the perilite it's more consistent I guess if you have the time to mist 3 or 4 times a day it's the same thing, I would mist the lid and sides of tub real good tho after one of our bags is fully colonized it's got an immunity I don't know maybe Ile make a video of misting or the alternative n see wich one gets sick first
did this with a batch of pink buffalo today im a broke college studnet waiting on benefits so i used a sanitized foil pan as the lid and the transparent top as the bottom so i can see it form better. i have a martha ten with a but no perlite at the moment any tips?
Do you have vermicellite? If you got a fully colonized brick and you have a humidifier on your Martha's tent and it's clean a friend of mine puts our bags rite in the tent and cranks up moisture ur looking for moisture and oxygen after the brick is colonized, if you don't got perilite id mist it 3 times a day and fan it for a couple minutes
Yes I have done that when I have run out of space I think I have title wave and jmf in a big tub n one of our videos got a lot of mushrooms out of both bricks
@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLC cool, I have a golden teacher block and a blue meanie block I am going to put into the same one. I have run out of tubs ATM lol.
I have a grow bag with hundreds of side pins and mushrooms on top growing good, there still looks like a small area on top isn't colonized(it's a 5ib bag) but I'm not sure because I can't see through the bag, would it be too risky to move it to a tub because of that?
I would just be clean and careful some oxygen and moisture would be great for them but make sure you don't smash and kill any pins and leave them in there the dead mushroom tissue will give you contamination so if there is a patch that is not colonized I would use that part as the bottom is this one of our grow bags? Ile help you either way our email is rockymountainsporecompany@gmail.com send me a pic
This guy came in my house to show me this technique he opened a large bag of perlite I had in my house had it snowing everywhere then started to sneeze violently surely contaminating everything 😂😂what a joke look this fool up x meth lab operator...you shouldn't have fucked me over Rick you are scum I helped you on your sons b day when you were broke and that's how you repay people shame on you !!!
Have you ever tried breaking up the brick and spreading it out to be more surface area? I have a all in one bag that's almost fully colonized and I'm debating on moving it to a tub now so it can finish colonizing in the final form it's going to be in but I've never tried it before
We’re in the the same boat, I’m trying to figure out if it’ll produce a bigger yield or will it be the same. (Cannot find straight answers about this online) I have the bag full of substrate + grains. My only assumption is to buy coco coir, and mix it with the the AOI, let it continue to fully colonize and then fruit.
@@etherealjay I'd be careful with the coir if anything do a pseudo casing layer with some substrate seen a lot of people with contam adding the coir casing but if you pasteurize it properly then it's probably fine. It's weird that I see people getting contam a lot doing the all in one to a tub and using a casing but the people just moving the brick or breaking the brick up and going to a tub seem to have no issues
I use a 1" hole saw and a drill I run the drill backwards and it's easier to not crack the tub it does a little more melting than teeth catching the plastic and cracking works great
I bought 2 grow bags from mycolabs and a spore syringe from inoculate the world.. 3 weeks after i inoculated the bags.. I noticed green spots among the white mycelium.. Does this mean that the bag is done for? Or are the green spits normal?
@GeneralMcNuggs Yes, I am aware.. But I only lost 1 bag.. I did a spot treatment on the second as soon as I saw the first sign of trichoderma.. That was almost 2 weeks ago, and it seems to have done the job because it's gone.. I figured it would work because of how cds works..
Would it better to use two 18 quart containers? Flip over the 2nd one and use it as a lid? Also how much LC would you recommend for a 3lb grow bag and also a 5lb? Thanks brotha, SUBBED...
I would use half of the lc syringe on the 3 lb and the hole thing on the 5lb n I got some of our grow bags with tud on top of tub n the fruiting room now it gives a real nice humidity that's only because those fruiting blocks stand up so high, honestly if you are putting ur not using a grow bag and are putting ur spawn to substrate I use the 17 to 20 quart tubs and. Use the lids they come with, won't change it cause it works so well for us, I only grow the grow bags to show people how to and check my own work for contamination before I get rid of them, we will be offering liquid culture shortly on our site as well, make sure you have a good seal if you do the tub on top of tub I just use the thick paper tape, as far as the contamination from the other comment maybe it was the substrate if you were 100% on ur grain spawn or may be the tubs let contam in I am showering people our grain bags n doing tubs in about 2 weeks we been doing this for many years it's a process of elimination finding out wear ur cantam is coming from, I hope I have helped you even if you don't order from us go to our web site get our bizz number n text me pics n i will help if I can ..... Have a great day
@@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLChey brother, thanks for the feed back... right now I have a few bags going and im a rookie trying to learn... ive been avoiding bag to substrate because I fear contamination, but the way you did it on this video gives me hope by using that rack in the tub... so once its fully colonized, is it less likely to get contaminated..??. I didn't see you using a flow hood.. I know those help,but some of these videos I watch show ppl going overboard with being sterile... Im actually going to try this method here... I also need some more grow bags too... im going to check out your website... thank you kindly for your help.. mush love and respect
I definitely use a flow hood when I am working on anything that will come into contact w air at all, being sterile is of the up most importants, I am transitioning from a sterile syringe into a sterile grow bag low enough risk that you dont need a flow hood if you dont have air flow in the room, i am doing a video on grain spawn and putting it to substrate in about 2 weeks if ur spawn is fully colonized it has an immunity till them and one mold spore any thing will ruin it I got you ur only a beginner till ur not, ur success is my success
@@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLCright on... thank you for your help.. I just visited your website looking for grow bags.... couldn't find them on there.... also was wondering if I can call or txt you about my 1st bag I started.. I inoculated it on 5-26 and it was slow... I did a break and shake on 7-22 and it was doing good... but it seems like it just stalled on me... I think its ready to fruit,but not 100% sure.. was trying to see if I can get your opinion on it whenever you have time.. I can leave my info in the contact section through your website if thats ok...
Use a good mono tub if you dial it in perfect it keeps humidity till you pick ur mushrooms, we are doing them with some grain spawn we are growing now, or you can use a tent with a humidifier or a Martha's tent, we been doin this a long time n if you do ur mono tub right it will hold humidity then you can stack the mono tubs on shelves if you are growing a hole room, that's what we do, I don't like Martha's tents or having a lot of stuff together because if you do get contamination it's segregated to that tub, I am doing a video using the grain bags we sell and the sterile substrate we sell soon, you could try a humidifier, I get great results just keeping it simple. I hope I've helped you and thank you for supporting our channel
@@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLC yes definitely thank you! My mono tub has some condensation but the thermometer in the room says the humidity is 40%!! I read it should be up to 90%
Me too, my first ever inoculation to a bag ,get contaminated, after 6 days, i think is normal ,even for advanced growers, to get contamination.... of course ,as a newbie, you could do more mistakes, but it's all part of the process of learning and adjusting.
Got paranoid about the moisture in the bag w rubber bands they are in the next video or one after that I put it in a big tub n took it out of the grow bag, I do shelves of tubs wanted everything in same size tubs ended up putting it in bigger tub, I just started selling the grow bags n just started doing you tube videos I should have put that in there my bad, thanks for the support
Yes and no , People do all that and wait an additional 2 to 3 weeks for it to colonize and end up with the same amount of mushrooms you get off a solid cake like this.. Those big substrate mono tubs are just full of aborts ,I’d rather have. Quality not quantity
It's not grain spawn it's a grow bag that already has the substrate in it, you can also see the updates in the newer videos no aborts they actually grew quite large mushrooms that had to keep being picked because they kept sporulating, I think if you already grow mushrooms than you can tell the products are very sterile and the genetics are sound, n you can do it how ever you want, n if it's your first time than that's what the videos are for,
The bricks are really solid I guess you could spread them out I just wouldn't suggest opening the bag before it's all fully colonized trying to make it easier for people to grow so they buy our grow bags, kinda don't understand the misinformation comment we get about 100 grams dried per brick per bag per flush I do it rite in front of you and in display cases in stores, trying to make it easy for people so they buy our grow bag's, lots of ways to grow mushrooms, im just fruiting them from the bags any more, it's what people want, simple not to many things to worry about, thanks for the feed back apreacate all of you!!
I dunno man this method worked out great for me! The owner of this company is pretty thorough and has proven that quality and yield are important . He has taken the time to walk me through step by step I've tried both of the methods just in the bag and the perlite method...perlite is the way for me !!! I have put 2 per tub and they have all fruited for me so I dunno seems to me like maybe your upset that maybe you did something wrong I dunno all I can say I am VERY PLEASED...... MISINFORMATION.....DEFINATELY NOT!!!!!!
@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLC wait so I've got substrate setup and a grow bag colonising so should I not mix sub and bag together or should I just leave bag in tub and wait for fruiting
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I feel like im tweaking just listening to this guys nose drain
Just started my first grow. So glad I found this channel. Awesome video!
Your good as long as your not trying to get an isolated spore print, I grow the bags to check the batches, so I always have blocks to deal with, of all kind of strains, but of course if one of them has contamination you'll loose both,
What kind of water do you recomend? Just sterile filtered water?
Thank you for this video it helped alot
I was wondering if this was possipbe, thank you!
Im confused this looks like 1/2 mono 1/2 SGFC - how big are the contamination risks??
I have a grow bag and I did the break and shake probably 3 weeks ago. I have cut the bag yet and I’ve had it in pretty much darkness. I know have mushroom pins growing everywhere. What’s your recommendation? Should I transfer to a tub?
Yea I would get it out I put parelite n the bottom of tub with a couple cups of water do foil over it it's gonna cause a lot of moisture just don't let it sit in a puddle of moisture water i put the block on an upside down coffe cup saucer or even an upsidedown glass bowl because the excess moisture will go down the sides light moisture and oxygen be great for that
If your perlite is hydrated there is no need to soray the foil or tub.
try a long thin unibit or stepbit with super light or almost no pressure and clean the bit after every hole. less chance of breaking the plastic. I just drilled out my first ever yesterday and broke 3 tubs before I figured it out lol
good tip thanks 👍
Use a hole saw in reverse at a slow speed. You want one with alot of small teeth.
@@rynhanson I probably would have done that with myself but all of the hole saws I have way too big for the filters I had purchased..... Damn good tip brother!! I wanted to be able to cover mine with the micropore tape so I kept a bunch of smaller holes instead of larger. Worked out pretty good I'm on my third flush 😁
@@alienodditycoins4395 I use 1.5 inch hole saw and 2 inch paper tape. But I'm just starting and about to start fruiting. But have a construction and remolding background so drilling through plastic I have lots of experience with. Also if you place painters tape on where you drill it will help keep from cracking and keep less little plastic pieces
You can also run the bit backwards n it helps not to crack them
Is the perlite necessary or does that add more risk of contamination is it better to spray mist as needed?
I find that after they start pinning they love the moisture from doin the perilite it's more consistent I guess if you have the time to mist 3 or 4 times a day it's the same thing, I would mist the lid and sides of tub real good tho after one of our bags is fully colonized it's got an immunity I don't know maybe Ile make a video of misting or the alternative n see wich one gets sick first
did this with a batch of pink buffalo today im a broke college studnet waiting on benefits so i used a sanitized foil pan as the lid and the transparent top as the bottom so i can see it form better. i have a martha ten with a but no perlite at the moment any tips?
Do you have vermicellite? If you got a fully colonized brick and you have a humidifier on your Martha's tent and it's clean a friend of mine puts our bags rite in the tent and cranks up moisture ur looking for moisture and oxygen after the brick is colonized, if you don't got perilite id mist it 3 times a day and fan it for a couple minutes
Curious. Could you put two blocks in the same tub with 2 different strains? Or would you reccomend that?
Yes I have done that when I have run out of space I think I have title wave and jmf in a big tub n one of our videos got a lot of mushrooms out of both bricks
@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLC cool, I have a golden teacher block and a blue meanie block I am going to put into the same one. I have run out of tubs ATM lol.
I have a grow bag with hundreds of side pins and mushrooms on top growing good, there still looks like a small area on top isn't colonized(it's a 5ib bag) but I'm not sure because I can't see through the bag, would it be too risky to move it to a tub because of that?
I would just be clean and careful some oxygen and moisture would be great for them but make sure you don't smash and kill any pins and leave them in there the dead mushroom tissue will give you contamination so if there is a patch that is not colonized I would use that part as the bottom is this one of our grow bags? Ile help you either way our email is rockymountainsporecompany@gmail.com send me a pic
This guy came in my house to show me this technique he opened a large bag of perlite I had in my house had it snowing everywhere then started to sneeze violently surely contaminating everything 😂😂what a joke look this fool up x meth lab operator...you shouldn't have fucked me over Rick you are scum I helped you on your sons b day when you were broke and that's how you repay people shame on you !!!
Have you ever tried breaking up the brick and spreading it out to be more surface area? I have a all in one bag that's almost fully colonized and I'm debating on moving it to a tub now so it can finish colonizing in the final form it's going to be in but I've never tried it before
We’re in the the same boat, I’m trying to figure out if it’ll produce a bigger yield or will it be the same. (Cannot find straight answers about this online) I have the bag full of substrate + grains. My only assumption is to buy coco coir, and mix it with the the AOI, let it continue to fully colonize and then fruit.
@@etherealjaymore surface area is more areas to grow so yep
@@etherealjay I'd be careful with the coir if anything do a pseudo casing layer with some substrate seen a lot of people with contam adding the coir casing but if you pasteurize it properly then it's probably fine. It's weird that I see people getting contam a lot doing the all in one to a tub and using a casing but the people just moving the brick or breaking the brick up and going to a tub seem to have no issues
@@etherealjay what did u end up doing? and what were your result. can ya tell? thanks
what did u end up doing?
Yo, I went to your website, and when I tap a spore syringe hillbilly to be exact, all I get is a blank page..
Use a soldering iron to melt your holes in your tubs.
I use a 1" hole saw and a drill I run the drill backwards and it's easier to not crack the tub it does a little more melting than teeth catching the plastic and cracking works great
I bought 2 grow bags from mycolabs and a spore syringe from inoculate the world..
3 weeks after i inoculated the bags.. I noticed green spots among the white mycelium..
Does this mean that the bag is done for?
Or are the green spits normal?
Green is bad.
@GeneralMcNuggs Yes, I am aware.. But I only lost 1 bag.. I did a spot treatment on the second as soon as I saw the first sign of trichoderma.. That was almost 2 weeks ago, and it seems to have done the job because it's gone.. I figured it would work because of how cds works..
so you don't have to soak it ?
Would it better to use two 18 quart containers? Flip over the 2nd one and use it as a lid? Also how much LC would you recommend for a 3lb grow bag and also a 5lb? Thanks brotha, SUBBED...
I would use half of the lc syringe on the 3 lb and the hole thing on the 5lb n I got some of our grow bags with tud on top of tub n the fruiting room now it gives a real nice humidity that's only because those fruiting blocks stand up so high, honestly if you are putting ur not using a grow bag and are putting ur spawn to substrate I use the 17 to 20 quart tubs and. Use the lids they come with, won't change it cause it works so well for us, I only grow the grow bags to show people how to and check my own work for contamination before I get rid of them, we will be offering liquid culture shortly on our site as well, make sure you have a good seal if you do the tub on top of tub I just use the thick paper tape, as far as the contamination from the other comment maybe it was the substrate if you were 100% on ur grain spawn or may be the tubs let contam in I am showering people our grain bags n doing tubs in about 2 weeks we been doing this for many years it's a process of elimination finding out wear ur cantam is coming from, I hope I have helped you even if you don't order from us go to our web site get our bizz number n text me pics n i will help if I can ..... Have a great day
@@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLChey brother, thanks for the feed back... right now I have a few bags going and im a rookie trying to learn... ive been avoiding bag to substrate because I fear contamination, but the way you did it on this video gives me hope by using that rack in the tub... so once its fully colonized, is it less likely to get contaminated..??. I didn't see you using a flow hood.. I know those help,but some of these videos I watch show ppl going overboard with being sterile... Im actually going to try this method here... I also need some more grow bags too... im going to check out your website... thank you kindly for your help.. mush love and respect
I definitely use a flow hood when I am working on anything that will come into contact w air at all, being sterile is of the up most importants, I am transitioning from a sterile syringe into a sterile grow bag low enough risk that you dont need a flow hood if you dont have air flow in the room, i am doing a video on grain spawn and putting it to substrate in about 2 weeks if ur spawn is fully colonized it has an immunity till them and one mold spore any thing will ruin it I got you ur only a beginner till ur not, ur success is my success
I would start w grow bags, I do all the sterile stuff for you, it is really important tho bro, but you do get more mushrooms n a tub
@@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLCright on... thank you for your help.. I just visited your website looking for grow bags.... couldn't find them on there.... also was wondering if I can call or txt you about my 1st bag I started.. I inoculated it on 5-26 and it was slow... I did a break and shake on 7-22 and it was doing good... but it seems like it just stalled on me... I think its ready to fruit,but not 100% sure.. was trying to see if I can get your opinion on it whenever you have time.. I can leave my info in the contact section through your website if thats ok...
So many opinions
Any tips on how to raise humidity in a room?
Use a good mono tub if you dial it in perfect it keeps humidity till you pick ur mushrooms, we are doing them with some grain spawn we are growing now, or you can use a tent with a humidifier or a Martha's tent, we been doin this a long time n if you do ur mono tub right it will hold humidity then you can stack the mono tubs on shelves if you are growing a hole room, that's what we do, I don't like Martha's tents or having a lot of stuff together because if you do get contamination it's segregated to that tub, I am doing a video using the grain bags we sell and the sterile substrate we sell soon, you could try a humidifier, I get great results just keeping it simple. I hope I've helped you and thank you for supporting our channel
@@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLC yes definitely thank you! My mono tub has some condensation but the thermometer in the room says the humidity is 40%!! I read it should be up to 90%
I am going to run a small humidifier outside of my closet where I will be growing them.
whats the perlite for
For Humidity ! doggy pee pads work better
I did this a few months ago (first time growing) and it was full of contamination…I’ll be surprised if it didn’t get contaminated
Me too, my first ever inoculation to a bag ,get contaminated, after 6 days, i think is normal ,even for advanced growers, to get contamination.... of course ,as a newbie, you could do more mistakes, but it's all part of the process of learning and adjusting.
one trick i know to help your chances not to mess up is to not smoke weed before doing the first innoculation ;)@@ZepHoffman
You can't escape contamination apparently, I hope this happy accident didn't turn you off Mycology forever
Probably had too much moisture or you were just in a dirty spot. Keep trying
@@ZepHoffmancontam is not “normal” once you dial in your process and environment
where's the update?
Got paranoid about the moisture in the bag w rubber bands they are in the next video or one after that I put it in a big tub n took it out of the grow bag, I do shelves of tubs wanted everything in same size tubs ended up putting it in bigger tub, I just started selling the grow bags n just started doing you tube videos I should have put that in there my bad, thanks for the support
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Wtf kinda tek is this? You’d be mush better off breaking up the grain and sending to a substrate..
Yes and no , People do all that and wait an additional 2 to 3 weeks for it to colonize and end up with the same amount of mushrooms you get off a solid cake like this.. Those big substrate mono tubs are just full of aborts ,I’d rather have. Quality not quantity
It's not grain spawn it's a grow bag that already has the substrate in it, you can also see the updates in the newer videos no aborts they actually grew quite large mushrooms that had to keep being picked because they kept sporulating, I think if you already grow mushrooms than you can tell the products are very sterile and the genetics are sound, n you can do it how ever you want, n if it's your first time than that's what the videos are for,
It’s called expedited tech.
Talk about taking something that wasnt broken and trying to fix it.... all while spreading misinformation???
The bricks are really solid I guess you could spread them out I just wouldn't suggest opening the bag before it's all fully colonized trying to make it easier for people to grow so they buy our grow bags, kinda don't understand the misinformation comment we get about 100 grams dried per brick per bag per flush I do it rite in front of you and in display cases in stores, trying to make it easy for people so they buy our grow bag's, lots of ways to grow mushrooms, im just fruiting them from the bags any more, it's what people want, simple not to many things to worry about, thanks for the feed back apreacate all of you!!
I dunno man this method worked out great for me! The owner of this company is pretty thorough and has proven that quality and yield are important . He has taken the time to walk me through step by step I've tried both of the methods just in the bag and the perlite method...perlite is the way for me !!! I have put 2 per tub and they have all fruited for me so I dunno seems to me like maybe your upset that maybe you did something wrong I dunno all I can say I am VERY PLEASED...... MISINFORMATION.....DEFINATELY NOT!!!!!!
Agreed you don’t want to break apart your brick once fully colonized and put to fruit in monotub
something a dude named John’s would say
@RockyMountainSporeCompanyLLC wait so I've got substrate setup and a grow bag colonising so should I not mix sub and bag together or should I just leave bag in tub and wait for fruiting
Soldering iron: for the holes, so much easier