Do I Have to Fruit in the Bag?Easy Alternative with All-in-One Grow Bag
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Welcome to a world where growing dung-loving mushrooms is made simpler and more effective! 🍄 If you’ve got an all-in-one grow bag and are wondering, ‘Do I have to fruit in the bag?’, you’ve come to the right place. In this video, I demonstrate an easy and efficient alternative using a modified monotub method, perfect for beginners and those looking to refine their cultivation techniques!
Why limit yourself to the bag when there are more expansive methods available? It all comes down to preference and the more options the better! Join me as I guide you through each step of this alternative approach, ensuring your mushroom cultivation journey is both rewarding and enjoyable.
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SUGGESTION: Next time just place the tub on top of the pad and with a pen/marker trace the bottom and then you'll get a better cut.
I do hate Perlite. I still have it in my shower and sink trap. LOL :)
Hey, fellow CO guy here, so naturally I had to follow you, haha. Just getting into (very amateur) mycology in the last month or so still learning the ropes, and definitely looking forward to all your videos now.
Good stuff man! Keep puttin out what the people need
Get Carnivorous Pitcher Plants for your grow space. I recently got the idea from Fresh From the Farm Fungi
Carnivorous plants can certainly help, but Pitcher Plants target larger insects. You might want to check out Sundews or Butterworts for smaller things like gnats and fruit flies.
Thanks I will
Thank you so much for this! I just ordered a grow in the bag but I want to fruit a lot more than just the top of the bag so I don’t have to grow again for a while. I’ll definitely check out your shop too and give you a follow on fb. Thanks for this!!
Thank you so much for the video this was exactly what I was looking for
Glad it was helpful!
Using those method with the wet pad on the bottom do I still have to spray & mist ? Or if I see the inside of tub has moisture just leave it alone ? Also should I open the lid & fan it every day or once a week Or just the filter holes are enough fresh air ? Thank you very much !!
Colorado here gonna try this
This was super helpful! It was my understanding that you break it up and mix into a tub. I didn’t realize that you can just leave it all in tact after it’s fully colonized and set it inside a tub in this manner. Awesome! Thank for your great resources of information and support. 👍
You're welcome! I'm glad you found it helpful. Mush love Scott! Sorry I haven't replied to you in messenger (so many messages in there). We definitely should put together a hike or nature walk! I"m going to send you a message on fb now.
needed yo see this vid ngl
Thank you for this. My bags arrive tomorrow. Will inoculate with A.P.E. And try this tec
Sounds great I was gonna order some apes but I got stargazers instead mine come tomorrow aswell, I’m excited to say the least.
This is most helpful, I am a beginner getting ready to put 3 bags into an automated monotub fruiting chamber. Planning to try hoodie tek for the first flush just to get the experience, but eventually I'd like to explore other options and methods to see what works best! Thank you and keep these types of alternative videos coming!!!
Good luck!
I’ve got a boomer shroomer inflatable I’m gonna try this with a 5 pound all in one in a couple of weeks I think this will give me more fruits than keeping it in the bag
How often do you have to change out the absorbent pad? Also how much light should the tub be exposed to every day
Fungus gnats hide in the drains of sinks, bathtubs, and showers.
Boiling hot water usually works to dissuade them.
Great tip! I agree.
Thank you@@Comyco 🙏🏻
Incontinence pads are cotton or paper, with a hydrophobic layer to keep moisture away from the surfaces.
Hang fly tape it's a bit messy but cut into 4 in strips hang where u can't bump into
the gnats are definitely a badge earned
I’ve been thinking about getting a monotub but wanna do my first grow in the bag as a start
I am personally not a huge fan of fruiting in the bag lol. Just my preference.
@@Comyco yeah I can see you don’t get as big of a yield vs a tub but I’m pretty new to it so trying to start off slow. I got a bunch of substrate and a couple grain bags for my next one, gonna try it in the tub.
I have a question for you. I inoculated my bag a week ago and am not seeing any mycelium yet. Is this common? I thought I would start seeing something by now. Maybe my syringe was bunk. I keep the bag around 75° for 12-14 hours a day. Does it need constant heat? Any info would help greatly. Thanks!
@@youtubeblockscommentsdont worry about it, my bag took 4 weeks before it was 20% colonized, after that i break and shaked it then left it back in my closet for 2 weeks before transferring it to a tub back in my closet😂 im just now getting pinheads. also did you shake your spore syringe before you injected it?
What size filter patch is best for fruiting? I have a 0.5 micron and the pins that were turning into fruits died so I cut the bag hoodie tek style and the ones that didn’t die are now growing nicely!
No matter what, you still need to rid the container of CO².. There is not enough airflow to blow out the CO². I use a tiny USB metal fan that sits inside the corner of the tub, and just plug it in for a minute without lifting the lid, but at this point, you don't need a completely sealed lid so the holes are pointless. I put a metal clip over the edge of the tub and let one side of the lid be propped up just enough for the fan to blow the air out. No point to ever drill holes..
12:30 I laughed with you but this will definitely help a lot of people. I am doing my first all-in-one cakes from the Booming Acres magic 5lb all-in-ones and Mycco's PEs.
I am doing it in a clear horticulture tent instead of a tub. Should I just open to fan a few times since I am not in a normal tub? Are you using any lighting when fruiting?
I am going to take the cake out of the bag for the first time but I am going to use a foil liner with perlite only because I am nervous about the pad having something on it or not holding water the way I am used to.
You are awesome, I subscribed and will be in contact/support in the future.
Thanks for all you do!
Sorry I didn't see this comment earlier. I hope it went well!
@@Comyco all good! So I went with some TW and P E from ITW and they both did very well with Booming Acres all-in-ones. Take the cakes out of the bags and set them on top of a wet dog pad instead of perlite, then cut circular foil bigger than the cake (if you just use a rectangle the fruits like to come out to the reflection rather than up), and put the cake on top of the foil. Put them in a fruiting tub and never dunk, keep misting and all goes well. May need to FAE more than regular tub so I would fan 2 times a day to avoid fuzzies. Fun experiment with all-in-ones and don't blame anyone that uses them. I am back to tubs though for many reasons that I am sure you are aware of already. Thanks for getting back, made my micro today that much better.
Much love!
In that state of colonization, could it be broken down for fruiting or will it damage it? Thank you 🍄
Good question! It can be broken down further, it'll just have to reconstitute itself which will take a little longer is all.
What would be a proper grow light if there is no natural light?
And could you put two bags in there if they were ready at the same time? Thanks.
Mushrooms need minimal, if any, light. They are not plants and don't technically use it. They know which way up is.
IF you want, a LED rope light from the dollar store would be sufficient. My wife got me a seed starting light a few years ago that has white, red and blue LEDs. My first whack at growing and the intensity of the light prevented growth.
Main things to focus on when fruiting is fresh air exchange (FAE), temperature...low 70s and relative humidity...90-100%
And yes, you can absolutely put two fully colonized bags side by side in a monotub. Now, if you have a specie that prefers more FAE then you'll run into issues with one of them, so make sure if you have two blocks they will both perform relatively the same in your tub. Otherwise a separate tub for one that needs more or less than the other.
Does this make sense? 🤔
Not all mushrooms are created equal so you may have to do a little homework and design modifications as you go.
Mush love friend 💙🍄
Fruiting/harvest videos of this method??? Starting back growing for the first time in 7 years trying bags out and plan to fruit in a ecosphere tent. Going to try inoculating with the bag and see if it’s as good as using jars and going to trays
I’m playing with the idea but being cautious about what I post on TH-cam. I post a lot more about that side of things in our Facebook group. Just search “Colorado Mycology Company” on FB and you should find it!
Did you get fruits from this block? I have one that looks identical to this one.
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@@Comyco I wonder if there is a way to stake the cake like a rotisserie chicken haha so that the bottom can grow from under as well? or just rotate the cake per flush as I am doing but just wondering. it would look cool to have a raised block with mushies all around it like a planet haha
Do you just leave the lid on and let it fruit that way? Just about to do the same. Hoping the holes will be enough for fae
Yes, once I've got the holes covered and the lid latched on with the cake inside, I typically don't touch it until it fruits. Well, aside from the occasional check around nce a week to make sure its hydrated and healthy.
Could the shinyness be coming from the cake being pressed against the bag?
That's quite likely. Now that it's been in it's new home for a few days, it looks exactly how you'd want it to :)
Can you take that AOI bag and ad 5 lbs bomrbag to that container and colonize the entir4e tub then fruit it
?
I wouldn’t recommend that. You don’t want any grain that’s not yet colonized to be exposed to outside environmental conditions. Contamination would be likely.
@@Comyco What i meant was, can i add the AIO to a brand new sterilized boomer bag and put in the mono tub with all the holes covered and let colonize the entire tub for more yield than just the bag? ARE YOU saying adding the spawn to boomer bag or any substrate will be risky to contamination if i kept in warmer conditions.
Hey man if you have a couple of shoe boxes, can you break this all in one grow bag up and just pack it in the shoebox. Mini monotub shit? Or would yoi jist wanna leave the block intact?
I have heard it is best to keep it all in tact distilled water wash perlite and layer bottom of chamber or tub with it then lay down foil to sit your cake on - watch Rookies all in one bag grow. I also am trying it with booming acres 5lb magic bags and Myccos envy genetics
I have heard that it will not increase your yield unless when you do break the all in one grow bag up that you combine it with a veryyyyyy clean bulk substrate. only will increasae yield by adding surface areas meaning more substrate and you will have to wait to have your bag broken up stuff colonize the bulk substrate which can be a window of contams. Booming acres told me to fruit all on one bags on top a foil liner over perlite for max yield all in one bag. If you want max yield not all in one bag look up rookie mycologist - he has a max yield bin video using north spore start to finish. You don’t want any grain that’s not yet colonized to be exposed to outside environmental conditions so I would not do it outside the cake. Recommend using liquid cultures for now on though.
@@saeawn that what caused me so many issues, just way too many variables i would rather skip for my personal medicine growth.
are these magic mushies ?
What do you do about light ? Does it get light through the tub?
Light can get through the tub just fine. Ambient room lighting should be fine. If you want to take advantage of the phototropic effect and get them to grow in a certain direction, I'd recommend pointing a light directly above. I usually just let them do their thing with no special lighting treatment though.
Do all holes stay taped till harvest? And are u fanning daily or at all¿
I like to keep them taped until harvest. I’m using micropore tape here. I haven’t needed to fan at all up to this point. If I see too much fuzziness, I’ll start to fan later on.
If your FAE is good you don't need to fan.
Before Yoshi Amano's channel got taken down he had just got some tubs from Microppose. Think he was showcasing the medium size 🤔
Anyway, I asked a similar question and he'd replied that keeping the holes covered (which allows for the build-up of CO2) until fruiting was antiquated and that he had not seen any difference between that and leaving the filter patches (or micropore tape) on through the entire process.
Hope this helps 🤷
How can you do another flush inside the chamber without the bag?
After the first flush, I'd recommend putting the block into a bowl of cold water for 4-6 hours to rehydrate the mycelium. Stick it back in the chamber and wait for round two :)
Bro how did it go? I see no update videos?
It went great! I don't post fruiting content though.
So how did it go? How did this tub do???
It went well! Here is one update video if you'd like to see: facebook.com/601170763/videos/1336268207093323/
So i inoculated 2 bags..And they both have green spots among the white mycelium..Is that normal?
That is very normal but not in a good way. It means that your bags have been contaminated and another fungus is growing on the grain. Green is a classic sign of trichoderma. Sorry :(
@Comyco ok so are they completely ruined? Can you spot treat it some how?
@@user-yc2xu4ys1s you can try but trichoderma is vicious. I'd recommend just starting over.
@Comyco damn that sucks. So does this mean it got infected while I was inoculating the bags, or is it possible the bags were already infected
@@user-yc2xu4ys1s this is quickly becoming a classic question in mycology. Its hard to say. Usually trich only takes 4-7 days before it shows up and turns green though. So if your bags were fine for a long time before you inoculated, it was probably an error in sterile procedure.
Step drill bit, the bit you cut your holes with that's what it's called
Thank you!
I recently had to deal with fungus gnats 🤮
They're the worst :(
Great video. Just some constructive criticism. Did you really have to show how you covered EACH HOLE with tape? One or two would have been sufficient and it would probably cut a few minutes off of your post.
Puppy pads are also more plastic and trash, unfortunately. 😢🤷♀️
I know compromise needs to happen. Please don't jump down my throat (commenters). 🥺🥺🥺 We also can't get better in any area if we conveniently "forget" that "better" is a goal. That's all. Also, he mentioned in the video that he IS concerned with environmental impact (not those words, but that message). So I'm NOT trying to "preach", ok?🤞
Edit: I didn't post this originally because I honestly do not have much experience. Question for those who do, though - what about a small, non-linty cloth like a cloth diaper pad that's been soaked in hydrogen peroxide or something similar? Wash and sanitize between uses?
I've actually thought of trying this myself and might, with a bit more experience. For now, I've just been sticking with a humid environment and/or perlite, though.
Maybe? What do you all with experience think?
Thanks!
me injected some *melmac monster penis envy* liquid culture a few days ago , into brown rice (setilized 90 minutes at 121 Celsius).
It was two bags , one of them had contam :( the other one smells good .
Now i have a question . can i use only Coco for Bulk , or do i have to add vermiculite and Gypsom ?
Because im kind of a *broke boy* and this stuff is expensive 2 me .
(sorry for bad english)
Nice Vid.
you can use coco for bulk. Watch The Rookie Mycologist's grow videos or Eazy Blue Thumb
@@NotWatchingTV I agree 100%. That was the first channel I found when I decided I want to grow on my own and I learned a ton