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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 27 ธ.ค. 2024
- Flying out the F104 Starfighter in 9.3 after the BR change!
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Facing these things in a Sabre or the Ki-200 is absolutely horrifying. There’s always at least 4 enemy ones in every game I played.
If they'd just give the F-104s their realistic countermeasures and armament, there'd be no issue. It's truly sad how bad they did the American 104s.
From what I understand the f104a and c dont have countermeasures and didn't use any better missles. These are the versions used by the USAF. So can you explain what is missing from both these versions?
@@breakaway414 F-104A can get 2x AIM-9D (when the navy operated the A), and the 104C can get up to 4x AIM-9E (fuselage mounted)
@@therealavenger3537 thnx for the answer. A navy f104a would probably not be added or it would move to a other side of the tech tree. And 4 aim-9es would help but then it should probably go back to 9.7br. I dont like the mach 2 jets being at 9.3 but the br range is really bad for a very long time.
@@breakaway414 the 104A already has the skin, and it's pretty much already in game.
I don't see a navy F-104A with AIM-9D making it to the main tree, not only it was a minor operator of the plane but also it wouldn't really be needed if they gave the F-104C the 4xAIM-9E loadout, at .3 BR higher than the A.
Being honest, the 104C almost never carried the fuselage missile pylons, it's even debatable if it ever carried them in active service, not just in test flights. It's even more debatable if it ever carried the AIM-9E while in USAF service, but it certainly did with the ANG, so I'm ok with that.
One of DFYN's squad mates ("Razor") has unreal dogfights using the G variant. I wonder if he uses sim controls to get that type of maneuverability; because its unreal what he can do in a 104.
Sim control makes any plane insane but you have to be a sweaty virgin to use it in air rb
Is there footage of this or just in defyns video?
@@GamingCheeto Yeah, I'm just referring to footage seen in DEFYN's videos.
He abuses FM of F104 since it cant "superstall" in WT like it does in DCS
F104 can fully extend flaps below M0.8 and turn pretty sharply, combine that with an excellent roll rate and you can make some reversal with it (it's not that easy, but with habit, it's doable)
I love flying the F-104A in sim. Because it's fast, radar has IFF, 2×aim-9b are good enough. Also M61 cannons are nice.
ooh yeahh totally agree and moreover you climb in a blink
Free kills for phantons 🥰
The best 9.3 is the A-4N together with the ariete.
Why the a4n?
@@yajamanvamsikrishna509 AIM-9Ds and Shafrir 2s.
@@ephealtun and the best engine, actually I can dominante the furball in the A-4N as good as an F-5E in his better momments, I can do a Dogfight against the entire furball in the ariete and in the A-4N, but tbh the ariete is a lot better than the A-4N in terms of flight performance.
Wow this video came out at the perfect timing. Just researched both of the 9’3 104’s thank you!
idk why they screwed the american 104s up so bad
they should also add more to the tree
like the NF-104a and F-104A with the upgraded J-79 engine used on the italian F-104S
and many many more
A rare case when a plane is equally trash in game and IRL
@@lapantony leave my beloved lawn dart alone
i played it many games but its litteraly the same problem, uptiers ( like 1 downtier a game out of 10 ), s, still need to deal with mig 21 and su 25 R60m and long range missiles, with no flares, in downtier its really more fun and enjoyable but rare....
with a 15k repair cost also*
In light of the f104a moving down can someone tell me why the milan is still 9.7, make it make sense
also on another note snail give us more century series fighters please F-101, F-102 and F-106 maybe the XF-108 rapier concept could be a thing as well and the odd looking F-107 prototype
Tell me a good reason why the F-104J is still at 10.7
And the Chinese F-104G
Vulcan at 9.3 is crazy with all those crap guns at that BR bracket you can head-on anyone and the missiles are crap enough that you can easily dodge them if you avoid 10.0
Yes a far away “shart” can always help you. If it wasn’t in your pants, it’s a good shart.
I sware I was having to fight 104 and mig 21 constantly with a plane with no missles or afterburners is almost impossible
I do recommend you think about what you want to say
I really like the pencil. But it's funny that you can turn with the pencil at 14 g but not with f16. It's curious
Is there possibility that in the future developer might plan add another fighter aircraft 9.7-10.0 better F-104A/F-104C (USAF) & F-104A (ROCAF) ?
Nope
@@skytron22 But I guess after F-104 might be F-101B Voodoo & F-106A Delta Dart in rank 6 for USA tech tree
@@SuwatWatjinda my god, I’ll be beyond surprised if gaijin even bothers to do that. Should’ve been added ages ago. Would fill out tier v and vi at least
it faces Ki200s on the big maps now - yeah, alright…
and sabres are same battle rank…yeah. alright…
honestly there aren't enough radar missiles at this BR to warrant the RWR and the extra 5k SL repair cost of the 104c, i just fly out the 104A. You _STILL_ get shoved into matches with F5C pilots who have no idea what they're doing and you _still_ get clubbed the second you find yourself anywhere near an A5 or an SPSK or an Su25k - read, the entire composition of every team you'll face in this thing.
Imagine thinking the F104 at 9.3 isn't balanced when the MIG21 SPS-K exists at 9.3 w/ R-60's & R3-R's and the AV-8A at 9.3 with AIM 9J's
And t-2 without countermeasures with 9.7 br)
@@gr1n_dee Hey don't forget the F-1 and Japanese F-104 at 10.3 and 10.7 with no flares and shit turn times.
@@Thebaconmurderer they too... Gaijin hates jap jets)
Av8a is 9.7 and but ok buddy pal
And doesnt the AV8 have Aim-9Gs?
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I love this plane
The F-100 is also pretty okay at 9.3 supersonic, good guns, and pretty good maneuverability, also being able to lead the aim-9Es help just a bit
The reason the F-104A and the like got moved to 9.3 is because of the insane amount of All-Aspect High-G missiles it faces with no flares from planes like Su-25 and A-10 which, for the weapons they carry, are way too low a BR. There is a reason everyone was cheering back when this thing was first moved from 9.7 to 10.0 years ago. That's because at the time, it was a fucking tyrant. Now it's at an even lower BR than the one it was introduced at. 8.3's can do nothing to fight it except pray the F-104 pilot is an idiot. The BR's have just been getting perpetually more compressed. We need at least 13.0 BR for the health of the game.
O f104 gira bem, mas não curva.
i had one of these get into my 8.3 match my entire team could do nothing against him non of us could catch him and he clipped my wing with a single vulcan round that ended my match not surprisingly we lost
Yeah the f104 is quite strong in a downtier. Unfortunately, it’s not great in an uptier which is where it endow up most of the time
The US F104A and C only have one advantage, that being their speed. So at 9.3, I think it's ok still
a4n lowkey op gonna be honest, prob the best 9.3
9.7 again so it's obviously gonna face 11.3
I hate these planes with a passion, being a low-er tier jet and seeing one of these things that knows even remotely what they need to do is just a crapshoot. They're impossible to get a shot on, making them overshoot is a dangerous game and by the time you get your guns on target. This thing has run over the border to the next match.
They need to make the F4C 10.3.
Great bombload
However
There are multiple faster aircraft in the 10.3-9.7 Sim bracket
It isnt the most manoeuvrable
It has no countermeasures
Its radar is soooo bad
Its missiles are the norm at that BR.
F4C at 10.3 lmfaooooooo
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My opinion, move all mach cable jets to 9.7 or 10.0 and give them counter measures (accuracy doesn't really matter at this point) and remove the all aspects from a10 and su25 and give them 'worse' missiles like r60 or r13 (idk) and aim9j or (again idk I don't play USA or Russia, I play china)
Його кидає на 9.3 рідко переважно грає він на 9.7-10.3 як що на ньому добре грати а як шо ідуть програші і смерті то раз в 5-8 матчів кидає на бр 9.3-8.3……і дальше по новій страдання проти всеракурсних ракет
this plane is useless most of the time, so they can actually move it lower. In my opinion this plane should get flares and it would change this plane the most. I have triet do grind usa with this, I have got some nice battles but when su25 or any missile carrier is near you, you are 90% dead. You have no chance of dodging r60m. You arent even that fast nowadays.
Cry in italian F-104
Still not that good IMO
yeah itll still get uptiered
It has radar, so it’s fine.
The F5C is Premium 10.0 BUT it only has 2 of the worst missiles in the game, no radar at all(only RWR), and mediocre flight performance. ALL the aircraft it fights against have radar. It is pretty unfair. Can’t use it in Simulator battles at all, which is why I even bought it. I wanted to fly a jet in Simulator with my HOTAS. Biggest waste of 50 something dollars I’ve ever spent. Only upside is the SL boost. Even that doesn’t make up for how crap it is.
This has got to be the biggest skill issue ive ever seen
Ain’t no way bro called the f104 fine and the f5c bad
Buy the F-5 in DCS it’s a peak experience especially with HOTAS mapped.
If you're not dumb F104 cant shoot you down but you cant shoot him down too
It's ok at 9.3
People just forgot that ARB isnt a deathmatch ! You can win game by destroying these weird thing with wheels and guns that sits on the ground ! Or these weird red circles things