Eh... I want to support the guy, but for what this gun cost, versus all the BETTER options on the market, I just can't see this living a long life. 625 bucks for an optic cut version? Yeah... I hate it for the guy, but this is dead in the water in my opinion.
4:54 I’ve carried more that one gun at the same time. I used to carry my First Gen Shield with a spare mag, and a Ruger LCP II in my pocket with a spare mag in my other.
@@v.german11b 🤣 I never said any of that. My point is simple: People looking for a decent affordable pistol can spend $300-$400 for a Canik, Shield plus, Mossberg or countless others that are proven. $600 for a new and unproven single stack pistol is laughable in 2023. It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. I own many pistols, but no Hi Points. If you don’t already own one, you should go man bra shopping. You could get black eyes from them if you ran down your stairs to fast. Your comprehension skills are seriously lacking gramps…
@@luckymanham302 😆 Unproven? But of course! Time will tell. Affordable? You bet yours! My favorite? Oh no, my very favorite lineup of handguns are from Walther GmbH, Canik, CZ, and Sig Sauer, albeit I own an assorted number of other manufacturings and models, like, say, the *Stoeger STR-9S Combat,* one of the best hidden secrets out there.
Yeah its a compromise .. But giving up rounds for a g19 size is a dumb one .. Just makes no sense its a cool gun but the idea of a great carry gun is silly .. I have single stack for summer 9 rounds and way smaller then this ..and with my pinkie extension I get a whole hand on ..XL gives are my size and tight so normal make sized hand .. Makes no sense what's being sold .. Its a marketing play. Again if I own 7 guns it be cool to own and shoot but if your looking for 1 carry gun there's 25 others Better in this size
@@GBGuns It has a fair bit of similarities. The tiny slide release, the pointy take down nubs, the back cover plate shows that the trigger mechanism has some similarities also. I'm sure the gun is totally fine, and I'm glad this guy put together something he thought would be useful, but I don't see it bringing much to the table.
Would probably be a great option if msrp was around $400 or so, but at over $600 this won’t compete. Too many name brand pistols with more capacity and track record. I’m going to sound like a beat record and say to little to late. I commented on that about this gun years ago on one of Robs videos and he didn’t like it. Seems I was right. They took too long to bring this gun to market. I’m still interested to see how it shoots though.
I was waiting for this PD10 for quite a few years and I understand they have to make money considering it's been in the works for about 10 years but yes that MSRP is quite high compared to what's available ...
Me when stopped for a motor vehicle violation. Cop - Do you have any weapons in the car? Me - No, only computer peripherals. Cop - What's in that holster? Me - That's my USB cable organizer with its case.
Rob seems like a nice enough guy, and I'm sure he's a good instructor but every product he's been attached to that I've ever encountered was sub par compared to the market at large. This feels like more of the same
Eh, it's about 9yrs too late unfortunately for Rob. I would consider looking at one, depending on the $$$, but I think this is....again, unfortunately.....going to bomb because it's not optics ready, and everyone and their grandmothers are bloody obsessed with dot sights nowadays. It looks like a Bersa ironically. Another gun that fell into obscurity despite it being a pretty dependable pistol. Looking forward to its performance on the range!
@@alejandrovargas7592 It costs more to make so it costs more to the consumer. Guns that come with an optics-mounting solution "standard" are priced higher than they would be if an option without an optics cut existed.
Is this a test gun that was sent to several reviewers? The barrel has a lot of wear on the exterior of the hood and the feed ramp area. There's a lot to like here. So many great features in both being thin/compact and strength. It make me want to try this one out. However, the trigger is a deal breaker. That long take up followed by a long pull that appears a little stagey and then a break all the way at the frame is just awful for a gun produced in 2023. That would have been marginally OK in 2003 but not today. I know I can be a bit of a trigger snob but the trigger is what connects YOU to the firing of the gun. The on switch is the most important part of training accurate, repeatable combat and/or target shooting
Graham are you buddies with Rob and that’s why you’re giving this such a positive review? Anyone with have a brain can see that this is an obsolete design. Because it was designed pre p365.
I consider Rob a friend, but that has nothing to do with my assessment of this firearm. The build matches his intent very well. This is a gun that can be carried AND trained with. I've yet to see anyone willingly run a microcompact in a training course. Micro co.pact magazines are no fun to load and guns of the 365 size are difficult to spend a full day of training with.
@@GBGuns my p365xl I have no issues shooting 200 rounds in one day with. it’s also better for concealment because it has a shorter grip. So let’s take the p365 macro. The new one without the comp. The slide is the same width which is the part that matters sense it’s what goes in your waist band . grip is .1 inches wider. Gives you 17 rounds, what I’d assume has better texture from the looks of the p10, Less likely to cause accidental slide lock (issue with most Glock style pistols) 10 times more modularity and after market support, much better mag well for reloading, the price is a little more but comes with 4 mags ( why only 2 mags with the p10 if it’s to train with out of the box). why is the thing on the p10 mag shaped like that? If it’s for stripping mags why isn’t it shaped like a finger stop. Who still uses an xd style loaded chamber indicator? Used single stack carry guns don’t sell so why would this? If this came out in 2017 it would have been a decent option. But it’s 6 years too late.
@@RobPincusPro I’d say in this situation his friendship with you is clouding his judgement. But what he should have done is tell you this is a bad idea to bring this gun out. As for a single stack yes they are obsolete. When you can gain 7 more rounds by adding .1” to a grip and the grip still isn’t wider than the slide there’s no reason not to take that trade off. Hence why that’s what sells today. I also prefer guns that hold more than 10 round’s because for some reason that’s the anti gunners magic # that they want to limit us too.
It looks like a gun which may be lackluster on the spec charts, but a winner in the hand. The block on the rear of the recoil spring looks like it'd do a good job of dumping slide energy directly into that beefy locking block. Also looks like the grip is set up to do that thing with pushing into the web of your hand (Archon B?) to tighten your grip. Square dot front sight looks interesting, too. Looking fwd to What's For Dinner...
I think the story of Avidity Arms is how a bad marketing/media campaign can ruin a good gun design. I like the gun and the concept. But, with decades of hints, teases, and "I get to shoot the PD10 and you can't" videos, AA pretty much killed off any enthusiasm that the gun world had for it. And it was one of many factors that hurt Rob Pincus' reputation over the years. When Glock beats your company to the "innovation" of a single-stack, polymer-frame 9mm carry gun, then your company really needs to take a hard look in the mirror. Looking forward to the range review. I'd also like to see you try other 9mm 1911 mags and get some trigger weight measurements, if possible.
Curios about the thickness of the Pd10 compared to the gen 2 Delta. Other than my shield, my Delta x is the thinnest gun I own. I was really surprised how much a difference that made when carrying it. It conceals easier than almost all my other carry guns & I still have a 4 in barrel & plenty of capacity. Looking forward to the shooting impressions of the Pd10.
This would be a great gun if you live in the 10 round max commie states! For me, just not a fan, don't care how good it shoots! I can conceal carry a double stack as easily as I could a single stack.
Good video as usual. I used to be a big time follower of Rob Pincus. I bought his books and videos. I subscribed to his channel for a couple years. He's incorrect when he says that some people don't understand his comments. I think most do.
Absolutely "most do".... Sadly, some noisy voices who feel kinda betrayed by the fact that my work goes beyond gun rights rhetoric spend a lot of time misrepresenting my positions or denigrating my work because it isn't simplistic. That's okay. Regardless, I'm glad you found value in the training material !
I thought I read somewhere online that this can take 1911 9mm magazines, they look similar minus the base pad... is this true? Try some during the what's for dinner test?
No doubt that if you knew you were going to be in a shoot out you'd take the best shooting pistol you own. I own 8 9mm pistols of every size from a P365 to an XDM with a 5" barrel. But for every day convenience I pocket carry an LCP2. It is so thin, small and lightweight that you literally have to feel for the pistol to make sure it's there. Love it for that as it feels like your carrying nothing but still have the same stopping power of ANY pistol caliber (see The Best Handgun Caliber - A Real World Study). When I feel like more accuracy may be needed I'll slip in my pocket my P365 which shoots quite well at IDPA & ASI competitions. I'd love to see a comparison video of the Shield Plus 4" ported barrel with the PD10 as my Shield Plus is one of my best accurate shooting pistols, but my P365 & P365XL aren't to far behind. (My 2nd Gen P10 C is even slightly more accurate but I consider it to be a full size pistol).
A gun designed by an instructor seems to be something new. Looking at almost all pistol hammers I suspect no gun designer on earth knows how to uncock a pistol. Looking at my pistol's hammer I am 100% sure Taurus doesn't know why the hammer spur have those small grooves. Impossible not to recall many chinese pistols on forgotten weapons with a solid rear sight just shaped like an adjustable rear sight.
He took so many years developing this that the market came and passed him. I've owned my Glock 48 for more than 3 yrs. I question his selection of a magazine that was adapted from one made for a longer cartridge. While McCormick and Wilson magazines work ,the 9mm Colt magazines were always known for being problem feeders.
Arex delta, g43, p365 macro, hellcat pro. These all come witg choices like optics cut, double stack, threaded barrels etc. There is no place for this other than in Forgotten Weapons with Ian.
Sucks for Rob, but I think you're right. People are too red dot obsessed to handle a gun with steel sights. Maybe if he invented a Time Machine and went back 7 years this gun would be a good contender.
I for one am not a big fan of gadgets. They're for kids and poosies. A CC gun is for CONCEALED CARRY. Why do you want to make your little gun as big as your couch. Don't make no good sense. I can see it on a duty gun or a RANGE TOY. I say practice, learn how to point shoot the weapon you have. Then your not tearing the door frame in your car,and you don't have to steal the battery out of your old lady's pocket rocket when yours goes dead from fiddle fooking it all the time. Also those fake cop lights on top your Pontiac sunbird ain't fooling nobody.
@@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG Honestly I think there is still some people who will buy this. People still carry 9mm 1911's, and this is just that, but less expensive, lighter, (maybe more reliable) with the ability to mount optics, a light, and maybe a suppressor if they want. You still got folks who carry revolvers with only 5 rounds. So Yeah I think some people will buy this. Not as meany as if it took 15 round shield mags, but some. It's defiantly enough gun for 99.999% of all defensive encounters. (Says the guy who carries a Glock 19 "fully stuffed" as Graham would put it, with two 21 round spare mags. Even though he's just going to walk around his house, and sit in a recliner all day 🤣LOL No one ever regretted bring too much ammo to a gun fight.
Pistols a a big compromise on capability in the name of portablility. It's easy to wear a pistol so we do. Do civilians ever pistol-fight back to a rifle or shotgun? I doubt it, but the maxim remains that a pistol is not the end-all, be-all.
I've carried more then one gun at one time. I used to regularly carry a revolver on my ankle in a boot holster with my primary on my hip at 4 O'clock. I did it because I spent a lot of time in a vehicle, and couldn't reach my primary easily while seated, but I could reach my ankle without issue.
1 year since this video was made, I have never seen nor heard of this gun. Only reason I am here is because it was a recommended video. Could not find it in stock in any major online gun shop, $600 was the price on most sites even though it was not in stock.
@@GBGuns Lie to me and say that takedown is not Glock like. That the ramp angle on the tilt of the barrel is not reminiscent of Glock gen 3. That the trigger bar to striker is not very similar to a Glock. If I am way off, where did the thought or idea to design this gun come from? Only thing not Glock-ish is the magazine.
The takedown is similar, but the BROWNING action is as most semi auto have been since before Glock. The internal construction is different, but yes it's striker-fired. Pause the video at the exploded diagram, or pull it from the website.
I kinda understand how people who don't really look into it get confused by the fact that (5 years ago) Avidity Arms with aligned with the company that imported Bersa firearms. Without doing any research, one might leap to "it's a Bersa".... apparently.
Price and availability is in the linked press release. We don't mention prices on here anymore because TH-cam then accuses us of trying to sell things (which we don't)
Looks like an intelligently designed firearm. Everything needed and considered with nothing else. Just needs to be optic ready with optic height sights as excellent as these are.
My understanding is that the single stack could be very thin and easy thus easy to conceal while also accommodating a wide variety of hand sizes and shapes. Whether this helps it compete with the micro compact double stacks remains to be seen.
Yawn another Glock clone!!!!!! I can see owner Glock laughing all way grave some day when die because ever one trying make better mose trap yet keep cone his gun.
California might be one of the few places this pistol sold… Citizens of free states have far too many choices with almost double the capacity and at hundreds of dollars cheaper. I just don’t see it. It’s like buying a Kahr in 2023…
Do you like G-Code holsters? I've never tried them. I primarily use Vedder but also like Muddy River Tactical and Tulster holsters. All 3 have a lightning quick turnaround. I think I checked out G-Code but something turned me away. Can't remember but maybe it was a very long wait period.
We've not tried them before. One thing I have learned is not all holsters are equal, even from the same maker when it comes to different gun models. New gun means openly looking into new holsters. For example I've used CrossBreed for my K100 and liked the first one, but the second one, and one for the 365XL is not the same cant, height, etc.
I appreciate the notification of this upload shittube… Bro, I cannot stand the shadow banning of firearm channels. But you just keep on keepin on with what you do my good friend, top notch content since the ol zenith 1911 customs with the red lunchboxes… the good old times..
Thank you. A good way to know what's on the channel without relying on TH-cam is our website GBGunsDepot.com. We typically post their before publishing here, and post the complete review so you don't have to wait. There we're free to include links, and also list specs and pricing. The only folks who get to see things sooner than that are our Patrons.
I was totally liking this when I thought the 10 part of the name meant 10mm but when I found out it was 9mm no longer interested. I'm over 9mm it would be nice for guns to be made in real calibers more often
@@GBGuns No sir it hasn't, I've just seen too many cop mag dump videos hitting suspect 10+ times with a 9mm and they continue to run off. 9mm penetration is my issue, seems to just punch holes and not stop in target in real world applications. Only reason people flock to 9mm so much is bc the FBI and cops use it but that's just bc they can't shoot and have no recoil control. It's not a more effective round it's a more controllable round
@@timjohnson8390 That sounds like an ammunition choice issue. People flock to 9mm because it's the most popular handgun cartridge in the world; making it more affordable and readily available.
Press Release with Specs and more information: www.gbgunsdepot.com/post/the-avidity-arms-pd10-is-here
I like the look of this gun.. looks well made and reliable ! You will always have tidy USB cables to ..👍👍
I was interested some years back...now not so much.
Eh... I want to support the guy, but for what this gun cost, versus all the BETTER options on the market, I just can't see this living a long life. 625 bucks for an optic cut version?
Yeah... I hate it for the guy, but this is dead in the water in my opinion.
This was really interesting 5++ years ago when it was first thought of, before the 365.
4:54 I’ve carried more that one gun at the same time. I used to carry my First Gen Shield with a spare mag, and a Ruger LCP II in my pocket with a spare mag in my other.
Looks to be really solidly made!
Good option for capacity limited states and hopefully it is on/will get on CA roster. It could do very well there
Thanks for the video
I can't think of what this gun might have that's so special. Seems like just another Glock 48 clone.
Very nice handgun. It will compite with the affordable good quality line of 9mm pistols.
It costs about twice as much as many “affordable quality pistols”. This pistol is destined to be a flop.
@@luckymanham302 $600 for an Avidity Arms pd10 is unaffordable to you? You must be a Hi-Point kind of guy.
@@v.german11b 🤣 I never said any of that. My point is simple: People looking for a decent affordable pistol can spend $300-$400 for a Canik, Shield plus, Mossberg or countless others that are proven. $600 for a new and unproven single stack pistol is laughable in 2023. It’s a solution to a problem that doesn’t exist. I own many pistols, but no Hi Points. If you don’t already own one, you should go man bra shopping. You could get black eyes from them if you ran down your stairs to fast. Your comprehension skills are seriously lacking gramps…
@@luckymanham302 😆 Unproven? But of course! Time will tell.
Affordable? You bet yours!
My favorite? Oh no, my very favorite lineup of handguns are from Walther GmbH, Canik, CZ, and Sig Sauer, albeit I own an assorted number of other manufacturings and models, like, say, the *Stoeger STR-9S Combat,* one of the best hidden secrets out there.
@@v.german11b you can get a Glock 19 Gen 5 for under $600. you can also get a Beretta 92FS or a CZ 75 jnder $600
Looks like a mix between a Ruger, Steyr, Arex, & with a Springfield grip?
Does this pistol actually exist or is it vaporware?
Looks like you can get a higher grip than 'normal'.
It does have a deep tang.
@@GBGuns that's what *he* said
@rob6850 when I was instructing I always told my students the best grip is as deep and high in the tang as you can go.
I have an excel file with about fourty glock based pistols, the last update was done in 2022. Striker fired are just booooooooooring!
lol someone rips one at 9:43 lol
You need new speakers or headphones.
Yeah its a compromise .. But giving up rounds for a g19 size is a dumb one .. Just makes no sense its a cool gun but the idea of a great carry gun is silly .. I have single stack for summer 9 rounds and way smaller then this ..and with my pinkie extension I get a whole hand on ..XL gives are my size and tight so normal make sized hand .. Makes no sense what's being sold .. Its a marketing play. Again if I own 7 guns it be cool to own and shoot but if your looking for 1 carry gun there's 25 others Better in this size
I agree with the.other about cost .. If its 300$ street ok .. P10s or solid single stacks under 359$ .. But 600 is bonkers
another glock clone, only this time with diminished capacity. meh...
Ypu must have missed the internals and the exploded diagram. Not much Glock about this.
@@GBGuns It has a fair bit of similarities. The tiny slide release, the pointy take down nubs, the back cover plate shows that the trigger mechanism has some similarities also.
I'm sure the gun is totally fine, and I'm glad this guy put together something he thought would be useful, but I don't see it bringing much to the table.
Single stack and no optics cut in 2023 ? I can get a Arex Delta M , G48 or P365 XL or Shield Plus . Why choose this over any of those ?
If you read the release or listened to the video you'd know optics cut is an option.
@@GBGuns
...for an MSRP of 625 bucks.
Eh... That's going to be hard to swallow.
Would probably be a great option if msrp was around $400 or so, but at over $600 this won’t compete. Too many name brand pistols with more capacity and track record. I’m going to sound like a beat record and say to little to late. I commented on that about this gun years ago on one of Robs videos and he didn’t like it. Seems I was right. They took too long to bring this gun to market. I’m still interested to see how it shoots though.
I was waiting for this PD10 for quite a few years and I understand they have to make money considering it's been in the works for about 10 years but yes that MSRP is quite high compared to what's available ...
Me when stopped for a motor vehicle violation.
Cop - Do you have any weapons in the car?
Me - No, only computer peripherals.
Cop - What's in that holster?
Me - That's my USB cable organizer with its case.
Rob seems like a nice enough guy, and I'm sure he's a good instructor but every product he's been attached to that I've ever encountered was sub par compared to the market at large. This feels like more of the same
Examples ?
Eh, it's about 9yrs too late unfortunately for Rob. I would consider looking at one, depending on the $$$, but I think this is....again, unfortunately.....going to bomb because it's not optics ready, and everyone and their grandmothers are bloody obsessed with dot sights nowadays. It looks like a Bersa ironically. Another gun that fell into obscurity despite it being a pretty dependable pistol. Looking forward to its performance on the range!
They have an optics ready model.
@@GBGuns Oh, I didn't hear you say that. I might have to rewatch it then. I'd still shoot it, but I'm a steel sights guy anyways.
@@GBGuns hopefully they aren't going to try gouging you extra for the O.R. option. It should be bog standard for any new firearm, as of 2023.
@@alejandrovargas7592 It costs more to make so it costs more to the consumer. Guns that come with an optics-mounting solution "standard" are priced higher than they would be if an option without an optics cut existed.
Is this a test gun that was sent to several reviewers? The barrel has a lot of wear on the exterior of the hood and the feed ramp area. There's a lot to like here. So many great features in both being thin/compact and strength. It make me want to try this one out. However, the trigger is a deal breaker. That long take up followed by a long pull that appears a little stagey and then a break all the way at the frame is just awful for a gun produced in 2023. That would have been marginally OK in 2003 but not today. I know I can be a bit of a trigger snob but the trigger is what connects YOU to the firing of the gun. The on switch is the most important part of training accurate, repeatable combat and/or target shooting
Graham are you buddies with Rob and that’s why you’re giving this such a positive review? Anyone with have a brain can see that this is an obsolete design. Because it was designed pre p365.
I consider Rob a friend, but that has nothing to do with my assessment of this firearm. The build matches his intent very well. This is a gun that can be carried AND trained with. I've yet to see anyone willingly run a microcompact in a training course. Micro co.pact magazines are no fun to load and guns of the 365 size are difficult to spend a full day of training with.
@@GBGuns my p365xl I have no issues shooting 200 rounds in one day with. it’s also better for concealment because it has a shorter grip. So let’s take the p365 macro. The new one without the comp. The slide is the same width which is the part that matters sense it’s what goes in your waist band . grip is .1 inches wider. Gives you 17 rounds, what I’d assume has better texture from the looks of the p10, Less likely to cause accidental slide lock (issue with most Glock style pistols) 10 times more modularity and after market support, much better mag well for reloading, the price is a little more but comes with 4 mags ( why only 2 mags with the p10 if it’s to train with out of the box). why is the thing on the p10 mag shaped like that? If it’s for stripping mags why isn’t it shaped like a finger stop. Who still uses an xd style loaded chamber indicator? Used single stack carry guns don’t sell so why would this? If this came out in 2017 it would have been a decent option. But it’s 6 years too late.
Is the insinuation that Graham has no integrity or that guns too thin for "stagger stack" have no place.... or both ?
@@RobPincusPro I’d say in this situation his friendship with you is clouding his judgement. But what he should have done is tell you this is a bad idea to bring this gun out. As for a single stack yes they are obsolete. When you can gain 7 more rounds by adding .1” to a grip and the grip still isn’t wider than the slide there’s no reason not to take that trade off. Hence why that’s what sells today. I also prefer guns that hold more than 10 round’s because for some reason that’s the anti gunners magic # that they want to limit us too.
@@jpk9171jpk You can't add 7 more rounds by adding .1" to the grip.... your premise is flawed.
It looks like a gun which may be lackluster on the spec charts, but a winner in the hand.
The block on the rear of the recoil spring looks like it'd do a good job of dumping slide energy directly into that beefy locking block.
Also looks like the grip is set up to do that thing with pushing into the web of your hand (Archon B?) to tighten your grip.
Square dot front sight looks interesting, too.
Looking fwd to What's For Dinner...
I thought this gun was dead, with rumors of a PD11?
It is... They just haven't realized it yet. 🤣
I think the story of Avidity Arms is how a bad marketing/media campaign can ruin a good gun design. I like the gun and the concept. But, with decades of hints, teases, and "I get to shoot the PD10 and you can't" videos, AA pretty much killed off any enthusiasm that the gun world had for it. And it was one of many factors that hurt Rob Pincus' reputation over the years. When Glock beats your company to the "innovation" of a single-stack, polymer-frame 9mm carry gun, then your company really needs to take a hard look in the mirror.
Looking forward to the range review. I'd also like to see you try other 9mm 1911 mags and get some trigger weight measurements, if possible.
Five years to late ! Obsolete !
Agreed, arex delta, g43, p365 macro, take your pick.
@@Gl0ckb1te don't forget Shield Plus, Canik Mete MC9, Taurus GX4 etc 😆 it's a crowded field
A field crowded with guns that cost considerable amount less... MSRP on the p10 with optic cut is 625 bucks.
Yeah. Too bad.
Is it a gun? Does it shoot? Then it isn't obsolete. A gun is a gun is a gun.
Curios about the thickness of the Pd10 compared to the gen 2 Delta. Other than my shield, my Delta x is the thinnest gun I own. I was really surprised how much a difference that made when carrying it. It conceals easier than almost all my other carry guns & I still have a 4 in barrel & plenty of capacity. Looking forward to the shooting impressions of the Pd10.
All it takes is math
PD10 is 20% thinner.
Exact same size as a P365 XMacro with 7rds LESS capacity, unnecessary boomer features and it probably doesnt work 👍
This would be a great gun if you live in the 10 round max commie states! For me, just not a fan, don't care how good it shoots! I can conceal carry a double stack as easily as I could a single stack.
Good video as usual. I used to be a big time follower of Rob Pincus. I bought his books and videos. I subscribed to his channel for a couple years. He's incorrect when he says that some people don't understand his comments. I think most do.
Absolutely "most do".... Sadly, some noisy voices who feel kinda betrayed by the fact that my work goes beyond gun rights rhetoric spend a lot of time misrepresenting my positions or denigrating my work because it isn't simplistic. That's okay. Regardless, I'm glad you found value in the training material !
I thought I read somewhere online that this can take 1911 9mm magazines, they look similar minus the base pad... is this true? Try some during the what's for dinner test?
The magazine bodies are 9mm 1911. I'm not sure about seated height, but we'll try some 9mm 1911 mags.
@@GBGuns thanks for responding, I'll have to watch the shooting impressions and see how it does
Terrible trigger and did I see plastic rear slide guides. I would buy a small Canik personally.
What was your experience with the trigger? No, you did not see plastic rear slide rails. They are steel.
I own a bunch of Caniks... and they are back as our 2023 PDN Tour Sponsor. That said: There are metal rails in the rear also.
No doubt that if you knew you were going to be in a shoot out you'd take the best shooting pistol you own. I own 8 9mm pistols of every size from a P365 to an XDM with a 5" barrel. But for every day convenience I pocket carry an LCP2. It is so thin, small and lightweight that you literally have to feel for the pistol to make sure it's there. Love it for that as it feels like your carrying nothing but still have the same stopping power of ANY pistol caliber (see The Best Handgun Caliber - A Real World Study). When I feel like more accuracy may be needed I'll slip in my pocket my P365 which shoots quite well at IDPA & ASI competitions. I'd love to see a comparison video of the Shield Plus 4" ported barrel with the PD10 as my Shield Plus is one of my best accurate shooting pistols, but my P365 & P365XL aren't to far behind. (My 2nd Gen P10 C is even slightly more accurate but I consider it to be a full size pistol).
A gun designed by an instructor seems to be something new.
Looking at almost all pistol hammers I suspect no gun designer on earth knows how to uncock a pistol.
Looking at my pistol's hammer I am 100% sure Taurus doesn't know why the hammer spur have those small grooves.
Impossible not to recall many chinese pistols on forgotten weapons with a solid rear sight just shaped like an adjustable rear sight.
He took so many years developing this that the market came and passed him. I've owned my Glock 48 for more than 3 yrs. I question his selection of a magazine that was adapted from one made for a longer cartridge. While McCormick and Wilson magazines work ,the 9mm Colt magazines were always known for being problem feeders.
Good thing this isn't a Colt magazine.
looks cheap
How so?
just does. all guns seem to look the same now days or copy of a copy already in existed.@@GBGuns
So do you think it looks cheap or do you think it's a copy? I've not seen another one go together quite like this does.
Arex delta, g43, p365 macro, hellcat pro. These all come witg choices like optics cut, double stack, threaded barrels etc. There is no place for this other than in Forgotten Weapons with Ian.
This also come with options for optics and a threaded barrel.
Sucks for Rob, but I think you're right. People are too red dot obsessed to handle a gun with steel sights. Maybe if he invented a Time Machine and went back 7 years this gun would be a good contender.
I for one am not a big fan of gadgets. They're for kids and poosies. A CC gun is for CONCEALED CARRY. Why do you want to make your little gun as big as your couch. Don't make no good sense. I can see it on a duty gun or a RANGE TOY. I say practice, learn how to point shoot the weapon you have. Then your not tearing the door frame in your car,and you don't have to steal the battery out of your old lady's pocket rocket when yours goes dead from fiddle fooking it all the time. Also those fake cop lights on top your Pontiac sunbird ain't fooling nobody.
@@Kratos_God_of_50_BMG Honestly I think there is still some people who will buy this. People still carry 9mm 1911's, and this is just that, but less expensive, lighter, (maybe more reliable) with the ability to mount optics, a light, and maybe a suppressor if they want. You still got folks who carry revolvers with only 5 rounds. So Yeah I think some people will buy this. Not as meany as if it took 15 round shield mags, but some. It's defiantly enough gun for 99.999% of all defensive encounters. (Says the guy who carries a Glock 19 "fully stuffed" as Graham would put it, with two 21 round spare mags. Even though he's just going to walk around his house, and sit in a recliner all day 🤣LOL No one ever regretted bring too much ammo to a gun fight.
@@Joe5561000 yeah maybe. I do know some people that carry Ruger SP101's with 5 rnds of .357 mag, and they are comfortable with that. To each his own.
"pistols are meant to get you to your rifle"
i think ppl sometimes forget that .
Pistols a a big compromise on capability in the name of portablility. It's easy to wear a pistol so we do. Do civilians ever pistol-fight back to a rifle or shotgun? I doubt it, but the maxim remains that a pistol is not the end-all, be-all.
That seems like a terrible trigger
I've carried more then one gun at one time. I used to regularly carry a revolver on my ankle in a boot holster with my primary on my hip at 4 O'clock. I did it because I spent a lot of time in a vehicle, and couldn't reach my primary easily while seated, but I could reach my ankle without issue.
1 year since this video was made, I have never seen nor heard of this gun. Only reason I am here is because it was a recommended video. Could not find it in stock in any major online gun shop, $600 was the price on most sites even though it was not in stock.
This frame styling is very reminiscent of a Bersa. Is the frame made here, or is it made by BERSA ?
🙄 Made in the USA. Designed in the USA. Not related to Bersa.
@@RobPincusPro very good to hear that.
@@RobPincusPro you can't blame me for asking. I'm very pro American when it comes to purchasing. 🙄🙄🙄🖕
It's a glock....
You're way off, lol
@@GBGuns Lie to me and say that takedown is not Glock like. That the ramp angle on the tilt of the barrel is not reminiscent of Glock gen 3. That the trigger bar to striker is not very similar to a Glock. If I am way off, where did the thought or idea to design this gun come from? Only thing not Glock-ish is the magazine.
The takedown is similar, but the BROWNING action is as most semi auto have been since before Glock. The internal construction is different, but yes it's striker-fired. Pause the video at the exploded diagram, or pull it from the website.
A slightly scaled up Bersa BP9CC in 2023? This is definitely on the future purchase list, after the Hudson H9, of course.
Why bother, arex delta does everything this does but better and its double stack.
@@Gl0ckb1te I think the joke went over your head
I do wish they would bring back the h9 but actually have QC.
The Bersa 380s are nice.
I kinda understand how people who don't really look into it get confused by the fact that (5 years ago) Avidity Arms with aligned with the company that imported Bersa firearms. Without doing any research, one might leap to "it's a Bersa".... apparently.
That trigger looks horrible. Maybe feels better than it looks (I hope so), but no thank you.
Does this company know about the increase in egg prices? This design is out of touch & not needed. #Sad , #9mm1911Mags
Make a video CANIK METE MC9
The guns aren't available in the US yet.
I like it and that’s a gun I would probably enjoy carrying
Damn that's a nice looking pistol. I never heard of it before. Where did buy and what's the cost?
Price and availability is in the linked press release. We don't mention prices on here anymore because TH-cam then accuses us of trying to sell things (which we don't)
Great video!! Is the magazine release reversible for left-handed shooters?
Ok enough about the phart at 9:43 lmao anyhow that looks like the slide and barrel from a mossberg mc2c.
Looks like an intelligently designed firearm. Everything needed and considered with nothing else. Just needs to be optic ready with optic height sights as excellent as these are.
They have an optics-ready model.
Rather have my G48. PD 10 is an expensive Glock like copy. With a crappy magazine. If it was 3 to 350 dollars it would sell.
You must have missed the internals and exploded diagram, not much "Glock" about this.
I think this will be a case of . I don't want to make much money and they won't.
“4 inches is a nice save length” ..dont say that’s what she said 😅
I’d buy a Glock 48 mos instead.
What kind of a gun instructor would design a fullsize gun that is single stack its a big WHY?
My understanding is that the single stack could be very thin and easy thus easy to conceal while also accommodating a wide variety of hand sizes and shapes. Whether this helps it compete with the micro compact double stacks remains to be seen.
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Yawn another Glock clone!!!!!! I can see owner Glock laughing all way grave some day when die because ever one trying make better mose trap yet keep cone his gun.
I don't think you understand pistol design like you think you do.
This is not going to meet up California roster list.
Never intended too... The "microstamping" issue is a deal breaker.
@@RobPincusPro That is so true. I personally know that microstamping is a complete failure anyway.
California might be one of the few places this pistol sold… Citizens of free states have far too many choices with almost double the capacity and at hundreds of dollars cheaper. I just don’t see it. It’s like buying a Kahr in 2023…
Thx for putting this review together.
Chamber and striker indicators are stupid
Lovely
I like the gun. I like thin pistols
Really want one!
it is a nice looking hand tool ...
looks like a styer
It’s a G48
The pinko ten...figures. Do it take glock mags?🤧
9mm. Booooooo
Only the most widely-available and popular handgun cartridge in the world!
Do you like G-Code holsters? I've never tried them. I primarily use Vedder but also like Muddy River Tactical and Tulster holsters. All 3 have a lightning quick turnaround. I think I checked out G-Code but something turned me away. Can't remember but maybe it was a very long wait period.
We've not tried them before. One thing I have learned is not all holsters are equal, even from the same maker when it comes to different gun models. New gun means openly looking into new holsters. For example I've used CrossBreed for my K100 and liked the first one, but the second one, and one for the 365XL is not the same cant, height, etc.
I appreciate the notification of this upload shittube…
Bro, I cannot stand the shadow banning of firearm channels.
But you just keep on keepin on with what you do my good friend, top notch content since the ol zenith 1911 customs with the red lunchboxes… the good old times..
Thank you. A good way to know what's on the channel without relying on TH-cam is our website GBGunsDepot.com. We typically post their before publishing here, and post the complete review so you don't have to wait. There we're free to include links, and also list specs and pricing. The only folks who get to see things sooner than that are our Patrons.
I can't wait to try one. I think this pistol will be a great carry option!
How you come up with a math how many bad guys per rounds 🤣😂😅🤷♂️🤷♂️🤷♂️
Because I know there are folks who will question the capacity. 6 is too low in my opinion for current encounters, 11 should be plenty.
Rob pincus is our enemy, of course he made a trash gun
How do you figure? What was your experience?
Who's "our".... I don't even know you.
Now … build it to take Glock 19 mags🤣🤣🤣
Why would you want such terrible space-inefficient magazines?
I was totally liking this when I thought the 10 part of the name meant 10mm but when I found out it was 9mm no longer interested. I'm over 9mm it would be nice for guns to be made in real calibers more often
Has a 9mm failed to do its job for you?
@@GBGuns No sir it hasn't, I've just seen too many cop mag dump videos hitting suspect 10+ times with a 9mm and they continue to run off. 9mm penetration is my issue, seems to just punch holes and not stop in target in real world applications. Only reason people flock to 9mm so much is bc the FBI and cops use it but that's just bc they can't shoot and have no recoil control. It's not a more effective round it's a more controllable round
@@timjohnson8390 That sounds like an ammunition choice issue. People flock to 9mm because it's the most popular handgun cartridge in the world; making it more affordable and readily available.
@@GBGuns I'm referring to the hundreds of police shooting videos across the interwebs, guess they would use cheapest not necessarily most effective
@@timjohnson8390 You should step away from the computer, and probably lay off the call of duty for a while...
I own a Canik TP9SF and I think is a real nice gun