Considering how new Rivian is to manufacturing, I am impressed to see how quickly Rivian responds with quality and process improvements. I hope Rivian has enough capital to make over the hump to being self sustaining from sales. So far like what I see.
@@wtmayhew they have VW in for $5 billion for a reason....they can't continue on their own. They certainly can't run factory lije vw experience can,and vw parts procurement ability with vendors. That is why tesla is such junk they still don't know how to run a car factory or deal with vendors that's why they can't make a properly priced vehicle of any decent build quality. Uaw will be in tesla they are toast then..like pay real wages
whats new a 2014 honda crv can stay more up to date than a 2025 rivian r1s. upgrade my infotainment center at anytime and modify and make my vehicle faster at any time also its only a matter of time before someone makes a full self driving kit tack onto any car lol.
@@billybobbob3003 I have you beat, I’m keeping my 2001 Honda Insight. The body is all aluminum and composite, likely to last essentially forever. 23.5 years and going strong. Nowhere near the off-road chops of an R1T though.
@@cosmocalisse lol no. what im saying someone will eventually make a kit to adapt to any type of vehicle most likely tho be it gas/hybrid/hydrogen/battery electric w/e.
@@Resist4 Strange, considering that building a car company from the ground up and building the best products they can is their primary purpose. Yet they survive, anf thrive. Look how long Amazon was in the red.
@@BakerStudiosIndy well, I’m not selling my Rivian stock yet, just wish they’d do something to help their stock price because many say they will go out of business.
Thanks for this terrific video. I am a gen 😂one owner and I am super happy that Rivian is advancing so quickly. But nothing here made me regret my Gen 1
The dots are so they can scan them into the computer. My understanding (which admittedly may be wrong) is that it gives both a reference measurement for scale, and a way to stitch together several partial scans.
I don't have time to watch this but fyi, Rivian switched from a welded to a cast subframe in Q1 2023 (around February). My 19xxx VIN also has cast. Plenty of pictures/links/comments on sites like RivianForums about this. Did Munro think this is new? 🙄
I intend for my next vehicle to be a BEV and am waiting for the next generation of solid state batteries to move into EV ownership. For the EV’s currently available, I like what I see from multiple auto companies. The one area I dislike is the use of touch controls for HVAC, Infotainment, seat movement, etc. Driver use of touch controls is dangerous as it almost always requires the driver to move their eyes from the road to the screen - this is dangerous and a significant safety issue. I want to see auto companies design controls using ONLY mechanical knobs, buttons, and switches. This feature will have a big impact on my purchase decision. I believe touch only controls should be made illegal in moving vehicles.
Wouldn't it be great if Rivian (and others), could confirm or deny your assumptions as to why they designed the parts the way they did. But what's with that PPO with the foam inner, just dangling there? That thing will get snagged and ripped off in bad weather. You would think it would be secured to something.
Those hydraulic lines hanging down so low make me a little nervous for off roading. I wonder how much money the hydraulic roll control costs. The ride quality of the Gen1 R1S was honestly terrible. I certainly didn’t notice anything that impressive with the drive or ride during my extended test drive. Supposedly the Gen2 has been retuned to improve the ride, but by how much? I don’t know. Since 9/10 Rivians never leave the road I feel like they could cut costs and price by offering a standard roll bar model and then an off roading package that includes the hydraulic roll stabilization. If I had to guess this is at least a thousand dollars in cost per vehicle that could be eliminated.
Good morning guys from Seattle. I absolutely love the detail your team goes into every project. One question though.. did Rivian solve the annoying front end rattle/clunking etc.. from the halfshafts? I've had my R1T in several times for what sounds like rocks bouncing around over sharp bumps. They have done two recalls for this, however the odd design of the halfshaft (slip yoke style) contributes to excess noise as there's always lateral movement internally. Mine still drives me nuts at slower speeds over sharp bumps. Thanks!!
th-cam.com/video/krMPnGHirLk/w-d-xo.html @ 11.21 there are more details on the battery pack internals. None of the components is extrusions anymore, all are Structural Castings
@@MunroLive What a traitor. I thought for sure he was team Munro for life. I like Lucid but I'm not sure they will survive, once that Saudi well goes dry they will be done.
I just sold my 2024 R1S after 10 months of ownership and 6,600 miles. Took a ridiculous hit, $40k. The car was riddled with manufacturing defects. I had the mobile service team to my house 1/2 dozen times during my brief ownership. Only Consumer Reports seems to be accurately reporting on this. But I guarantee my issues aren't isolated. I am also astounded that the company has failed to build a quality car with the R1 and are now planning on mass production and scale with the R2. I requested Rivian repurchase my car and they dismissed my request as it didn't meet the legal standard for a "lemon." Either way, DON'T BUY A RIVIAN!
Why do you have four additional jack stands along with the normal four lift parts? Is it that heavy that you're worried about your lift dropping this behemoth?
My guess is that they're going to start a conversation with each other about some company that can help make a ton of $$. They probably targeted Munro Live's channel because it's popular.
It would almost be worth having to pay a per comment fee. I wouldn’t mind paying 10 cents to leave a comment, but you know bots won’t pay any more than zero, so the irritation be solved.
Very surprised that the rear braided hydraulic lines are so exposed in a vehicle designed to be used off road occasionally. Those lines will be the first to go when logs, rocks, etc impact them.
Would like to know what Munro feels how the structure compares to the Cybertruck for strength. Very concerned how delicate Cybertruck is and the breakaway rear frame . This looks similar.
@lighthousesaunders7242 so you didn't see tge entire cybertruck back end pull apart when trying to tow,the ford had no such problem. Cyber truck is a goof. A junk useless vehicle. Over oriced.
@@cengeb The Cybertruck got flown 6 feet in the air and landed its back on a slab of concrete. Yeah that's how people use trucks /s The Ford didn't even have the torque to try that to begin with, strange that its lack of torque is spun as a perk here.
Question? Regarding the Undercarriage in the beginning of the video it looks to be Aluminum, how's the RUST on Aluminum? Who thought of those stainless steel lines? Notice how they marked EVERY single bolt underneath? Wouldn't you wan't the Engine mount to be more rigid? That Bosch motor as opposed to Rivian Motor, could've been a limited time.
Aluminum doesn't rust. They probably marked the bolts to make sure they were torqued into place properly by the assembly operator. This is something other manufacturers do too. Motor mount stiffness is tricky becuase you don't want noise and vibration from the motor, but you also don't want it to move around too much
As what was stated Aluminum doesn't rust, it oxidizes. And when it does this it seals itself and why Aluminum Scuba tanks are better than steel tanks, besides being much lighter.
Saw rivian pick up this summer lost front right wheel in far forest park on tarmac… Me and my family are scared forever. This is junk Will keep our 70serie landcruiser thank you
Have to wait for Q3 to see what impact these have on cost of production. They didn't start selling these until just days before the quarter ended so virtually no impact on earnings.
Rivian is making good progress on volume and sales are increasing towards a profitable level, just as Tesla was years ago with early Model S sales. I do think they'll get to a high level and be a worthy junior companion to Tesla on the market, crowding out the legacy makers. They very well may have already garnered more sales than a subbrand like Chrysler, for example.
@@jamesengland7461 - Except RIVIAN is older than TESLA , and Rivian tried to make a Roadster like Tesla & FAILED. then PIVOTED to light trucks. although , the Rivian is HEAVIER than the Cybertruck , even though its SMALLER, (Ranger ). I dont see path to PROFITABILITY or REVINUES for Rivian. IF SHARK or RADAR come to America , its GAME OVER for Rivian and LEGACY trucks.
Typical car company, building a vehicle that needs improved later which results in wasted money! They should have done their homework before introducing their vehicles which would make them profitable sooner!
MUNRO - what Rivian is doing in the FRONT end , a little better than before , still TOO expensive . and still NOT Front End Gigacasting. or TESLA like Discrete front end Casting of entire assembly in a Module. I suspect something similar is going on in the REAR assembly , no Gigacast and no DISCRETE modules.
@@MunroLive $andy when will you repost your video from Vietnam where you declared the panel gaps on the VinFast "perfect" when they were clearly not? Also, why not disclose that your Vietnam trip was paid for by VinFast?
Considering how new Rivian is to manufacturing, I am impressed to see how quickly Rivian responds with quality and process improvements. I hope Rivian has enough capital to make over the hump to being self sustaining from sales. So far like what I see.
@@wtmayhew they have VW in for $5 billion for a reason....they can't continue on their own. They certainly can't run factory lije vw experience can,and vw parts procurement ability with vendors. That is why tesla is such junk they still don't know how to run a car factory or deal with vendors that's why they can't make a properly priced vehicle of any decent build quality. Uaw will be in tesla they are toast then..like pay real wages
whats new a 2014 honda crv can stay more up to date than a 2025 rivian r1s. upgrade my infotainment center at anytime and modify and make my vehicle faster at any time also its only a matter of time before someone makes a full self driving kit tack onto any car lol.
@@billybobbob3003 I have you beat, I’m keeping my 2001 Honda Insight. The body is all aluminum and composite, likely to last essentially forever. 23.5 years and going strong. Nowhere near the off-road chops of an R1T though.
@@billybobbob3003 Isn't that what Tesla has been talking about doing by licensing FSD to the other manufacturers?
@@cosmocalisse lol no. what im saying someone will eventually make a kit to adapt to any type of vehicle most likely tho be it gas/hybrid/hydrogen/battery electric w/e.
Really glad to see them move away from the extruded and welded front cradle. Significant improvement on the casting on the rear.
The carbon fiber shield was an add-on as part of the all terrain package that you can still get -- this one just doesn't have it.
Got shares in Rivian..looking at these huge improvements will buy a load more....
😂 solid investment strategy
Rivian never ceases to impress me.
Yeah, like how their stock price doesn't do much except go down.
@@Resist4 Strange, considering that building a car company from the ground up and building the best products they can is their primary purpose. Yet they survive, anf thrive. Look how long Amazon was in the red.
@@BakerStudiosIndy well, I’m not selling my Rivian stock yet, just wish they’d do something to help their stock price because many say they will go out of business.
@@BakerStudiosIndylook at how many quarters they got left with cash at hand
@@Resist4I’m buying DJT stock…..it’s a winner 😅
simply wow
The two relaxing staff really stole some Jordan's thunder at outro:) Good PR for work environment at Munro
Thanks for this terrific video. I am a gen 😂one owner and I am super happy that Rivian is advancing so quickly. But nothing here made me regret my Gen 1
more Jordan!
Looks great
Another well done video👍
Thanks again!
Everyone else: triangle shape.
Americans: doritooo
Hey rivian is coming along nicely not the rabbit but not turtle
More into being cautious not a bad route either.
For an adventure/off-road vehicle, the stainless hoses looping downward is a concern.
Very odd, easily fixed..
@@Rockall57and yet they haven't fixed it?
@@Rockall57or are you suggesting owners can simply deal with it themselves? Because Rivian hasn't.
it looks bad but it really doesn't matter, it is far from the ground even at full jounce
The kinematics of that rear suspension is interesting.
Does the 2025 R1T have these same changes? I ordered one 3 weeks ago.
🙋♂️JORDAN AND WALKER,THANKS FOR YOUR SUMMERY AND THE MUNRO TEAM OF SUPPORT BEHIND THE SCENES 🧐💚💚💚
Are all the green marks from QC at the factory or added on for your analysis?
The dots are so they can scan them into the computer. My understanding (which admittedly may be wrong) is that it gives both a reference measurement for scale, and a way to stitch together several partial scans.
Those hydraulic lines look very vulnerable to being snagged...
they look that way, and it is maybe possible, but they are tucked pretty high out of the way of any rough ground.
launch edition was the same way, didnt hear of any issues.
I agree and think they should of had a shield to protect them.
I have a 2023 Gen 1 R1S and my front knuckles are the same as the Gen 2 in this video. VIN 26xxx
I don't have time to watch this but fyi, Rivian switched from a welded to a cast subframe in Q1 2023 (around February). My 19xxx VIN also has cast. Plenty of pictures/links/comments on sites like RivianForums about this. Did Munro think this is new? 🙄
Doesn't adding a foam sound insulator to the motor also keep in the heat?
Great Rivian Review, seen a few 1st gen up close, very impressive vehicle
Good job!!
Thanks!
I would like to see the load rating on the floor jack’s that you have there mostly with one that is not doing anything.
The R!S has very little intrusion in the small overlap crash test, especially considering how heavy the vehicle is.
Question: Gen 1 or Gen 2 which is built BETTER? More durable? Strong built?
I intend for my next vehicle to be a BEV and am waiting for the next generation of solid state batteries to move into EV ownership.
For the EV’s currently available, I like what I see from multiple auto companies.
The one area I dislike is the use of touch controls for HVAC, Infotainment, seat movement, etc. Driver use of touch controls is dangerous as it almost always requires the driver to move their eyes from the road to the screen - this is dangerous and a significant safety issue.
I want to see auto companies design controls using ONLY mechanical knobs, buttons, and switches. This feature will have a big impact on my purchase decision.
I believe touch only controls should be made illegal in moving vehicles.
What polo is Jordan wearing? It's great, but I can't find anything like it.
Wouldn't it be great if Rivian (and others), could confirm or deny your assumptions as to why they designed the parts the way they did. But what's with that PPO with the foam inner, just dangling there? That thing will get snagged and ripped off in bad weather. You would think it would be secured to something.
Nice video
Thanks
I really hope Rivian can turn a profit and lasts into the future.
👍
I believe the carbon fiber underbody protection is still an option you can order.
Why are the hydraulic lines facing down?
Keep dirt out of the connection, maybe.
Those hydraulic lines hanging down so low make me a little nervous for off roading. I wonder how much money the hydraulic roll control costs. The ride quality of the Gen1 R1S was honestly terrible. I certainly didn’t notice anything that impressive with the drive or ride during my extended test drive. Supposedly the Gen2 has been retuned to improve the ride, but by how much? I don’t know.
Since 9/10 Rivians never leave the road I feel like they could cut costs and price by offering a standard roll bar model and then an off roading package that includes the hydraulic roll stabilization. If I had to guess this is at least a thousand dollars in cost per vehicle that could be eliminated.
Making changes, yet sticking with aluminum. Vehicle price is steep tho....how long will remain all aluminum suspensions?
Good morning guys from Seattle. I absolutely love the detail your team goes into every project. One question though.. did Rivian solve the annoying front end rattle/clunking etc.. from the halfshafts? I've had my R1T in several times for what sounds like rocks bouncing around over sharp bumps. They have done two recalls for this, however the odd design of the halfshaft (slip yoke style) contributes to excess noise as there's always lateral movement internally. Mine still drives me nuts at slower speeds over sharp bumps.
Thanks!!
So it's suspension is sort of like a Citroen from 60 years ago. Interesting.
Interesting but Jordan and Walker could do a dance off under that Rivian... Just saying.
th-cam.com/video/krMPnGHirLk/w-d-xo.html @ 11.21 there are more details on the battery pack internals.
None of the components is extrusions anymore, all are Structural Castings
Chewing gum while presenting is off putting
Lol rocks will love those electrical and hydraulic connections by the wheels. Very "robust" design
it has to be both body on frame and unibody because unibody can't tow as much as a body on frame and body on frame is not as safe as a unibody
Please keep sandy out of these videos! I think he, like someone else, has gone off a the deep end.
Where’s Corey ?
He left Munro over a year ago. Works for Lucid.
@@MunroLive What a traitor. I thought for sure he was team Munro for life. I like Lucid but I'm not sure they will survive, once that Saudi well goes dry they will be done.
@@MunroLiveThey are still losing money 😮
I just sold my 2024 R1S after 10 months of ownership and 6,600 miles. Took a ridiculous hit, $40k. The car was riddled with manufacturing defects. I had the mobile service team to my house 1/2 dozen times during my brief ownership. Only Consumer Reports seems to be accurately reporting on this. But I guarantee my issues aren't isolated. I am also astounded that the company has failed to build a quality car with the R1 and are now planning on mass production and scale with the R2. I requested Rivian repurchase my car and they dismissed my request as it didn't meet the legal standard for a "lemon." Either way, DON'T BUY A RIVIAN!
Why do you have four additional jack stands along with the normal four lift parts? Is it that heavy that you're worried about your lift dropping this behemoth?
it's for safety, we use them on every vehicle.
Smart move,,I saw a car falling from hoist on a mech and it wasnt pretty 😂
What is with all the weird AI-bot comments??
My guess is that they're going to start a conversation with each other about some company that can help make a ton of $$. They probably targeted Munro Live's channel because it's popular.
@@peterkn2 That's a different category. These are just the instant-commenting sexbots.
Legwanta 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
It would almost be worth having to pay a per comment fee. I wouldn’t mind paying 10 cents to leave a comment, but you know bots won’t pay any more than zero, so the irritation be solved.
@@wtmayhew Lol, I'm a human and I am not paying to make comments on youtube.
Very surprised that the rear braided hydraulic lines are so exposed in a vehicle designed to be used off road occasionally. Those lines will be the first to go when logs, rocks, etc impact them.
they are very well protected lol...
Lol. Most SUVs ever sold have never rolled over any surface other than pavement in thier entire operational life.
No one should be off roading with an SUV. If someone wants to be off roading often, then buy a real off road vehicle.
$andy owns Rivian stock!
Would like to know what Munro feels how the structure compares to the Cybertruck for strength. Very concerned how delicate Cybertruck is and the breakaway rear frame . This looks similar.
Walker's gum chewing was distracting 😅.
The cybertruck casting is a disaster,Sandi will never admit his ability to tell the truth
Yes bot.
@lighthousesaunders7242 so you didn't see tge entire cybertruck back end pull apart when trying to tow,the ford had no such problem. Cyber truck is a goof. A junk useless vehicle. Over oriced.
@@cengeb The Cybertruck got flown 6 feet in the air and landed its back on a slab of concrete. Yeah that's how people use trucks /s
The Ford didn't even have the torque to try that to begin with, strange that its lack of torque is spun as a perk here.
@@cengebat least its trying something different .... introducing new tech(steer by wire)
@websitemartian it's not new and it's over priced impractical...
Question?
Regarding the Undercarriage in the beginning of the video it looks to be Aluminum, how's the RUST on Aluminum?
Who thought of those stainless steel lines?
Notice how they marked EVERY single bolt underneath?
Wouldn't you wan't the Engine mount to be more rigid?
That Bosch motor as opposed to Rivian Motor, could've been a limited time.
Aluminum doesn't rust. They probably marked the bolts to make sure they were torqued into place properly by the assembly operator. This is something other manufacturers do too. Motor mount stiffness is tricky becuase you don't want noise and vibration from the motor, but you also don't want it to move around too much
As what was stated Aluminum doesn't rust, it oxidizes. And when it does this it seals itself and why Aluminum Scuba tanks are better than steel tanks, besides being much lighter.
I like the video, but chewing gum in your mouth? Come on guys!
At least they look into the camera lens, instead of looking at the display to see themselves, like so many amateur TH-camrs do.
Where else are you supposed to chew gum 😅
quite a significant downgrade to go from quad motor to dual motor.
Game over for Tesla!
Not because of Rivian but because of Elon's fixation with X.
Saw rivian pick up this summer lost front right wheel in far forest park on tarmac…
Me and my family are scared forever. This is junk
Will keep our 70serie landcruiser thank you
Good news: Good work in making things better and less expensive to manufacture. Bad news: still losing ~$35k per vehicle.
Have to wait for Q3 to see what impact these have on cost of production. They didn't start selling these until just days before the quarter ended so virtually no impact on earnings.
@@itsallsimplefacts I suspect that in a few quarters, they'll reduce losses to < $25k / vehicle. Maybe by the end of '25
MUNRO - RIVIAN high volume ? NOPE .
Tesla CYBERTRUCK outsold Rivian by 3:1 .
Rivian is making good progress on volume and sales are increasing towards a profitable level, just as Tesla was years ago with early Model S sales. I do think they'll get to a high level and be a worthy junior companion to Tesla on the market, crowding out the legacy makers. They very well may have already garnered more sales than a subbrand like Chrysler, for example.
@@jamesengland7461 - Except RIVIAN is older than TESLA , and Rivian tried to make a Roadster like Tesla & FAILED.
then PIVOTED to light trucks.
although , the Rivian is HEAVIER than the Cybertruck , even though its SMALLER, (Ranger ).
I dont see path to PROFITABILITY or REVINUES for Rivian.
IF SHARK or RADAR come to America , its GAME OVER for Rivian and LEGACY trucks.
MUNRO - Rivian in 2024, still is NOT Profitable .
Will you stop writing in caps?
He's hard of hearing. That's why he's constantly yelling.
Typical car company, building a vehicle that needs improved later which results in wasted money! They should have done their homework before introducing their vehicles which would make them profitable sooner!
Hopefully they streamline their mechanical design, Rivian trucks are a mechanics nightmare with a zillion part #’s to fail.
They partnered with VW it is all good now so they think anyway.
What parts do you think those are, specifically? 🙄
@@CompTechMike do your own research or if you paid attention to any tear down videos even on this channel it’s very evident & profound.
@@rickhammond2473 😜
@@truthseeker111 so you have no actual idea and are just another chode parroting talking points you don't understand? Got it. 🤡
MUNRO - you should compare Rivian R1T to the KANDI K32 4x4 off road , only $27,000.
MUNRO - what Rivian is doing in the FRONT end , a little better than before , still TOO expensive .
and still NOT Front End Gigacasting. or TESLA like Discrete front end Casting of entire assembly in a Module.
I suspect something similar is going on in the REAR assembly , no Gigacast and no DISCRETE modules.
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Rule #1. Never chew gum in a YT video!
I thought the first rule was you do not talk about Fight Club.
@@MunroLive $andy when will you repost your video from Vietnam where you declared the panel gaps on the VinFast "perfect" when they were clearly not? Also, why not disclose that your Vietnam trip was paid for by VinFast?