From the archives: The Osage murders and "Killers of the Flower Moon"

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  • In the early 20th century, an oil rush in the Osage Nation, located in Oklahoma, produced a torrent of oil revenues for the Native American tribe, making them the richest people per capita in the world. But their wealth invited greed, exploitation and murder on the part of white "guardians" who came to control the Osage's money, and would lead to the first major investigation by the FBI. In this "Sunday Morning" story originally broadcast April 30, 2017, correspondent Lee Cowan talks with David Grann, author of "Killers of the Flower Moon," about the reign of terror against the Osage.
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  • @ogggggggggggggggggg1
    @ogggggggggggggggggg1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +811

    As a member of the Osage tribe who's great grandmother was mentioned in the KOTFM book and whose uncle was in the film, I'm honored that he made this film. Sure it was long and may not be as remembered as Taxi Driver or Raging Bull, but my people needed their story told.

    • @chrisnewman5291
      @chrisnewman5291 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +42

      Long film but really interesting and sad at the same time. Native American culture is fascinating. I am sorry that your people had to go through this. But at least you can be proud your family was at the front of telling this story 👌.

    • @wacodraco1558
      @wacodraco1558 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      I watched this movie in theaters three times so far and I am quite the movie critic…this will definitely be remembered

    • @downwiththeclique7239
      @downwiththeclique7239 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I saw it last night, and we went to a 9:30pm showing. It was long, but it was very good. The story is really sticking with me

    • @INeedABlessingNow
      @INeedABlessingNow 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      I am grateful to David Grann for telling this long-overdue story. I must admit that had it not been made into this motion picture masterpiece, I still would know nothing of the story. I commend film director Martin Scorsese for staying true in depicting an epic American tragedy. After seeing the film, I feel that it is greater than the two Scorsese works that you referenced. Peace and blessings to the Osage Nation, may the ancestors rest in eternal power.

    • @Sammy_lovvve
      @Sammy_lovvve 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      I just watched this movie, literally leaving the cinema now and my blood pressure went through the roof 😢

  • @miguelsoliz772
    @miguelsoliz772 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1104

    I am a Native American and studied native history, this was just another horrible act done to Native Americans. This is what is happening to native Hawaiians. There land is valuable and people want it and will do horribly things to acquire it.

    • @heather4089
      @heather4089 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

      Slowly is happening in Puerto Rico now. My people are so naive that sees it as growth in the island but they are not seeing what they are doing right in our faces. Replacing us.

    • @zthegreat4538
      @zthegreat4538 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +39

      Seems we all have gone through or are going through horror's from the hands of the same enemy.

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@heather4089who is replacing you? Not white people

    • @stiannobelisto573
      @stiannobelisto573 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      Unfortunately that is how things worked back then, conquest and colonisation, you want your land back then you must fight for it

    • @serdownofhousebad1127
      @serdownofhousebad1127 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Same thing happened in Polynesia, brother. British/Dutch/French showed up, fought a war they actually couldn't win oddly enough due to the Maori's guerilla and trench warfare tactics, but they got us with a treaty in the end. Now over 80% of Māori land is owned by the crown, our government continues to sell what little territory we have to real estate while tribes protest and get carried away by riot police, they outlawed our language and cultural practices for decades, and the Māori only make 17% of NZ's population. What happened to your ancestors was barbaric and cruel, yes some of the American tribes knew war and hurt each other for a long time, but not all of them and certainly not on such a scale as the genocide you all faced. I hope your tribe has held onto their culture despite the hardships and I pray for all native people of America who still to this day go missing from reservations without investigation or suffer still under the U.S government

  • @teamcougars
    @teamcougars 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +313

    Disgusting how we weren’t taught about this in school … I’m 54 graduated in 1987 and I am just now learning about this 😢I want to see the movie now.

    • @rockbandwii6
      @rockbandwii6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      It was a very good movie.

    • @Laynenelson320
      @Laynenelson320 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      My history teacher in high school here in mn talked a little about it and I graduated in 2017

    • @CarlosCruz-ll5ez
      @CarlosCruz-ll5ez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      the same thing could be said of Black Wall Street and coinciding it also happened in Oklahoma!

    • @michaelschramm1064
      @michaelschramm1064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +20

      Guess what we also were not taught? The Trail of Tears, The Battle of Wounded Knee, The Battle of Little Bighorn, King Phillips War…

    • @adofominka8767
      @adofominka8767 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I’m so sick of people lamenting what they were not taught in school. Grade school is supposed to give you a foundational education. College and other types of professional training are designed to train and indoctrinate people to be wage slaves. Besides that, surely one can’t learn everything in school. This is why it is important to strive to a life-long learner and seeker of understanding. With the internet we can learn almost anything with a little effort and initiative.
      Nobody is hiding anything. The information is in plain view and literally at people’s fingertips. I understand that sometimes we don’t know what we don’t know or even where to begin, but there are even ways to overcome this obstacle.

  • @d_c_C
    @d_c_C 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +742

    I’m so glad this story is being told on the big screen! It’s so important for audiences to not just read but to SEE the horrific violence done to the native Americans. You can’t white wash the truth and you can’t keep it hidden forever.

    • @euniceransfer7873
      @euniceransfer7873 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

      Amen

    • @orangemanbad
      @orangemanbad 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Don’t think it’s about that. It’s good old fashioned organized crime.

    • @Frenic1
      @Frenic1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      Will Hollywood tell the full true story?? Highly doubtful...

    • @d_c_C
      @d_c_C 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @@Frenic1 even if they don’t tell the full thing the fact that it’s still being made is important. How many films showing the atrocities done to the native Americans can you name? … right, there are so few.

    • @Xxrocknrollgod
      @Xxrocknrollgod 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      100 years is pretty good

  • @9liveslisa
    @9liveslisa 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +189

    Sickening. Such greed and inhumanity.

  • @brenda9990
    @brenda9990 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +302

    This story needs to be told for all to see the atrocities the Native Osage people had to endure because of greed.

    • @silencedogood711
      @silencedogood711 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      Seriously. Someone should make a movie about it. Maybe a big time director like Spielberg or Nolan. Ooh and some big time actors like brad pitt or something. That would be such a great film!

    • @iricandescence
      @iricandescence 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      lol

    • @murph7421
      @murph7421 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@silencedogood711 You're never gonna believe this...

    • @chinibubu411
      @chinibubu411 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      By the yt man! Confirmed

    • @murph7421
      @murph7421 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@chinibubu411 the TH-cam man?

  • @elliewegman1846
    @elliewegman1846 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +164

    I have just finished reading the book... It is well-researched, well written and shocking. Well worth a read.

    • @robertcope9494
      @robertcope9494 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I read it last year. I plan on see if the movie is close to the book.

    • @debbluitt
      @debbluitt 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      What's the name of the book?

    • @robertcope9494
      @robertcope9494 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      As I recall the same as the movie.@@debbluitt

  • @ivanfranco770
    @ivanfranco770 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +151

    As a Native American i am just happy this story is being told!

    • @dianaknapp1015
      @dianaknapp1015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      I’m from a European descent and this is another story that makes me ashamed of my ancestors. I absolutely cannot fathom the cruelty that they bestowed on so many innocent lives.

    • @williamcarter9066
      @williamcarter9066 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Which is one of the saddest things I’ve ever seen posted!! The story is told by a white Italian director an he is ironic but he hasn’t lived one single second of an Native Americans life an I personally as a black man can’t stand it !!

    • @therollerlollerman
      @therollerlollerman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ⁠@@williamcarter9066 then it must have so pathetic for Frederick Douglass to have said of John Brown: “His zeal in the cause of freedom was infinitely superior to mine,” right? If you think human compassion is divided by “race” you are still misled

    • @whiteknob7944
      @whiteknob7944 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah. It won’t change anything. It’s already being seen as a white mans greatest movie! About natives. Red men of the woods.

    • @wacodraco1558
      @wacodraco1558 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@williamcarter9066the Osage gave Scorsese the green light: their team spent months in the Oklahoma reservation learning the stories and culture, reading the book and learning the language from the people. That was authentic Osage language they were speaking. Forget what you’re talking about; I’m Black too. But Mr. Scorsese took a risk at 80 years old, and knocked this one out of the Fenway Park

  • @sherryzimmerman9220
    @sherryzimmerman9220 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +80

    Thank You Thank You for telling this story…I taught High School for 33 years and loved it…..but my Best Work came the next 13 years as I worked as a Court Appointed Advocate for neglected and abused children in Pierce County Juvenile Court, Washington State…..and my focus became Native American Children …..I had the privilege of working to reunite children with a number of their tribes across the nation…..ie Puyallup, Squaxin , Standing Rock…….my hope is for a truth and reconciliation and an Indigenous Day recognizing the First People of this country…..the LAND cries out for it…..Thank You for this engaging piece and this moment in time….

    • @flynnspears7502
      @flynnspears7502 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Very interesting the work you do. Much of this countries true history of oppression and acts of cruelty against anyone not White continues to come to light.
      The book Killer's Of The Flower Moon is a painfull read. Although not directly related to the atrocities you work to correct...

    • @user-te6eo1gw9l
      @user-te6eo1gw9l 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      That is admirable of you.

    • @coleengoodell7523
      @coleengoodell7523 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      There is such a day and unfortunately it was set by who knows to be the same day as Columbus day. Awful.

  • @JoeMama-tl4tr
    @JoeMama-tl4tr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +300

    One of the most evil people ever were the ones who harmed the Osage. It was all for greed and destroyed families while the government invited the abuse

    • @beingmyself000
      @beingmyself000 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Unit 731. Human medical test subjects at the hands of the Japanese which was allowed by the US government in exchange for information. Hollywood makes a movie and you talk about “the most evil”. History is riddled with evil.

    • @kiefmanning7394
      @kiefmanning7394 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I heard a couple Osage were beat senseless with this book.

    • @CarolynFrazier-nu4xz
      @CarolynFrazier-nu4xz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That is because the Government was them, their own kind they had that privilege to commit these crimes.

    • @olyokie
      @olyokie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@CarolynFrazier-nu4xz
      What kind?

    • @monique4540
      @monique4540 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@olyokieyou know😂

  • @tamaramartin4015
    @tamaramartin4015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +161

    Many years ago, i worked with a professor whose grandmother was a victim of the Reign of Terror. Denny had grown up believing she died of kidney disease, then he heard it was suicide. He couldn't accept that she would do that -- she was found lying next to her baby daughter, Denny's mother -- so he set out to find the truth. Quite a story, a horrible, terrible story.

    • @GayleTate
      @GayleTate 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      😢😮

  • @meequon1
    @meequon1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +49

    The original novel written about this history by a Native American woman Linda Hogan called Mean Spirit in 1990 was nominated for a Pulitzer prize in 1991, worth a read also from a native person's perspective.

    • @Auntkekebaby
      @Auntkekebaby 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Thank you.

  • @TB-yp4un
    @TB-yp4un 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +211

    Absolutely one of the best historical books ever written! This story needs to be shared in every classroom in America!

    • @melissaomalia9870
      @melissaomalia9870 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      I recommended it to ALL of my AP US history students

    • @chrispaschal7955
      @chrispaschal7955 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      You can bet that will not happen.

    • @HskHeroReborn
      @HskHeroReborn 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      They will claim CRT 🤦🏾‍♂️

    • @CreoleLadyBug
      @CreoleLadyBug 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Book will be banned shortly.

    • @reneesheeran4432
      @reneesheeran4432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@HskHeroReborn CRT?

  • @tonyp5997
    @tonyp5997 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +63

    Lily Gladstone who plays Mollie Burkhart in the film adaptation is definitely getting a lot of major awards for her role.

  • @katecoffee4744
    @katecoffee4744 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    I spent a lot of time in this area as a child. To some it may seem a bleak landscape but I found magic in it. I didn’t learn about the horrors until I was well into adulthood. I still visit this area and still feel the magic but, now, with a touch of sadness and shame.

  • @Corgi_Manu
    @Corgi_Manu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Every American should watch this Movie. PERIOD.

  • @user-uy5ml4gq8s
    @user-uy5ml4gq8s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +138

    The US government’s mistreatment of Native Americans is one of this country’s greatest sins. As a person who has Cherokee in my family tree I am saddened by this

    • @justathoughtmyfriend1403
      @justathoughtmyfriend1403 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      I'd edit---genocide.

    • @user-uy5ml4gq8s
      @user-uy5ml4gq8s 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I agree

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      No it wasn't 😅

    • @skeletorlikespotatoes7846
      @skeletorlikespotatoes7846 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@justathoughtmyfriend1403it wasn't genocide

    • @Svensk7119
      @Svensk7119 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      ​@@skeletorlikespotatoes7846 It often was. If not comprehensively planned, it still killed enough to fit the definition.

  • @yungacedagoat2819
    @yungacedagoat2819 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I’m a proud Choctaw and I live in Oklahoma this is my first time hearing this story I can’t imagine what my ancestors went through back then that has yet been talked about my heart breaks for my fellow natives 🥲

  • @megankenworthy6345
    @megankenworthy6345 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I lived in Oklahoma for 10 years. I love the Osage community. I am glad these stories are being told, even if they are painful.

  • @jillvidal7549
    @jillvidal7549 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    David Grann is a genius writer and a true historian with the objective of exposing the horrific wrongs against the Osage people. Grann a silent hero who made a loud impact to reveal the truths.

  • @lukodaian
    @lukodaian 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

    Beautifully done CBS .thanks for sharing history

  • @Bun800
    @Bun800 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +145

    When I was working on a TV show back in summer '21, a lot of us had heard about Scorsese's latest being filmed in OK and possibly Kentucky. But I never expected it to be a story such as *this.* If you're not on a particular film shoot nor have friends working on it you genuinely don't know what's being produced. But oh my god, this is a terrifying film I'll be seeing in theaters. As a white person in my early 30s I am so sickened by how we treated Natives and still treat them to this day. I'm very blessed to have been brought to several pow-wows when I was a child. Not only were they fun, I think overall it was a great lesson in decency and learning tolerance at a young age. You can tell David is a good person, despite all the horrific hardships of the Osage the truth he found out had to be revealed. That he still hurts from this writing and research journey says so much. Thank you CBS Sunday Morning for another excellent topic coverage.

    • @KylieJonkman
      @KylieJonkman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tolerance? Of whom?

    • @Bun800
      @Bun800 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      "tolerance" as in being open minded to the world, not a person or people. @@KylieJonkman

    • @grandpoohbah1037
      @grandpoohbah1037 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Tolorence of EVIL people. Still to this day.

  • @contessachristabella259
    @contessachristabella259 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +35

    I remember reading or hearing about this. So glad their story is finally being shown on the big screen for everyone to see.

  • @CallMeErie
    @CallMeErie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +203

    More of these kinds of stories need to be told. Silence and whitewashing allow the majority culture to feel superior, while dehumanizing others.

    • @richstex4736
      @richstex4736 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      They would just cry that you're woke.

    • @donbrasco8899
      @donbrasco8899 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      How Racist of you.

    • @doctordl7757
      @doctordl7757 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And then the majority culture turn around and write books, create film and digital content on these things make a ton of money thus further exploiting pain and suffering from their atrocities.

    • @texaswunderkind
      @texaswunderkind 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Those who preach American Exceptionalism don't want to talk about slavery, or mistreatment of native people, or the internment of Japanese-Americans during the war. Anything that besmirches the "shining beacon on the hill" imagery is to be banned. Ironically, owning up to the mistakes of the past would actually help America become the beacon of freedom it could be. Hiding it, covering it up, and rewriting history will only prevent the promise of the United States from being realized.

    • @JP2GiannaT
      @JP2GiannaT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I'm honestly confused when people say stuff like this, because I DID learn about this growing up. We read "Bury my Heart at Wounded Knee" in high school, I read books about the forced reservation school system and trail of tears in middle school, and I learned about Native culture in elementary school. And I grew up in conservative Texas!
      Was I just unusual for...I dunno, reading? Did I just get lucky with my teachers?

  • @cherylrleigh1912
    @cherylrleigh1912 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +322

    "Killers" is an artistic masterpiece, and the tragic events that unfolded among the Osage people parallel the experiences of African Americans in the Oklahoma Greenwood District, known as Black Wall Street, who similarly acquired oil-rich lands.

    • @ronbarton7799
      @ronbarton7799 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      That's a great point

    • @conniegray9108
      @conniegray9108 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      My soul cries for this ongoing sad and sorry world. Every corner has greed and evil and so much spirit is lost and will continue until the end of time.

    • @scourge6563
      @scourge6563 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      ​@@conniegray9108 ... or until the extinction of the species, most probably by its own hand.

    • @lisaellis2593
      @lisaellis2593 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

      Greed, plain and simple.

    • @BillyLintzenich-wf7sk
      @BillyLintzenich-wf7sk 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@scourge6563no by the hand of God.

  • @laurabenevelli6783
    @laurabenevelli6783 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +78

    It sad and despicable what has been done and is still being done to indigenous people in the name of “freedom, justice and improvement of our society and communities”. It’s never been about any of those things. It’s always been about greed.

    • @PRINTORO
      @PRINTORO 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The usual doublespeak of white men just looking to usurp and steal power. It’s ironic how a Christian nation would commit so many crimes in its own land. This is just another case to show that we put greed over faith and integrity. As an American I am truly disappointed that this is my history. We must do something about it.

    • @Opine101
      @Opine101 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Cool Laura, so when are you and your white family giving your property and assets over to the natives?

  • @Magsomagpie
    @Magsomagpie 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    One of the best books I ever read! Had me going through so many feelings while reading it. Highly recommend.

    • @tonyarussell7351
      @tonyarussell7351 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Totally agree. I too have the book and it is hard to put down. I have recommended this book to a coworker and her book club.

  • @cherylrleigh1912
    @cherylrleigh1912 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +98

    The guardianship system, as it applied to African American Oklahomans who owned their land's oil rights, involved the appointment of a white guardian for the children of the landowners. The children would serve as wards, and this arrangement effectively stripped the landowners of their legal authority to make decisions regarding their own property.

    • @ronbarton7799
      @ronbarton7799 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      What is a good source to get information on that history

    • @lolodee3528
      @lolodee3528 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      AFRICAN? Is THAT so? 🤦🏼‍♀️

    • @thechiefwildhorse4651
      @thechiefwildhorse4651 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Caucasians only have wealth because of this
      -COMANCHE NATION

    • @theoriginalmr.j1422
      @theoriginalmr.j1422 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@lolodee3528
      YES!!!

    • @orchid4308
      @orchid4308 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Sarah Rector. Google her .

  • @hayleygirl67
    @hayleygirl67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +29

    "Killers of the Flower Moon" is such a well-written book. I don't usually enjoy non-fiction writing style, but this is written so well and is so captivating, highly recommend it!

  • @Spiral.Dynamics
    @Spiral.Dynamics 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +27

    My grandmother was born in November of 1923 in southeast Oklahoma. She was half Native American. She died a few years ago and she never said a word about what life was like before she was born.

    • @ajruther67
      @ajruther67 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@DL-ep5uk Parents usually pass down the stories through generations. I have been told so many stories of what life was like for my father and grandparents.

    • @texaswunderkind
      @texaswunderkind 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Life was tough, no doubt. My wife's grandfather grew up in Lawton, eventually attending college at OU before World War II made him a career military man. Even as a white man, he grew up incredibly poor during the Dust Bowl, Great Depression era Oklahoma. Even as an old man he was famous for pinching every penny.

  • @2Hearts3
    @2Hearts3 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +52

    This is an area of history i never knew, never heard of, and i suspect, most Americans outside of Oklahoma never have. I've recently moved to this state. What I'm learning about what happened here a hundred years ago begins to make sense of the realities visible today that I won't enumerate. It's not pretty. It's repugnant that a country who called itself free could have stood silently by. These people were dumped at the end of the Trail of Tears; and if that weren't bad enough, then were robbed, raped, and pillaged in this place. It's high time for the people of this country-- all of us-- to learn the facts.

    • @KylieJonkman
      @KylieJonkman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can still help those in need and being that bridge you speak off x

    • @MrJohnshopkins53
      @MrJohnshopkins53 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Bet you also never heard of the Tulsa Massacre of a successful black community around the same time this happened, and yet they called them the savages? funny how that works. I forgive them, can they forgive themselves? you won't if you hide it.

  • @scentlessapprentice88
    @scentlessapprentice88 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Superb job telling the story. Martin scorcesse and the actors who portrayed the Osage did an amazing job. Just watched it. I didn't know about the specifics before this movie came out. Now i will never forget.

  • @SamSung-ww3rp
    @SamSung-ww3rp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +54

    Another shameful history that was not in the history books

    • @theresamay9481
      @theresamay9481 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      And some people want to ban books that make them uncomfortable.

    • @Rhiles44
      @Rhiles44 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can’t cover it all. We just cover the important things. We can’t do a whole class on American atrocities cmon now

    • @Saige08
      @Saige08 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@theresamay9481 America The Beautiful, Home of the Brave. America has some sins and crimes to atone for..and it shall. A reckoning is coming to this nation for so many of the atrocities it has committed against many groups of people. This is why some are banning books and trying to keep this and other shameful stories of horrific acts, out of their children's school libraries and curriculum. You can try hard, but you can never keep the truth from being told forever. Kudos for telling this story of the crimes committed against those were were native to this land called America, long before the white settlers and colonizers arrived.

  • @tompeace7907
    @tompeace7907 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +71

    More movies need to be made like this about what was done to the sweet, nature-loving Native Americans. We were lied to in grade school; they covered things up and miseducated us.

    • @zaragloade340
      @zaragloade340 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True

    • @michellejade3272
      @michellejade3272 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There’s a Leonardo DiCaprio movie about this in theaters right now.

    • @JP2GiannaT
      @JP2GiannaT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Uh...I think it's incredibly condescending to call them "sweet".
      There were peaceful tribes, sure, but there were warlike ones too. Look up what the Mohawk and Huron did to the French missionaries who came there. Systematic sustained torture and mutilation of captured priests, not just execution.
      Look up the history of the Comanche: any success the Texan Spanish mission system had was because the smaller Karankawa tribe saw that their walls offered protection from the Comanche. They didn't just go after invading Europeans, they went after other tribes too.
      Were Native Americans done dirty by European immigrants? Heck yes. The Reservation system, broken treaties, occasional massacres, and trail of tears all bear witness to that. But it's a gross oversimplification, and an injustice to them, to just label them all "sweet nature lovers". There is a LOT more to the story than that. Just like any other group of human beings, they have a complicated story too.

    • @tompeace7907
      @tompeace7907 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@JP2GiannaT Oh, for goodness sake, i realize that words are limited... so it's silly to say that i did some kind of "injustice" to them. That's ludicrous! Of course, their story is complicated, but they would have been way better off if the Europeans didn't come in and ruthlessly decimate them as they did. They did have vast cooperative cultures, like the Mississippian.

    • @danielsaenz1325
      @danielsaenz1325 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@JP2GiannaT agreed. But to your point, missionaries we're some of the most self-interested exploiters out there. They got theirs, sorry I'm not sorry. I think the unmarked graves of thousands of native children and babies demonstrates that very well.

  • @user-mn2go7wh8c
    @user-mn2go7wh8c 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +50

    It should be mentioned that the Osage Nation takes care of its own mineral estate today, which is 135k acres.

    • @momsterzz
      @momsterzz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      What happened to all the money?

    • @yolondatheodore7694
      @yolondatheodore7694 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      So. Why does this area so abandoned today 2023

    • @KylieJonkman
      @KylieJonkman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Doesn’t justify what they went through

    • @CoolGobyFish
      @CoolGobyFish 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@yolondatheodore7694 most of the reservation governments are just as crooked as the rest. it doesn't surprise me.

    • @aydennoah3316
      @aydennoah3316 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@yolondatheodore7694Because most of it today is farm land and cattle pastures.

  • @janetblack905
    @janetblack905 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Fabulous book! I hope the movie doesn't disappoint, but I won't hold my breath. Such an incredible and sad story.

  • @mugglemikki
    @mugglemikki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The movie is a masterpiece, so well done and accurate. Martin Scorsese is a true master of filmmaking.

  • @johnishikawa2200
    @johnishikawa2200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +137

    This story is an example of why it is so important to vote , and to vote locally . To ignore the power in state legislatures and courts is to invite wicked people to take over . Those white people who did these hideous things to those Osage people had the police , the judges , the courts , and the legislatures sewed up , off of the reservations . The Osage didn't stand a chance against them .

    • @uncleg1623
      @uncleg1623 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      They will also try to ban any books on it.

    • @cswrawr
      @cswrawr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      Very important and worth noting, native americans didn't have the right to vote at all before 1924 and in most cases were still prevented from participating in elections for several decades after that and to this day there are barriers on voters living on reservations.

    • @7996hobguy
      @7996hobguy 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      No one mentions that this became the 2nd largest population of Jewish in the US, I wonder if that will be mentioned in the movie. And there were more lawyers per capital than anywhere else in the world.

    • @bryanwilson5812
      @bryanwilson5812 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      You act like they were innocent when this is exactly how they got land in the first place!

    • @johnishikawa2200
      @johnishikawa2200 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      @bryanwilson5812 : Whaaaaaaaaaaat ?!? How did " they get the land in the first place " ? U mean the Osage ? Are the Osage the " they " ? U need to read and learn . Watch this film - find out a few things .

  • @blinkzone1
    @blinkzone1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Wow, what a sad story. I'd also say Black Wall Street was also very tragic in Oklahoma. Just sad..

    • @texaswunderkind
      @texaswunderkind 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The 1921 Tulsa Massacre was basically in the same time and place. The Osage reservation is on Tulsa's northern border.

    • @jordanapolis
      @jordanapolis 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The day before the Tulsa Massacre, 10 white people were killed by a black mob

    • @blinkzone1
      @blinkzone1 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jordanapolis So what are you saying? Black ppl were the ones responsible for Black Wall Street?

  • @mmps18
    @mmps18 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for writing this book and sharing this important story.

  • @maryturner6400
    @maryturner6400 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    You will reap what you sow

  • @fday1964
    @fday1964 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    It certainly is a week of historical illumination. I watched The American Buffalo by Ken Burns.
    Glad that all this history is being brought to the forefront.

  • @pradplpk
    @pradplpk 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the real horrific history of America...

  • @PomMom700
    @PomMom700 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Oh my, this is a very sad story. I was initially so happy that they found oil on the land. But, of course, others were devious and cruel and prolifically greedy. I'm so sorry for the Osage folks.

  • @Notmymonkey35
    @Notmymonkey35 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    i read the book a couple of years ago. it was riviting and horrific, but part of history that needs to be told. 😢

  • @ccaswick
    @ccaswick 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    After reading this book I SIMPLY COULD NOT BELIEVE we weren't taught about this in high school, such a damn shame.

    • @michaelschramm1064
      @michaelschramm1064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      With all the books I’ve read by now, including this story by David Grann, I can tell you straight up that TONS of events where the Native American tribal nations were disenfranchised was neglected. Starting with the Puritans and King Phillips War in the 1600s

    • @ccaswick
      @ccaswick 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@michaelschramm1064 it goes back beyond the Bible. Humans treat each other like sh!t.

    • @michaelschramm1064
      @michaelschramm1064 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      @@ccaswick Well yes…true. I was referencing the experiences with New World colonists and Native Americans specifically. Even before Miles Standish and the Puritans and Quakers there were the horrible misdeeds leveled at the Caribbean native “Indians” at the hands of Columbus over the course of his four voyages, which involved torture, annihilation, and enslavement.
      In school we were always taught that colonists attempted to make peace accords, promote trade and foster good will. Talk about sugar coating the truth…

  • @louisianarainwater
    @louisianarainwater 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you for this🕊🕊🕊

  • @LMays-cu2hp
    @LMays-cu2hp 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for sharing.

  • @sandygentry8455
    @sandygentry8455 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Read the book. Looking forward to the movie.

  • @peggygibbons479
    @peggygibbons479 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    This story has captivated me for years but all we heard was bits & pieces. I can't WAIT to see the movie!!

  • @auntyvenom133
    @auntyvenom133 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +51

    The Orenda is a fantastic book about the Huron ( & other tribes & their conflicts/ relationships )in the Hudson Bay Area . It’s written by Joseph Boyden, I highly recommend it. It’s told from the perspective of a native war chief, his adopted daughter (whose family he killed in front of her to avenge his wife & daughter’s deaths) & a Jesuit priest sent from France. It’s a powerful story, the kind of book you can read over & over again

    • @nopenope9118
      @nopenope9118 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I’m mostly European but I do have a small amount of Native American DNA. I relate so much to that small amount. Through genealogy research I found a story about two of my white ancestors, a father and son, who were tied to trees by native Americans and had their legs chopped off below the knees. I still can’t help but root for the Native Americans in that situation. So many atrocities were committed against them, I’m always happy when I hear about them getting a little bit of revenge, even if it was against my ancestors.

  • @louise97355
    @louise97355 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    I read this book, could not put it down. Very disturbing and a travesty of neglect and evil.

  • @teresalegler2777
    @teresalegler2777 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Have never heard this story before. So very sad! Greed caused this horrible outcome. No telling how many more innocent Osagans have lost their lives and their ancestors.

    • @cmb9993
      @cmb9993 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes! Greed and racism.

    • @ruth7603
      @ruth7603 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greed and racism. Whites thought they were entitled to the oil wealth, not the Osage.

  • @jennyferrios245
    @jennyferrios245 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    It does not get any clearer than this! Facts plain and simple.

  • @teamcougars
    @teamcougars 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    It’s shameful how we aren’t taught this part of American history 😢 we have governors literally removing and destroying this type of history, it’s bad enough that some early Settlers thought owning people and forcing them into servants the mere thought they thought that was ok is repulsive 🤢 enough and then we hear about even more atrocities like this and Im sad and disgusted by some of our settling people 😢 we must not forget history if we do wdo its too easy to repeat our past indistressions😢
    It’s past time to boot from office any governor burning and destroying any book that doesn’t tell our children and adults the good, bad and ugly disgusting past so we aren’t doomed to repeat it 😢ENOUGH!!!!!

  • @giovannicherico3837
    @giovannicherico3837 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Yep. "Make America Great Again!" How about, "Make America Better!"

    • @Saige08
      @Saige08 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      And some of us know exactly what they mean with that slogan.

  • @girlcheck
    @girlcheck 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I worked with a wonderful man by the name of John Barry in Trust reform. He lived on his grandmother's original allotment. At the time I believe he was chief of the Quapaw tribe. I learned so much from him. He told me the story of his tribe's origin as dew from an oak tree. I think of him often ❤

  • @pohanahawaii
    @pohanahawaii 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    🙏 Fascinating and sad, a story that must be told!

  • @iguillo
    @iguillo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    This country has a LOT of blood on it's hands. No way can it sit in moral judgement of other nations, as it tries to do repeatedly.

    • @texaswunderkind
      @texaswunderkind 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I disagree. We should be fighting for human rights both at home and abroad. The slaughter of innocents in Ukraine isn't justifiable just because we mistreated black slaves and native people.

    • @iguillo
      @iguillo 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@texaswunderkind I'm not speaking about fighting for rights. What I am referring to is the way the country has made moral judgements on other nations / governments, while our own house is not in order. This still rings true today.

    • @TheGhostofTomMetzger
      @TheGhostofTomMetzger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@iguillo How could a house be in order when the whole world thinks our house is their home?

  • @truthpriceless7285
    @truthpriceless7285 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    My heart is broken for these people. They need justice.

  • @InanaNinsianna
    @InanaNinsianna 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Wow - imposing setting (at least the shot) for the courthouse. Very ominous. Unfortunately this type of story is all too common. Great piece.

  • @HugeTinkyWinky
    @HugeTinkyWinky 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I like 10 minutes from Osage. Never knew or heard about this in my 25 years of living here.

  • @OldFloatingSeaman
    @OldFloatingSeaman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just watched the film. Great piece of work to finally get this message out.
    Visited many First Nations, on our road trips, and Osage is now on our next list.
    Lovely people and love meeting and talking to them.

  • @jakespivey3716
    @jakespivey3716 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Remember hearing this story in an old movie called "The FBI Story" with James Stewart.

    • @christhompson3750
      @christhompson3750 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      There was another book about this that came out in 1998. It was called The Osage Indian Murders by Lawrence Hogan.

  • @Afak6
    @Afak6 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    💔💔💔 🥺What a horrific and heat-breaking story. I had no idea. It reminds me of Tulsa/Black Wallstreet. There are so many monumental stories in America’s history that are just buried or never told. These stories must be shared, our kids and younger generations must know or we will continue to make the same mistakes.

  • @christahewitt2758
    @christahewitt2758 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I have ancestors who moved from OK to CA during the Great Depression and it makes me wonder if they knew or played any part in this vile history. 😢

  • @DAB148
    @DAB148 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    And it’s history like this that needs to be shared in all classrooms in our America! It’s important to never forget!

    • @Rhiles44
      @Rhiles44 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      We learn about the trail of tears which was worse. We can’t just hold a whole class on American atrocities.

  • @michaelfairclough6039
    @michaelfairclough6039 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Congratulations Martin. A brilliant movie.

  • @elirae8476
    @elirae8476 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't wait to read this book!! Started watching interviews from Graham and I can't believe that I never heard about this story!

  • @robertcuratolo5339
    @robertcuratolo5339 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    😢 I can't wait to see the movie.

  • @more__plz
    @more__plz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    This country will never flourish until it confronts its past and heals

  • @CorySpitznagel
    @CorySpitznagel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just watched KOTFM this past weekend and was captivated from beginning to end. The book was phenomenal as well.

  • @zbaby82
    @zbaby82 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    They won't get away with it forever.

  • @mattmedina7903
    @mattmedina7903 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Hurts my heart how they use to treat us native Americans they stripped us of are culture language made us cut are hair it was tuff times back then

  • @mf568
    @mf568 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Pale face's barbarism, greed & hatred knows no bounds. They'll always reign, because we never stick together when we all share the same oppressors.

    • @thechiefwildhorse4651
      @thechiefwildhorse4651 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Caucasians are failing and starting to eat each other
      -COMANCHE NATION

    • @Whowhatwherewhen5
      @Whowhatwherewhen5 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🤡

  • @rosierose1167
    @rosierose1167 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    2day is Sunday & went to finally see this movie & happy to announce "it was fabulous, loving, serious, beautiful scenery, sad & disturbing & felt her anguish about her love for her husband, but All well worth catching this movie."
    Fantastic!

  • @JonSmith-zl5wc
    @JonSmith-zl5wc 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Can't wait to see the movie

  • @normaburrage8854
    @normaburrage8854 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    As Eastern Band Cherokee with ancestors who walked the Trail of Tears all of these stories need told Native Americans are the ones for hundreds of years being disrespected AMERICA was our mother land first last and always 😢😢😢😢❤❤❤

  • @karenbrown2135
    @karenbrown2135 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    That is terrible. My mom is from Oklahoma, but not that city.

    • @aydennoah3316
      @aydennoah3316 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Pawhuska is a small rural town no where close to a city.

  • @ellensoucek1914
    @ellensoucek1914 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is horrific. I had never heard of this before.

  • @judycasemore2168
    @judycasemore2168 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm glad the truth is coming out, thankyou to David Grann and the movie " Killers of the Flower Moon "

  • @gloriabeltran6522
    @gloriabeltran6522 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I agree with Miguel. I too am Native American. There is so much hate from people who truly believe that what they are doing is Right.

  • @njbobf
    @njbobf 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Excellent book. Must read before or after seeing the movie.

  • @chrisbalsamo968
    @chrisbalsamo968 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I saw the movie recently and it was really powerful story. Great acting and the characters were very interesting.

  • @floridacrackerguitartips6004
    @floridacrackerguitartips6004 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    The evil people that did these horrible things in the past are the same evil people that live amongst us today. They never go away; they just wait for the right opportunity.

  • @killawhatt8620
    @killawhatt8620 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    And we continue to learn even more horrific nightmears that we're inflicted upon Native/First Nations Tribal peoples.

  • @leveraged6694
    @leveraged6694 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great book and a sickening story of greed.

  • @MijuNasu
    @MijuNasu 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of the most powerful book I ever read, book was amazing the movie will be out this Thursday, I’m sure it is great..

  • @EM-mi5yj
    @EM-mi5yj 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

    I read the book years ago. It was heartbreaking. I don’t wanna see the movie, it’s like being traumatized twice. But it is a story that needs to be told and this kind of behavior should never happen again. White privilege and greed still exist.

    • @JP2GiannaT
      @JP2GiannaT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Greed, yes. The powerful taking from the strong, yes. The fact that European descendant people were in the position of political power, yep.
      I really hate the term "white privilege" because it makes it sound like the rotteness in men's hearts, the crappy bits of us, are just in people of a certain race. They're not. We're all broken inside, to some extent. We're all capable of evil when we see something we want that belongs to someone else. I live in an area that tends to hurl a lot of racist crap towards blacks-- but is demographically primarily Latino. Whites make up about .5% of my hometown. How on earth does the concept of "white privilege" and needing to refute it help anyone where I'm from?

  • @KylieJonkman
    @KylieJonkman 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Can this not be reopened and the people who did this get named and shamed and some sort of payment? People should not get away with this, this is disgusting.

    • @Rhiles44
      @Rhiles44 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I’m sure they are all dead because it was almost 100 yrs ago . It wouldn’t really make any sense to expose family members that probably had nothing to do with this.

    • @aydennoah3316
      @aydennoah3316 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​​@@Rhiles44They already are trying to expose people over this. The pioneer womans family has been brought up in question since the Drummond family owns 433,000 acres right smack in the middle of where this happened. Some woman on a vlog called in trust or something called her out after she discovered that the family wasn't as simple as the tv show airs that infact they were multimillion airs because of all the land they own, and it all went back to a Jack Drummond who supposedly got all the land from the Osage. Our new attorney General Genter Drummond has supposedly investigated and found his family didn't exploit anything whether its true I don't know. I just found all that out last night.

    • @Rhiles44
      @Rhiles44 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aydennoah3316 just people grasping at straws

    • @aydennoah3316
      @aydennoah3316 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Rhiles44 As always!

    • @srdindiana
      @srdindiana หลายเดือนก่อน

      Ladd Drummond’s grandfather was a guardian. The family ran business(es) that gouged the Osage. They ended up with over 400,000 acres of osage land and now they have many “Pioneer Woman” businesses in Pawhuska. Evil forebearers.

  • @deborahfairbanks4012
    @deborahfairbanks4012 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Unconscionable.

  • @debracrespi2690
    @debracrespi2690 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I lived in Pawhuska as a tween, and grew up in Oklahoma ,and never knew this story. You hear the trail of tears, but you don't hear about this. It's sad. I am part cherokee , and this story saddens me. I wish I had known.

  • @medusagorgon8432
    @medusagorgon8432 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I remember reading his book. I became so ill I had to stop. Watching this brings it all back. Humans are the very devil they constant talk about.

  • @tex148th
    @tex148th 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This series of murders was first brought to national attention by Hollywood in the motion picture, "FBI STORY" starring Jimmy Stewart.

  • @natalierullmanward9137
    @natalierullmanward9137 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Im currently 4 hours away. I should visit. I feel tremendous empathy!!!😢😢

  • @tomsouzas
    @tomsouzas 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's an amazing book!

  • @lazarusdarkstar3015
    @lazarusdarkstar3015 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    This really angers me because the Indigenous people have been abused time after time!

  • @CarolynFrazier-nu4xz
    @CarolynFrazier-nu4xz 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I just dont understand how one group of subhumans can even stand themselves for thdy hsve some much blood on thrir hands, have shed somemuch blood of other innocent humans on this plant, just for the PRIVILEGE of stealing what wasn't their's them dehumanize the people they are stilling from, once these monsters excaped their cave dwellings its been hell on this whole planet. They have upset the balance of many cultures with their horrific atrocities with no remorse.

  • @wadeadams4263
    @wadeadams4263 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Gotta check out the movie

  • @alancawfield6549
    @alancawfield6549 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The book was incredible, one of the best I've ever read and I'd recommend people read it rather than watching the film , as Films are never as good as the books they are based on.