SMT: Nocturne is pokemon for insane people (good)

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  • @NEETKitten
    @NEETKitten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1348

    So, I'm gonna explain a few things to help any newbies getting into this game for the first time (particularly regarding demon fusion and negotiation since those are the first big roadblocks most new players get stuck on)
    *Fusion:*
    So for starters, demon fusion has a few different factors that determine what you can fuse, how you can fuse, and what bonuses they gain. And most of it is based on the phase of Kagutsuchi (the big talking sun at the center of the Vortex World) is at when you enter the Cathedral. For example, sacrificial fusion can only be done during Full Kagutsuchi. And certain demons can only be created during certain phases. Furthermore, some demons can only be created through a sacrificial fusion using specific demons. Take Metatron for instance. For this guy, you need to fuse Michael, another Divine, and sacrifice a Tyrant, on top of defeating a certain boss before this formula is even available to you.
    And if you have an item called a Deathstone, you can fuse the Fiends that previously kicked your ass six ways from Sunday (Red Capote is a lot more fun when you're not on the receiving end of it) with each Fiend having a different requirement for fusion. What I mean is that the Fiends don't have their own unique fusion formulas, but instead trying to create certain demons/races of demons with a Deathstone in your possession yields a Fiend instead. Now on to skills! Skills are learned randomly, and deselecting and reselecting the same fusion materials will make different skills get inherited. What this means is that you're gonna be pressing O and X a lot until you get the skills you want. Something to keep in mind is that certain demons have certain skill affinities, making some skills easier to inherit than others. So it's gonna be real hard to teach high level magic to a demon who's whole gimmick is "me hit things good." And if you want that Unga Bunga Me Smash demon to learn that magic because you want that spell on a magic demon that you can use Grog the Momonofu as material to get, all I can say is good luck and have patience.
    Moving on to stats now. So, if your fusion materials are at a high enough level, you have the right Kagutsuchi phase, the demons you're fusing already have bonus stats, or some combination of the three, you can jack up the stats of the new demon you're making to frankly ridiculous levels. We're talking "level 10 demon with 40 in all stats" kinda busted here. Sacrificial fusion also gives bonus stats and levels btw. Aside from the initial stat boost, there's also a race of demons called Mitama. You get these guys by fusing 2 Elementals together, and they exist solely to buff your demons up. See, fusing a demon with these guys doesn't create new demons; they give stat buffs to that demon. So if you fuse let's say a Pixie with a Nigi Mitama (the blue one) then it gains more points in its magic stat. Red one (Ara Mitama) buffs strength, blue one buffs magic, yellow one (Saki Mitama) buffs vitality, and grey one (Kusi Mitama) buffs agility.
    Also, some demons can evolve. This happens once they've learned every skill available to them, and your level matches or exceeds the level of their evolution. You'll know if a demon can evolve or not if you get the message "Signs of change can be seen on (demon)'s body" after they've learned a few of their skills. This isn't super relevant, as you'll usually be able to fuse the demon your demon evolves into a little down the line, but it's good to take note of if you have a demon that's starting to lag behind, but only has a skill or two left to learn.
    *Negotiation:*
    Oh boy, this system. This is either the easiest thing to understand and exploit, or it's an unintelligible mess of "WHAT?!" There is no in-between. So, here's just a short paragraph explaining the basics in order to get you into the former camp.
    The first thing to know is that a lot of demons have answers they like depending on their alignment, or the specific demon. Knowing your mythology definitely helps as well, since a lot of demons at least loosely behave how they're depicted in their myths. Now, how to tell which demon is aligned with which Reason is as simple as "which places do I encounter them in?" Example: Yosuga demons prefer selfish responses, or ones that demonstrate power. Musubi demons prefer selfish answers that stroke the ol' ego and like it when you reaffirm their personal beliefs. Shijima demons like answers that reflect a way of thinking that focus on objectivity. Alternatively, there are demons that aren't aligned with any reason (Fairies, most Wilders, etc.) These guys are a complete coin toss (as are Yosuga's Brutes, simply because of how dumb they all are) And then some demons have questions and answers that pertain to them more than others. Two examples I came up with are Succubus and Badb Catha. Both are Yosuga demons, but they like answers that pertain to them more than ones that pertain to their reason. Flirting with and complimenting Succubus is almost a guaranteed success. Badb Catha is a Celtic goddess of war, so complimenting her strength works wonders on her.
    Using these two as further examples, some demons ask certain questions more frequently. Both Succubus and Badb Catha ask the same question pretty often: (paraphrased) "Look at my skin. What do you think of it?" For Succubus, you answer "it looks soft", because obviously she wants to be complimented. Tell that to Badb Catha though, and she'll assume that you're calling her weak and get pissed off at you. Demons have different personalities, and playing into them increases your chances of getting what you want. Each race has a common personality type, with a few outliers, and figuring out how each personality type reacts to different answers is what's going to carry you through this game.
    Of course none of this is 100% guaranteed to work and RNG will screw you over no matter what, but this comment should serve as a general guideline on how to increase your success rate.
    And that's my "short", comprehensive guide to understanding demons in Nocturne. There's much more I could have gone into, like Magatama, and how curses affect what you can fuse, but I don't want this comment to scare even more people away with its sheer size. ...And if I have to type the word "demon" again, I'll probably commit Persona 3.

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +286

      Dudes out here writing prima guides for free

    • @NEETKitten
      @NEETKitten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +158

      @@foulenergy Anything to help more people get into one of my favorite franchises ever. Great video, btw!

    • @JulioCruz261
      @JulioCruz261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Even after beating this game, there's stuff I didn't have even the slightest idea how it worked that you explained. Holy shit that was so useful, thank you
      Definetly using this for the remaster's playthrough

    • @NEETKitten
      @NEETKitten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@JulioCruz261 No problem, happy to help! ^_^ Tbh, it took me like 2 and a half playthroughs before I finally figured all this stuff out.

    • @Bryantzerox
      @Bryantzerox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      And sometimes, if you're EXTRA lucky with RNG, a Jack Frost will scoot across the floor at the beginning of the battle to ask you politely for a Life Stone. If you give one to him, he'll be so happy and grateful that he'll part with his most precious item: a Life Stone. Then he'll leave.

  • @LordlyWeeb
    @LordlyWeeb 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2098

    Fun fact for everyone, Megami Tensei came out before Pokemon. It's actually the first monster collecting game

    • @ZimVerse
      @ZimVerse 3 ปีที่แล้ว +104

      Even Smt Isn't The 1st Monster Collecting Game.

    • @minato_arisato3751
      @minato_arisato3751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      @@ZimVerse oh really what was it?

    • @Big_Mas182
      @Big_Mas182 3 ปีที่แล้ว +245

      @@minato_arisato3751 yep there were the megami tensei games then the main shin megami tensei games came out

    • @minato_arisato3751
      @minato_arisato3751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      @@Big_Mas182 I knew that

    • @minato_arisato3751
      @minato_arisato3751 3 ปีที่แล้ว +71

      @@Big_Mas182 Megami tensei was a book first

  • @gummmie
    @gummmie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1146

    i love how any review of nocturne turns into the reviewer's psychotic philosophical ramblings at some point because nocturne just does that to you

    • @smtmonke
      @smtmonke 3 ปีที่แล้ว +121

      Well when the game's story literally revolves around psychotic philosophical ramblings over who gets to create the new world, mixed in with a little Lucifer trying to get rich quick scheme, the game just becomes so deep it loops back around to being nonsensical. SMT is the logical extreme of human thought and what it entails about our species, using demons as a juxtaposition to really let it sink in how over the top we can really be.
      That, or it's really just the raving fever dreams of a Japanese game development company named Atlus who just wants to bust the player's balls and give them the most surreal experience they can asspull. Probably both.

    • @logicaloverdrive8197
      @logicaloverdrive8197 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      @@smtmonke *Both.* Definitely both.

    • @TheSlammurai
      @TheSlammurai 2 ปีที่แล้ว +48

      @@smtmonke The irony of you going on a psychotic philosophical ramble in your very response is not lost on me. Lol

    • @Ioun267
      @Ioun267 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@smtmonke I've seen it speculated that SMT 3's plot is partially a reaction to the Tokyo Subway Sarin Attack in 1995 perpetrated by a cult that sought to accelarate the end and reformation of the world. Essentially asking the question, what if they succeeded?

    • @Alistair_7609
      @Alistair_7609 หลายเดือนก่อน

      i just paused the video 4 minutes in togo on a 40 minute rant about jrpgs in an empty room.
      nocturne damage moment

  • @BoostedMonkey05
    @BoostedMonkey05 3 ปีที่แล้ว +339

    "don't expect a gaggle of friends to banter with like Persona."
    Me and Manikins Peer Pressuring a Baphomet into summoning Mara

    • @zhaoyun255
      @zhaoyun255 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      With a full Dick joke conversation.

    • @Junior-dd9js
      @Junior-dd9js 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Man, i thing dds is the closest i can recall with a friends game

  • @Rellik165
    @Rellik165 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1221

    SMT is a series about curb stomping.
    Either you do it to everyone else, or you will very swiftly learn what it's like to be curb stomped yourself.

    • @miwestraveler3986
      @miwestraveler3986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Meta Rocket tag gameplay.

    • @Phikinnie
      @Phikinnie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Perfect explanation

    • @ne0space
      @ne0space 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

      "hmm today I will cast agi on minotaur"
      *clueless ^*

    • @Fattybobatty1224
      @Fattybobatty1224 3 ปีที่แล้ว +51

      @@ne0space WALTER STOP

    • @NEETKitten
      @NEETKitten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      @@ne0space Behold my demons!

  • @Deadpool710
    @Deadpool710 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

    “Like persona but you have 3 personas”
    YOU HAVE ALERTED THE HORDE
    /s

  • @concernedfish5574
    @concernedfish5574 3 ปีที่แล้ว +819

    Seeing people get into the mainline SMT games couldn't make me happier.

    • @elijahbradley704
      @elijahbradley704 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      despite only getting into mainline very recently, me too

    • @alsyrriad
      @alsyrriad 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@elijahbradley704 same here

    • @Bryantzerox
      @Bryantzerox 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      Would be nice to see some love for DDS and Raidou Kuzunoha as well.

    • @tchelikdabril9628
      @tchelikdabril9628 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Bryantzerox Soul Hackers, Majin Tenseis, Devil Summoner, Megami Tenseis, Devil Survivor as well.

    • @bergonath8851
      @bergonath8851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@elijahbradley704 It's never too late to hop in. Welcome aboard.

  • @wnabi8469
    @wnabi8469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1434

    the amount of smt fans that probably physically cringed when they heard “it’s just persona with 3 more persona” is astounding

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +581

      I was speaking from the perspective of someone who played persona first (me) I know persona's the spin off please stop throwing tomatamos at me

    • @wnabi8469
      @wnabi8469 3 ปีที่แล้ว +238

      @@foulenergy too good of an actor for your own good

    • @MacaroniTurtle
      @MacaroniTurtle 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Here

    • @magicmungis8822
      @magicmungis8822 3 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      At first I cringed then I was impressed with how well he understood everything about the games

    • @Venom3254
      @Venom3254 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

      Nah I'm good, I'm laughing at the explanation and the editing of it.

  • @ils4844
    @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +133

    Expanding on that "fictional characters in a Vortex World-y" place recently the SMT gacha mobile game "Dx2 Liberation" recently had a crossover event with SONIC THE HEDGEHOG as an actual demon to use, and there's an ACTUAL PLOT TO IT. It's as ridiculous as it sounds but yeah it's a thing. Basically though some dude decided to hook up their demon summoning program to an old game cabinet and that somehow summoned Sonic.

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +64

      It's probably someone trying to communicate that sega accidentally made sonic real and that's where the vtuber sonic model came from.

    • @neaosmt1562
      @neaosmt1562 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Dante exists in the shin megami tensei mulitverus

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@neaosmt1562 he don't but he's semi-canonically reinstated in Dx2 iirc.

    • @TuxDroid
      @TuxDroid หลายเดือนก่อน

      The entire SMT is a multiverse marked by the decisions of its protagonists, the Amala multiverse. In some universes the Demi Fiend meets Dante, in others a version of Raidou.

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@TuxDroid It's actually the Amala Network, and its protagonists more often than not don't really leave any lasting marks in reality In the grand scheme of things at least, which aren't an important focus anyways. All you need to know is that demifiend wasn't a major player in the war against heaven that happened after nocturne since the multiverse needs to treat a regular demon ending demifiend, shijima ending demifiend and TDE demifiend with all the same importance, which is bumfuck since we cant leverage one over the other since that would put one ending above the rest even though the game is already doing that in terms of content. Tbf with the multiverse approach it's implied the SMTV protag is working on the liberation of universes finally in a way that doesn't suck most of the time but thats about it.
      Heading back to that point about the AN, other games like SMTIV don't bring up the AN, so a more accurate description is that hell portals can presumably all lead into eachother and interconnect since it's like a giant WAN network. Makai, Vortex World, Schwarzweldt, the expanse, Da'at, netherworld, whatever you want to call it they're all just variations of the same concept of demon infested hell on a different plane of existence. In the context of Nocturne, the AN only accounts for worlds in transitory states of rebirth, hence it can't be used as a catch all term, it's more like a LAN for its specific functions. Of course none of this has a proper terminology though besides the basic concept of the multiverse, isn't that great?!
      It's not like it matters though, I'd take compelling writing and characters over multiverse nonsense which is paradoxically trying to validate and at the same time invalidate all the endings a game is going on.
      As for Dante vs Raidou meetups yeah why not it could be either or.

  • @antiranti
    @antiranti 3 ปีที่แล้ว +531

    The editing was hot

  • @darklordliam
    @darklordliam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +832

    It’s only insane because they choose to be ignorant of what Pokémon could be.

    • @MiguelAngel-go4ck
      @MiguelAngel-go4ck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      I mean the whole point of pokemon is to be as easy as an rpg gets

    • @Phikinnie
      @Phikinnie 3 ปีที่แล้ว +61

      @@MiguelAngel-go4ck sometimes they’re even bad at making it bad

    • @SonnyFRST
      @SonnyFRST 3 ปีที่แล้ว +52

      @@MiguelAngel-go4ck Just because it is this way, doesn't mean it HAS to be this way. Pokémon would most certainly benefit from bringing some of the older players back. (I bet they might even outnumber the "fresh crowds" by now)

    • @MiguelAngel-go4ck
      @MiguelAngel-go4ck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      @@SonnyFRST i agree but from a corporate viewpoint it makes no sense, if games like nocturne werent that popular is because it wasnt accesible by everyone, games like pokemon can be played by literally everyone no matter their skill level so it is free profit

    • @SonnyFRST
      @SonnyFRST 3 ปีที่แล้ว +27

      @@MiguelAngel-go4ck “On my business card, I am a corporate president. In my mind, I am a game developer. But in my heart, I am a gamer.” - Satoru Iwata

  • @Tater_Soup
    @Tater_Soup 3 ปีที่แล้ว +527

    The editing is dumb and appeals to my dumb brain.

  • @butchdeadlift7551
    @butchdeadlift7551 3 ปีที่แล้ว +72

    "Teleport them to the Liveleak dimension"
    Brilliant line lol

  • @foulenergy
    @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Music used:
    Rocket slime OST - Tank battle 0:00
    SMT Nocturne OST - Large map Real universe 1:13
    SMT 4 Apocalypse OST - Enemy of god 2:03
    SMT Nocturne OST - Mystery 2:07
    gotye-somebody that I used to know, wokeuplikethis remix 2:31
    Macintosh plus - [just search the guys name, the song title is in japanese and I have an American keyboard] 3:01
    Rain world OST - Bio-engineering 3:08
    Dead rising OST - Mall music 3 5:17
    Xcom 2 tactical legacy pack OST - Covert operations 5:55
    DMC 5 OST - any special orders tropical remix 6:56
    Half life 2 OST - Apprehension and evasion 7:00
    Danganronpa V3 OST - DX Training Plan 8:19
    Pac man championship edition 2 OST Pac tropica 9:23
    Persona 3 OST - Deep Breath 11:49
    Persona 3 OST - Mass destruction : 11:58
    Persona 5 OST - Last Suprise 12:00
    SMT Nocturne OST - Boss battle 12:30

    • @ShaimingLong
      @ShaimingLong 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      Thanks for providing the music list, too many TH-camrs don't bother.
      Incidentally, now I have that Dead Rising mall music stuck in my head, and after all that SMT music that is surely a crime!

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm pretty inconsistent about doing it, Van Darkholme had to ask for it before I remembered. He also put together a playlist for it that I put in the description.

  • @ultrakleptomania
    @ultrakleptomania 3 ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Angels, Demons, and *Thor*
    I love the way he says it, like Thor is just kind of his own category

    • @StudioRevoct
      @StudioRevoct 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      He's part of the American Ambassador archetype (really play smt 1)

  • @delphidelion
    @delphidelion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +337

    Full kagatsuchi will also allow you to recruit demons you don't have the language for yet. You can use this to get a Petra in the initial hospital which will carry you for a while.

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +95

      At one point I was going to mention the demons who can't understand you/ won't join you but I couldn't find a good place to include it.
      I remember specifically the "raptor" type demon who's the only one in that lineage so it looks like he just made the family name up to use as an excuse to not join you.

    • @bancon666
      @bancon666 3 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@foulenergy you can also learn a skill that allows you to talk to them

    • @miwestraveler3986
      @miwestraveler3986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      You can also make the demons shit their pants and ask you for forgiveness in exchange for their eternal loyalty.
      I got a slime that way, anyway.

    • @kakizakichannel
      @kakizakichannel 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Full Kagatsuchi also lets you get rare items like stat incense

    • @Chr1s_1986
      @Chr1s_1986 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      But be carefull with that in my version (Lucifers call the European one) if you talk to demons that you normaly cant speak to the game gets stuck and you have to reset the ps2 xD.

  • @faidou9954
    @faidou9954 3 ปีที่แล้ว +512

    Just came here to say that SMT literally came before Pokemon, and all monster collecting rpgs.

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +88

      I thought one of the dragon quest games started the trend, does the first MT game pre-date that?

    • @fen6300
      @fen6300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +128

      @@foulenergy first MT Game was 1987

    • @wanderin_stud499
      @wanderin_stud499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      @@foulenergy Nope, Digital Devil Story got released in '87 but DQuest was in 85'.

    • @Arexion5293
      @Arexion5293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +227

      @@wanderin_stud499 The monster recruitment mechanic didn't exist in Dragon Quest until V in 1992. So Megami Tensei does indeed predate Dragon Quest when it comes to this specific mechanic.

    • @wanderin_stud499
      @wanderin_stud499 3 ปีที่แล้ว +75

      @@Arexion5293 If so, nice. One more to the mega-ten-did-it-first bucket list.

  • @glenmoody-elias1040
    @glenmoody-elias1040 3 ปีที่แล้ว +47

    "And Kidnap is strong against child."
    I knew that's exactly where the joke was going, and it still got me.

  • @Ganmorg
    @Ganmorg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +87

    I don't think I've ever seen someone jump into SMT blind and completely understand everything about its design and meaning and reason for being the way it is so quickly. Great vid

  • @MrDrCthulhu
    @MrDrCthulhu 3 ปีที่แล้ว +229

    SMT always seemed cool, but a bit too imposing for my tiny lizard brain, but this video was really cool and motivated me to give it a shot! Love to see some more from you.

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +40

      Thank you!
      Just go into it ready to spend some time learning how things work and be prepared to die a couple of times. They're hard games and even when you start getting a hang of things you're pretty likely to die a few times to each boss in order to learn how they work and figure out what kind of a team you need to make to counter them.

    • @delphidelion
      @delphidelion 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      If you are taking the dive just remember that these games are not difficult, they are essentially puzzles. If you take your time, strengthen demons against their weaknesses and make sure to buy all the different magatama you will have very little difficulty with the game.

    • @Noodlepunk
      @Noodlepunk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Just a tip debuffs and buffs are very very important.

    • @NEETKitten
      @NEETKitten 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@delphidelion ...As long as you don't play hard mode. Then you're spending an hour in the tutorial because of unlucky crits.

    • @dahitmann
      @dahitmann 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@foulenergy "couple times". Sir, that is such a huge understatement, you have rolled it right back into just being a statement.

  • @goleh4044
    @goleh4044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +436

    All your interpretation of the nature of demons and their intentions are actually used in the series. The fact that you got all this from nocturne which does not explain shit to player is astonishing. Please play more SMT games.

    • @daevious_
      @daevious_ 3 ปีที่แล้ว +119

      The only part that's missing is the whole "Demons are summoned through computers because coding allows people to streamline the long esoteric chants into text" part, and given that Nocturne avoids the modern technology angle, it's understandable.

    • @Antasma1
      @Antasma1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Which game(s) make that clear?

    • @goleh4044
      @goleh4044 3 ปีที่แล้ว +34

      @@Antasma1 IV Apocalypse puts the most effort into it.Honestly it's something you should put together reading supplementary material and interviews, some of which have fan translations.

    • @Antasma1
      @Antasma1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@goleh4044 When it comes to outside the games, I don't like needing to read the back of a cereal box to understand the lore

    • @Antasma1
      @Antasma1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@goleh4044 I'm impressed even Persona 5 made that clear with a line from Morgana

  • @JohnGaming55
    @JohnGaming55 3 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    That ending bit is godlike.

  • @ikhwananimationsbeyondweeb4528
    @ikhwananimationsbeyondweeb4528 3 ปีที่แล้ว +105

    The recommendation has blessed us with this wonderfully edited vid

  • @SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14
    @SoFarSoGoodSoWhat14 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    OK now I want a creature collection game but all the creatures are manifestations of 2000s youtubers

  • @alucas705
    @alucas705 3 ปีที่แล้ว +77

    Nothing will ever feel as good as getting my shit stomped by matador for hours and then coming back to that fight with a new bug and all new demons only to 2 turn him out of exisistance.

    • @wilcoxway
      @wilcoxway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Or in my case, my first match against Matador being a 1 hour struggle of just me whittling him down with my tank build.
      Fun fact: My first playthrough was on hardmode.

    • @PlayMadness
      @PlayMadness ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hello Matador, have you met my friends? This is Hifumi, this is Nekomata, and this lovely lady is Ame-no-Uzume. I'm sure you'll get along SWELL.

  • @scuffed7648
    @scuffed7648 3 ปีที่แล้ว +183

    This implies pokemon fans are not already insane. Also amazing review you deserve more subs.

    • @TheBrutalSax
      @TheBrutalSax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      SMT fans are insane in the same way as dark souls and ninja gaiden fans are
      Pokémon fans are insane in the same way meth addicts are, but instead of a substance their body depends on, it’s over a children’s game.

    • @rpgfanatic9719
      @rpgfanatic9719 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheBrutalSax A children's game that is far more popular than any turn based rpg and for good reason.

    • @TheBrutalSax
      @TheBrutalSax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

      @@rpgfanatic9719 wasn’t even dissing the game. I’m just saying, a lot of the fandom doesn’t realize they are not the target demographic for that series.
      Like Mfers complain the games are too easy, bro the game is literally designed to be potentially somebody’s gateway into video games. Of course it’s gunna be easy dude.

    • @rpgfanatic9719
      @rpgfanatic9719 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheBrutalSax It's designed for all ages. The campaign is easy as hell with the AI using basic tactics, but that doesn't mean advanced tactical strategies can't be used, and the game...at least gen 6 and 7 have free multiplayer to encourage players to play with others using advanced strategical moves and passive abilities the game provides. I do agree that people are dumb for complaining about how easy the AI is. Do people complain about smash bros having dumb AI? No, because they play a lot among themselves too much not to care. I do not know why people do not feel the same with Pokemon, especially since it's one of the most multiplayer focused RPGs out there that isn't an MMO.

    • @TheBrutalSax
      @TheBrutalSax 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      @@rpgfanatic9719 it’s designed for all ages yes, but the children are still the primary demographic. Nothing wrong with that, nothing wrong with being older and enjoying it. Older people are still encouraged to play it to some extent, and that’s why it’s not a baby game. But they are secondary to newcomers, mainly younger newcomers. That’s why they haven’t really tried to reinvent the wheel with that series like Nintendo is known for doing (or trying). Zelda is another series designed for all ages, but the primary demographic is the longtime fans, while still retaining the family friendliness, they’ve done stuff like going for stories that might be relatable to the older audience in some of the later entries. They feel like they don’t need to play it safe with that series.

  • @Nocturne989
    @Nocturne989 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Thank you for this dissertation on why CWCville is a Vortex World and the comic is the Bible for Chris-chan's Reason

  • @pinksoda9714
    @pinksoda9714 3 ปีที่แล้ว +33

    This went from a fun review to some kind of well-edited fever dream

  • @banjo304
    @banjo304 3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    This is quite literally the best SMT content I've seen on the internet in years.

  • @Yinlock470
    @Yinlock470 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2:27 smt1's first act starts with you going out to get coffee for your mom and ends with civilization being nuked off the map, smt always goes from 0 to 100 real quick

  • @kainthedragoon8081
    @kainthedragoon8081 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I love how the video just....ends without and closing remarks

  • @superbro6413
    @superbro6413 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    SMT Nocturne:
    Retaliate angrily by decking god in the jaw

  • @goatles9423
    @goatles9423 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    This video was my first significant look into mainline SMT, and it played a big part in my decision to play this after 100% completing P5R. I adore both Nocturne and this video, and even after watching it multiple times I still find new things in the ludicrous editing. Thank you for making this video. In my opinion it still stands as one of, if not the most comprehensive analyses of SMT

  • @alexanderbrooksify
    @alexanderbrooksify 3 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    the editing is very powerful, very cursed, very good
    Peter Griffin surrounded by wheels with eyes / 10

  • @riam850
    @riam850 3 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    We need Nostalgia Critic demon in SMT V.

  • @stopasking968
    @stopasking968 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Okay the 'screaming pony orb tulpa' joke made me laugh like I haven't in a long time, thank you.

  • @snailthelostcow63
    @snailthelostcow63 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    "probably anyone relevant enough to get a wikipedia page might manifest as a demon in the vortex world"
    Well... I mean... there's that spear wielding guy with cool looking sunglasses in Persona 2 so.... probably

    • @chiefbawor_thegr8966
      @chiefbawor_thegr8966 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      To be fair tho' the rule in Persona 2 and SMT 3 is a bit different

  • @NeviTheLettyFan
    @NeviTheLettyFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    The part with Joel killed me holy shit

  • @ils4844
    @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +160

    Yeah Shin Megami Tensei IV Apocalypse explains how all the demons are able to exist at once. Although people didn't like that since the game's story was written rather poorly for the most part.
    On another note a Vortex World filled with famous people or fictional characters could be totally possible given how SMT II and Megami Tensei II feature bootleg demons of characters from popular horror films.

    • @captainlastreo5160
      @captainlastreo5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      How dare you

    • @ils4844
      @ils4844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +28

      @@captainlastreo5160 IVA is poorly written in the sense that instead of coming up with actual normal justifications to go with Anarchy since it IS the better route overall they instead make the cast sucky annoying garbage.

    • @captainlastreo5160
      @captainlastreo5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@ils4844 oh wait, nevermind, just reread your comment
      characters weren't the best, that I'll give you

    • @TheDsLeet
      @TheDsLeet 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@captainlastreo5160 I thought the characters were fine for the most part with like one or two exceptions

    • @captainlastreo5160
      @captainlastreo5160 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@TheDsLeet Don't tell anyone, but I don't mind the characters, I only said that so that they wouldn't talk to me any further.

  • @firepuppies4086
    @firepuppies4086 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Fun fact... Michael Jackson was in SMT. Literally called Mr Thriller

  • @cameronkahn3317
    @cameronkahn3317 3 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    everyone playing this game remember to not get rid of the pixie you get at the start of the game trust me

  • @wonder6835
    @wonder6835 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    this vid is amazing. "its persona except you have three out at once" was also one of the things that got me into mainline smt from persona. i love that line.

  • @AnikiChad
    @AnikiChad 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    this is really great man

  • @imperfect_rain
    @imperfect_rain 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    "persona but you get 3 personas" has the be the most offensive, and yet accurate way you can describe SMT:3

    • @wilcoxway
      @wilcoxway 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's only offensive if you're an SMT fan with zero respect for the Persona spinoff series.

    • @umcaraqualquer3640
      @umcaraqualquer3640 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@wilcoxwayWhich tends to be about 90% of the 17 SMT fans out there

  • @wwesvr46
    @wwesvr46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    i can't stop watching the jack frost's slapping daisoujou bit it's just so good

  • @kryptidsilver8004
    @kryptidsilver8004 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Just came here to say that the thumbnail looked like Pikachu was licking the protagonists finger and it made me chuckle.

  • @alexbarclay7876
    @alexbarclay7876 3 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    Yeah, I’d totally watch you summarize more games like this one.

  • @JulioCruz261
    @JulioCruz261 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thanks for the new recommendation TH-cam, goddamn this editing was great and you summarized Nocturne in an extremely friendly way, hope this actually gets to anyone wanting to buy the Remaster next month

  • @Crybatty
    @Crybatty 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    the manikins freaked me out so bad, honestly the whole ginza underpass did

    • @southofheck
      @southofheck 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I thought they were kinda goofy and cute in a weird abomination kinda way.

  • @Ciretako
    @Ciretako 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    4:20 My man Foul Energy's talking about the concept of hyperstition!

  • @Burgorton
    @Burgorton 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I saw the dimensional merge gag and instantly subbed

  • @grubfriend
    @grubfriend 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    That ending had me doubling over in laughter oh my god. Also I'm glad someone said the whole "the battles are the fun part of SMT" thing because I felt a little crazy that SMT is the only turn-based JRPG I can stand because the grinding is fun??

  • @GreenerJoe
    @GreenerJoe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Lost it all when I saw Joel as a scandinavian, great video my friend, made my day.

  • @InsurgentHarbinger
    @InsurgentHarbinger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    SMT 3: Nocturne is like the Pokemon Colosseum of the SMT franchise. Both games are underrated and are probably the darkest on their own particular franchise that holds deep meaning of how grim the world can be in their own atmosphere.

  • @pureevil9496
    @pureevil9496 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Oh my God I wish I could collect Doug Walker in a Megaten game

  • @YellowJacketNinja375
    @YellowJacketNinja375 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    what the fuck, Kidnap is an actual skill in nocturne and it's actually super effective against childish demons

  • @arcuslux516
    @arcuslux516 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Remember that in Shin Megami Tensei 2 you can fuse HUMANS and DEMONS together.

  • @danield.6452
    @danield.6452 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This video is SO GOOD!
    Please review more SMT! You will LOVE the conversations with the demons in SMT IV...

  • @Pomokuri
    @Pomokuri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +148

    Great as always, though describing SMT as "Persona except with 3 personas" will undoubtedly earn you the ire of some people if taken a bit too literally.
    Also, if you plan on playing SMT4, definitely don't read too much about it before playing it. The game has (in my opinion) one of the most impactful twists in gaming rather early on, and it would be a shame to spoil yourself on it.

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

      Thank you, glad you liked it.
      I try to not say things that will annoy people to the point of making them find my house and put doodoo in my mailbox but "persona with 3 personas" was genuinely what I thought I was getting into at first. I even thought the moon cycles were supposed to be the date and you'd have a time management aspect to the game.
      Hopefully I haven't already been spoiled on 4 but I think I half know about the twist, hopefully not enough to lessen my enjoyment of it.

    • @Pomokuri
      @Pomokuri 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

      @@foulenergy You'll still very much enjoy the game even if you know the twist, but I'd be a shame to miss out on such a "holy shit" moment.

    • @kirbythekirb59
      @kirbythekirb59 3 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      @@foulenergy the only spoiler i'm gonna tell you is that you should learn bufu in the first part of the game

    • @NiGHTSnoob
      @NiGHTSnoob 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@kirbythekirb59 And Zan for immediately after that. I honestly think she is even harder than him.

    • @kirbythekirb59
      @kirbythekirb59 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@NiGHTSnoob she is, tbh i never understood why the minotaur boss fight is so famous, wile medusa's one isn't

  • @hadriennogueira3726
    @hadriennogueira3726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    This deserves waaaay more views

  • @Arexion5293
    @Arexion5293 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    This is probably the best SMT review I've seen so far. The editing is fantastic!

  • @koifishtheatre
    @koifishtheatre 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is the first video I've seen from you and the editing alone made this video amazing. Subbed.

  • @GrayD_Fox
    @GrayD_Fox ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That’d be hilarious if there was a Nostalgia Critic demon in SMT 6

  • @jamesfernandez300
    @jamesfernandez300 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is actually the best description I've seen of Nocturne

  • @plbster
    @plbster ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I first watched this video a year and a half ago and yet 7:50 still lives in my fucking head. I cannot hear someone say "goodbye" with that cadence without hearing that screaming sound effect.

  • @neuralinferno1765
    @neuralinferno1765 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Normally a review of a game wouldn't keep me for even 5 minutes but this video is so well edited and filled with jokes as well as actual information on the characters, real-world inspirations, world, and plot of SMT: Nocturne that I sat all the way to the abrupt cutoff at the end. It makes me happy to see mainline SMT getting some popularity because of the remaster of Nocturne and Upcoming SMT V after I myself got into it through SMT IV: Apocalypse not so long ago. For a channel with so few subscribers you definitely deserve more for the great work. Keep it up! 👍

  • @GeaForce
    @GeaForce 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "It's like persona... but you get 3 personas"
    That's the worst way I have seen someone describe mainline SMT. And I love it

  • @crypto_luigi
    @crypto_luigi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    One of the most underrated channels. Love your editing.

  • @bass2126
    @bass2126 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great review & amazing editing, glad a fan of Persona got into the mainline series, this whole franchise really deserves more attention, not just Persona, it's literally the pioneer of the monster collecting genre.

  • @VannMunson
    @VannMunson 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This deserves more attention. One of the most consise yet in-depth reviews on this game I've seen. You really hit all the bases

  • @NeviTheLettyFan
    @NeviTheLettyFan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That ending was wonderful, you really understand SMT

  • @engineercatgirl4797
    @engineercatgirl4797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You forgot about the most important part,
    s̷̨̢͕̞͈͉͎̰̋̓ţ̴̢̙̩̝̻͓̹̰̃̌́̀̈͝a̵̧̨̤̱̞̤͕̤̩̥͕̟͉̓̈́̐̽̚͝͠͝ţ̴͔͙̠̪̈̅̔̌̓̅u̵̠̠͓̞͍̔̿́ṣ̶̠̹̖̰̱̈̐̀͑̈͋̽͊̑̇̅ ̷̢̨͉̙̘̯̻͚̰̯̩̾̈́͊̊͋͋͆b̴͓̣̈́͌̿̂̽́̾͑ư̴̝̺͈͚͔͍͕͇̫̘̙̠͇̊̊̌͑͐̓͠͠ͅf̶̢̛̣͓̉̾f̸͕͇̔̐̅̍͛̀̀̽̊̆s̷̢̛̰̪͓̮͓̹̲̝̯̟͉͙͇̻͋͐͌̈́̀̓͝ ̶̢̟̲͍̖̯̮̘̗̗͙̩̩̔͋̑̿͒̎̽̂̅ä̸͕̑͆̅̉̽̒̎͘̕͜͝͝ņ̴͉͕͓̜̬̀̑̔̈́́͋̓̇̇̒̓̄d̵̢̛͍̽͋̈́̃͌́͒͝ ̶̭͖̥̠͗́́͋̓̇̾̊̌͝d̸̯̪͕̩̘̳̥̘̺̰̠̬͔̣̬̉̀͒͐͐͂̓͐͌̿͐̕͠͝ē̴͖̟͊̈̎̅̌̕͠b̶̡̧̗͎͖̟͉̼̗̘̍̊ù̵̡͕͔̟̝̺̫̮̭̟̬͓̝̹̦f̴͓̹̩͙̐̀͆̈́̎̔̇̌̕͝f̵̛͇͊͑̃͑̉́͌̕s̸̭̳̲̼̭̤̹͈̙̩̖͉͋͋̽͑̀̈̐͐̋́̓̀͝͝

  • @keebee46
    @keebee46 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man the favor and charm this video emits is so surreal I love it and it fits so well. SMT Nocturne got the atheistics with them demons and Kodamas and Dionysus. 10/10.

  • @CamStarkey
    @CamStarkey 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    My favorite part of this entire video is the turns say "GOODBYE UWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAH" please do more

  • @SapphireLibra3
    @SapphireLibra3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You actually explained SMT Nocturne extremely well.

  • @EA-bv8zk
    @EA-bv8zk 3 ปีที่แล้ว +107

    The voice that screams one more god rejected sounds like an emo kid that just went through puberty

  • @Orbitthemaster
    @Orbitthemaster 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This video actually has more depth and explains some of the game mechanics way better than some hour long reviews about this game.

  • @someguyparagon5273
    @someguyparagon5273 3 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Funny enough how recently a new trailer for Nocturne is coming out...
    *Now Nocturne can be experienced for steam!!!*
    I'm ready for Nocturne on PS4!

    • @foulenergy
      @foulenergy  3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Wow, It doesn't seem real, Atlus were so bad about porting stuff since forever and now P4G and nocturne are on steam.
      Hopefully SMT5 will follow and not be limited to switch exclusivity for 15 years

  • @rustingflamberge
    @rustingflamberge 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love your hypothetical world where Nostalgic Critic is a demon in a SMT game

  • @ghost_neeko8107
    @ghost_neeko8107 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is such a well put together video, great job dude

  • @TyroneCLove
    @TyroneCLove 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    When I played nocturne for the first time way back on PS2 I described it to my brother as black metal pokemon.

  • @PineappleLiar
    @PineappleLiar 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There’s also the chests in game that have improved drops if you’re willing to wait until a full Kagatsuchi to open them. Sure, if you find a chest right as a full moon ends that means sitting in a room for 5 minutes running in circles and getting pelted by random encounters every cycle that sucks. But also, the item you get usually goes from ‘minor healing item’ to ‘free level up for a stat and full heal’ or ‘full party full heal item’ so it’s usually worth it.

  • @FEARitself100
    @FEARitself100 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    ok this is the best explanation of one of my fav SMT games

  • @alexanderC5673
    @alexanderC5673 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    As a very cold swede I can confirm this

  • @makingmusiccrippled9581
    @makingmusiccrippled9581 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jesus christ this is so well made i was expecting you to have like at least 600k subs or like a few million but 3k? dud youre gonna grow very fast I feel it

  • @pipemarinmontes
    @pipemarinmontes 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i literally just got TDE on Nocturne and watching this video is the best thing ever. The editing is GODLIKE

  • @ballsacjohn8842
    @ballsacjohn8842 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I'm living for the editing.
    Grade A SMT content.

  • @mh-lh7jr
    @mh-lh7jr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    God tier editing, music choices, etc. subbed. Welcome to SMT

  • @followertheleader
    @followertheleader 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Left a like because of the image at 11:45

  • @MakoTenseii
    @MakoTenseii 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Eyy cool video man. Love the editing

  • @BlackKanye
    @BlackKanye 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Your editing style just speaks to me on a primal level

  • @nfwrambo
    @nfwrambo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Ah, a game where the forces of chaos win and everyone gets sucked into the warp occasionally, neat

  • @joyo650
    @joyo650 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    As someone who's tried to describe this game to people for the past 10 years, I appreciate how you did it. Thanks for the laugh and knowledge I'm not alone in loving this stuff.

  • @o0Hidden0o
    @o0Hidden0o ปีที่แล้ว

    12:50 Nothing, no visual, I have ever seen in my life has so perfectly captured how this feels. The only possible improvement is including a black frost, but it pretty sure you couldn’t have him at this point without being ng+. Thank you.

  • @weepingblade
    @weepingblade 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    This feels almost like a Mr.Plinkett video but if Mr.Plinkett was a chill normal human.

  • @Authorwithanimeicon
    @Authorwithanimeicon 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This video was recommended to me all of a sudden and I can't believe it took me this long to see it. You had me with your editing style, god how long has it been since a youtube video literally caused me to enter a coughing fit from how hysterical it is. That said, the content of the video is really well written and engaging too! Properly explaining some ideas in Nocturne that even I didn't pick up during my (short) initial playthrough. I'm excited to see what future content you make, you've really wowed me.

  • @seth7726
    @seth7726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    fuck yes, this channel also has smt cuntent with the same level of editing that causes severe brain damage. Ima stay here a while longer

  • @NarffetWerlz
    @NarffetWerlz 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I've enjoyed this game for most of its nigh-20 year existence and you've perfectly captured its essence. Bravo

  • @goeckedude
    @goeckedude 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A persona fan joining mainline? Music from Rain World? Your taste is good, king.

  • @heinokunzelmann8967
    @heinokunzelmann8967 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Your editing style is super interesting. Good video!