I have Can Do Pressure Washing in Houston TX using the same type of 12VDC pump soft wash system and SH. My primary surfactant is Max Cling from Northern Tool. For rinsing after the SH application, I use my pressure washing system instead of a garden hose. DO NOT FREAK OUT - I just use the gun / wand / extension with NO tip and reduce the engine RPM. I do from the ground or ladder. This provides a far higher water volume for faster and better rinsing, and the pressure is about the same as a garden hose so no damage.
From what i have seen, 10 to 20% SH, 10% Dawn, and 70 to 80% water works great on Tile Roofs, also most people use it as a prewash and then follow it up with there surface cleaner and since the SH works so quickly you can move through the power washing step very quickly and get the roof done in less time. Though I know a lot of people don't want to do that step and that is why they do soft washes in the first place.
Loser Squad HD 123 you void the roof warranty when you do high pressure and you do destroy the tiles with it. Also don’t try this down here in Florida or you will slip and fall because some of those tiles are glaced and others are filled up with sudd from the sugar cane burning which stays behind even after cleaning as a once wet so slippery film you simply can’t walk on those tiles.
No, if you know what your doing, you can pressure wash any roof , I've done it for years, now I down stream . Don't use dawn, use laundry detergent, much better.
There is a problem with this method, IF the roof was put on in Florida in the early 2000s. At that time, they were using "Polystick" as the underlayment, and screwing the tiles directly through the underlayment into the deck with galvanized deck screws. If you use SH (sodium hypochlorite) it will attack the deck screws, which leads to corrosion and then small roof leaks as the screws loose their tight seals to the polystick. This creates numerous small roof leaks, all over the roof. The leaks are usually small, but in Florida quickly lead to large sections of the deck being effected and ultimately rotting out. This is particularly true near ridge vents. Thus, it is wise to go the slow and proven method of pressure-washing with mild chemicals. It takes a lot longer, but extends the life of the roof by at least ten years.
You are correct that is why we try to avoid flooding the roof with chemicals. And washing off with Water the roof before we complete the job to dilute the chemical down to drinking water level.
So, there is more news. I have seen this now on 6 other homes, who had their roofs done, at the same time I did mine 21 years ago... With Milton giving us a direct hit, many of the roofs with hip lines has their mudded on roof tile lines become completely loose and sometimes blow off the roof or move several inches to a foot. While these cap tiles did have a hole for a screw, the roofer, cut a corner and used no long screw. So, on all the roofs that were bathed in "softwash" the tiling stucco adhesive is failing! Research on this is slim, but I did find a couple of articles out of Europe that indicated that any type of chlorine product, changes the actual matrix characteristics of the mud, eventually making it brittle, crumbly, and losing all adhesive power! This is the only reason I can find to describe the condition change in these roofs relative to mine.
Hey, i have a few questions- can we use sh on driveway tiles? Why not use fan tip(45 degree) and cover lot of area instead of using pin point tip? Is it a bad idea to use high-pressure washer directly? It seems to clean well for me without any chemicals
It is low pressure. We apply only with up to 100psi. The 0 degree tip allows us to still apply in area's where there is wind and the customer does not want us to walk on their roof.
Thank you for asking the question. The answer is "NO" what cause it is the algae which you see it black but can be green as well eat's into the clay tile and destroy's the clay tile over time. So What you can do is clean it proper and than apply a sealer which run's you about $150 per 500sf. It is a concrete sealer you can spray apply. What destroy's shingles in general a lot more is high water pressure. That is why we only recommend soft wash methods to extend to lifetime of a roof. On Asphalt almost to 40 years and Clay/Concrete over 80 years. Also surfactant ensure you do not have to use as much chemicals. And when you see the chemical reaction that it's turning into white foam it is the SH reacting with the organic matter. Once you no longer see that happening you cleaned the roof as good as possible. Sometimes black marks are permanently embedded in shingles which you no longer can remove without destroying the tile itself by using high pressure methods.
Hi, I need some information, please. What pressure washer can do 21 litres per minute at 1500psi if you are cleaning about 50.meters height and your source of water (pressure washer) is on a truck on the ground?
Most all modern Pressure Washers pumps with 13HP engines can run 5.5GPM so 21 liter a min pumps at up to 5000psi. All you do is to reduce on the pressure control value the pressure down to your 1500psi and you are golden. And we run all on trailers so we carry 300 gallon tote tanks on our trailers but when we run big job's we let a water truck Company show up from where we can use 3000-9000 Gallons of water no problem.
Question I ran my chemical injector until it was empty. I continued running it even while it was empty for a while. Then once I realized it I disconnected it and never pushed water through it. Think it’s ruined? I don’t think I even put much sh through it it was a crappy zep concrete cleaner
Why aren't you walking the roof with a fan tip. I like that you aren't shooting under the tiles though. Try using a carwash soap to keep it wet. I like using something with rainX in it.
Here in Florida the roof is so slippery you try to avoid under all cost to walk on the roof. I had a single story roof I had to walk on and slipped and slided to the point of no control once. After that I stopped walking on the roof especially on a 2 story it is way to risky.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 That makes perfect sense. Maybe think about an extension pole with a 90° bend in it. I'll try to think of something to help with that. My brother is very smart when it comes to thinking outside of the box. I'll bring it up to him too. Be safe and happy washing.
@@mathewgriffith341 I do have 30' extension poles made out of fiberglass but they weight about 130lbs now crawl up a 26' ladder with it and than position yourself like a boom crane. Maybe HULK can hold that and work it for hours but for me it's to heavy and also it bend's to much when extended out so far. Which brings me back to the method I currently use. I used a different setup now with a PVC 10' and 10' extension pipe where needed still using the same tips to shoot up to 30' to cover the full roof. Like I done for a customer down in Wellington to clean her roof which on a 1 Story Level was so slippery I would not even attempt to walk on an 20year old roof tile which may break just on my weight walking on it.
It’s awesome that you provide so much info. If I lived in the Central Florida area I would have you do my roof. Lolo Thanks! Also, what type of safety gear do you use? I’m sure Mask, goggles, chemical proof coveralls?
I do use a respirator and that's it. If you aren't trained good I would recommend good shoes as well. And ensure you have somewhere fresh water available like we store about 100 gallon of water in our buffer tank and have a 1" dump valve on it in case something happens.
nope have no need to use xjetting we upgraded to full diaphram setup which shoots with our own JROD's up to 60ft now no problem. Our biggest worry is chemicals to run of the roof and may harm or kill plants below or grass.
Using the Xjet on a roof would require having a container/ bucket on the roof with you, that could turn into an unsafe situation very fast. Very risky, be safe if you do..... Good Luck!
I'm from australia I got terracotta roof to clean where it's full of moss, I got pressure wash the roof but I want moss to get lose from surfaces so cleaning gets easy for me and if I apply this product and going to pressure wash roof what do you recommend time I should wait after applying the product and before pressure washing.
Hello Malik, how big of a green gray moss area do you have? I would recommend you use 8% SH with DAWN soap mixed with water and soak spray it on and leave it on for 1h on the moss areas. Than you spray the full roof with 3% SH water mix as a Softwash. Make sure the chemical reaction starts within 10-15sec of you spray on the chemical. Let is sit for another 45-60 min and than you use Just Jet water so use your high pressure 20liter a min pump and just rinse it all off. High pressure void's the warranty of any roof material and can destroy it meaning you be liable for the damage. Message me via email to store@lumanet.info with photos and I guide you thru the work process. Moss has roots which grow into the tile material and so with the chemical you destroy the organic matter without breaking the tile material ending with a very happy customer and a finished product you can drone document or photos take for your portfolio.
Congratulations for the work and whim! Doesn't this mixture of chemicals damage the color of the walls of the house? And if the tiles are painted with acrylic paint or some waterproofing, is there a risk of SH staining?
The Chemical can damage the paint on the house, one main reason you have a 2nd person below you ensuring nothing hit's or stay's on anything other than the roof itself. A lot of Companies like to use a flooding method which I fully disagree with. I prefer to spay just the right about to the right areas. Which takes more time but much better results and happier customers because they honor it more when they know you spend a good amount of time cleaning their roof and even had them confirm first that they are pleased with the result before final payment is made. SH staining can happen but that's why you wet those area's. Also if tiles are painted over you see it when you come onsite and work your way onto the roof for inspection before you start the job. I also if we notice there is a glaze on the shingles for example talk first with the house owner to find out if this is produced or afterwards installed. If the Home owner doesn't know lift care fully a single up with a flat iron to get 1" space between 2 rows to confirm it for yourself. Always be open with customers and bring up any concerns you may have. If onsite find out the job is to risky inform your customer about your concerns and if they mind to sign wavers. Lay it out for them in a nice way. But cover your 6 because even a now maybe mad customer will be maybe put a negative review so be it but you don't have a law suite against you.
Any Diaphragm pump can run SH without a problem. Just when done you run pure water thru it and you are all good. I run the water thru it anyhow when I rinse of the roof or house siding anyhow :-)
really depends on the house and access too, most single story start at $299 but can go up to like $3000 when like it's a 8000sf house with Boat docks which are 1/4 mile away from the road so that we have to carry it all down there.
I do use SLOWFLO but the foam is because of the higher concentration of SH in my mix which reacts instantly with the black algea on the roof shingle which is open poor so you don't have much run off with my method because I am not like a lot others just flooding the roof with chemicals.
Thanks a lot I appreciate it is there anything else you could tell me how to get started on this I can’t find out how much bleach to use for a 2000 square-foot house I know you mix it with the thought of fourth of water and soap but how many bottles of bleach what I need to buy is what I’m trying to find out
@@benderprofessionalservices9018 Check out some of my Video's where I did build my new Softwash Rig. You do need 2 Tanks one for Water and one for Sodium Hypochloride with mixing valve's. Chlorine, Bleach is just a common name for Sodium Hyprochloride. The importance is the percentage you going to use.
Most of the chemicals get's neutralized when it is reacting with the algae on the roof. About 90% is been used up by the algae itself the rest is been watered down and destroyed by the UV light from the sun within hours. I hope this answers your question. So when you dilute SH with water it get's also neutralized to a safe drinking level as well. Most City Water's do contain SH just so you know.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 Hi, I'm doing your soft wash cleaning work in Turkey. Washing detergents are not here, I'm trying to mix some detergents myself to create solutions. From my research, you mix water with hypo and add surfactant. Surfactant ? Is it the substance that gives soap and shower gel foam and its density?
Email me to store@lumanet.info but take a look a dish soap's for starters which is only 100% surfactant and water. I bet you find some in your Edeka store.
We ended up with 94 liter at 13% SH. We lost about 26 Liter on the first day because the rain started to down poor on us so the SH was back to been just water.... :-( Also don't forget these roof tiles had no sealer or glace on it so almost 50% are absorb into the single itself and won't run off. So double check what type of roof you are washing. Like brand new glace tiles I use on a same size roof about 35 liter.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 that's what I'm leaning towards buying. How is it does it just make it or is it good and sturdy with some more to spare?
Why not use a flat surface cleaner on a carbon fiber pole ? Totally biological and probably a better result .. There are flat surface cleaners that will work on a pole .. . i think you may find it is a very good option
Simple answer : You void manufacture warranty of the roof. And are in for a law suit from the owner and roofing Company. The American Roofing Association states clearly only to use Soft Wash methods with SH to clean roofing in the USA. And 2nd with a flat surface you need walk on the roof no fiber glass pole will work without you having to walk on those roofs. I had roof where we had to walk on it it is posted on our website which is over 8000sf big where a 2000sf pool screen porch didn't gave us any other access. So we walked on it and 15 tiles broke in the process which lucky us we knew it will happen so we had replacement tiles bought upfront and once finished we replaced those all for the Home Owner free of charge. And here in Florida the slip and fall risk is over 80% when you walk on those black algae roofs even with a 3/12 pitch you will come down hard. Which jacks up our insurance so we don't do it.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 Sounds like a lot of burocracy there putting people off starting a small business... it is bad enough where i am .. but sure buddy i get your point... ironically using Hypo here in Germany i think is illegal because of the ground water..
@@fensterputzernuernbergerlangen Nope it is fully legal also in good old Deutschland because as you may not realize every drinking water is containing it as well. In German you call it Chlor which is also use in every public swimming pool too. As long you rinse off with water it will dilute to the point that is is neutralized.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 A swimming pool is a public domain and so have water systems im place to contain and reclaim ; Chlor used in the toilet gets flushed down the into the water system. But water which has Bleach in it running of gutters , walls etc have in most cases are not directed to the water sytem... You have to Reclaim it thsi water if possible . If Bleach is legal to be used in Germany on roofs and walls etc ( external applications ) i would glad to know this but i am pretty sure it is not allowed Sir because it seeps into the ground water. i am not saying i know this as a fact 100 % but i am pretty confident that it is not allowed .
Wouldn't a 50/50 mix on a pre wetted roof, sprayed in a fan patern have got into all the areas first spray and been quicker? Seen jobs like this done in an hour, a days a very long time, thats like taking a day to spray your lawn
Yes and no. if you pre wet a roof the solution will not stay in place. 2nd you do not walk on those concrete shingles or even clay tile shingles. You will break first the singles and than end up sliding and falling of the roof. On asphalt shingles which have a lower pitch and it's safer to walk on you can apply it by walking on the roof without slipping and falling. The risk of falling on those tiles is way to great and don't forget we are in Florida so our roof pitches are a lot differ from what is been build up north. If there is any little bit on of water on the roof as you try to clean it is is like soak water, extremely slippery and you will destroy customer property and might end up killing yourself.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 hey, I'm doing the same on very high residences in Europe. What's the surfactant you're using? Can't order it from EU it's a pain! Thank you and keep up brother 🇫🇷😉☀️
If you have brushes you either pre wet or cover them up with plastic sheeting. On this particular house we had no brushes to cover up since it was all only grass. Importance like I state it is a 2 person job.
Thank you for asking and not if you are shooting onto the roof while having wind. If you can walk on the roof you can use a 40 or 25 degree tip. But for distance you need a 0 degree with pressure in order to shoot up onto the roof.
Yes use %13 SH and Surfactant with Water. Depending on the strength you need to apply mix in the Water. Most roof will require a 3-5% SH to Water mix. So for every Gallon of SH 13% you use 0.8 Gallon on 10 Gallon of water and you get a very close mixture of around 5% ... hope I didn't screw up on math.
@@jamesmitchell6288 lower more about 5-6% at the end. You don't want it to high and apply more in layers or you might have problems with the underside/material which is under the shingle. Less is more just ensure it's run off is reduced that's why a surfactant is so important.
actually you do. Those old Boral tiles breaking apart because of the Florida sun. Now you put pressure to it and they break into pieces. I suggest you better learn your industry and their products before you comment on it.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 I own a pressure washing company in Florida cleaned over 1,000 roofs I’ve seen the blackest of black roofs never put 12% lol your a clown
okay you spoke about how dangerous the stuff is .. so why in heavens would you wanna leave it on your roof ??? the correct way is to put that stuff on and immediately wash it off ... You need a some type of rinse cycle going on you don't leave bleach in your clothes right?? now I want you to make a video of the roof in about 4 years and look at how much its faded .. these soft wash companies in south florida crack me up .. they're leaving you with problems in the future .. I guess if one is just renting the property they won't care but to a home owner they might want to be cautious
ok a few things you can't see but we saw onsite was a thunderstrom was moving in which was a down poor so mother nature did the rinse for us. But the other thing you also should know those roof tiles are not easy to clean up with just water because they are very poors so they absorb like a sponge and don't release even when you wash down with thousand of gallon's. Watch a little closer on the video and you will see when I only apply a thin layer that the tile is fully absorbing the chemical. With the lower pitch roofs down here in Florida things are a lot different from up north. The bigger importance is the run off to be neutralized with water on the ground so it don't destroy plants and grass.
Dee double u for one the method he is using is the proper method that (Arma) the shingle manufacturer recommends to clean there product . You cant just spray 4% mix up there and rinse it right off ,you have to give it time to kill the mold/ mildew or any other organic growth on the roof.Sodium hypochlorite is a sanitizer and cleaner for many things,also it is in our water that we drink ,its part of the cleaning process of the water to kill off any bacteria in the city drinking water.Sodium Hydroxide is also an Oxidizer ,which is why your trying to say 4 years later look at the roofs that these softwash companies do,but what you dont understand is ...so is the sun ,the sun is responsible for 90% oxidation ,so that means if a homeowner has is roof soft washed the correct way,because it has black Algae all over it ,the end product you are seeing is the roof being restored to its original color,which usually has not been seen for many many years.If it was the wrong way to clean a roof ARMA would not endorse it on there shingles.And if it was the wrong way ,i would of been out of business 19 years ago.....dont quit your day job
@@scottruch674 don't forget ARMA focus on asphalt shingles, Roof tile shingles absorb the fluid you stray on differently. 80% of what you spray on is absorbed by the shingles once you did a section of a roof it already worked it's way in under 2 min thru the shingle so once you apply the water it dilute it's strength down till it's no longer a hazard. When you do asphalt shingles you have only the very thin surface to clean so you use less strength and more surfactant .
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 yes but Arma has said over and over again through research it dont matter the style roof or material,a soft wash is the way to do a roof period ,and yes the tiles react the same as a wood shingled roof it absorbs quickly but depending on how bad they are ,you have to let them set and do there thing,they can be stubborn sometimes, i put as little of my mix as possible in an area and gauge how long it takes to start working .I also use proportioners on my setups to quickly adjust things ,ive been in this game since 2001 full time for a living, so that guys comments gave me a good laugh .And fyi good video
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I have Can Do Pressure Washing in Houston TX using the same type of 12VDC pump soft wash system and SH. My primary surfactant is Max Cling from Northern Tool.
For rinsing after the SH application, I use my pressure washing system instead of a garden hose. DO NOT FREAK OUT - I just use the gun / wand / extension with NO tip and reduce the engine RPM. I do from the ground or ladder. This provides a far higher water volume for faster and better rinsing, and the pressure is about the same as a garden hose so no damage.
From what i have seen, 10 to 20% SH, 10% Dawn, and 70 to 80% water works great on Tile Roofs, also most people use it as a prewash and then follow it up with there surface cleaner and since the SH works so quickly you can move through the power washing step very quickly and get the roof done in less time. Though I know a lot of people don't want to do that step and that is why they do soft washes in the first place.
Loser Squad HD 123 you void the roof warranty when you do high pressure and you do destroy the tiles with it. Also don’t try this down here in Florida or you will slip and fall because some of those tiles are glaced and others are filled up with sudd from the sugar cane burning which stays behind even after cleaning as a once wet so slippery film you simply can’t walk on those tiles.
No, if you know what your doing, you can pressure wash any roof , I've done it for years, now I down stream . Don't use dawn, use laundry detergent, much better.
Remember the Dawn soaps gonna lower the pH in the SH I had a good idea
Few questions
How do you charge customers? Per Squareft, Hight, how dirty it is, ext……????
Do you have a rig?
There is a problem with this method, IF the roof was put on in Florida in the early 2000s. At that time, they were using "Polystick" as the underlayment, and screwing the tiles directly through the underlayment into the deck with galvanized deck screws. If you use SH (sodium hypochlorite) it will attack the deck screws, which leads to corrosion and then small roof leaks as the screws loose their tight seals to the polystick. This creates numerous small roof leaks, all over the roof. The leaks are usually small, but in Florida quickly lead to large sections of the deck being effected and ultimately rotting out. This is particularly true near ridge vents. Thus, it is wise to go the slow and proven method of pressure-washing with mild chemicals. It takes a lot longer, but extends the life of the roof by at least ten years.
You are correct that is why we try to avoid flooding the roof with chemicals. And washing off with Water the roof before we complete the job to dilute the chemical down to drinking water level.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 hello. Wondering which nozzle you are using here? Thanks
Great point ! I’m starting to get away from SH , now using sodium percarbonate
So, there is more news. I have seen this now on 6 other homes, who had their roofs done, at the same time I did mine 21 years ago... With Milton giving us a direct hit, many of the roofs with hip lines has their mudded on roof tile lines become completely loose and sometimes blow off the roof or move several inches to a foot. While these cap tiles did have a hole for a screw, the roofer, cut a corner and used no long screw. So, on all the roofs that were bathed in "softwash" the tiling stucco adhesive is failing! Research on this is slim, but I did find a couple of articles out of Europe that indicated that any type of chlorine product, changes the actual matrix characteristics of the mud, eventually making it brittle, crumbly, and losing all adhesive power! This is the only reason I can find to describe the condition change in these roofs relative to mine.
@@kimariokiji I like to know to since I am in California and try to clean mine.
1. What was the cost?
2. How many sh gallons did it took?
3. Around what was the Sq footage of the roof?
Hey, i have a few questions- can we use sh on driveway tiles? Why not use fan tip(45 degree) and cover lot of area instead of using pin point tip? Is it a bad idea to use high-pressure washer directly? It seems to clean well for me without any chemicals
It is low pressure. We apply only with up to 100psi. The 0 degree tip allows us to still apply in area's where there is wind and the customer does not want us to walk on their roof.
How much do you charge a roof like this?
Some one told me the bleach opens poors in the clay tiles and makes it so you got to wash it more often is that true looks good
Thank you for asking the question. The answer is "NO" what cause it is the algae which you see it black but can be green as well eat's into the clay tile and destroy's the clay tile over time. So What you can do is clean it proper and than apply a sealer which run's you about $150 per 500sf. It is a concrete sealer you can spray apply. What destroy's shingles in general a lot more is high water pressure. That is why we only recommend soft wash methods to extend to lifetime of a roof. On Asphalt almost to 40 years and Clay/Concrete over 80 years.
Also surfactant ensure you do not have to use as much chemicals. And when you see the chemical reaction that it's turning into white foam it is the SH reacting with the organic matter. Once you no longer see that happening you cleaned the roof as good as possible. Sometimes black marks are permanently embedded in shingles which you no longer can remove without destroying the tile itself by using high pressure methods.
Hi, I need some information, please. What pressure washer can do 21 litres per minute at 1500psi if you are cleaning about 50.meters height and your source of water (pressure washer) is on a truck on the ground?
Most all modern Pressure Washers pumps with 13HP engines can run 5.5GPM so 21 liter a min pumps at up to 5000psi. All you do is to reduce on the pressure control value the pressure down to your 1500psi and you are golden. And we run all on trailers so we carry 300 gallon tote tanks on our trailers but when we run big job's we let a water truck Company show up from where we can use 3000-9000 Gallons of water no problem.
Question I ran my chemical injector until it was empty. I continued running it even while it was empty for a while. Then once I realized it I disconnected it and never pushed water through it. Think it’s ruined? I don’t think I even put much sh through it it was a crappy zep concrete cleaner
Take it apart and clean the ball and spring those love to get stuff on them which causes them to seal shut or stay wide open.
Why aren't you walking the roof with a fan tip. I like that you aren't shooting under the tiles though. Try using a carwash soap to keep it wet. I like using something with rainX in it.
Here in Florida the roof is so slippery you try to avoid under all cost to walk on the roof. I had a single story roof I had to walk on and slipped and slided to the point of no control once. After that I stopped walking on the roof especially on a 2 story it is way to risky.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 That makes perfect sense. Maybe think about an extension pole with a 90° bend in it. I'll try to think of something to help with that. My brother is very smart when it comes to thinking outside of the box. I'll bring it up to him too. Be safe and happy washing.
@@mathewgriffith341 I do have 30' extension poles made out of fiberglass but they weight about 130lbs now crawl up a 26' ladder with it and than position yourself like a boom crane. Maybe HULK can hold that and work it for hours but for me it's to heavy and also it bend's to much when extended out so far. Which brings me back to the method I currently use. I used a different setup now with a PVC 10' and 10' extension pipe where needed still using the same tips to shoot up to 30' to cover the full roof. Like I done for a customer down in Wellington to clean her roof which on a 1 Story Level was so slippery I would not even attempt to walk on an 20year old roof tile which may break just on my weight walking on it.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 Still going to try and think something up for you. 👍
Can you actually walk on a
Clay roof? It won’t brake?
It’s awesome that you provide so much info. If I lived in the Central Florida area I would have you do my roof. Lolo Thanks!
Also, what type of safety gear do you use? I’m sure Mask, goggles, chemical proof coveralls?
I do use a respirator and that's it. If you aren't trained good I would recommend good shoes as well. And ensure you have somewhere fresh water available like we store about 100 gallon of water in our buffer tank and have a 1" dump valve on it in case something happens.
How hot was the mix for this roof, thanks
He stated 12.5%
Have you tried xjetting it? That's what I plan on using since that's all I have right now to begin saving up for a softwash system
nope have no need to use xjetting we upgraded to full diaphram setup which shoots with our own JROD's up to 60ft now no problem. Our biggest worry is chemicals to run of the roof and may harm or kill plants below or grass.
LSE LLC (Lumanet Solar Energy LLC) that's why you have someone help you below water off plants though
Using the Xjet on a roof would require having a container/ bucket on the roof with you, that could turn into an unsafe situation very fast. Very risky, be safe if you do..... Good Luck!
What kind of ladder are you using? Regular one with a stabilizer? Or a frame. By your angle it looks like a 20’
32' Werner fiberglass ladder. We now added the quick release attachment to it so we no longer lean against gutters.
Great video do you rinse roof after soft wash
Depending on Weather forecast. If rain is forecasted within 24h we rinse to avoid plant/grass damages.
What would you charge for a project like this?
I'm from australia I got terracotta roof to clean where it's full of moss, I got pressure wash the roof but I want moss to get lose from surfaces so cleaning gets easy for me and if I apply this product and going to pressure wash roof what do you recommend time I should wait after applying the product and before pressure washing.
Hello Malik, how big of a green gray moss area do you have? I would recommend you use 8% SH with DAWN soap mixed with water and soak spray it on and leave it on for 1h on the moss areas. Than you spray the full roof with 3% SH water mix as a Softwash. Make sure the chemical reaction starts within 10-15sec of you spray on the chemical. Let is sit for another 45-60 min and than you use Just Jet water so use your high pressure 20liter a min pump and just rinse it all off. High pressure void's the warranty of any roof material and can destroy it meaning you be liable for the damage. Message me via email to store@lumanet.info with photos and I guide you thru the work process. Moss has roots which grow into the tile material and so with the chemical you destroy the organic matter without breaking the tile material ending with a very happy customer and a finished product you can drone document or photos take for your portfolio.
Congratulations for the work and whim!
Doesn't this mixture of chemicals damage the color of the walls of the house? And if the tiles are painted with acrylic paint or some waterproofing, is there a risk of SH staining?
The Chemical can damage the paint on the house, one main reason you have a 2nd person below you ensuring nothing hit's or stay's on anything other than the roof itself. A lot of Companies like to use a flooding method which I fully disagree with. I prefer to spay just the right about to the right areas. Which takes more time but much better results and happier customers because they honor it more when they know you spend a good amount of time cleaning their roof and even had them confirm first that they are pleased with the result before final payment is made. SH staining can happen but that's why you wet those area's. Also if tiles are painted over you see it when you come onsite and work your way onto the roof for inspection before you start the job. I also if we notice there is a glaze on the shingles for example talk first with the house owner to find out if this is produced or afterwards installed. If the Home owner doesn't know lift care fully a single up with a flat iron to get 1" space between 2 rows to confirm it for yourself. Always be open with customers and bring up any concerns you may have. If onsite find out the job is to risky inform your customer about your concerns and if they mind to sign wavers. Lay it out for them in a nice way. But cover your 6 because even a now maybe mad customer will be maybe put a negative review so be it but you don't have a law suite against you.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 Thanks for the detailed and information-rich answer, thank you!
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Dose the soap make the pump sputter with the bubbles
No it doesn't.
Can I have your recipe which material you used for cleaning
.bleach 1 oz of dawn dish soap to 1 gal of bleach
Do you have insurance if so through who I’m in Tampa and just getting started. One man show. Tku for all your help.
We use New Republic Insurance Services, Inc with 1 million coverage and paying less than $100 a month. I hope that helps.
Make sure you the right code# 561790 for pressure washer. Great video!
Great video keep up the good work
Can you tell me exactly what kind of pump I need to get and does chlorine do the same or does it have to be SH
Any Diaphragm pump can run SH without a problem. Just when done you run pure water thru it and you are all good. I run the water thru it anyhow when I rinse of the roof or house siding anyhow :-)
How much one day
? Wat is the name of the chemical you use b4 you pressure wish it were i can get it
You talking about Sodium Hypocrite ? Pool Supply Store is the best way to get it in smaller volume.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 Hate those damn Hypocrites!
What’s is the product uses sodium chloride and what else ?
It's not sodium chloride. It's something else. Sodium chloride is salt.
How much to charge for sq for when doing ceramic tile. Tampa Florida area. Tku
really depends on the house and access too, most single story start at $299 but can go up to like $3000 when like it's a 8000sf house with Boat docks which are 1/4 mile away from the road so that we have to carry it all down there.
LSE LLC (Lumanet Solar Energy LLC) So a roof like this one would you say 1200-1500 is fair for a 4200 sq ft house?
Did you add surfactant?
Is there a quicker application method...
there is but causes you a lot more issues when you use a flooding method because you use to much material
How many gallons did it take to clean
45 gallon mix was all we had to use for the hole roof plus back porch and Pool screen
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 and what was the proportion SH and water?
@@furs067 8 gallon SH 1 surfactant and 35 water
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 and does the Surfactant is necessary to use or you can get away with it?
@@furs067 depends on the shingle. If the shingle has a glaze finish you need it
What surfacfant are you using to get that to foam up a little after application?
I do use SLOWFLO but the foam is because of the higher concentration of SH in my mix which reacts instantly with the black algea on the roof shingle which is open poor so you don't have much run off with my method because I am not like a lot others just flooding the roof with chemicals.
Where do you get 14% off SH from?
Pool Supply :-)
Where can I buy a diaphragm pump like yours thank you great video
You can buy it on Ebay, Amazon, Tractor Supply, RuralKing, Northern Tools just to name a few. Get yourself a 5.5 Gallon one.
Thanks a lot I appreciate it is there anything else you could tell me how to get started on this I can’t find out how much bleach to use for a 2000 square-foot house I know you mix it with the thought of fourth of water and soap but how many bottles of bleach what I need to buy is what I’m trying to find out
@@benderprofessionalservices9018 Check out some of my Video's where I did build my new Softwash Rig. You do need 2 Tanks one for Water and one for Sodium Hypochloride with mixing valve's. Chlorine, Bleach is just a common name for Sodium Hyprochloride. The importance is the percentage you going to use.
so where do the toxic chemicals go?
Most of the chemicals get's neutralized when it is reacting with the algae on the roof. About 90% is been used up by the algae itself the rest is been watered down and destroyed by the UV light from the sun within hours. I hope this answers your question. So when you dilute SH with water it get's also neutralized to a safe drinking level as well. Most City Water's do contain SH just so you know.
Im in business thirty years here in florida and never had a claim against us for a damaged roof. Always only using high pressure
high pressure will destroy the tiles and you do have to walk on the roof which will make your insurance to go up and puts you into a much bigger risk.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 Hi, I'm doing your soft wash cleaning work in Turkey. Washing detergents are not here, I'm trying to mix some detergents myself to create solutions. From my research, you mix water with hypo and add surfactant. Surfactant ? Is it the substance that gives soap and shower gel foam and its density?
Email me to store@lumanet.info but take a look a dish soap's for starters which is only 100% surfactant and water. I bet you find some in your Edeka store.
If you don’t kill the algae it will come back also high pressure does destroy the roofs especially the black tiled roofs
Good job!
Have Two questions what solutions and ratio of water do you use with your SH?
& do you let it set and leave it or do you rinse it off?
We used a 8-10% solution at the end.
And it sit's for a while and than get's rinsed off.
Dawn dish soap degrades the SH
Only if you store it in a mixed status. We run separate tanks so it only gets mixed at point of usage onsite.
How many litres of sodium hypochlorite did you use on this roof roughly?
We ended up with 94 liter at 13% SH. We lost about 26 Liter on the first day because the rain started to down poor on us so the SH was back to been just water.... :-( Also don't forget these roof tiles had no sealer or glace on it so almost 50% are absorb into the single itself and won't run off. So double check what type of roof you are washing. Like brand new glace tiles I use on a same size roof about 35 liter.
brah that flow......
why didn't you guys use a surfactant? Your SH would not have just run off of the roof so quickly.
We use surfactant it only slows your run off down when the material you clean is dry but once it's to wet it will slide off.
What size ladder did you need here?
32 ft ladder for a double story
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 that's what I'm leaning towards buying. How is it does it just make it or is it good and sturdy with some more to spare?
@@homecaresolutions467 Don't BUY NEW !!! Look at Offerup or Letgo you can find for a fraction of the cost a ladder.
I may have just found a steal thanks for the idea. Where are you located?
@@homecaresolutions467 Central Florida is our HQ
Why not use a flat surface cleaner on a carbon fiber pole ? Totally biological and probably a better result .. There are flat surface cleaners that will work on a pole .. . i think you may find it is a very good option
Simple answer : You void manufacture warranty of the roof. And are in for a law suit from the owner and roofing Company. The American Roofing Association states clearly only to use Soft Wash methods with SH to clean roofing in the USA. And 2nd with a flat surface you need walk on the roof no fiber glass pole will work without you having to walk on those roofs. I had roof where we had to walk on it it is posted on our website which is over 8000sf big where a 2000sf pool screen porch didn't gave us any other access. So we walked on it and 15 tiles broke in the process which lucky us we knew it will happen so we had replacement tiles bought upfront and once finished we replaced those all for the Home Owner free of charge. And here in Florida the slip and fall risk is over 80% when you walk on those black algae roofs even with a 3/12 pitch you will come down hard. Which jacks up our insurance so we don't do it.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 Sounds like a lot of burocracy there putting people off starting a small business... it is bad enough where i am .. but sure buddy i get your point... ironically using Hypo here in Germany i think is illegal because of the ground water..
Personally i would think about a roof sprayer on wheels to get the Sh up there.. c3dsolutions.store/products/the-chariot
@@fensterputzernuernbergerlangen Nope it is fully legal also in good old Deutschland because as you may not realize every drinking water is containing it as well. In German you call it Chlor which is also use in every public swimming pool too. As long you rinse off with water it will dilute to the point that is is neutralized.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 A swimming pool is a public domain and so have water systems im place to contain and reclaim ; Chlor used in the toilet gets flushed down the into the water system. But water which has Bleach in it running of gutters , walls etc have in most cases are not directed to the water sytem... You have to Reclaim it thsi water if possible . If Bleach is legal to be used in Germany on roofs and walls etc ( external applications ) i would glad to know this but i am pretty sure it is not allowed Sir because it seeps into the ground water. i am not saying i know this as a fact 100 % but i am pretty confident that it is not allowed .
Wouldn't a 50/50 mix on a pre wetted roof, sprayed in a fan patern have got into all the areas first spray and been quicker? Seen jobs like this done in an hour, a days a very long time, thats like taking a day to spray your lawn
Yes and no. if you pre wet a roof the solution will not stay in place.
2nd you do not walk on those concrete shingles or even clay tile shingles. You will break first the singles and than end up sliding and falling of the roof. On asphalt shingles which have a lower pitch and it's safer to walk on you can apply it by walking on the roof without slipping and falling. The risk of falling on those tiles is way to great and don't forget we are in Florida so our roof pitches are a lot differ from what is been build up north. If there is any little bit on of water on the roof as you try to clean it is is like soak water, extremely slippery and you will destroy customer property and might end up killing yourself.
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Hi, a lot of great information ... How much suffractant are you using?
I use concentrated suffractant. About 0.5 oz per gallon.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 hey, I'm doing the same on very high residences in Europe. What's the surfactant you're using? Can't order it from EU it's a pain! Thank you and keep up brother 🇫🇷😉☀️
It is safe for bushes?
If you have brushes you either pre wet or cover them up with plastic sheeting. On this particular house we had no brushes to cover up since it was all only grass. Importance like I state it is a 2 person job.
LSE LLC (Lumanet Solar Energy LLC) dose this chemical kill lawn???
There is cracked ridgecap @8:51 mush be silicon it and customer might be more pleased
Do you rinse it?
Yes we do rinse it. On that job it was rinsed by rain because when we got done cleaning it it started to down poor on us. So rinsing was not recorded.
I'm in Orlando. How soon can I get you to do my house???!!
Give us a call a 407-680-0882 Option 1 and I can schedule you in asap.
Where can i buy roofsnot. Live in Tampa Tku
we don't use roofsnot :-) SH we buy in bulk with our Pool Supplier network. Leslie Pool.
Good video. Thanks.
so you justdawn dish soap diluted
no but it would work the same. We just use a commercial product called slow flo
Wouldn't it be better to use another tip than 0
Thank you for asking and not if you are shooting onto the roof while having wind. If you can walk on the roof you can use a 40 or 25 degree tip. But for distance you need a 0 degree with pressure in order to shoot up onto the roof.
those roof tiles have a lot of disc break dust..we breath it in daily.
Is there a recipe for the cleaning solution?
Yes use %13 SH and Surfactant with Water. Depending on the strength you need to apply mix in the Water. Most roof will require a 3-5% SH to Water mix. So for every Gallon of SH 13% you use 0.8 Gallon on 10 Gallon of water and you get a very close mixture of around 5% ... hope I didn't screw up on math.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 .....so that equals a 8% mix?
@@jamesmitchell6288 lower more about 5-6% at the end. You don't want it to high and apply more in layers or you might have problems with the underside/material which is under the shingle. Less is more just ensure it's run off is reduced that's why a surfactant is so important.
How about you how many claims have you had to your insurance.
we had zero claims
schoen sauber !
You don't destroy the tiles using pressure
actually you do. Those old Boral tiles breaking apart because of the Florida sun. Now you put pressure to it and they break into pieces. I suggest you better learn your industry and their products before you comment on it.
8 years I've never had an issue.
Lmao you have no clue what your doing!! 12% at that point your wasting sh !! Why would you use the pencil stream haha this is hilarious
Come down to Florida and you will learn why.
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 I own a pressure washing company in Florida cleaned over 1,000 roofs I’ve seen the blackest of black roofs never put 12% lol your a clown
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okay you spoke about how dangerous the stuff is .. so why in heavens would you wanna leave it on your roof ??? the correct way is to put that stuff on and immediately wash it off ... You need a some type of rinse cycle going on you don't leave bleach in your clothes right?? now I want you to make a video of the roof in about 4 years and look at how much its faded .. these soft wash companies in south florida crack me up .. they're leaving you with problems in the future .. I guess if one is just renting the property they won't care but to a home owner they might want to be cautious
ok a few things you can't see but we saw onsite was a thunderstrom was moving in which was a down poor so mother nature did the rinse for us. But the other thing you also should know those roof tiles are not easy to clean up with just water because they are very poors so they absorb like a sponge and don't release even when you wash down with thousand of gallon's. Watch a little closer on the video and you will see when I only apply a thin layer that the tile is fully absorbing the chemical. With the lower pitch roofs down here in Florida things are a lot different from up north. The bigger importance is the run off to be neutralized with water on the ground so it don't destroy plants and grass.
Dee double u for one the method he is using is the proper method that (Arma) the shingle manufacturer recommends to clean there product . You cant just spray 4% mix up there and rinse it right off ,you have to give it time to kill the mold/ mildew or any other organic growth on the roof.Sodium hypochlorite is a sanitizer and cleaner for many things,also it is in our water that we drink ,its part of the cleaning process of the water to kill off any bacteria in the city drinking water.Sodium Hydroxide is also an Oxidizer ,which is why your trying to say 4 years later look at the roofs that these softwash companies do,but what you dont understand is ...so is the sun ,the sun is responsible for 90% oxidation ,so that means if a homeowner has is roof soft washed the correct way,because it has black Algae all over it ,the end product you are seeing is the roof being restored to its original color,which usually has not been seen for many many years.If it was the wrong way to clean a roof ARMA would not endorse it on there shingles.And if it was the wrong way ,i would of been out of business 19 years ago.....dont quit your day job
@@scottruch674 don't forget ARMA focus on asphalt shingles, Roof tile shingles absorb the fluid you stray on differently. 80% of what you spray on is absorbed by the shingles once you did a section of a roof it already worked it's way in under 2 min thru the shingle so once you apply the water it dilute it's strength down till it's no longer a hazard. When you do asphalt shingles you have only the very thin surface to clean so you use less strength and more surfactant .
@@lsellclumanetsolarenergyll5071 yes but Arma has said over and over again through research it dont matter the style roof or material,a soft wash is the way to do a roof period ,and yes the tiles react the same as a wood shingled roof it absorbs quickly but depending on how bad they are ,you have to let them set and do there thing,they can be stubborn sometimes, i put as little of my mix as possible in an area and gauge how long it takes to start working .I also use proportioners on my setups to quickly adjust things ,ive been in this game since 2001 full time for a living, so that guys comments gave me a good laugh .And fyi good video
Ignorant youtube comments make me laugh. Dumbass