Really great what you’re doing. Giving members of the analog community a spotlight and sharing their story. So amazing what your doing with this channel boss!
Would definitely love to see some fresh 50D on Super 16. Read that it should resolve around 2.5K which is really impressive and can be easily upscaled to 4K.
Guys, remember that a complete factory kit of a new K3 camera costs about 200 US dollars in Russia, not including shipping to US. Don’t overpay about for this old camera with modifications 1000+++
My rally codriver sold me his K3 after I saw your video and I've been interested in other lens options outside the 17-70 or whatever it comes with. Thanks for making this!
this was amazing, thank you so much , it's really kind of difficult to find this much info about this particular type of film making, the detail and amount of info is awesome, super well done.
As a film photographer/film enthusiast myself I like to think that in a parallel universe beta vhs laserdisc dvd and digital were never invented and all film super 8mm, 16mm, 35mm etc. is still the only format that everybody shoots on.
Hoping the situation for the Ukrainian people, including Max, will improve soon! I understand him raising the prices to still make a living with devalued money, but they are steep, god daym! Half a year ago they were reasonable all and all, but like every other vintage camera through the roof nowadays! Keep up the vids Brae, appreciate them and you helping out Max with this second vid! Cheers!
Jesus Christ, the russians are essentially committing genocide of the Ukrainian people, and all you guys are worried about are the prices. Also, from what I could tell, this Max guy is russian and still lives there, so way to go supporting the barbarian war. I know Brae mentioned this guy is an important part of the 16mm film community, but there are more important things than that. You know, like human lives, doing what's just and being on the right side of history. This guy pays taxes and supports the economy that sponsor the war, so I'd urge you to get your K3 somewhere else. Part of the reason why there's a war in the first place is this kind of indifference towards the heinous in favor of selfish gains and avarice
@@fromanggio You understand that the actions of a leader or group of leaders of a nation does not reflect the ideals, morals, and ethics of the nation as a whole, correct? There are plenty of Russian citizens who whole-heartedly disagree with everything going on right now, as they should. Now, these citizens suddenly don't deserve to support themselves and their families? Good, honest people suddenly deserve to be isolated and outcasted from society? Max is a normal, hard-working guy, trying to make a living utilizing a unique skillset that he has, and just because he happens to live in a country where the president has decided to make a terrible decision, you think he should reap the consequences?
@@BraeHunziker I understand what you're saying but an important point to realize is that this isn't a single man's war. It's not the leader carrying out all these horrifying crimes, it's the people. While you may argue that the actual soldiers comprise a small percentage of the russian population, you cannot ignore the stance of the russian society at large. Sources vary, but one of the latest surveys done by the only independent pollster in russia shows that nearly 80% of the population support the w*r, an increase from the survey conducted in April. Source: www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/more-than-three-quarters-of-russians-still-support-putins-ukraine-war/ And while I was trying to figure out if Max is russian or not (because you kept it super vague in the video), I saw that some of his buddies served in the army not so long ago, already after the annex of Crimea and w*r in Donbas. I do realize that military service is compulsory there, but what do you think the person is likely to be leaning towards after having been for a year in a highly antiquated institution prone to brainwashing and 'setting people straight'? We can argue all day about the ethics and morality of the world shunning all russians, and there's probably no right answer. I've made up my mind about it, however. This war is as black and white as it gets. If you're part of the state and nation responsible for it, then inaction is complicity. The sad truth is that the percentage of people there actually doing something to make a change is so minuscule that it can be written off as accounting error. Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the people who are putting themselves out there to make things right. But unfortunately, looking at this from a bird's eye view, it's evident that at least this generation of russains is lost. It just is. Bottom line: whether Max is a saint or not, him simply living in russia contributes to the pointless de*ths of countless Ukrainians. Even if he's evading taxes, he still spends money in the country, supporting the economy and ultimately financing the w*r. Do you really wanna be part of that? I understand where you're coming from, I truly do. But it's not the time to deal with greys. Everyone needs to take a firm stance against russia as the aggressor and russians as the people who ultimately let this happen because after all, a leader without a following is just a man. Going back to the poll I shared, after all that's happened, most of russians still think they're in the right. So maybe, just maybe, complete isolation from civil society will finally get some gears turning. P.S. I appreciate your willingness to have a discussion on this matter. Had to censor out all sensitive words so that TH-cam actually keeps my comment up
@@fromanggio I gave up attempting to converse with people over the internet about subjects like this because it leads nowhere. So, this will be the last I say on the matter. I disagree with you. I've talked with Max about the issue, he has expressed how displeased he is with what is happening. He is an honest, hard-working man who has every right to make a living and support himself and his family. Just like I do, just like you do, and just like any decent human should. I do not believe outcasting and shunning innocent people who have no control over a very broad situation is the answer.
Discovered your video whilst I was at Austin Film Festival back in 2021 and it pushed me to finally get my K3 fixed- Such a great resource you've created Brae that I know will inspire countless people to pick up a camera and start shooting this format! Long live analogue film!! :D
I've had expensive ARRIs and AATONs. Honestly, i can't see any differences between the Bolex and the über expensive 16mm cameras. Switar lenses are as good as it ever gets. They cannot be beaten, irrespective of the price. I have, many years ago, had a Krag, but the chatter and weave and gate register was noticeably worse than the Bolex. If you can afford it, buy a Bolex. An early non-reflex H16 with the modest Switar AR lenses will give superlative results, PROVIDED you use a top grade tripod, fresh film and nail the exposure. (The Bolex accessory shoe mounted exposure meter, (CDS type) when calibrated will give perfectly good results - you don't need to spend any more. Again, i stress the vital importance of the tripod. A cheap camera on a top grade tripod generally gives better results than an expensive camera on a POS tripod. Well exposed film (100asa) can be duped onto 35mm or scanned to 4K and most people will be very impressed. If you over expose or over develop the film, the grain will be the size of lumps of coal. TRI-X at 400 really can only be scanned to 1080p - more than that just exaggerates the imperfections.
Greetings! Love the footage and the useful info. You must be local. It's all footage of my home turf. I live in Tacoma and certainly recognize Temple Theater, the water and Mount Rainier view, and what looked like Cannon Beach in Oregon (if perhaps somewhere on the northwest corner of our state). Thanks for the work and have a great holiday season.
This is so cool! Your opening remarks did immediately raise the question of when you’ll buy an ARRI Super 35, but you kind of answered that later. I shot a little 8mm film using my Dad’s Minolta as a junior high school boy, but I didn’t have the film chops you do, and I quickly reverted back to making 35mm stills. Totally agree about the learning experience from real film for serious aspiring film makers, but, damn… Dolby Vision 10-bit HDR on an iPhone… LOL seriously, I love the huge span of different topics covered in your You Tube videos over time. 🙏
Haha an Arri s35 would be the dream one day! Maybe if I win the lottery and have unlimited budget for the film stock lol. Motion picture film is a blast for those special occasions. But yeah, the phones these days are insanely capable!!
I don't know if things have changed with Pro8mm but I used them for one project. Never again. There was less film on the rolls than advertised, the chemistry on the developer seemed off, the scan had a blue cast to it. Everything about them suggested corner-cutting but they certainly weren't passing the savings onto the customer. I've used numerous other processing & scan labs with better results and often times lower price. I did buy film from them one other time but that's because I NEEDED 7212 in Super-8 and that was the only place to get it. I didn't have them scan it though.
Thank you very much for your videos (the division of Kodak sensitivities is very clarifying) (I bought a K-3 many years ago just for the Meteor lens. The "thread" is a Russian bayonet and my experiment with digital cameras and fusing the meteor with the back of a Jupiter 1 didn't go very well... ) I can't find an answer about the camera. If you can not change the position of the lens. What happens with a super 16mm window in the negative? Is only the vignetting from the Meteor lens exposed? I don't have Instagram, but again, thank you very much!
Once you get into the EXR and original Vision era, one stop open per decade does not work as well since the film stock is improved, esp. since 1983/84 and that includes Agfa and Fuji 16mm color. Maybe 1.5 stops open instead, though you have to push and take more control Vision more than Vision2 or Vision3 to get best results. Thanks for the video!
btw Krasnogorsk-3 (K3) full set cost around 50-100$. 10 years ago I bought it for $30 at the current exchange rate.. cheap and affordable camera, but has its drawbacks.
Great video! You mentioned Ektachrome! Try it! It opens a whole new world of 16mm. Iv shot a few rolls threw my Bolex H16 and ran it threw Bell and Howell projector and it’s almost like HD in a analog kinda way, It looks way better then any scan. Side note tho consider with the bolex is they do have a much higher standard of build quality, but you can close down the shutter this making a faster shutter speed and a sharper image
Just shoot with your digital camera and use Davinci Resolve to color grade your videos. There are plugins which will turn your videos into the desired look, 16 mm and 8mm in this case, without any issues.
Question: I'm wanting to use a 16mm camera, say the K3 for some 2D animation. would a +1, +2 etc. macro lens filter work on the native lens to bring down the minimal focus distance to say fill in an area the size of an A4 sheet of paper, or would it just curve the image at the edges or some other crap? Or would a better camera be a bolex with an animation motor, Eumig, revere, beaulieu, Scoopic or whatever?
I just got a K3 and got it converted to super 16 and got lens recentered and has an m42 mount, so I wanted to ask, before I use my first test roll, how should I compose the frames and how much will I still not see in the viewfinder that will print? Do you have any video regarding framing and results for super 16
Hi Brae. Thanks so much for this informative video. I am looking at buying a camera from Max. Would you recommend going w the s16 or u16 k3 M42 mount? Im thinking of sticking w s16 but wanted your opinion. Thank you!
Hi what lens/camera are you using in this time stamp 1:17 - 1:23 and 1:39-1:49. The vintage kind of look. I literally have no idea even I watched the video. Like, how to use it. Sorry I didn’t know what cameras and lenses but I’m very interested in buying since I’ve always loved aesthetic/retro/vintage filters. Please answer, thank you.
Hey Brae this is such a great video, thank you for making it! I'm talking with Max right now for a K3 Ultra 16 with the canon mount. I typically shoot Sony E prime lenses and have a 15mm 1.4 prime that I think would work for this K3. I have an EF to E adapter for it but my question is do you think that'd be a good idea to use that lens with the K3 or do you suggest getting an EF 10mm for this camera. Just trying to save costs and not buy a ton of new lenses for it but use the gear I already have! Any help would be great, thanks man!
hey dude! I think the 15mm would be great actually. should result in about a 42mm equivalent in full frame. I love the wider focal lengths (28-35mm in full frame), but I shoot with my 17-69mm on the k3 all the time and it works for 90% of what I do.
no it comes in a spool and u dont have to load it in the dark. I have another video on my channel titled "how to shoot 16mm film" that explains differences between 16mm and super 8
Awesome video! Yes, a modern lens mount solves the old problem with the K-3: no decent wide angle lenses, other than fisheyes. It's still a challenge, but one can produce pro level looking films with this camera. Roughly USD 3k for the camera and glass is still a very good price compared to the alternatives and you have your light path between the lens and the film 100% clear.
Oh wow, so if you got a k3 with a PL mount technically you could use some expensive glass like the ARRI zeiss ultra 16 lenses? Or zeiss super speeds? The same lenses usually used on higher end 16mm cameras like the ARRIFLEX 416 plus?
Hi Brae, I recently purchased a 16mm Kpachoropck-3 film camera. Unfortunately, the camera has a Russian bayonette mount which makes it impossible to use other lenses. I believe the other lenses all need a M42×1 lens mount to work. Do you know if there are adapter mounts available? Hope my question makes sense. Thanks for your time.
Hi John, I wish I knew more about the Bayonette versions, but I'm not entirely sure which adapters have been made. Might be worth messaging @k3super16 on Instagram and asking Max. Sorry I don't have a better answer.
For the type of work I do, the m42 mount works great! The stock 17-69mm lens is fast and delivers solid results. I have all three versions but still grab the m42 mount 90% of the time.
Have you tried taking the EF mount K3 and buying a cheap like m42 to EF adapter and then using those older m42 lenses? might be good and can open up an even larger range of lens options for the system. Maybe even try the pentax wide angles? pentax made great stuff for m42 mount. edit: nvm i forgot K3 was m42 initially anyways. my bad. maybe just get a c/y to EF adapter and use some zeiss glass instead. might also be good.
After spending time with my Bolex H16 non-reflex I really don't understand the aversion non-reflex. Sure it is an extra step to line up your shot, but it doesn't long to get used too. Plus, every old camera bought used will need to be refurbished no matter what, so spending $3k instead of $500 is baffling.
Super 8 film stock is not cheaper. 8mmx50ft is 4 times less Material than 16mmx100ft (half length half width) but super 8 is about 35€ while 16mm is about 55€ (kodak vision3) so s8 is 25% of film but 63% of the price of 16mm. If you would divide the 16mm price by 4 it would be 13,75 or if you would take 4 times the price of s8 it would be 140€. So super 8 is 2.52 times more expensive than 16mm film stock.
I tried. I got a super 8 but it was so loud and made all these clicky sounds, and then I couldn't find the screen to view my shot. what a rip off. seriously though just hooked up a K3 modded to ultra 16. brings me back to ol bolex days (when they cost 30 bucks used). and I actually did get a super 8 a while back and man that thing is so much fun. if I won the lotto I might be able to develop more than 5 minutes a month :(
not really. people wrap them in a bunch of towels and try to record sync, but its usually gonna need clean up (and unless you’re doing a bolex EBM you won’t get crystal sync anyway). if you need sound you prob need an arri.
The part where you said it would be cheaper shooting digitally for bigger productions...WELLLL....look, aside from audio drifting (which can still be fixed in Post using Fairelight or Pro Tools or even Audacity), shooting 16mm might STILL come out for about the price or even cheaper than, say, investing in like a Panasonic S1H or a Sony A7 IV or something. Let's face it, TH-cam has hundreds of thousands of videos with people talking about the newest and best gear. "If your a professional Videographer, then you definitely need something that shoots 4K 10 Bit Internal RAW and then you need an extra $500 to $1,000 dollar field monitor like the Blackmagic 7 inch Video assist or Atomos Ninja V, that will allow you to record Pro Res RAW or Blackmagic RAW at 422 and up to 6K!" And of course you need a pro camera cage from like Small Rig, a DJI Gimbal, a follow focus, a V-Mount battery, a shoulder rig, a tripod, and of course, a Sigma or Canon 24-70 zoom, fancy primes, or CIne Primes from Meike or Rokonon. At the end of the day, how much is your digital cinema rig costing you? Like $4,000 to $5,000 on the LOW end, and upwards of $10 grand depending on how expensive of a camera body you decided to get because you just HAD to get Full Frame over APS-C or a Canon Body over a Panasonic because it has better autofocus. Whatever the case may be, let's face it, you're not saving that much money going digital anymore, you're just not. $1400 bucks for a 16mm camera, and $130 bucks to develop a roll of 100ft film...let's assume you're shooting a short film and you planned and rehearsed every single scene. Most you MIGHT be spending is $2000 grand on the camera plus film stock. That's less than a Panasonic GH6, Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 6K (and 6K Pro), Canon C200/R5/R7/C70, a RED Komodo, Sony A7III/A7SIII, and a Sigma FP. Just the bodies, mind you, not even tricked out with lenses and everything else I just mentioned. I guess you can RENT a digital camera for cheap, but that's really it. If you plan to own something, it hardly makes sense, unless you hate the film look of 16mm. Which is totally fine, but then also don't try so hard to get "the film look" on you digital ass camera you spent thousands of dollars on. Someone recently asked Quentin Tarantino how he feels about Digital Cameras can emulate the Film look these days like with the ARRI Alexa being the Go-to for so many Hollywood Filmmakers these days. He laughed and said "If you want the film look, just shoot on film!" Honestly, he's not wrong. And depending on what you're doing and how much you're willing to spend on the best Mirrorless or Cinema camera on the market, heck man, shooting film might just be more cost effective at this point.
Thinking about this more, and not to troll because you are doing great work, but call it what it is - a war. Putin calls it the "situation in Ukraine." I get your take with Max, but Brae, dude, it's a bad look. You can disagree, but it's true. For every K-3 video, you should at least offset it by supporting a Kiev 60 vendor in Ukraine. If you think Max is hurting, my Arax repair guys in Ukraine had their city bombed. They moved to another country, and they didn't ask for that. Unfortunately, complacency is compliance. Don't do that - you're too effing talented and smart✌️
Sorry for being that guy but what the hell is the "situation going on in Russia and Ukraine"? What's going on in Russia if I may ask? It's only going on in Ukraine, and the "situation" is properly called an invasion(noun) in English.
The images are really disgusting for 16mm. This Russian shit is capable of doing better, even super 8 is prettier. See what an R16 can do with a Schneider zoom.
Hey man I hope you see this comment, so I purchased a K3 m42 Ultra 16mm camera off of Max through pay pal and DM through Instagram. I’ve been patiently waiting without questioning but maybe not patient enough. Is it normal to wait 3 months before Max is ready to ship ? I’m just starting to worry man that’s all but I don’t want to be rude but it’s coming up to that 3rd month now
Really great what you’re doing. Giving members of the analog community a spotlight and sharing their story. So amazing what your doing with this channel boss!
Happy to do it! Thanks for watching 🙏🏻
Would definitely love to see some fresh 50D on Super 16. Read that it should resolve around 2.5K which is really impressive and can be easily upscaled to 4K.
Guys, remember that a complete factory kit of a new K3 camera costs about 200 US dollars in Russia, not including shipping to US. Don’t overpay about for this old camera with modifications 1000+++
2:50 I already own a K3 with the standard K3 mount. Do you know if Max sells a M42-EF adapter or a DIY kit to change the mount?
I’m not sure. You could message him on instagram and ask though
Big ups to Colorlab. They've been doing my 16 and 35 for years. Great people. Super rad operation.
My rally codriver sold me his K3 after I saw your video and I've been interested in other lens options outside the 17-70 or whatever it comes with. Thanks for making this!
Yeah there’s a bunch of fun focal lengths that open up with these mounts!
this was amazing, thank you so much , it's really kind of difficult to find this much info about this particular type of film making, the detail and amount of info is awesome, super well done.
My pleasure!
As a film photographer/film enthusiast myself I like to think that in a parallel universe beta vhs laserdisc dvd and digital were never invented and all film super 8mm, 16mm, 35mm etc. is still the only format that everybody shoots on.
That universe is not possible, how else do you think innovation or new designs occur?
@@shiven513 Good point
Hoping the situation for the Ukrainian people, including Max, will improve soon! I understand him raising the prices to still make a living with devalued money, but they are steep, god daym! Half a year ago they were reasonable all and all, but like every other vintage camera through the roof nowadays! Keep up the vids Brae, appreciate them and you helping out Max with this second vid! Cheers!
Unfortunate circumstances… definitely would not mind some 2016 film prices.
Jesus Christ, the russians are essentially committing genocide of the Ukrainian people, and all you guys are worried about are the prices.
Also, from what I could tell, this Max guy is russian and still lives there, so way to go supporting the barbarian war. I know Brae mentioned this guy is an important part of the 16mm film community, but there are more important things than that. You know, like human lives, doing what's just and being on the right side of history.
This guy pays taxes and supports the economy that sponsor the war, so I'd urge you to get your K3 somewhere else. Part of the reason why there's a war in the first place is this kind of indifference towards the heinous in favor of selfish gains and avarice
@@fromanggio You understand that the actions of a leader or group of leaders of a nation does not reflect the ideals, morals, and ethics of the nation as a whole, correct? There are plenty of Russian citizens who whole-heartedly disagree with everything going on right now, as they should. Now, these citizens suddenly don't deserve to support themselves and their families? Good, honest people suddenly deserve to be isolated and outcasted from society? Max is a normal, hard-working guy, trying to make a living utilizing a unique skillset that he has, and just because he happens to live in a country where the president has decided to make a terrible decision, you think he should reap the consequences?
@@BraeHunziker I understand what you're saying but an important point to realize is that this isn't a single man's war. It's not the leader carrying out all these horrifying crimes, it's the people.
While you may argue that the actual soldiers comprise a small percentage of the russian population, you cannot ignore the stance of the russian society at large. Sources vary, but one of the latest surveys done by the only independent pollster in russia shows that nearly 80% of the population support the w*r, an increase from the survey conducted in April. Source: www.atlanticcouncil.org/blogs/ukrainealert/more-than-three-quarters-of-russians-still-support-putins-ukraine-war/
And while I was trying to figure out if Max is russian or not (because you kept it super vague in the video), I saw that some of his buddies served in the army not so long ago, already after the annex of Crimea and w*r in Donbas. I do realize that military service is compulsory there, but what do you think the person is likely to be leaning towards after having been for a year in a highly antiquated institution prone to brainwashing and 'setting people straight'?
We can argue all day about the ethics and morality of the world shunning all russians, and there's probably no right answer. I've made up my mind about it, however. This war is as black and white as it gets. If you're part of the state and nation responsible for it, then inaction is complicity.
The sad truth is that the percentage of people there actually doing something to make a change is so minuscule that it can be written off as accounting error. Don't get me wrong, I do appreciate the people who are putting themselves out there to make things right. But unfortunately, looking at this from a bird's eye view, it's evident that at least this generation of russains is lost. It just is.
Bottom line: whether Max is a saint or not, him simply living in russia contributes to the pointless de*ths of countless Ukrainians. Even if he's evading taxes, he still spends money in the country, supporting the economy and ultimately financing the w*r. Do you really wanna be part of that?
I understand where you're coming from, I truly do. But it's not the time to deal with greys. Everyone needs to take a firm stance against russia as the aggressor and russians as the people who ultimately let this happen because after all, a leader without a following is just a man. Going back to the poll I shared, after all that's happened, most of russians still think they're in the right. So maybe, just maybe, complete isolation from civil society will finally get some gears turning.
P.S. I appreciate your willingness to have a discussion on this matter. Had to censor out all sensitive words so that TH-cam actually keeps my comment up
@@fromanggio I gave up attempting to converse with people over the internet about subjects like this because it leads nowhere. So, this will be the last I say on the matter.
I disagree with you. I've talked with Max about the issue, he has expressed how displeased he is with what is happening. He is an honest, hard-working man who has every right to make a living and support himself and his family. Just like I do, just like you do, and just like any decent human should. I do not believe outcasting and shunning innocent people who have no control over a very broad situation is the answer.
Discovered your video whilst I was at Austin Film Festival back in 2021 and it pushed me to finally get my K3 fixed- Such a great resource you've created Brae that I know will inspire countless people to pick up a camera and start shooting this format! Long live analogue film!! :D
Right on!! Thank you for the kind words!
I've had expensive ARRIs and AATONs. Honestly, i can't see any differences between the Bolex and the über expensive 16mm cameras. Switar lenses are as good as it ever gets. They cannot be beaten, irrespective of the price. I have, many years ago, had a Krag, but the chatter and weave and gate register was noticeably worse than the Bolex. If you can afford it, buy a Bolex. An early non-reflex H16 with the modest Switar AR lenses will give superlative results, PROVIDED you use a top grade tripod, fresh film and nail the exposure. (The Bolex accessory shoe mounted exposure meter, (CDS type) when calibrated will give perfectly good results - you don't need to spend any more. Again, i stress the vital importance of the tripod. A cheap camera on a top grade tripod generally gives better results than an expensive camera on a POS tripod. Well exposed film (100asa) can be duped onto 35mm or scanned to 4K and most people will be very impressed. If you over expose or over develop the film, the grain will be the size of lumps of coal. TRI-X at 400 really can only be scanned to 1080p - more than that just exaggerates the imperfections.
These videos are so good and inspiring. Can't wait to get my hands on a 16mm camera! 🎥
An incredibly fun format!
Greetings! Love the footage and the useful info. You must be local. It's all footage of my home turf. I live in Tacoma and certainly recognize Temple Theater, the water and Mount Rainier view, and what looked like Cannon Beach in Oregon (if perhaps somewhere on the northwest corner of our state). Thanks for the work and have a great holiday season.
Haha yep, I live in Tacoma! Hope you had a lovely holiday.
thank you Brae for such a thorough video
Thanks for watching!
This is so cool! Your opening remarks did immediately raise the question of when you’ll buy an ARRI Super 35, but you kind of answered that later. I shot a little 8mm film using my Dad’s Minolta as a junior high school boy, but I didn’t have the film chops you do, and I quickly reverted back to making 35mm stills. Totally agree about the learning experience from real film for serious aspiring film makers, but, damn… Dolby Vision 10-bit HDR on an iPhone… LOL seriously, I love the huge span of different topics covered in your You Tube videos over time. 🙏
Haha an Arri s35 would be the dream one day! Maybe if I win the lottery and have unlimited budget for the film stock lol. Motion picture film is a blast for those special occasions. But yeah, the phones these days are insanely capable!!
Really enjoy the filmmaking aspect of your videos as much as the photography content, so this was really informative, thank you Brae as always!
Thank you! Glad you enjoyed!
I don't know if things have changed with Pro8mm but I used them for one project. Never again. There was less film on the rolls than advertised, the chemistry on the developer seemed off, the scan had a blue cast to it. Everything about them suggested corner-cutting but they certainly weren't passing the savings onto the customer. I've used numerous other processing & scan labs with better results and often times lower price. I did buy film from them one other time but that's because I NEEDED 7212 in Super-8 and that was the only place to get it. I didn't have them scan it though.
Nothing but quality! We appreciate you Brae.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you very much for your videos (the division of Kodak sensitivities is very clarifying)
(I bought a K-3 many years ago just for the Meteor lens. The "thread" is a Russian bayonet and my experiment with digital cameras and fusing the meteor with the back of a Jupiter 1 didn't go very well... )
I can't find an answer about the camera.
If you can not change the position of the lens.
What happens with a super 16mm window in the negative?
Is only the vignetting from the Meteor lens exposed?
I don't have Instagram, but again, thank you very much!
Amazing video. Where’s the cliff at 15:33??? I’d love to get together and shoot 16mm and cliff jump if you have time.
Once you get into the EXR and original Vision era, one stop open per decade does not work as well since the film stock is improved, esp. since 1983/84 and that includes Agfa and Fuji 16mm color. Maybe 1.5 stops open instead, though you have to push and take more control Vision more than Vision2 or Vision3 to get best results. Thanks for the video!
btw Krasnogorsk-3 (K3) full set cost around 50-100$. 10 years ago I bought it for $30 at the current exchange rate.. cheap and affordable camera, but has its drawbacks.
Kodak in Rochester has sold me some film directly, however it depends on who you get as a sales person as to how much shipping costs.
Great video!
You mentioned Ektachrome! Try it! It opens a whole new world of 16mm. Iv shot a few rolls threw my Bolex H16 and ran it threw Bell and Howell projector and it’s almost like HD in a analog kinda way, It looks way better then any scan.
Side note tho consider with the bolex is they do have a much higher standard of build quality, but you can close down the shutter this making a faster shutter speed and a sharper image
I will definitely try it soon. Thanks for the info 🤠
This was like a mini class on 16mm! Great job my guy 👍🏾
Thank you!
is there a cheaper alternative camera to the k3 ? prices have gone up 😭
Just shoot with your digital camera and use Davinci Resolve to color grade your videos. There are plugins which will turn your videos into the desired look, 16 mm and 8mm in this case, without any issues.
Couldn’t you pop the ef lens into a canon camera, set aperture, and then throw it back into the the K3?
Question: I'm wanting to use a 16mm camera, say the K3 for some 2D animation. would a +1, +2 etc. macro lens filter work on the native lens to bring down the minimal focus distance to say fill in an area the size of an A4 sheet of paper, or would it just curve the image at the edges or some other crap? Or would a better camera be a bolex with an animation motor, Eumig, revere, beaulieu, Scoopic or whatever?
I just got a K3 and got it converted to super 16 and got lens recentered and has an m42 mount, so I wanted to ask, before I use my first test roll, how should I compose the frames and how much will I still not see in the viewfinder that will print? Do you have any video regarding framing and results for super 16
Any shipping issues from Russia due to the conflict if an order were to be placed from the US (ordering from Max)?
Not on his end. I don’t think we can ship to Russia right now but max can ship to the U.S.
Hi Brae. Thanks so much for this informative video. I am looking at buying a camera from Max. Would you recommend going w the s16 or u16 k3 M42 mount? Im thinking of sticking w s16 but wanted your opinion. Thank you!
Sorry for the late reply. I always tell people that I recommend the u16 model as you can just crop into s16 aspect ratio if you want to!
Shooting 200t in daylight, I recommend an 85b filter for color correction and then you overexpose 1/3 stop to compensate the filter density.
great tip!
Couldn’t you just use an m42 to L mount? Or would the centering be off??
Hi what lens/camera are you using in this time stamp 1:17 - 1:23 and 1:39-1:49. The vintage kind of look. I literally have no idea even I watched the video. Like, how to use it. Sorry I didn’t know what cameras and lenses but I’m very interested in buying since I’ve always loved aesthetic/retro/vintage filters. Please answer, thank you.
I’ve got some Canon EF CN-E lenses I’d love to see on the EF K3… 🤔
Really nice video again man, thank for share your experience, hope to win that camera :)
Thanks for watching :)
How do you figure out your exposure setting? F-stops and shutter speed… etc. Thanks! 😀
Hey Brae this is such a great video, thank you for making it! I'm talking with Max right now for a K3 Ultra 16 with the canon mount. I typically shoot Sony E prime lenses and have a 15mm 1.4 prime that I think would work for this K3. I have an EF to E adapter for it but my question is do you think that'd be a good idea to use that lens with the K3 or do you suggest getting an EF 10mm for this camera. Just trying to save costs and not buy a ton of new lenses for it but use the gear I already have! Any help would be great, thanks man!
hey dude! I think the 15mm would be great actually. should result in about a 42mm equivalent in full frame. I love the wider focal lengths (28-35mm in full frame), but I shoot with my 17-69mm on the k3 all the time and it works for 90% of what I do.
A year ago. Need one. 😢
When zooming in, are you safe to do just so with the meteor lens without adjusting or re measuring the distance?
Yes, the lens is parfocal.
Which super 8 camera do you recommend??
What about doing the reverse? Sony mirrorless or micro 4/3 and a lens from a 16 mm camera. Get a similar look save yourself a boatload of money.
Hey, quick question. What's the name of the font you use throughout the video?
Glad you back!
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does 16mm camera have film cartridge like 8mm ? or do you have to load it in dark room?
no it comes in a spool and u dont have to load it in the dark. I have another video on my channel titled "how to shoot 16mm film" that explains differences between 16mm and super 8
Awesome video! Yes, a modern lens mount solves the old problem with the K-3: no decent wide angle lenses, other than fisheyes. It's still a challenge, but one can produce pro level looking films with this camera. Roughly USD 3k for the camera and glass is still a very good price compared to the alternatives and you have your light path between the lens and the film 100% clear.
Thank you! Still appreciate your videos as they sold me on the K3 originally! 🤠
@@BraeHunziker thanks. Very happy about that.
Oh wow, so if you got a k3 with a PL mount technically you could use some expensive glass like the ARRI zeiss ultra 16 lenses? Or zeiss super speeds? The same lenses usually used on higher end 16mm cameras like the ARRIFLEX 416 plus?
Correct!
Hi Brae, I recently purchased a 16mm Kpachoropck-3 film camera. Unfortunately, the camera has a Russian bayonette mount which makes it impossible to use other lenses. I believe the other lenses all need a M42×1 lens mount to work. Do you know if there are adapter mounts available? Hope my question makes sense. Thanks for your time.
Hi John, I wish I knew more about the Bayonette versions, but I'm not entirely sure which adapters have been made. Might be worth messaging @k3super16 on Instagram and asking Max. Sorry I don't have a better answer.
Hi Brae, thanks for the video. If you had to do it again, what mount would you get? Stock, EF, or PL? Thanks!
For the type of work I do, the m42 mount works great! The stock 17-69mm lens is fast and delivers solid results. I have all three versions but still grab the m42 mount 90% of the time.
@@BraeHunziker Very helpful, thank you so much!
Excellent man. Thank you so much
No prob
Amazing video as always, Brae! Getting me to feel that 16mm itch again… 😉🥵
Haha a great itch to have 👀
You can use C-mount lenses on K-3 with an M42 to C-mount adapter ring
True!
Excellent video!
Thanks!
How’s the viewfinder? Is it reliable? Or you’d have to shoot in infinity focus at all time?
Very reliable
Have you tried taking the EF mount K3 and buying a cheap like m42 to EF adapter and then using those older m42 lenses? might be good and can open up an even larger range of lens options for the system. Maybe even try the pentax wide angles? pentax made great stuff for m42 mount.
edit: nvm i forgot K3 was m42 initially anyways. my bad. maybe just get a c/y to EF adapter and use some zeiss glass instead. might also be good.
Good tip. Might try that in the future!
After spending time with my Bolex H16 non-reflex I really don't understand the aversion non-reflex. Sure it is an extra step to line up your shot, but it doesn't long to get used too. Plus, every old camera bought used will need to be refurbished no matter what, so spending $3k instead of $500 is baffling.
I want to send my K3 to Max for a Canon EF upgrade! Does anyone know the best ways to go about shipping to Russia right now?
This has been an issue for me as well. Im not sure there’s an option at the moment.
I shoot old lenses on digital cameras and I've always wondered if and how modern lenses would effect shooting on film!
Very fun to play around with different lens options on different mediums!
Super 8 film stock is not cheaper. 8mmx50ft is 4 times less Material than 16mmx100ft (half length half width) but super 8 is about 35€ while 16mm is about 55€ (kodak vision3) so s8 is 25% of film but 63% of the price of 16mm. If you would divide the 16mm price by 4 it would be 13,75 or if you would take 4 times the price of s8 it would be 140€. So super 8 is 2.52 times more expensive than 16mm film stock.
Is there a way to quiet down a K3 for more effective sound recording with a shotgun microphone on a boom? The K3 tends to be loud.
I've heard of somewhat putting a crystal sync motor in one, but I'm not entirely sure
Dope brother, great follow up
Thank you!
I tried. I got a super 8 but it was so loud and made all these clicky sounds, and then I couldn't find the screen to view my shot. what a rip off. seriously though just hooked up a K3 modded to ultra 16. brings me back to ol bolex days (when they cost 30 bucks used). and I actually did get a super 8 a while back and man that thing is so much fun. if I won the lotto I might be able to develop more than 5 minutes a month :(
Hi, I would like to shoot night city lights view from uphill on 16mm for a film. What do you think is the best way to go about it?
Kodak 500t, rate it at iso 2000 and push it two stops probably
Brae! is your Samyang 10 mm t3 an aps-c lense? thanks for the video!
Yep APS-C
@@BraeHunziker thanks!
Have you tried using a micro 4/3 lenses on the camera with a converter/speedbooster?
I have not yet
This was such an informative video! Can you link the video where you color correct 16mm film?
Ah yes, my bad. Knew I forgot to link one.
Making a s16 camera with mft mount and then use the lumix leica 10-25mm 1.7. Would be the perfect combo
Oooo that’d be nice!
Why does your super 16 look like super 8? Are you using crap filmstock or are you filming on a potato?
It’s too loud for audio???? What is the point then? How am I supposed to shoot a film?? I don’t wanna make silent movies. Is the Bolex quiet?
not really. people wrap them in a bunch of towels and try to record sync, but its usually gonna need clean up (and unless you’re doing a bolex EBM you won’t get crystal sync anyway). if you need sound you prob need an arri.
Excellent.- thanks for this.
No prob!
So glad I could experience the beard in person LMAO.
It’s getting more powerful by the day
Hope to see review of Meike's cine lens!
Would like to get one on my bmpcc 6k!
Super usefull. Thanks!
No prob!
I kinda want to make a stop motion movie on 16 mil now that you said that (17:15). that would look cool (but take forever!)
Haha would be a fun and challenging endeavor!
This video finally convinced me to sub.
Welcome!
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Great Video!
Thanks!
1:25 - where this has been shot? Does not look very American to me.
Cannon Beach, Oregon
6:30 You a Washington state boy?
Yep
The part where you said it would be cheaper shooting digitally for bigger productions...WELLLL....look, aside from audio drifting (which can still be fixed in Post using Fairelight or Pro Tools or even Audacity), shooting 16mm might STILL come out for about the price or even cheaper than, say, investing in like a Panasonic S1H or a Sony A7 IV or something. Let's face it, TH-cam has hundreds of thousands of videos with people talking about the newest and best gear. "If your a professional Videographer, then you definitely need something that shoots 4K 10 Bit Internal RAW and then you need an extra $500 to $1,000 dollar field monitor like the Blackmagic 7 inch Video assist or Atomos Ninja V, that will allow you to record Pro Res RAW or Blackmagic RAW at 422 and up to 6K!" And of course you need a pro camera cage from like Small Rig, a DJI Gimbal, a follow focus, a V-Mount battery, a shoulder rig, a tripod, and of course, a Sigma or Canon 24-70 zoom, fancy primes, or CIne Primes from Meike or Rokonon.
At the end of the day, how much is your digital cinema rig costing you? Like $4,000 to $5,000 on the LOW end, and upwards of $10 grand depending on how expensive of a camera body you decided to get because you just HAD to get Full Frame over APS-C or a Canon Body over a Panasonic because it has better autofocus. Whatever the case may be, let's face it, you're not saving that much money going digital anymore, you're just not. $1400 bucks for a 16mm camera, and $130 bucks to develop a roll of 100ft film...let's assume you're shooting a short film and you planned and rehearsed every single scene. Most you MIGHT be spending is $2000 grand on the camera plus film stock. That's less than a Panasonic GH6, Blackmagic Pocket Cinema 6K (and 6K Pro), Canon C200/R5/R7/C70, a RED Komodo, Sony A7III/A7SIII, and a Sigma FP. Just the bodies, mind you, not even tricked out with lenses and everything else I just mentioned.
I guess you can RENT a digital camera for cheap, but that's really it. If you plan to own something, it hardly makes sense, unless you hate the film look of 16mm. Which is totally fine, but then also don't try so hard to get "the film look" on you digital ass camera you spent thousands of dollars on. Someone recently asked Quentin Tarantino how he feels about Digital Cameras can emulate the Film look these days like with the ARRI Alexa being the Go-to for so many Hollywood Filmmakers these days. He laughed and said "If you want the film look, just shoot on film!" Honestly, he's not wrong. And depending on what you're doing and how much you're willing to spend on the best Mirrorless or Cinema camera on the market, heck man, shooting film might just be more cost effective at this point.
Step one get a shit ton of money!! 😝😅
giveaway still going? lol
Thinking about this more, and not to troll because you are doing great work, but call it what it is - a war. Putin calls it the "situation in Ukraine." I get your take with Max, but Brae, dude, it's a bad look. You can disagree, but it's true. For every K-3 video, you should at least offset it by supporting a Kiev 60 vendor in Ukraine. If you think Max is hurting, my Arax repair guys in Ukraine had their city bombed. They moved to another country, and they didn't ask for that. Unfortunately, complacency is compliance. Don't do that - you're too effing talented and smart✌️
No.
Sorry for being that guy but what the hell is the "situation going on in Russia and Ukraine"? What's going on in Russia if I may ask? It's only going on in Ukraine, and the "situation" is properly called an invasion(noun) in English.
The images are really disgusting for 16mm. This Russian shit is capable of doing better, even super 8 is prettier. See what an R16 can do with a Schneider zoom.
lol
Hey man I hope you see this comment, so I purchased a K3 m42 Ultra 16mm camera off of Max through pay pal and DM through Instagram. I’ve been patiently waiting without questioning but maybe not patient enough. Is it normal to wait 3 months before Max is ready to ship ? I’m just starting to worry man that’s all but I don’t want to be rude but it’s coming up to that 3rd month now
Yes most cameras aren’t shipping until 3-4 months after purchasing. If you want to send him another dm seeing what the status is, you can.
great work. Very useful, Thanks. Japanontology@japanontology4832