My film prof taught us to develop film “spaghetti style” ie: loose in a bucket. It’s chaotic, difficult to manage and is obviously never going to look like it came from a lab … but the bubbles and scratches from the film coming into contact with itself can add a lot of texture and character to your image and it’s a way to start processing without needing to purchase a tank!
by far, if you know how to do it, will give the best result, with no bubble, scratches or contact failures, the key is split development. D76 split development
Would you mind elaborating on the proces? That sounds like a good option for me. Just started shooting 16mm on a 100 yr old Bell and Howell 70A. Thanks!
I truly admire your passion for this retro technology. I was really interested in this stuff in high school in the early 1970's but my ambition far exceeded my funds.
Ich freue mich darüber dass sich jemand mit dem analogen Filmen beschäftigt und dass es diese noch gibt. Ich würde gern wieder mehr Super-8-Filme drehen und auf dem Projektor anschauen. Nicht digitalisieren, denn das nimmt dem Thema die Faszination.
Wow -- that is cool. But I really love the section of the video where you are figuring out how to dry the film -- I would enjoy a good 30-minute long video of that -- it would be very relaxing.... 🙂
That’s is absolutely amazing! I’ve been waiting for a new manufacture to make larger scale developing tanks! It was also very cool seeing you briefly talk about 35mm motion picture film. We rarely get to see or hear any sort of info about the film format on TH-cam due to it being sandwiched in between the oh so popular 65mm/IMAX and 16mm film It would be great to see you make a video on 35mm as a motion picture format, maybe even renting out one of the more affordable 35mm Konvas cameras and shooting with either expired or Fomapan 100ft bulk rolls. Delving into the format comprehensively would definitely be a first for TH-cam. Nevertheless on behalf of everyone who watches your vids, thank you so much for inspiring so many people to get out there and start experimenting with film ❤
So comprehensive! Wish I’d seen it a year ago before I started diving into motion picture development and realised how expensive it was… in too deep now!
That was fun to watch. Made me remember the long length either 35mm backs or was it 120 from years ago. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to also knock out 20 rolls or so of camera film at a time. Good and thorough job.
For drying the film you could use paperclips hung over the rack put through the perfs of the film. But you would have the chance of scratching the film when inserting / removing them, and also tearing the film if they are too big.
I can see a product opportunity for loading. A base not just for the spiral but also, built in to it, a mount for the reel to keep it at the correct angle
Nice, the Lomo Tank is still more practical than this expensive one, but cool. And you can just leave the film to dry in the tank spiral, only takes longer time to dry.
Fantastic video, Noah. Thanks for sharing! I'll probably stick to using labs myself for now, but I like the direction home development is going. Cheers!
This Filmomat, and the Dev.A device are on my list to invest in as soon as possible. Labs are great but trying to get 16mm develped only (without paying for scanning/grading) is something for which I’m running into roadblocks. The long gone days when you mailed your film away and received a projectable product in return seem to be gone forever.
@@b6983832, danke, but I am in the USA, so that’s a bit far for me to send my film! I may have found a spot in Colorado 2:46 🤞. Also, I am somewhat close to Dwayne’s (the place that developed the very last roll of Kodachrome 35mm film). That’s where I have my stills processed.
Thanks for the video. I learned a lot from this video. Lomo Tank is good , but loading film in the spiral plate needs lots of skill specially in dark. I Think the Morse G3 tank spool loading is much easier . If there is only issue of keep perfect timing of film movement from one spool to another spool, then it could be easily solved by using small gear motor and Arduino controller. Even Automatic fill and drain is also possible with a complete Arduino programming . I like to know, Is there any other issues like scratching on film, un-even developing , under or over developing of film if I use Morse G3 tank? Your reply will be highly appreciated. Thanks .
Thanks - you sold one Filmomat! Question though - why would the orientation of the perfs and emulsion side of the film in the spirals matter? Wouldn’t it all just see chemistry equally?
So I have been bucket developing for a couple years now with 8/16mm, its expectedly grainy and I have a couple questions, I used to only use Cafenol, now I use a combination of Dektol and Cafenol, for every 100ft of film I use 1 gallon of Dektol and 1 Liter of Cafenol (per 100ft) and I seem to get good results. Would they be better if I sought a different process, or am I doing Dektol wrong (30 grams of power to 1 gallon water, dissolving the powder in the first quart then adding three more) or I should pay more attention to temperatrure? Any insight would be great
Hey, I got a instamatic 77m Kodak super 8 projector and I can't get it open to fix a belt. ( The take-up reels cable might be broken) do you think you could help me?
Hey Noah I know this video is a tad old but i was wondering if you had any of the type 48 color roll film left or rather the material from it? I have been collecting them for use with 100c45 to make a working color roll film format and i need all the positive material i can get for it
Have you tried developing that audio recording film in HC-110 Dil.F ? I've been using this to process some litho film that I shot in my 4x5 and get a fairly wide range of tones out of it.
this is awesome! looking forward to developing 100ft rolls soon as well, do you have any ideas on developing ecn1 emulsions like Kodak 5251 today?I did D76 at 20Celsius successfully but in ecn2 at 25Celsius for 9 minute with 8 min fix it kinda cooked the film, appreciate any advice, thank you
Is there a big diference between developing super 8 film on enc-2 and c-41? I've seen many videos that shows weird image with c-41 and well that's the only process avaliable where i live :(
I have a question unrelated to this video. Does anyone know, where to get regular 8mm Film? Like, is there even anyone who still makes these? Cuz i dont think my kodak brownie will take super 8...
doubleX inconsistencies are a result of too little developer over top of the film. It should sit deeper under water to avoid waves and splashing which causes it.
How were the vibes at a Toronto film coop in the days after Michael Snow’s death? Feels like the kind of person who might leave a hole in that community
WAAAAUOOW , Didn't realize deving 16mm at home was as painfull as having a root canal. And The result as painfull to watch as glaring directly into the sun. Hats off to you sir.
So what they actually did was copy the Lomo tank design, make some improvements and use modern day materials to manufacture. Why would that have to cost €1500 per tank?
Seems like way to much money for what they are giving you with this unit. I'm sure there will be others that come along to improve on this process. Unfortunately it's a very niche process right now and people are asking what people will pay and that is to much. The handles most certainty should be replaced by pivots and a stand, the hose should have for one be secure in it's attachment and a ball valve or similar applied. There is so much not right for 2000.00 + $'s. It needs to be affordable and profitable, this is not. The worst part in making one of these is getting the carrier correct, that just does not cost that much money. As it is this is a 200-300$ product. It's the niche to put it very kindly.
I love how you're just slowly morphing into Stephen King.
Sneaky complimentary comment. Loved the video! Almost makes me wanna try 16mm.
My film prof taught us to develop film “spaghetti style” ie: loose in a bucket. It’s chaotic, difficult to manage and is obviously never going to look like it came from a lab … but the bubbles and scratches from the film coming into contact with itself can add a lot of texture and character to your image and it’s a way to start processing without needing to purchase a tank!
by far, if you know how to do it, will give the best result, with no bubble, scratches or contact failures, the key is split development. D76 split development
Would you mind elaborating on the proces? That sounds like a good option for me. Just started shooting 16mm on a 100 yr old Bell and Howell 70A. Thanks!
I truly admire your passion for this retro technology. I was really interested in this stuff in high school in the early 1970's but my ambition far exceeded my funds.
Ich freue mich darüber dass sich jemand mit dem analogen Filmen beschäftigt und dass es diese noch gibt. Ich würde gern wieder mehr Super-8-Filme drehen und auf dem Projektor anschauen. Nicht digitalisieren, denn das nimmt dem Thema die Faszination.
So exciting. Been waiting for you to ramp up to motion developing for a while now. Great stuff dude.
Wow -- that is cool. But I really love the section of the video where you are figuring out how to dry the film -- I would enjoy a good 30-minute long video of that -- it would be very relaxing.... 🙂
That’s is absolutely amazing! I’ve been waiting for a new manufacture to make larger scale developing tanks!
It was also very cool seeing you briefly talk about 35mm motion picture film. We rarely get to see or hear any sort of info about the film format on TH-cam due to it being sandwiched in between the oh so popular 65mm/IMAX and 16mm film
It would be great to see you make a video on 35mm as a motion picture format, maybe even renting out one of the more affordable 35mm Konvas cameras and shooting with either expired or Fomapan 100ft bulk rolls.
Delving into the format comprehensively would definitely be a first for TH-cam.
Nevertheless on behalf of everyone who watches your vids, thank you so much for inspiring so many people to get out there and start experimenting with film ❤
Beautiful work, love the look of homemade film movies. Thanks for sharing.
So comprehensive! Wish I’d seen it a year ago before I started diving into motion picture development and realised how expensive it was… in too deep now!
That was fun to watch. Made me remember the long length either 35mm backs or was it 120 from years ago. Wouldn't it be nice to be able to also knock out 20 rolls or so of camera film at a time. Good and thorough job.
For drying the film you could use paperclips hung over the rack put through the perfs of the film. But you would have the chance of scratching the film when inserting / removing them, and also tearing the film if they are too big.
Seems like a very clear explanation of what, why and how. Good job !! :)
Awesome vibeo👌
I can see a product opportunity for loading. A base not just for the spiral but also, built in to it, a mount for the reel to keep it at the correct angle
THANK YOU for this valuable info. Much appreciated. Cheers
Great overview video as always Noah. Thanks.
I have just been working on a home made tank, very similar to this using the the GNAL 3D printed reels.
Brilliant!
Nice, the Lomo Tank is still more practical than this expensive one, but cool. And you can just leave the film to dry in the tank spiral, only takes longer time to dry.
Fantastic video, Noah. Thanks for sharing! I'll probably stick to using labs myself for now, but I like the direction home development is going. Cheers!
This Filmomat, and the Dev.A device are on my list to invest in as soon as possible. Labs are great but trying to get 16mm develped only (without paying for scanning/grading) is something for which I’m running into roadblocks. The long gone days when you mailed your film away and received a projectable product in return seem to be gone forever.
Try Andec in Berlin. They will develop your film without scanning. If you want, they can even print from negatives optically.
@@b6983832, danke, but I am in the USA, so that’s a bit far for me to send my film! I may have found a spot in Colorado 2:46 🤞. Also, I am somewhat close to Dwayne’s (the place that developed the very last roll of Kodachrome 35mm film). That’s where I have my stills processed.
This is great, thanks for teaching! Awesome video.
That looks really fun!
Thanks for developing and sharing your work! I hope one day to get a filmomat XD first I'll need a motion picture film camera.
I ALWAYS LOVE YOUR VIDEOS
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There were some projectors used for medical study that could go frame by frame, such as Lafayette analyzer projectors.
14:03 did this man just roast starbucks while developing 16mm?!
Remjet is easily removed using a pre wash of borax mixed in warm water. (Around 50g for 1500ml) Then wash with water until it comes out clear.
Checking back after months. Always good videos. Is your pompadour getting larger?
Hey, can you make a video on how to do sprocket photography? love the channel! Keep it up!
Thanks for the video. I learned a lot from this video. Lomo Tank is good , but loading film in the spiral plate needs lots of skill specially in dark. I Think the Morse G3 tank spool loading is much easier . If there is only issue of keep perfect timing of film movement from one spool to another spool, then it could be easily solved by using small gear motor and Arduino controller. Even Automatic fill and drain is also possible with a complete Arduino programming . I like to know, Is there any other issues like scratching on film, un-even developing , under or over developing of film if I use Morse G3 tank? Your reply will be highly appreciated. Thanks .
I love the intro
Love your videos! =)
Thanks - you sold one Filmomat! Question though - why would the orientation of the perfs and emulsion side of the film in the spirals matter? Wouldn’t it all just see chemistry equally?
So I have been bucket developing for a couple years now with 8/16mm, its expectedly grainy and I have a couple questions, I used to only use Cafenol, now I use a combination of Dektol and Cafenol, for every 100ft of film I use 1 gallon of Dektol and 1 Liter of Cafenol (per 100ft) and I seem to get good results. Would they be better if I sought a different process, or am I doing Dektol wrong (30 grams of power to 1 gallon water, dissolving the powder in the first quart then adding three more) or I should pay more attention to temperatrure? Any insight would be great
Thank you for the great help! As the film has black backing, which step in developing that gets the red of that backing?
Loading the spool looks so satisfying.
Shame you'd never actually get to see it.
Noah holding that FILMOMAT like a proud father of a newborn baby in the thumbnail. 😂
Hey, I got a instamatic 77m Kodak super 8 projector and I can't get it open to fix a belt. ( The take-up reels cable might be broken) do you think you could help me?
Me and my grandpa found out the problem.
I gotta save up for one of these filmomat tanks
is it possible to dry the film on the spiral you developed it on?
Note to self -- get out movie camera when it snows and then I don't have to shovel snow!!!! 🙂
Hey Noah
I know this video is a tad old but i was wondering if you had any of the type 48 color roll film left or rather the material from it?
I have been collecting them for use with 100c45 to make a working color roll film format and i need all the positive material i can get for it
Have you tried developing that audio recording film in HC-110 Dil.F ?
I've been using this to process some litho film that I shot in my 4x5 and get a fairly wide range of tones out of it.
this is awesome! looking forward to developing 100ft rolls soon as well, do you have any ideas on developing ecn1 emulsions like Kodak 5251 today?I did D76 at 20Celsius successfully but in ecn2 at 25Celsius for 9 minute with 8 min fix it kinda cooked the film, appreciate any advice, thank you
Is there a big diference between developing super 8 film on enc-2 and c-41? I've seen many videos that shows weird image with c-41 and well that's the only process avaliable where i live :(
Is it legal to pour these film developing chemicals (that as i know not environmental friendly) to the home sink drain?
Worthy investment. After a while it pays for it self Vrs, lab costs.
I have a question unrelated to this video. Does anyone know, where to get regular 8mm Film? Like, is there even anyone who still makes these? Cuz i dont think my kodak brownie will take super 8...
Checkout the Film Photography Project!
doubleX inconsistencies are a result of too little developer over top of the film. It should sit deeper under water to avoid waves and splashing which causes it.
¿Can you scan 35mm film directly after takin the roll out of the camera? ¿Or do you have to develop it firt?
It always has to be developed first!
So….then how do you get a positive print without a lab?
If that last one didn't hit home, lets talk more about the 5000.00 Kodak Super 8 Camera. 😁
Ha thanks for using our pics I run Cinelab.
Those Allen processors are usually 2000ft on the load or takeup and we run 8-12,000 ft at a time daily.
How were the vibes at a Toronto film coop in the days after Michael Snow’s death? Feels like the kind of person who might leave a hole in that community
I need a faceoff/crossover vid between you and Mat Marrash of Large Format Friday /FPP for tallest Lynchian-style haircut.
why left glove chopped up thooooo
Please can you make a video about your opinion of Soviet cameras and compare with Japanese cameras?
İf Technicolor technologie would reach nowadays, you could shot color images on B&W films.
WAAAAUOOW ,
Didn't realize deving 16mm at home was as painfull as having a root canal. And
The result as painfull to watch as glaring directly into the sun.
Hats off to you sir.
You’re the one :3
harold's cat
So what they actually did was copy the Lomo tank design, make some improvements and use modern day materials to manufacture. Why would that have to cost €1500 per tank?
Inflation
The sheer fucking gall of charging $1600 for something that has that many FDM printed parts in it.
Seems like way to much money for what they are giving you with this unit. I'm sure there will be others that come along to improve on this process. Unfortunately it's a very niche process right now and people are asking what people will pay and that is to much. The handles most certainty should be replaced by pivots and a stand, the hose should have for one be secure in it's attachment and a ball valve or similar applied. There is so much not right for 2000.00 + $'s. It needs to be affordable and profitable, this is not. The worst part in making one of these is getting the carrier correct, that just does not cost that much money. As it is this is a 200-300$ product. It's the niche to put it very kindly.
Your intro music was from UK tv in the 70’s
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Ahh men that water flowing and not being used that entire time, it just makes me really upset, where is the care for mother nature
🤎🖤🧡❤️
This thang is way too much money
uniformity - expectedly so - is sadly very bad...
Operator error
Well for 200€ ill buy it. The price is nonsense, i bought old 16mm tank for 50€..
Your channel is worthless if you're pushing products your target audience can't even afford. Are film schools/universities, etc. your target audience?
how to contact in mail.. or linkenid??